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Reflections & Insights: AHF 2025 Traveling Fellowship - Part II · AHF Podcast

• 0:21
  Joseph M. Schwab: Last week we started a conversation with the 2025 AHF Traveling Fellows, a conversation about expectations, preparation, and what it means to step into an experience that's designed to stretch the way you think.
• 0:37
  Joseph M. Schwab: In this second part, we shift the focus.
• 0:40
  Joseph M. Schwab: This is where we talk about the impact of the fellowship, the moments that change perspective, the lessons that weren't on the itinerary.
• 0:48
  Joseph M. Schwab: How exposure to different approaches and different ways of thinking reshapes what you bring back home.
• 0:56
  Joseph M. Schwab: As we put this series together, it once again reinforced why the AHF is more than just an organization.
• 1:03
  Joseph M. Schwab: It's a community built on curiosity, mentorship, and the willingness to learn from one another even when we don't all agree.
• 1:12
  Joseph M. Schwab: If you want to be part of that community, we'd love to see you at the AHF 2026 annual meeting, June 5th and sixth in Nashville, Tennessee.
• 1:22
  Joseph M. Schwab: This year's meeting is centered around the theme, consensus and controversy, and registration is already open.
• 1:29
  Joseph M. Schwab: You can find full details@anteriorhipfoundation.com under the events menu item.
• 1:37
  Joseph M. Schwab: I'll also put a direct link in the description, and if you haven't already, make sure you're subscribed to the podcast and are following along your ratings, comments and feedback genuinely help shape the conversations we have here.
• 1:53
  Joseph M. Schwab: So with that, let's pick up where we left off and continue the conversation.
• 1:59
  Joseph M. Schwab: Jeremy, how did observing different surgeons and going to these different institutions change the way you think about your own practice?
• 2:08
  Joseph M. Schwab: Hmm.
• 2:10
  Jeremy Kubik: Uh, that's a great question, Joe.
• 2:11
  Jeremy Kubik: I think, um, as I'd mentioned before, there are certainly more consistencies across the board than there are differences, which is the biggest thing that I, that I took home.
• 2:23
  Jeremy Kubik: And, um, I think the, um.
• 2:28
  Jeremy Kubik: The benefit is you start understanding where the goalposts are a bit better as opposed to being in your own practice and you sort of know where they are and then a complication or something hits you and then you say, oh, actually I missed that one by this amount.
• 2:49
  Jeremy Kubik: And that ended up being that result.
• 2:52
  Jeremy Kubik: Now what I saw in the operating room working with the surgeons is, you know, they don't worry about this part of the surgery the way I thought I should worry about it.
• 3:03
  Jeremy Kubik: So stop wasting time on that and take that time and dedicate it to another part of the surgery.
• 3:08
  Jeremy Kubik: So I think it helps refine kind of how I think about things and certainly dampen a lot of the worries that you have.
• 3:18
  Jeremy Kubik: And I think especially in anterior hips, I think in all of orthopedics it's, it's kind of one of the procedures that.
• 3:26
  Jeremy Kubik: People are apprehensive about starting because there are heavy critics of it from other approaches, right?
• 3:33
  Jeremy Kubik: And there are a known series of complications, um, as well as a significant learning curve.
• 3:40
  Jeremy Kubik: So I think the benefit of working with all the different surgeons and seeing their techniques, um, was that it put my mind at ease, I think, in an anterior hip in terms of letting myself relax on certain areas of the surgery where I thought, oh, if I do, if I don't do this, I'm gonna get that complication.
• 4:03
  Jeremy Kubik: And, and I think, um, that was certainly quite valuable to see.
• 4:08
  Joseph M. Schwab: I want to touch on a little bit about the relationships that you guys form during this type of fellowship.
• 4:14
  Joseph M. Schwab: And Alex, I actually wanna start with you.
• 4:17
  Joseph M. Schwab: So what, as a site host, what do you gain from your interaction with visiting fellows?
• 4:25
  Alexander Sah: Well, as you know, Joe, the what makes the foundation unique is really the comradery of the foundation.
• 4:32
  Alexander Sah: So whether you're faculty or participants or attendees.
• 4:35
  Alexander Sah: You can have conversations with whoever you want.
• 4:37
  Alexander Sah: You can ask whatever question you want.
• 4:39
  Alexander Sah: You can share experiences.
• 4:40
  Alexander Sah: It's such a cordial and supportive community that at the annual meeting, uh, really there are learners and teachers, right?
• 4:47
  Alexander Sah: Having conversations everywhere you go.
• 4:49
  Alexander Sah: And that continues in this fellowship.
• 4:52
  Alexander Sah: And so, you know, first off, I'm a little upset that these fellows are, are letting out the secret that I was asking them.
• 4:58
  Alexander Sah: How does Jonathan and Charlie do do this part of the case?
• 5:01
  Alexander Sah: I, I definitely, you know, wanna know their secrets as
• 5:03
  Qais Naziri: I didn't name names.
• 5:05
  Alexander Sah: And I guess I just, I just, I just outed myself, I guess.
• 5:08
  Alexander Sah: But, uh, but, uh, you know, it really comes down to the fact that, that I would do this fellowship myself if I could.
• 5:14
  Alexander Sah: I mean, it's that good that I would want to go see how these surgeons do things because it also changes every year.
• 5:20
  Alexander Sah: These surgeons are constantly improving their techniques and using new advanced technologies, things are getting better and better.
• 5:25
  Alexander Sah: So even one year to the next, it would vary.
• 5:28
  Alexander Sah: So it just speaks to the, the quality of the hosts.
• 5:31
  Alexander Sah: Um, but I think what Qais said earlier really is true, is that these fellows are the, the future of the foundation, Joe, they are really absorbing all of this information from all the various sites and they are.
• 5:45
  Alexander Sah: Making it the best.
• 5:46
  Alexander Sah: They're making it better, right?
• 5:47
  Alexander Sah: They're picking and choosing unique aspects from each of their experiences and making it their own.
• 5:51
  Alexander Sah: And now we as hosts are asking them to share the experience with us back.
• 5:56
  Alexander Sah: So there's no question that, that they are really gonna be the future leaders of the Anterior Hip Foundation.
• 6:01
  Alexander Sah: And so I, I really respect them for taking time outta their lives.
• 6:06
  Alexander Sah: Like Jeremy said, really trying to gain new experiences that they wouldn't otherwise have access to.
• 6:11
  Alexander Sah: All with the sole purpose of improving the way that they can treat their patients better when they're at home.
• 6:18
  Alexander Sah: So it's a real privilege, privilege to host these fellows.
• 6:20
  Alexander Sah: It means a lot to me to be able to share in my experiences, in the hope of helping them a little bit in building their own careers.
• 6:28
  Joseph M. Schwab: And for the fellows, can you tell me a little bit about the relationships you formed during the fellowship and if any of them have continued beyond the visits that you, uh, that you had.
• 6:40
  Michael Field: I if I jump in with, um, talking about the, the relationship between the three of us, um, that's been a huge part of.
• 6:50
  Michael Field: My life since we have, we have a WhatsApp group where we keep in touch.
• 6:55
  Michael Field: We found out about sort of major life events, but also bounce ideas off one another.
• 7:01
  Michael Field: And I, I was very fortunate, I had a, uh, young lady who'd run a half marathon, developed hip pain, presented 11 days down the line with a displaced intracapsular fracture neck of femur.
• 7:14
  Michael Field: And she, she was gonna be on my trauma list the next day.
• 7:18
  Michael Field: And I thought, well, here's something I may well need to open and organized for the retractors to come in and discussed with Qais and Jeremy.
• 7:28
  Michael Field: And of course Jeremy had written a paper on this and was, was, you know, one of, one of the world experts of Cal car plating, how to deliver the vascularity of the femoral head, you know, send the paper across.
• 7:38
  Michael Field: Said here, here are a few tips for you and.
• 7:41
  Michael Field: So it is this extraordinary thing of the, off the back of this two week fellowship, we now have a little, a little, a little group that is still shaping our practice.
• 7:53
  Jeremy Kubik: I think that was one of the, the things I didn't realize I would learn as much with the, um, the fellowship was the extracurriculars with the co-fellows and the discussion behind the scenes actually I think was very valuable.
• 8:09
  Jeremy Kubik: And, um, in understanding anterior hips a bit better, you know, we were able to talk about, you know.
• 8:19
  Jeremy Kubik: The the ways that Alex did a hip and, and we would argue about whether it was good or bad or, you know, or are you gonna implement that or not, and why not?
• 8:28
  Jeremy Kubik: And so I think having, um, a group of three was, was a, um, and like-mind a like-minded individuals was a good opportunity, um, throughout the fellowship.
• 8:41
  Jeremy Kubik: And then in, in terms of your prior question too, Joe, about asking like, our relationships with the staff surgeons, I, I think, um, the benefit of the track that we were on with all the surgeons was they were all quite humble.
• 8:56
  Jeremy Kubik: They, you know, they gave us the time of day.
• 8:58
  Jeremy Kubik: They, I think they understood that we are a little different than just a, a one surgeon coming for one day for an experience, um, and then going home, you know, and, and I think that that.
• 9:14
  Jeremy Kubik: Honestly, in all honesty, it speaks to the anterior hip foundation being able to cultivate that group.
• 9:19
  Jeremy Kubik: And, and I think the, the surgeons understood that a bit, you know, uh, uh, understood that well.
• 9:27
  Qais Naziri: I mean, the, the, uh, amount of hospitality that each site, uh, showed was, you know, uh.
• 9:38
  Qais Naziri: Immeasurable.
• 9:39
  Qais Naziri: I mean, the, you can have an Uber come and pick you up and drop you off and all that, but they would come and pick us up themselves and we're in the car having a conversation.
• 9:51
  Qais Naziri: It's, uh, those are things that, that, that, uh, did not go unnoticed.
• 10:00
  Qais Naziri: You're opening up your own life.
• 10:01
  Qais Naziri: We have, uh, like, uh, unlimited access almost, you know, and, and, uh, the, there are times where we, we went to the homes of the, uh, of the host surgeons and, uh, uh, you know, it's, you don't really get that any other way.
• 10:19
  Qais Naziri: And, um, it's, it, it, it shows that not only was the.
• 10:27
  Qais Naziri: Academic park, uh, fruitful, but that every host wanted to go and make sure that we felt that we were a part of their family.
• 10:37
  Qais Naziri: Uh, and this is, it.
• 10:38
  Qais Naziri: It it really sets us apart, the AHF family that's real.
• 10:45
  Qais Naziri: Um, and, um, you know, uh, there's no halfway You can always tell we we're, we're still in contact with, with each other.
• 10:56
  Qais Naziri: And, uh, and we as fellows, we never felt as outsiders either.
• 11:02
  Qais Naziri: So already just by, uh, starting the fellowship, by the time we were finished, we felt like we were a part of it also.
• 11:12
  Qais Naziri: And, um, you know, we have, uh, is a lifelong experience with the lifelong friends.
• 11:22
  Joseph M. Schwab: Michael, you mentioned, um, at the beginning that this may have, we, we'll say, open some doors professionally with your ability to, to use this fellowship amongst the committees that you need to, uh, talk with, to get approval.
• 11:37
  Joseph M. Schwab: Um, are are there any aspects, and I I'll throw this open for any of the fellows, um, but are there any aspects of this fellowship that you feel sort of accelerated a part of your career, whether it's accelerating your, your surgical prowess, accelerating your academic prowess, or accelerating your ability to network?
• 12:00
  Michael Field: I think the two, the two things would be it, it's no mean feat to take, um, a practice that's working.
• 12:09
  Michael Field: So my posterior hip practice, 15 months, it's, it's going well.
• 12:15
  Michael Field: You have an average length of stay of one, maybe two nights in hospital.
• 12:18
  Michael Field: You have happy patients at six weeks.
• 12:21
  Michael Field: I've had one dislocation from a traumatic incident involving alcohol, eight weeks post-op.
• 12:26
  Michael Field: But essentially the operation works pretty okay.
• 12:30
  Michael Field: Patients are happy.
• 12:31
  Michael Field: I'm happy.
• 12:32
  Michael Field: So with that as your starting point, to make the change to something that no one else does, takes a real leap of faith.
• 12:41
  Michael Field: But off the back of the year in Canada, seeing patients at two weeks behaving like they're.
• 12:47
  Michael Field: Six or eight week posterior hips walking unaided, pain-free.
• 12:50
  Michael Field: Delighted.
• 12:52
  Michael Field: You can see there are benefits to the anterior approach, and I think selling that to my colleagues initially and the the senior leadership team and the various committees that I've spoken to thus far and still have to speak to next week, being able to say, I've had my learning curve in Canada.
• 13:10
  Michael Field: I've then gone seen the greats of North American hip surgery over this incredible traveling fellowship.
• 13:17
  Michael Field: I'm ready to go and I understand how to deliver this in a safe, um, fashion with the appropriate governance in place has been, has been hugely powerful.
• 13:29
  Michael Field: But I'm not there yet.
• 13:30
  Michael Field: We've still got two committees to go.
• 13:33
  Joseph M. Schwab: Um, Jeremy, you made an interesting comment earlier talking about how the fellows were, I, I think the phrase you used was like-minded, which I find interesting.
• 13:43
  Joseph M. Schwab: I, I want to ask, um, if you recognize that you were with other fellows who were sort of like-minded, was there something that this fellowship taught you about yourself?
• 13:55
  Joseph M. Schwab: That maybe you didn't recognize or gave you the ability to recognize in others, um, just by going through the fellowship.
• 14:04
  Jeremy Kubik: I think the biggest thing was that, um, we're continuously students as surgeons, right?
• 14:13
  Jeremy Kubik: We go through 15 plus years of training, right?
• 14:16
  Jeremy Kubik: And then all of a sudden you're dumped in a silo, in a corner and learning things.
• 14:22
  Jeremy Kubik: You know, by yourself in the operating room.
• 14:25
  Jeremy Kubik: And then sometimes bouncing ideas off of colleagues, right?
• 14:28
  Jeremy Kubik: And then, and, and that's certainly a, uh, you know, with, with reps and with volume, that's how you can learn.
• 14:36
  Jeremy Kubik: And then, you know, a few years into practice, I think is honestly a sweet spot where, you know, it, it's a great time to kind of start reevaluating your own practice, looking in the rear view mirror and then saying, do I still have the ability to, um, learn something new for myself, but also to say, you know, can we do better for our patients?
• 15:02
  Jeremy Kubik: Like Michael said, you know, seeing an anterior hip at two weeks, that's certainly motivating to learn something new.
• 15:09
  Jeremy Kubik: Right?
• 15:10
  Jeremy Kubik: And so I think, um, uh, I think the benefit of being with.
• 15:18
  Jeremy Kubik: And Michael is that we are all early in practice sharing the trials and tribulations of being early career surgeons in itself removed from hip arthroplasty altogether.
• 15:30
  Jeremy Kubik: But certainly the fact that we're all willing to make change and be better and try and emulate, you know, high volume, um, high out, uh, really good outcome surgeons.
• 15:42
  Jeremy Kubik: Right?
• 15:42
  Jeremy Kubik: So I, I think, um, that's what I'd say for that.
• 15:46
  Joseph M. Schwab: Hmm.
• 15:47
  Joseph M. Schwab: And Alex, I wanna ask you, because you get to see the fellows early on and then you get to see them when they come to the annual, uh, meeting.
• 15:57
  Joseph M. Schwab: How do you see these fellows evolving from the beginning of their visit to by the time we're, uh, getting to celebrate what they've accomplished?
• 16:07
  Alexander Sah: It, it's a lot of fun.
• 16:08
  Alexander Sah: Joe, being the initial host site, I get to see them at the start and they're probably a little jet lagged and they're a little bit deer in the headlights.
• 16:15
  Alexander Sah: They're not really sure what they just signed up for.
• 16:17
  Alexander Sah: Uh, but we have a great time in the or so we get them immediately in the, OR in the hospital.
• 16:22
  Alexander Sah: In the SC we do a lot of social events and so we really get to know them and you know, it's only for three days or so, but as soon as they leave, my entire team is like, wait, we're the fellows.
• 16:33
  Alexander Sah: We miss them already and we already have fomo and we wish we were with them on their entire journey.
• 16:37
  Alexander Sah: So we really get to know them well.
• 16:39
  Alexander Sah: It's such an immersive experience for them, but also for us.
• 16:43
  Alexander Sah: And so we miss them.
• 16:44
  Alexander Sah: And then when we get to see them at the annual meeting.
• 16:46
  Alexander Sah: It is incredible to see how bonded they are.
• 16:50
  Alexander Sah: So they've talked about their friendship, they've talked about their collegiality.
• 16:53
  Alexander Sah: I can tell you as a, as a host, it is incredible to see that the interactions and the way they're talking to each other.
• 17:00
  Alexander Sah: When I first reunited with them at the annual meeting, I don't think they could knew to start with all the stories they had, whether it was in the or in the clinic, in the hotel, at dinner, after dinner.
• 17:10
  Alexander Sah: Just the things they were sharing were remarkable, and it's just great to see those friendships and those bonds and then to hear everything about all the experiences that they gathered those two weeks, I completely believe them when they say they're still digesting it because they absorb so much over those two to three weeks.
• 17:27
  Alexander Sah: But they really did evolve to answer your question into new leaders in the field.
• 17:33
  Alexander Sah: They, you can clearly tell that they're ready to educate others and to implement what they learned in their practice.
• 17:39
  Joseph M. Schwab: I wanted to ask you,'cause you're in an academic practice, are you, um, have you found any, uh, aspect of the fellowship that has impacted how you mentor others?
• 17:53
  Qais Naziri: Yeah.
• 17:53
  Qais Naziri: You know, uh, um, I think especially when you are, when you bring in something new, the first, uh, thing that you wanna show is non inferiority.
• 18:06
  Qais Naziri: You wanna make sure that you are, uh, at best as good as anybody else.
• 18:12
  Qais Naziri: And, um, being, uh, you know, the, the only anterior hip surgeon in the area, the one thing you can't have is.
• 18:22
  Qais Naziri: Things to go wrong because then everyone will say, why are you trying to do this?
• 18:27
  Qais Naziri: It takes longer.
• 18:28
  Qais Naziri: It's harder.
• 18:29
  Qais Naziri: You have a table, you need fluoro, and you're doing all this, and your outcomes are aren't as good.
• 18:35
  Qais Naziri: So that was a burden that I, I add, whether it was, um, uh, true or not, I, I felt that, and I, I wanted to go make sure that I, at the very least, didn't have a complication rate that was more than, than anybody else.
• 18:52
  Qais Naziri: So then that was my first few years.
• 18:54
  Qais Naziri: now that we know that this isn't a fad, now that, that we know that there are more people doing anterior now for primaries than probably any other approach.
• 19:06
  Qais Naziri: It's here.
• 19:06
  Qais Naziri: It's here to stay, and we are a part of it.
• 19:09
  Qais Naziri: And, and now establishing this as, as.
• 19:14
  Qais Naziri: Probably one of the best ways to do a primary hip and, and expanding the indications with patients and with, with, um, uh, fractures and revisions.
• 19:28
  Qais Naziri: It just kind of shows that not only, uh, was I new to, to bring this to my practice, but that this is real.
• 19:39
  Qais Naziri: And, uh, I am at the forefront of it.
• 19:42
  Qais Naziri: So it does kind of help to show both the practice and my residents that anterior is, is not a fad.
• 19:50
  Qais Naziri: It is the premier way of doing it and we can do it as well as fast and, uh, as efficient as anyone else.
• 20:03
  Joseph M. Schwab: So I want to take a moment to address people who might be listening or watching this who are thinking about applying for the 2026 fellowship or future fellowships.
• 20:12
  Joseph M. Schwab: And Jeremy, I'm gonna start with you.
• 20:14
  Joseph M. Schwab: Who, what's the ideal, uh, situation that you think somebody who should absolutely apply for this fellowship, knowing what you know now?
• 20:25
  Jeremy Kubik: I think, um, should be a surgeon who is an early career, um, who I think has had exposure to anterior hips, either has seen them previously in fellowship or has done them.
• 20:41
  Jeremy Kubik: I think it's valuable.
• 20:42
  Jeremy Kubik: I don't think that's mandatory necessarily, but I think if, if I think back to what if I would've done my, this fellowship in my first year practice as opposed to my fifth year, I think I got a lot more out of it this past year because I.
• 21:00
  Jeremy Kubik: I know where I would struggle previously in the operating room.
• 21:03
  Jeremy Kubik: So I came in with my internal questions in terms of being able to refine those as opposed to being a blank slate and seeing Dr.
• 21:10
  Jeremy Kubik: Sa do an anterior hip in, you know, 40 minutes and thinking what the hell just happened there?
• 21:15
  Jeremy Kubik: I mean, it looked amazing.
• 21:17
  Jeremy Kubik: But, you know, I think picking up on things and refining them require you to have to come in with a series of questions.
• 21:24
  Jeremy Kubik: So I think being a few years into practice, um, is certainly, is certainly valuable.
• 21:32
  Jeremy Kubik: And then I think, um, that there's more to this fellowship than just learning and refining an anterior hip technique.
• 21:42
  Jeremy Kubik: I think understanding the efficiencies of.
• 21:48
  Jeremy Kubik: Different environments to operate in, whether it's the ambulatory surgery center versus a hospital, which we saw with Dr.
• 21:54
  Jeremy Kubik: Sa for example.
• 21:56
  Jeremy Kubik: And as Michael had pointed out earlier, seeing how the team surrounding these surgeons work is just, it's unbelievable.
• 22:05
  Jeremy Kubik: And I think you need to see it to believe it, in all honesty.
• 22:11
  Jeremy Kubik: Um, and so, uh, I think the fellowship offers more than just refining your anterior hip technique.
• 22:18
  Jeremy Kubik: So if you're looking for more than that, then I think it's something worth applying for.
• 22:24
  Joseph M. Schwab: So Michael, let me ask you, if an applicant is preparing themselves to get the most out of the experience, what advice would you give them?
• 22:34
  Michael Field: Um, first and foremost, based on where you're traveling from, arrive early.
• 22:39
  Michael Field: And I'm forever grateful that I spent a couple of days in San Francisco walking around and adjusting to the time zone difference because once it starts, it's really started and it doesn't stop.
• 22:51
  Michael Field: Um, and the kind of stamina and endurance that we put ourselves through for the two weeks was quite, there were, there were moments when we missed our connecting flight from Colorado to Atlanta, and I was, we'd we'd sprinted for the connecting flight.
• 23:08
  Michael Field: We'd missed it by minutes.
• 23:10
  Michael Field: I was all forgiving up and we, we had, um, uh, Charlie the next day and, um, Jeremy wasn't gonna be defeated.
• 23:17
  Michael Field: And even though the, uh, the airline staff had told us there was no other flight, he was there on his laptop proving there was another flight and got us rebooked onto the other flight that they think thought didn't exist.
• 23:27
  Michael Field: And we got there and we dragged each other along.
• 23:30
  Michael Field: Um, and I think going into it with a mentality of you are just committing to this for two weeks and immersing yourselves in it is, is fundamental.
• 23:43
  Michael Field: Um, and it's not just about the surgery, it's about the relationships that you're gonna build with the visiting surgeons and your co-fellows and becoming a part of the AHF family.
• 23:53
  Michael Field: And I, I, I have a kinship to the AHF that I think is just as strong as to my British Hip Society or various other UK organizations in spite of the fact that it's only been two meetings and a two week traveling fellowship.
• 24:08
  Michael Field: I, I, you know, I, you, it really is a, a family feel.
• 24:13
  Joseph M. Schwab: Alex, without naming any names, what makes a visiting fellow truly stand out to a host?
• 24:22
  Alexander Sah: Well, these three fellows, I will say, they are all fantastic and it's because as you can tell, they're energetic, they're enthusiastic, they're motivated to learn as much as they can, and they have a passion for anterior approach.
• 24:34
  Alexander Sah: I mean, the hosts of this fellowship, Joe, you, yourself, this past president, we all have a passion, right?
• 24:39
  Alexander Sah: Not just for the approach itself, but for teaching, for constantly learning ourselves and to share that with each other.
• 24:46
  Alexander Sah: So we want fellows who are passionate.
• 24:48
  Alexander Sah: We want them to be involved.
• 24:49
  Alexander Sah: We want them to be active learners.
• 24:51
  Alexander Sah: Um, because that's why we're also committing our time to it.
• 24:55
  Alexander Sah: We wanna have a great two weeks together.
• 24:57
  Alexander Sah: And as you've heard from this group, they were sponges from the beginning and they've learned so much.
• 25:02
  Alexander Sah: I, I look forward to learning from them.
• 25:04
  Joseph M. Schwab: I just have a couple of last questions'cause you gentlemen have been really, really generous with your time and Qais, I wanna start with you.
• 25:12
  Joseph M. Schwab: How has this experience influenced what's next for you professionally, if at all?
• 25:19
  Qais Naziri: Oh, the, it's.
• 25:23
  Qais Naziri: As soon as I came back, my chairman said, oh, so it sounds like you're looking for another job.
• 25:30
  Qais Naziri: I said, no, no, no.
• 25:32
  Qais Naziri: That's not true.
• 25:33
  Qais Naziri: Uh, but, uh, you know, I think that the, there's so much depth in, in this, in the three weeks in that you can learn from, uh, from zooming out and seeing how, uh, how all the, his strings are being pulled.
• 25:50
  Qais Naziri: Or you can go into the, the, the details of um, what time each patient showing up, what time they get from one room.
• 25:58
  Qais Naziri: To another room.
• 25:59
  Qais Naziri: What roles are done by which people?
• 26:02
  Qais Naziri: Uh, it is remarkable as far as, and just on the administrative level.
• 26:08
  Qais Naziri: Um, so it's not just about the inside the OR and who uses which hook, uh, at what time.
• 26:15
  Qais Naziri: It's, it's how you can make the process, be the process and how you can focus on things that only you can do.
• 26:23
  Qais Naziri: And I think that that was, was one of the, uh, biggest keys was trying to go and let go of things that I know I don't have to do.
• 26:33
  Qais Naziri: And I think that all kind of gets summed up in that, in the Porsche driving experience.
• 26:38
  Qais Naziri: You know, it's like not everything is a curve, so you don't have to slow down into every curve.
• 26:45
  Qais Naziri: When you hit the straightaway, it's go, baby, go.
• 26:48
  Qais Naziri: And.
• 26:48
  Qais Naziri: If there was a lot of that, and I think that that's the key is just let the easy parts be easy because the hard parts are always gonna be hard.
• 26:57
  Joseph M. Schwab: Alex, how do you hope the traveling fellowship will evolve, or how are you planning for the traveling fellowship to evolve in the coming years?
• 27:07
  Alexander Sah: Well, Joe, the fellowships already grown each year and actually the size of the fellow class will be increased for year three.
• 27:13
  Alexander Sah: This coming year, we'll have more fellows and we're also bringing on new host sites.
• 27:18
  Alexander Sah: We have applicants reaching out literally from all around the world, all year long to apply, and we have surgeons routinely asking if they can be host sites.
• 27:27
  Alexander Sah: The enthusiasm and growth of the fellowship is incredible.
• 27:30
  Alexander Sah: I hope the fellowship evolves to include as many educators that want to teach, as many fellows that want to learn as much as humanly possible.
• 27:37
  Alexander Sah: I'd like to see multiple fellowships or perhaps spinoff opportunities where AHF participants can set up their own desired visit somewhere.
• 27:44
  Alexander Sah: These things are already happening and it's truly exciting to see.
• 27:48
  Joseph M. Schwab: What I'm gonna end with, with you gentlemen, is I just kind of want to do a closing round and the closing round, I'm just gonna do a, a rapid fire single, uh, sentence, single word answer, um, from each of you.
• 28:02
  Joseph M. Schwab: And I want to start, I want it to go Qaiss Jeremy, Michael.
• 28:07
  Joseph M. Schwab: I'll give you the sentence and then I want you to go ahead and give me the first thing that comes to your mind.
• 28:11
  Joseph M. Schwab: So we ready?
• 28:13
  Joseph M. Schwab: First one, one word to describe the fellowship.
• 28:18
  Qais Naziri: Life changing.
• 28:19
  Jeremy Kubik: Memorable
• 28:21
  Michael Field: Extraordinary.
• 28:23
  Joseph M. Schwab: thing that you gained that you didn't expect.
• 28:29
  Qais Naziri: Friendship,
• 28:33
  Jeremy Kubik: comradery.
• 28:37
  Michael Field: A Qais's got me on friendship.
• 28:38
  Michael Field: I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna have to double down on friendship.
• 28:42
  Joseph M. Schwab: One reason someone should apply this year.
• 28:47
  Qais Naziri: a hot ticket.
• 28:51
  Jeremy Kubik: I, I don't have a soundbite, buzzword like Qais, but Anterior Hip Foundation is expanding and growing fast, and it's an exciting time to be riding the wave and being at the forefront.
• 29:05
  Jeremy Kubik: So it's, it's a great time now to, it's gonna be great in 10 years, but now is the time to jump on it.
• 29:13
  Michael Field: Why wouldn't you?
• 29:16
  Joseph M. Schwab: And last one, one message to future fellows.
• 29:20
  Joseph M. Schwab: And it could be more than just a single word you want to give a sentence or two.
• 29:23
  Joseph M. Schwab: What's your message to future fellows?
• 29:26
  Joseph M. Schwab: Qais, start with you?
• 29:28
  Qais Naziri: Uh, that we are like-minded in the sense that we have chosen this field.
• 29:34
  Qais Naziri: Within this field.
• 29:35
  Qais Naziri: We have chosen this, uh, sub, this specialty within this subspecialty.
• 29:40
  Qais Naziri: We, we have chosen this surgery.
• 29:42
  Qais Naziri: So we have all of that in common.
• 29:44
  Qais Naziri: If that alone is not enough, um, being around those people who want to.
• 29:50
  Qais Naziri: To lift each other up, learn from each other, uh, and build, uh, uh, as one unit is a, it's a priceless opportunity to, to, to get in on the ground floor of, uh, a, you know, of a, this is like apple in, its in its infancy.
• 30:14
  Qais Naziri: You know, this is you, you won't get this o opportunity again.
• 30:18
  Qais Naziri: Uh, and we are all blessed and fortunate.
• 30:25
  Jeremy Kubik: I agree with Qais, I echo, what he had said there.
• 30:28
  Jeremy Kubik: You know.
• 30:30
  Jeremy Kubik: There's always gonna be critics of everything we do in orthopedics, um, especially in anterior approach, right?
• 30:38
  Jeremy Kubik: And when I left for the fellowship, one of my colleagues that said, well, you already do anterior approach, so you know, why, why are you doing this?
• 30:51
  Jeremy Kubik: And I said, well, it's, you know, an ability for me to reflect on what I know and what I've learned, but also to refine my technique and to, you know, learn the self-awareness that we all need for our patients, um, at the end of the day.
• 31:09
  Jeremy Kubik: And so I think, um, it's honestly an amazing opportunity to reflect on your own practice to be to.
• 31:16
  Jeremy Kubik: Be better for your patients than, as I said earlier, anterior hip foundation is certainly, um, setting itself apart from other orthopedic, um, groups as a community with, uh, collaboration.
• 31:29
  Jeremy Kubik: And I mean, this discussion in itself speaks volumes so.
• 31:36
  Michael Field: I think a slight double-edged sword of the success of the fellowship is how can.
• 31:40
  Michael Field: Competitive, it's going to become year on year to get to be a fellow.
• 31:44
  Michael Field: And I've had consultant colleagues in the UK say to me, you know, it sounds like it was an amazing thing.
• 31:51
  Michael Field: Any tips for how I stand my best chance when I apply?
• 31:55
  Michael Field: And I think the answer to that has to be, it's not just about, um, what you are gonna get out of the fellowship, but, but also about what each individual can bring to the fellowship is gonna be a key part of being a successful applicant.
• 32:12
  Joseph M. Schwab: Alex, I kind of wanna leave the last question for you because one of the things we haven't talked about, but that is crucially important for the success of the fellowship are our sponsors because they make this all financially possible.
• 32:26
  Joseph M. Schwab: And so from your perspective, if you were to talk to sponsors directly about what they get out of providing support for the AHF traveling fellowship, what would you get to tell'em?
• 32:42
  Alexander Sah: You know, that's probably been the easiest part of.
• 32:44
  Alexander Sah: Organizing this fellowship, Joe, because the fellowship really speaks for itself for sponsors.
• 32:49
  Alexander Sah: They see the mission, they see the goal, and they're on board.
• 32:51
  Alexander Sah: These are things that they're trying to achieve with their own endeavors.
• 32:54
  Alexander Sah: So we're doing the legwork for them.
• 32:56
  Alexander Sah: They see the momentum of anterior approach.
• 32:58
  Alexander Sah: They see the education, the camaraderie, the leadership, how this, this is gonna continue beyond these two weeks beyond the year.
• 33:04
  Alexander Sah: It's really gonna last a career of relationships for, so for sponsors, they have the ability to get involved early and long term.
• 33:12
  Alexander Sah: And so we certainly appreciate all of them being committed to the AHF and their commitment to education.
• 33:19
  Alexander Sah: And, uh, for, for sponsors, it's a no brainer for them to be involved.
• 33:23
  Joseph M. Schwab: Well, gentlemen, I want to thank all of you for being part of this broadcast today for telling us about your experience with the AHF Traveling Fellowship, both as fellows, as well as Dr.
• 33:34
  Joseph M. Schwab: Sa as a, as a host site.
• 33:37
  Joseph M. Schwab: Um, and we look forward to your.
• 33:40
  Joseph M. Schwab: Participation in the AHF in years to come.
• 33:43
  Joseph M. Schwab: Thank you so much for being pioneers with us.
• 33:48
  Jeremy Kubik: Thanks for having us.
• 33:50
  Alexander Sah: Thank you.
• 33:51
  Joseph M. Schwab: Once again.
• 33:52
  Joseph M. Schwab: For information on the 2026 AHF Traveling Fellowship, go to anterior hip foundation.com/ahf 2026 Traveling Fellowship, or just grab the link from the show notes.
• 34:09
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• 34:14
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• 34:21
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• 34:26
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• 34:40
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• 34:45
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