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The Rita Panahi Show | 11 March · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On sky Lives Ostrodia.
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Speaker 2: This is the Wider Paney Show.
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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the reader Paney Show coming
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Speaker 3: up tonight. Labor indulges in more disinformation online as the
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Speaker 3: party's social media campaign intensifies in the lead up to
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Speaker 3: the federal election. Patrick Carline will be here to discuss
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Speaker 3: that and much more. The new South Wales Minister for
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Speaker 3: Women flounders when asked about malebodies in women's sport. Stephanie
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Speaker 3: Bastian joins me later in the hour. Kosher Gator will
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Speaker 3: weigh in on whether Malcolm Turnbull's attention seeking antics will
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Speaker 3: cost Australia as we negotiate a tariff exemption with the US.
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Speaker 3: And Alex Stein will be here right after left he
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Speaker 3: is losing it Tonight starring the word salads specialist herself,
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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris.
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Speaker 4: And I'm thinking about this about so I was.
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Speaker 3: Willing to give up whatever might be the tracking.
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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris's particular fondness for a notch of chief doritos.
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Speaker 3: Yes, but first, if this poll is right, the Tills
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Speaker 3: are in a world of trouble. Polling from fresh Water
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Speaker 3: Strategy has indicated that four of the six Climate two
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Speaker 3: hundred backed MPs are likely to lose their seats at
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Speaker 3: the next election amid a collapse in support for Labour
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Speaker 3: and the Greens, whose preferences the Tills rely on. In
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Speaker 3: curtain Keong, Goldstein and mckella, the Liberals are back on
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Speaker 3: top with an average two party preferred vote of fifty
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Speaker 3: one to forty nine against the Tills, and if this
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Speaker 3: is replicated during the election, the Coalition would boot out
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Speaker 3: Kate Cheney, Nique Ryan z O'Daniel and Sophie Scamps from Parliament,
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Speaker 3: leaving just Allegra Spender and Zali Steggle to represent the Tills.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this is News Corps
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Speaker 3: senior writer Patrick Carly and Patrick is this the end
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Speaker 3: of the Tills ex experiment?
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Speaker 5: It's an interesting poll, isn't it, Because it basically it
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Speaker 5: goes to the fact that in twenty twenty two we
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Speaker 5: were talking about much different things to now. Cost of
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Speaker 5: living wasn't the main issue. We weren't talking about economic management.
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Speaker 5: We're talking more about climate change. And there was also
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Speaker 5: this visceral sort of dislike for Scott Morrison in the electorate.
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Speaker 5: So the TiAl sort of cashed in on a moment
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Speaker 5: in time, if you like, and it was very successful.
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Speaker 5: They got six seats. The world has changed dramatically since then.
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Speaker 5: The Labor and the Green vote has dropped the primary vote,
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Speaker 5: and you can see, you can actually see how this
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Speaker 5: might actually play out, where the tials, even though their
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Speaker 5: voters stayed much you're saying the preferences will work against them.
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Speaker 5: They could be wiped out effectively. Companies election, and I.
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Speaker 3: Think people have discovered that they're not conservative alternatives, which
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Speaker 3: is how they sold themselves. It was deeply dishonest, which
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Speaker 3: is pretty ironic given that one of the other big
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Speaker 3: issues the last election was integrity. Remember it was all
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Speaker 3: about integrity and climate, and they were presenting themselves as
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Speaker 3: an alternative for liberal voters. But anyone who looked at
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Speaker 3: who they were and what their policies were, they pretty
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Speaker 3: much fit into the Greens. They're certainly in my mind,
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Speaker 3: left of the Labor Party. And I think Simon Holmes,
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Speaker 3: the court has done a beautiful job for the Liberals
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Speaker 3: getting rid of all those wets, all those smaller liberals
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Speaker 3: they were compromising the party. So I think in the
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Speaker 3: long run it's a big win for conservatives all around.
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Speaker 3: Now let's have a look at how Labour's social media
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Speaker 3: campaign is going. Housing Minister Cla O'Neill and a bunch
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Speaker 3: of her colleagues have served up this.
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Speaker 6: I will not be lectured about sexism and misogyny by
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Speaker 6: this man.
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Speaker 3: I will not and the government not be.
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Speaker 6: Lectured about saying and misogyny.
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Speaker 3: By this man. Not now, not ever.
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Speaker 6: The leader of the Opposition says that people who hold sexes.
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Speaker 7: Views and are.
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Speaker 6: Not appropriate for high office. Well, I hope the Leader
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Speaker 6: the Opposition has got a piece of paper and he
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Speaker 6: is writing out his insignation because he wants to know
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Speaker 6: what misogyny looks like in Australia.
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Speaker 3: And he doesn't need emotion. You know how this rerecumcenter is.
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Speaker 3: He needs a mir Dear me, you think Tanya Plima
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Speaker 3: sec would know better, but there's a bunch of Labor ministers,
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Speaker 3: their MPs. That's the infamous Julia Gillard misogyny speech which
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Speaker 3: a man wrote for her. And listening to that now
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Speaker 3: and knowing the circumstances, and we knew the circumstances of
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Speaker 3: the time, but I think, how do you think that
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Speaker 3: speech is age? Listening to those ladies' lip sync? It
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Speaker 3: is it one that the left will be proud to
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Speaker 3: promote or is it now got a certain element of
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Speaker 3: cringe to it.
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Speaker 2: Look, it was wrapped up in the politics of the day.
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Speaker 5: It was aimed squarely at Tony Abbott, who was opposition
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Speaker 5: leader at the time. It was in twenty twelve. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: obviously a long time ago. I'm not sure how relevant
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Speaker 5: how it's dated now. It was an important thing in
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Speaker 5: the moment, but actually running it out now apparently for
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Speaker 5: no strong reason.
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Speaker 3: I could only think it would be International Women's Day
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Speaker 3: that decided, of all the things that could promote that
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Speaker 3: was it. And what happened shortly after twenty twelve at
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Speaker 3: a federal election and they lost in an absolute landslide
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Speaker 3: to Tony Abbots. So maybe that would indicate to them
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Speaker 3: outside the media circles, the academic circles, the activist circles,
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Speaker 3: that speech did not resonate. That speech was seen for
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Speaker 3: what it was. It was just a diversion from the
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Speaker 3: woes of the Qaali Guillard and her government at the time.
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Speaker 5: And I think to try and weaponize it now as
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Speaker 5: a party political sort of instrument, if you like, it
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Speaker 5: really doesn't resonate at all. Back at that speech and
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Speaker 5: you can argue the toss wasn't this important or that important.
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Speaker 2: It was a big deal at the time, but it's
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Speaker 2: ancient history now.
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Speaker 5: It has no sort of relevance to what's going on
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Speaker 5: in society today, certainly on a details level.
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Speaker 2: It just it doesn't work at all. I don't think now.
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Speaker 2: It sounds like it happened a long time ago.
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Speaker 3: It does. But what a Labor also gone back to
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Speaker 3: is their medi Scare campaign, and it was successful for
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Speaker 3: them last time. It certainly had an impact, and they're
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Speaker 3: doing it again. They're promoting what is essentially disinformation, misinformation
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Speaker 3: across social media. Let's have a look at their ad.
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Speaker 2: We're very clear about this.
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Speaker 8: Medicare is dead. They can't be for free. We have
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Speaker 8: to pay for a world class medical system. We are
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Speaker 8: determined to send a price signal so that we can
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Speaker 8: move away from the view that everything can be for
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Speaker 8: free in health in this country because it can't be.
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Speaker 3: Sounds pretty damning. You got Peter Dutton. They're saying Medicare
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Speaker 3: is dead, but what he actually say, Let's have a
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Speaker 3: look at the full clip.
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Speaker 8: So the government is determined to make sure that Medicare
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Speaker 8: is sustainable. We are determined to send a price signal
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Speaker 8: so that we can move away from the view that
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Speaker 8: everything can be for free in health in this country
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Speaker 8: because it can't be.
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Speaker 2: We're very clear about this.
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Speaker 8: Medicare is dead if we can't make it sustainable today.
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Speaker 8: But we are absolutely determined to make Medicare sustainable so
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Speaker 8: the Labor Party can pretend to the Australian public that
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Speaker 8: things are for free. They can't be for free. We
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Speaker 8: have to pay for a world class medical system. We
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Speaker 8: will negotiate with the Senators. We are pragmatic about the
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Speaker 8: approaches that might be available to us, but we will
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Speaker 8: make Medicare sustainable.
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Speaker 3: That was just straight out just disinformation. There's no other
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Speaker 3: word for it. And it's pretty rich for a party
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Speaker 3: that bleeds endlessly about disinformation, that wants to suppress our
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Speaker 3: free speech, supposedly to protect us from disinformed, and they
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Speaker 3: pump that out. And that's a paid Facebook ad, So
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Speaker 3: it's not only appearing on TikTok and LinkedIn a whole
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Speaker 3: bunch of other sites, but it's actually paid and promoted
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Speaker 3: on Facebook. So I'm sure hundreds of thousands of people
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Speaker 3: have probably seen it by now.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely look they've cheated, they've misrepresented what he was trying
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Speaker 5: to say, and they've completely taken it out of context.
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Speaker 5: That wasn't what he was trying to say at all.
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Speaker 5: I think we're going to say more and more of this,
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Speaker 5: especially in this social media age. I mean, you can
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Speaker 5: get away with things that you can't in the mainstream press.
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Speaker 5: You can sort of make claims that can get some
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Speaker 5: purchase if you like, with the electorate in ways that
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Speaker 5: the mainstream press you can't do. And I'm sure we
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Speaker 5: will see more and more of this where they're just
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Speaker 5: trying it on and hoping that it actually lands to
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Speaker 5: an extent before it gets removed or called out or whatever.
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Speaker 5: And look, it's not good for politics, and it's not
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Speaker 5: good for debate because it is cheating.
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Speaker 3: Well it is. It's just so deeply dishonest, and you know,
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Speaker 3: Labour parties should be better than that. Now, let's go
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Speaker 3: to a Quantus chair John Mullen, who's warned that companies
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Speaker 3: should steer clear of involving themselves in social causes. Quantus
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Speaker 3: has of course been guilty of doing that for many,
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Speaker 3: many years, and Patrick they still inflict those incessant acknowledge
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Speaker 3: amount of country announcements every time one of their planes
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Speaker 3: lands domestically. I know there's plenty of staff who resent
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Speaker 3: having to do it, but they're obliged to. Perhaps I
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Speaker 3: don't know that the chair could have a word to
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Speaker 3: his own CEO the board and actually take his own advice.
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Speaker 2: Look what John Mullen had to say.
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's a breath of fresh air after so
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Speaker 5: many years of having these big companies trying to sort
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Speaker 5: of read the breeze and sort of go on a
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Speaker 5: social issue that a lot of people sort of silently
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Speaker 5: have been forced to sort of grumble about and say, wow,
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Speaker 5: I don't agree with that. John Mullen makes a good point.
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Speaker 5: He talks about the regions that don't like big city
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Speaker 5: elites imposing values on them and telling them how to think,
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Speaker 5: and he use the word lecturing. These big companies can't
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Speaker 5: lecture Australians. We don't want to be lectured. We don't
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Speaker 5: want to be told what to think. I think this
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Speaker 5: is so welcome to hear a CEO actually saying this
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Speaker 5: after so many years of actually being force fared this
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Speaker 5: big company nonsense, which is about you know, it's about
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Speaker 5: sort of getting people on side. It's about sort of
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Speaker 5: being on the right side of history. What mister Mullen
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Speaker 5: used the term just do the knitting and in this
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Speaker 5: case just fly planes.
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Speaker 2: I don't care what qunscious thinks about this or that
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Speaker 2: I have no interest for them.
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Speaker 3: That is, I think a very widely held opinion. Whatever
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Speaker 3: side of politics you're from, you want your corporates to
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Speaker 3: stick to their knitting, do what they're supposed to do,
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Speaker 3: and do it well, take care of their staff, take
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Speaker 3: care of their customers, and leave the politics to the politicians.
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Speaker 3: Patrick Carline, thank you so much for your time tonight.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Sky News contributor Kosher Gaeta Kosher.
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Speaker 3: Let's start with Malcolm Turnbull, the feud between Malcolm Turnbull
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Speaker 3: and US President Donald Trump. Now the prime minister. The
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Speaker 3: former prime minister did start this war of words with
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Speaker 3: some ill advised attention seeking. He was on US TV
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Speaker 3: just doing what he does, not sure what he was
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Speaker 3: trying to achieve there, but in response, President Trump posted
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Speaker 3: this on truth Social saying, Malcolm Turnbull, the former Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister of Australia, who was always leading that wonderful country
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Speaker 3: from behind, never understood what was going on in China
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Speaker 3: nor did he have the capacity to do so? I
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Speaker 3: always thought he was a week an ineffective leader, and
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Speaker 3: obviously Australians agreed with me, Yes we did. And Turnbull
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Speaker 3: then went on the ABC. Of course he did, and
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Speaker 3: he had this to say.
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Speaker 9: Are we just going to become just a conger line
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Speaker 9: of sycophants creeping through the White House?
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Speaker 3: Oh dear, you can just know he rehearsed those lines
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Speaker 3: in front of the mirror. What will this attention seeking
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Speaker 3: by the former prime minister do to our negotiations with
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Speaker 3: the US. We do want this tariff exemption. Will this
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Speaker 3: hurt or hinder that? Or will have absolutely no impact?
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Speaker 10: I think it certainly doesn't help. Is it the core driver?
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Speaker 10: Probably not. That's economic policy and where Team Trump stands
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Speaker 10: on that. But these things don't help Trump. We know,
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Speaker 10: I think everybody, but especially him, is a beast of
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Speaker 10: policy and personality. Whether it's Zelenski in the Ukraine, who
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Speaker 10: he doesn't have a lot of fondness for, whether it's
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Speaker 10: people over here, whether it's Kevin Rudd, who we know
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Speaker 10: has sparred with him as well. This just adds to that.
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Speaker 10: It's probably not good form for former prime ministers to
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Speaker 10: come in and muddy the waters anyways, is making the
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Speaker 10: job difficult of the current administration, and most people will
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Speaker 10: never win against Trump in a war of words. It
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Speaker 10: just will never win. So it's just better to keep
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Speaker 10: quiet and let the administration do what it's doing.
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Speaker 3: And as he said previously, he's holding all the right
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Speaker 3: Now we're the ones who are wanting something, So I
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Speaker 3: would suggest let's just be a little bit more diplomatic
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Speaker 3: for the time being. Now, let's talk about the horrific
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Speaker 3: scenes in Syria of armed men loyal to the government
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Speaker 3: rounding up religious minorities, torturing, slaughtering them. They talking about
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Speaker 3: purifying the country as they kill men, women, and children Kosher.
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Speaker 3: This was sadly predictable. We've seen tyrants removed in countries
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Speaker 3: like Iraq and Libya to be replaced by something even worse,
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Speaker 3: And is that what's happening now in Syria appears to.
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Speaker 10: Be predictable predicted. Many people on camera repeatedly have said
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Speaker 10: this and called for this over the years, Trump and Tossa.
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Speaker 10: Gabbert being two more prominent examples. And you know, the
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Speaker 10: US is at a cross roads in terms of its
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Speaker 10: foreign policy approach and We've had the forty fifty years
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Speaker 10: of policing the world and beating the world, inviting the
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Speaker 10: world in through immigration, and now we're breaking away from
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Speaker 10: that clearly with Trump and his team about non interventionalism.
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Speaker 10: And one reason is just economic that we're stretched too
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Speaker 10: thin and it's really none of our business to be
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Speaker 10: doing that when there's so many domestic problems. The other
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Speaker 10: reason is what you're seeing here, that we live in
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Speaker 10: very complicated world, and often the choice between leaders in
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Speaker 10: these hot spots is not between good and evil, but
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Speaker 10: it's between bad and worse. And we go in removing
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Speaker 10: the quote bad guy, and often you have no idea
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Speaker 10: who's on the other side, or what's going to happen,
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Speaker 10: and which types of actors are going to fill that void,
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Speaker 10: and then you just create a bigger mess, which further
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Speaker 10: supports the argument of the other side that wants a
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Speaker 10: US to keep policing and invading, and then that downward
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Speaker 10: spiral continues. I don't know what Trump administration is going
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Speaker 10: to do here because they inherited this mess, but it
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Speaker 10: looks like they are going to stick to less interventionalism.
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Speaker 2: Not more.
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Speaker 3: Well, there's some foreign policy experts, some former leaders who
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Speaker 3: look like absolute fools in the moment, the ones who
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Speaker 3: celebrated what happened in Syria just a few weeks ago,
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Speaker 3: as if it was the dawn of some uiege of democracy,
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Speaker 3: not looking at who was actually seizing power. And you
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Speaker 3: mentioned Tulsa Gabbert. It was only a couple of months
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Speaker 3: ago that she warned about what could occur.
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Speaker 11: No tears for the fall of the Assad regime. But
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Speaker 11: today we have an Islamist extremist who is now in
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Speaker 11: charge of Syria, as I said, who danced on the
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Speaker 11: streets to celebrate the nine to eleven attack.
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Speaker 3: Who ruled over it, lived with.
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Speaker 11: An Islamist extremist governance, and who has already begun to
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Speaker 11: persecute and kill and arrest religious minorities like Christians in Syria.
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Speaker 3: I understood why that should be acceptable to anyone is
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Speaker 3: beyond me. And Donald Trump was warning about this some
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Speaker 3: ten years ago.
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Speaker 12: So I've watched Assad, and I've watched a little bit
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Speaker 12: on the other side.
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Speaker 2: The problem is the other side of the side. We
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Speaker 2: have no idea who they are.
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Speaker 12: They probably are Racis, I'm saying, are we beent off
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Speaker 12: with a sad We have no idea who these people are.
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Speaker 12: We give them weapons, we give them ammunition, we give
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Speaker 12: them everything. Erin, we have no idea who I mean.
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Speaker 12: Maybe it's worse than a side.
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Speaker 2: So what are we doing? Why are we involved?
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Speaker 12: We have to get rid of ices very importantly. But
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Speaker 12: I look at Aside, and Aside to me looks better
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Speaker 12: than the other side.
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Speaker 2: And you know, this has happened before.
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Speaker 12: We back a certain side and that side turns out to.
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Speaker 3: Be a total catastrophe.
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Speaker 12: Russia likes Aside seemingly a lot.
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Speaker 3: Kosher. I think it was Tony Abbott who said it's
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Speaker 3: baddies versus baddies. We're talking about Syria, and sadly, no,
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Speaker 3: it might seem simplistic, but it's the reality of what's
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Speaker 3: happening there, and the West just keeps making the same
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Speaker 3: mistake over and over again. Now, meanwhile, in Romania, the
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Speaker 3: leading candidate there, Kulin Djesku, has been banned from running
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Speaker 3: in the upcoming presidential election in May. Kosher, this is
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Speaker 3: a NATO nation, This is supposed to be a democratic nation.
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Speaker 3: But this candidate won the first round that was deemed
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Speaker 3: illegitimates for some reason, they were claiming there was Russian
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Speaker 3: interference so now banned from running the front runner.
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Speaker 10: This is pretty stunning development. And when you do things
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Speaker 10: like that, you null an election that was conducted freely
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Speaker 10: and then you ban the candidate from running again. It
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Speaker 10: is not a consequence free action that they're taking over here,
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Speaker 10: because what they're doing is creating a pressure quiker environment
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Speaker 10: in the nation where at least a certain faction of
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Speaker 10: the citizenry is having a lid put on their demands
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Speaker 10: and there is no venue for them to address their grievances.
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Speaker 10: That is not going to end well. It never does
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Speaker 10: when you look throughout the span of history and you
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Speaker 10: can see protests right now happening in Romania, people taking
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Speaker 10: to the streets, so you know, buckle up from more
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Speaker 10: unrest and hopefully, you know, worse things could happen.
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Speaker 3: We hope not.
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Speaker 10: It also very much validates Jade Vance and the comments
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Speaker 10: he's been making in Munich and other venues recently about
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Speaker 10: why are we underwriting so called democracies in Europe? And
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Speaker 10: this phrase, you know, let's not be a threat to democracy,
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Speaker 10: let's defend democracy has become a chant almost and the
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Speaker 10: louder they chanted it's because these things are happening in
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Speaker 10: these European countries and others, and the whole world can see.
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Speaker 3: It absolutely, and I think the Trump administration is watching
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Speaker 3: on very closely here now, the Democrats are coming out
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Speaker 3: in support of a pro Palestinian activist blamed for some
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Speaker 3: of the violent protests at Columbia University. The Trumpet administration
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Speaker 3: wants to deport this character, but the Democrats are fighting
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Speaker 3: for him to stay in the US. And earlier today
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Speaker 3: a federal judge did temporarily block Mumwood Khalil's deportation and
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Speaker 3: it's been arrested over the weekend by immigration agents. Kosher
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Speaker 3: I just cannot believe the Democrats would come out and
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Speaker 3: try to protect this guy from deportation. I mean, how
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Speaker 3: crazy can you get? Just as far as electoral popularity
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Speaker 3: you are in politics, you do want to appeal to
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Speaker 3: the American people, and we know where they stand on
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Speaker 3: this to try to stop the deportation of someone who's
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Speaker 3: coming to the country. He's causing trouble. We've seen the
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Speaker 3: violent protests at Columbia University. What's the thinking behind this
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Speaker 3: with the Democrats?
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Speaker 10: So politically it's not a good move, and you know
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Speaker 10: there are all these memes all over the internet where
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Speaker 10: they wouldn't stand for the boy who was fighting cancer
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Speaker 10: for fifteen year old doing chand or for Lake and
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Speaker 10: Riley's parents or family members and others, and then over
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Speaker 10: here going to town on this. So politically, I think
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Speaker 10: it is a big problem because they're.
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Speaker 3: Out of step with what people want.
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Speaker 10: Where this issue gets a little bit interesting, and it's
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Speaker 10: actually one of the fewer Trump's bases splitting a little bit,
19:37
Speaker 10: is what are the two forces at place? So one
19:39
Speaker 10: is zero tolerance for illegal behavior by immigrants, certainly illegal immigrants,
19:44
Speaker 10: but also legal immigrants like this person, and really using
19:47
Speaker 10: the full weight of deportation power to deport them. The
19:50
Speaker 10: other is free speech, which is a big value obviously
19:53
Speaker 10: in the Trump base, And there are questions about legally
19:56
Speaker 10: what did this person actually do and if it was
19:58
Speaker 10: just limited to speech and so as vile and unhinged
20:01
Speaker 10: as they may be, that is constitutionally protected right either us,
20:05
Speaker 10: or did he do something more? Does he have some
20:07
Speaker 10: actual ties where he was eating in a batting hamas
20:09
Speaker 10: in which case he violated some terrorism laws and that
20:12
Speaker 10: would be the thing. So I think the judge is
20:15
Speaker 10: trying to adjudicate that this judge might have something to
20:18
Speaker 10: stand on, unlike all the other unhinged judges who are
20:21
Speaker 10: just rushing to challenge Trump's Article two powers.
20:24
Speaker 3: But we shall see.
20:25
Speaker 10: We probably don't know everything that the government has on
20:27
Speaker 10: this person. And I think this story will continue to develop.
20:29
Speaker 3: But that comparison between them taking a stand for this
20:33
Speaker 3: character but not people who've been victims of their policies,
20:38
Speaker 3: like in Riley's parents, I mean, it just speaks volumes
20:42
Speaker 3: and kosher. The Democrats are in all sorts of troubled
20:45
Speaker 3: political analysts. Van Jones summed up their current situation on CNN,
20:51
Speaker 3: and he is from the left, but he is sane
20:53
Speaker 3: enough to realize this.
20:55
Speaker 13: Can we talk about Ukraine?
20:58
Speaker 1: Look, man, we're screwed.
21:00
Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know.
21:01
Speaker 13: No Democrats don't know what to do.
21:02
Speaker 3: This is a nightmare.
21:04
Speaker 13: The Democratic Party is going through a massive set of
21:08
Speaker 13: internal crises. You have a party that got trapped two ways.
21:13
Speaker 13: One defending a broken status quo that nobody likes because
21:20
Speaker 13: they thought that Donald Trump was going to make it worse.
21:21
Speaker 13: But when you're defending a status quote, you're going to
21:24
Speaker 13: lose and then offending most people in the country, calling
21:27
Speaker 13: everybody's sexist and racist and transphobic and every other name,
21:31
Speaker 13: and then say please follow us. That's not a good
21:33
Speaker 13: strategy for it.
21:35
Speaker 3: Makes an obvious point there, But they are in a
21:37
Speaker 3: crisis at the moment and they've got to get there
21:40
Speaker 3: act together because the midterms aren't that far white. You
21:43
Speaker 3: need to be prepared.
21:45
Speaker 10: He evangelines can be siged from time to time. You
21:47
Speaker 10: see the talk Mber of honesty over there, and I
21:51
Speaker 10: think it had worked for them for a period of time.
21:53
Speaker 10: Trying to paint to the other side is irredeemable, going
21:56
Speaker 10: back to Hillary Clinton and everything they did against Trump,
21:59
Speaker 10: as well as maybe defending this idea that the other side,
22:03
Speaker 10: the Democrats side, is more normal and less chaotic, and
22:06
Speaker 10: that whole line worked for period. So they keep doing that,
22:09
Speaker 10: but it didn't this time. It didn't last very long.
22:12
Speaker 10: They've been beaten back and they don't really seem to
22:14
Speaker 10: have a leader too Like right now, it's hard to
22:16
Speaker 10: know who is the leader of the Democrat Party that
22:18
Speaker 10: can corral them and heard the cats and align.
22:21
Speaker 3: On one message.
22:21
Speaker 10: So they're out there in the wilderness, but not for long.
22:24
Speaker 10: I'm sure they will regroup and come back with a vengeance.
22:27
Speaker 3: Koshigeta, Thanks so much for your time. Tonight, still to come,
22:31
Speaker 3: Lefty's losing it. You're watching the Raida Panty Show, and
22:42
Speaker 3: it's time for lefties losing it. We've got something unbelievable
22:46
Speaker 3: from the ladies of the view shortly. But let's start
22:49
Speaker 3: with a woman who the media told you was qualified
22:52
Speaker 3: to be president, the woman they painted as competent and inspiring.
22:57
Speaker 3: Here is Kamala being Kamala.
23:00
Speaker 14: So we did door dash because I wanted Doritos, and
23:07
Speaker 14: it was they were about the Red Carpet Partners Bobster.
23:10
Speaker 14: Nobody wanted to leave to go to the grocery store,
23:13
Speaker 14: so it was door dash.
23:15
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking about this about so I.
23:19
Speaker 3: Was willing to give up whatever might be the tracking.
23:24
Speaker 4: Of Karmala Harris's particular fondness for nacho cheese Doritos for
23:30
Speaker 4: the sake of getting a big bag of Dorito's as
23:33
Speaker 4: I watched the oscars.
23:36
Speaker 3: That is just my numbing. I think I lost twenty
23:40
Speaker 3: to thirty IQ points just just listening to that. Now,
23:44
Speaker 3: let's hear from aging British pop star Bob Geldoff. He
23:48
Speaker 3: goes on an unhinged trump rant, spelling all sorts of
23:52
Speaker 3: lies and hyperbole and nonsense about Donald Trump and Elon
23:56
Speaker 3: Musk literally taking food from the mouth of starving children.
24:01
Speaker 3: He says, he really is too old to be this thick.
24:04
Speaker 15: Creeps like Trump and Musk have sucked out all of
24:07
Speaker 15: that generosity out of the air. You know, the most
24:11
Speaker 15: powerful man on the planet, the richest man in the world,
24:16
Speaker 15: have decided to take away any of the life support
24:19
Speaker 15: systems of the most fun of the poorest children on
24:22
Speaker 15: the planet, quite literally, take the last food from their mouth,
24:25
Speaker 15: quite literally, take the bandages of the gang raped woman
24:29
Speaker 15: quite literally, stop aids five minute eights sufferers getting their
24:34
Speaker 15: things so they will die in a matter of weeks.
24:37
Speaker 2: This is the usaid. This is Trump and Musk and
24:40
Speaker 2: all those other creeps.
24:41
Speaker 3: Now, if you're ever in any doubt about just how
24:44
Speaker 3: intellectually baron, how exceptionally stupid the view co hosts are,
24:49
Speaker 3: then watch this performance from Woopee Goldberg re named Karen Johnson,
24:54
Speaker 3: as she explains to transactivist still in Mulvainy, she doesn't
24:58
Speaker 3: understand why anyone could have any issue with men in
25:02
Speaker 3: women's sports.
25:03
Speaker 16: I wanted to ask you because there's been all of
25:05
Speaker 16: this debate about whether transgender athletes should be able to compete,
25:11
Speaker 16: and last week California Governor Gavin Newsom said that he
25:15
Speaker 16: thinks that trans athletes competing in girls and women's sports
25:20
Speaker 16: was deeply unfair.
25:22
Speaker 3: Oh, she wasn't done yet. Then she explains that men
25:26
Speaker 3: don't really have a physical advantage when competing in women's
25:29
Speaker 3: sporting competitions.
25:30
Speaker 16: When you come in and you say, oh, you know
25:33
Speaker 16: these men, these are men, you know, competing competing against women,
25:39
Speaker 16: you're assuming that the women are weak and.
25:42
Speaker 3: Just can't do anything.
25:45
Speaker 11: Have you seen female athletes?
25:48
Speaker 3: They know what they're doing.
25:51
Speaker 16: So I'm not sure what's going on or why this.
25:54
Speaker 3: Is an issue. I think even Dylan Mulvaaney was wondering
25:57
Speaker 3: what the hell she was talking about there. If you
26:00
Speaker 3: don't know what's going on, woopee, you don't know why
26:02
Speaker 3: this is an issue. Have you been hiding in a
26:05
Speaker 3: cave for the past decade when this issue has been
26:08
Speaker 3: discussed at length? You think just because female athletes are
26:11
Speaker 3: stronger and faster than the average female, that they have
26:15
Speaker 3: no issue competing with male bodies. Are you crazy? You
26:19
Speaker 3: do realize that female gold medalists at the Olympics would
26:23
Speaker 3: be beaten easily by the top high school track athletes.
26:28
Speaker 3: Easily by the top high school male track athletes. I
26:31
Speaker 3: should add, let's not forget Australia's a national soccer team.
26:35
Speaker 3: The Matilda's lost seven nil to a bunch of high
26:38
Speaker 3: school boys from Newcastle, the under fifteen boys.
26:41
Speaker 17: That was.
26:42
Speaker 3: As for Dylan mulvainy, I'm starting to feel a little
26:45
Speaker 3: bit sorry for him, even though he's trying to inject
26:48
Speaker 3: himself into International Women's Day. This isn't what real women do.
26:53
Speaker 3: It's a good time. God, this is best in my life?
26:59
Speaker 2: Have you international?
27:00
Speaker 18: Good?
27:01
Speaker 7: Be'st the International Women's.
27:02
Speaker 19: Day everb I got to do my hormone injection, which
27:05
Speaker 19: we love the hormones, but we do not like the.
27:07
Speaker 3: Nausea that accompanies the hormones.
27:09
Speaker 11: And I have a long drive to the airport, so
27:12
Speaker 11: wish you luck.
27:15
Speaker 4: That's going to be rough.
27:16
Speaker 3: Now the leftist media, activist and propagandas who championed Joe
27:21
Speaker 3: Biden for years are finally telling the truth about what
27:25
Speaker 3: sort of man he really is. Listen here as Chuck
27:28
Speaker 3: Todd tells us what he really thinks.
27:32
Speaker 1: And when I realized that not one, not two, but
27:36
Speaker 1: three Biden children, and I count Bo's widow. We're all
27:43
Speaker 1: dealing with drug problems. In twenty eighteen and Joe Biden
27:47
Speaker 1: and Joe Biden said, now's a perfect time to run
27:49
Speaker 1: for president because who cares about our family. I have
27:52
Speaker 1: to tell you something about Joe Biden. There's this mythology
27:56
Speaker 1: about Joe Biden that the man cared so much, told
28:01
Speaker 1: that he was this incredible family man, and instead what
28:05
Speaker 1: he really was was a craven political animal that never
28:09
Speaker 1: it was desperate. The man considered or ran for president
28:12
Speaker 1: every four years he was eligible. You know why he
28:15
Speaker 1: didn't run in seventy six. He wasn't thirty five. Yet,
28:18
Speaker 1: that's totally reason.
28:19
Speaker 3: I don't recall hearing that frankness, that honesty during Chuck
28:24
Speaker 3: Todd's many many years at NBC. But he wasn't just
28:28
Speaker 3: Chuck Todd. Then Stage four teds sufferer Steve Schmidt joined in,
28:33
Speaker 3: saying that he doesn't even trust Joe Biden's children to babysit.
28:39
Speaker 19: What I said to the group that made them gasp,
28:41
Speaker 19: I said, I have five kids, and if I had
28:44
Speaker 19: to leave twelve year old alone, how to leave the
28:48
Speaker 19: kids with someone, and my choices are Hunter Biden for
28:53
Speaker 19: Ashley Biden or Don Junior and Eric and Laura's Trump
29:01
Speaker 19: Like I'm dropping the kids off at Don and Eric
29:05
Speaker 19: in Laura's house.
29:07
Speaker 3: Wow, if only these two were forthcoming with this sort
29:10
Speaker 3: of information when it actually mattered. Joining me now is
29:14
Speaker 3: comedian and host of Prime Time with Alex Stein on
29:17
Speaker 3: Blaze TV. Alex. The cowardice of these leftist activists, some
29:22
Speaker 3: of the masquerading as journalists, is astounding. What's even the
29:25
Speaker 3: point of saying all this?
29:27
Speaker 20: Now, Well, if you look at Chuck Todd, I believe
29:30
Speaker 20: he worked at NBC for eighteen years, and I think
29:33
Speaker 20: that he was let go in January because you know,
29:36
Speaker 20: obviously he was trying to keep the mainstream narrative that
29:40
Speaker 20: Joe Biden was competent for office, when in reality, everybody
29:43
Speaker 20: knew that Hunter Biden was a drug addict. Everybody knew
29:46
Speaker 20: that Joe Biden was basically a deadbeat dad for lack
29:49
Speaker 20: of a better word, and they had to lie to
29:51
Speaker 20: try to paint a picture that he was a competent president.
29:54
Speaker 20: And now Chuck Todd is realizing, listen, I lied. My
29:57
Speaker 20: integrity is totally gone. So he's doing this to save face,
30:02
Speaker 20: and that's why he's all of a sudden changes tune.
30:05
Speaker 20: So I didn't blame the first time, and really, I
30:07
Speaker 20: honestly don't trust what he's saying now either.
30:11
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because it wasn't just that Joe Biden was competent,
30:14
Speaker 3: that was the only lie they were telling. They were
30:15
Speaker 3: also telling us he was this warm, loving father and
30:20
Speaker 3: grandfather who let's not forget that he doesn't even acknowledge
30:25
Speaker 3: one of his own grandchildren, little girl down in Arkansas.
30:29
Speaker 3: Now to the Democrats, new darling, she's the new AOC.
30:32
Speaker 3: So you might have a crush on her because I
30:34
Speaker 3: know you like AOC, Alex And she's been saying plenty
30:38
Speaker 3: about immigration, illegal immigration. She doesn't even think it's illegal.
30:44
Speaker 6: It is not a criminal violation to enter the country illegally.
30:49
Speaker 3: It's not a criminal, it's crime.
30:51
Speaker 13: It's not a crime.
30:52
Speaker 3: It's Jasmine Crockett. She's pining herself quite a profile, and
30:56
Speaker 3: she's dead wrong because it is a crime. You think
30:59
Speaker 3: a congressman would know that here is borders, Tom Homan,
31:02
Speaker 3: is it.
31:03
Speaker 5: A crime or a misdemeanor to enter the country illegally?
31:08
Speaker 18: It's a crime to under country illegally and in the
31:10
Speaker 18: title United States called thirteen twenty five. And it's really
31:13
Speaker 18: really pathetic that any member of Congress don't understand what
31:16
Speaker 18: the law says. They wrote, the law they enacted, the
31:18
Speaker 18: law are signed by president is a criminal violation in
31:21
Speaker 18: the country illegally, if you've ventured a big prior, it's
31:24
Speaker 18: a felony.
31:25
Speaker 3: Alex. The Democrats continue to rail against the deportation policy.
31:30
Speaker 3: It's hardly a winning strategy, no way read.
31:35
Speaker 20: It's definitely not a winning strategy. And you know, Jasmine
31:37
Speaker 20: Crockett is actually the representative of the district that I
31:40
Speaker 20: have in office in so it's really sad that you
31:43
Speaker 20: even got elected. It's obviously it's in South Dallas. It's
31:46
Speaker 20: a predominantly African American lower income area. Not realizing that
31:49
Speaker 20: just coming into the country illegally is a crime. That
31:52
Speaker 20: shows you that you don't have to pass an IQ
31:55
Speaker 20: test to become a congresswoman. You can just win based
31:57
Speaker 20: on either the color of your skin or because of
31:59
Speaker 20: the that you act. And you know, you win an
32:02
Speaker 20: election in a place where the voters are going to
32:04
Speaker 20: be favorable to you, But it does not mean that
32:06
Speaker 20: she's smart and I think that the more she talks,
32:08
Speaker 20: the more we realize, you know, how dumb Jasmincrorackett really is.
32:12
Speaker 20: And I hate to call her that, but I think
32:14
Speaker 20: it's just obvious with her statements saying that when a
32:16
Speaker 20: person comes into our country illegally, they're not committing a crime.
32:19
Speaker 20: It's just a very basic simple concept. You come in
32:22
Speaker 20: here illegally, that's a crime. You're a criminal. I don't
32:25
Speaker 20: know why this is so complicated and hard for them
32:26
Speaker 20: to understand.
32:29
Speaker 3: I don't know if she's dumb or not, but she
32:31
Speaker 3: may have watched AOC say plenty of dumb stuff and
32:35
Speaker 3: see her profile rise and and her influence within the
32:38
Speaker 3: party increase. So maybe she just wants to replicate that.
32:42
Speaker 3: We'll see now the Left cannot help themselves, Alex. There
32:46
Speaker 3: appears to be no self control, no sense of decorum.
32:49
Speaker 3: What chare is Activists harass Vice President jd Vance as
32:54
Speaker 3: he walks with his three year old daughter near their
32:57
Speaker 3: home in Ohio. He very graciously offers them a few
33:01
Speaker 3: minutes of his time to talk about what's troubling them,
33:05
Speaker 3: if they will leave him and his daughter alone.
33:08
Speaker 17: Dam And, I told you, I talked to you to
33:18
Speaker 17: have people run around in yell and they talk to you.
33:21
Speaker 20: And I had said, if I talked to him, you.
33:23
Speaker 11: Know, it's three old god alone, and you see me accident.
33:26
Speaker 6: So I'd like you guys respect.
33:28
Speaker 3: The Vice President tweeted, saying that it was a mostly
33:32
Speaker 3: respectful conversation. But if you're chasing a three year old
33:36
Speaker 3: as part of your political protest, you're a shit person.
33:39
Speaker 3: This is not the way Alex to convince politicians, and
33:42
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the way to convince the general
33:45
Speaker 3: public about the righteous righteousness of your cause if you
33:50
Speaker 3: do that, because no one wants to see a three
33:53
Speaker 3: year old be distressed by this sort of behavior.
33:57
Speaker 20: Oh exactly, you're exactly corrected. And you know there's a
34:01
Speaker 20: saying when you give him a mouse of cookie, you
34:02
Speaker 20: got to give him milk.
34:03
Speaker 7: You know.
34:03
Speaker 2: JD.
34:04
Speaker 20: Vanswers more than gracious to even give them a moment
34:06
Speaker 20: to speak and have a conversation with him. And of
34:09
Speaker 20: course they can't just have the conversation and be over.
34:12
Speaker 20: They have to start attacking him. They have to make
34:14
Speaker 20: the three year old feel uncomfortable because some of these people,
34:17
Speaker 20: they're incapable of actually having a civil conversation, and just
34:20
Speaker 20: the fact that the sitting vice president is willing, you know,
34:23
Speaker 20: to sit there and talk to You would think, even
34:25
Speaker 20: if you disagree with him ideologically, you would show him
34:28
Speaker 20: enough respect considering the office that he's holding, and then
34:32
Speaker 20: forget about it. You can be disrespectful to the vice president,
34:35
Speaker 20: but to his three year old daughter. It just shows
34:37
Speaker 20: that these people have no empathy whatsoever other than you know,
34:42
Speaker 20: what they personally feel. They care about feelings, just their feelings,
34:46
Speaker 20: not that of a three year old or the vice
34:48
Speaker 20: president who's being gracious and actually having a conversation. I
34:51
Speaker 20: don't know any other politicians on the left that if
34:54
Speaker 20: you actually talk to him, and I've tried to read it,
34:56
Speaker 20: you know that I try to talk to these politicians
34:57
Speaker 20: outside of you know, Congress and stuff, they don't ever
34:59
Speaker 20: want to have conversation, and Jady Vance did. So that
35:02
Speaker 20: shows you that he is a guy that does have
35:04
Speaker 20: integrity and that is actually willing to speak to his
35:06
Speaker 20: constituents and try to help and represent them the best
35:10
Speaker 20: way that he can.
35:12
Speaker 3: Now you've chased down plenty of politicians from both sides.
35:16
Speaker 3: I've seen you go after Dan Crenshaw, Republican from Texas,
35:23
Speaker 3: and that's been quite colorful at times. But if there
35:27
Speaker 3: was a child present, would you still pursue them with
35:31
Speaker 3: a camera. I mean, I just think if there's a
35:33
Speaker 3: little child that age, a toddler, you just walk away.
35:38
Speaker 3: It's just not the time.
35:41
Speaker 20: You're absolutely right, And in no instance have I ever
35:44
Speaker 20: confronted a politician while they were with their daughter or child.
35:47
Speaker 20: I mean, it's unfair to the kid, and you're gonna
35:49
Speaker 20: make them feel uncomfortable. So, like I said, Jadi Vance
35:52
Speaker 20: was more than gracious enough to even speak with him.
35:55
Speaker 20: But these people are just so insane that they can't
35:59
Speaker 20: even rational lies. How big of a deal it is
36:02
Speaker 20: that they're speaking to the sitting based president and show
36:04
Speaker 20: him respect and his three year old daughters from.
36:07
Speaker 3: Respect now staying in your home state of Texas or
36:13
Speaker 3: drag performances have been banned from eleven campuses of Texas
36:20
Speaker 3: A and M University. This is quite a momentous announcement
36:25
Speaker 3: because though you would think a college like this in
36:29
Speaker 3: Texas would be fairly conservative, these college campuses, almost all
36:34
Speaker 3: of them are not. They're just hotbeds of left wing activism.
36:38
Speaker 3: So to have drag performances effectively banned from college campuses.
36:44
Speaker 3: What are your feelings about this, Alex.
36:46
Speaker 20: Well, I'm really happy, and of course, you know, I
36:48
Speaker 20: believe in the First Amendment. I believe in the freedom
36:51
Speaker 20: of speech. But when it comes down to a Texas
36:53
Speaker 20: public school, which Texas A and m is, we don't
36:56
Speaker 20: need our school system trying to spread GBTQ ideology to
37:04
Speaker 20: young people on campus. It's just unnecessary for the States
37:07
Speaker 20: to sponsor that. And Donald Trump spoke out against it,
37:10
Speaker 20: you know, the Attorney General Kim Paxson spoke out against it.
37:12
Speaker 20: So if these people are saying we don't want this
37:15
Speaker 20: on our state public schools, thank goodness that finally somebody's
37:18
Speaker 20: putting their foot down and stopping it. Because when it
37:20
Speaker 20: comes to all the discussing books that are in public
37:22
Speaker 20: libraries that parents are constantly fighting against, you know, in college,
37:26
Speaker 20: these are adults. This is still a public school. Our
37:28
Speaker 20: public funds are going to this, and really I don't
37:30
Speaker 20: want my public funds going to drag eyland so more
37:34
Speaker 20: kids can get indoctrinated into this, you know, trans ideology.
37:40
Speaker 3: Well, we say it in Australia from very young from
37:44
Speaker 3: sometimes preschool all the way through the university. This sort
37:48
Speaker 3: of left wing activism that is evident in the curriculum,
37:52
Speaker 3: it's on the campus. It's just shoved down the kids'
37:55
Speaker 3: threats from a young age through to their pros graduate
38:00
Speaker 3: degrees if they go that far. How much of a
38:03
Speaker 3: change has there been under the Trump administration because he's
38:06
Speaker 3: made it clear that funding decisions are going to be
38:10
Speaker 3: attached to these policies, and a lot of the universities
38:15
Speaker 3: have resisted, but others like Texas, A and M are
38:19
Speaker 3: changing their ways.
38:22
Speaker 20: Well, Rita, as you just showed earlier, it's making monumental
38:25
Speaker 20: change because you have the governor of California, Gavin Newsom,
38:28
Speaker 20: who's getting railroaded, and a lot of people like Whoopy
38:30
Speaker 20: Goldberger complaining because he said that it's unfair for biological
38:33
Speaker 20: women to have to compete against transgender men, which is
38:36
Speaker 20: not a crazy concept, but according to Whoopy Goldberg, she
38:38
Speaker 20: just can't wrap her head around the fact that men
38:41
Speaker 20: are bigger and stronger on average and would have a
38:44
Speaker 20: physical advantage in a physical sport. So listen, this issue
38:49
Speaker 20: is huge. Donald Trump is waking up people like Gavin
38:52
Speaker 20: Newsom where they're having to have intellectually honest conversations with
38:54
Speaker 20: people like Charlie Kirk, and it's changing the narrative. And
38:57
Speaker 20: I know that you're not anti trans I'm not anti transit,
39:00
Speaker 20: staying trans people of this, but there needs to be
39:01
Speaker 20: a system where women can compete fairly against other women,
39:05
Speaker 20: and we don't need young kids being indoctrinated into what
39:09
Speaker 20: I call a transcort. So I think that the tide
39:11
Speaker 20: is shifting and we're heading in the right direction, but
39:14
Speaker 20: you know, we still have a far away to go.
39:18
Speaker 14: Now.
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Speaker 3: This next story, Alex, reminded me of you instantly, because
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Speaker 3: I think this is the sort of shenanigans you would
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Speaker 3: have pulled as a youngster. Have a look at this video.
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Speaker 3: A child called the cops on his own mum, asking
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Speaker 3: for her to be locked up because she ate all
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Speaker 3: the ice cream. Watch this future, Alex Stein, I, oh,
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Speaker 3: it's the police. They came for real. Yeah, we have
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Speaker 3: to just come back and make sure everything's okay. What
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Speaker 3: to do? Did you call the police?
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Speaker 19: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Why?
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Speaker 10: Kill?
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Speaker 20: Why do you want mommy to go to jail?
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Speaker 3: She hate you? Or is it because you didn't get
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Speaker 3: ice yet?
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Speaker 7: I think.
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Speaker 20: So is their way? You're upset?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I sorry to yell at them. So
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Speaker 3: not calling nine one one unless it's a real emergency. Okay,
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Speaker 3: Oh dear, he needs a spanking, that boy, if you
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Speaker 3: believe in that sort of thing, Alex, that four year
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Speaker 3: old from Wisconsin, he did get his ice cream. The
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Speaker 3: police officers came back with some ice cream for him.
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Speaker 3: Just a nice way to end our little segment.
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Speaker 20: No, it was great, thank you to those cops. But
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Speaker 20: you gave me PTSD.
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Speaker 3: You remember.
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Speaker 20: I remember when I learned what nine one one was.
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Speaker 20: I called it and they came to my house and
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Speaker 20: read to talk about a spanking. I still have bruises
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Speaker 20: from that spanking.
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Speaker 3: And you would have deserved that. Alex Stein, thank you
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Speaker 3: so much for your time tonight.
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Speaker 20: Thank you reader. Always a pleasure.
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Speaker 3: Still to come. The new South Wales Minister for Women
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Speaker 3: flounders when asked about male bodies in women's sport. Stephanie
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Speaker 3: Bastian has the detaiss welcome back joining me now. Is
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Speaker 3: the head of advocacy at Women's Forum Australia. Stephanie Bastian Stephanie.
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Speaker 3: Conservative influencer Charlie Kirk had an interesting conversation with the
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Speaker 3: Democrat governor of California Gavin Newsom, and the man who
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Speaker 3: leads one of the most left wing states, shocked many
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Speaker 3: by admitting that trans inclusion in sport, well, that's a
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Speaker 3: nice way of putting it. Having male bodies in women's
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Speaker 3: sport is an issue of fairness and it's a major
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Speaker 3: contradiction of what he's done as governor. Let's have a listen.
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Speaker 7: It's like you right now should come out and be like,
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Speaker 7: you know what, the young man who's about to win
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Speaker 7: the state championship in the long jump in female sports,
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Speaker 7: that shouldn't happen. You as the governor should step out
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Speaker 7: and say no, no, And I appreciate and like, would
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Speaker 7: you do something like that? Would you say no men
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Speaker 7: in female sports?
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Speaker 17: Why?
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Speaker 9: I think it's an issue of fairness. I completely agree
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Speaker 9: with you on that. So that's easy to call out
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Speaker 9: the unfairness of that. There's also a humility and grace.
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Speaker 9: You know that these poor people are more likely to
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Speaker 9: commit suicide, have anxiety and depression, and the way that
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Speaker 9: people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that
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Speaker 9: I have a hard time with as well. So both
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Speaker 9: things I can hold in my hand. How can we
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Speaker 9: address this issue with the kind of decency that I think,
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Speaker 9: you know, it's inherent in you, but not always expressed.
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Speaker 3: So Stephanie talks about fairness there, but then straight away
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Speaker 3: he goes into the guilt tactics, talking about humility and
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Speaker 3: grace and punching down, and it's the usual tactics we
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Speaker 3: hear from the left to try to guilt women into
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Speaker 3: thinking that if they take a stand for their own rights,
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Speaker 3: that they somehow being harsh and not being compassionate towards
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Speaker 3: people who are struggling.
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Speaker 21: Absolutely, I think you've captured the issue really well. I
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Speaker 21: agree with him. People with struggling with gender dysphoyer deserve compassion, respect, support,
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Speaker 21: and all the rest of it. But the activists that
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Speaker 21: are demanding women except men and women's sports the risks
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Speaker 21: the injury, that is a totally different cattle of fish.
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Speaker 21: And I think that he is relying on that argument
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Speaker 21: to justify his inability his activity in addressing this issue.
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Speaker 21: I think it's good that he can see common sense,
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Speaker 21: but it's just not enough. Women need protection. We need
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Speaker 21: to separate the emotion from the reality, particularly for women,
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Speaker 21: and women deserve to have their sex based rights.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Now let's turn our attention to New South Wales,
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Speaker 3: where the Minister for Women, Jodie Harrison, struggle to answer
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Speaker 3: questions about women's safety in sport and the inclusion of
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Speaker 3: men identifying as women.
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Speaker 22: It's our view that sports themselves, that the sporting codes themselves,
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Speaker 22: our best, are in the best place to make decisions
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Speaker 22: about the inclusion of trans people in their codes and
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Speaker 22: whether they can play in men's teams or women's teams.
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Speaker 22: It's an issue if it's an issue of physical capability,
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Speaker 22: which is part of what the argument is about. I
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Speaker 22: think you respect you're not answering the question.
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Speaker 9: You know, how many women who are transitioning to men
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Speaker 9: actually participate in men's sport?
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Speaker 3: Very few?
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Speaker 22: I would consider that to be the case. Yes, I
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Speaker 22: don't have the figures for that.
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Speaker 3: She doesn't know. I mean, really, it just shocks me continuously,
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Speaker 3: people who are in these roles Minister for Women seem
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Speaker 3: to be completely ignorant about these sorts of issues that
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Speaker 3: have now been discussed and debated for years. How can
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Speaker 3: that be, Stephanie, It's just absurd.
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Speaker 21: But I don't think she's reflective Ofustralians and even perhaps
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Speaker 21: her base. I mean, we work with a range of
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Speaker 21: women across the political spectrum on this issue and the
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Speaker 21: ones that feel most politically homeless of the ones from
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Speaker 21: the left, and i'd go as far as the Green
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Speaker 21: as they've also had a rift in this issue. What's
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Speaker 21: happened is I think traditional left landing parties like the
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Speaker 21: Labor Party have traditionally championed or chouted to champion minority groups,
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Speaker 21: but in recent times that has turned to privileged minority groups.
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Speaker 21: Well funded lobby groups like the LGBTI movement, like the
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Speaker 21: sex industry, even abortion rights have come in and they'ves
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Speaker 21: with their power, have taken over a lot of these
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Speaker 21: political parties. And if you have a look at the
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Speaker 21: Labor Party for example, they don't have a conscience boat
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Speaker 21: on these issues. So if you want to get ahead
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Speaker 21: in the Labor Party, you have to subscribe to all
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Speaker 21: these issues. If you want an example of a dissenter,
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Speaker 21: you look at the way that Labor and p Rosie
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Speaker 21: Duffy was treated in the UK when she came out
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Speaker 21: in favor of women's.
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Speaker 3: Sex based rights.
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Speaker 21: They've traded their traditional base out for the elite to
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Speaker 21: the expensive women. But I think they will go down
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Speaker 21: in history as both traders to women and political cowards.
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Speaker 3: And the point there also is that, no, it's not
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Speaker 3: an issue of women identifying as men in men's sport.
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Speaker 3: Men don't ever complain about that because men have the
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Speaker 3: physical advantage, and there wouldn't really be any woman who
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Speaker 3: would be identifying as a man and who'd be taking
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Speaker 3: the place of men winning their scholarships, winning their places
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Speaker 3: in national teams. It is a one way traffic, and
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Speaker 3: you would think a Minister for Women would be across that. Finally, Steph,
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Speaker 3: the erasure of women, the very word women in the
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Speaker 3: medical profession continues. You pointed out that a study on
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Speaker 3: steel birds in the British Columbia Medical Journal refers to
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Speaker 3: mothers as birth parents and fathers as support people. In
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Speaker 3: the same paragraph, the study authors note that all the
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Speaker 3: birth parents identified as female, well that's good, and all
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Speaker 3: the support people identified as male. Why do we see
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Speaker 3: this sort of language in the medical profession. I mean
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Speaker 3: that just undermines their whole notion that they're above this,
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Speaker 3: that they're all about facts and the best possible care,
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Speaker 3: rather than getting hijacked by this sort of activism.
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Speaker 21: Absolutely, and I think it does enormous damage to the
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Speaker 21: trust in the medical system that they have been politically
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Speaker 21: hijacked in this way. It is absolutely disrespectful to women,
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Speaker 21: but overall it damages their integrity absolutely.
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Speaker 3: Stephanie, thank you so much for your time tonight, and
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Speaker 3: that's all the time and we have I'll see you
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Speaker 3: tomorrow night at eleven. Newsnight is up next