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Bachelor Mansion Takeover Recap: Hit or Miss? + Dating Slang, Red Flags & Real Talk · In My Hometown

0:20
SPEAKER_01: Hi everyone.
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SPEAKER_01: You're in my hometown with Jamie and Pascal.
0:25
SPEAKER_01: And today we've got a great conversation going.
0:27
SPEAKER_01: We are going to talk Bachelor Mansion Takeover finale and really season recap because we've both watched it.
0:34
SPEAKER_01: And then we're also going to talk dating and dating reality check.
0:40
SPEAKER_01: I think we're going to have a little bit of fun.
0:41
SPEAKER_01: I have a qu um some vernacular slang words that are being used today.
0:46
SPEAKER_01: And we're going to test ourselves on it and just talk a little bit about some of those red flags and green flags that we love to debate about.
0:55
SPEAKER_01: Does that sound like a good plan to you?
0:57
SPEAKER_00: That sounds good.
0:58
SPEAKER_01: So it's so warm in Chicago today.
1:00
SPEAKER_00: 75 degrees.
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SPEAKER_01: 75.
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SPEAKER_01: We are all in our warmth.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: Well, you have uh suede and cordorum.
1:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I got a t-shirt.
1:07
SPEAKER_01: Okay, but a t-shirt.
1:08
SPEAKER_01: I and I actually have leather on, but a sleeveless little blouse.
1:12
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:13
SPEAKER_00: So summaries here, summer is here.
1:18
SPEAKER_01: I agree.
1:19
SPEAKER_00: Chicago is absolutely the best city in summer.
1:23
SPEAKER_01: I agree.
1:24
SPEAKER_01: And I love all your photography that you're doing.
1:27
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
1:27
SPEAKER_01: So you're going out and uh are you still in class?
1:30
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, yes.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm in class.
1:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh actually I wake up every more every Sunday morning.
1:35
SPEAKER_00: I wake up about four o'clock in the morning.
1:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:38
SPEAKER_00: I meet with my school, and you know, we have a what we call a city escape.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like people who sign up and we go to different parts of the city and shoot the sunrise, and uh, you know, whatever we could see, angle, we work on composition, we call on the, you know, and then after that we submit our pictures, okay, and we have a panel to criticize our picture and make us better.
1:58
SPEAKER_01: So there should be a reality show about that.
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SPEAKER_00: With the shoe, actually, you know, I mean you see some people who are absolutely talented.
2:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they have an eyes for picture and for uh for composition with mind bagging.
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SPEAKER_00: My teacher, Nick, who is the the head of the school, is the one who leads the class every Sunday morning.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, and I would say he's one of the most uh respectable uh photographers I've I've ever worked with.
2:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well that is so fun, and I I do think that the city of Chicago is one of the most like architecturally, architecturally renowned cities, and it's just so beautiful.
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SPEAKER_01: So I love seeing them, and we post them on the show Instagram, so keep sharing those.
2:36
SPEAKER_01: That sounds like a funny because a fun hobby for you.
2:39
SPEAKER_00: I think I think every every uh people who visit Chicago, every tourist who goes visit Chicago, I will add them, I will uh you know, give an advice.
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SPEAKER_00: Do the architecture tour of Chicago, which is show you really live from the from the the 60s, when they built in the 60s to what they build today and go along the river.
2:57
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it is absolutely magnificent.
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SPEAKER_00: Honestly, I mean, Chicago is it's been nominated best city in the in the country to four or five years in a row.
3:05
SPEAKER_01: No, it's beautiful.
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SPEAKER_01: I've done that tour a lot of times and I love it.
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SPEAKER_01: And they have um they have great tour guides, and so that's great.
3:11
SPEAKER_01: So we recommend if anyone's coming to Chicago for the um summer to do that.
3:16
SPEAKER_01: And just the weather, it's amazing.
3:18
SPEAKER_01: But um, we uh so we spent a lot of the uh some cold and rainy days watching TV, and which is a nice segue to our Bachelor Mansion Takeover uh convo.
3:29
SPEAKER_01: But I think um, you know, you and I we talked, should we watch the show, should we not?
3:35
SPEAKER_01: And then I uh had said, I think it took me a little bit of time to get into, but I actually enjoyed it.
3:41
SPEAKER_01: It was a hot mess, I'm not gonna lie, but I enjoyed the show.
3:44
SPEAKER_01: What about you?
3:45
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, to be quite honest with you, when I watched the first episode and I brought those 12 candidates from previous season, The Bachelor, a little bit of the golden, and the young one, I said, okay, what are they gonna do with that?
3:56
SPEAKER_00: And and uh, you know, I was not I was not into it on the first episode.
4:00
SPEAKER_00: I said, It's not really the kind of show I'm interested to watch.
4:04
SPEAKER_00: And as I get into it, I realize well, it's kind of interesting because it's not about uh it's not about giving a rose and love anymore.
4:11
SPEAKER_00: It's about creativity, it's about uh eyes, what you see, what what who you are as a person, and reflect your design on the best of who you are.
4:20
SPEAKER_00: And I think that that's what led me to keep watching the show a little bit.
4:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think this uh evolution, if you will, it's um of of sort of bachelor franchise and sort of how they were gonna do a crossover.
4:34
SPEAKER_01: I do think that they it didn't land perfect.
4:39
SPEAKER_01: Maybe it'll get better the second season.
4:41
SPEAKER_01: I do think it did well, so they are gonna have probably a second season.
4:44
SPEAKER_00: Do you think they're gonna do the makeover again of the mansion?
4:47
SPEAKER_01: Well, some some sort I my guess is that they're gonna some you know create some second season of it.
4:52
SPEAKER_01: Did did really well.
4:54
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they did fun.
4:55
SPEAKER_00: They did the whole mansion, they did the guest bedroom, they did the.
4:58
SPEAKER_01: But they could keep redoing the rooms like they've been doing.
5:01
SPEAKER_01: I I'm just kidding.
5:02
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know what I think I would like to see.
5:04
SPEAKER_00: I would like to see doing the bathroom.
5:06
SPEAKER_01: Right.
5:06
SPEAKER_01: That was interesting.
5:08
SPEAKER_00: One of the bigger I know I have I didn't spend much time in the laundry room, but I know the laundry room.
5:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we know we know.
5:13
SPEAKER_01: So um, I think so, as you know, for hopefully everyone that's like watched it, it it was essentially a design um reality competition.
5:24
SPEAKER_01: I think it was more reality competition with a little bit of design.
5:28
SPEAKER_01: That's my characterization of it.
5:30
SPEAKER_01: They had a hundred thousand dollar prize for an individual at the end, and they had 12 contestants that start that were fan favorites and favorites over the years that all have some sort of design building real estate background, right?
5:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, some of them did, some of them were general contractors, some of them real estate broker, some of them were designer.
5:53
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, there was a mixture of a little bit of everything.
5:56
SPEAKER_01: And I think I was surprised at what some of the skills were and how some of the people came across early on.
6:02
SPEAKER_01: I think my other criticism is that some of those people were gone early on.
6:06
SPEAKER_01: Like Chris, yes, who was the golden, he was out very early, but yet he had some really good building experience.
6:16
SPEAKER_01: They brought him back.
6:16
SPEAKER_01: Carpentry experience.
6:17
SPEAKER_01: And they brought him back.
6:18
SPEAKER_02: They brought him back.
6:18
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so that gets leads to my second big critique.
6:22
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know if you agree with this, is it was the so inconsistent and the judging and the the rules seemed so all of a sudden they just bring you about.
6:33
SPEAKER_00: It seemed like they they went with the flow and they reinvent themselves as the show was progressing.
6:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh they were trying to figure out the footage.
6:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't think that was a scripted from the beginning to the end.
6:45
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna do this, this, this, and this and this.
6:48
SPEAKER_00: I think uh I think they they uh they reinvent themselves as the goal was as the show was moving around.
6:54
SPEAKER_00: I personally think then uh from what I see, uh they were offer uh um a chart of colors, they were offer a uh a number of tars, they were offered a number so it's not like uh I'm going to the store and I'm gonna look at thousands of tiles, I'm gonna pick up this one.
7:12
SPEAKER_00: I think their their design were limited to what the show wants.
7:17
SPEAKER_01: So do you agree with me?
7:18
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I think that's a really big hot take.
7:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because I I noticed and when they were showing the sample of color, the sample of wood, yes, didn't have that much selection.
7:28
SPEAKER_00: To me, if I'm redoing my kitchen or if I'm redoing my bathroom, or if I'm redoing my bedroom, I'm gonna go to the store and I'm gonna watch hundreds of different colors and I'm gonna test a few of them on the wall to see what I want.
7:39
SPEAKER_00: I just think that I was like the the choice was already there.
7:42
SPEAKER_01: Right.
7:43
SPEAKER_00: And then they were advised to do that choice.
7:45
SPEAKER_01: I think you I do.
7:47
SPEAKER_01: And now that you're saying it, I don't know if I thought about it, but it was, it was very curated.
7:50
SPEAKER_01: So they were given a curated grouping of maybe furniture to choose from and from paint colors.
7:55
SPEAKER_01: They never left the compound, the the mansion, to um to go off and show it.
8:00
SPEAKER_01: To go to Mife.
8:01
SPEAKER_01: Right.
8:01
SPEAKER_01: To WiFi.
8:01
SPEAKER_01: Right.
8:02
SPEAKER_01: To WiFair.
8:03
SPEAKER_00: You know, let's go to.
8:04
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I remember when I designed my son's son's apartment.
8:06
SPEAKER_01: But they were probably looking online.
8:08
SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh, you know, I I'm I'm still the old-fashioned.
8:12
SPEAKER_00: I like to go to the store and sit on the couch and see how it feels before I buy it online.
8:17
SPEAKER_00: So when I went when I went to to to design my son's apartment after he was done with college, we went to the way fair, and then we walk around and spend days to be able to pick people who want to.
8:28
SPEAKER_01: Well, those that's such a big store, too, for sure.
8:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
8:31
SPEAKER_01: For sure.
8:32
SPEAKER_01: No, I agree.
8:33
SPEAKER_01: So curated grouping, um, but even so, they did took a lot of wrong turns with the colors and things that original Santorini room and all of that.
8:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
8:43
SPEAKER_01: So uh so they did bring back some people.
8:45
SPEAKER_01: So that the penultimate episode, the episode before the finale, was um sort of a what they called a redemption episode.
8:52
SPEAKER_01: And they brought back Chris, Tammy, and Courtney.
8:56
SPEAKER_00: And Courtney, yes.
8:57
SPEAKER_01: Courtney, who had just been eliminated the the week before, along with Joan and Alicia.
9:03
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah.
9:04
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and so they brought them back and they sort of they did it in a weird way.
9:08
SPEAKER_01: They just uh Taysha and Tyler went up to uh Courtney as she was on camera, sort of saying her goodbyes, and they said, by the way, we are allowed, we can invite you back.
9:18
SPEAKER_00: You know, the tenant found also a little bit uh little bit uh crazy is Tisha and Taylor.
9:24
SPEAKER_00: What experience do they have in design?
9:26
SPEAKER_00: Who that who are they besides being part of The Bachelor?
9:29
SPEAKER_00: It's not like the well-known designer, like uh Burke, that young guy.
9:34
SPEAKER_00: Um Nate Burke.
9:36
SPEAKER_00: Nate Nate, Nate, Nate, yeah.
9:37
SPEAKER_00: Nate, Nate is a well-known designer who's been on Opera Winfrey many years, who's done.
9:43
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he he's got the experience.
9:45
SPEAKER_00: I think to me, I would have preferred them to bring some respectable designer to be able to and go around than bring in couple bachelor from previous season who be the judge.
9:55
SPEAKER_01: I agree with that.
9:56
SPEAKER_01: So I think the judging, um, the criteria for it, it just seemed inconsistent.
10:00
SPEAKER_01: I think they did get some some good guest judges, but again, judge, I would really use that term loosely.
10:07
SPEAKER_01: They really just gave a couple of critiques and then sort of went off on their way.
10:13
SPEAKER_00: Based on their opinion.
10:14
SPEAKER_00: Based on what their opinion is.
10:15
SPEAKER_00: It's not like it's not based on a on an experience, you know.
10:19
SPEAKER_00: I think to me, those guys got no experience and criticize somebody else's work.
10:23
SPEAKER_00: I would prefer Ned to criticize my work and say this, this.
10:27
SPEAKER_00: I will respect his opinion and his advice than those two guys who and and girls who's got absolutely no no no experience.
10:34
SPEAKER_01: I uh completely agree with that.
10:35
SPEAKER_01: Although although I disagree about um, I mean, I thought Taysha and Tyler did a really nice job.
10:41
SPEAKER_01: They're just they're very um likable and they were fun, but they didn't really give them a lot to do.
10:47
SPEAKER_01: I my guess is maybe they were the original hosts, and then Jesse said he wanted to do it.
10:53
SPEAKER_01: So then they brought like so.
10:55
SPEAKER_01: Then maybe they said, let's all let's all do it.
10:57
SPEAKER_01: It just seemed almost it seemed top movie.
11:00
SPEAKER_01: Too many people.
11:00
SPEAKER_00: There was a lot of people too many people, right?
11:02
SPEAKER_00: And I didn't really You know, they said when there is too many people, too many cook in the kitchen, the food gets burned, and that's what I felt.
11:08
SPEAKER_00: Right.
11:08
SPEAKER_00: Too many people, too many juggles.
11:10
SPEAKER_01: You're never in the kitchen.
11:11
SPEAKER_00: I know that's why I'm not in the kitchen, so the food never get burned.
11:14
SPEAKER_01: Right.
11:15
SPEAKER_01: No, I love that.
11:16
SPEAKER_01: But I think that that I felt that in at parts that they didn't have that much to do.
11:21
SPEAKER_01: There was a lot of social media around it.
11:24
SPEAKER_01: So maybe that's why they had them because they were doing a ton of TikToks and some fun things around the show.
11:29
SPEAKER_01: But in the actual show, they didn't really show up while the contestants were um building something or they weren't really watching.
11:37
SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't know if you've ever watched um that fashion design show called Project Runway.
11:42
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
11:43
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
11:44
SPEAKER_01: That was a great one.
11:45
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
11:46
SPEAKER_00: Because you get the designer who making the clothes with the model, and you see them sewing.
11:50
SPEAKER_00: And those are designers.
11:52
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
11:52
SPEAKER_00: They're not just uh, you know, somebody they pick up out of the street and say, hey, let's design some clothes.
11:58
SPEAKER_00: Right.
11:58
SPEAKER_00: That's what basically they did with the mention makeover.
12:01
SPEAKER_00: They they took some bachelor who's got no experience, said, Hey, let's make a show.
12:05
SPEAKER_00: We need to fill up a couple of weeks, and that's what we did.
12:07
SPEAKER_01: Some, but as we said, some of these people, so then um, who were the finalists?
12:11
SPEAKER_01: So it was Sam and Dean and Noah, and then Tammy, because she won that redemption after the first one.
12:17
SPEAKER_01: The fourth one, yes.
12:18
SPEAKER_01: Um, that they were sort of the final four, and they do all have real experience.
12:23
SPEAKER_01: Noah probably has the most.
12:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Noah's got the most, and the and Tommy is a designer real estate broker.
12:29
SPEAKER_01: And Tammy, right.
12:30
SPEAKER_01: And she has just a beautiful, I think, aesthetic.
12:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
12:33
SPEAKER_01: Like she uh seems and she just seemed yes.
12:37
SPEAKER_00: She spoke well.
12:38
SPEAKER_00: I think she's a good uh uh good representation.
12:41
SPEAKER_01: Dean, he uh I don't know, I I loved watching Dean.
12:45
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's part of the appeal of the show for me, even though my crisis criticism is that there wasn't enough design and I like the design.
12:52
SPEAKER_01: I did like watching these people and I thought they were fun and they sort of knew the assignment.
12:58
SPEAKER_01: You know, when you say like, do they know the assignment?
13:00
SPEAKER_01: I feel like they knew the assignment was to have the drama.
13:05
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I too I didn't know.
13:06
SPEAKER_02: They knew what they were there for.
13:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I didn't see that much drama until Tommy came back with the three guys, and that was a little bit the drama.
13:16
SPEAKER_00: But I didn't see the the the competition, like uh the bachelorette, the bachelor.
13:21
SPEAKER_00: I didn't see that.
13:21
SPEAKER_00: I think it was more friendly because that was not about love, that was about winning a prize.
13:27
SPEAKER_00: They all wanted to win that hundred thousand dollars.
13:29
SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, that's that's that's what it was about, you know.
13:32
SPEAKER_01: And the other issue was, at least in my opinion, the competition.
13:37
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes they were in these teams, but then they they had small, they the some of the things that they did were just so small.
13:45
SPEAKER_01: Like Alicia had to redo a bookcase or something.
13:48
SPEAKER_00: Yes, and compared to you know Noah had to redo a little bit the the live the entire living room with like four different spaces, right?
13:56
SPEAKER_00: And then and then in the end, uh Tommy and Noah had to do the kitchen together, right?
14:01
SPEAKER_00: So uh you know, and and again, yeah, when when I saw the kitchen get redone, I've realized then they already had the kitchen in mind, the project was already done, and uh they make them pick up the nab and stuff like that.
14:12
SPEAKER_00: But I just don't think they had much influence on on the design of the kitchen, of the church of the granite, of the church of the they just put their little touch to make it exciting.
14:22
SPEAKER_01: But uh so who do you think the right person won?
14:25
SPEAKER_01: It was Noah.
14:27
SPEAKER_00: I mean, to be quite honest with you, I mean uh you know, uh yeah.
14:33
SPEAKER_01: Half dozen, we had it.
14:34
SPEAKER_01: What's that saying?
14:35
SPEAKER_01: Half dozen of one and half dozen of another.
14:38
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
14:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I just think that's I think either of either Tammy or Noah.
14:42
SPEAKER_00: I think if I was Noah and I would have won, I would have given half to uh to uh Tommy because she's done a great job, you know.
14:49
SPEAKER_01: I mean no, that's silly.
14:51
SPEAKER_01: He won.
14:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but he did have a heart-wrenching story too, they talked about his mother.
14:54
SPEAKER_00: But they all have a lovely story.
14:56
SPEAKER_00: I mean, so so is so is uh Tommy.
14:58
SPEAKER_00: I mean, she slept on the floor and uh with rats, and you know, I mean there is they all have a both competing stories, but uh and again when you're talking about winning a price of a hundred thousand hours, I don't want to sound pretentious by any means, but what is a hundred what what is a hundred thousand hours today?
15:15
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's not a lot of money.
15:17
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it is for for many people, it is.
15:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yes, I don't know, but I mean, I you know, as you think then a hundred thousand hour get you not get you a nice car.
15:26
SPEAKER_00: You can't even buy a nice car.
15:28
SPEAKER_01: But I think I think they were probably using it to infuse into their businesses or whatever.
15:32
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I think that I don't know if it was necessary um for the hundred thousand dollars.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: No, give me a million, then now you're talking my language, but a hundred thousand.
15:42
SPEAKER_00: They're not gonna give them the give a million or a thousand, hundred thousand dollars is a peanut change.
15:47
SPEAKER_01: All right, well, I'm sure they're gonna leverage it for other things, but so I think um I think Noah One, uh, you know, what would we change?
15:55
SPEAKER_01: You said you would have done the bathrooms and maybe some of the more significant rooms.
15:58
SPEAKER_01: What do you think about the fact that we aren't really gonna get to see it for a while?
16:03
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they showed it.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: Because I mean during the show, they they were they were said we need to get down three days because we got the the the the next show coming up and the I'm surprised they didn't edit that.
16:12
SPEAKER_00: I believe then the show was already film, remember?
16:16
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
16:16
SPEAKER_00: The show was already filmed.
16:17
SPEAKER_00: So the show was filmed in the new mansion.
16:20
SPEAKER_00: Yes, it has to be.
16:22
SPEAKER_01: Yes, oh yeah, it was filmed in the new mansion, and um they could have edited those parts out though if they wanted, because um, I mean they could have.
16:30
SPEAKER_01: I just think that maybe I would have done something where um a special where they take tour you through the whole home or something.
16:38
SPEAKER_01: I felt like it was a little bit anticlimactic because we don't get to see it.
16:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I think I think you know, if I have, you know, I mean I saw some pictures.
16:47
SPEAKER_00: I like I like interior design.
16:49
SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean I at that sometime I really enjoy watching and seeing.
16:52
SPEAKER_00: You know, when I saw Tommy redoing the entrance way and just everything in white, I felt like personally they need pop some color, they need to something.
17:02
SPEAKER_00: It was felt too white, too.
17:04
SPEAKER_01: See, I felt it was elegant.
17:05
SPEAKER_00: It's elegant, but there is they need some the light fixtures she picked up were way too small for the room.
17:11
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I would have put two coupled beautiful pieces of art.
17:14
SPEAKER_00: So when you walk in, you gotta it's just not a white wall.
17:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh when uh the other guy did uh the the room, the the um Mikonos room or the whatever.
17:23
SPEAKER_02: The Santorini room that they changed.
17:25
SPEAKER_02: I think we have a picture of the new Santorini room.
17:27
SPEAKER_00: I would have definitely this is mean the bed, take the bedding, take the white of the bed and blend it with the color of the door.
17:33
SPEAKER_00: Put it a bit warmth to it.
17:35
SPEAKER_00: I just think it's too the beds are too white for the room, you know.
17:38
SPEAKER_00: That's my again, that's my opinion.
17:40
SPEAKER_00: But uh overall, yes, uh, the mention needed a makeover, what they've done is way better than what they started with.
17:48
SPEAKER_00: Is to be realistic.
17:49
SPEAKER_01: I completely agree.
17:51
SPEAKER_01: And uh, and so I think we'll see, it was a popular show, it sounds like he did well, yeah.
17:57
SPEAKER_00: He did very well, I think it was very well received.
18:00
SPEAKER_00: Okay, and uh I I like the ideas of the bit of a like uh treasure hunt when they went and opened the box and mixed the tent to take the locks.
18:08
SPEAKER_00: You know, it was a nice little twist in there, which I which is interesting.
18:11
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah.
18:12
SPEAKER_01: And I I mean a shout out to Joan.
18:14
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we we I enjoyed when Joan was on the show.
18:16
SPEAKER_00: Joan left.
18:17
SPEAKER_01: Sandra wasn't there long enough to enjoy her.
18:20
SPEAKER_00: Sandra is never never there long enough, Sandra.
18:24
SPEAKER_01: Um, but Joan was there until the third to last episode, and uh and I think that uh although they changed they changed a lot of things that she did.
18:33
SPEAKER_00: Yes, they removed the wall and stuff.
18:36
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know how she feels about that.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: We'll have to find out.
18:39
SPEAKER_00: We will we'll have her when one of these.
18:42
SPEAKER_01: All right, so that was the Bachelor Mansion Takeover.
18:44
SPEAKER_01: Um scene.
18:46
SPEAKER_00: Good show.
18:47
SPEAKER_00: Okay, you know, hope uh they keep doing more of those.
18:49
SPEAKER_00: I think it's interesting and and we'll see what the future is there for the for the the franchise.
18:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, the bachelor franchise.
18:56
SPEAKER_01: I know I just read somewhere that this is the longest space between Bachelor um or you know, uh bachelorette or golden bachelor that they've ever had in this in the uh history of the show in 22 plus years, like the longest drought because they're not doing the bachelorette.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right now where they were the the if the if the the if the bachelorette was airing right now, I think they will start casting for the golden bachelor and uh the golden bachelorette because they just did a golden bachelor with male, so now they golden bachelorette.
19:33
SPEAKER_00: I just I don't know, I don't know what's gonna happen with the franchise, to be honest with you.
19:37
SPEAKER_00: I'm curious to see how they're gonna reinvent themselves.
19:40
SPEAKER_00: We've talked with uh um you know Dana and Parit Sad and uh you know over the years you gotta reinvent yourself.
19:47
SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean I've been in business for 40 years.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: I know that every 10 years I gotta do something, repaint the salon, uh redo the station, prod new product and stuff like that to be able to get the clients still interested on the show.
20:00
SPEAKER_00: And I think the show needs a good revamp to be able to come back strong and and take the lead again.
20:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we'll see what they're gonna do.
20:08
SPEAKER_01: So uh you know, are they just really scrapping that entire season?
20:12
SPEAKER_01: And um, but yet some of the guys have been uh doing some interviews.
20:16
SPEAKER_01: The the bachelorette contestants, the the guys have been doing some interviews recently.
20:21
SPEAKER_00: So But they showed they showed uh uh Jimmy, they showed clips who is the winner already.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: Okay, yes, we right they showed the clips so we know who's the winner, and we know then she breaks up with the winner, and then uh uh she went back with Degoda.
20:35
SPEAKER_01: So it's not But a lot of people like to know the ending of something and then you still know the ending of the drama.
20:40
SPEAKER_01: You know I'm yeah we'll we'll see.
20:42
SPEAKER_01: All right, we'll see.
20:43
SPEAKER_01: So let's take a turn over to uh I mean it's not too much of a turn because it is all about dating and finding love.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: And so I think I thought we'd talk, I think, I thought we'd talk a little bit about uh dating and uh, you know, the reality check of dating in today's times, which is, you know, which we've we've had conversations about, uh people being married and now being thrown into this dating scene that is very different from maybe what they've been used to or years before.
21:14
SPEAKER_01: Um you've been dating, uh, and sort of how that with the dating apps and you know, where you're meeting people and just things change all the time.
21:23
SPEAKER_01: So I thought it would be fun if we first talked a little bit about the dating slang.
21:29
SPEAKER_01: So some of these words that are being used today.
21:32
SPEAKER_01: And so I found some.
21:33
SPEAKER_00: And I'm golden.
21:34
SPEAKER_00: So those are well, you're not getting, yeah.
21:36
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm not expecting you're gonna know them, but you your guesses will be will be fun.
21:40
SPEAKER_01: And I didn't, I don't know what they are either.
21:42
SPEAKER_01: And I have like something that I'm gonna use to cover up the answer.
21:46
SPEAKER_01: So the first one is um bread crumbing.
21:49
SPEAKER_01: Do we know what bread crumbing is?
21:52
SPEAKER_00: Bread crumbing, okay.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: So if I have to bread crumbing, is uh I'll take whatever I can't because I can get what I want.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's interesting.
22:01
SPEAKER_00: Breadcoming.
22:02
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
22:04
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
22:05
SPEAKER_01: My guess is going to be that it's something like where you give out little bits of information, but not enough at the same time.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: And what is the answer?
22:13
SPEAKER_01: And what is it?
22:14
SPEAKER_01: Oh, giving just enough attention to keep someone interested but not committing.
22:18
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
22:19
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
22:19
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: I was close.
22:22
SPEAKER_01: I'm so impressed with myself.
22:23
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
22:24
SPEAKER_01: Because I was doing, as my daughter always says, context clues.
22:27
SPEAKER_01: Because breadcrumbs, you're giving a little bit.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: I thought breadcrumb was somebody else left over.
22:31
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
22:32
SPEAKER_01: Right.
22:32
SPEAKER_00: I would say breadcrumb, I'll eat the breadcrumb because I can get whatever.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
22:36
SPEAKER_01: I get it.
22:36
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
22:37
SPEAKER_01: Benching.
22:37
SPEAKER_01: Benching.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: Benching.
22:39
SPEAKER_00: Benching, I will say, is like imposing yourself too much and trying too hard.
22:45
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: That's what I will call benching.
22:47
SPEAKER_01: That you are.
22:48
SPEAKER_01: Wait, what is what did you think it is?
22:49
SPEAKER_00: Benching, I will say, is like uh uh imposing yourself in trusting.
22:53
SPEAKER_00: Imposing impose, impose.
22:55
SPEAKER_01: Imposing, imposing.
22:56
SPEAKER_01: I'm so sorry, imposing.
22:57
SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
22:58
SPEAKER_00: Impose yourself too hard and uh maybe trying too hard and to uh be there that's uh bunching a cita rate.
23:04
SPEAKER_01: Okay, you know I'm gonna say that it's like you've decided to put someone on the back burner or sort of you're holding on that person.
23:12
SPEAKER_00: Okay, go ahead.
23:14
SPEAKER_01: Keeping someone on the side.
23:15
SPEAKER_01: Oh, so you you must have noticed in so you must swear I mean I swear on my life.
23:20
SPEAKER_01: You don't know the sensor.
23:21
SPEAKER_01: No, I swear on my life.
23:23
SPEAKER_01: I'm not trying to show you.
23:24
SPEAKER_00: Okay, because right now you're burning me up.
23:26
SPEAKER_01: I had my daughter print this out, and then I put this piece of paper over it, and then I really did not look at it.
23:31
SPEAKER_01: I put it on the S.
23:32
SPEAKER_01: Okay, go ahead.
23:33
SPEAKER_01: But again, just be like in in baseball, you put someone on the bench, you're sort of putting them, you're holding them.
23:40
SPEAKER_01: So that's what was my guess on.
23:42
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
23:42
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
23:42
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
23:43
SPEAKER_01: Go ahead.
23:43
SPEAKER_01: I'm just giving you what makes it.
23:44
SPEAKER_01: Okay, you have two two zero two zero.
23:46
unknown: Okay.
23:47
SPEAKER_01: Orbiting.
23:49
SPEAKER_00: Orbiting?
23:50
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I will say orbiting is like a looking around to see what's fit best.
23:55
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
23:55
SPEAKER_01: That sounds like a good one.
23:56
SPEAKER_01: Orbiting, yeah.
23:57
SPEAKER_01: Orbiting.
23:58
SPEAKER_01: Right, circling around.
23:59
SPEAKER_00: Circling around and not landing.
24:01
SPEAKER_01: Not landing.
24:02
SPEAKER_01: Okay, let's see.
24:02
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
24:03
SPEAKER_01: They don't text you, but still watch all of your stories.
24:05
SPEAKER_01: So someone's orbiting you.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: That's what I guess that means.
24:09
SPEAKER_00: I will say, I will say stuck in you.
24:11
SPEAKER_01: Right, I know.
24:11
SPEAKER_01: That's what that sort of sort of sounds like.
24:13
SPEAKER_01: But a night, maybe a nicer way.
24:15
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
24:15
SPEAKER_01: Zombieing.
24:17
SPEAKER_01: Zombieing.
24:18
SPEAKER_01: Zombie.
24:19
SPEAKER_00: Zombieing like a zombie?
24:20
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
24:20
SPEAKER_01: Zombie.
24:21
SPEAKER_00: Zombie scared the shit out of me.
24:23
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
24:23
SPEAKER_00: Scaring the shit out of me.
24:25
SPEAKER_00: You zombie me.
24:26
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
24:26
SPEAKER_01: I'll go with that.
24:27
SPEAKER_01: I'll go with that one.
24:28
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
24:29
SPEAKER_01: Someone who ghosted you and then comes back from the dead.
24:32
SPEAKER_00: Shame on her.
24:33
SPEAKER_01: That's interesting, right?
24:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:35
SPEAKER_01: Someone who sort of went away and then um because you know what they said.
24:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh uh, if she left it was a sin to say if she leave if she leaves you and come back, yeah, don't take her back because nobody wants her.
24:49
SPEAKER_00: That's why she's coming back.
24:51
SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, that's interesting.
24:52
SPEAKER_00: You know, if somebody leave you for somebody else and she comes back, why would you want to take it back?
24:57
SPEAKER_01: Right.
24:58
SPEAKER_01: Well, yes, that that could be it.
25:01
SPEAKER_01: Or that they right, they they maybe they were busy.
25:05
SPEAKER_00: Nah, no, not busy.
25:07
SPEAKER_00: If you if you like the person, you'll find the time.
25:09
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
25:10
SPEAKER_01: All right.
25:10
SPEAKER_01: That's a good tab.
25:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:12
SPEAKER_01: All right, soft launch.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: Soft launch is uh um soft launch is um taking your time.
25:23
SPEAKER_00: Taking your time.
25:24
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
25:25
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I know what a soft launch is, not in this vernacular, but again, if you're in marketing, you sort of um introduce something but casually.
25:34
SPEAKER_01: So that's gonna be my guess.
25:36
SPEAKER_01: So what is it?
25:36
SPEAKER_01: It says hinting at a relationship.
25:38
SPEAKER_01: Okay, sort of a sh hinting.
25:40
SPEAKER_01: Soft launch.
25:41
SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay, and then a hard launch.
25:43
SPEAKER_00: It's going all the way, I guess.
25:45
SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
25:46
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
25:47
SPEAKER_01: It's going public with a relationship.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: I'm going in there, I'm fighting for you.
25:50
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: I think just too much situationship.
25:54
SPEAKER_00: Situation ship.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: Uh so I would say to evaluate the situation to see where things are.
26:01
SPEAKER_00: And uh so you if you want to get more involved or uh if you want to walk away, you you you analyze the situation.
26:08
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
26:09
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna go with something more like situational, sort of like it's okay, it's a relationship when we're traveling or when I'm on this vacation.
26:19
SPEAKER_01: It's like something that's just um proximity or situ the situation about it.
26:24
SPEAKER_01: Makes the relationship more oh, more than casual, less than defined.
26:29
SPEAKER_01: So we're neither neither of us are right on that.
26:32
SPEAKER_01: All right, roster dating.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: Roster dating.
26:37
SPEAKER_00: So what mean what roster mean?
26:39
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: Maybe you're on a roster, like on a list of people.
26:43
SPEAKER_01: So maybe it's just dating multiple people.
26:45
SPEAKER_00: So roster dating, okay.
26:47
SPEAKER_00: So uh yeah, I guess dating multi people.
26:50
SPEAKER_01: Okay, dating multiple people at once, right?
26:54
SPEAKER_01: But but you're intentional, you're not sneaky about it.
26:56
SPEAKER_01: Okay, and last one is Dailu is the Solu.
27:02
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what that means.
27:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this is it.
27:04
SPEAKER_01: Dailulu is the Solu.
27:07
SPEAKER_00: How old is your daughter?
27:08
SPEAKER_01: Uh, she's 18.
27:10
SPEAKER_01: No, she just looked these up, she found them.
27:12
SPEAKER_00: Oh, she found them.
27:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
27:13
SPEAKER_00: But that's the language those young people.
27:14
SPEAKER_01: Delulu is, I think, delusional.
27:16
SPEAKER_01: I've heard that.
27:17
SPEAKER_00: Delulu and Lulu?
27:18
SPEAKER_01: But I've never heard of Salululu.
27:20
SPEAKER_01: So it means being a little delusional is the solution.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: So okay.
27:25
SPEAKER_01: All right.
27:25
SPEAKER_01: Well, those are interesting.
27:27
SPEAKER_01: So those are the language like you haven't heard, like, oh, we're in a situation ship, or he's orbiting you, or she's Delulu.
27:34
SPEAKER_01: No.
27:34
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so then I think those that's being used.
27:37
SPEAKER_00: So but those are used by the the young the young generation because we don't we don't talk like that, the old generation.
27:44
SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm I you mean yours?
27:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
27:48
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I say I abbreviate things.
27:50
SPEAKER_01: My daughter laughs at me all the time.
27:51
SPEAKER_01: I'm always abbreviating.
27:52
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
27:52
SPEAKER_00: When my son texts to me, he texts in a language, I don't understand everything.
27:56
SPEAKER_00: His abbreviation, L-O-L, L P E Tweedo.
27:59
SPEAKER_00: Right.
27:59
SPEAKER_00: And I said, Luke, send me the code, I don't understand it.
28:02
SPEAKER_01: Right.
28:02
SPEAKER_01: Um, like what's IDK?
28:05
SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
28:06
SPEAKER_01: I I don't know.
28:07
SPEAKER_01: That's what it is.
28:10
SPEAKER_00: I D.
28:11
SPEAKER_01: IDK is I don't know.
28:13
SPEAKER_00: I oh I don't know.
28:14
SPEAKER_00: All right, all right, I love it.
28:15
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
28:16
SPEAKER_01: All right.
28:16
SPEAKER_01: So I think that was sort of fun.
28:18
SPEAKER_01: We'll have to bring that bring that segment back.
28:21
SPEAKER_01: Um, maybe we'll have find some um slang that's used in our golden and golden going golden era.
28:27
SPEAKER_01: I think.
28:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
28:28
SPEAKER_00: I think we get offended, maybe what we use in the language.
28:31
SPEAKER_01: And we'll see if we know it.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: If we know it, yeah.
28:33
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so now um I thought that we've talked last episode uh with Dina and Parista about some of these red flags.
28:41
SPEAKER_01: I think uh, you know, about being 55 and never married and never have kids could be a red flag, could be a green.
28:48
SPEAKER_01: You were staunchly on the side of it's a red flag.
28:51
SPEAKER_00: So it's paritza.
28:52
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, they were.
28:54
SPEAKER_00: I just think then when you reach, you know, remember one time, as much as you want to build your career as a young age, you want a partner on your side to be able to build and give you the stability for you to be able to spend more time at work.
29:07
SPEAKER_00: When you and and and you can't tell me at 55 the men never dated, never had a long-term relationship.
29:13
SPEAKER_01: I just think then I think no, I think they had that, just wasn't married.
29:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the long-term relationship, but he never really wanted to make the commitment because he thinks then the grass is greener on the other side.
29:24
SPEAKER_00: So I think when you reach an age at 55 years old and you've never been married, to me is a red flag.
29:29
SPEAKER_00: Not only is it a red flag, but you look at a guy at 55 years old.
29:34
SPEAKER_00: What most likely the age group is gonna be dating?
29:37
SPEAKER_00: 40, 45, and most of 40, 45, you know, most likely are married.
29:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:45
SPEAKER_00: Children.
29:46
SPEAKER_00: Right.
29:46
SPEAKER_00: So now you you're encountering a 55 years old who's silly, but who's singles and set in his own ways and meeting a woman who's 45 with two kids.
29:56
SPEAKER_01: He's probably even looking for, I mean, as we heard with Dina, younger because he wants now to have kids and he's ready to settle down.
30:03
SPEAKER_01: He's already done the whole career climb, and uh, and so he's probably looking for someone in her 30s.
30:10
SPEAKER_00: So if he's looking for someone in his 30s, 55, there is 25 years difference.
30:14
SPEAKER_01: I know.
30:14
SPEAKER_01: So it's crazy.
30:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then and then that's why she said she wasn't into it.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: No, and then and then you got then you get to to make a solid relationship, it takes you about a couple years.
30:24
SPEAKER_00: So 57, then it takes a year to nurse, 58, and by the time they get the kid, the guy is by the meme to college, he's gonna be in a retirement room.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
30:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a crazy.
30:37
SPEAKER_00: I just think then the age difference is a uh when when you're young, it's not that much.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: As you get older, he it emphasizes it.
30:45
SPEAKER_00: You see the difference.
30:46
SPEAKER_00: You slow, you know, as you get older, you slow down, and the woman's got the energy.
30:51
SPEAKER_00: I think age uh age is a challenge these days, definitely.
30:56
SPEAKER_01: I agree, I agree.
30:57
SPEAKER_01: And we talked a little bit about that um age of attraction show, and is it really real or is it made up?
31:05
SPEAKER_01: Because people do you can ascertain from someone after having a substantive conversation, uh, not generally how old they are, not maybe the exact age, and maybe looks if you're just looking at a picture of someone, you could probably Yeah.
31:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you look at two uh a 65 and a 45, and you take a picture of them, they look good together, but there is two decades of of difference.
31:29
SPEAKER_01: But you're gonna know it.
31:30
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
31:31
SPEAKER_01: My friend who listened to the episode last week where you were talking about the men dating younger, but you didn't think the women were dating younger.
31:38
SPEAKER_01: She gets asked out, she said, all the time by younger men, and she's 54.
31:43
SPEAKER_00: 54 is not that old.
31:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I I I would agree.
31:46
SPEAKER_01: I think it's actually quite young.
31:47
SPEAKER_00: No, 54 is not that old.
31:49
SPEAKER_00: She's good at okay.
31:50
SPEAKER_00: How young is the men who asked in their 30s, she said.
31:54
SPEAKER_00: Oh, so she's must be a fox.
31:56
SPEAKER_00: She is, yeah.
31:57
SPEAKER_00: That's why.
31:57
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
31:58
SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, I mean, look, look, when you look at uh Debbie Moore and uh Aston Kutcher, they did it.
32:04
SPEAKER_00: There was like 20, 30 years difference in the age.
32:07
SPEAKER_00: Debbie Moore was in a prime, she was beautiful, and he was a young kid.
32:10
SPEAKER_01: And as they grow, boom, he said, Hey, look, you know, I mean, I think it was really because she couldn't have a baby.
32:16
SPEAKER_01: I think that they You think so?
32:18
SPEAKER_01: I think if I read her book, and she said that she'd gotten pregnant and then she had a miscarriage or something, and I think that maybe that she has a deal with uh what is his name?
32:27
SPEAKER_00: Um that actor.
32:28
SPEAKER_01: Uh well, she has three children with Bruce Willis.
32:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so she could have kids.
32:33
SPEAKER_01: But this was later.
32:34
SPEAKER_01: This is later.
32:35
SPEAKER_01: She was already in her 40s when she was dating him.
32:38
SPEAKER_01: And I think she was having trouble conceiving.
32:40
SPEAKER_01: It sounds like I don't know.
32:41
SPEAKER_01: I don't know the too many of the details, but I read the memoir.
32:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:44
SPEAKER_01: And that I could have.
32:48
SPEAKER_00: You know, memoir is different.
32:50
SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, you're saying yourself that he left her because she got too old.
32:53
SPEAKER_00: I think he left her because, yeah, the age different.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: Right.
32:56
SPEAKER_01: And I guess what I'm saying is that I think that that have factored into it.
33:00
SPEAKER_01: It sounds like that he wanted to have a baby.
33:03
SPEAKER_01: She wanted to have a baby for him and with him, but wasn't able to do it.
33:07
SPEAKER_01: And then they their their relationship sort of crumbled from that.
33:10
SPEAKER_00: Does he have a baby right now?
33:12
SPEAKER_00: He does.
33:12
SPEAKER_01: He's with Mila Kunis and they have several kids, too, at least.
33:16
SPEAKER_01: So anyway, um, what what else did I hear from our last episode?
33:20
SPEAKER_01: Uh, we we had a couple questions about what are the best dating apps for people over 50.
33:26
SPEAKER_01: And I know you hate the dating apps, so it's not really a question for you.
33:29
SPEAKER_00: You know what, to be quite honest with you, I mean, and again, uh, since since the last conversation we had with that uh deadly ab expert, you know, I mean, uh uh, after that, I went on a lot of app to see what is there, just by curiosity, not to get on.
33:44
SPEAKER_01: You want to do some due diligence.
33:45
SPEAKER_00: Exactly, do some due diligence.
33:46
SPEAKER_00: And I realized that for you to be able to connect with anyone, you have to pay.
33:51
SPEAKER_00: It's not like a free app, it's not like you go and brass the woman and then you pick up this one, a communication.
33:57
SPEAKER_00: So every time you want to communicate, there is a membership, so there is fee into it.
34:02
SPEAKER_00: So the daily the dealing hub is a business, it's a very profitable business, as you know.
34:07
SPEAKER_00: Bumble and Bumblebee went public.
34:11
SPEAKER_00: Okay, uh, match.com is a public company.
34:15
SPEAKER_00: So uh they didn't do that by giving free uh uh uh uh dead in.
34:19
SPEAKER_00: Right.
34:20
SPEAKER_00: You know, so I don't I don't believe much on the deadly app because of the fact that you fake your age, you fake your picture.
34:29
SPEAKER_00: Uh uh it's not really who you are.
34:31
SPEAKER_00: I think to me, mixers are the best.
34:33
SPEAKER_00: Put in like an event where you have a group age coming up and then you go in there, like uh we had uh Megan who was uh throwing uh those uh back to back to um yeah, back to basics.
34:45
SPEAKER_00: No, back no no back to back to time, back to time.
34:48
SPEAKER_01: No, back old school, maybe.
34:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, something like that.
34:50
SPEAKER_01: I forgot what it was called.
34:52
SPEAKER_00: Well you put a mixer and you put people together, that's the best way, particularly when you reach our age.
34:57
SPEAKER_00: The young kid, remember when they're 20, 22, 23 years old.
35:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, they go out, they go to nightclub, they go to bars, they go to music company.
35:05
SPEAKER_01: They do, but I think even Parisa said she met her boyfriend on a dating app.
35:10
SPEAKER_01: So I do think that uh no matter what generation is, uh they're the dating apps are playing a big role in it.
35:16
SPEAKER_01: I just don't think that people are like I'm I met a boyfriend years and years ago on the L train in Chicago.
35:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
35:23
SPEAKER_01: He thought he got off at my stop and sort of followed me.
35:26
SPEAKER_01: Like if he was on his in today's times, if he was on his phone, he would never have to do it.
35:31
SPEAKER_01: Never look at you.
35:32
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
35:33
SPEAKER_01: And I think that's what's happening today.
35:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's what it is.
35:36
SPEAKER_00: So people hiding behind the phone.
35:37
SPEAKER_00: Remember one thing, Jimmy.
35:39
SPEAKER_00: It's much easier to go on a dating hub and say, Hey Jamie, how are you?
35:44
SPEAKER_00: If you don't respond, I don't care.
35:46
SPEAKER_00: I go to a hey Mary, how are you?
35:49
SPEAKER_00: Right.
35:49
SPEAKER_00: Hey, John, how are you?
35:51
SPEAKER_00: Right.
35:51
SPEAKER_00: But if I come up to you and I say, Hey, Jamie, how are you?
35:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you reject me, all of a sudden I'll beat my insecurity.
35:58
SPEAKER_00: So it's very hard for people to go and talk to somebody.
36:02
SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, I've been with friends of mine who are sitting at the table and they look at us, look at this one, look at this.
36:08
SPEAKER_00: Why don't you go talk to her?
36:09
SPEAKER_00: Oh no, no, no, I'm not gonna talk to her.
36:11
SPEAKER_00: If you don't talk to her, how are you gonna meet her?
36:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
36:13
SPEAKER_01: I've seen people where you see someone in person and then they look them up on their Instagram or something, and then they have to connect them there.
36:24
SPEAKER_01: Yes, they do have to get their name.
36:25
SPEAKER_01: I guess so.
36:27
SPEAKER_00: So I go so I go into a bar, I see a girl, I like to say, Hey, how are you?
36:30
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Jamie, okay, great.
36:31
SPEAKER_00: What is your last name?
36:32
SPEAKER_00: Jimmy Stein?
36:33
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm gonna go back.
36:37
SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
36:37
SPEAKER_00: She's cooler, like, hi Jamie.
36:39
SPEAKER_01: But don't you think that happens to a degree?
36:41
SPEAKER_01: I mean, even if you get someone's name, you're going back and checking out their socials.
36:44
SPEAKER_00: You really I think yes, you're when you meet somebody when if I if you know, if I was gonna meet somebody and uh I met you somewhere and you give me a name, well, the first thing I will do, I would go into social media to see who you are.
36:57
SPEAKER_00: Right.
36:57
SPEAKER_00: To see what you like, who's your friend, where do you live, uh, how you dress.
37:01
SPEAKER_01: Uh is it a red flag for you to if a person posts too much that they're dating?
37:08
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, yeah.
37:09
SPEAKER_00: Mean mean people are posting.
37:10
SPEAKER_00: You know, I I hate, you know, it's sad to see, but those girls half naked in bedding suits, shorting their big titties and masks.
37:18
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
37:18
SPEAKER_00: It's like it's like it's like, come on, you know, why why do you do that?
37:22
SPEAKER_01: Well, it's called a thirst trap, I believe.
37:24
SPEAKER_00: No, it's a it's it's it's insecurity.
37:27
SPEAKER_00: Look at how hot I am, shout me out.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: Yes, you know, I think to me, I would prefer having a woman who's well dressed, uh having dinner with a friend and taking a nice picture than a girl who's in a boat with a G strand.
37:38
SPEAKER_01: I I seem to recall that you had your shirt off in a picture on your vacation.
37:43
SPEAKER_00: So are you saying I was in a I was in a beach and vacation with my kids.
37:48
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so the context was important.
37:50
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
37:51
SPEAKER_00: But I wouldn't be, I wouldn't, I think that's most likely women again who are tendency to show the women with yeah, but but I'm a man, so I see the woman, the woman point of view.
38:03
SPEAKER_00: You're a woman, you might see the men's point of view.
38:05
SPEAKER_00: Do you see a man coming up with just G-strand and showing their muscle and stuff like that?
38:10
SPEAKER_00: Most women, they always women don't want to see that.
38:12
SPEAKER_00: No, and but men like to see half-naked women.
38:16
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
38:17
SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean uh we will So give the people what they want.
38:20
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
38:21
SPEAKER_00: We go to a car show, and then uh you see uh you we go to a boat show and we see those gorgeous girls standing in front of a boat.
38:29
SPEAKER_01: Do they still do that at the boat shows in the car show?
38:31
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, go show, gas show.
38:32
SPEAKER_00: You don't see a guy standing in front of a boat and saying, Come on, well, that's why Playgirl, the magazine folded.
38:38
SPEAKER_00: You want anytime you want to sell, every time you want to sell, you put a woman.
38:44
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I would agree the female.
38:46
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
38:46
SPEAKER_00: Every time you want to sell.
38:47
SPEAKER_01: So I guess, but you're making your point.
38:50
SPEAKER_01: You're making the the my point, which is that that's what they that's why they're putting these photos out on Instagram or on social, because they know that the guys are interested in that.
39:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but you'd rather it be a little bit more.
39:03
SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't go, I wouldn't go with a girl who's wearing a G-strand in a bathing suit of uh Okay.
39:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh that's not that's not what I'm interested about.
39:11
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
39:11
SPEAKER_00: You know, I think she has to have a little bit more class than that.
39:14
SPEAKER_00: Unless she's in an environment with a bunch of girls in a beach on a bathing suit.
39:17
SPEAKER_00: That's a different, but a girl shouldering the angle, and you got those girls who are come up.
39:22
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you you got us the social media is absolutely ridiculous about and most likely, and I don't want to be a chauvinistic man, most likely is women who are trying to show their figure, shoulder brush, shoulder ash, show this, shoulder.
39:36
SPEAKER_00: It's all about that on the social media.
39:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I will say that uh my algorithm is probably different than yours.
39:44
SPEAKER_01: I I do definitely see a lot of guys doing that.
39:47
SPEAKER_01: I mean, certainly in the Bachelor Nation universe as well.
39:50
SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of um that those types of posing and stuff.
39:54
SPEAKER_01: It goes both ways.
39:55
SPEAKER_01: Everything goes both ways.
39:57
SPEAKER_01: You think it's very much a one way, but and that the that's your point of view, and it should be because you're a male and that mine.
40:04
SPEAKER_01: And what I would say is I can see, I can still see things, even if I'm coming at it as a female.
40:11
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm not perfect and I'm I like to things to be pointed out, and you have good perspective, but I think that it's both ways.
40:18
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you see it in you, I see it in my way, the way I see it and the way it shows on social media, it's it's all about titani.
40:28
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
40:29
SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean the every 10 mean a hundred.
40:32
SPEAKER_01: I see a lot of abs of men's abs, so which I don't mind, but but I'm just saying.
40:36
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so let's um what uh what else?
40:38
SPEAKER_01: Uh do you if you're someone who you're dating still talks to her ex, is that a red flag?
40:44
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
40:44
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
40:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's no need to talk to the ex.
40:47
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
40:47
SPEAKER_01: What if it's the father of your child?
40:49
SPEAKER_00: That's a different okay, okay.
40:51
SPEAKER_00: That's a different game.
40:51
SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you're married and you're not a big thing.
40:53
SPEAKER_00: Co-parenting, then.
40:54
SPEAKER_00: Co-parenting's got nothing to do with that.
40:55
SPEAKER_00: But meaning if you break up and you're single and you speak in touch with your ex-girlfriend, yeah.
41:00
SPEAKER_00: No, I think it's it's a red flag.
41:02
SPEAKER_01: Okay, all right.
41:03
SPEAKER_01: What about um the long distance we've talked a lot about if you're just not into it?
41:08
SPEAKER_01: Although you were willing to give it a shot.
41:10
SPEAKER_00: I did I did give it a shot.
41:12
SPEAKER_00: I did give it a shot, and I realized then you know what, I just don't, this is not for me.
41:16
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it worked for some people, but it's not for me.
41:18
SPEAKER_01: Right.
41:18
SPEAKER_01: No, I get it.
41:20
SPEAKER_00: You know, I think the long distance, and we talked a little bit about with Chuck when he was here the last time.
41:25
SPEAKER_00: He said he worked because he's got his time where he spent time at work and stuff like that.
41:29
SPEAKER_00: It's like I've always said, marry the stewardess is the greatest marriage because she's gone three days a week.
41:35
SPEAKER_00: You know she's your partner, but you got three days for yourself.
41:38
SPEAKER_00: You know, sometimes you need your space.
41:40
SPEAKER_00: And I think uh, you know, the long distance give you that space, but there is too much space in between.
41:46
SPEAKER_00: I like to see my partner more often than once every two weeks or once.
41:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think that you could end up living a bit sort of one foot here and one foot there.
41:57
SPEAKER_01: Again, it depends on where you are in your life.
42:00
SPEAKER_01: I hate I hate to make sort of a broad statement that it doesn't work or that it wouldn't work.
42:04
SPEAKER_01: I think it really depends on the person and it depends on where you are in your life.
42:08
SPEAKER_01: I've been talking to a couple of my friends that are moms who have kids that have graduating college and they're separating cities from their um boyfriend or girlfriend from their kids.
42:19
SPEAKER_01: And they're gonna try the long distance thing and I as they sort of start out in their life.
42:24
SPEAKER_01: And I feel like, you know, you wanna go full in to the new city you're in and to your job and to making friends.
42:32
SPEAKER_01: And if you have someone who's living somewhere else and then you're seeing them on every other weekend or something, I don't know.
42:38
SPEAKER_01: It feels a little bit like divided.
42:40
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
42:41
SPEAKER_00: Disconnected.
42:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I think again.
42:43
SPEAKER_01: Because you have a son too who's in that age here.
42:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
42:45
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think disconnected.
42:47
SPEAKER_00: Uh to me, uh, I will prefer that person who I'm dating who live in the city where I am, and then spend time with her and being available to do the fun thing.
42:56
SPEAKER_00: I like to do theater, dinners, uh, play, concert, uh, uh, and and do it with somebody and build memory.
43:03
SPEAKER_00: But if she lives in in New York or in LA and I'm here in Chicago, uh, number one, you gotta be secure financially to be able to fly her or her secure financially to fly her.
43:14
SPEAKER_00: It's a long time, it's a day travel.
43:16
SPEAKER_00: She comes up, tired, that's not a home, that's not comfortable.
43:20
SPEAKER_00: It's like camping.
43:22
SPEAKER_00: You know, I just think then the long distance in my age, it's not working.
43:27
SPEAKER_01: But what about dating multiple people at once?
43:31
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I I would say one thing dating multiple multiple at once when you start dating and looking for a partner.
43:39
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I have dated multiple women at once until I find the one I focus on.
43:46
SPEAKER_00: But I'm respectful enough to when I find the right person to say to the one, I just want you to know that I've been see this woman, I decided to go seriously.
43:55
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, just I want I think it will be inappropriate for us to see.
43:59
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
44:00
SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's it.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: But I give her the respect to if I go on one day, two dates with you, and I go on one date and two dates with her and one date and two dates with her, and then I like this one and I go on four or five dates, I owe you at least the explanation.
44:14
SPEAKER_00: But most people don't do that.
44:15
SPEAKER_00: They just ghost you completely.
44:17
SPEAKER_01: Yes, right.
44:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:19
SPEAKER_01: And I think uh we had we have talked about that before, this idea that you may start to become um serious too soon, and that maybe it's okay to you know have a couple of things.
44:30
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
44:30
SPEAKER_00: I think it is it is important for someone, even my daughter who is young, who's got a boyfriend for the last three years.
44:38
SPEAKER_00: I said, you know, you're in college in here, he lives in California.
44:42
SPEAKER_00: I said, you know, you should meet people, see what you like, what you don't like.
44:45
SPEAKER_00: And said, Dad, I like my boyfriend.
44:48
SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's okay that some people are like that.
44:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but to me, I would prefer my son to go and start meeting people, have experience, and see what he likes and doesn't like.
44:57
SPEAKER_01: Same.
44:58
SPEAKER_01: I am for that, especially when kids are starting our age.
45:02
SPEAKER_00: You know, we go out with a lot of different women until we find the one.
45:06
SPEAKER_00: I think the the main thing is to find the one who accepts you for who you are and being who you are without trying to be some to pretend to be something else.
45:15
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
45:16
SPEAKER_00: Some people go into a relationship when we talk with Paritsa and and and and and and Dina, then uh sometimes we because we want to conquer all of a sudden, we change our value, we change our core just because we want to please her.
45:29
SPEAKER_00: And then when we conquer and then we partner, all of a sudden you become who you are.
45:33
SPEAKER_00: No, I don't like football, but you used to love football, used to watch.
45:36
SPEAKER_00: No, I hate football.
45:38
SPEAKER_00: You know, so I think to me, it takes time to get to know somebody.
45:42
SPEAKER_00: Don't rush and live in with that person right away.
45:45
SPEAKER_00: Spend time with her, be authentic about who you are, and if if it's meant to be, it'll be.
45:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:51
SPEAKER_01: I think those are great words to live by and advice.
45:54
SPEAKER_01: I know words to Pascal's words of wisdom.
45:57
SPEAKER_01: I think we'll maybe leave it at that today.
45:59
SPEAKER_01: It was a good uh conversation.
46:01
SPEAKER_01: And we I want to thank Shelby, who's our engineer today for the first time on our own.
46:06
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46:07
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46:08
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46:33
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