Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / The Sarah Kellen Congressional Transcript (Part 6) (6/14/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
- 0:06where we left off with Sarah Kellen and her chat
- 0:09with Congress. Question do you know of the name Jean
- 0:13lu Brunell? Answer yes? Question who is mister Brunell? Answer?
- 0:21He was the owner of a modeling agency and friends
- 0:23with Jeffrey and Galaine. Question was that agency mc squared
- 0:28answer yes? Question apologies, I believe another member has entered
- 0:32the room. If that member could please identify themselves for
- 0:35the record, mister Garcia Representative Garcia, mister Burlison, representative from
- 0:41Missouri seventh redacted. I'm sorry, Kellen, that's okay. Question what
- 0:48was your understanding mister Brunell's connection to Jeffrey Epstein? Answer?
- 0:53There were friends and I know Jeffrey invested in his
- 0:56modeling agency. Question did mister Brunell, to your knowledge, truit
- 1:00women or young girls to MC squared? Answer? I believe
- 1:03he was a model scout for the agency. Question did
- 1:07he then make those women available to Jeffrey Epstein? Answer?
- 1:10I know that he was introduced some of the models
- 1:12to him. Question and did anyone to your knowledge ever
- 1:16pay Jeffrey Epstein for arranging sexual encounters or relationships with
- 1:21young women or girls. Answer did anyone pay Jeffrey? Question yes,
- 1:26answer not to my knowledge. Question you spoke in your
- 1:30opening statement about flying on Jeffrey Epstein's plane as part
- 1:33of your role. Do you recall how many times you
- 1:35did that? Answer? How many times I flew on the plane?
- 1:39Answer or question? Yeah? Answer it was constant, so I
- 1:42couldn't give a number. Question and those trips that were
- 1:46part of your job duties, if I understand correctly? Answer correct.
- 1:50Question During the period of time that you were working
- 1:52for Jeffrey Epstein, did he ever travel without you or
- 1:56did you always accompany him? Answer? I'm sure there were
- 1:59times without that I wasn't with them. Would you say
- 2:03you were with them for the majority of the trips?
- 2:05Answer probably the majority. Question in terms of flights that
- 2:09you were on, did you ever witness sexual activity take
- 2:12place on any of those flights? Answer? I was abused
- 2:15on his planes. Question it's my understanding that there was
- 2:19a directory that contained the names of young women or
- 2:22girls who provided massages to Jeffrey Epstein. Am I correct
- 2:25about that? Answer? Glaine had a directory that she and
- 2:29the it guy at the time, she had to make
- 2:31a directory that contained all their contact information. Question was
- 2:36that directory a hard copy or was it stored electronically? Answer?
- 2:41It was stored on an internal server that you could
- 2:43access through Citrix, so all of the employees and assistants
- 2:47could access it. And then Golaine would have them printed
- 2:51in hard copy I think once or twice a year,
- 2:54and she had a big printer and like a whole
- 2:56setup with a binding machine and a guillotine to like
- 2:59print them all and make them and distribute them all
- 3:02around the houses. Question where was the server located? Answer
- 3:07I'm not sure. I know. The it guy was based
- 3:09in Ohio. It was the same old it guy that
- 3:12worked for Les Wexner. Question what was his name? Answer?
- 3:16I don't remember right now, but it may come to me.
- 3:18Question if it does, please let us know. Answer I will.
- 3:22Question you said Glaine had hard copies of the directory
- 3:26printed out or two times a year. Answer I remember
- 3:29the name. Sorry, question that's okay? Answer Mark Lundberg. Question
- 3:34Mark answer Lundberg. Question l U N D B E
- 3:40R G. Answer Yes, question, thank you. The hard copies
- 3:44of the directory that you mentioned that Glainne Maxwell had
- 3:47them printed once or twice a year. Do you know
- 3:50how many hard copies were generated altogether? Answer? I don't.
- 3:53Question do you know where they were kept? Answer? She
- 3:56had them placed by all the phones in the houses.
- 3:59Question in every house? Answer every house. Question And did
- 4:03the directory only contain the names of people who gave
- 4:06massages or did it also contain the names of other individuals? Answer?
- 4:12It was everybody that they knew. It was technically Glaine's directory.
- 4:16She had it categorized by locations and places. Basically everybody
- 4:20they knew was in that directory. Question Okay, so it
- 4:24wasn't specifically a directory of massage providers? Answer no. Question.
- 4:29And do I understand correctly that all of Jeffrey's staff
- 4:33had access to the directory? Answer? All of like New
- 4:37York assistants in the Madison Avenue office would have had
- 4:40access to it. I'm not sure about the house staff.
- 4:43They would have had access to at least parts, because
- 4:45I think there were other things stored on the citric
- 4:48server pretending to the house. Question and who added names
- 4:52to the directory over time? Answer all the assistants. Glane
- 4:56would usually give me like a stack of names and
- 4:58numbers and tell me, like what category to answer them
- 5:01under as part of my tasks. Question, I have a
- 5:04few questions about the pom Beach House and specifically the
- 5:07room in which massages were performed. To the best of
- 5:11your recollection, it's my understanding that there was an image
- 5:15of a nude woman or a woman inside the massage room.
- 5:18Is that right? Miss Ham's sorry to clarify, is this
- 5:22an image of you? You can answer the question if
- 5:24it's an image of you, Kellen. There were drawings, like
- 5:28pencil drawings of like anatomy of people, like there were
- 5:33question women answer men and women? Question? Were they sexually explicit? Answer?
- 5:40Not really? I remember it being like a torso, But
- 5:43there was like a pencil drawing and I remember paintings
- 5:45of nude women in the bathroom. Question were there any
- 5:49other depictions of nude women anywhere in the house? Ham?
- 5:53If they are depictions of you, you can answer. Kellen,
- 5:57there was a nude photo of me in the gym
- 5:59and pomp Beach. Question. And again with respect to the
- 6:02massage room, did you ever see any sex toys or
- 6:05sexual paraphernalia inside the room? Ham? I don't think we
- 6:09can answer questions on that redacted. Sorry, that's not addressed
- 6:13to victims. Ham, I understand the allegations have been made,
- 6:16and she's not going to answer the questions that go
- 6:19down that path because it could incriminate her. That's why.
- 6:23That's the sole reason. Remember, she has it positioned here
- 6:27as she is a survivor. But there's a lot more
- 6:30to the story redacted. I think it would be helpful
- 6:37if we could define the path as we proceed, Ham,
- 6:40she's not going to answer questions about other victims and
- 6:42questions specific to massage in Palm Beach that could implicate
- 6:46other victims. Question. Okay, so the entire category of massages, Ham, yes,
- 6:52question okay. I have a few questions about Zora Ranch.
- 6:58When you were talking about your responsibilities, you said mostly
- 7:01it involved sourcing that was predominantly in Palm Beach that
- 7:05in New York it was a little more errands. Is
- 7:08that correct answer? New York was mostly running errands to
- 7:11buy things for all the houses, various houses that he
- 7:15wanted and working on projects and kind of collecting things
- 7:18for all the houses to when we went to the
- 7:20house next. So that was mostly running errands in New York.
- 7:25Question what about Zora Ranch? What were your responsibilities related
- 7:28to the ranch. Answer, I remember him doing some various
- 7:32renovation projects as well. He wanted one time he wanted
- 7:37I believe. I don't know if he commissioned a painting
- 7:39or wanted, like I don't know if he already had
- 7:41the painting, But I just remember there was like a
- 7:44big project to get like a custom made wooden frame
- 7:47for it. Various things like that. I'm trying to think specifically.
- 7:51I mean, I was just kind of always around to
- 7:53do whatever you told me to do. Question would he
- 7:56ever have you travel to Zoro Ranch to work on
- 7:59these projects on your or without them? Answer? No? Question Okay,
- 8:04so you would only be there when you traveled with them?
- 8:08Answer Mostly there were a couple of times that he
- 8:10let me go there on like a vacation to use
- 8:12the ranch without them. Question got it? Did you ever
- 8:15book anyone else's travel to Zorra Ranch? Answer it's possible.
- 8:19Question do you have any do you have any memory
- 8:22of what that might have been for? Answer not specifically,
- 8:26question any memory of approximate timeframe? Answer? I mean he
- 8:29usually went to the ranch once a year in August.
- 8:33It was kind of his typical month that he would go.
- 8:35Miss Ham can I just clarify on booking travel, do
- 8:38you mean on his X aeroplane or commercial flights? Question?
- 8:42Either ham or either redacted question? Did you do either? Answer?
- 8:48I arranged travel on his private plane. I was responsible
- 8:51for kind of coordinating the pilots and whoever else might
- 8:55be traveling with them, and the chef and the plane
- 8:57snacks and loading the plane and all of that that
- 9:00type of thing. And he also had me book commercial flights. Question. Okay,
- 9:05and for both the private and commercial flights, you don't
- 9:09have a firm memory of who you may be booking
- 9:12the travel for. I know you said once a year
- 9:14in August, but you don't have a firm memory of
- 9:16what yours answer for booking travel, I don't have a
- 9:20specific recollection question. Okay. I'm going to set those aside
- 9:25and the ranking member is going to ask some questions.
- 9:28Mister Garcia, thank you first, thanks for being here. I
- 9:32appreciate it. I know that you're going to be You've
- 9:34had a series of questions that you've been answering all day,
- 9:37so I appreciate that. Just a couple of questions that
- 9:41I just want to make sure get asked in this hour.
- 9:43I know it's been publicly reported by the media that
- 9:46Jeffrey Epstein was a visitor, in some media reports a
- 9:49frequent visitor Tomorrow Lago. Was this the case when you
- 9:52were working for Jeffrey Epstein, Miss Kellen in the beginning,
- 9:56mister Garcia, it was okay, Kellen. You would use the
- 10:00gym a lot there. Garcia, Okay, you said the Jim Kellen, Yeah, Garcia, okay.
- 10:07What was your overall understanding of Jeffrey Epstein's relationship to
- 10:09mar A Lago, Kellen. I knew that he had been
- 10:12friends with President Trump. I went with Jeffrey to the
- 10:15gym there a few times. I remember one of the
- 10:18times meeting mister Trump for like five minutes at mar
- 10:20A Lago. That was my only encounter with them during
- 10:23my employment. I'd seen photos of them them together around
- 10:27the houses, so I knew that they were friendly in
- 10:29that regard. Garcia. And would you consider, I mean, it's
- 10:32been reported that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein were friends,
- 10:36you would consider that to be an accurate reporting, Kellen.
- 10:39I would assume so from the photographs that I saw,
- 10:42But I only met him the one time in my
- 10:44employment at mar A Lago for like five minutes. Garcia
- 10:48and the photographs you saw the two You saw those
- 10:50photographs in the various locations Kellen, Uh huh. Garcia and
- 10:55what locations Kellen, Palm Beach, the Ranch, New York. He
- 10:59kind of had the same photos a lot of the
- 11:01important prominent people. He would display them in all the
- 11:04houses Garcia, so Zorro, Ranch, Palm Beach, and New York. Kellen,
- 11:10Uh huh. Garcia. Do you recall about when Jeffrey Epstein
- 11:13sort of stop going tomorrow lago? Kellen, Yes, Garcia. Can
- 11:17you give me more a little more information on that, Kellen,
- 11:20It was pretty early on in my employment. I remember,
- 11:23I don't know if I ever heard him, like him
- 11:25and Glane talking about or how I knew, but Trump
- 11:28banned them from going back because he had like hid
- 11:30on a member's daughter or something along those lines. Garcia,
- 11:33Uh huh. And there was I know there's been public
- 11:36reporting they had some type of falling out. There was
- 11:39also a falling out with a house that they were
- 11:41both bidding on in Palm Beach, and I believe Trump well,
- 11:45I know that Trump won the bid and there was
- 11:47a bit of contention around that. Garcia. So involving some
- 11:50kind of real estate transaction. Kellen, uh huh, Garcia, Okay,
- 11:55I know that there's been reporting on that as well.
- 11:57Now it's been reported that mar A Lago was sending
- 12:00spawn employees, usually young women, to the Palm Beach House
- 12:03to provide massages, manicures, other services. We know Glenn Maxwell's
- 12:08accused of recruiting and trafficking survivors there. This has been
- 12:11public reporting. Are you do you recall this? Kellen? I
- 12:15don't recall that during my time, Garcia, but you have
- 12:19since then heard about the public reporting, Kellen, I have, Garcia. Okay,
- 12:23did you ever schedule appointments for any mar A Lago
- 12:26employees to come to Epstein's home? Kellen, No, Garcia, So
- 12:30you yourself never scheduled any employee any appointments from mar
- 12:34A Lago to Jeffrey Epstein's home. Is that correct, Kellen?
- 12:37Not that I remember, Garcia, but you have read the
- 12:40public record. Are you aware of anyone else that scheduled
- 12:43any appointments for anybody from mar A Lago to Jeffrey Epstein. Kellen,
- 12:48I've read the accounts of Glene meeting Virginia at mar
- 12:51A Lago, Garcia, were you aware at the time that
- 12:53Gallaine had met Virginia Kellen. I wasn't aware of that
- 12:56story until I read it or heard about it in
- 12:59the press, Garcia. But I'm assuming that you have met
- 13:02you've met Virginia at some point, Kellen. I don't remember
- 13:05meeting her. I'm aware of there being two flight logs
- 13:07with us on it together, but other than that, I
- 13:10don't remember. Garcia. I'm going to thank you. We'll have
- 13:13additional questions on this topic a little bit later, but
- 13:16thank you. All Right, folks, we're going to wrap up
- 13:18right here, and in the next episode dealing with the topic,
- 13:21we're going to pick up where we left off. All
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