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Cold Streets · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

• 0:10
  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 2: Jobs today we've got all the people from Cold Streets. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: just a great punk band.
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody needs to check them out, just like I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's just like all the things that you love about
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  Speaker 2: like punk from like the two thousands. You guys just
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  Speaker 2: like nailed so well, so super excited chat with each
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  Speaker 2: one of you. I would love to ask each one
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: of you how you're doing, but there's just like there's
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  Speaker 2: probably uh you know, that would probably take too long.
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  Speaker 2: But what I will say, I think each one of
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  Speaker 2: you should just like introduce yourself, say you're aim that
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: way people can know what your voice is. And also
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  Speaker 2: if you want to introduce yourself with whatever instrument, how.
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  Speaker 3: About how about also your biggest insecurity in life? Because
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  Speaker 3: that's that's the greatest way to introduce break the ice
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  Speaker 3: for everybody.
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  Speaker 2: What a lot of people don't realize this is like
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  Speaker 2: mostly a therapy podcast and way less of your music podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Whoever wants to go for you with their insecurity?
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  Speaker 1: Sure, I'm seth. I play guitar and sing in the band.
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  Speaker 1: I'm coming from Columbus, Ohio, the much better state, even
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: though the Hoosiers one last night.
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  Speaker 3: And what's your biggest insecurity.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know, working out and not being able
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  Speaker 1: to run fast something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's a that's a good one. That's a good one.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Jordan.
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  Speaker 5: I play guitar, and I'm pretty insecure about just about everything.
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  Speaker 2: So are you insecure about the fact that you look
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  Speaker 2: like Bilberr?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 4: You know I've gotten I get you, I get.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 5: See, I'm insecure about talking. Okay, No, I've got Bilbert.
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  Speaker 4: And I used to get.
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  Speaker 1: Sick guy from a Twister all the guy from Twister.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because I used to have longer hair, and especially
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  Speaker 5: Philip Seymour Hofman and.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: But that's me.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of get like brother Alli vibes too.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know who that is. I get Tim the
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  Speaker 4: tatman all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Tim.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, he's like a twitch guy or something.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I know who he is.
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  Speaker 3: That sounds like some nerdy ship.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, it's up on my key. I play bass and
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  Speaker 6: sing a little bit. I don't know. My my biggest
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  Speaker 6: insecurity maybe just about singing. I'm my biggest critic when
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  Speaker 6: it comes to vocals, So I get kind of insecure
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  Speaker 6: sometimes about how I sound. Should you just all I
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  Speaker 6: could think about, Mikey.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, My biggest insecurity right in this
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  Speaker 2: moment is that I hope I look like you in
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  Speaker 2: like ten years, Like if I can have that like
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  Speaker 2: salt and pepper look and I've got like those arms
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  Speaker 2: and tattoos like you because I think facially we kind
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: of we have like the same bone structure. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if I can look like you in
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  Speaker 2: ten years from now, I would be That's my biggest
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  Speaker 2: insecurity that I won't be.
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  Speaker 3: You know what's crazy is immediately when I saw you,
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  Speaker 3: I knew that Mason was gonna say that because he
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  Speaker 3: has described that he wants to look like you and
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  Speaker 3: he had never even seen you before.
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  Speaker 6: Well, he's off to a good start. He's got the
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  Speaker 6: you know, the long flowing locks already. I mean, it
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  Speaker 6: looks good.
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  Speaker 2: I've got it in a bun right now, but yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I bet it looks great.
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  Speaker 2: I've always said I always forget his name, but the
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  Speaker 2: there's the guitarist for Death Caap for Cutie, and he
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  Speaker 2: just has like the just like this great like salt
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  Speaker 2: and pepper long hair, and I'm like, God, if I
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  Speaker 2: can look like that at forty five, I'm like, I'll
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  Speaker 2: be set, like I'll be happy with life.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I believe it. I believe it for you.
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  Speaker 1: The only reason he's in the band just to the
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  Speaker 1: scale of attractiveness to get the chick.
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  Speaker 2: Also, I'm just realizing there's a dog behind you, guys,
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  Speaker 2: and I also know for Seth there's two dogs behind you. Like,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of dogs in this podcast right now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think we should have the dogs introduce themselves too.
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  Speaker 2: So uh and then all right, let's let's let's hear
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  Speaker 2: the last person.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: I am John Oh. I played the drums. Honestly, the
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  Speaker 7: biggest insecurity I can think of at this moment is
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  Speaker 7: about playing music and pretty much anything outside of playing drums.
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  Speaker 7: I can like play other instruments, but I'm very insecure
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  Speaker 7: about it. So if I'm not behind a drum kit,
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  Speaker 7: I'm I feel completely naked.
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  Speaker 3: What's what's the What's the next instrument you would feel
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  Speaker 3: the most comfortable playing?
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  Speaker 7: Uh, probably piano. I play keys at our churches.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, but yeah you got If you've got church skills,
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  Speaker 3: you're you're good.
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  Speaker 7: Enough, thank you, especially for.
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  Speaker 3: A punk band. So if you guys need some keys,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 7: I think, well, there's one person who's not allowed to
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  Speaker 7: write piano parts, and it's this guy because he he says,
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  Speaker 7: I have a piano part, and then he sits there
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  Speaker 7: for like forty minutes not playing anything, and then we
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  Speaker 7: don't get anything done.
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  Speaker 3: That's amazing. Love that.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well let's talk about your guys' music. So
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  Speaker 2: how did how did Cold Streets get started? Like, were
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  Speaker 2: you guys just like lifelong friends? What like, Yeah, what's
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  Speaker 2: the story about the origins of Cold Hearts or Cold Streets?
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  Speaker 5: Well, now we have Cold Hearts, that's a better name.
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  Speaker 5: So me, Mikey, and Seth All used to be in
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  Speaker 5: a band called Forever at Last. We were on Victory
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  Speaker 5: Records and tour it all the time, thank you. So
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  Speaker 5: when I left that band, I was pretty bitter towards music.
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  Speaker 5: I never wanted to play again, sold everything. And then
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  Speaker 5: JOHNO is actually my brother in law, so my wife
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  Speaker 5: and his wife our sisters. And when right when he
• 6:05
  Speaker 5: started coming around, he was like, hey, I played drums,
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  Speaker 5: and I was like, yeah, dude, cool, Like I've been
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  Speaker 5: in a band and I don't really care to ever
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  Speaker 5: play again.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm glad you played drums.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, but then for just a second, where did where
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  Speaker 3: did the bitterness come from?
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  Speaker 5: How the band ended it was there was a lot
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  Speaker 5: of internal issues, and sure, I just yeah, I left,
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  Speaker 5: and I was like, yeah, I think I'm done. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm getting married, I got a dog. I think being
• 6:31
  Speaker 5: at home is cooler. And then yes, but then he
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  Speaker 5: finally he was like, dude, no really, let's just get
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  Speaker 5: together and jam. And I was like, I literally have
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  Speaker 5: a guitar, I don't have an amp anymore, like I
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  Speaker 5: have no way to jam. But I borrowed some like
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  Speaker 5: an AMP from a buddy and we just jammed like
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  Speaker 5: MxPx and some Paramore songs. And then I was like,
• 6:50
  Speaker 5: you know what, that was actually awesome. So then reached
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  Speaker 5: out to Seth because he was also in my old band,
• 6:56
  Speaker 5: and I was like, hey, man, you want to jam some.
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  Speaker 4: XPX with us?
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  Speaker 5: And he's like yeah, I'll play bas and sing and
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  Speaker 5: we'll like be like MxPx.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like cool, Yeah, let's do it. So
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  Speaker 4: we drove out.
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  Speaker 5: We're in like Indianapolis, just south of Indianapolis, and then
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  Speaker 5: Seth is in Columbus, Ohio, So it's like a two
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  Speaker 5: and a half hour drive ish, so we drove out there, jammed.
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  Speaker 5: We literally just played MxPx for like two hours, and
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  Speaker 5: then we were like, hey, this is cool.
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  Speaker 4: Let's just do this job.
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  Speaker 1: MxPx it.
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  Speaker 4: What did you say?
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  Speaker 1: Just MxPx?
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  Speaker 4: That's literally all we did, like, no joke.
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  Speaker 5: And then we did that like once, maybe twice, and
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  Speaker 5: then uh, Mikey was like, hey, I'd like to jam
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  Speaker 5: with you guys, and I'll let JOHNO kind of tell
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  Speaker 5: all that, but uh, we just kind of got together
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  Speaker 5: and jammed, and then Mikey was like, Hey, I got
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  Speaker 5: this uh like garage band noodle that I made on
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  Speaker 5: my phone.
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  Speaker 4: You guys want to hear it.
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  Speaker 5: And we listened to it once and then we just
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  Speaker 5: jammed through it and kept jamming and writing a song
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  Speaker 5: and we were like, well, this is way cooler. Let's
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  Speaker 5: let's just write our own stuff. And then that's kind
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  Speaker 5: of how it started.
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  Speaker 2: We just were You're like, hey, Mike, you got any
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  Speaker 2: of those piano parts.
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  Speaker 4: I was just gonna say no.
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  Speaker 5: That happened after we started Cold Streets and JOHNA is
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  Speaker 5: not exaggerating. We were in the studio, well my studio,
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  Speaker 5: and Mike he was like, I got this piano idea,
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  Speaker 5: and then we sat there and he was like dumb, dumb,
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  Speaker 5: and then like ten minutes would pass.
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  Speaker 3: And I'd be like, is this a Kanye Weston?
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  Speaker 4: I was like, are you for real? Like what do
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  Speaker 4: you got?
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  Speaker 5: And he was like done, and I just said, Okay, Mikey,
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  Speaker 5: let's move on.
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  Speaker 1: There's like a lot of side eye and going in
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  Speaker 1: like ten minutes between each.
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  Speaker 5: Other because he literally is like, honestly, these three dudes
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  Speaker 5: are some of the best musicians I ever played with,
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  Speaker 5: but like they can like pick up anything and figure
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  Speaker 5: it out and be really good at it. So I
• 8:47
  Speaker 5: was like, Okay, Mikey probably has like a cool idea,
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  Speaker 5: because normally he does have really cool ideas. But I
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  Speaker 5: was like, bro, I would never get those forty minutes back.
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  Speaker 5: Let's track some harmony now, because that's what you're actually
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  Speaker 5: here to do. But anyway, that's that's about it. That's
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  Speaker 5: like how we started Cold Streets. And then, of course
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  Speaker 5: cold Streets is an MxPx song title off of their
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  Speaker 5: album Panic.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was just because you guys were ice members.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's it, Minnesota, that's it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm done.
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  Speaker 2: It was really great to have you guys on I
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  Speaker 2: can't wait to talk next time.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for having us.
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta get back to work.
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  Speaker 2: So okay, what I didn't realize about you guys was
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you guys were in Forever at Last
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  Speaker 2: and so yeah, like, was there something about like you know,
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  Speaker 2: I know you just mentioned like you know that that
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  Speaker 2: Forever at Last maybe didn't end the way you would
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  Speaker 2: maybe have.
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  Speaker 3: Hoped it was not. Was it something that's okay?
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  Speaker 2: What was I saying?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, you said something. Was there a hope
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: you said something about? Was there a hope? Oh?
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: So what was there a hope that?
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: I thought you I thought you were saying that I
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: like said the name wrong. Was was there a hope
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: that like, okay, that didn't end the bass? But there
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: must have been something where it's like, all right, we
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  Speaker 2: still have like kind of these creative juices like we
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  Speaker 2: have there must be music within me?
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: And was was that something where you guys were just
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  Speaker 2: like sitting on that for a while and then you're like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, let's come together and let's see see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously maybe the MxPx thing was maybe the gateway
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  Speaker 2: into that but like clearly, clearly there was something you
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: all were sitting on. It seems like I.
• 10:46
  Speaker 5: Can answer, oh yeah, unless you guys have something to
• 10:49
  Speaker 5: say for me. Honestly, I think I told these guys
• 10:52
  Speaker 5: when we started writing our own stuff, like I was like,
• 10:55
  Speaker 5: this is therapy for me for all of that, all
• 10:58
  Speaker 5: of the the stuff that happened. And I was like,
• 11:02
  Speaker 5: so this is cool. So honestly, if you dissect a
• 11:04
  Speaker 5: lot of our lyrics, a lot of our lyrics are
• 11:06
  Speaker 5: kind of dealing with all of that stuff. And then
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  Speaker 5: so I guess I had it kind of like built up.
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  Speaker 5: I needed some creative outlet to have therapy, you know,
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  Speaker 5: because that's I mean, that's what music always was for me.
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  Speaker 5: So to get that back was awesome to be honest.
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: Hey, feel a little less like Bill Burno, I forgot
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  Speaker 2: the question. Yeah, just I don't know if there was
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  Speaker 2: like a particular question, but yeah, something along the lines
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  Speaker 2: of just like you know, with Forever at Last ending
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  Speaker 2: the way that I did, Like, yeah, like just how
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: that maybe kind of was maybe the catapult for something
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  Speaker 2: like difficult streets to happen. Like what was there music
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  Speaker 2: that you all were sitting on? Was was there like
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  Speaker 2: a hope that like, hey, I would still love to
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  Speaker 2: do music still, and and and the way that Forever
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  Speaker 2: at Last ends, like now, that's like, you know, the
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: catalyst maybe of something like Cold Streets. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just kind of like how Forever at Last like
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  Speaker 2: kind of was the sort of like off ramp into
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  Speaker 2: Cold Streets.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that swayed that?
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  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: In our in our first song who Cares that he
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: was talking about having the doodle for or whatever. Uh,
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: there's a line in that says things change, but passions
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: stay the same. And I think you know once, you
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: like once, you've kind of come from that background of
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: touring where when you're touring and you're trying to make
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  Speaker 1: it as you know, a band, you're you're putting everything
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  Speaker 1: into it. And even though for us it didn't end
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  Speaker 1: super good, you know, we there's a there's a we're
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: always gonna have a part of our heart that wants
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: to play and it's never gonna stop creating and thinking
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: like a musician and thinking like we're on tour and
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: thinking like that. And so at least for me personally,
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: like like Mikey had that idea before you know, we did.
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  Speaker 1: We even got together. So you know, it's there's a
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  Speaker 1: part of that brain that never that never dies. There's
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: a part of your brain that never dies when once
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  Speaker 1: you start doing this like we did, you know. So
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: that's about it.
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  Speaker 3: So so John, oh, how about you have the mic still? Right?
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  Speaker 6: All right? Was it?
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  Speaker 3: Where did the MxPx come from? I mean, MxPx is great,
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: but why why MxPx? Why? Why was that where the
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  Speaker 3: the kicking off point started for you guys?
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  Speaker 7: I think it was just the one thing that we
• 13:38
  Speaker 7: all first knew that we had in common was that
• 13:40
  Speaker 7: we loved MxPx, or at least liked them to a degree.
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  Speaker 7: So when I first was talking to boy or I
• 13:47
  Speaker 7: call him boy because his wife's name is Jordan, so
• 13:49
  Speaker 7: we called him boy Jordan and girl Jordan. When when
• 13:52
  Speaker 7: I was first talking to Jordan about playing music, I
• 13:54
  Speaker 7: was just he was like, well, what, like, what kind
• 13:55
  Speaker 7: of news do you like? And I was like, oh no,
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  Speaker 7: MxPx is like oh yeah, I like m xpx two.
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  Speaker 7: And so then we talked to Seth and he liked
• 14:01
  Speaker 7: the xpx. And then like the first thing me and
• 14:03
  Speaker 7: Mikey connected with at our first rehearsal was we literally
• 14:06
  Speaker 7: played responsibility without ever practicing, We just played through the
• 14:09
  Speaker 7: whole song because we just both knew it really well
• 14:12
  Speaker 7: and it just felt right playing that kind of music together,
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  Speaker 7: and it kind of just kickstarted. I mean, it obviously
• 14:18
  Speaker 7: influenced all of our writing styles. Like a lot of
• 14:22
  Speaker 7: our songs very much are inspired by some era MxPx
• 14:28
  Speaker 7: or other pop punk of that variety. So yeah, it
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  Speaker 7: just kind of made sense to us to start there.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, did you guys grow up with like that tooth
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  Speaker 2: and Nail you know, like MxPx scene, Like was that
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: something that you had all you know, those early two thousand's,
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: late nineties tooth and Nail scene?
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely, Like JOHNO said, it was
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  Speaker 6: a lot of that. Just it reminded us of music
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  Speaker 6: from that era, just like very nostalgic, you know, MxPx especially,
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: you know, we all had that in common. It just
• 15:04
  Speaker 6: reminded us of going back to that time. You know,
• 15:08
  Speaker 6: we're we're I don't know, it's just it was just fun,
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  Speaker 6: you know, It's just nostalgic and fun. We didn't have
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: any agenda or anything like that. We just got together
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: and wanted a jam and you know, just pretend like
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: we were, you know, fifteen again.
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  Speaker 5: So I always joke that we are two thousands youth
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: group punk, like that's what our band is, because that's like,
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's what we all grew up in, was
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: the early two thousands.
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  Speaker 4: We were all in youth groups and.
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  Speaker 5: Loved for Lion K and MxPx and you know Flat
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: for fifty six and all those all those bands.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, so you guys started the group, what was
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: it two thousand and twenty two.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: John Oold No Better.
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  Speaker 7: When did we start our first session the three of us, me,
• 15:58
  Speaker 7: you and Seth, Me Jordan and Seth was twenty nineteen
• 16:01
  Speaker 7: and I think actually before that year was up my
• 16:03
  Speaker 7: key joint, So it was about like September or so
• 16:07
  Speaker 7: of twenty nineteen was when we first had our full
• 16:09
  Speaker 7: band reversal.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so was there was there like a show
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: on the horizon or was there a plan to record
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: or something like that that like kicked you guys off
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: and we're like, all right, we're gonna do this thing
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: for real. It's not just like us having fun or
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: doing therapy or something like that.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: Well it's funny.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So we started working with a guy that forever
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: at last worked with a lot here in indie, and
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: we went and started recording with him, like because we
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: were like three songs and we're like, let's just record
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: him because that's what you do when you write songs
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: and you're in a band. So we started doing that,
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: and then that's right when twenty twenty happened and everything
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: shut down and he was like, hey, guys, I like,
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm even going to do this anymore,
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: so here's your sessions.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: Have fun.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: And I was like, okay, well, I used to do
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: pre production for Forever Last all the time, so I'm
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: just going to dive into this. And that, honestly kickstarted
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: me to like really dig in and like honing in
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: on becoming an audio engineer and now that's my full
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: time job.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: So that's so you went from not owning an AMP
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: to owning a whole real.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, way too much equipment.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: I always joke I can't play drums, but I own
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: way too many drums, and my wife's always like, do
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: you really need another snare drum?
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah you can.
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they and then Johno gets the ree of the
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: benefits because he's like, I'll just come over and play cool. Honestly,
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: this dude, if he lived in Nashville, he'd make four
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars a year being a studio drummer because
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: he's stupid good.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: But uh, John, it sounds like he's trying to kick
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: you out of the band and moved.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: For what's funny. So, because our wives are sisters, they're
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: like best friends. So we built houses right next to
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: each other. So literally I hire him to play drums
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: on records all the time.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: He doesn't know the keypad code.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, are you guys just going to start a commune?
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: And they totally would have you like woken up in
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: the middle of the night of just John O. He
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: like keep had it in. And then we just went
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: straight into the studio and started just drumming and.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Going on, no, you sleep next to my sister.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: I honestly don't remember what the question was.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: There was no question.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're just perfecting.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: This is great.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: It's something about being growing up with those twos and
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: nail records, so yes, oh yeah, yeah, the answer is yes,
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: we all did awesome.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: So when when you guys finally are able to like
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: kind of like sink your teeth into getting some recording done,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: getting something like actually put out and stuff. What was
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: what was the feeling like? Because this is really high
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: quality stuff. I mean it's recorded well, it's it's performed well,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: it's written well, it's saying well, everything thing is just
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: it's top notch and it deserves much more of the
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: spotlight right now in my opinion, because it's high quality stuff.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: Saying that means a lot to us because well, like
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: we had our first EP was called the who Cares
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: EP because that was the first song we ever wrote,
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: was called who Cares? Because we literally were like, who cares?
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: If anybody ever likes this stuff? Because we love it,
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: Like this is what we've always wanted to play.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: It just feels right.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: Like we did an interview like last week and Seth
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: literally said, that's just what came out, Like when we
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: started jamming, that's just what happened. Like if death metal
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: would have came out, we would have been a death
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: metal band. But because we all grew up on two
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: thousands pop punk, it just like came out. It's easy
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: to play, it's fun, you can get more. I don't
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: want to say emotional with the lyrics, but you know
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: what I mean, Like you can whine about your dad's
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: not really but uh my dad rubles.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: So I guess I'm not very punk rock.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: But yeah, actually that's the difference between punk rockers and
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: pop punk rockers. I think pop punk rockers have great dads.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that was supportive. All my music career still is.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, pop, that's what the pop comes from exactly.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Man, and I keep forgetting every time you ask a question,
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: we start to go on a tangent.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: I'm like, wait, what did he even ask me again?
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: That's okay, man, It's it's it's not basic.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's not structured. I think it just came out.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: Like because of like we always joke like we yeah,
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: we were in a touring band and stuff, and then
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: Johno grew up in Alabama and then went to like
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: a Bible school in Kansas City and then like he
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: never was in a band until this band, but he
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: played like huge conferences with like thirty thousand people like
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, But like we're all like
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: seasoned musicians, like we've been there.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: We've done it.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: I've like we got to work with well, I say we,
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: but nobody was in Forever Last when we did our record.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Well these two guys weren't. But like we recorded with
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: Matt Old who did like you know, under Roast, like
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: all the good under Roust Records. So I remember being
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: at the studio and like just like Laser focused.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: On like, Okay, what's he doing? Oh my gosh, that
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: snare sounds awesome? What did he do? You know what
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: I mean?
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: Like I was like I was learning from him the
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: whole time we were there. So thank you Victory Records
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: for paying for my schooling.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: But well, and that's the thing that he was like
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: meticulous about that I've heard because I'm always forgetting his name.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: It was at Nate, like Nate Washburn was one of
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: like Goldman's uh interns at one point. Uh, And like
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: that was the thing when we talked about and I've
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: heard this before even like Nate, but like what Goldman
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: is just meticulous about drums? Oh my gosh, our drums.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: Would lose his mind because Goldman, can you just hit
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: the snare harder? He's like, my hand is bleeding. I
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: don't know what you want me to do, and I'm like, dude.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Just hit the just hit the snare harder. Okay, Because like.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Any point could have just stepped in and been like,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: I'll just do it for you.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I always think of that.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: What's that Chariot music video where they like walk through yeah,
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: and he's sitting there playing that part.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's I mean, I think that's what That's
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: why our stuff is like that, because one like I
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: don't know, I don't want to toot my own horn,
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: but I feel like I know what I'm doing, you
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: know what I mean? Yeah, and I do it for
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: a living, so I hope I'm good at it. But
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: then like again, these guys are just awesome musicians, like yeah,
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: like Mike would be like, oh but check out this
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: little lead guitar part and those he actually has, but
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: the keyboards no, and then like no joke, like he's
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: a harmony wizard, like uh, do you know the band
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: the Wedding remember?
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: So back when Mikey was in Forever Last and he
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: would be driving at night, he would put on Polarity
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: and only sing harmonies for the whole record. So like
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: harmonies are like I don't know if he knows how
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: to sing melody. So it's cool because when we go
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: to do vocal production, he's like, oh, but what if
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: I do this high harmony, Oh, I have another high harmony,
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: and then we can do this low one underneath of it.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, yeah, that sounds awesome.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: But so so mikey is is the George Harrison of
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: the band. Yeah, he's got a good voice, but no
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: one's ever gonna tell him that, and uh, he pretty
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: much only sings harmonies and even even when he is
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: singing leads, it sounds like a harmony.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, do you guys want to talk about that?
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: Though?
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: And I know I keep bragging about John Oh could
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: make millions, not millions, but I mean maybe eventually, but probably,
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: Like the dude is literally a human metronome. Like when
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: I go to edit his drums, I'm like, okay, well
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: I just went through three fourths of a song and
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: didn't touch anything, Like it's stupid.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: How how good here?
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: I'm listen, listen, I'm not joking. I've been around a
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: lot of drummers and this dude can play. It's funny,
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: Like I'll hire him to do like hardcore records or
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: like do we just finished a worship record? And like,
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: I mean he can do everything in but I mean
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: most of our stuff is at three hundred bpm, not
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: really but super fast punk stuff. And I remember in
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: the song that we just released, he does this phil
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: that starts on a floor Tom, and I remember when
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: he did it.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: I was like, did you start that on a floor?
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: Tom?
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Like what is wrong with you? And then we hear it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: I'm like, Okay, that's freaking sick. But yeah, here I'm
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: gonna I'm talking too.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Much, Johno. It sounds like he's more into you than
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: your sister.
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a little weird sometimes. No, No, he's very
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: he's very generous and very uh, very kind, like thinking
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: about growing up listening to mxph, re Line, Kate, all
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: these bands for me, specifically not having been in a
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: band before. I remember when we were first recording and
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: we were about to release our first EP. I was
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: like an eleven year old kid again, like getting stoked
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: about new music, but this time it was our music
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: and excuse me and I you know, it's hard not
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: to like pinch myself sometimes and just be like, man,
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: I can't believe I get to do this. It's not
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: like we're you know, we're not going on tours or
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: anything crazy, but uh, it's always been a dream of
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: mine since I was first into music, to be in
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: a band, and to be in a band that plays
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: this specific kind of music and actually did get to
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: do it well because I also grew up in a
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: really small kind of podunk town in Alabama. Shout out
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: not in Alabama. If you're listening to this for some reason,
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: I still love you, but you're a really small town
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: and nobody knows about you, then let's start going to
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: Panama City. But like, uh, well, I forget what I
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: was saying.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I lit it fit. What was I saying?
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: You were talking about how you're you're really excited or
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: you're really happy.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: That you get to do this.
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just it was always a dream of
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: mine to be in a band like this, and so
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: you know we were first record Oh yeah, there was
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: a band that I that I uh actually, the drummer
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: was the one who first taught me drums. He was
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: like teaching me like blank neity two stuff. So I
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: even my foundation of learning to play drums was all
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: pop punk. But they recorded an album, their band, I
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: don't want to say their name in case they don't
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: want me to, but they recorded an album and it
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: sounded like absolute trash. So I just thought that any
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: band's first recording had to sound awful and then you
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: got better as you went along. So when we first
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: were recording stuff and I was like, Wow, this like
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: sounds good and it's like the first real legit band
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: stuff I've done, I was maybe really excited to not
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: have to release a trash album.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: You got to start in the big leagues. You skip
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: triple A ball and you went right to the top.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: That's the way to go. I've got to say that
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: why Cold Streets is so cool to me is that
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: it scratches that that pop punk itch so well, especially
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: with the new tune over and over. It blows my
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: mind like it's it's already caught in my head. It's
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: it's stuck in my head. Been listening to it for
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: a while now, or for not a while. It's only
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: been not a couple of days, but but it feels
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: like I've been listening to it for a while because
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: it I just find myself I'm folding laundry last night
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: and I'm singing it to myself. So there's there's a
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: knack there that you guys have. Who's the who's the
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: primary song or lyric writer I should say.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, i'd say it changes per song, but I
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: think this one I did, Like, I don't know eighty
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: percent of the writing on this one. I'll never I'll
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: never go above eighty on saying any of us wrote
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: a song because the version, I say is not the
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: version that you know you're hearing, but.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Because it is piano parts from Mikey right, that's right.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right for sure? Yeah, So yeah, I think
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I wrote that most of that one, and I do.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I think that for me especially. I know this is
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: for the other guys too, But I just love finding
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: what makes a song catchy, Like I want to be
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: able to listen to it myself and like it. And
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: that sounds kind of dumb, but like every song when
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I start like I have, like I always say, like
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: for every one song you hear of mine, I have
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: like five or six that'll never see the light of
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: day because I'm just I'll just trash it because I
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, even I don't like this, and so you know,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: so I yeah, So I love making stuff catchy. I
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: love trying to find what makes me want to listen
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: to it over and over again.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: And good callback I like that Yeah.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I mean, and I think most you know,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: the thing about pop punk that's cool too lyrically is
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I do think they kind of talked about it before,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: but it scratches an emotional itch that not a lot
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: of other genres kind of touch. And I don't really
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: know exactly what I mean by that, but you just
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: it's one of those things when you know, when you
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: hear it kind of like makes you feel nostalgic.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Without it makes you want to turn your hat backwards
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: and step on a skateboard and right, and maybe like
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: go to like a grill out with your buddies and
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: crack a low alcohol beer and just and.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Just talk Chrispy boys exactly, talk about.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Sports and nothing else in the world matters, but just
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: the dudes that you're hanging with. And maybe maybe Johno's sister, Yes,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: hopefully she's made some like wonderful like like pigs in
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: a blanket or something like that, and you're.
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: Just my mom and make me pig in a blanket, Dude,
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: she covered in like uh, she like glaze it with
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: brown sugar, put it in the crock pot, so it's
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: like a really sweet and saturated.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking to the joke I would make
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: if this wasn't being recorded.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Man, John, wait for my mom.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: I hate my mom.
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: Your mom. It's your name, right, my dad.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: That's fun. That's fun.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just like very impressed by just the music
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: so far. It's again, it's just like it's so I mean,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: it's very two thousands, right, Like I think you guys
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: are sort of like unashamed about that, Like there's no yeah,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: it's just you shouldn't be, yeah, and you shouldn't be
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Like it's just it's so two thousands. But it's just
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: like obviously it's like clearly well produced, just because like
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: you know, Jordan, like obviously you just clearly know what
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: you're doing. And yeah, it's just it's really it's just
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: really well done. I'm like very very impressed. And so yeah,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm excited for for new music to be coming out,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: and so obviously I know the new song just came out, Like,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: is there like hope for more music.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: To come out?
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Like? Because I know when Colin and I, especially with
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: newer bands, like there's kind of this like especially kind
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: of in this time frame of the world of music,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: there's a little bit of like a like an impetus
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: to want to like release like one song at a
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: time kind of thing, or sometimes people like want to
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: release a whole album. But I'm just curious, like where
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: are you at on all of that, Like is there
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: something to like where you're all at to just like
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: release one song out of time right now, or or
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: is there like a new album on the horizons?
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Just the EP?
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: What's what? What can we expect?
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: So yes, we initially were like, let's just write another EP.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: They're quick, they're easy.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: Like the the when did we do the whatever?
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: EP?
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: In twenty three we released like just a quick three
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: song EP, and our goal with that was literally we
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: got together one weekend, wrote three songs and then recorded
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: them all the next weekend and I mixed it and
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: mastered it and it was done, like literally in the
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: course of four days, we wrote and recorded a record,
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: oh a three song EP. So it's not as impressive
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: as it sounds, but it is and it was fun.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: But like, our goal was, like, let's just write a
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: QUICKIP that's fast and aggressive, and that's what you can
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: tell if you listen to it. It's way more aggressive
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: than over and over, but we did that and then
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: we kind of just like we had Over and Over
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: kind of demoed out for a while, and a couple
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: other songs demoed out, and then we were like, hey,
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: let's just do another EP. And then we finished over
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: and over and we were all like, yeah, this is cool,
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: let's just finish that. And then Seth sent demo after
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: demo after demo after demo that we all were like, Okay,
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: this song's awesome. Okay, this song's awesome. This song's awesome.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: And then Jhono sends a song. We're like, okay, well,
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: that song's awesome. And then Mikey sends a song that
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: has no piano in it and it's awesome, and like
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: literally just kept like stacking up and stacking up and
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: stacking up. So the hope there is it's not a hope.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: We are working on a full length. When that will
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: come out. We will figure that out, because it's hard
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: when you do this for a living finding the time
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: to be like.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Hey, let's work on our own stuff.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: But John lives next door and Seth sent me all
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: of the logic files like sessions that he demoed, so
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: I'm like let's just start tracking, guys.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know I can do it so anyway, So.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: We are there will be a full length soon. And
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I talk to you guys about
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: telling everybody that, but it doesn't matter the band meeting.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: You guys can join all of our band meetings. Cool,
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: But we've also been working on.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: This is a while ago.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: But do you guys remember when Wolves at the Gate
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: put out that like the songs they listened to on
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: the bus, it was like.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: The cover EP or whatever.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I always love that because they did a
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: Thursday song and I love Thursday growing up, so I
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: was like, hmm.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Super tight.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: But we were like, why don't we all just pick
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: a song that we grew up loving and let's just
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: cover it and put it out. So that will probably
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: come out next because it's so easy. Like literally, Seth
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: just sent me all of the demos. He like he
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: demoed all of them out and just sent them to me,
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, cool, Jhono can track all of those
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: in thirty minutes, So that is probably what we'll put
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: out next.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Can you can you give us like a hint at
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: maybe what one of the tunes is.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'll tell you all four of them.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know, let's do it. Okay, good, that's what
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I was hoping for.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: I'll let I'll let everybody tell what song they picked.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: I'm a huge starting line fan, so I picked the
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: song up and go by the starting line. Yes, and
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: then here's mikey.
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: Uh shocker MxPx my life story nice. So that's a
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: good one. That is a very good one. That's one
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: of my favorites.
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: That's another one we just play randomly when we were
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: bored at practice. I picked Chapstick, chap lips and things
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: like chemistry by relying.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, one of the most I wouldn't say it's the
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: most but one of the most underrated reliant case songs. Yeh.
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: That whole album is like we played it live at
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: our last show. Oh yeah, so good, Absolutely love it.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Did you have a bunch of like senior edizens in
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: the background.
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: We should we should get all of our living grandparents and.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of walkers flying in the area sharing
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: the song. Better Mine is a Daylight by Ambulance.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good one. I love the love the
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: mixture of tunes in there too. This is this is
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: fun This is a great idea, Amore. I feel like
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: we got the same music.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: To my goodness.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: What's funny though, is I Know My Life Story by MxPx.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: We had talked about Mikey singing it because it's like
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: his song, and every time we jam at Mikey sings it.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: And then Seth Sen's a demo of it, and I
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: was like, this is just my Carrera singing on this song.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: So I'm like, this is going to be hard to
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: decide if Seth sings it or Mikey sings it, because
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: I literally the demo.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I was definitely trying to sound like my like very much.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: One of the first songs we wrote, Seth literally sounds
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: exactly like Mike and I'm like, well, cool, I guess
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: we're MxPx.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Well then that made that means that Mikey has to
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: do it.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: Then yeah, I mean, yes, that's our The thing is
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: is like the starting line MxPx in Reliant k that's
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: kind of what our band sounds like anyway. So those
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: songs will be basically Cold Street songs, you know what
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: I mean. But the Amber Amberlin one I'm really excited
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: about because like, do we just do a straight cover
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: of it or do we you know, do a lot
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: in it, you know what I mean, like trying to figure.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Out I would personally love to see like a more
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: pop punk version of that song.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Perfectly there it is, that's what we do.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: It is basically a pop punk song, you know, if
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: it was maybe a different singer.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing about Actually Colin and I we've
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: talked about this too, Like there's something about the fact
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: that Amberlin, especially early on, maybe less so later on,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: but early on, like it's it's a heavy band like that.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: They've got some like really heavy riffs that could have
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: like been like almost even like borderline, just like a
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: hard rock song. But because Steven singing was so like
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: soft and melodic, it does didn't come across that way
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: If you see him live at least they were screaming.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: They're my favorite bane of all time. And so the
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: last podcast we did, I went on like a five
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: minute rant about amber Win.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: So don't get him started, all right, Well, let's get
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: him started. So the question is now that Maddy Mullen,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: is it a pop punk.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: To do it?
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: Now?
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: It's not a pop bunk pin.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: I was just I was trying to get you to go.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, bro, I'm about to go. Let me in, coach,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: tab me in, bro, I mean, you actually want me
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: to go.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: I just watched a live performance of Maddie Mullins just
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: hyping like crazy on stage, and it definitely has a
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: more pop punk vibe. And then he throws in the
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: you know, the growls every once in a while. It
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: makes it even a little bit extra spicy.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, like I said, they've been my
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: So the reason I chose a day late on that
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: song is because that song in particular, just kicked me
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: into wanting to play music. I don't know, I don't
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: know what it is about that song. I was a
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: kid and I was an elementary you know, an elementary school,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: and I was homeschooled, and I literally played that song
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: on loop while I was just like doing eight hours
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: of school. I don't know what it was about that song.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: But wait, homeschool kids actually do like long days of
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: school like that.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know, probably it's probably like two hours, but
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: you know, he was a kid, it was a full day. Yeah.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: But but man, you know, Amber Lynn, they I think
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: the reason they were so successful is because kind of
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: what you just said is like of just Steven's voice.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: It's like they could do super heavy stuff and they
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: had like then you have Unwinding Cable Car and like
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: every album it seems like they touch on something different
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: and like almost every song like you have like like
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: oh Man, like self starter on on Devotion that's a
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: heavy song. Like uh, there's the name of the songs
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: escape me now, but there's songs that are literally drop
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: b which is like a metal toning, you know. So
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: with that being said, uh, you know, I you know,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I I've I wasn't like the biggest Memphis fan, but
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: you know I liked I liked Memphis May Fire as well.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: But Maddie has one of those voices that whenever he sings,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: whatever he sings on sounds like Memphis and it sounds
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: like him, which is which is cool, right, but like
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: to me, like when he came over to amberl In,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: it just sounds like a Memphis thing. Interesting he's especially
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: because like he's done other things like did you listen
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: to as too, maybe just one solo worship album thing,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I haven't it he did it was like a while ago,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: but I I listened to that and it sounds like
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: that like, which is not a dig or anything, but
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: it just it just does. And then I don't know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: being the being the OG fan on the last podcast,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I was drinking coffee and I had the uh, the
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: mug that from their final tour in twenty fourteen from
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: the merch package, and I was like, they're like, what's
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: your position on the Mattie mall and say, I just
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: held it up my mug and I'm like, this was
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: from the final tour in twenty fourteen. So I don't know.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I I loved that they came back. I went and
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: saw him when Steven was touring with them, and yeah,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: but you know, I just to me Amberlain was was
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: the was the one that stopped in twenty fourteen, you know,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: and love that they're still doing stuff. But to me,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I really you really feel Stephen not there because he's
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: to me that that band or his voice really concreted
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: them in like history and of music history and this
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: like right punk rock whatever world, just because it's unique.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: He's just a unique dude.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: And Mason and I just got to see Stephen Christian
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: playing with Amberlyn in October.
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: Oh, it.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Was awesome.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Well well, and then even before that I did see,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Well it wasn't Stephen, but I did see Maddy play
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: with them. God, was that like in March or like
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: March or April of last year when they when they
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: played in the Twin Cities with Copeland on that tour,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: and uh, you know that that was right around the
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: time that you know, Maddie had like just recently been
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: kind of like fully initiated into the band. And yeah,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: it's one of those things where it's like, I think
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: part of it is like Steven's voice is so unique
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: that when his voice is not in it, it's very
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: obvious versus probably a lot of other singers if you replace,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: you know, a singer. It's just it's so obvious because
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Steven's voice is like pretty unreplica, Like you can't replicate
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: his voice at all.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's not, let's not belabor the Amberling point to watch.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: I can see, I can see the rest of the bank.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: We've heard this, we've heard this song and dance before.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: All right, So where do you guys want to go
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: with this? Like obviously got new tunes coming out and everything,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: but do you want this thing to blow up and
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: just go absolutely nuts? Or is this is this like, hey,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: we're just having a blast doing this with ourselves and
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: if if people listen to it, great, if they don't know,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: big deal, we don't necessarily need to go on tour
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: or anything like that. What's what's the what's the goal?
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: I would say that to be honest with you, Like
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: we always joke if MxPx wants to put us on
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: the two shows that they play like every three months,
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: we will gladly do them. But I mean, honestly, now
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: we just we play a lot of festivals. Like that's
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: something I know we're gonna talk about it later, but
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: they just announced today that we are on audio Feed
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: this year play direct support for Run Kid Run on
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: their twentieth anniversary of what's the record.
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: Called We've Only just begun? I think, right, yeah, okay, yeah,
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: twenty years.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: But anyway, so like that's kind of our vibe. We
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: always when we started, we were like, we don't have
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: to play all the time, but I'd love to just
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: be a festival ban that just goes and plays and
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: has fun.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if people enjoy it and cool.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: I mean again, if something happened and they were like, hey,
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: you just want a tour full time first, I would say,
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: as long as I don't have to sleep in a
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: van because I did that and it sucks, and now.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: I'm much older.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: We always joke well after we play shows now, like
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: my knees hurt for like three days, so maybe tour
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: is for me anymore.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: But yeah, you can go ahead.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: It'd have to be like, uh, it have to be
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: some serious coin involved to get us to tour. We've
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: all got most of us have kids now and uh,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: we've all got big boy jobs. So I think it
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: would take some serious coin to uh not saying it's impossible.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I'll never say it's impossible, but people.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: The carrot and see what happens is what you're trying
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: to say.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Dangle dangle that carre guys, Yep, that's it, love it,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: love it?
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: All right?
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Should we get into you guys' top two most influential albums?
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, all right, let's go. Let's go
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: down the line. Are each one of you ready?
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: I did five because I was told five, but I
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: can try to narrow it down to two.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: We didn't we didn't know the whole band was coming on,
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: so yeah, otherwise otherwise we want to you too. So
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: now I got to narrow it down.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I I also picked five, but.
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: I would say for me number one is say it
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: like you mean it by the starting line nice kind
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: of because Kenny was like two years older than me
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: when that record came out, and then like I grew
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: up with Kenny, if that makes sense, Like as his
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: songwriting matured, I was maturing with him. So that record
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: always is like boom, gosh though.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Boom that's a good that's a good adjective.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: Boom.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: Second, man, I have to take the other four and
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: figure out which one I like the best or which
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: one influenced me the most. Honestly, it's probably Brand New
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: Eyes by Paramore, because that's that that record from start
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: to finish. Every song is perfect, Like there's not like
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: a skip. Well, okay, only exception is the only exception.
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: For me, I will skip that song every.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: Time I listen to that record. But no, that I
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: just it's so well recorded.
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, when you spend that kind of money
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: in to record a record, it's gonna sound awesome. But
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: like I don't know, songwriting is just phenomenal. I always
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: say that was peak Paramore, and then they turned into
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: an eighties.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: Pop rock band.
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I just want to tell you my other three.
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: I can do them real fast.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: If you want a rapid fire them, go aheady.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: Crimson by Alkaline.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Trio, Oh yeah, Okay, Full of War.
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: By a band called Conditions. Conditions, No, not familiar.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: They opened the Brain New Eyes tour.
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: I imagine that, and then honestly, probably they're only chasing
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: safety by under.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Ros for sure enough natural right.
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: Yes, man that it's gonna be tough too, because I
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: I love heavy music as well, but my my top
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: two aren't heavy really.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: But if you want to, if you want to, if
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: you want to go into depth of your top two,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: and then rapid fire the other three.
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: Ye, it's perfectly fun, awesome, awesome, Okay, So Polarity by
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: the Wedding, that's probably one of my number one albums
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: of all time.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: That's probably the first time the wedding has ever been
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: mentioned in time we've had.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: We've had the wedding one other time. I do you remember.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: I don't remember really, but it was like it was
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: like three or four years ago.
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: Man. They're one of those bands I just feel like
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: they are just so underrated, like they should have been huge.
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: In my opinion obviously, but I love those boys. They're amazing.
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: Hell yeah, really influenced me a lot, so i'd say
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: comes as no surprise, uh the ever passing moment by
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: m XPX that that album was huge for me really,
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: uh I think shaped you know how I play and
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: like just even some of the basslines, like I used
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: to just lock myself in my room and play that
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: thing front to back over and over over and over.
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: But uh yeah, but so those those two for sure,
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: so rapid fire. I'd say, under Oath the changing of times,
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: and then obviously they're only chasing safety. Was you know
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: after that and that one, you know, blew Up. I
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: was also a big fan of that, and then I
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: definitely have to shout out haste the day burning bridges,
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: you know from Indianapolis where we're from. So yeah, great picks,
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: so good, but that's mine.
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: My number one is probably two left on Maker right
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: at three du Barlan k oh yeah, another one same
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: to like what Jordan said about Brand New Eyes, I
• 48:56
  Speaker 7: just I don't skip any songs when I listened to that,
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: even the weird like vocal stem track they have, I
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: don't even know what it is, but like talking to
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: a fan or some random civilian or something. I'm just like,
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: why is that call it.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: A I love that you call it a vocal stem track.
• 49:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know what they would. I think it's
• 49:13
  Speaker 7: just called untitled and it's like Matt or somebody just
• 49:16
  Speaker 7: talking to some random girl. I don't even know what
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: they're talking about. I'm like, why is this on the album?
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: But I love that it is because it's just so
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: weird and random. And then of course that was the
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: first album that I had experience with a secret track
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: where they had this like oh yeah.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: They must have been like, I don't know, slap happy
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: one night and just recorded some really dumb track that
• 49:37
  Speaker 7: was like forty minutes after the last song. Of course,
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: now we like listen to it on Spotify and you
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: can see the time of the song, it's like forty
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: five minutes. It's like, oh, there's probably a secret track
• 49:47
  Speaker 7: on there. Anyway. My number two is Satellite by pod
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: n So definitely throwing back to like the Youth Group,
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: even pre Youth Group days. For me, that was the
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: first album I remember listening to being like I want
• 50:00
  Speaker 7: to learn how to play drums. All the drums on
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: this album, I'm just like, like, the Youth of the
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: Nation is probably one of the first drum beats I learned,
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: because I was just like, that sounds so cool, and
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: I thought it was gonna be like, like the hardest
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: drum beat I'd ever learned, And now I'm like, you know,
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: it's not hard, but it is pretty cool, Like I
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: don't know. Yeah, So those two, for sure, I think
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: in the early days of learning that I loved music
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: were the ones that like really drove me to like, Okay,
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: I want to learn how to play this stuff. And
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: then Rapid Fire, Sticks and Stones by Newfound Glory, No Surprise,
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: Gone a Yeah. Also another secret track album before Everything
• 50:37
  Speaker 7: and After by MxPx as another one that I just
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: played on repeat when it came out, and then defined
• 50:42
  Speaker 7: the great line by under Oath We're.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Gonna get a whole lot of.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: And a lot of under Oath.
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we all pretty much liked the same music across
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: the board.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: Sorry, this is just.
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: A quick funny thing. Today Jordan, my wife, girl Jordan,
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: was going we are we Are, and she goes the
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: Kids of the Nation and I was like, yeah, you
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: didn't grow up in a youth group that listen to
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: pod for sure.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: Anyway, go Seth.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: Speaking of strange earworms that you maybe hear wrong or
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: you think wrong every once in a while. So I
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: was telling you that over and over has been stuck
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: in my head. Right, Yes, it's fun because I'll sing
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: I'll be like singing that, and then all of a
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: sudden I'll start going Crimson and clover and over and over.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Little little uh Jimmy World pops in there.
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: Oh, I need to read my top records because future
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: future up there for me too.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, good call, all right, Seth, al right.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Seth, all right. Well, uh we already talked about Amberlin,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: but uh, Cities by Amberlin. It's my favorite, one of
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: my fire my top favorite right there. Number one. Did
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: you have the.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Opportunity to see Ambulance live during that that album cycle?
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: No, I so, uh. I I don't know why. I
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: just never every time they were in town when I
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: first got it or when I was into them, you know,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: and they were still pretty active. I just I always
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: had something going on. I always I could never make
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: it for some reason. Like I was, I was a
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: lot younger, so I mean sure, I just couldn't always
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: drive there whatever yeah, yeah, so short answers. No, it sucks.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: The you know, it's surprisingly the Uh. The first times
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: I saw them were all during their last two years,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: which sucks, but whatever. Uh, but yeah, The Cities is
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: like it's one of those ones that kind of touches
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: everything you got. Yeah, I don't know. I I think
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: like the way I write now, it's like like the
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: guys will tell you, like this this band actually right here.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: I write for a metal or a hardcore as well
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: that my brother's in and then all right, like I
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: was working on some soft stuff with my wife earlier.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: So I think like that album just shapes how I think,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: and I think like in a wide like a wide
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: spec on genre, and it really just kind of opened
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: my mind so like what I want my own writing
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: to be.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Like one of my favorite intro songs ever, like I
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: will sometimes just listen to the intro song going into
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Godspeed like just for that like that transition, because that
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: transition just goes so hard, it's so good.
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: That's the best.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Man number two. I had brand new eyes on there
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: as well. If if Jordan didn't say that, I'd say that,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: but uh, I'm gonna go uh with Ruths above, I
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: proughta a second I was that was that was the
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: band that really them an under oath, you know, got
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: me into you know, heavy music, especially Plagues. But I
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: remember Roots came out right around my I forget what
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: age I was, but right around my birthday, and so
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: I was already I listened to Plagues a ton, and
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: then that came out and I was sold out. And
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: then the coolest thing I can say about Prada that
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I I can't say about any other band is that
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: they've literally evolved as I have evolved. Like their first
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: their first couple records are obviously like you know black,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: you know metal, you know, and then like as it
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: goes on, as it goes on, like they become like
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: just like an absolute you know, I don't even know
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: what to call it, but it's just like, oh, there's
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: there's there's a clear evolution there. Yeah right, oh dude.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Like I wish I could say my favorite was eight
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: eighteen because that would be the closest number two, which
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: is I know, it's like their least favorite, but that
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: was that was the record that again changed like how
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: I view heavy music. It just it just evolved, you know,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: It's just evolved how I think musically, and even it's
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: funny even now, like they play softer stuff and now
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I'm in a pop punk band, and so it's like
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: literally as I've evolved, like they have also done. Every
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: time they release a record, it's like a new chapter
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: in my own musical journey. I don't know. Yeah makes sense,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: which which I've got to meet him a few times
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: because him and Jordan are buddies, uh like Mike and
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Jordan friends, So I've gotten Yeah, yeah, I had. Then
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I had to define the great line and by reliant
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: ka nice.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: So a number of under oaths obviously Paramore, like you
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: guys really truly do have the same music.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: Taste, don't you.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: It works works in MxPx. I totally missed them too,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: like it's crazy. Yeah, wow, Well I definitely can hear
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: all of that, like obviously under Oath, mx p X, Paramount.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: You can hear all of it in you guys music,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: which is really cool. So it's always like really fun
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: to hear the influences and then hear how those influences
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: actually show up in your own music. That's always fun.
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, thanks.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Well sick, all right, what would you guys like to plug.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Well, we just released a song and video over just
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: over and over. Hopefully very soon we'll get some more
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: stuff out, so definitely keep an eye on, you know,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: all of our social media posts and stuff, because we
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: like to just kind of drop it without a lot
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: of notice. I think we gave I think we gave
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: a week's notice on this coming out. And he shout
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: out to Paul from Small Step Records too for helpless
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: not with that and he's been a huge help with
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: this song in video as well. So yeah, he shot
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: to him, have.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: You guys enjoyed being on Small Step because it seems
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: like they're like a cool, like mom and pop kind
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: of kind of group.
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: Paul randomly reached out to us a long time ago,
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: like right when we started and released our first like
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: couple songs, and I was like, hey, I just I
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: kind of did what you guys are doing, Like if
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: you have any interest, let me know, and like again,
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: we were on a label, and I was just like,
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: come on, man, I have zero interest in signing with
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: anybody or having like the pressure to do something, you
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: know what I mean.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: Right, And so I just was flat out with him.
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: I was like hey, man, you know, we're not really
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: looking for anything like that, but thank you for reaching out.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: And then I.
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: Don't remember when it was, probably when we did our
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: whatever EP in twenty three he like, either I can't
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: remember if I reached out to him again and was like, hey, like,
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: what do you guys do because I'd seen more and
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: more of his bands and just kind of curious, and
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: he was like, honestly, I have no agenda for you guys.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: If you want to release some music and never play
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: a show, I don't care. I just want to support
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: you guys and try to get to your guys' music
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: in an into people's hands.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: That's sick.
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: Nobody buys physical copies of music anymore, but you know
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: what I mean.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Their ears.
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and.
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, He's been honestly really cool and super supportive and
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: again doesn't pressure us to do anything, and it's awesome.
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: That's sick because it makes like it makes me like
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: have the desire to actually do something, because you know,
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: before it was like, hey, you have to do these
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: many records that you have to play this much, you
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: have to do this, this, this and this, this and this,
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: and it's like.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: How much was the how many records of Victory. You
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: want that failed to deal with like seven.
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: That's that's what the first contract not signed.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: That that's some crazy contracts Christmas crazy.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: Victory Records is the king of contracts.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: Don't they literally have a name for it now, like
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: a Victory contract. Probably I've heard that said. It's probably
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: there was another there was another band that that called
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: it a Victory contract, and I had no idea what
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: it meant. Yeah, I think I just put the beasts together.
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, on one end, kind of genius business move.
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: But also these are kids that don't know what they're
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: doing and you're getting them right contracts.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Sign Yeah, they see a lawyer show up and they're like, fuck.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: No, I dude. Honestly, I remember when we got our
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: first contract.
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: We were like, we're hiring an entertainment lawyer and we're
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: going to dissect this. And honestly, we didn't have a
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: bad experience. The only issue we ever had was like
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: the day our record came out was the week that
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: Victory was suing Spotify and like rip their whole like
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: taking Back Sunday and all those old band like the
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: whole catalog, they like ripped it off of Spotify because
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: they were in a big.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Loss well and all their attention went to that. Like
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not kidding when I say this that Paul from
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Small Step has done more for us than Victory did
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: for fal during that album's release week. Like, yeah, it
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: was so.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: Anyway, you might have to cut a lot of this interview.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: This is great, don't ye, this is important anymore?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: So there you go. And was there anything else you'd like?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: I mean we had a if you come to a show,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: just don't freak out if George Clooney also walks in
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: George Clooney because Mikey Mikey doesn't want to say it,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: but they're related. You can see it.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: See, Oh yeah, I can see it.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: What so I don't like it out of you?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: What's the relate? You asked, what's the relationship?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Nephew? What's Yeah? Tell us Mikey.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 6: He guessed it. That was probably the first time someone's
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: actually guessed it, right. But yeah, old okay, nephew, Yeah,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: good old uncle George.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: You know wow, So uncle George, what's you like at
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: like family Christmases or or at or at Thanksgiving?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: I mean, just as handsome and and and as you'd expect.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Does at he doesn't. He cut the turkey with his chin.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: Thanks. He that's that's a secret. Not too many people
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: are supposed to know that.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: So you're not supposed to play favorites with your family.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: But do you have a favorite Clooney flick or television show?
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 6: Mmm?
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Batman?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: Batman's a good choice. I didn't.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: I always Rob Batman.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd say probably oceans. Yeah, oceans are good and
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: me the er Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, dude's good.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: You've been watching the pit Oh?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: I love the Pit Man.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: It's dude, it's good.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: Wife is My wife is a nurse practitioner, so she's
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: like guessing what le the malady is before before they
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: ever talked about it, and she's right like nine percent
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: of the It blows my mind.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: There needs to be like there needs to be like
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: a uh you know how like you know, for sports,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: there's like sports gambling and you know all the like
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: uh you know, over unders and all.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: The things like that.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: There needs to be like a nurse version of that
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: for the pit.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that would be amazing.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: Man would amazing. Dude, Uncle Coloney, huh that a good.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 6: Old say, Uncle George, Uncle Jill.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So if you if that audio feed he's standing
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: in the back, or you see Adu with shades and
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: a hood on, just just don't say.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: Get that he was Batman.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: And I always forget to ask Mikey like being a
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: kid when Batman Roman came out, Like, I can't even
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: imagine how cool that.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Was Uncle George just another day in Uncle George's life.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: That was the time of the uh like the the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: super sick uh like like ten pack suit, right, the
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: plastic scene suit.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: No, no, it was real.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: Only Mike you can tell us whether or not it's real.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: Well, I don't know, man, that's another trade secret too.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: I don't know. It's what he.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: Used to wash the clothes against that washboard.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: Dude, that's a funny image.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 6: Oh man.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: When I think of young Mikey, I still think of
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: young Mikey having salt and pepper hair.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I still think of you know, I still think of
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: was just as tall. He can't see it, but Mikey's
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: like six three or something, So I just can't imagine
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: being any shorter than it is.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: My poor mom.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's she's a she's.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: A's given Bertha a giraffe.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: Something like that.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Well, guys, Thank you so much for chatting Moore about
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: uh yeah, Cold Streets just so good. I'm excited for
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: wherever uh this will take you. Uh yeah, It's just
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: it's super cool. You know the fact that you guys
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: are you know, most of you, we're all in this band.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: You know that kind of ended not the best, and
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: then you're able to now get into this you know,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: creative place where you all are just like really loving it,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: enjoying it. I just think it's super cool. So I'm
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: excited for all the new music. It's it's everything that
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: has already come out has been amazing, and I'm just
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: excited for more.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: Thank you, Thank you guys so much.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Well