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Should Detroit Tigers Pursue Pete Alonso or Jurickson Profar? · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
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  Speaker 1: the Ball Territory Network, a Troy Tiger's podcast. I'm Kieren
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  Speaker 1: Seckley with me as always as a man who knows
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  Speaker 1: how to make his mark in the market. He is
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  Speaker 1: Cody Savin Eggan.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing doing good, Karen.
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  Speaker 3: I'm kind of glad I don't have to worry about
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  Speaker 3: markets for a living, or I guess I do. I
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  Speaker 3: just follow him that actually play them, you know, because
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  Speaker 3: the baseball market, I've said it before, it's really not
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  Speaker 3: very fun, right.
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  Speaker 2: We have no signing deadline, we have things that just
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  Speaker 2: drag on.
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  Speaker 3: We will return just briefly to the latest episode of
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  Speaker 3: How Alex Bregman's World turns, and in the past few
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  Speaker 3: days we really have learned nothing other than there's no
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  Speaker 3: movement toward a deal with the Tigers. And believe whatever
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  Speaker 3: you want from reporting out there, this has been pretty
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  Speaker 3: quiet for a while. I do wonder if it's time
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  Speaker 3: for Tigers fans to start preparing for a scenario in
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  Speaker 3: which Alex Bregman is not a Detroit Tiger. The Boston
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  Speaker 3: Red Sox could still make a lot of sense. There's
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  Speaker 3: been some whispers that if he does end up taking
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  Speaker 3: a shorter term deal, the New York Mets could jump
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  Speaker 3: in on this, Like if he's not a Tiger already,
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  Speaker 3: I just have a hard time seeing what it is
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  Speaker 3: that's going to change that would suddenly allow the Tigers
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  Speaker 3: to win out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the reality the situation is that we
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  Speaker 1: as much as the ratio of talking about Bregman to
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  Speaker 1: traction for Detroit is way off.
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  Speaker 3: And even some of the report traction earlier was far
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  Speaker 3: over stated in my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, like we're doing it because I think we
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  Speaker 1: have a responsibility to address some of this stuff. But
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  Speaker 1: even if I was like a Boston Red Sox fan,
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  Speaker 1: if we were doing a Red Sox podcast, I think
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  Speaker 1: I kind of feel sickly frustrated with the lack of
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  Speaker 1: movement here, and especially if you believe like you like
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  Speaker 1: you just have like the best remaining offer. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: John Hayman was like throwing them maybe maybe Houston's out
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  Speaker 1: of it yet, which would probably be the funniest result.
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  Speaker 3: Of be hilarious. I don't know where Pari Das would
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  Speaker 3: like play on that.
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  Speaker 2: Team, but I don't know, man, Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: So so yeah, like that that market's not uh not
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  Speaker 1: not moving all that much. But I did kind of think,
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  Speaker 1: like whenever there's like one of these pseudo updates about Bregman,
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  Speaker 1: one of the things that comes to mind is, like
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if if we were just having a couple
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  Speaker 1: of beers with AJ, like what his honest assessment would
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  Speaker 1: be about like bringing in Alex at this age with
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  Speaker 1: the you know, with his resume both you know, the
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  Speaker 1: things that you like, the things that you project may
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  Speaker 1: not you know, do that well on a long term deal.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, Like what what?
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  Speaker 1: I'm just kind of curious what he would say to
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  Speaker 1: all that, because he's a front office guy too, like
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  Speaker 1: he has that training, so he understands it all.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just curious. That's not really a question.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just curious what AJ would think about this, and
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  Speaker 1: especially considering if they are at a hard line or
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  Speaker 1: you know, some other version of that word, like him
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  Speaker 1: and Scott have always kind of been lockstep, at least publicly,
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  Speaker 1: so like I imagine his true feelings are are felt
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  Speaker 1: or are known to Scott Harris.
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  Speaker 4: So like I said, I just be curious. I just
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  Speaker 4: be curious what he makes of that.
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  Speaker 1: And he's like all right, Well, if we're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: do this, and this is what my life's gonna look like,
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  Speaker 1: you know that, right? You know which me personally day
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  Speaker 1: of the day. Sometimes I'm like, they gotta go sign him,
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  Speaker 1: like this makes all the sense in the world, and
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  Speaker 1: then next day I'm like, I don't really like this
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  Speaker 1: metric here, and it's like, oh, that's not that great
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  Speaker 1: when probably had it kind of concerning for that ton
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  Speaker 1: of money in that kind of year. So I go
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  Speaker 1: back and forth myself. I've almost maybe it's because I'm
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  Speaker 1: resigned to the fact, like you said, that he's not
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  Speaker 1: going to be coming to Detroit, but until something happens,
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  Speaker 1: if possibility does exist.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think if he were to sign somewhere else,
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna see even more of that in like Detroit
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  Speaker 3: circles the devaluing of Alex Bregman.
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  Speaker 2: And that there are some arguments for it.
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  Speaker 3: And I've said, just give him seven, two hundred, it's
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  Speaker 3: just give him six, you know, one eighty whatever. Does
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  Speaker 3: he give the man what he wants, because he makes
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  Speaker 3: a lot of sense for this team. But this isn't
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  Speaker 3: a forty homer guy anymore. This isn't a seven win
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  Speaker 3: player anymore. It is probably important to keep that in perspective.
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  Speaker 3: I could see the Tigers if they don't get them spinning.
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  Speaker 3: This is like, we think we can get just as
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  Speaker 3: much out of Jase Young and Matt Vierling, and they're
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  Speaker 3: probably not correct if that were to be the thinking.
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  Speaker 3: But like, could they get eighty five to ninety percent
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  Speaker 3: of that production?
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  Speaker 2: They probably could.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean baseball and the economy. Man, there's a
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  Speaker 1: number out there to determine whatever you think is right,
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  Speaker 1: to back it up. That's that's that's that's how it works.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of markets, we are seeing movement in the relief
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  Speaker 1: picture market.
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  Speaker 4: Finally, Cody, the Dodgers have.
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  Speaker 1: Their fair share, as they do on most baseball markets.
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  Speaker 4: Power to them.
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  Speaker 1: But this is not a source of frustration for me
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  Speaker 1: because I never the term relief picture and bidding war
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  Speaker 1: connected to a Scott Harris administration.
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  Speaker 4: Just doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: It just doesn't, Like as well, tell me that gravity
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  Speaker 1: is reverse, like, don't I don't see that happening. But
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  Speaker 1: the fact that the market is moving should, hopefully, in theory,
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  Speaker 1: with twenty something days to you know, pictures and catchers reporting,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully that at least kind of moves things along that
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  Speaker 1: they can kind of fill in some.
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  Speaker 4: Of these roles that they do have.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I am still of the belief that the Tigers
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  Speaker 3: should add a relief pitcher. I think they need more
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  Speaker 3: swing and miss than their bullpen, and I don't think
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  Speaker 3: it's a responsible strategy strategy to just hope Alex Lang
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  Speaker 3: returns to form and boom. There's your answer. But I
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  Speaker 3: will side with the Tigers on like not handing out
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  Speaker 3: huge deals to relievers. Like the question looms to the
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  Speaker 3: Tigers need a traditional closer, I would kind of argue, no,
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  Speaker 3: I think they need a dominant swing and miss reliever.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it matters what inning the guy pitches.
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  Speaker 3: I think the past three years can service proof the
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  Speaker 3: Tiger's bullpen has been anywhere from solid to very good
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  Speaker 3: and they have not needed a full time closer. Closer
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  Speaker 3: still can be greatly overpaid and overvalued, overrated. But I
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  Speaker 3: thought Kirby Yates would have been a great fit for
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  Speaker 3: the Tigers. Probably would have been my top choice. He's gone.
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  Speaker 3: I thought Paul Seawald would have been a good fit.
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  Speaker 3: He's gone with a le cleric guy, higher walk rate,
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  Speaker 3: But the guy thought I had huge upside. Would be
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  Speaker 3: very curious to see him work with purst veteran Robin Lund.
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  Speaker 3: He's off the market, so this list of relief pitchers
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  Speaker 3: available is getting thin quickly. David Robertson's still out there,
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  Speaker 3: Kimley Jansen is still out there. There were a couple
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  Speaker 3: others that makes sense. I think Kimley Jansen could be
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  Speaker 3: kind of cool, bring a little swagger, but also veteran experience.
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  Speaker 3: The walk rate is a little bit higher, but man
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  Speaker 3: Kinley has had double digit ks per nine and good
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  Speaker 3: strikeout raids pretty much his entire career. Still an effective pitcher.
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  Speaker 3: I think it would be a mistake to not bring
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  Speaker 3: in someone to help take this bullpen to the next
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  Speaker 3: level or ensure it can sustain what it was doing
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  Speaker 3: in the second half last year.
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  Speaker 1: Well to that note, like if we're throwing names around there,
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  Speaker 1: then that around that area, around that age or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: that makes me go back to this veteran leadership thing
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  Speaker 1: and and all that stuff. And you know, Jensen, for
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  Speaker 1: all of his faults, it's the guy is seeing pretty
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  Speaker 1: much every situation that there is in in the game, right,
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  Speaker 1: So like that could be a valuable tool as well.
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  Speaker 4: Uh So, like that.
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  Speaker 1: That part intrigues me as in makes me okay to
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  Speaker 1: overlook like he's not being brought in as a savior.
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  Speaker 1: None of these guys we brought in as a bullpen savior.
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  Speaker 1: So therefore, like you're looking at some intangible stuff and
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  Speaker 1: some specific roles. And I think we haven't really seen
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  Speaker 1: this yet, but one of the iterations that would be
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  Speaker 1: like a like a like a test for this regime
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  Speaker 1: and this pitching staff and sports science staff and all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff is And honestly, Cob probably be an example
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  Speaker 1: of this too, is bringing in and getting like everything
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  Speaker 1: out of someone with some put it kindly seasons on
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  Speaker 1: the arm. You see what I'm saying, Like we've seen
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  Speaker 1: them kind of like make moves to like maximize young
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  Speaker 1: players potential, you know, like the bow Riskies of the world.
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  Speaker 1: But I think another, like another way that's gonna make
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  Speaker 1: you a stable franchise is to be able to sell
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  Speaker 1: to older pitchers to come here. We've seen this and
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  Speaker 1: like relievers, I guess I'm saying specifically because they've done
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  Speaker 1: this in the starting pitching market a little bit. But
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  Speaker 1: I get your guys north of thirty three years old,
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  Speaker 1: it's like come here and we'll get the most out
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  Speaker 1: of you and we'll make you successful. And you know
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  Speaker 1: after that is kind of, you know, up to you,
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  Speaker 1: so that you know, just something that's kind of kicking
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  Speaker 1: around my mind as well. Another thing kind of kicking
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  Speaker 1: around my mind, Cody, is you know, this past weekend
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  Speaker 1: there was a fan fest for the Rangers and and
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  Speaker 1: by the way, these guys had a busy day because
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  Speaker 1: there's also like a huge card show up in Allen,
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  Speaker 1: so they were in Arlington in the morning. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of them went up to this card show and Allen
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  Speaker 1: for autographs and stuff. I mean, that's about that's basically
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  Speaker 1: the whole metroplex. You're basically driving Connecticut to go from
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  Speaker 1: these two spots. I think it would be nice for
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  Speaker 1: me to see that happen with the Tigers, especially. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even trying to get into like nitty gritty stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm just trying to put things together where it's
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  Speaker 1: like you make the postseason. There's all this optimism with
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  Speaker 1: the franchise. You know, Glaber Torres is no you know,
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  Speaker 1: huge star, but he is a name that you brought
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  Speaker 1: in there that can excite some you know, some fans
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  Speaker 1: or whatever this is. This feels like a not having
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  Speaker 1: a Tiger's pets right now feels like a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a a little bit of a missed opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: really grow the attention and the excitement going into a
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  Speaker 1: season in which you are from the top down aiming
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  Speaker 1: to win the division.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I've never quite understood or really a fan of the
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  Speaker 3: Tigers doing it away with Tigerfest, which they had four years.
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  Speaker 3: The last year there was a true Tigerfest was twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 3: Things got weird in twenty twenty, and then the Tigers
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  Speaker 3: tried to reorganize around like doing autograph signings in the
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  Speaker 3: summer or whatever. Like that's good for like kids who
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  Speaker 3: want autographs or whatever, but the point is to build
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  Speaker 3: excitement and kind of help the community get to know
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  Speaker 3: the team in the winter. There are a lot of
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  Speaker 3: teams out there that are still doing these days. I'm
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  Speaker 3: attending one of them for a story for another team
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  Speaker 3: coming up this weekend. Like you know, I think at
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  Speaker 3: the time, it was like not the most cosprohibitive thing
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  Speaker 3: to have, like heaters at Kamerica Park and the line
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  Speaker 3: the floors, and they wanted to keep it, I believe
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  Speaker 3: free and accessible to the fans. I don't know, man,
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  Speaker 3: you want to make some more revenue, sign some big
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  Speaker 3: free agents, charge twenty thirty, forty fifty bucks whatever. I
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  Speaker 3: think people would pay it, and you could do it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know they which is own the Fox Theater.
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  Speaker 3: There are plenty of other venues you could do this
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  Speaker 3: if you didn't want to have it at commit Erica Park.
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  Speaker 3: I think the biggest obstacle to having an event like
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  Speaker 3: this would be getting players physically in Detroit. But guess what,
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  Speaker 3: half the team was just in Detroit for this hitting camp.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it would have been perfect to have that
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  Speaker 3: coincide with some sort of fan fest. It's probably not
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  Speaker 3: the biggest deal in the world. It probably doesn't impact
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  Speaker 3: what's going to happen on the field this year. But
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  Speaker 3: I just think it's be a good quest.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: If you want people to be more fired up about
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  Speaker 3: Glaber torres, have them go out there and talk to
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  Speaker 3: some people, and you know, have them be a face
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  Speaker 3: people can get to see and know instead of waiting
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  Speaker 3: until March April. Point of these things is to build excitement,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't really see what the downside is.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean it cost.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not involved in all that kind of stuff, but
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  Speaker 1: I just kind of look at something like that as like,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to do it, there's a way. There's
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  Speaker 1: a way to absolutely do it. And I you know,
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  Speaker 1: Detroit's not the only place with cold weather, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, so in in January. So I just
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  Speaker 1: think that that's something that you could parlay last season's
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  Speaker 1: success into this and it would and it would there
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  Speaker 1: would be no downside, like you said, So hopefully it's
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  Speaker 1: something that comes back, especially as some of these like
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  Speaker 1: the second tier of the young core come up, Like
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna be another way to kind of draw like
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  Speaker 1: people in and you know, make some of these kids
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  Speaker 1: like lifelong fans of like the jobs of the world,
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  Speaker 1: the clerks of the world, which, uh, which, which brings
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  Speaker 1: us to our next kind of topical thing. This morning,
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  Speaker 1: Cody Baseball America put out their top one hundred prospects
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  Speaker 1: lists and the Tigers very well represented, got five in
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  Speaker 1: the top one hundred and there's only I believe three
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  Speaker 1: teams that have more and it's all within two I
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  Speaker 1: think seven with the top in Seattle. So things again
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  Speaker 1: continue to look good for the organization coming off a
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  Speaker 1: playoff when I know these guys weren't necessarily directly related
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  Speaker 1: to that. But Jackson Jobe comes in at number three overall,
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  Speaker 1: Max Clark number twenty two, Kevin McGonagall number twenty three.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about guys, they're just going to be always lanked,
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  Speaker 1: really closet. Somebody that I think I'm very excited to
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  Speaker 1: watch this year, but we just don't know much about
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  Speaker 1: last year's first round pick. Bryce Rayner checks in at
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  Speaker 1: number sixty and if he's any sort of prospect that
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  Speaker 1: you drafted in the Beat, he's going to shoot up
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  Speaker 1: those boards. And then Tyron Lorenzo number sixty nine. So
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  Speaker 1: the Flairty deal represented there in the top one hundred,
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  Speaker 1: and you could argue there are some other guys that
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  Speaker 1: maybe would be deserving, you know, Brasinio not on the list,
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  Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. So you see that list,
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  Speaker 1: there anything kind of stand out to you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm most surprised Bersenio's out on the list. Give any
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  Speaker 3: one of a triple crown in the AFL. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there's some limitations to his profile, but I think he
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  Speaker 3: could be a top end back one hundred player. And
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  Speaker 3: there's not related to the Baseball Amercle. But I'm still
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  Speaker 3: like tripping over the fact Baseball Perspectus had Kevin McGonagall
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  Speaker 3: as its number six overall prospect, not Max Clerk, Kevin McGonagall,
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  Speaker 3: And it just makes me wonder like, could he actually
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  Speaker 3: be that good? Some of the bad ball metrics, the
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  Speaker 3: exit ve loos, the data suggests he has that sort
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  Speaker 3: of profile, and I think that's why Baseball Perspectives had
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  Speaker 3: him ranked that highly. And I think it was Dan
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  Speaker 3: Dickerson who said, you know, if you think about it
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  Speaker 3: in a way, Job Clark, some people think Clerk's top
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  Speaker 3: ten prospects.
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  Speaker 2: Some people think mcgonagal's a top ten prospect.
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  Speaker 3: In a way, maybe you have three top ten prospects.
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  Speaker 3: Whether that validates the decision to draft Max Clark or not,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure. But it just makes me really looking
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  Speaker 3: forward to watching Kevin McGonagall this year and forming more
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  Speaker 3: of an opinion of what he actually is. And you
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  Speaker 3: mentioned Bryce Rayner too, a guy who didn't play after
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  Speaker 3: his draft. Think he kind of out of side, out
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  Speaker 3: of mind a little bit. I believe he had a
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember for his a handstring, I think a
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  Speaker 3: groin injury that was part of the reason he didn't
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  Speaker 3: play in like the the Florida Gulf Coast League or
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  Speaker 3: anything like that. It's going to be a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of a slower development for Rainer. I don't think the
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  Speaker 3: Tigers are at all looking to shoot him through the system.
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  Speaker 3: I think they view him as a prospect who will
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  Speaker 3: take a little longer to develop, even than Max Clark,
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  Speaker 3: maybe just a little bit more raw at the plate.
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  Speaker 3: But like we haven't seen Bryce Rainer yet, we haven't
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  Speaker 3: heard much since he was drafted. I'm excited to see
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  Speaker 3: him in spring training.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, longtime listeners of us know that we
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  Speaker 1: love the Marcela Meyer and Jackson job updates. But there's
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  Speaker 1: another one that's kind of developing that we're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to talk about. We're well aware of the why at
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  Speaker 1: Langford conversation in regards to the Max Clark pick, and
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  Speaker 1: we adjudicated that about you know, signing and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: We've been we've been through it. But one thing that's
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  Speaker 1: not gettingtting talked about. I don't know if anyone's paying
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  Speaker 1: send into the buzz of one Walker Jenkins like he's
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  Speaker 1: he is up there on all these lists. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of them, if not most or all of them higher
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  Speaker 1: than Max Clark, like people love themselves and Walker Jenkins,
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  Speaker 1: and if you guys don't know who that is, he
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  Speaker 1: was the other prep outfielder from that draft that basically
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  Speaker 1: you were just going to talk about both of them
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: at the same time if you were doing any sort
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: of draft prep that year. I never heard him linked
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: really at all to the Tigers, if memory serves. But
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: you know, good for him for having a nice start
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: to his professional career. But that's gonna be another thing.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: It could be, hopefully, because I root for success for people.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Hopefully he got three star outfielders out of the top
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: ten of this draft in Jenkins, Langford and Clark, which,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: by the way, if you look at MLB pipeline.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: Is doing again, sorry about the dogs.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: MLB Pipeline is doing these you know tools lists and
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: top you know whatever's for you know, by position. You know,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Clark is you know, obviously up there in the top ten.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: But the tools like the arm, the glove, the speed,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: he's he's considered among, if not the best. And then
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: the bat is the one thing that like, while I'm
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: not concerning, it's just like it's the one thing that's got.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: It's the one tool that's got to catch up. So
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: that's what that's what we're watching for this year.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: It's not a bad and the question looms is he
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: a short stop? Is McGonagall a short stop? Is he
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: a second baseman? One reason I'm excited to watch him
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: this year to kind of begin making that judgment.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: And if he hits like he like it looks like
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: he can, I don't particularly care. Just fine to find
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: find a spot, all right.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Another one here, Cody, Just to tie up the prospect thing,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Jase Young gets that prospect list and he's number six
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: or whatever. Like Jason has always been a weird guy
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: in the like top one hundred prospect lists, Like he's
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: as far as first round picks and majority consensus top
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: one hundred prospects. Once he you know, kind of got
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: his feet under him professionally, he's about as unheralded as
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: they come.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: That's a weird thing to say, Like even though.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Like projection wise, he made the big leagues at was
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: obviously a reasonable clip for a college guy.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: H he hasn't had a lot of fanfare. There's a reason.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, we spent all off season basically trying to
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: get the Tigers to sign somebody to replace him in
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the lineup essentially, But I don't know, Like I'm optimistic
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: about him as selfishly as a big twelve guy, but
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: they had him as the most to prove amongst the
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: third base prospects MLB, which by the way, is a
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: very top heavy top ten. Most guys are either already
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: made the big leagues or by twenty twenty six, or
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: they're expected arrival, So it's a very very top heavy
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: life us there.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: But he's a guy who got on.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Base at a I would say mature clip in his
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: thirty four games. And if you go and you look
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: at his thirty four games compared to Colt Keith last year,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: like first thirty four, first fifty, like, there was a
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: lot to like about what Young showed last year. And
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I would wager if he has because he doesn't profile
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: as the hitter as Colt Keith, right, but if he
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: has a easier time adjusting this season to playing, he's
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: not gonna be an everyday good player.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: But somewhat every day, it might make the.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Administration look a little bit bad for not having Keith
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and j n or excuse me, yeah, Keith and jay
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: N start out, it gets some big league reps a
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago before the twenty twenty four season, So.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Kind of like two approaches there.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think people are kind of, you know, thinking
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: about that way, but two approaches there to get some
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: guys some reps here, and I think Jays if you
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: baseball reference two forty eight, three thirty two on base.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Not a ton of power.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: They project him to be more of a gap hitter
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: than over the wall hitter. I think there's a case
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: to be made that maybe this guy's maybe he's like
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: the sleeper of the team. I don't have like a
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: huge thing to say here, but if he's finally healthy,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: he's some version of adequate defensively, and he has a
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: played approach that tracks maybe we shouldn't be spending you know,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: hours a week trying to replace him.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's when been one of my questions all
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: off season. How did the Tigers actually feel about this guy?
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: He was a number twelve overall pick. I think we
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: can take for granted that he's a pretty pure hitter,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Like this guy has just hit at every level. He
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: is I think three seventy seven career on base percentage
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: in the minors. Power was down a little bit last
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: year and wasn't really there at all in his big
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: league stint. But he's dealing with the risk injury, and
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I've heard that risk injury I actually did affect him
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: and limit his power at the plate. The defense at third,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I don't think is good. I think it's a little
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: better at second. But you know, is he an everyday
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: caliber MLB player is going to be the big question?
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: How well can he hit lefties?
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: My least favorite thing to do is to hype up
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: young players in the scouting world. It's just kind of
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: easier to project guys on the lower end that ends
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: up being right more often than not. And so there's
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: some things in Young's profile that scare me. But to
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: your point, like I like to get the way this
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: guy plays the game. All he's ever really done is hit.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: He hasn't necessarily had these long adjustment periods, even in
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: the way Cole Keith has. Yeah, he was still adjusting
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: to the major league while posting a three sixty plus
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: one base percentage. That's where I kind of go back to, like,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: all right, if they don't get Bregman is it the
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: end of the world.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Is it doomsday? It's not doomsday. I think they.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Deserve to be criticized if they don't get Alex Bregman.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: But could you get eighty five to ninety percent of
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: his production with a veerling Young platoon or add someone
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: else into that mix? And I tend to think that
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: might be possible based on what Jase Young can do
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: with the bat.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just to tie a bow on that real quick.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Colt Keith was batting one fifty two thirty four games
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: into his career, and and the fact that he finished
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: his strong Like, if you look at his overall numbers
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: for the season, it gives you an idea of just
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: how damn good he was to finish the year once
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: he got his footing. So there's something to be said
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: for that. Uh So, Yeah, I mean there's there's a
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: curiosity element to Young that I just as you accept reality,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I guess that might be the theme of this podcast.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: As you accept reality, you know, kind of accepting like
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: maybe this kid has something. Again, I'm not even projecting
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: like anything high end, but you know, just something formidable.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Speaking of reality, let's go to the opposite.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: That's fun.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Let's have some fun here as we wrap up on
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a Wednesday night. So let me preface it by this,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: in October, after the season ended for the Tigers, and
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I were to tell you, so, the Tigers are going
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: to make a free agents move, and it's gonna be
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: for glabor Taurus, and he's not gonna play third base,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: He's gonna play second base. And then you're gonna move
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Colt Keith after one year from second base to first base,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: and then you're essentially boxing out special Torgelsen from being
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: on the team. I think one of the words you
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: would describe those series of events would be, Oh, it's
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: kind of weird, a little bit out of the box.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Not not necessarily bad, just a little out of the box.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to think of some somewhat out of
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: the box ways to kind of bolster the lineup. And
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: one of them is a guy who, uh, like Alex Bregman,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: is beloved by the team that he came up with,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and like Alex Bregman, turned down a lucrative contract extension,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: and like Alex Bregman as a Boris client, and like
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Alex Bregman, is currently currently unemployed. And that is Tee Alonzo.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: So I asked you this, Cody p Alonzo, first baseman.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: What's what's what say you about? Like, why don't you
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: see if Pete will sign for two years fifty million
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: thirty In the first year, he gets a it's a
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: player option. After one he gets a twenty million dollar
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: insurance policy essentially, which would be the low end of
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: his market.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: As him now.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: And just say hey, come in here and hit. You'll
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: play some first base spell cold Keith occasionally be mainly
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: a DH obviously, but you're signing a guy who you
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: should hit, make an All Star team, hit thirty home
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: runs and raises the profile of your team a little bit.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: What about that?
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: What do you think about that?
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I think there's zero chance that would happen.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: If we want to go back to living in reality,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: the Tigers move Cole Keiths to first base. I don't
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: think he's going to third base. They moved him off
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: about a year ago in Labor Torres. You signed him
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: under the understanding he was a second baseman, so he's
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: not shifting to third base. And the idea that Alondo
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: is going to sit in the DH spot most days,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: or Keith sits in the DH spot.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Most days just.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Isn't how the Tigers operate. So I think there is
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: realistically zero world where Pete Alonzo fits, but at least
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: some interesting questions. You're signing labor Tours when ped Alonzo
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: was still in the market. Now, I think p Alonso
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: are a little bit overrated, a little bit more of
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: a name and a home run derby guy than let
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: me just look at his war He's been a not
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: up to the standard of a three war player the
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: past two years. The power is there, and the power
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: is real, but he's not a very good defender. He's
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: not a very good average or on base guy. I mean,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: the power is legit, but otherwise I see why the
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Tigers weren't in on him when he was asking for
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: whatever he was asking for. But if his market is
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: kind of cratering, I think maybe I'd rather have him
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: than labor tours. So if you're looking to kind of
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: like deconstruct all this, it does lead back to the
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: question like why did the Tigers not get a first baseman.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: The only player they've been tangibly linked to, I think
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: was Carlos Santana, who ended up signing with the Guardians.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: There were Christian Walker whispers, but maybe they didn't want
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: to give up a draft pick, and like I was
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: never a fan of the Paul goldschmind idea, but there
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: were options out there and they're still the best of
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: those options is still out there.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: And they get Glaber one fifteen.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: I think it's I think the Glaber thing might work
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: out just fine, but I do think it is fair
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: to question it when Peter Lonzo is still sitting out
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: there on the market.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: So my thing.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Is that like the Glaber thing, I have no doubt
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: would like work. I think it's gonna work as intended.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I still it would work if there was another move coming.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that well.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think you signed him for what he is.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be some I don't think
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be some jump. I don't think he's getting
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: a six year at contract next season. I think he's
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: gonna be this solid, right handed hitting you know infielder
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: who you're gonna scratch your head a couple times defensively
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: and on the base pass.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: I think he is what he is, and I think
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: it could work.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Like it's gonna work for what you intended him to
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: do in my opinion, but it is a one year
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: structure thing. So again, like the whole pi Alonzo ideas,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: like what if you just kind of said, let's get
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: weird for a year and see what happens as we
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: try to, you know, kind of figure out the best
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: use of this team, which is still very young, very
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: very young.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: As we talked about.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: But how is this song for size Cody?
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: There is an outfielder out there that is a free
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: agent who wasn't All Star last year, and I'm looking
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: at his Baseball Savant page right now and it kind
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: of looks like he dominates the strike zone. His name
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: is Jerkson Profar. Jerkson Profar has been on my radar
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: for years, obviously living in North Texas. But I went
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: and kind of looked at some of his like percentile rankings,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: which you know, you can take those for whatever you want,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: but this dude does not chase. He's not with He
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: wants a decent club on strike out that much. And
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: he unlocked some power last season while not increasing his
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: strikeout percentage, like like he did the thing that you
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: would just like envision, Oh, it wouldn't be great if
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: you could increased power but not increase your K your
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: K percentage.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: He did that.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: He did that.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Not much of a defender, obviously, but there is versatility
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: in there, so you can play around with him a
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: little bit.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: And I envision.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Kind of having like like almost like a real four
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: man outfield, kind of call it threeagues. I don't think
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Parker Metals fits into this too much, but if you
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: wanted to round it up, you could where you basically
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: have Carpenter, you have Green, and you have Profar. Two
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: of those guys on most days are going to be
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: in the outfield, and the third one could be DH
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: right and then against Lefti's obviously Profar is a switch,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: so that gives you lefty percentage for the Carpenters of
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: the world. For you know, you know Green plays every day,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: but if you just didn't really like that matchup, you
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have to play Green, if that makes sense. So
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Jergson Profar was kind of petering out a little bit
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: over the past couple of years, and then he found this,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: you know, new stroke if you would, and he wants
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: according the Jet Passion, this a couple months ago. Could
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: it be still true, I don't know, but he wants
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: to Reportedly like a three year deal.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: So what if you.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Threw him three for fifty, three for you know, three
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: for anything, Yeah, you know whatever, you get created three
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: for forty five, three for fifty, you throw in the
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: player option, put a mutual option in there if you
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: want to. You can figure out a way, I think,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: to bring him into this lineup and he would bolster
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: like just the offensive numbers alone, he bolsters the lineup
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: more than Torres does. Then I would feel more comfortable
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: with him that like three for email Ali in the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: go three for sixty than what Santander got Stan. I'm
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: sorry I mispronounced it, but you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I would feel more comfortable with that than some of
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: these contracts that are being dished out for a guy
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: who offers a lot of things that you value as
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: an organization is there for you. So I think the
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: more I constructed, like this lineup and what it could do,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I think the Profar thing it makes a lot of sense.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I think you lay out a pretty compelling case.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: You know, Profar hasn't been linked to the Tigers that
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: we know of this offseason, then really he's never been
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: linked to the Tigers despite being a free agent in
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: recent years when the Tigers were not that good, and
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: there have been previous years where that surprised me. I
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: think the question now is how much do you believe
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: in what he did last year? It was easily the
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: best year of his career. He was a four point
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: three wins above replacement player, and the quality of his
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: contact was just radically better. At age thirty one, he
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: went from having eighty six point five average exit velocity
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: in the bottom nine percent tile of the league to
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: ninety one point one mile part hour average exit velocity.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: His barrel rate shot up, his hard hit rate went
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: from thirty one percent to forty four percent, like almost
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: such as a distinct jump that you just don't really
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: see at age thirty one, Like almost to the point
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: where I'm like, maybe that's not a fluke, Like his
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: adjustments must have really made a real difference, to the
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: point maybe he could repeat it. A switch hitter, career
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: splits are unimpressive from both sides, but last year he
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: really rates against lefties. So it's kind of like which
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Jerkson profar are we talking about, twenty twenty three profar
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: or twenty twenty four Profar. I think given the inherent
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: risk in that question. I would not touch this dude
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: on a three year deal. But if you get him
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: for one, you're in in this Tigers universe where they
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: miss Album and Bregman and you're just trying to somehow
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: strengthen this roster.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I think there's a pretty interesting case for one Jerks
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: and Profar.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean part of me is just like fantasizing
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: about a team that's gonna make me excited to watch
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: when they're at the plate and frustrated, uh to watch
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: when they're in the field.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: It might be the.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Exception of Parker Meadows and Riley Green right right right,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: But like, like again, like there there are opportunities out there,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I think, and again not to say that they would
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: do it or like this would be perfect, but there
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: are opportunities out there for them to pivot if they wish,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: because you know, by the way, Profar is linked to
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: the Blue Jays just like everybody else is.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: So like you.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Get I because some of it is like can you
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: actually find a role for this guy in the team,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: And I think there is an actual real Profar role
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: that you.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Get pro versatile. It makes a ton of sense.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get and you might be able to shed
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: another guy and have more room for like a.
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  Speaker 4: J Hen if you bring in a Profar.
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  Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, Like, there's there's that element
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  Speaker 1: to it there, because I if I can, if I
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  Speaker 1: can find a way to not have to carry I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to try to cut somebody on this podcast,
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  Speaker 1: but I have to carry one of my other utility guys.
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  Speaker 1: And then also that allows me to have Jay Hen
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  Speaker 1: full time and let him develop and let him be
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  Speaker 1: against my lefties first baseman, right like that That intrigues
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  Speaker 1: me a lot. That intrigues me a lot, and I
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  Speaker 1: think it makes them more formidable to win, to win
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  Speaker 1: the division.
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  Speaker 3: The one thing he would be occupying a pretty duplicate
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  Speaker 3: role as one winsil Peraz. That might be a utility
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  Speaker 3: guy who, in this theoretical universe would lose out on
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  Speaker 3: the spot.
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  Speaker 2: And that makes the question interesting too.
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  Speaker 3: Would you rather pay for the risk factor of Jerks
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  Speaker 3: and Profar hoping you get the upside, or give it
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  Speaker 3: bats to a young guy who was pretty good last year.
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  Speaker 3: It might be tough to have him both on the
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  Speaker 3: roster at the same time. And if the Tigers would
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  Speaker 3: argue in favor of mensil Carez, I would understand it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Perez element is investment in the
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  Speaker 1: young player and you know, earmarking at bats for the
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  Speaker 1: young players and all that stuff. And you could argue
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's a little bit changed from you know, usual character,
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  Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's a low long term
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  Speaker 1: risk move here potentially, and you know somebody's going to
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  Speaker 1: get hurt of Winze would have plenty of opportunities to
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  Speaker 1: impact the team in the big league. So like and
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  Speaker 1: also as much as I like him, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: he should prevent you from making some move that could
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  Speaker 1: help your major league team, like get to the playoffs
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  Speaker 1: again and in a real way. So yeah, So that
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  Speaker 1: that that's kind of my mindset on that. So I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Tell us what you think you do.
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  Speaker 1: You are these outside the box ideas a little bit
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  Speaker 1: too outside the box?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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