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Inside The Tape With Greg Cosell: Under Center Formations Added New Dimension To Eagles Offense · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, welcome to Inside the Tape On Inside the Birds,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Mosher with Adam Kaplan, and of course with
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  Speaker 1: Inside the Tape, we always bring in man who breaks
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  Speaker 1: down more NFL tape than anyone we know, and that
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  Speaker 1: is Greg Cosell. And Greg, the Eagles are back in
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  Speaker 1: the win column. Everything is great, they're going back to
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Everybody's a Hall of Famer, you know
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  Speaker 1: the drill. The Eagles beat the Vikings in Week seven,
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  Speaker 1: they snap a two game losing streak, they win twenty eight,
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  Speaker 1: twenty two. And as always, you're going to take us
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  Speaker 1: through the tape breakdown on offense and defense. And for
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  Speaker 1: this episode, this first part, we're gonna start with offense
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  Speaker 1: because what a breakout we saw from the Eagles passing game, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: in the second half. But before we really dive into
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  Speaker 1: the nitty gritty, just tell us some big picture bullet
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  Speaker 1: points that stood out from you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think, first of all, it's a number of
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  Speaker 2: plays under center. They had nineteen under center, and I
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  Speaker 2: think there were only one or twoush pushes, so it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't a case where it was a function of tush push.
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  Speaker 2: And in the previous six games. He'd been under center
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  Speaker 2: forty eight snaps and they were multiple tush push plays obviously,
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  Speaker 2: as we all know. So I think that's something that
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  Speaker 2: really stood out, is the way they put them under center,
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  Speaker 2: and you would think that that's something they'll do going forward,
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  Speaker 2: because I just think it gives you so many more
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  Speaker 2: options And just so people understand who may be hearing
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  Speaker 2: us for the first time, you do not have the
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  Speaker 2: have to run the ball effectively for the play action
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  Speaker 2: pass game to work under center, because I know that
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  Speaker 2: that's automatically said as if it's gospel, and it's been
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  Speaker 2: proven time and time again going back one hundred years
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  Speaker 2: that that's not the case.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, and that was clearly not the case against
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  Speaker 1: the taking right because.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, That's that's why I wanted to make that point.
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  Speaker 2: You know. I also thought that and we can get
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  Speaker 2: into the detail of it, but I really thought that
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  Speaker 2: the play that really changed the game was the Smith
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  Speaker 2: seventy nine yard touchdown, which was on the first piece
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  Speaker 2: of the third quarter. It was actually the second play
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  Speaker 2: of the third quarter, and the way they set that
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  Speaker 2: up with what they did in the first half, I
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  Speaker 2: thought it was absolutely fascinating and just an example of
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  Speaker 2: great coaching. I guarantee the coaches upstairs saw how they
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  Speaker 2: reacted to that particular personnel package and formation and knew
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  Speaker 2: that they had an opportunity. And that, to me is football.
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  Speaker 2: That's one reason guys, I love football, because that, to
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  Speaker 2: me is football. And we'll get into that. I imagine
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  Speaker 2: your show will be looking at that play and I
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  Speaker 2: can just explain, you know, it in a little more detail.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, plays like that. Obviously, seventy nine yard
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  Speaker 2: touchdowns don't happen very often in the NFL. But it
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  Speaker 2: was just really you know, when I saw that, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh, well, they saw it and they knew
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  Speaker 2: and it just you know, I think that stood out
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  Speaker 2: to me as an individual play that came from something prior.
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  Speaker 3: So Greg, you told us in our pregame show that
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  Speaker 3: one thing you have to understand with Brian flo And
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  Speaker 3: I know you're talking about how good he is, but
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  Speaker 3: there are voids in his own defenses and golly well,
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  Speaker 3: here's the funny thing you said, and you were you
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  Speaker 3: were definitely right. It was just Aj Brown didn't get
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  Speaker 3: as much as Deontae Spith, but Brown of course had
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  Speaker 3: his plays. Was it kind of Okay, after watching the tape,
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  Speaker 3: this is what I've suxpected for the voids.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we did talk on Friday, and you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think we all understood that you can throw the ball
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  Speaker 2: on this team, and if you can protect, you can
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  Speaker 2: throw the football. And for the most part, they protected
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  Speaker 2: and they were able to throw the ball. There were
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  Speaker 2: a lot of voids in the coverage, you know, for
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  Speaker 2: a team. One thing I've noticed about Brian Flores and
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  Speaker 2: I know he's really good and he's super highly respected
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  Speaker 2: because it is a difficult defense to play against, but
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  Speaker 2: it's not as if it's a shutdown defense. They do
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  Speaker 2: give up plays. We talked about that on Friday in
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  Speaker 2: our pregame show, and that's that's not an interpretation. That's
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  Speaker 2: what history shows. There are plays to be made in
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  Speaker 2: the passing game, and there are voids because what he
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  Speaker 2: does a lot is and then actually in this game,
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  Speaker 2: he rushed six a number of times, and that means
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  Speaker 2: there's only five in coverage and you're trying to and
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  Speaker 2: they're not playing zero. Just so people understand, they were
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  Speaker 2: not playing pure man. They don't play pure man very often.
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  Speaker 2: There were some snaps of it in this game, but
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  Speaker 2: that's not the foundation of Brian Flora's defensive philosophy, So
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  Speaker 2: they end up having to zone match, and it's hard
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  Speaker 2: to zone match with only five. It's just a very
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  Speaker 2: difficult thing to do. So there are voids in the coverage.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Greg, I would imagine that the Flora's philosophy by
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  Speaker 1: sending six and being as exotic as he is with
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  Speaker 1: his blitz schemes, as that he thinks he's going to
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  Speaker 1: get your quarterback before they find the voids. But I've correct.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the Eagles offensive line in pass protection did
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  Speaker 1: fairly well. Did you think that on tape that show?
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  Speaker 2: I thought Maya Alata had a strong game in pass pro,
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  Speaker 2: and he'd been struggling for much of this season. I
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  Speaker 2: thought he played really well. You know, you know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about the fact that they don't play a
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  Speaker 2: lot of man coverage, but you know, that first touchdown
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  Speaker 2: that ended the first possession was a classic case where
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  Speaker 2: they did play two man coverage and Cashman was a
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  Speaker 2: spy and Hurts say they were only rushing three, so
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  Speaker 2: Hurtz ended up with five seconds in a very clean pocket.
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  Speaker 2: They generated no pressure on him and he was pretty
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  Speaker 2: much able to tell Brown to adjust his route vertically
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  Speaker 2: against Mattalis, who you really don't want to be covering
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  Speaker 2: Brown anyway. But it happened because of motion. But you know, again,
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  Speaker 2: so that's what happens if you don't get there. That
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  Speaker 2: play happened, as I said, to be man coverage. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, if he's going to be in the pocket
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  Speaker 2: for five seconds and you have Mettellis and aj Brown,
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  Speaker 2: not really good things are going to happen for the
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  Speaker 2: Vikings defense. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So then let's also talk about the rushing offense, which
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  Speaker 1: once again was not impactful. They had an injury cam
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  Speaker 1: Jurgens came out, Tooth came in. I didn't clip the play,
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  Speaker 1: but there was a minus six to say on Saquon
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  Speaker 1: Barkley run where it's just I don't even know if
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  Speaker 1: Tooth had a chance to make make well play go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what I thought. I you know, I thought that
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  Speaker 2: Toth limited their run game concepts because there are certain
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  Speaker 2: movement blocks he cannot make from the offensive tackle position.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought there were a couple of times, and
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  Speaker 2: I had this validated by someone in the organization because
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  Speaker 2: I was curious that I thought that there are a
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  Speaker 2: couple of times they asked him to make blocks that
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  Speaker 2: he can't make, and I know the play you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: I made a note of that because quite frankly, you know,
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  Speaker 2: based on the Vikings defensive front, on that minus six
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  Speaker 2: yard play, he was asked to make a block on
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  Speaker 2: a three technique d tackle Redmond, who's actually a pretty
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  Speaker 2: good player as we saw in this game, that he
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  Speaker 2: can't fys that tough can't physically make. Now, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: ripping the coaching staff. You still got to run your plays.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know you're not gonna all of a
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  Speaker 2: sudden go into a ninth grade run game just because
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  Speaker 2: Brent Toath is playing center. You know, you still have
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  Speaker 2: to run your plays. But there's just things he physically
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  Speaker 2: can't do.
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  Speaker 1: Adam, It's pretty interesting, right, Like the Eagles in the
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter had a lead and they can't run the ball.
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  Speaker 1: They were trying to and ultimately they had to take
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  Speaker 1: the aggressive approach and throw it there to aj Brown
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  Speaker 1: for the kill shot at the end. But ordinarily they
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  Speaker 1: would love to have just gotten more out of Saquon
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  Speaker 1: in there.
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  Speaker 3: To throw that that was aggressive, That was its funny
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  Speaker 3: shades of Kellen Moore last year did it yep, But
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  Speaker 3: that's when they were running the ball. Right here, they're
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  Speaker 3: not running the ball. They can't run the clock out
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  Speaker 3: because they can't. You know, it's one thing if you
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  Speaker 3: tris won a grind clock, you don't care about first
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  Speaker 3: downs if you're up by seventeen points. But when you're
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  Speaker 3: up such a slim margin and you can't run the
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  Speaker 3: ball to get a first dout, you have to throw
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  Speaker 3: the football. That's just you make a good point. We
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  Speaker 3: may see this going forward now if they have a
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  Speaker 3: lead in the fourth quarter and it's tight though, you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to throw the ball to win.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the thing is too you know. The Vikings win
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  Speaker 2: zero consecutive players was less less than two minutes remaining,
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  Speaker 2: and the second one, of course with the Brown slugo
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  Speaker 2: where it was for forty five yards, so you know,
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  Speaker 2: running the ball was not likely an option there, just
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  Speaker 2: because there were so many people on the line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 2: But you're right, we've seen them do that in the
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  Speaker 2: past where in critical moments late in the game, if
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  Speaker 2: they feel they're getting significant pressure, they do throw it up.
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  Speaker 2: And Brown is as good as there is in a
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  Speaker 2: league on those that one. Of course, he was wide
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  Speaker 2: open because he ran slugo and Rogers as you would expect.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Rogers really didn't. You can't rip Rogers. They
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  Speaker 2: went zero and he's playing the slant, which, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: a few plays earlier, you know, he threw it behind
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  Speaker 2: Brown which almost was intercepted, you know, and would have
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  Speaker 2: changed our whole discussion. But yeah, the run game, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you could have won a lot of bets if you
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  Speaker 2: would have said that seven games into the Eagles season,
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  Speaker 2: take on Barkley does not have a twenty plus yard run.
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  Speaker 2: You could have won a lot of bets. Take the
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  Speaker 2: under on the yard is for the season.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and guys, I wonder I know the Eagles offense
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  Speaker 1: wasn't great in the first half outside of the one
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  Speaker 1: touchdown to AJ Brown, But as Greg is pointing out,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll get into on tape, a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: things that they were able to do in the second half,
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  Speaker 1: from the DeVante Smith touchdown seventy nine yards to the
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  Speaker 1: slant slugo that AJ Brown that Greg just referred to,
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  Speaker 1: was because of things that they did in the first
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  Speaker 1: half that may not have executed the way they want
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  Speaker 1: but out of the formation, right, So they were they
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  Speaker 1: were they were able to make plays in the second
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  Speaker 1: half that they were setting up in the first half.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're going to look for a silver lining
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  Speaker 1: for lethargic first half, at least you were able to
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  Speaker 1: to do what you wanted in the second half become.
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  Speaker 3: Let's take a look.
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  Speaker 1: So the Eagles offense and we'll take a look at
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  Speaker 1: some of the plays in Greg, you will start diagnosing.
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  Speaker 1: This is the first This is obviously the touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: Is this the first touchdown to aj Brown?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? This is the backyard player where he tells Aja,
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  Speaker 1: why don't you go there? And Greg, I just want
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  Speaker 1: you to Obviously we all saw what happen, right, but
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  Speaker 1: with the point thing, go but diagnose it from what
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  Speaker 1: the Vikings were trying to do here with that three
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  Speaker 1: man Yeah, well it.
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  Speaker 2: Was it was eleven two by two off the Brown
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  Speaker 2: motion across the formation, which turned out to be critical
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  Speaker 2: because that put Metallas on Brown. So the Vikings were
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  Speaker 2: in dime and they played two man coverage and they
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  Speaker 2: spied on Hurts. So what happened here is it's only
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  Speaker 2: a three man pass for us. You can see Cashman
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  Speaker 2: sort of drop out there. He's kind of at the
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  Speaker 2: thirty eight yard line. He's just sitting there looking at
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  Speaker 2: Jail and Hurts, which of course makes sense because it's
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  Speaker 2: third down, and that's what you do. You spy. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of teams do because you have to. If you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna play man coverage against Jalen Hurts on third down
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  Speaker 2: and less than ten, you've got to account for the quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: It's just as simple as that. You can't just not
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  Speaker 2: account for Jalen Hurts because how many times over the
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  Speaker 2: years have we seen him just demoralize a defense that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't account for him, and he runs for a first down.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes he's run for touchdowns. So they're spying on him.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a three man pressure against five offensive linemens,
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  Speaker 2: so they're not getting anywhere near him. And because of
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  Speaker 2: that motion by Brown, and they don't know for a
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  Speaker 2: fact that they're gonna change the coverage and put metalas
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  Speaker 2: on him. They don't know that for a fact, But
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  Speaker 2: that's the way this played out. So you can see
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  Speaker 2: that within the context of the play call and the
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  Speaker 2: routes that there's no clean throw right here. You know,
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  Speaker 2: every everybody's pretty much covered, including Brown at the top
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  Speaker 2: of the screen with metalas pretty much next to him.
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  Speaker 2: But now Jalen is looking out that way and he
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  Speaker 2: sees clearly there's no one over the top. So what
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  Speaker 2: he does is he basically just tells Brown just go deep.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm throwing it to you. You know, we've
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  Speaker 2: got a match up here. He didn't expect maybe he'd
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  Speaker 2: be that wide open when he threw it to him,
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  Speaker 2: but it became backyard stand a lot football, and sometimes
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  Speaker 2: that's the way the game plays out.
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  Speaker 3: And that was really cool.
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  Speaker 1: And then mattell you, like Mattella's as a hybrid player Greg,
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  Speaker 1: but as a man covers on the outside against he's.
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  Speaker 2: Not a man coverage defender. But they play big nickel
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  Speaker 2: is their foundational defense. They don't really play base defense
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  Speaker 2: in a strict sense. Big nickel is their base defense.
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  Speaker 1: Right, all right, So the next play, all right, this
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  Speaker 1: is going to be the one that you said really
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  Speaker 1: opens up the game for the This is.
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  Speaker 2: The first play of the second possession. Notice the formation. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: they have six offensive linemen, which, by the way, they
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  Speaker 2: played on nine snaps. I bet no one would have
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have said that on Friday in our pre
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  Speaker 2: game show that they were going to play nine snaps
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  Speaker 2: with six offensive linemen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So so look at the formation. They it's base. It's
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  Speaker 2: a five man surface to the field because aj Brown
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  Speaker 2: is very tight to the formation, so it's it's five there.
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  Speaker 2: And you have DeVante Smith as the single receiver to
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  Speaker 2: the boundary, so he's the boundary acts which he normally isn't.
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  Speaker 2: So this is a clear specific formation that was game plan. Now,
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  Speaker 2: notice the safety to that side of the field is
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  Speaker 2: Harrison Smith. Notice where he is right now? Okay, he's
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  Speaker 2: basically down in the box. He's playing the formation. And
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  Speaker 2: the fact that it looks like run it's first and ten. Okay, Now,
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  Speaker 2: on this particular play, I think it's a four yard
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a four yard run, is it not?
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  Speaker 1: This is the actual touchdown, I believe.
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  Speaker 2: Oh are you showing the touchdown?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Well okay, Well they did this twice with this formation, Okay, right,
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  Speaker 2: then what happened? And one was a four yard run
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  Speaker 2: by Barkley and the other was a penalty on my
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  Speaker 2: Alata for holding, but that's irrelevant. You still got to look. Okay,
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: so they got this look and then they knew and
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: they came back to this on the second player of
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: the third quarter. I guarantee the coaches at halftime because
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: that comes from up top. The guys on the field
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: can't see this the way the guy's on top can.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: So the guys on top because all the coaches go
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: in the locker room at halftime and they say, hey,
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: we have a look here that you know, we need
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: to take advantage of this look. We've got it. We
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: know what we're going to get. So they got this look.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: So now what does it become. It becomes one on
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: one with DeVonta Smith on the outside against Rogers, and boy,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: see a good route around. I look at this route
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: and the way he just turns him to the sideline
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: and now you and there's no safety over the top
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: because the safety to the other side of the field.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: And this is just it's way more than pitch and catch,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: because it's not just a routine.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: This is a look at the distance, but it's the
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: touch has to be great.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: It's just it's great football all around. It's great understanding
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: of what you're getting from the defense, and it's great
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: execution by Smith. And by hurts, I mean It's just
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: like I said to you guys, this is why I
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: love football. This is football to me.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: All right? Is this the no?
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: This is the other help by Barkley too, by the way.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to show that this was not a
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: strong pass pro game.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: He didn't have one great one though that I mentioned
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: where it turned out not to be an important play
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: where he definitely I think it might have been. It
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: might have been incompletion, I can't remember. But where he
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: just laid out cashman, I believe. But but you don't
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: normally don't see that from Barkley.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: But this here, Greg is because they have enough with
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: with Fred Johnson as the six O line and six
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Barkley doesn't necessarily have to pick up a front.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: He handles leakage, and there was leakage there from to
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the leakage.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Well you can go back and look and it's easy.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: The are yards were just ridiculous.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. He threw it from
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: the end zone, so called the one.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, not the one I'm sorry he was.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: He was deeper than that.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: If you go further back you'll see it. Yeah, where
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: is further back through the sideline you'll know for sure
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: if you can.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: So he's throwing it essentially from his uh thirteen.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Fourteen fifteen fourteen.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: He's throwing it from his fourteen yard line, so it's
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: thirty six yards to the fifty, and he catches it
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: at the thirty, so it's thirty six and twenty. So
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: it's fifty six, give or take. Might be closer to
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: sixty just because there's a little probably about sixty year
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: thirty thirty yep.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, that's that's a lot of air yards.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that how I said. It's not it's not just
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: pitching catch. Even though it looked, even though it was
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: so well executed, it looked like that, right, all.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Right, on our next one, we'll have Hurtz going to
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: DeVante Smith again, Craig. This was the twenty eight yard
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: on third and fifteen. Yeah, right, So this is kind
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: of a demoralizing play for the Vikings.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: This was the second third quarter possession. This time the
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Vikings did not pressure. They went cover three behind a
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: four man d line pass rush. This was an interesting
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: play because this was Hurts kind of being Hurts but
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: then resettling because he broke down here because he saw
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: green grass in front of him, and you'll see it
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: when when you run this. You know, right now he
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: sees green grass. Okay, because look at the pass rush,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: the two interior guys go outside, so he sees space
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: in front of him, okay, and keeping you know, it's
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: third and fifteen, so it's a long way to go
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: for a first down. It's not you know, third and
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: four where all I can get the first down. So
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: he breaks down and starts to run, but then it
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: gets closed up and he has to kind of resettle
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: and refocus, and then he runs to his left and
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: gets his eyes back up and looks downfield. And smith
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: does a phenomenal job here coming back to the football. Phenomenal, Jeff.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: This has been a part we talked about in our
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: postgame show where they have not historically with Hurts do
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: a great job come back to the football. But there
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Smithy did, Brown did a one, and so Hurts, like
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: the difference between him and previous years is the one
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: thing that's interesting. Greg just put it out. He's done
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: a better job of maintaining his downfield focus because he's
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: just not run as much.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Yep, this is a pretress.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, he would have bailed and run.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: To be honest with you, he tried to. But you
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: know what, there's a lot of mobile quarterbacks. I might
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: have done this. I bet Josh Allen would have seen
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: greengrats and started to run too, you know. But it
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: started to run, it got closed off, and then he
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: had her you know, to his credit, he reset. Look
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: now he got his head up.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, this is what Carson Wentz did like thirty
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: times in the game. But Carson did and we're.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Yep, and that's not an easy throw. He's running through
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: his left and he put it right on him.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Magic pointed that out. I wanted to say that because
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: that that is not we always talk about having no
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: that's he doesn't have his feet set. But he makes
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: a really nice throw.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: That's that's that's really good. I mean, I you know, look,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks that that can run do that, and you can't
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: really call it a negative because, you know what, they
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: make a lot of plays with their legs. The key
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: there is that instead of becoming frantic, frenetic and chaotic,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: he got his head back up and he looked downfield
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: instead of just running and and you know, with almost
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say no purpose, but you know
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: what I mean, sure, yeah, I mean he made that
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: a play instead of it becoming random, he made it
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: a play.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Right, and now this becomes the very next snap, and
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: look they're under center again. To your point, Greg, there
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: you go, now, Hurts, this might have been Hurts his
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: best throw of the day because he's going to get
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: almost annihilated there as that.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Was an incredible play. And I mean, look, yeah, they
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: missed a block and he stepped up and and and
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: he he he looked at the term is looking down
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: the gun barrel. He did there because he would He was.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Funny because the pressure came from his right. He didn't right, no,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: but he didn't see it, which is actually the way
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: to play quarterback.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I feel don't see it right right? Watch that. I
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: don't know how he did it. He just he stood there,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: he stepped up and he delivered this. This is one
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: of the best words he's made.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how does being under centered dictate what the Vikings
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: are doing here? Greg? Anything?
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe not on this specific play, but let's see.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Let me say again, well, first of all, look at
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: look at uh. I forget who it is, but the
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: guy who's at a second level defender sort of between
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the hashes. Uh huh, he's stepping up right, you know
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: he's stepping up now. Again. This is you know, they
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: have a lot of voids here. I mean, this is
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: they're they're pressuring here and there's only five in coverage.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: This is what I was talking about when we started
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: talking about their defense. There's only five in coverage, and
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: they're not you can't really they're not matching up as
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: they're trying to, but they're not matching up. So if
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: you keep running at Jeff, I mean, you know who's
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: reacting to Smith here now. Again, we're not saying this
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: is an easy throw. That's not my point at all.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: No, But your point about being voids, I mean it's
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: absolutely relevant.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Point is that the fact that there's such a big
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: void helped Jalen here because he didn't have to think
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: where am I gonna throw it? So therefore, even though
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: the press sure came, he's seeing this so clearly. I mean,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: this is a big time void, you know.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's where when you're Brian floor as you think, man,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: usually in this situation, my pressure is going to get
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: to the quarterback and force a worse throw. But you
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: just what do you do when you're Brian Flair. He
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: makes a great play here.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: He also time here a little bit late, and the
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: guy comes over to deflect it.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Who got beat there? Or is that Fred? I guess
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: the extra ot?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it's not.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Oh no, you're right, that's the right, that's uh, that's
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: not Lane though.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Who is that held on?
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I think it's Steam is seventy seventy fours, that's that's Fred.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Seventy four is getting Yeah, he's trying to ride the
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: guy to the outside.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no it's not.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: It's I'm sure you're right, because there's two guys who
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: are going to get pressure. So there's is there a
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: free rusher out of this or just not get him?
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's rush. It ends up being Yeah, it ends
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: up being a stunt element, I believe, and and uh right, yes,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: if one comes underneath and and he's the guy.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: You're right. I wonder if that was a propellant. It
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: was a very slow stunt. If it was, if it was.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: A calculated stunt, or if it's just the way the
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: pass rush played out. It's hard.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good point, because he tries to arm under move
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: first instead of taking Lane Johnson and then either way,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I forget who that is sixty sixty one.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: That's that's the guy you mentioned right, Yeah, he.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Was that view. That view, Jeff makes it for even better.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: That was the time. It's pretty amazing that that he
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: was able to make this throw because his he gets
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: right there. Wow a little bit, but I mean.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Game of Frank is strong too, being built like he is.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I know he's a tall six one, but he's strong.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, throw between the numbers to it's.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Late, Jeff, that guy whoever that guy has come across,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: try to get some mandy that ball wanted to deflected
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: if he was just air late.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's is that Harrison Smith twenty two?
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean that that's a great example of the voyage.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, you just if you're gonna have five in coverage,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: there's voids.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, how tough is Davante Smith for being a
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: little guy. I mean that was not an easy grab
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: and he knew he was probably gonna get drilled. Uh,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: and he got drilled.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: He's such a receiver, he really is good.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Uh do you know he's he's six in the NFL
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: right now? In receiving, Adam, you remember in the pre
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: in the in the preseason preview we did, I said,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling that there's a higher level that
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Davante Smith might reach this year, and so far he's
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: six in the NFL and.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Receiver a huge game, you know, yep, yep.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: All right, So now we get a and by the way,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: it was twenty one to nineteen when Devonte Smith made
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: that catch. It was a close game. Uh So those
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: two completions there, the one to Smith for nineteen and
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: then for twenty one, were really big and the Eagles
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: got back on board.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: And then we get the very next play here, Greg,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I think this is.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Well, look at the voids again. Yeah, it's play action
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: too action. Yep, play action under center.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: So this is back to Devonte again, yep, and again
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: under center.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Right under center.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Now how does that dictate to the safeties? Yeah, you
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: got a safety creeping up right.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Well again, you know, it's just I see in this
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: coverage and I don't know how Brian Flores teaches it
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: to sit here and say, but yeah, but I don't
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: know who is supposed to play this. A couple of
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: things are going on here and again I get without
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: knowing how it's taught. First of all, that corner that
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: ends up just you know, sinking and sinking and sinking
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: deep up top and the safety to the bottom of
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: the screen that they're playing with. I just don't I
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: don't know how they teach it. Like I said, I
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: just don't want to say that somebody made a mistake
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: or blew it. But there's no way that Brian Flores says,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, we'll give up that void. No problem. He's
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: not saying that. So somebody here did not play this
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: the way they were. But look at fifty one again,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: and that's look at him, wait for the play action.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: And again there's not really a lot of pressure.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: No, well, man, you're.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Not really a pressure throw. Contrary. You know, I always
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: tell people because there's so many websites now that say pressure.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: You know, as I learned from Ron Jaworski for one
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: hundred years, you have to see these plays to know
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: if the quarterback can complete his throwing motion, you know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: with his lower body and upper body. It's not pressure,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: This to me was one of Hurst's best throws.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: This is just a touchdown.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Aj yep, This is Adam's favorite play design. If I'm
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: not mistaken, you like this, Adam, I do. What do
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: you call this route concept?
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Greg? Well, it's it's what what they ran here is
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: it's it's well, first of all, the formation is it's
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: it's it's closed. Well, but they put Brown in short motion. Okay,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: it's twelve personnel, it's closed to the boundary, it's twins
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: to the field. Brown goes in short motion. So the
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: vikings were in their ve.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I thought this was Bang eight, but maybe I slant
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: is a slant? I thought it was like a skinny
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: post with a vertical.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Let me see it again. Whatnot? They're running two verticals?
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, but I like I like the little. The little
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: is that that burst motion with Brown? Now when you
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: call that first.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's short burst motion basically like that. They're running
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: two verticals with the underneath. They're playing cover one. They're
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: they're running two verticals with the short burst motion.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: And Jeff, that's where a j gets in front of Murphy.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Murphy. Murphy's punnying as hell.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Murphy.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: It's cover one. Murphy's playing outside in because he has help.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: But but he gets My point is he gets in the.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: U one because of Smith's inside vertical.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Right, and he stacks him really well right there.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: It's you know, there's a very common concept because if
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: both guys fall down, theoretically he got the shallow cross
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: or into your vision, you know, underneath. So I mean
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: it's a very common route concept.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Murphy's not going to recover on that because he's just
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: not strong enough.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Ag Well, it's not a matter recovering. He's playing to
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: his help.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: No, I understand that. What I'm saying is to try
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: to get what because he doesn't have the help like
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: he thought he would have right there inside it's late.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: He could just muscle the guy, which is what he does.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: A really well timed, well placed throw. I think that's what.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Sends out to me is because we've seen a couple
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: of plays not exactly the same route concept, but where
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: between the numbers, when there's traffic and other bodies where
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Hopes doesn't want Hurts doesn't want to throw that, but
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: he threw it with such great convinced.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Look at decisiveness on that plague, Jeff, this, look at
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: them planet's footing up balls. Yeah, that's the you know.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: The other thing too, is and this is where I
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: think coaching and design marry up with helping your quarterback
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: because this route concept against any single high coverage. Okay,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: even if it's pure I mean it is cover one.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: But even if Murphy played it differently, the fact is
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: you end up with your best receiver one on one
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: running a route. So ultimately the design defines the You
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: hear me talk about that all the time, right, You
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: want to define the read in the throw. Here they
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: define the read in the throw. So there was no
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: confusion post snap for Jalen. He drops back. He just
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: confirms that that post safety you see him look down
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: the middle is not going to fly over the top.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: And once he sees that, he knows that it's you know,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: hit my back foot and throw the ball.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, balls out right now, aj
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: not yes, not yet. Looking for a great time right there.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Jeff, on your point. He unfortunately, when Hurt struggles, he
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: doesn't throw that timing that you just talked about. Right,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: He got the picture that he wanted and that ball
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: is at when he's confident, decisive, It's so obvious.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: That's what we marvel at is that when he it's
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: not like we've said this a thousand times. It is
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: not that he can't do these things that sometimes we say.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I think it was just two games ago we were
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: showing some open aj Brown routes where he just didn't
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: want to throw it and supposed to be thrown. But
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  Speaker 1: here today, in this game, in this moment, he threw
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  Speaker 1: it and then obviously go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, this is what Greg was talking about
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  Speaker 3: on our pregame show. You're gonna get these looks. Yep,
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna have spacing. Sometimes it's a lot throw the
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  Speaker 3: football boom.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now this is you know, this play is about as
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  Speaker 2: well done as you can do it. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 2: not you know. This is like I said, it's marriage
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  Speaker 2: of concept and high level quarterback play executing the concept,
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  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 1: And then of course he goes want to be able
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  Speaker 1: to run the ball out we mentioned they can't they're
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: having trouble. So sometimes you just gotta throw the ball
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  Speaker 2: And this is basically was nero. And then the time,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and we've seen Jalen do this before, he
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  Speaker 2: knows how to handle this. He throws it up. It's
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  Speaker 2: slug o. You know, like I said, you can't blame Rogers.
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  Speaker 2: He's playing the pressure and he's playing the situation right.
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  Speaker 2: You know you can't. He doesn't want to give up
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  Speaker 2: the slant route for an easy first tiwn, He's going
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  Speaker 2: to jump the slant. It's slug o and the timing
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  Speaker 2: of the throw and Hurts knows this. He's got a
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  Speaker 2: free rusher front side, a free hitter and it's Harrison Smith,
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  Speaker 2: so he knows he's got to release the ball and
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  Speaker 2: you can just lay it out there this. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the throw happens to be well thrown. But this is
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  Speaker 2: the kind of throw that doesn't have to be truly
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  Speaker 2: precision the way you think of let's say the seventy
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  Speaker 2: nine yard touchdown to Smith, right, all you have to
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  Speaker 2: do is give give a J. Brown a chance here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he says, just give a chance to
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  Speaker 3: the football.
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  Speaker 1: The fact, and I think throwing off the back foot
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  Speaker 1: he may have wanted to put maybe a yard or
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  Speaker 1: two more on this system, not make it as close
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  Speaker 1: as it wound up being, because you know, Rogers got
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: four three speed and it want to be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit closer. But he was throwing off his back from.
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  Speaker 3: Turn his spot. Yeah he did that.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, the number one thing on that play is you
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  Speaker 2: just want to complete the ball.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, which he did, which he did bye. But but
• 33:12
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  Speaker 1: and there were very a lot of plays that we
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: just went where it was really close there.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: So right now, this was a game where he clearly
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: had some really strong moments in the pocket, but it
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: was a game overall where there was a lot of pressure.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: There were significant voids in coverage. Hurts was a react
• 33:32
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• 33:34
  Speaker 2: some really good things and other times made some really
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: strong precision throats from the pocket. So it was kind
• 33:39
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• 33:41
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens going forward. Hopefully this is
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: the beginning of Hey Hurts getting his confidence back, feeling
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: like Hey, I can drop back and throw the ball.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I'd like to see if they continue putting him under center.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Like I said, they were nineteen snaps under center. We'll
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: see if that continues. I think to me, again, I'm
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: not in their meeting rooms, you know, but I think
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: that's a positive. I think they should be doing more
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: of that, all right.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: I think, oh, God, Gods, want to ask Greg this.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Anything in the first half. I think it was sort
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: of a mundane first half, guessing wise.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm sure people at the end of the
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: first half probably thought, oh, here we go again.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Exactly, Yeah, anything stand out.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Look, look the plays that Hurts made, and we're just
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: being honest here. It Hurts capable of those special outside
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: of structure plays. Absolutely, He's done that his whole career.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: But anybody who knows football knows that you can't go
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: into a counting on those plays happening. So they did
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: in this game, and because Hurts is capable of it,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: you go, wow, those are really good plays, and they are.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: You know, we say the same thing when Mahomes makes someone,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Alan makes someone, Lamar makes them. We say those are
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: great plays by great quarterbacks. So you've got to say
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: the same thing when Jalen Hurts makes them. My only
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: point would be no coach goes into a game saying, hey,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: if he doesn't run around and make plays, then we
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: can't win. No coach says that this.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Isn't right last week, this is the NBA, like they're
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: not telling you, all right, take on three guys. See
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: if you can break him down right now? You got
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: to throw from the pockets sometimes. But what was that story?
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Real quick? That might have been Dave Canalis that talked
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: about Russell.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Wall I was talking about Russell Wilson when I met
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: him at Combine when he was the wide receiver coach
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: for Seattle, and actually Andy Vannoyd introduced me to him,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: and I said to Dave, I just meant him. I said, hey,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: can I see a question we just met? You know,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I'd love to know. If you don't want to answer it,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I understand, but you know, I said, what do you
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: how do you deal with Russell Wilson when he passes
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: up a clean throw and then runs around and makes it,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: you know, a really good play. You know? Do you say, hey,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: you know we should have you know, you should have
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: thrown the ball here? He goes, No, we tell him,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: great play, Russell. I think with quarterbacks that do that,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: you maybe once in a while you say, hey, we
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: got the look. We want to just next time think
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: about throwing it. Maybe you say that, but I think
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: with those quarterbacks that are capable of that, more often
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: than that you probably say, hey, good play, because you
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: don't want to take away their.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Instincts, right Stingers. John D.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Flipball calls it, yes, stinger, and there are certainly a
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: lot of stingers there in the second half from Hurts
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: to his receivers, and we'll see if any of that
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: can carry over.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: When they play the Giants next week.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: That is a wrap on the Eagles offensive tape against
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: the Vikings in their win. In the next episode, we
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: will get through the Eagles defense against the Vikings. So
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: for Greg Cosell and Adam Kaplan, I'm Jeff Boscher. You've
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