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Five Incredible Onboard UFO Encounters · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and thank you
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  Speaker 1: for joining me for a new episode of UFOs and
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  Speaker 1: the Paranormal. Today, I'm going to be talking about my
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  Speaker 1: favorite type of UFO encounter, and that is an onboard
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  Speaker 1: UFO experience. These types of encounters actually contain all different
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  Speaker 1: types of UFO encounters, sightings, landings, face to face encounters
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  Speaker 1: with humanoids, and of course going inside in extraterrestrial craft.
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  Speaker 1: The title of today's episode is five incredible onboard UFO encounters.
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  Speaker 1: These cases are, of course very controversial. Skeptics do not
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  Speaker 1: like them, but the fact is there are so many
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  Speaker 1: of them. The evidence for them is overwhelming. I have
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  Speaker 1: no doubt that this is happening all over the world.
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  Speaker 1: There are so many cases. And what's interesting is these
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  Speaker 1: are the kinds of cases that really hold the most information,
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  Speaker 1: really have the potential to answer all of the questions
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  Speaker 1: we have surrounding this subject. Who are these visitors to
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  Speaker 1: our planet, where do they come from, why are they here,
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  Speaker 1: and so forth. So I've got five cases today which
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  Speaker 1: are really interesting and unusual because each of them is
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  Speaker 1: very extensive. The witnesses were able to hold fairly long
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  Speaker 1: conversations with the ets and got all kinds of information
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  Speaker 1: about them. So these five cases range from nineteen seventy
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  Speaker 1: to two thousand and eight, coming from a number of
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  Speaker 1: different locations on our planet, including Spain, Ukraine, Poland, also Brazil,
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  Speaker 1: and one in the United States, specifically Wisconsin. A couple
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  Speaker 1: of these are multiple witness cases. In every single one
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  Speaker 1: of these cases, these people were affected profoundly physically, emotionally,
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  Speaker 1: and so forth. So yeah, these are really astonishing cases,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it behooves everyone to take these kinds
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  Speaker 1: of cases seriously, if only for the fact that there
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  Speaker 1: are so many of them. Each of them do contain
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  Speaker 1: details that corroborate each other, and each contain unique details
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  Speaker 1: as well, as we shall see. But let's just start
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  Speaker 1: with our first case, which I call time Doesn't Exist.
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  Speaker 1: This is not a very well known case, but very extensive.
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  Speaker 1: This occurred sometime in April nineteen seventy in Madison, Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 1: The witness is anonymous, as a lot of people who
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  Speaker 1: have this experience elect to be, But his case, I
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  Speaker 1: think is an important one because he got so much information.
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  Speaker 1: It's really an amazing case. This case comes from Warren Smith.
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  Speaker 1: He first wrote about it in the May nineteen seventy
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  Speaker 1: three issue of Saga magazine under the pseudonym Eric Norman,
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  Speaker 1: but later published it in his book The Book of Encounters.
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  Speaker 1: The witness is a small town lawyer. He's anonymous but
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  Speaker 1: uses the pseudonym Raymond Shearer. He was thirty two years
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  Speaker 1: old at the time of his encounter, and when it occurred,
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  Speaker 1: he had just held a late night meeting with a
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  Speaker 1: client at a restaurant in Madison, Wisconsin. It was after midnight.
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  Speaker 1: This was one evening in April nineteen seventy As he
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  Speaker 1: drove out of Madison, and he was about twenty miles
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  Speaker 1: out of town when he noticed a strange light hovering
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  Speaker 1: above the highway ahead of him. He assumed it was
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  Speaker 1: just a helicopter and didn't really pay much attention to it,
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  Speaker 1: but as he drove under it, he did notice that
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  Speaker 1: his car radio filled with static, The car itself began
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  Speaker 1: to heat up, and he also developed a sort of
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  Speaker 1: instant headache. He slowed down, grabbed a bottle of aspirin
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  Speaker 1: from the glove compartment and took two of them, and
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  Speaker 1: just kept driving. He was about ten miles from his
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  Speaker 1: house when, for some reason, as he says, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why. He slammed on the brakes and turned off
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  Speaker 1: on a dead and remote gravel road. There were no
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  Speaker 1: structures on this road, and driving down it, he came
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  Speaker 1: over a hill and had to slam on his brakes.
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  Speaker 1: He actually skidded to a stop about fifteen feet from
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  Speaker 1: a large disc shaped craft sitting in the center of
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  Speaker 1: the road. You could see it had a row of
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  Speaker 1: lights kind of glowed with a blue green color. Immediately,
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  Speaker 1: his car engine died, his headlights and dashlights went out,
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  Speaker 1: and his radio stopped playing. He was very scared, as
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  Speaker 1: Raymond says, I started to whimper and cry. I was
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  Speaker 1: scared to death because this was something I didn't know about.
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  Speaker 1: I remember trying to snap down the locks on the
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  Speaker 1: doors of the car. I saw some shadowy forms walking
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  Speaker 1: towards the car. Then I must have blanked out. The
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  Speaker 1: next thing Raymond knew he was driving home. The sun
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  Speaker 1: was just coming up. For some reason, it didn't quite
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  Speaker 1: dawn on him that he had experienced hours of missing time,
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  Speaker 1: and really, at first, all he could recall was seeing
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  Speaker 1: this initial bright light above the highway. Arriving home, he
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  Speaker 1: still had a headache. He lay down on the couch,
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  Speaker 1: and although he was tired, he couldn't sleep because he
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  Speaker 1: kept hearing the strange rattling sound. Finally, his wife woke
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  Speaker 1: up and began fixing breakfast, and this is when Raymond
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  Speaker 1: noticed a welt on the back of his neck, just
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  Speaker 1: above the spinal cord, and by noon it had blistered up.
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  Speaker 1: He said it was very sore and painful, so he
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  Speaker 1: went to the doctor, who was very puzzled by the
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  Speaker 1: appearance of small perforations on Raymond's skin where this welt was, and,
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  Speaker 1: as Raymond says, he said, it was the strangest thing
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  Speaker 1: he had ever seen. He put some salve on it.
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  Speaker 1: The welt gradually went away. But following this, Raymond's personality
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  Speaker 1: experienced a big change. He became nervous and anxious. He
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  Speaker 1: began neglecting his law practice and instead, weirdly, he found
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  Speaker 1: a self becoming obsessed with politics. He had no idea why,
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  Speaker 1: as Raymond says, it seemed important for me to get
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  Speaker 1: into politics and was never interested in political office before
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  Speaker 1: that time. Things soon became worse. His headaches continued. He
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  Speaker 1: began to argue with his wife and his law partner,
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  Speaker 1: and it got so bad that. Finally, his father convinced
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  Speaker 1: him to go visit a psychiatrist. Several weeks of therapy
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  Speaker 1: seemed to make no progress, but then the psychiatrist decided
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  Speaker 1: to try hypnosis to find the reason for Raymond's anxiety,
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  Speaker 1: and it worked. This broke down the wall of amnesia
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  Speaker 1: and Raymond immediately began having flashbacks of this light over
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  Speaker 1: the highway, the craft in the road. Both the doctor
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  Speaker 1: and the patient were absolutely shocked to find out that
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  Speaker 1: the UFOs were the cause of Raymond's anxiety. So his
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  Speaker 1: first impulse was to go buy a bunch of UFO
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  Speaker 1: books and magazines read up on this subject, but the
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  Speaker 1: doctor advised against it, told him not to do this,
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  Speaker 1: and instead the doctor educated himself about the UFO subject
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  Speaker 1: and only then did they continue the hypnosis sessions, and
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  Speaker 1: using hypnosis, this entire onboard experience was revealed. Under hypnosis,
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  Speaker 1: Raymond recalled seeing this craft on the road in front
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  Speaker 1: of him and the car stalling. He saw a figure
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  Speaker 1: appear at the driver's side, and, as Raymond says, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't get much more than a glimpse of him. He
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  Speaker 1: looked at me for a second. There was a blinding flash,
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  Speaker 1: then I opened the door and stepped out. He could
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  Speaker 1: see that this man was holding a strange instrument up
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  Speaker 1: to his neck, told him not to be alarmed, that
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  Speaker 1: it wouldn't hurt, but would help him to talk to them.
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  Speaker 1: He felt a strange tingle over his body, and, as
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  Speaker 1: he says, I felt funny for a minute. Then the
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  Speaker 1: fear seemed to leave me. My hands stopped trembling, my
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  Speaker 1: head cleared up. I wasn't so confused. A warm feeling
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  Speaker 1: came over my body, and I felt these people were
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  Speaker 1: my friends. So Raymond now saw that there were five figures,
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  Speaker 1: three of which were collecting samples of sticks and plants
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  Speaker 1: and other things from the ground and putting them in boxes.
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  Speaker 1: As Raymond says, they worked very fast. They seemed to
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  Speaker 1: be picking up as many different types of things as
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  Speaker 1: they could. He noticed that one of the figures stood guard,
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  Speaker 1: while the other, who was holding the instrument up to
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  Speaker 1: his neck, seemed to be in charge. He says these
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  Speaker 1: figures looked largely human, but sort of reminded him of
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  Speaker 1: ancient Egyptians. Said they had long, flatish faces, slanted eyes,
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  Speaker 1: very thin lips more like a slit than a regular mouth,
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  Speaker 1: he said, and very light colored skin, said they were
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  Speaker 1: about five to five and a half feet tall, had
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  Speaker 1: very strong bodies, larger chests than most humans. They all
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  Speaker 1: wore coveralls and helmets, so they never blinked, and as
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  Speaker 1: he said, when they looked at me, they stared straight
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  Speaker 1: into my eyes, very unusual eyes, he said. Now Raymond
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  Speaker 1: could see that the craft looked like metallic aluminum and
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  Speaker 1: was he estimates about one hundred to one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: twenty five feet in diameter, was resting on tripod. Landing
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  Speaker 1: gear was saucer shaped. It had what looked like an
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  Speaker 1: antenna in the rear, and while the beings were collecting specimens,
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  Speaker 1: Raymond did look at his watch and saw that it
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  Speaker 1: was one forty seven in the morning. Now, seeing this,
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  Speaker 1: leader asked him what type of time he used. Raymond
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  Speaker 1: began to explain the concept of days, months, and years,
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  Speaker 1: and the being's reply was that humans needed to learn
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  Speaker 1: how to handle time correctly. He said that time as
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  Speaker 1: we know it doesn't exist, and that they the ets,
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  Speaker 1: have the ability to distort time, speed it up, slow
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  Speaker 1: it down, or even stop it. This point, the leader
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  Speaker 1: put his hand on Raymond's shoulder and led him to
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  Speaker 1: the craft. He saw that there was a ladder leading
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  Speaker 1: up into this craft and shaking. Raymond was told to
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  Speaker 1: go inside, which he did. Inside the craft, he was
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  Speaker 1: amazed to see that it looked much bigger on the
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  Speaker 1: inside than the outside, so it was very cold inside
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  Speaker 1: and quite uncomfortable. So then they had him hold a
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  Speaker 1: strange metal rod and stand in front of this blank
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  Speaker 1: screen and explained that they were recording his vitals, his
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  Speaker 1: body temperature, his brain waves, his weight, his height, and
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  Speaker 1: other data about him. He said that the people inside
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  Speaker 1: the UFO quote seemed like pretty nice people, but he
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  Speaker 1: wondered if he would survive this experience. The unusualness of
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  Speaker 1: this experience and the environment around him was causing him
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of anxiety, as he says, I didn't feel
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  Speaker 1: right while I was in there because everything was different.
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  Speaker 1: There was something funny about the ship. I couldn't feel
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  Speaker 1: or hear the sound of my feet when I walked around.
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  Speaker 1: This sort of made me feel like the ship was
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  Speaker 1: a ghost or something, but it was definitely metal. He
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  Speaker 1: saw that there were very few furnishings other than some
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  Speaker 1: chairs and what looked like desks, all of which were
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  Speaker 1: made out of the same material as the craft. He
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  Speaker 1: did see other strange computer like machines. The leader said
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  Speaker 1: that these machines were used to guide the craft. He
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  Speaker 1: saw no windows or portholes. This confused him, but the
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  Speaker 1: leader said that they used screens to see outside, and
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  Speaker 1: then told him that they were able to maneuver their
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  Speaker 1: craft using Earth's gravitational field and could use gravity to
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  Speaker 1: draw them towards the planet or repel them away from
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  Speaker 1: it using a form of anti gravity, and actually told
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  Speaker 1: him that scientists on Earth were getting very close to
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  Speaker 1: developing and understanding this. They explained that they came from
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  Speaker 1: another galaxy. They told them all kinds of things. They said,
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  Speaker 1: water has an energy in it that we don't fully understand.
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  Speaker 1: They explained that they can use energy to render their
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  Speaker 1: ships invisible. They said that many different types of ets
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  Speaker 1: are visiting Earth, and that others visit more often than
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  Speaker 1: they themselves do. This of their mission was a scientific
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  Speaker 1: expedition to determine the characteristics of planet Earth. And he
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  Speaker 1: said that humans are very violent and have actually been
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  Speaker 1: very hostile towards them, that they have on occasion lost
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  Speaker 1: some of their crew to conflicts with humans. And he
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  Speaker 1: said that while humans are advanced in some areas, they
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  Speaker 1: are very backwards in other areas, and he said that
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  Speaker 1: humans are not ready for the ets to reveal themselves
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  Speaker 1: to humanity. At one point, they put a cone like
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  Speaker 1: device on Raymond's head, which they said would give him
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  Speaker 1: great knowledge. This turned out to be the most unpleasant
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  Speaker 1: part of his experience for him. He said he felt
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  Speaker 1: a great pressure in his head and felt almost as
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  Speaker 1: though his brain was being scrambled. As he says, it
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  Speaker 1: was the most painful thing I've ever experienced. At one point,
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  Speaker 1: they told him that he should get into politics, as
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  Speaker 1: they needed a friend in politics, and they told him
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  Speaker 1: that they would meet again. Finally, they took him off
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  Speaker 1: the craft. Raymond asked them for a memento or a souvenir,
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  Speaker 1: and they did not respond, but told him to remain
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  Speaker 1: in his car until the craft took off. The et
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  Speaker 1: returned into the craft, the latter retracted. The craft made
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  Speaker 1: a loud, buzzing noise and took off at a diagonal,
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  Speaker 1: taking about thirty seconds to disappear. Immediately, Raymond's car started up,
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  Speaker 1: his lights came back on, and he drove off. No
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  Speaker 1: Raymond has not reported any further contacts or if he
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  Speaker 1: did he's not talking about them, but he did say
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  Speaker 1: that he feels there is probably still more to the
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  Speaker 1: experience that then he can at this point remember, but
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  Speaker 1: he absolutely believes it did happen and that the hypnotic
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  Speaker 1: recall is accurate, as he says, I know now that
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  Speaker 1: it was real. I felt the metal on that ladder.
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  Speaker 1: These people are real because they squeezed me on the arm.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that some day, somewhere we will meet again.
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  Speaker 1: Raymond agreed to come forward with his story only on
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  Speaker 1: the promise of complete anonymity, but he thought it was important,
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  Speaker 1: as he says, I want the material to be published,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't want to be exposed as a UFO nut.
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  Speaker 1: I would lose my entire practice if this came out now.
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  Speaker 1: The researcher Warren Smith says that he was given full
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  Speaker 1: access to the hypnosis tapes in doctor's notes, and Raymond
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  Speaker 1: himself says he still considers a career in politics, but
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  Speaker 1: has not yet done so. I think you'll agree that
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  Speaker 1: was a very extensive encounter. The witness learned all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of information, and while he did find it quite frightening, overall,
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  Speaker 1: it was a benevolent experience. He did not believe that
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  Speaker 1: these ets were hostile in any way, and as you
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  Speaker 1: can see, it did affect him very profoundly. It changed
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  Speaker 1: his life completely. It was very difficult for him initially,
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  Speaker 1: and like many many witnesses, he kept quiet for quite
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  Speaker 1: some time. I like the case also because it was
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  Speaker 1: thoroughly researched. Has doctor reports. He did go under hypnosis,
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  Speaker 1: but again we called much of this, you know, without
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  Speaker 1: the aid of hypnosis, including this initial sighting and the landing.
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  Speaker 1: But most of the onboard experience, of course, was recovered
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  Speaker 1: under hypnosis. This is not always the case. For example,
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  Speaker 1: this next case was fully conscious and this is a
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  Speaker 1: truly interesting and unusual case. There's not a lot like
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  Speaker 1: this in the UFO literature. I call this next one
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  Speaker 1: we are your Friend. This occurred on February twenty eight,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four, in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. It is
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  Speaker 1: a single witness case. The witness did allow his first
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  Speaker 1: name to be used. It was thoroughly researched, but this
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  Speaker 1: one has some of the most unusual details of any
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  Speaker 1: case I've ever heard. His very unusual onboard encounter was
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  Speaker 1: first investigated by researcher Fernando Cleito Nunez Perera, and was
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  Speaker 1: later re researched by Irene Granci. They both interviewed the
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  Speaker 1: witness first hand, and the witness's name is Durant Nello Ferraz.
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  Speaker 1: He was born in nineteen fifty six and he was
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  Speaker 1: eighteen years old when his encounter occurred. He said it
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  Speaker 1: was seven thirty p m. On February twenty eighth, nineteen
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  Speaker 1: seventy four. He was alone in the kitchen of his home,
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  Speaker 1: his family's home, when without warning, he found himself, as
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  Speaker 1: he says, somewhere else. He found himself in this squarish room,
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  Speaker 1: color of smoked glass. There were no doors or windows,
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  Speaker 1: a cone shaped ceiling above him. He immediately heard a
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  Speaker 1: voice speaking in his native language of Portuguese, and it
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  Speaker 1: said stay calm, we are your friends. Now realize that
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  Speaker 1: this voice was coming from a flickering box like device
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  Speaker 1: in the corner of the room. At this point, he
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  Speaker 1: saw that the watch he was wearing had stopped working
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  Speaker 1: and read seven point thirty one PM. Suddenly, without warning,
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  Speaker 1: an opening appeared on the blank wall, and he says,
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  Speaker 1: a very large egg shaped device moved towards him. Was
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  Speaker 1: the same smoky glass color as the room he was in,
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  Speaker 1: and at the same moment the object came towards him.
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  Speaker 1: A yellow beam of light shone down on him from
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  Speaker 1: the cone shaped ceiling, and this voice again repeated for
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  Speaker 1: Durrant to remain calm, And to his utter shock, a
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  Speaker 1: human figure stepped out from this egg shaped object and
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  Speaker 1: revealed itself to be Durrant's double, a when of himself
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  Speaker 1: looked just like him. Now, the voice from the box
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  Speaker 1: instructed him to touch the man before him. What he did,
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  Speaker 1: verifying this was a flesh and blood human being, or
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  Speaker 1: at least looked like one, durrance twin patted him on
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  Speaker 1: the back and said, keep calm, wish me a good journey,
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  Speaker 1: for I do not intend to harm anybody. At that point,
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  Speaker 1: the twin walked through the wall and on the wall
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  Speaker 1: Durrant could now see a screen, and to his amazement,
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  Speaker 1: it showed his twin, now in his own home, apparently
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  Speaker 1: impersonating him. Durrant was allowed to see his twins' interactions
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  Speaker 1: with the people around him. Now, those who knew Durrant
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  Speaker 1: could see he was behaving differently. He was normally a
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  Speaker 1: very friendly and affectionate person, whereas this twin was not
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  Speaker 1: quite the same way. He behaved very gruffly towards Durrant's
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  Speaker 1: sister and also to the driver who came to pick
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  Speaker 1: up Durrant and drive him to his family's company, where
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  Speaker 1: he worked at that time. So this twin seemed to
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  Speaker 1: be ignorant of social interactions and behaviors, at least to
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  Speaker 1: some degree. He did not know how to handle money
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  Speaker 1: or fill out an invoice. So intensely curious as you
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  Speaker 1: can imagine about what was happening, Durrant asked out loud,
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  Speaker 1: what do you want with me? And a voice replied,
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  Speaker 1: we need to conclude some tests. We do not harm anybody.
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  Speaker 1: The less you say about this the better. However, we
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  Speaker 1: should like to make it known that we are friendly
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  Speaker 1: and only wish to help. So he asked, who are you,
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  Speaker 1: what is your world like? The answer was, we cannot
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  Speaker 1: tell you who we are. Our world is different from yours.
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  Speaker 1: So he continued to ask questions, asking if they were
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  Speaker 1: planning to invade Earth, to which a voice replied, we
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  Speaker 1: are not invaders. We work for the good of the
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  Speaker 1: human race. Durrant asked why he had been chosen, and
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  Speaker 1: they said, you are different from others and have feelings
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  Speaker 1: similar to our own. He asked about food, and they
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  Speaker 1: said he will not feel hungry. He did ask them
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  Speaker 1: do they know the existence of God, and the answer
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  Speaker 1: was clearly so. Of course, He is everywhere everybody knows him.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: So still asking questions, he asked about this twin and
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: was told that he was actually one of the ets,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: so he's still on the craft. And while he was
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: on there, this voice told him that it was his
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: duty to assist his twin functioning on Earth, and Durrant
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: found that by looking through the screen at his twin,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: he could not only see his twin, but look through
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: his eyes. On occasion, though, the screen was turned off,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: and this left Durrant ignorant of what his double was doing.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: And as it turned out, this double was showing all
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: kinds of unusual characteristics, seemed to be very concerned about
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: plants and trees, even mending the limb of a broken tree,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: but seemed to treat those around him roughly and with
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: ill manners. So all this time Durant was still in
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: the same room. He saw that it did have a
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: shelf a small bed, but no pillows or blankets was
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: fixed to the wall There was also a small movable stool,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: so the temperature of the room was normal. He noticed
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: that although he spent many hours in there, he never
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: felt tired or hungry. He wasn't sure how long he
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: was in there, but it appeared to be at least
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: one full day. Now. When the screen went dark, he
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: became bored, and at one point he wished he had
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: something to read, and immediately the small shelf glowed right
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: around the edges in the newspaper, A couple of books
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: and an issue of Spider Man appeared on the shelf.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Now Durrant later learned that this issue of Spider Man
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: had not even been released yet. On another occasion, he
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: felt lonely for his girlfriend. The shelf glowed again and
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: he was given a letter from her, which had apparently
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: just arrived at his home. So he did lay down
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: a few times on this little bed, but never slept.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: He never ate or went to the bathroom, and suddenly
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: he found himself back in his kitchen, and it was
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: exactly twenty four hours later. His watch, which had stopped,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: immediately started working again, and speaking with his family, he
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: learned that they had been very puzzled by his gruff
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: behavior over the last twenty four hours. It's not clear
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: in the report whether or not he told his family
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: about his experience, but he did inquire about his twins
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: behavior and learned some interesting things. It turned out that
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: his twin had taken a taxi and in the back
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: seat had found a lady's handbag which had been left there,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: and he returned to the owner. So Durrant followed up
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: on this and learned that yes, this had in fact happened.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: He learned that one of his coworkers was shocked when
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: his twin appeared behind him as though walking through the wall.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: He learned that his twin had spent some time reading
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Durrant's own books about Brazilian history, science, geography, several newspapers.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: He was seen collecting flowers, leaves and taking pictures of
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Rio de Janeiro, which he apparently took with him back
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: into the craft. Durrant did agree to be interviewed, saying quote,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: people will not believe my story, but I would like
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: you to publish this statement of theirs. We are friends
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: and only wish to help now. When Irene Granchi interviewed
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: him later, he did agree to be interviewed, but told
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: her that he now just wanted to forget about the experience.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Irene says her impression of him was that he was
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: quote cordial and polite. He didn't confirm all the details
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: reported by the previous investigator, Fernando Plato Nunez Perira, but
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Durrance said that he now has no interest in speaking
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: about the encounter. How crazy is that I mentioned being
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: taken on board to craft and seeing what amounts to
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: your twin your double. You know that is unusual, certainly,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: but it's not unique. I do know of a number
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: of other cases where people have had this sort of experience.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: It's hard to say exactly what's going on here, but
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: certainly fascinating. This case is also very interesting because like
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the others, he did get a lot of information and
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: was able to hold conversations and also felt ultimately that
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: this was a positive experience. Though as I said, currently
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want to talk about it, just wants to
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: forget about it and lead a normal life. But kudos
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: to him for going public, allowing his real name to
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: be used, and subjecting himself to the rece search from
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: professional investigators. So there's a lot to unpack with all
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: of these cases, and I think it's a really fascinating account.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Now I'd like to move to the next one. This
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: is another single witness case where the person who had
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: this experience did elect to remain anonymous, but finally did
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: come forward said he only wanted his story published after
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: he passed away, which I think is kind of interesting.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: But I call this one the people of Earth aren't ready.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: This one occurred on December twenty five, nineteen seventy six,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: in Marita, Spain, and like the other cases, this was
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: very difficult, quite traumatic for the witness, pretty scary. Ultimately,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: he decided no, this was not a negative experience, though, yeah,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: it was really quite unusual and he had a difficult
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: time processing. It did affect him physically, as we see
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: in all of these cases, and it's such an extensive case.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: The messages he received are just so fascinating. I think
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: they'll find it a really interesting case. This case comes
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: from researcher Pedro Maria Fernandez and was published in a
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Spanish language book Those Visitantes descono Sidos The Unknown Visitors.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: The witness is known only by his initials FA. He's
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: a fine arts professor and he agreed to have his
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: story told again only after he passed away. He was
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: born in nineteen thirty I'll just call him Francisco. This
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: is a pseudonym. He was forty nine years old at
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: the time of his encounter. It was the morning of
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: December twelveth, nineteen seventy six, as Francisco and two of
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: his students were walking near the Madrid Casis railway outside
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: of Marita, Spain, and they were out hunting birds. Suddenly
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: they came upon a very thick hatch of fog. Was
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: weird because it seemed to be rectangular in shape, three
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: hundred feet long six feet high, and was situated among
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: some olive trees. And no sooner did they notice this
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: wall of fog when it advanced towards them and enveloped them,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: and it was so thick they could barely see each other,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: even though they stood right next to each other. So
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: they were unnerved by this, and they walked out of it.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: And suddenly they broke free of this fog back into
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the sunlight. But all of them felt it was strange,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and they talked about it until around noon, at which
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: point the boys departed for home. Francisco continued walking and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: suddenly felt real tired and lay down next to a tree.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: He said, tiredness just completely overcame him, and he fell
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: instantly asleep. Now at one point sometime later, he opened
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: his eyes and was puzzled to see darkness surrounding him,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: but he was too tired to wake up, that is
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: until he felt this strong pain in his shoulder. Now
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: coming fully awake, he saw that it was in fact nighttime,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: and he was shocked to see this tentacle like appendage
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: gripping his arm. He got up and tried to free himself.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: He dropped his gun, found out he could only walk
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: a few feet, and reaching down to grab this appendage,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: he said it felt weird, spongy, flexible, smooth. Looking around him,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: he saw a light to his right and saw that
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: this appendage was coming from a dark egg shaped object
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: in a horizontal position. It was one hundred and twenty
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: feet long forty five feet high, and standing next to it,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: he saw the silhouette of a tall, slender figure. So
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: this thing that was holding his arm was attached to
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: this object. Thoroughly frightened, he felt a very sharp pain
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: in his chest and passed out. Upon awakening, he could
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: hardly believe his eyes. He was in a large room,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: lying down on a kind of stretcher and what he
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: first thought was a hospital room. He said. The room
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: was completely silent, the temperature was comfortable. He saw weird lights,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: strange looking alien instruments around him. One of these devices
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: looked like a large kind of a compass with weird
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: symbols on it, and it began to emit noise which
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: sounded to Francisco like voices speaking a foreign language. Then
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: it became quiet, and suddenly colored lights began flashing in
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the room. So Francisco called out to see if there
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: was anybody in this room, and this is when he
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: heard a voice speaking in Spanish. Stay calm, we'll go
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: see you now. Don't be scared. Stay calm. So Francisco
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: was still wondering if he might be in a hospital,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: but about eight minutes later, a door slid open and
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: three figures entered the room. He assumed at first these
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: would be human doctors, but they clearly were not human,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: so he now realized that he wasn't in a hospital,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: that he must be inside this spacecraft. These three beings,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: he said, looked humanoid. They were just over five feet tall,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: identical in appearance, but they had hairless heads, a very
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: tall forehead along large nose, thick lips, with the top
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: lip being bigger than the bottom, and they had large,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: protruding egg shaped eyes. He never once saw them blink.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: He said, their skin was scaled like a reptile. Each
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: was wearing tight fitting, shiny, silky looking gray jumpsuits, so understandably,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Francisco became quite nervous. Then that all changed when one
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: of the beings began to speak to him in a
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: very kind manner. They surrounded him on the stretcher and
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: began to examine him, touching when the head, face and chest.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: They appeared to take his pulse. One of them took
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a device from the wall and placed it on his chest.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: He said it was heavy and had a small screen
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: on the front of it, so this exam was quite brief,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: after which Francisco started to ask questions. He first asked
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: why the beings had taken him, when, where they come from,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: and where they going to take him away. They said no,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: he was free to choose what he wanted to do,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: but that they had needed to do this physical exam.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: They said that they were responsible for the strange fog
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: he had seen early that morning, and that they examined
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: him at that time. They said that their ship was
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: made to travel specifically to Earth, but came from a
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: larger mother ship which was big enough to block the
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: light from the sun. They said it could travel at
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: great speed, and it took them only a few hours
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: to travel from where they came from to Earth. They
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: said that their own galaxy was flaring up, requiring them
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: to look for a new place to live. This point,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: they gave him a tour of the craft. They took
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: him to a room which contained various plants that they
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: were growing. They said that they had mixed these plants
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: without to enhance their vitamin content. They said their culture
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: was much older than human culture. At one point, they
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: gave him something to eat, a type of marmalade. They
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: gave him a red liquid and a hot broth and
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: told him that this would provide enough nutrition to last
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: a full day. They told him, actually that his heart
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: had failed and that was the reason they had taken
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: him on board and revived him. They said that they
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: were quote beings of light and benevolent in character. They
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: told him that humans were not benevolent and that if
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: humans attempted to destroy their own planet, they would prevent this.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: They told him that the compass like device was artificial
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: intelligence and controlled the ship, that it was an intelligent computer.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: He said that they had learned our language by tapping
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: into our own radio transmissions. At one point, Francisco asked them,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: why don't you teach what you know to the planet,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: and instead of the ets responding, the compass like device
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: replied and said, the people of Earth aren't ready to
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: receive us yet. If we do, we would trigger a
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: warlike action, which would require us to respond and cause
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: the deaths of many innocent people. We are looking for
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: a way to access your planet peacefully. You must serve
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: as a messenger transmitting what we have told you. They
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: told him that when he heard three beeping tones, that
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: would be the time for him to reveal his story.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: The ets then spoke and told him that the compass
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: like device actually prevented them from committing any warlike behaviors
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: on their part, and would actually self destruct if they
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: the ets exhibited any warlike behavior. They told Francisco that
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: they had placed a device in his body which would
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: facilitate their ability to contact him again. At one point
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: he did look out the window and saw stars in
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: what appeared to be another planet. At one point, the
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: room came dark and then lit up again, and the
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: ets said that there had been something above them that
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: necessitated then hiding their presence from it. So they said
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: that since he had now recovered from his apparent heart attack,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: when he fainted outside the craft, he would be returned.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: They took him outside of the craft and put him
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: back next to this tree, so it was still dark outside.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: They returned into the craft, which promptly rose upward, still
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: maintaining a horizontal position, and now made a sound, he said,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: like buzzing bees. Rose about twelve feet up, tilted diagonally,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: and took off at such great speed it became a
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: point of light in the sky and was gone. He
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: tried to check the time, but discovered that his watch
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: had stopped. He was dazed and disoriented, so he hiked
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: back into town. By the time he got there, dawn
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: was breaking. His family expressed alarm and concern that he
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: had not returned, and chided him from not informing them
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: that he was staying out all night, but he was
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: too tired In dazed to speak about what happened to him,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: He skipped breakfast went directly to bed. His family woke
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: him up around two pm. Immediately, Francisco stood up, screamed,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: and collapsed. So they rushed him to the hospital and
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: doctors had a hard time diagnosing him. They first thought
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: he might be suffering from gout, but further examination revealed
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: that he had a weak heart, so while he was
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: in the hospital, he actually slipped into a coma for
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: three days and then promptly woke up. Doctors performed x
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: rays which did reveal a quote foreign body in his chest.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Also when in the big toe of his right foot.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: The doctors told him that they planned to remove this
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: object inside his chest the next day, but right before
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: the operation, they x rayed him again and this foreign
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: body was gone. They did do an operation on his
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: toe and found this small object, as Francisco says, they
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: extracted a small object resembling a pellet. They asked me
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: if I knew its origin. I said I didn't. Then
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: two men came and, very astonished, took it away. Francisco
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: later learned that one of these was an American. He
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: asked for information about this object, but despite repeated requests,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: was never returned, and he was never told anything about it.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Doctors did tell him that his body showed evidence of
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: radioactive contamination. Francisco also noticed a mark on his arm
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: where this thing had grabbed him, but he says for
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: the next five years he suffered from undiagnosed illness that
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: actually left him unable to work. Doctors asked him repeatedly
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: if he had any idea what might be wrong with him,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: but Francisco professed ignorance and refused to tell them about
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: his UFO encounter. At one point, they gave him an EEG,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: which showed abnormal readings to a degree that for a
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: while it gave him the impression that his brain was inactive,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: which obviously was not accurate. So his health suffered. He
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: exhibited vision problems, mild diabetes, rheumatism, he had another heart attack.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: The mark on his arm, which was normally pink, would
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: sometimes become purplish, and whenever this happened, Francisco noticed a pattern.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: This was when his health problems would become exacerbated. So
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: doctors continued to ask him about the cause of his illness, saying,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: if you could help us by telling us what really
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: happened to you? Perhaps we could help you more effectively,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: but still he refused to divulge his ufoon en counter. Finally,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: he did hear those strange beeping noises, and this is
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: when he contacted researcher Pedro Maria Fernandez, and Francisco told
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Pedro that's why I called you so Francisco. It was
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: a first very tight lipped about what had happened to him,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: but later revealed the whole story to the investigator. Pedro
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: conducted an extensive interview with him, which he later published
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: in his book The Unknown Visitors. So there you go,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: another very extensive onboard experience where the witness was able
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: to hold long conversations with these apparent extraterrestrials. Really so
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: interesting because the details he received from them are details
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: that appear in so many different cases. Many ets have
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: said we humans are simply not ready for open official
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: contact because of our warlike ways. Primarily that's the reason.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: But so interesting makes me wonder how many people out
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: there never talk about these experiences because there's such a
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: hostile climate of skepticism and ridicule out there. I suspect
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: most people do keep silent here's another case. I like
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: this case a lot. It's a multiple witness case, super interesting.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: These witnesses were able to again hold long conversations, got
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: some very very interesting information from the ETS. I call
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: this one the most important attribute of matter. This one
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: occurred on September twenty, nineteen seventy nine, in the small
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: town of Stume, Poland, and yeah, a multiple witness case.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: One of the witnesses was a scientist, so he was
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: able I think, to ask some really interesting questions of
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: the ets. Both actually asked questions and got answers as well.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: And it being a multiple witness case always adds a
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: level of credibility and also sort of corroborating their experience.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: This is another encounter that occurred in this same exact
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: area one year earlier, So yeah, I think you'll find
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: this one particularly interesting. This case was thoroughly investigated by
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Polish Muffon representative Emilio Popik and was published in the
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: August nineteen eighty issue of the Muffan Journal. Was also
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: researched by others. This is a very interesting double witness,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: fully conscious case of an onboard UFO encounter. It occurred
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: around nine pm on September twenty, nineteen seventy nine. The
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: two witnesses were Miroslaw Gorowski he's an electronics engineer, and
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: his friend Christoph Kobas, he's a theater instructor. They were
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: working in Murislav's garden at his home located not far
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: from Senki Wiksas Street in stum Poland. At the time
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: of the encounter, Miroslaw was rinsing off his shovel and
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Christof had stepped into the garden gazebo to light a
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: cigarette and when suddenly Miroslaw heard a strange sound and
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: at the same time felt an alarming pressure and almost
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: a choking sound in his throat. Looking up, he saw
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: this silver, metallic kind of delta shaped craft floating at
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: very low elevation above him, and his first thought was
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: that it was an airplane about to crash, and he
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: screamed out, threw himself to the ground and covered his
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: head with this shovel to protect himself from what he
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: was sure was going to be an explosion. Now, at
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: the same time, Christoph heard Miroslaw yelling and came running
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: out to see what was wrong, and to his shock,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: he saw his friend lying on the ground, and above
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: him was a large object surrounded by what looked to
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: him like a ring of thick white fire, and it
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: was slowly coming lower and lower down. At this point,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the environment suddenly became deathly quiet, and this object lowered
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: to a height of about twenty feet they estimate. Overhead,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: they could now see that were shaped kind of like
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: two triangles facing each other, with the bases facing each
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: other and the apexes at opposite ends. This was connected
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: by a structure shaped kind of like a plus sign.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: You can see they're drawing here. It was silver gray,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: about sixty feet long, bigger than their entire garden. But
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: at this point the object began to spin in place
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: around its axis and now took on the form of
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: a disc shaped craft mirror slow got up from the ground,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: and together the two men stepped closer and looked up
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: at this object. At this point it became very bright,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: and both men immediately heard quote a terrifying and unbearable
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: high frequency. It was sort of echoing in their heads,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: they said, And at the same time they found themselves
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: illuminated by the light from this craft, and immediately engulfed
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: by a sort of dense, milky pink, white fog. Both
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: men found themselves unable to Moveislaw said he had had
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: the shovel in his hand, but now it was gone.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Now at this point, Miroslaw said, all his fear just
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: left him and was replaced by an almost euphoric feeling.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: He felt a strong force pressing down on him, and
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: this was followed by the sensation of going up an
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: elevator at very high speed. Christophe said that at this
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: point his legs began shaking. He felt this strange force
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: taking over his body. He looked over at Miroslaw and
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: saw that his face was distorted and his knees were bent,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: as if under the force of great gravity. And suddenly
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: he realized that he was in a different place, no
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: longer in the garden, put inside this sort of foggy realm.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: That there were three cuboid or prismatic forms appearing around him.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: He actually leaned on them and felt that they were
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: solid but had a soft surface, And suddenly he felt
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: almost like he was sitting in a comfortable armchair, and
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: as soon as he did so, he started to receive
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: telep pathic communications. All of these images entered his mind.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: He said, there were various formulas, equations and symbols that
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: appeared to be about mathematics, physics, and chemistry. He said
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: it felt as though his mind had been taken over,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: and he said he was quote totally petrified. Meanwhile, Miroslaw
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: says that the strange force surrounding him had dissipated and
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: he realized he had been taken inside this craft. But
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: still saw the same weird fog around him, and he
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: was very curious, so he began asking questions. He said,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: who are you? There was no response. He said what
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: do you represent? Still no answer. Now, being an electronics engineer,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: he asked, what do you know about integrated circuits, transistors,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: semic conductors. This time the answer came back. They said
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: only one word, which was nothing. So he persisted with
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: his questions, asking them what do you know about matter
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: or what is matter? The answer was you are insightful.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: The most important attribute of matter is its ability to
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: pervade other matter. So, meanwhile, Christov still felt as if
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: he was sitting in this type of armchair, but now
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: instead of formulas and symbols and equations entering his head,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: he said, he saw a succession of various colors flooding
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: his mind red, black, blue, yellow, others, and finally gray.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: He felt almost as if his head was a computer,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: as thoughts and ideas flowed into his mind from some
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: external source. At one point, he looked down to see
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: what he was sitting on and was surprised to see
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: nothing there. He seemed to be levitating or floating, and
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: like Miroslaw, he did start asking questions, but they were
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: answered not by words, but by visual images. He said,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: at one point he saw people in very old fashioned
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: clothes and costumes from throughout ancient history. He looked over
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: at Miroslaw at one point and watched him turn and
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: lean out of this foggy area at a steep angle,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: as if leaning out of a window to watch something.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: So Miroslaw says that after asking about the state of matter,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: the ets asked him a question, saying, what is this?
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: And this is when Miroslaw leaned forward, exactly as Christop
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: had described, leaned through the fog outside and saw a
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: screen showing an image of his hometown, Stoom. From above,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: he could see the layout of the city, the main street,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the lakes around it, and he answered the question saying,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: this is a city housing estate. And the next thing
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: he knew. He was abruptly deposited back into his garden,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: dropping almost a foot to the ground. At the same moment,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Christoph felt as if the invisible chair he was sitting
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: on had been pulled out from beneath him, and he
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: promptly fell on his bottom and rolled onto his back,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: finding himself lying down in the garden. Both men immediately
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: stood up, absolutely astonished, and saw the lights from this
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: craft rapidly receding to the north. So they stayed at
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: the location until morning, talking about what had happened to them.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: The next day they did tell their friends, but were
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: not taken seriously. Both men said that afterwards they suffered
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: from headaches. Finally looking for help, they contacted researchers and
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: were subjected to numerous tests, both physical and psychological, from
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: a number of professionals. They were found to be sane, intelligent, stable,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: and honest. They did later agree to go under hypnosis,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: which did not reveal any new details, except for one
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: tiny bit of information they remembered being shown some strange symbols.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Investigators were absolutely convinced of the veracity of this case.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: One reason was because one year and two weeks earlier,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, there was another remarkable UFO event
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: in this same small town of Stum. At the time,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: there were three ambulance workers, doctor Barbara Piazza, the driver,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Grigor's Skosinski, and the stretcher bearer Andre ol Olejuk. They
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: just left the Stume hospital for the home of Elsbetto
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Pluta in the nearby town of Zutauka. She was in labor.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: So on the way there, doctor Barbara Piazza pointed out
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: a big red sphere in the sky and said, what
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: would that be. One of the men joked and said,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: it's the notorious UFO. This was a joke. They all laughed.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: They picked up their patient and headed back towards Stum.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: But as they passed the town of Calba, heading towards Stum,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: they saw that this object was not only still there,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: it was larger and getting closer and lower in the sky.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: For long they saw it was at tree top level,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: about six hundred feet ahead of them. Now, Gorigor's, who
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: is driving, accelerated the ambulance and said that it was
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: now pacing their vehicle. And as doctor Piazza says, it
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: seemed obvious to me that the object was under intelligent control.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: We just could not lose it. It was racing after us.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Then suddenly, as they reached the railway between Kowa and
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Stum as you see here, they saw this object directly
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: ahead of them, apparently sitting on or just above the road.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: It appeared to be about twenty feet wide, overlapping each
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: side of the road. They could see kind of curved
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: stripes on its surface. The patient Elsbetto also saw it,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: but as she says, I didn't pay much attention to
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: the thing. Let UFOs be UFOs. I thought my problem
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: was how not to bear my baby in the ambulance. So,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: with this object now blocking their forward progress, Doctor Piazza
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: exited the ambulance and approached the crossing stations guards. Their
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: names were Josepha Kaminska and Gabriella Ludorf. They were both
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: leaning out of the window. The doctor asked them, can
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: you see what I see? And they replied we were
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: looking at it for a while. So she radioed the
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: police and told them that the roadway was blocked and
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: could they please come. And the police asked of force,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: what's blocking the road and she answered, a ufo. So
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: at this point the object moved slightly up to the
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: top of a small hill next to the road. Meanwhile,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Elsbto's labor pains were coming at much shorter intervals, and
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: doctor Barbara Piazza knew that they were running out of time,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: so she ordered the ambulance driver to flash the ambulance
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: headlights at the object. He flashed twice, and immediately this
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: object moved forward a smaller and vanished. Was now four
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: point fifteen am. They drove the remaining ten minutes to
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: the hospital and just under two hours later, Elsvito Pluta
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: gave birth to her daughter Annetta. Now this case does
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: have some skeptics and debunkers because apparently there was a
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: full moon or near full moon on this night, and
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: they tried to explain away this sighting as the setting
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: of the moon on the road in front of them,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: disregarding apparently the fact that this object was described as
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: moving whole stating at one point showing curved bands on
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: it was blocking the road, had moved off, shrank and
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: disappeared in seconds. Nevertheless, some feel that the witnesses mistook
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: the moon for a UFO, but perhaps I didn't know
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: about this report from a gentleman who says that the
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: day before the situation described above, I saw a similar
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: ball over Rudlo near BRONNOI was evening but still very light,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: could have been around seven pm. Together with my late father,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: we went fishing with the attention of catching eel. We
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: stopped on the Paslica River opposite the pl M plant
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: in Braanniuau and started to unwind our rods, and at
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: that time we saw an orange ball with two dark
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: stripes in the sky was flying slowly from the southeast
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: to the northwest. It is difficult for me to assess
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: the size, distance from us and speed of this object,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: but we observed the object for about one or two
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: minutes until it disappeared behind the horizon. Later I read
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: about the same objects seen in the vicinity of Stum.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: How cool is that two people being taken on board
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: and given all kinds of scientific information and more. And
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: this second case with the crew of an ambulance having
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: a very very close encounter with AUFO that blocked their
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: path forward on the road. And I know there are
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: those skeptics who say that no, what they saw is
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: just the setting moon. To me, that makes me laugh
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: because I just cannot imagine a medical doctor and an
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: ambulance driver and the other medical worker being fooled by
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: the setting moon in front of them on the road. Besides,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: the details don't match that whatsoever. They said this outject
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: was moving around. They watched it shrink and disappear instantly.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think this was the moon, despite what the
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: debunkers say. But again I wasn't there, neither were they.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Only the witnesses truly know what happened. And that's true
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: of course. In this next case, which is perhaps one
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: of Ukraine's most famous onboard UFO encounters, this one got
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: quite a bit of publicity. I hadn't heard of it
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: until I started researching. This case. So interesting this one
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I call we won't do you any harm. This occurred
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: on January twelve, two thousand and eight, in Dubno, Ukraine.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: This is such a fascinating case because the entire family
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: saw the UFO prior to the husband and wife both
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: being taken on board. It's a very extensive encounter, containing
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: almost all the elements we see when people are taken
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: on board. Also super interesting is how they were affected physically,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: as we shall see very well investigated as well. This
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: one is really hard to deny that something truly amazing
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: happened to this Ukrainian couple was On January twelve, two
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: thousand and eight, the Voraneesky family of Dubno in the
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Rabno region of Ukraine experienced a really remarkable encounter. The
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: family consisted of thirty four year old Vladimir he's a
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: martial arts instructor a professional wrestler, and his twenty nine
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: one year old wife, Olga, and their three children, Vanessa
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: aged nine, Angelica age eight, and Arthur, who was one
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: years old. At this time, Olga was suffering from chronic colitis,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: which was causing her pain in her stomach area. She'd
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: had it for years now. On that day, Vanessa and
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Angelica had come home from a trip to the star
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: and told their parents that they had seen quote a
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: flying star. Their mother said they probably saw a satellite
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: or a plane. The girls protested and said this object
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: was actually flashing colored lights, and they insisted that their
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: parents come outside and see it for themselves. So they did,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: and they saw this strange object high in the sky
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: over the nearby river. They could see it moving and
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: changing shapes. In fact, Olga took a picture of it
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: on her cell phone. Then they went inside, but as
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Vladimir says, I saw what looked like three bullets hovering
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: in the sky. I thought they were satellites. That evening,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: in the middle of Vladimir was woken by a bright, white,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: violet light illuminating the interior of their house. He didn't
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: think much of it and went back to sleep, But
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: then Olga woke up and saw it too, so she
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: woke up Vladimir, saying, get up, there's something glowing over
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: the house. And their child, Angelica, saw it too. All
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: three of them now saw that the ceiling of their
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: bedroom had disappeared or had become completely transparent, and hovering
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: directly over their house was this huge disk shaped craft.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: So dressed only in their bedclothes, Vladimir and Olga ran outside, and,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: as Olga says, there was something like a platform hanging
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: one hundred meters above the house. A white and purple
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: light was streaming from it. We were so scared that
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: we couldn't move. Both Olga and Vladimir found themselves immobilized.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Olga said she thought herself being pulled upward, and Vladimir
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: says he actually saw his wife rising up in a
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: spiral motion towards the craft. He tried to catch her,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: but at the same time found himself suddenly inside this
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: strange white room with his wife. So this room was
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: totally white with smooth glass like walls, and there were
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: about a dozen short humanoids standing around them. He said
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: that they had large heads, smooth gray skin, three fingers
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: on each hand. They were wearing tight coveralls and what
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: looked like face masks. The only thing he could really
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: see were large black eyes. He did see one entity
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: was about six feet tall, twice the height of the others.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: He said, their legs looked really strange, and they seemed
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: to float around rather than walk. Immediately, Olga was put
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: in a chair, which she said was similar to one
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: scene in a gynecological office. Vladimir jumped up to protect
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: his wife, as he says, he hit quote an invisible wall.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: So concerned, he asked these figures what's going on and
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: they replied telepathically, nothing terrible. Soon you will be back home,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: and he said, I'm not satisfied with that. The ets
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: tried to approach him several times that Vladimir, being a
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: martial artist, used these techniques to keep them away. And
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: speaking telepathically in a mixture, he says, of Ukrainian and Russian.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: They spoke to him, asking him why he was resisting, and,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: as Vladimir says, the words sounded in my head. They
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: looked me in the eye. They were not aggressive or irritated.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: So after lashing out at them several times, he says,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: the ets placed this sort of metallic device on his
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: chest area and rendered him totally unable to move. They
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: indicated a table and told Olga to lie down on it, and,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: as Olga says, they were polite and addressed me as you.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: They asked how I felt and if it hurt. So
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: she laid down on this table and she watched as
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: these ets mysteriously opened up a wide incision into her abdomen.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: He said, she could see the inside of her body
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: and actually smell it. They began to poke around at
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: various organs using this strange pincher like instrument, and during
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: this time the figure spoke to her telepathically, calming her,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: asking her if she felt any pain, and they said,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: we wouldn't do you any harm, we just want to look.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: So Olga was struck by their polite bedside manner and
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: she says, I didn't feel any pain. I felt calm
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: and relaxed. It was as if they were taking tests.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: They used these strange instruments, which Olga found impossible to
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: accurately describe. Afterwards, they sewed up her stomach as mysteriously
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: as they opened it. There was no trace, no scar,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: of the incision. One of the ETS then spoke with Vladimir,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: telling him that their society was a collective and that
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: each person had strictly defined social roles. They told him
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: that they lived largely underground. Sometimes they communicated using images
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: rather than words, so it was hard for him to
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: understand some of this. Vladimir says that he was also
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: examined with a rod like device, which he says the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: ETS seemed to insert into his head, though this did
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: not cause him any pain. The ETS told him that
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: Olga's procedure has to be done, and they apologize for
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: the quote medical suffering and promised them in excursion a
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: voyage as compensation for this. At this point, they placed
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: both he and Olga in a smaller craft with a
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: transparent top. This left the mother ship, and Vladimir and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Olga were amazed to see stars and a strange form
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: planet below them. Vladimir asked them how they were able
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: to travel so quickly through space, and the ets said
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: that they did not exceed the speed of light, but
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: instead were able to tear space. Vladimir was unable to
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: fully understand all of this. One of the ets said
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: that Vladimir now knew too much and that they could
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: not return him. This made him very angry, and he
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: said he was not afraid of them, and this seemed
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: to make the ets act in a much more respectful manner.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: The Ets also told Vladimir that they were very interested
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: in humans because of their emotions, and, as Vladimir says,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: we are interesting to them because we have feelings fear, anger, love, joy.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: The aliens don't have that. At one point, they tried
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: to persuade Vladimir to procreate with one of their females.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: He refused because this female ET was not attractive to him.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: She had a bald head and he says, looked ugly.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: At this point, the ET changed its appearance into that
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: of a beautiful woman. Vladimir felt like they had read
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: his mind and were portraying his idea of an ideal woman,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: and he did find himself attracted to her and began
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: to move forward with this. But now, however, Olga saw
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  Speaker 1: this and protect The Ets seemed confused and asked her why,
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  Speaker 1: and she had to explain to them about her feelings
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  Speaker 1: of jealousy. The Ets were surprised at this and asked
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  Speaker 1: them how they survived with such emotions. So they told
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  Speaker 1: them all kinds of things, that there was a war
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  Speaker 1: going on in space. Vladimir asked about death, and they
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  Speaker 1: said that it did not exist, that it was misunderstood,
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  Speaker 1: and that it was just a transition into a different
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  Speaker 1: form of existence. They talked about God. They said that
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  Speaker 1: there were people on our planet against God and were
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  Speaker 1: trying to cover up information, and that the Earth would
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  Speaker 1: soon be destroyed. At some point, Vladimir and Olga looked
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  Speaker 1: outside and could see the craft moving back towards Earth.
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  Speaker 1: They said they were put on a smaller craft which
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  Speaker 1: went down and hovered above their home, and they were
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  Speaker 1: both deposited back into their beds via a beam of light.
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  Speaker 1: They woke up the next morning with headaches. Both had
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  Speaker 1: conscious recall the experience, but it was dream like and
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  Speaker 1: they wondered if they were going crazy, And at first
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  Speaker 1: they didn't talk about it, but later Olga did start
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  Speaker 1: talking about this quote strange alien dream she had, and
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  Speaker 1: Vladimir was shocked because she recalled the exact same details
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  Speaker 1: as his wife, and both realized that this was not
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  Speaker 1: a dream at all, it was real. In February two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and eight, Vladimir met with researcher Yuri Stepanov, who
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  Speaker 1: regressed them and Vladimir was able to recall some further
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  Speaker 1: details about the appearance of the craft and now it
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  Speaker 1: is able to become invisible by surrounding itself with the
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  Speaker 1: layer of plasma. And Yuri was absolutely convinced of the
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  Speaker 1: case and said, Vladimir is telling the truth, and there's
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  Speaker 1: good evidence that this did happen, because most incredible were
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  Speaker 1: the physiological effects which resulted from this encounter. Vladimir's hair,
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  Speaker 1: which was going gray, started to turn black again, and
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  Speaker 1: he said his physical powers of endurance increased greatly. As
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  Speaker 1: he says, it is easier for me to perform complex
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  Speaker 1: jumps and turns. I do not stretch my muscles. My
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  Speaker 1: skin has become much tougher. Olga is also physically affected.
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  Speaker 1: She was completely cured of her chronicolitis and she also
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  Speaker 1: acquired a very unique and strange ability. She says that
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  Speaker 1: by just placing the palm of her hand against her
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  Speaker 1: own forehead or the forehead of somebody else for about
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  Speaker 1: two or three minutes, she could make a drunken person
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  Speaker 1: completely sober. The couple did eventually go public, appearing on
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  Speaker 1: a TV show, and they were soon ridiculed by neighbors
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  Speaker 1: and other skeptics. They stuck to their stories. They did
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  Speaker 1: say that the ets told them they would return in
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  Speaker 1: two years, but whether or not this occurred has not
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  Speaker 1: been revealed. When Vladimir went on TV, this was in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twelve, he did subject himself to a lie detector test,
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  Speaker 1: which he passed with flying colors. He was telling the
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  Speaker 1: truth according to this lie detector test. Absolutely astonishing. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: both the husband and wife being affected physically in so
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  Speaker 1: many different ways, him becoming stronger, his gray hair turning
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  Speaker 1: brown again, she being cured of colliitis that she had
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  Speaker 1: been suffering from for years, and gaining other really amazing
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  Speaker 1: psychic abilities. These are patterns we see in a number
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  Speaker 1: of these cases. But how interesting being given a tour
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  Speaker 1: of the craft, you know, beyond that as well, and
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  Speaker 1: him passing a lie detector test. I think it's a
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  Speaker 1: really important case. I think all of these are these again,
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  Speaker 1: are the kinds of cases that really have so much information,
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  Speaker 1: have so much to teach us about who's out there
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  Speaker 1: beyond Earth. These cases, I think, teach us so much
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  Speaker 1: about science. I mean, the potential to really advance our
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  Speaker 1: knowledge on so many fronts. That's I think why these
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  Speaker 1: cases are so important and really should be taken seriously.
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  Speaker 1: To me, on board, UFO encounters represent the cutting edge
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  Speaker 1: of UFO research, and there would just wish more attention
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  Speaker 1: paid towards them, and that they were taken more seriously,
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  Speaker 1: and that the skeptics and debunkers would just at least
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  Speaker 1: take a look at the evidence, because often they don't.
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  Speaker 1: They will not even consider that these cases might be valid.
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  Speaker 1: But to me, there are so many that that alone
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  Speaker 1: is the best evidence of this. It's not just one
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  Speaker 1: or two people reporting this, or ten or twenty or
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  Speaker 1: one hundred, it's thousands upon thousands, and there are indications
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  Speaker 1: that these kinds of cases number in the millions. So
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  Speaker 1: there you go, five really extensive cases coming from all
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  Speaker 1: over the world. People who don't know each other and
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  Speaker 1: yet are reporting remarkably similar details. So thank you once
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  Speaker 1: again for watching. I hope you enjoyed this episode, perhaps
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  Speaker 1: learn something. There's a lot more cases like this. This
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  Speaker 1: is an important subject. I think it has the potential
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  Speaker 1: to change all of humanity and really bring us together.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you again, I really appreciate it. Until next time,
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  Speaker 1: keep asking those hard questions, keep searching for the truth
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  Speaker 1: most important of all, keep having fun. I will see
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  Speaker 1: you next Friday. Bye for now.