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The Doug Pederson Show | Pederson on What Is Going Wrong & Plays That Must Be Made · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Doug Peterson Show, brought to you by
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  Speaker 1: Fresh from Florida. JP Shadwick and former Jaguar Jeff Logoman
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  Speaker 1: discuss the latest Jaguars news with the head Coach. The
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  Speaker 1: Doug Peterson Show starts right now.
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  Speaker 2: And welcome into the Hondai Studios inside the Middle of
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  Speaker 2: Electric Center for the Doug Peterson Show on the Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: Radio Network, presented by the University of Florida. Brian Sexton
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  Speaker 2: in with Jeff Logoman this weekend. The head coach joins us, Now, hey, coach,
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  Speaker 2: how are you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing well, doing well.
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  Speaker 4: How about you guys. Merry Christmas do you guys? And
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  Speaker 4: to you?
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  Speaker 2: And I heard you say that your wife has your
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  Speaker 2: birthday on Christmas Eve?
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  Speaker 4: So did you the twenty fourth? Yes?
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  Speaker 3: I did you win Christmas Eve? I won Christmas Eve
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  Speaker 3: and I won Christmas Morning. So I'm two for two
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  Speaker 3: this year.
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  Speaker 4: Well, at least you get to shop kind of for
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  Speaker 4: two things which you kind of knock it out. You
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  Speaker 4: get anything good for Christmas?
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  Speaker 3: Me personally, you know, I bought myself a Tika t
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  Speaker 3: I Kka two forty three rifle by myself, a right
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  Speaker 3: good for you and then my strength conditioning staff brought
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  Speaker 3: me the two forty three the shells to go to
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  Speaker 3: go with it, So I thought that was a pretty good,
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  Speaker 3: pretty good win win.
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  Speaker 4: You know. The round gifts are the ones you buy
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  Speaker 4: for yourself. They are you can't screw them up. Get
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  Speaker 4: exactly what you want.
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  Speaker 3: And I will say, the coaching staff bought me an
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  Speaker 3: e bike this year, then I'm gonna use on the farm.
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  Speaker 4: Is that the playment is that allowable? It is? It's
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  Speaker 4: kind of cheap. No it's not. I mean it's get
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  Speaker 4: a golf cart, dug and then ride a bike.
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  Speaker 3: Well yeah, I know, but these are you can also ride.
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  Speaker 4: The golf carts are better for for hunting on the
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  Speaker 4: farm because you can I'm excited. You can carry stuff
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  Speaker 4: in the back, that's true. Will you use the two
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  Speaker 4: forty three for duck hunting? No, it'll be for white,
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  Speaker 4: not the left. If you have shells so well, not.
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  Speaker 3: Shotgun shells either, are just regular rifle shells, rifle cartridges.
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  Speaker 4: Congratulations, I love gifts for myself. I do too.
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  Speaker 3: They're the best.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's go back to last week a little
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  Speaker 4: bit game in Vegas, which was first of all great
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  Speaker 4: experience because it's a new stadium, have never been there before,
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  Speaker 4: and highly impressed with the environment in the setup that
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  Speaker 4: they have. But a disappointing loss, nonetheless, And I think
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  Speaker 4: one of the themes that's kind of stayed throughout your
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  Speaker 4: football team, especially recently, is you guys weren't able to
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  Speaker 4: generate any momentum with the takeaway category as a defense.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's been hard. That's been hard. Offensively, we're kind
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  Speaker 3: of giving it away. You know, we had a couple
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  Speaker 3: of giveaways last week, and then defensively, we're not getting
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  Speaker 3: the ball, so we're making it extremely hard on ourselves.
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  Speaker 3: And the offense is having to go the long way,
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  Speaker 3: you know, to score points, and then the defense is
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  Speaker 3: having to stay on the field a little bit too
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  Speaker 3: long in these football games. Disappointing loss. We had opportunities
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  Speaker 3: in that game. You know, you go at fourteen thirteen
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  Speaker 3: and you need you need that one stop and we
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  Speaker 3: actually had the quarterback wrapped up and we let him
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  Speaker 3: out of our grasp and then he makes a tremendous play, right,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, credit them for making that play, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: but those are those are the things, those are the
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  Speaker 3: plays right there that that we need to make in
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  Speaker 3: order to mature and move forward as a team. Those
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  Speaker 3: plays have to be made in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 3: And then and then offensively, you know, our ability to
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  Speaker 3: run the football. We have to run the football, and
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  Speaker 3: we haven't had the success that we would have you know,
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  Speaker 3: liked last week in that game.
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  Speaker 4: And to kind of go to that offense giving that
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  Speaker 4: ball away a little bit, you know, to fumbles in
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  Speaker 4: the game that didn't lead to any points by the Raiders,
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  Speaker 4: but it essentially took points off the board for you guys.
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  Speaker 4: And definitely the last one with the strange fumble in
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  Speaker 4: field goal position. Possibly there maybe the game is handled
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  Speaker 4: differently at the end of the ball game if it's
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  Speaker 4: a you know, field goal game instead of a touchdown game.
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  Speaker 4: So that's not where you want to be either, not
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  Speaker 4: at all.
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  Speaker 3: And and but seeing those are the those are the
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  Speaker 3: those are the learning lessons that even though we're learning
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  Speaker 3: this the hard way as a football team, that everything
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  Speaker 3: you know, I go in there and talk everything everything, guys,
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  Speaker 3: everything matters, right, every everything we do matters. The way
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  Speaker 3: we practice, the way we travel, the way we the
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  Speaker 3: way we play, the situations in practice that I put
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  Speaker 3: you in everything we do matter so we can win
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  Speaker 3: a game on Sunday and then so we have to
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  Speaker 3: be aware when we're in those situations. Coaches and players,
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  Speaker 3: we coach it a certain way and then we have
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  Speaker 3: to play it a certain way.
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  Speaker 4: Where we got to understand.
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  Speaker 3: That it's a closed ball game and points. And I
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  Speaker 3: knew going into that football game that the field goals
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna be big. Right field goals we're going to
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  Speaker 3: be big because I think it would give us an
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  Speaker 3: edge over them if we could just take care of
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  Speaker 3: the football drive, kick field goals at the end of
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  Speaker 3: those drives and then eventually get ourselves into the end zone.
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  Speaker 3: I felt like we could, we could win the game
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  Speaker 3: twenty to fourteen, twenty to seventeen, twenty to ten, maybe
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  Speaker 3: something like that last week. But when when when we
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  Speaker 3: turn the ball over, I mean, then it sets it
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  Speaker 3: back and then and we're not creating those takeaways on defense.
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  Speaker 3: It just makes it so much harder. And as a team,
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  Speaker 3: we need to understand that, you know, making those plays
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  Speaker 3: goes a long way to helping us, you know, when
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  Speaker 3: when our fair share of these games.
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  Speaker 2: Something that people have been talking about this week is
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  Speaker 2: Mason Smith who showed up. We've been asking about him
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  Speaker 2: all year. What did you see from him? And what
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  Speaker 2: does he mean for your outside pass rushers when you've
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  Speaker 2: got some push up the middle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's playing, he's playing well. He's playing really really good.
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  Speaker 3: I mean he's he's learned from early in the season.
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  Speaker 3: He's getting more reps obviously, so he's learning how to
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  Speaker 3: play that position inside. He's he's pushing the pocket. He
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  Speaker 3: had probably again a good football game. I'd love to
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  Speaker 3: have him make that play on the quarterback on aiden there,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and then we're off the field and all
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  Speaker 3: of that. But if he can continue to push the
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  Speaker 3: pocket and eat up a couple of uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: would be pass blockers, it just frees up your edge
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  Speaker 3: guys a little bit more to get after the passer
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  Speaker 3: or could free up you know, Eric Armstead on the
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  Speaker 3: inside on the other side type thing that could that
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  Speaker 3: could also affect your passer. So he continues to play
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  Speaker 3: and play well, I think good things will happen on
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  Speaker 3: the edge.
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  Speaker 4: One other guy I thought that played well, Dewey Winger
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  Speaker 4: I thought played well, and Savage ended up leaving the game.
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  Speaker 4: Was in the concussion protocol, How do you handle that
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  Speaker 4: this week with a guy that played well and a
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  Speaker 4: guy that's in the concussion protocol, is he going to
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  Speaker 4: make it out? And I know it's it's not Friday yet,
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  Speaker 4: which typically kind of is your date to determine what
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna do, but kind of what's your feel for that?
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  Speaker 3: You know, My feel right now is that my gut
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  Speaker 3: tells me that sav probably won't make this game just
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  Speaker 3: because of this. He's still symptomatic and still in that protocol,
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  Speaker 3: and and don't want to rush that thing whatsoever. I
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  Speaker 3: want to make sure you know that that time takes
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  Speaker 3: its you know, takes its uh or runs its course
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  Speaker 3: with these things. So we don't want to rush that.
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  Speaker 3: So if that's the case.
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  Speaker 4: That's all right. Dewey.
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  Speaker 3: Dewey's very capable, right. My only I was sharing this
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  Speaker 3: with the media. My only regret probably this year is
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  Speaker 3: that Dowey got hurt so early in training camp. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, we went into the season thinking sav was
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  Speaker 3: going to be the nickel, Dewey could potentially be a safety.
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  Speaker 3: Jarian was gonna work in at nickel maybe some nickel corner,
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  Speaker 3: you know, But now now things got the debt got shuffled, right,
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  Speaker 3: and and so now do he's in a position to
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  Speaker 3: help us. He's he's healthy, he feels really good. He
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  Speaker 3: had a great game last week. So I would anticipate,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Doey playing playing a lot in this football game.
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  Speaker 2: So you get the Titans now, second time of the month.
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  Speaker 2: Is that an advantage for you, Well, it'd.
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  Speaker 3: Be an advantage for them too, you know, But the
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  Speaker 3: fact that it's still fresh on our minds. It's only
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  Speaker 3: four weeks ago that we played them. It was a
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  Speaker 3: close football game. It was a physical football game. And again,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you know, we we look at that game
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  Speaker 3: and go, hey, okay, we we battled for four quarters, right,
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  Speaker 3: we we finished that football game, and and defense really
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  Speaker 3: played well that day, and and we're gonna need that
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  Speaker 3: same type of performance, you know. Mason Rudolph Now I
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  Speaker 3: mean different quarterback, you know, but they're still running it
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  Speaker 3: through the running game kind of through you know, a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of that quick passing Calvin Ridley running through
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  Speaker 3: the middle of the field, some deep deep throws to Calvin.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, it's a little bit different, but at
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  Speaker 3: the same time, you know, I think personally, everything's still
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  Speaker 3: going to go through this defensive line. To me, it's
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  Speaker 3: one of the better d lines in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 3: And Jeffrey Simmons anchors that he's trying to He's a
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  Speaker 3: tremendous player, and Arden's playing well and Sweats playing well.
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  Speaker 3: So familiar to us, familiar to them, should be a
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  Speaker 3: good football game.
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  Speaker 4: The defensive line good in Tennessee. But they weren't so
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  Speaker 4: good last week. You know, they gave up three hundred
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  Speaker 4: and thirty five yards rushing to the Colts. What did
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  Speaker 4: you see in that game that maybe can give you
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of an advantage this week.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you listen to what their coach
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  Speaker 3: said this week, I mean, you know, we were out
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  Speaker 3: of gaps, right, we missed some tackles and different things
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  Speaker 3: like that. Well, those are things that are going to
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  Speaker 3: correct this week. So they're not going to be out
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  Speaker 3: of gaps anymore. So now we're going to have to
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  Speaker 3: make sure that we're double teaming. You know, if we
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  Speaker 3: can get four hands on Jeffrey Simmons, we've got to
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  Speaker 3: put four hands on him if we can get up.
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  Speaker 3: It's much like the New York Jets sort of game
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  Speaker 3: plan in a way, with the type of front that
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  Speaker 3: they have and and you know, listen, we've got to
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  Speaker 3: be able to cover them up. We've we've got to
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  Speaker 3: be we have to be physical upfront. It goes without saying.
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  Speaker 3: And then and then our backs have got to hit
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  Speaker 3: that hole. We've got to have tight ends and receivers,
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  Speaker 3: blocking linebackers and safeties and and and that's what you
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  Speaker 3: saw against uh, you know Indianapolis and Tennessee. And of
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  Speaker 3: course you know Jonathan Day. He's a good running back.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty it's pretty ad running back. But when he
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  Speaker 3: gets some he you know, gets the ball in space,
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  Speaker 3: he can go. So I don't expect that same defense.
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  Speaker 3: I expect a better performance obviously from them, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure they feel the same way.
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  Speaker 4: Last time you faced Tennessee, Anton Harrison had his sickness
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  Speaker 4: and didn't play in that game, so Cole Van Landon
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  Speaker 4: started at right tackle. This week, Cole Van land is
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  Speaker 4: gonna have to start at left tackle because Walker Little's
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  Speaker 4: injury to his ankle. I think he's played pretty well
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  Speaker 4: when given the opportunity. You got to feel pretty good,
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  Speaker 4: especially about the health of your quarterback and how good
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  Speaker 4: and protection he is. Now he's not as big as
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  Speaker 4: Walker and doesn't move the guys as well, but in
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  Speaker 4: past protection, I'm sure you got complete confidence in him
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  Speaker 4: one percent.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's one of the brighter spots I think
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  Speaker 3: with the offensive line right now is the fact that
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  Speaker 3: we've been able to pass protect and keep our quarterbacks
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  Speaker 3: clean and keep Matt clean the last couple of weeks
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  Speaker 3: and he's had really good pockets to throw from, and
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  Speaker 3: Cole's been a big part of that. And now he
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  Speaker 3: gets to go over to the left side, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: Arden plays over there a little bit. You know in
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  Speaker 3: base defense, he may come over and play the open
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  Speaker 3: side a little bit more in sub defense. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: Cole's been one of those bright spots too. He came
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  Speaker 3: out of training camp. We were excited about him where
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  Speaker 3: he was. You know, he sat really as the fourth
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  Speaker 3: tackle back then, you know, behind Cam and Tawn and Walker,
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  Speaker 3: and then it was Cole. And now Cole's elevated to
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  Speaker 3: a starting position and he's played well when he's been
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  Speaker 3: in there, So I'm excited for him. He's a valuable
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  Speaker 3: chess piece for us in that offensive line.
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  Speaker 4: Along the lines of running the football. With Jonathan Taylor
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  Speaker 4: being a great back, you got to go back in Bigsby.
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  Speaker 4: But the fumble thing is popping up two games in
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  Speaker 4: a row. You know, I looked at the numbers. I
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  Speaker 4: want to say, he's lost a fumble like every thirty carry.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's not a good number to be attached.
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  Speaker 4: Where's your level of confidence with him?
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  Speaker 3: It is still very confident, very high.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: We we make make sure that he understands why he's
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  Speaker 3: fumbling the football and how he can how he can
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  Speaker 3: correct it, and how he holds the ball, and and
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  Speaker 3: you know, he just has to be more aware when
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  Speaker 3: he's in traffic. You know, defenders more than likely are
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  Speaker 3: going to punch than they are to tackle. And and
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  Speaker 3: that's what happened last week. It was kind of a
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  Speaker 3: kind of a you know, an easy punch on unexposed football.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, he needs to he he knows that
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  Speaker 3: he's aware of that. We show him that on tape.
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  Speaker 3: He'll he'll work on it this week in practice. But
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  Speaker 3: our our level of confidence is still really high.
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  Speaker 4: In tank.
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  Speaker 2: We're ten minutes into our conversation. We having mentioned Brian
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  Speaker 2: Thomas Junior, who has obviously been the story.
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  Speaker 4: All season long.
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  Speaker 2: He just continues to stack at the end of the
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  Speaker 2: season here, that is that what you expect from not
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  Speaker 2: his production level, but a rookie to get stronger as
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  Speaker 2: the season goes along, because it certainly appears that he is.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Not I'm not surprised because I've seen this guy work
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  Speaker 3: all season. I think I think that that it's probably
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  Speaker 3: a little twofold, right. I mean the fact that the
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  Speaker 3: injury situation to our receiver room. You're missing Christian, you're
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  Speaker 3: missing Gabe obviously now BT, but you're also missing Evans.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, as the season progressed, we were still
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  Speaker 3: finding ways to get BT the football. But now that
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  Speaker 3: those three guys are missing, BT's getting the football.
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  Speaker 4: It's one.
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  Speaker 3: We got to find ways to get him, get him
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  Speaker 3: the ball now. So we're loading his plate up more
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  Speaker 3: and more and and and he he wants it. He
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  Speaker 3: wants to experiment with different routes, do do different things,
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  Speaker 3: and move him around the formation, bring him out of
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  Speaker 3: the backfield, motion him across the formation. Whatever we can
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  Speaker 3: do to create some space for him and let him
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  Speaker 3: just utilize his speed. We've got to do that right
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  Speaker 3: and give ourselves an opportunity. And and he continues to
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  Speaker 3: embrace that role. We're excited. I'm excited for for where
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  Speaker 3: he is as a rookie, and I still think there's
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  Speaker 3: there's more and better out there for as the years
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  Speaker 3: go on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, boy, if you go back to last week, there
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  Speaker 4: was more there on the plate, so to speak. You know,
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  Speaker 4: he had the double move early in the game that
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  Speaker 4: Matt couldn't get him on, and then also the drop
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  Speaker 4: which had a holding call, which would have come back anyway,
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  Speaker 4: but he probably could have had over two hundred yards
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  Speaker 4: receiving in that ball game. What impresses me the most
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  Speaker 4: about him is his consistency and his route running. Have
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  Speaker 4: you ever seen a rookie kind of just grab that
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  Speaker 4: experience and have that kind of veteran knowledge of running
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  Speaker 4: routes like him? You know what, He's the first.
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  Speaker 3: And we've drafted some guys in Philly when I was there,
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  Speaker 3: some some young receivers in the draft and in high
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  Speaker 3: draft picks too, but none of them, none of them
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  Speaker 3: can do what Brian can do.
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  Speaker 4: And and and.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's a credit to Brian because you watch him
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  Speaker 3: in practice and how he runs routes, and he runs
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  Speaker 3: him full speed, and he gets his work in during
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  Speaker 3: the week and he continues to improve. He's probably running
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  Speaker 3: faster and harder now.
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  Speaker 4: At the end of the season with really no.
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  Speaker 3: Thing to play for than he did in Week one,
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  Speaker 3: you know, And that just goes to show you the
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  Speaker 3: type of person, the character that he is and as
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  Speaker 3: a person, and how hard he works and how bad
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  Speaker 3: he wants to be a great receiver in this league.
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  Speaker 4: How important has Chad Hall been in that process, because
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  Speaker 4: you know, I watch Parker Washington on film also, and
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  Speaker 4: I see a guy that also runs really good routes
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  Speaker 4: and seems to have really more abilities as an outside
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  Speaker 4: wide receiver than the pigeonhole that you might put him
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  Speaker 4: in as a slot receiver.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Chad's done a great job working with
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  Speaker 3: both of those guys. You know, Parker's another one that's
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  Speaker 3: Parker's a little more twitchy probably you know, then the
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  Speaker 3: BT's got the straight line speed where Parker's got a
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  Speaker 3: little more shiftiness to him low to the ground. But
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  Speaker 3: Parker's another one that's a bright spot offensively, and finding
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: ways to get him the football is also something that
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: we focus on as an offensive staff. And but but Chad,
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: You're right, Chad has done a great job coaching those guys,
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: his drill work, his teaching, his fundamentals, and there's a
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: reason why those two guys have had the type of
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: years they've had.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Can you just put it in perspective, though, how hard
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: it is to find that alpha player. I mean at
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: every position, but at wide receiver in particularly. The Jaguars
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: have been trying to find the dominant number one alpha
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: since Jimmy Smith retired after the two thousand and five season.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: In fact, I stood next to Jimmy at that Colts
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: game when they did the Ring of Honor for Tom
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: and he talked about how good this kid was, and
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: it's just they're hard to find. You drafted him in Philly,
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: they've drafted him here. When you get them their gold.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: They are they are. And we feel like we found one,
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: you know here in Jacksonville, and we've got to continue
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: to you know, to to build around that offensively. Our
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: quarterbacks got to continue to trust and just keep working
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: with him so they're on the same page. And it's
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: just got to be, you know, with those two guys,
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: with Trevor and Bet, it's got to be just night
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: and day. It's got to I could I could throw
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: blindfold and I know where BT is gonna be. That's
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: that's the type of trust and and you know, a
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: level of execution that those two have got to have.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: And I feel like BT's that type of alpha in
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: that room and on this football team that we need.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: How long will that take? How much time on task
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: between a quarterback and receiver is there for the blindfold
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: to be on and nowhere to go?
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: I still think it's a work in progress. I think
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: it's going to take another offseason, probably a training camp
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: to get to that point because now obviously Trevor's missing
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: some time here at the end of the season. With
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: the success that BT is having, so now you put
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: those two together, it can be a really good combination
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: in this league for a long time.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: All Right, last question from me. You're facing a team
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: in Tennessee that's given the ball up more than anybody
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: in the National Football League as an offense giveaways, and
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: you guys have gotten not gotten one. I think it's
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: been Minnesota, It's been quite a few weeks. How important
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: is that for this ball game?
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: It's huge, It's huge. We've got to be able to
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: create some takeaways. If we can at least get two,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: possibly three takeaways in this game. You know nothing to guarantee, obviously,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: but it just gives your offense chance.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Right, It.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Gives you a shorter field and you don't have to
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: make it hard all the time. And so if we
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: can do that this weekend, you know, give yourself an
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: opportunity to score and play good defense, play good special teams.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Gives you a chance to win final one.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: For me, since their very first game here in nineteen
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: ninety five, the Jaguars have always been behind this franchise,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: the Oilers and the Titans. You're four and one against them,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: which is the best Well, okay, I'll throw that one
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: out there for you.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: But the division.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: You can still finish four and two in the division.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: And I know the season isn't going to end the
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: way that any of us thought it could or should,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: but you can have a winning record in the division.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: And to me, that's important because these are the guys
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: you play every single year, and the guys in the
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: locker room need to know that these are the rivalry
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: games and the important games. Am I off base? Is
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: there something to having a winning record in the division?
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Do you see it as the head coach? And what
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: does it mean to your players coming.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Back now, you're one hundred percent right. It's important one
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: regardless of division games or not, to finish strong, finish
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: your season the right way, right finish Hopefully you finish
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: with two wins. You go into the off season feeling
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: good about that. But on top of that, it's Tennessee
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: and Indie, two teams that are in our division AFC South.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: We're trying to win the AFC South every year and
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: to finish four and two, that gives you, you know,
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: that gives you that that glimmer of hope going into
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: the off season. The hey all, we got to do guys,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: We got to just clean up the mistakes, clean up
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: the airs that we're making your four and two in
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: the division, and you got a chance every year to
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: be playing in the postseason at least win the AFC
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: South and play play for a playoff spot. So you're
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: right on base with that. The guys need to understand
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: that that's what you're playing for, along with pride and
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: playing and finishing well. Well.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Best of luck to get to three and two to
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: set that up and and then we'll wish you next
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: to we'll see it after New Year's So.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Happy New Year's that's right, Happy New Years. That's right,
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Head coach Doug Peterson. Thanks for joining us.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Thank you, and we'll be back after this on the
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Doug Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: And welcome back to Doug Peterson Show.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Brian Sexton along with Jeff Loghiman here on a Thursday
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: after Christmas. H you asked Doug about his Christmas? How
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: about your Christmas?
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: How was it? Oh? Great? Yeah? Yeah, the kids are
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: the beneficiaries of most of the gifts your logs. Yes, yeah,
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: we're willing to throw it out there. But really, most
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: importantly the food, the wine was always always good. You know,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: you know me and Brian, we I do know you
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: which want asking. I was hoping for some more detail,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: but it appears it was. It was great. We uh,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: we had an outstanding Christmas kind of brunch. Yeah, was
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: some of our neighbors, Rip and Roseanne. It was outstanding.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Glad to hear it. Tara was like a demon in
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: the kitchen as she always is. Congratulations, Yeah, it was great.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: All right, So let's get back to football.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: We touched on Cole van Landon Cole started the game
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: three weeks ago against the Titans did right tackle. Now
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: he comes in at left tackle.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: On short notice. By the way, Yeah that the one
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: in Tennessee. Correct. He found out maybe Saturday night, Yeah,
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: a couple now, I don't I don't think it was
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: out in Saturda Sunday morning he found out.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Did you know he was capable of this? I mean
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: we heard about him and being the highest graded player
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: in PFF for whatever that means, in the preseason right
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: and now here he is starting right tackle, left tackle
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: and playing pretty well.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: I give him credit. You know, when they initially traded
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: for him, I think their vision for him was going
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: to be a guard, and it didn't work out very well.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: You know, to play guard, you have to have a
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: level of power to handle because you know, look, it's
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: kind of like battling things in a phone booth. You know,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: it's short areas, you're dealing with stronger guys. And he
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: didn't handle that very well. And he literally became an
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: afterthought for this football team. When I say an afterthought,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: he became a number. You know, let let's get through
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: camp and we just you know, moved him to tackle.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Right or whatever it was, and all of a sudden
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: he excelled. Well that was the position that he played
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: in college, I guess, which he was a left tackle.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: And he's very athletic. He's not super strong, He's not
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: moving guys off the ball in the run game a lot.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: But if you can have a backup tackle in this
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: league that you know is going to make sure that
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: your quarterback doesn't get one of these look out, you're okay.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: And that's what he is. He's an excellent pass protector
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: for a backup. And the crazy thing is is, you know,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: he was essentially a third team guy, you know, at
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: the beginning of season, and then with the trade of
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Cam Robinson to the Minnesota Vikings and then the ascension
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: of Walker Little to the starting position, now he's in
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: a position to be that guy and he's done a
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: great job.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: So with Walker done for the year, he's now your
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: third tackle.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Right, Yes, I'm sorry, no, no closer, start koser, Star,
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: who's your third tackle? Well, that's probably going to fall
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: on the rookie which hasn't been hasn't been active much,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: you know, And to be honest, watching him in the preseason,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: I thought he wasn't ready, and this would be kind
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: of a red shirt year because you know, he's a
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: fourth round pick. You're not going to take a fourth
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: round pick tackle unless he looks I mean, just terrible
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: and cast him off. But you know, this year essentially
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: because you can't hide him on the practice squad, you
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: got to keep him on the active roster for a
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: fourth round pick. But I don't know if he's ready
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: for this, But we're going to find out if he
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: has to be pressed into action, they really don't have.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: And here's the other thing. Will he be the first
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: option or would he be kind of an emergency break
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: last type of player, because you know, here's the other
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: part is that Blake Hansk can play tackle too. He
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: did in Cleveland last year.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know, is there anything you can't
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: do with Cole van landon it left tackle? Does it
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: severely restrict you in any way what you'd like to do?
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Was a great thing about Walker Little, And this was
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: the part that I really was impressed with when watching
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Walker Little is his finish in the run game. His
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: ability to move people was really good. It's kind of
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: like what Cam was early on the last couple of years,
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: got kind of falling off the finished part of that.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: But Walker little has done been doing a great job
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: of the finishing things. Hopefully he's okay. The biggest concern
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: with Walker is is you know, okay, the durability thing.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: You know, this is miss game again, you know so.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: But for col Van Landon, look, he's not gonna get
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: a ton of movement in the run game. But the
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: most important thing is to not get somebody killed. He's
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: got Arden Key this week, and we know Arden and
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: then he's okay. I mean, he's the guy that you
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: worry about the most is Harold Landry. Harold Lander's a
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: good football player, very good pass rusher, and they both
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: kind of move around a little bit. So Harold Landry,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: I think, is the one you'd be most concerned about.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: And then if they move Jeffrey Simmons outside, which you know,
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: remember Chris Jones kind of kicking outside. Jeffrey Simmons can
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: do that.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I love Jeffery Simmons. I think he's a terrific football.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: He's really good football player, really good football player.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: All Right, we're due for a break. We will take
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: it now and return of the Doug Peterson Show. Here
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: on the Thursday night after Christmas, and you're listening on
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Jaguars Radio.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Man, it's continuing for you on the Jaguars Radio Network,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: which is presented by the University of Florida, the number
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: one university in US News and World Reports, number one
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: state for education. Brian Sexton along with Jeff Logoman, let's
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: talk a little BTJ. I mean, listen, we could just
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: turn on the mics and talk about him for the
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: entire hour and nobody would get tired of listening.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Again, No, I didn't. I what I love is I
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: love watching him on film just because he is. Like
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: talking with Doug. It's not very often that you see
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: a young player that has developed so extensively across the
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: board as a route runner and speed is exceptional. I mean,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: that's you know, that's God given. Yeah, you can't work
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: on speed, but the route running stuff. The truly great
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: players have have good speed, but have the ability to
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: change speeds to make it appear as great speed. He
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: has great speed, period, but he's learning how to do
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: the little things to make his great speed. Even greater
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: rookies generally hit the rookie wall right.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, the college season ends and then they start training,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: and then they're drafted, and then they go right into
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: training camp, and it just it seems to all run together.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: So you don't expect a rookie to be playing better
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: at the end of the year, and yet he seems
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: to be getting stronger.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Week to week.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: And Chad Hall I talked to him after practice today,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars receivers coach, told me the exact same thing.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: He just keeps getting stronger. He's like Superman. Yeah, it's
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: impressive because I remember my rookie year and once you
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: got into you know, week twelve, I was I was gassed.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: And Brian has really thrived. And when you watch the
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: energy in which he runs his rout el, I mean,
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: he's just does a great job with it, and he
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: wants the ball. He wants the ball, and I think that,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: you know, part of the energy that he has also
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: is related to he's the man now and now he's
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: experiencing something that I don't think he's even experienced at LSU,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: because look at LSU, you were one of the guys,
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, one of the three great receivers on the
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: elite neighbor's got a lot of attention. He was considered
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: the man, the guy. Well, Brian is now the man,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: and I think he's enjoying. I think he's relishing the
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: opportunity to be the man and then to be a
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: difference maker. You know, he was an ultimate competitor. Yeah,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: he's an ultimate competitor. Well, I told you what Jimmy
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Smith told me. We were standing on the field for
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: the Colts game. There at halftime, we're about to do
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: the induction ceremony for Tommy, the pride of the Jaguars,
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: and Jimmy said, and a paraphrasing, he might be as
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: good as me. Which listen for Jimmy Smith to say that.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: He says a lot because Jimmy was ultimately, i mean,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: just completely confident in his greatness.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Well, and Jimmy's not one roll around any kind of
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: credit that is equal to his. Yeah, it is, Jimmy.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Jimmy was great and rightfully so. And I'll give you
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: there's another kind of funny story. Or we have our
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: broadcast meetings every week. Yeah, and I said that Brian
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Thomas Junior, I think is the best deep ball receiver
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: that the Jaguars have had since Jimmy Smith. I said
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: that at the very beginning of season, before Brian really
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: even played it, right, and I got kind of laughed
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: at imagine Biselli had something to say about that, and
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: that was where a lot of the laughter came from
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: and criticism of the comment.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: But what's interesting is is that he's doing it without
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: anyone else helping him space the field, right. I mean,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: if you think about modern passing offenses, they're trying to
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: space the field kind of like a basketball corn, right.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: And when you had Christian Kirk for just a brief
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: moment and Gabe Davis early in the year, you know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: you could think about creating some places and Evan Ingram
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: for him to be able to go. I mean, there's
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: no spacing on the floor. Everyone knows the ball's going
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: to him.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Well, and I'm surprised that defenses are playing him the
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: way they are. I mean, you know he's going to
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: get the ball. The Raiders screwed a big time, and
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: the way that some teams are playing him, you're just
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: you look at it and you scratch your head and
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: you going, what are you thinking? You know they're going
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: to get the ball to seven. It's great for the Jaguars.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing that
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: part of it. It's great to watch. But it's still
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: kind of amazing to me that some coordinators are approaching
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars and not treating Brian Thomas Junior like a
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: surefired star, which is what he is.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: He is, and he will see completely different defenses next year,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: will he not? Oh?
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, The book on him just continues to grow. And
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: could we see for the very first time a defense
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: that gives him the attention that he deserves this week?
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: You know, at times people have given the attention but
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: not play in and play out. This may be the game.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: We will take a break in return more with Jeff
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Logiman in here on the Doug Peterson Show on the
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Jaguars Radio Network.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now now.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Edward, back, Brian and Jeff with you from the Hundai
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: studios in the Miller Electric Center. And this reminded that
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• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I am two in the weekly release just The amount
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: of ink that Brian Thomas Junior has been able to
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: amass is as impressive as anything a lot of anecdote stories.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I see right here that he needs forty four yards
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: to move into the top ten among rookie receivers in
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: NFL history in receiving yards.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, which is pretty cool. You know, he's got all
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars records now you know, receptions, yards, touchdowns, and
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: what's next from a franchise standpoint for him, I think
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: it's a big deal to get to double digit touchdown,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: So the next touchdown at ten is a big deal. Yeah,
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: he leads all the NFL rookies and receiving yards. If
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: as long as this pace continues, I think he'll end
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: the season leading the league rookies in receiving yards. But
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: the list that you're referring to is pretty cool, and
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: the list of the names that are on that list
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: are fun to kind of look at. Billy Brooks, a
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: good friend of mine for the Colts right back in
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: nineteen eighty six, is the tenth receiver on that list,
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: and him yardage total total is eleven thirty one, so
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: forty four yards to pass Billy for Brian to move
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  Speaker 4: into tenth place on the all time rookie receiving yards list.
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  Speaker 4: How far could he go?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he twittered and twenty six yards to pass Randy Moss,
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  Speaker 2: which again which is amazing. Say the name Randy Moss,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: and we both remember that rookie season of his in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight.
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  Speaker 4: So I want to just roll some names off here.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: So Billy Brooks is at tenth, Terry Glenn of the
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Patriots is nine. Terrific receiver. I'm not going to throw
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: the yardage out there. Michael Thomas of the Saints is
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: at number eight. Michael Clayton of the what team was
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: he trying to think? Not sure fucks. I'm thinking of
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Clayton beck in the Clayton Couper days, and that's not
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: as Mark Clayton, get correct. Anyway, He's seventh. Odell Beckham
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  Speaker 4: is at six, Randy Moss is at five. That was
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  Speaker 4: nineteen ninety eight, which is going back to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the early years when passing wasn't as much, and Kwon
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Bolden at number four, JJ Justin Jefferson at three, Jamar
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Chase at two, Puka Nakua at number one.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, he was insational as a rookie,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: and that's an amazing amount of fourteen or eighty six.
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  Speaker 2: Michael Clayton played for Buccaneers. He was the LSU kid
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  Speaker 2: in two thousand and four.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, that's right, and amazing how many LSU
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: guys are on this list, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Michael Clayton.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Odell Beckham junior, Obi Jay and Brian Thomas junior. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver you by the way right now by an
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: old friend, Cortez Hankton. He's a wide receivers, a wide
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: receivers coach. I saw him at the draft and he
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: told me good player. Walking through the airport in Detroit
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: as I was racing to get a plane to come
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  Speaker 2: home on Friday, he said, this kid might be the
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: best of all of my receiver No, I says a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I made that statement after watching the film on him
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  Speaker 4: prior to the draft, because he had the explosive element
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  Speaker 4: he does, which that's what the NFL is all about,
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: the speed.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: And when we come back, we'll talk more about the NFL,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars and the Titans on Sunday at one o'clock
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: kickoff in the home finale. Here at EverBank Stadium. I'm
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: back with Jeff Logman on The Doug Peterson Show after
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: this on Jaguars Radio.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: All right, the Jaguars and Titans on Sunday here at
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: EverBank Stadium. The two teams are a combined one and
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: seven in the month of December, and that one win
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: is the Jaguars win over the Titans almost a month ago.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Two teams, neither of whom is playing good football. You
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: study tape like no one else. Is one team playing
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: any better than the other?
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Well, Tennessee's playing better right now?
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, I mean they scored twenty seven points for each
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: of the last two games.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: Well, fifty seven points, because they scored thirty last week, right,
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: and then twenty seven weeks with fifty seven points in
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: the last two games. And that's Rudolph check Wars are
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: struggling to find points. Well, it's combination of Levis and Rudolph.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: But Levis got benched in that game two weeks ago.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean that's Look, they're putting up more points.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: You know, I would say them, yeah, they're playing better,
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: But that franchise just gave up a big number on
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: the ground, huge and that's hard to ignore when you
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: give up that many yards rushing. The only team that
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: I can remember bouncing back from that was in Ianapolis
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: when when Mojo and Fred had that tremendous It was
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: two thousand and six. Seventy five was Super Bowl run
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: that year.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Tell I tell the story. I never go to visiting
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: coach's postgame. I just have enough to do cover the Jags.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: But I ran for the broadcast booth down to Tony
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Dunge because I wanted to hear what Tony Dungey, who
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I revere I think is a tremendous man and coach.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: I want to hear what he had to say. Yeah,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I thought he was just good. His call go collected
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: like Tony's. He's like, look, there's it's a couple of
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: little things. We'll fix it. And they did, and they
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: did it again, and they won the Super.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: Bowl, and they became really good against the run, really
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: really good against Bob Sanders was a big part of
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: that number, right, and Slim.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Farland played well late in the year there, so they
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: solidified things. Here's the interesting part about the number that
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: you just gave out. Doug Peterson has talked about this
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Tennessee defensive line as being one of the better groups
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: in football, and they did that.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: So why the fluke? Uh, it can happen. Okay, it
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: can happen. You get a couple guys out of a
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: gap here or there, long runs and you know that's
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: all it takes. And Tennessee's a little aggressive. They like
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: to send one extra guy and so if you're sending
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: one extra guy you can hit it, then you're you're
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: kind of depleting that second line of defense a little bit.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Do you think it's one of the best defensive lines
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: in football?
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: No? Okay, I think those two tackles are two of
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: the best. Simmonson Sweat, yes, but as a whole, right Harold,
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Landeryard and Key doesn't come together for you. Yeah, I mean, look,
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: it's it might be the best defensive line in the division.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: You could make that argument. Indy's not even in the
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: conversation with that. Jaguars aren't either. I mean, you've got
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: two edge players that are really good, right, but nobody
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: on the inside. Well, that's always been impressive and Houston's
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: got the edge players.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Give it to them.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say, yeah, Houston's edge players are really good. Though,
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: where do you think Jeffrey Simmons fits in the pantheon
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: of tackles great defensive tackles in the league right now?
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: He's top three? Okay, you're parking there on a bad team.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Chris Jones and Quinn Williams from the Jets. M Yeah,
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: probably those two guys, Yeah, probably those two guys are
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: the top. Okay, Chris Jones is the best. I think
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Quentin Williams is having an off year though, Yeah, yeah,
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: he's He's not great, okay, but he's a big guy
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: who moves to people generally, and I know he's hurt.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: But uh, what's is? Uh the guy with the Giants, Lawrence?
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: I believe it is. Yeah, the great player, actually, Lawrence,
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: great player. God, he's good, really good? All right. But
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: what I'm worried about this week is that Mac Jones
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: has had some problems in the last couple of weeks
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: keeping his eyes down the field, worried about the rush
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: if you don't have a running game to support him.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, it's second and nine,
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: third and seven plus, and all of a sudden, here
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: comes Tennessee sending that extra guy, and he's flat at Mac.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: You know, Max's eyes have been dropping, and then when
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: his eyes drop, his feet get a little bit off,
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden he doesn't have his
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: feet underneath of him. Mac Jones is not as accurate
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: as he can be. That's what I worry about.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: The Jaguars ran twenty six times for seventy one yards,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: that's two point seven per in their win in Nashville.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Can they run better than that this week? First of all,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: give credit to the defense for that win. I mean
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: the job that they did against the Titans, and and
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: also Will Levis was outstanding. The Jaguars offense was not
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: great in that bulk, So.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: That's a definite.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, maybe we'll take a break in return more
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: with Jeff here on the Doug Peterson Show.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: After this quick pause in the Jaguars Radio.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Network, welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Right now, Briana, Jeffwards.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: You have the Doug Peterson Show from the Hyundai Studios
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: inside the Miller Electric Center. I hope your Christmas was great.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: We hope the Jaguars find a way to get their
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: second win of the season at EverBank Stadium. It's you know,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: there have been so many games that it felt like
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: they were in it, Jeff, I mean the Packers game,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: the Vikings game, the Jets game, but they didn't close
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: the deal.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: I was actually just you know, John Osher has the
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: kind of you and I and Frank and Tony and
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: everybody writes kind of what our thoughts are for the game.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: It's published on Saturday on Jaguars dot Com Final Analysis,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: and I was actually just writing in there that I
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: hope that the fans can come to the stadium and
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: have a little holiday cheer one more time. This is
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: the last time, and it hasn't been a great season
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: at home, and just to give them something to entertain
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: them and give them something to cheer about.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, they all want to come and
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: to watch Brian Thomas junior.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: How many people are going to be rooting for the
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: loss though, in draft position and all of that.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: You know, listen, I in twenty twenty, I was rooting
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: for them to lose every week, right because it was
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: clear they weren't agree and Trevor Lawrence was sitting out
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: there and as it as it played out, that was
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: the right thing to happen.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Circumstances are different.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they are different. Listen, you win one, you lose one.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Here at the end, you're going to be picking to
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: the top six or seven and that's going to get
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: you a good football player. Yes, it might not get
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: the exact player you want, but then again, there's no
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: guarantee the Daguars are going to take the exact player
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: that you want, even if they're sitting there at number one.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: I just it's the Titans. You can't root against them
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: when they're playing the Titans.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: I just don't think that. You can't. No, no, you can't.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: It's the Titans are different ever since nineteen ninety nine
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: and Jeff Fisher when he made those comments, that just solidified.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: Oh you mean at the Super Bowl about yeah, about
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: the whole stadium. Yeah, if you weren't here.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: When Jeff Fisher was the head coach of the Titans,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: they beat the Jaguars in the AFC Championship Game to
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: advance to the Super Bowl. He was asked at the
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl press conference, how'd you manage it?
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Going from all the home stadiums that you played in.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: You had the Astrodome, Britty Bowl in ninety seven when
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: they played in Memphis in ninety eight, their first year
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: in Nashville, they played at Vanderbilt Stadium and then they
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: moved into what is now Nissan Stadium, and he he's like,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: there's four, you know, home stadiums you had. He goes,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: what you forgot one, just with the wry little smile
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: on his face. And the reporter said which one? He said, well,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: it was at that tim Alltel Stadium in Jacksonville, and
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: everybody broke up laughing.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: It's a great line, a great line.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: And he was at the j Fund Tom Coughlin's gala
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: years later and just everybody wanted to needle him about it.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: He left with about four hundred best friends.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: They loved it. Oh yea, because he just he's a
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: great guy. He is a great guy. He's a great guy.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Talked to him on a couple of different occasions. A
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: great guy. He stuck it to the Jaguars well, and
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: you know, because people, and you know, I almost wish
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: that for the current players to understand kind of how
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: this whole rivalry, how deep it runs, is to go
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: back and show some of that to the current players
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: of today.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Hold that thought. We've got to take a break when
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: we come back more about Sunday's game. Brian Sexton, Jeffuan
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: with you here on the Doug Peterson Show. We'll wrap
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: things up after this.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Final moments of the Doug Peterson Show here on the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Jaguars Radio Network. I'm Brian Sexton filling in this evening
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: along with Jeff Logman, and we've been getting you ready
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: for Sunday's season finale against the Tennessee Titans. It comes
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: your way at one o'clock, and of course we'll have
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: all the action locally in Jacksonville. We'll get started at
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: ten o'clock. We'll pick up the network at noon and
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: then kick off against Tennessee. The secondary has been a
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: what I choose your adjective problem, A disappointment, a bugaboo.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, you figure it out. The safety spot in particular,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: they get Dewey Wingered back this week. Does it make
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: a big difference?
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: I think it helps because I think it helps kind
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: of calm calm the back end down a little bit.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: The one thing about Andrew Wingard is that he's a
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: good football player, and he's a smart football player. And
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: I think he's a really good communicator back there, and
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: I think they've missed his presence this year with the
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: injury that he had obviously set him back a little
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: bit with his ability to be available for this football team.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: Dewey says, he's ready to go. He looked like he
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: was ready to go this past game, wasn't given the opportunity.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: And with the issue with Savage being in the protocol,
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: I think it's time for for winger.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: You know, when you look at the safety position going forward,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's clear Andre Cisco is not
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: going to be back.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think so. I mean I think that
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: that's uh, he's going to be able to get to
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: the market, and you know, good luck with him. And
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: I like and he's made a lot of mistakes this
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: year and he's had a kind of a tough year.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: And but you got to figure out something in the
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: back end, you know, because the whole reason, like you
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: brought Darnell Savage here was to play nickel, and then
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: you couldn't play him at nickel because your issues at safety,
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: right you move him to safety and he doesn't I
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: don't think he has enough top end speed to play safe.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: So what do you have to work with a safety?
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, do you think dow he's a guy here?
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: I think he's a starter. I think he is. And
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: then you hope that you can continue to develop Antonio
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: Johnson and he can get better. Is he a safety?
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: Is great? You know, Look, you've you've got to be
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: able to uh, your mind has to be sharp to
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: play safety. I think last year Antonio was able to
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: excel a little bit because he was in a kind
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: of that in his own little island, playing nickel for
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: the most part, and then a little other things that
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: they gave him to do. But they get they put
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: a he had a small plate. Well now when you
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: play safety, now you have adjustments and a new defense
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, now there's a challenge to it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: And I think the coaches can help out too. This
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: is supposed to be I think Ryan Nielsen's had a
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: great year. Obviously, this defense has gone backwards.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: It was supposed to be a simple defense. Something that
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: went made it faster. That We've got a lot of
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: time to talk about this. We're at times and you've
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: got a television show to do. All Access with All
• 43:56
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• 43:57
  Speaker 4: MAC Jones strings, come join us, all right and it's
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: on live at what time? Uh seven o'clock?
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: All right, Jeff, pleasure as always always, And that'll do
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: it for our show. Have a wonderful rest of your evening.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: We'll talk to you on Sunday. From Everbangs Stadium is
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars try to get a home win in their
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: home final. Gay night, everybody,