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The Late Debate | 14 April · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Welcome Wait Bay, Well, good evening. It's great to have
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Speaker 1: your company on the late debate. I'm James Macpherson with
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Speaker 1: Caleb Bond and filling in for Liz Storer rocking the
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Speaker 1: Fara Force.
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Speaker 2: That look is Denika de Georgio.
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Speaker 3: You are Charlie's angels tonight. The of us are Charlie's angel.
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Speaker 4: I thought we had a different bond girl, for sure
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Speaker 4: you could.
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Speaker 3: Apparently not.
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Speaker 1: I have to say, before we came on here, Denika
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Speaker 1: was posing like she was one of Charlie's.
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Speaker 4: Tell everybody, you've got a little here we there we go.
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Speaker 2: Very good? Is all right? We've got a lot to
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Speaker 2: get into tonight.
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Speaker 1: The coalition trailing in the polls have come up with
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Speaker 1: a rap song attacking Anthony Albanesi. Could that be the
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Speaker 1: thing that changes the direction of this election. We'll let
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Speaker 1: you decide when we play it a little later. Plus,
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Speaker 1: when we look at the papers, the ABC in hot
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Speaker 1: water for apparently insulting the Australian War Memorial and a
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Speaker 1: fresh plot to our Liberal MP. More redeem from the
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Speaker 1: Victorian Liberal Party is if the Liberals needed.
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Speaker 2: More strife in Victoria.
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Speaker 1: We'll get to that when we look at what's making
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Speaker 1: headlines tomorrow. But first, obviously, as you are very well aware,
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Speaker 1: in three weeks time Australians go to the ballot box
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Speaker 1: for what most people are insisting as one of the
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Speaker 1: most consequential elections.
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Speaker 2: We've had in years.
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Speaker 1: The economy is an absolute disaster, national security as a shambles,
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Speaker 1: immigration is out of control, power bills are unaffordable. And
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Speaker 1: what do you think everybody's talking about whether or not
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Speaker 1: Senator Jacinta Nampa Jimber Price should have said make Australia
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Speaker 1: great again. Those four words have dominated the political debate
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Speaker 1: in the last twenty four hours. The senator uttered those
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Speaker 1: fateful four words during a press conference over the weekend
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Speaker 1: with Peter Dutton.
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Speaker 2: Here's a reminder of what happened.
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Speaker 5: I'm so proud to be able to stand beside and
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Speaker 5: to ensure that we can make Australia right again, that
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Speaker 5: we can bring Australia back to its form glory, that
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Speaker 5: we can get Australia back on track.
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Speaker 1: Well, the media and the government immediately seized on her
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Speaker 1: use of that phrase and accused Senator Price of channeling
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Now, I found it kind of amusing that
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Speaker 1: that's where we've gotten to.
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Speaker 2: And you would have thought that would be the end
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Speaker 2: of it.
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Speaker 1: Just Enter Price said she didn't realize she'd made the comment,
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Speaker 1: and that may well have been the case. National's leader
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Speaker 1: David little Proud said it was an inadvertent slip of
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Speaker 1: the tongue. But then, thanks to some brilliant investigative journalism,
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Speaker 1: a damning photograph turned up of Senator Price and her
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Speaker 1: husband Colin wearing make America Great Again habs for Christmas.
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Speaker 1: And this is proof, as if we needed it, that
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Speaker 1: just into Price and the entire Liberal Party a channeling
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Speaker 1: the evil Donald Trump. There's a couple of things about this,
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Speaker 1: Caleb and Danika that really annoyed me. First, this illustrates
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Speaker 1: the inanity of the political discourse in this country.
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Speaker 2: We're headed for a national debt of a trillion dollars,
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Speaker 2: but that's not the problem.
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Speaker 1: The problem is that the Center Price used a phrase
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Speaker 1: borrowed from the evil Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: Second, it demonstrates the low.
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Speaker 1: Opinion our political leaders have of the Australian public. As
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Speaker 1: if we really believe that if someone says make Australia
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Speaker 1: Great Again, that's proof positive that we're going to end
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Speaker 1: up a clone of America probably the fifty first state
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Speaker 1: or the fifty second state if Trump nuke's Canada. It
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Speaker 1: also demonstrates what a threat to center Price is to
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Speaker 1: the left. She's clearly the most articulate of the coalition MPs.
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Speaker 1: When she speaks, people listen, people trust her, and so
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Speaker 1: rather than take issue with any of her policy portfolios,
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Speaker 1: they've taken issue with four words that she said in
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Speaker 1: order to smear her as a Donald Trump clone and
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Speaker 1: therefore right off and dismiss everything that she stands for.
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Speaker 1: But just on that point, the thing that annoys me
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Speaker 1: is that the Liberal Party didn't seem to own this.
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Speaker 1: I mean, what's wrong with making Australia great again? And
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Speaker 1: what's wrong with borrowing a couple of policies if that
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Speaker 1: indeed is what they're doing, And I suspect they are
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Speaker 1: with just Enterprise's doge like policy responsibility, where she's responsible
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Speaker 1: for cutting government waste. But I mean, so what if
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Speaker 1: she's channeling a little bit of the best of Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump Anthony ALBANIZI once channeled was it Michael Douglas speech
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Speaker 1: from the president, So it's just enterprise. If she is
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Speaker 1: channelling Trump, she's channeling a real person, unlike Elbanisi who
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Speaker 1: channeled a fictional character.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, my problem with this, firstly with that photo that
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Speaker 3: was dug up. It was actually dug up by our
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Speaker 3: friends over at the Guardian. Nonetheless, they've done some excellent journalism.
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Speaker 3: They found that photo and they went to town with her.
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Speaker 3: Look whole big scary there she is just in Deprice
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Speaker 3: at her husband. Making America great again. Controversial. Oh, for
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Speaker 3: goodness sake, Who who cares if they're wearing maga hats?
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Speaker 3: I don't care. It's not going to affect. It's not
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Speaker 3: going to change anything, is not going to change any discourse.
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Speaker 3: Who really cares? And God forbid that we actually want
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Speaker 3: to make Australia great again. What do you think? Let's
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Speaker 3: paint the picture of our country right now. Cost of
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Speaker 3: living crisis, housing crisis, We've got terrorist flags being waved
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Speaker 3: so brazenly in the streets, protests week in week out.
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Speaker 3: People have been brought into this country, some who hate us,
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Speaker 3: some who do not want to assimilate in this country.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's not the country that many of us
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Speaker 3: know and love. Many of us grew up in a
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Speaker 3: country that we don't even recognize anymore. So God forbid,
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Speaker 3: we actually do want to make Australia great again. I
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Speaker 3: am very disappointed that the Liberal Party have not owned this.
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Speaker 3: In fact, they have not been rolling just into price
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Speaker 3: out from the very beginning. They should have. They have
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Speaker 3: kept her on the back burner. She only really joined
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Speaker 3: the campaign when you think about it, in the last week.
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Speaker 3: Correct me if I'm wrong. It's only been in the
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Speaker 3: last week. She is the secret weapon. Australians love her.
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Speaker 3: They took to her obviously during this voice campaign. And
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Speaker 3: my question now is have they kept her hidden because
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Speaker 3: she's become the face of doge and that's their worry
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Speaker 3: now that they've been that they've so been painted like
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump and Donald Trump's policies that they've got we
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Speaker 3: better keep her to the side.
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Speaker 4: And this is the worrying thing about all of this.
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Speaker 4: I mean, look from a strategic point of view, or
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Speaker 4: the fallout from this was probably predictable and so from
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Speaker 4: that point of view, to open your mouth and say
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Speaker 4: make Australia graggin was probably dumb to some degree because
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Speaker 4: you could have seen this coming a mile off. We
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Speaker 4: knew it was going to happen. They're seizing on polling
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Speaker 4: we've seen recently showing that Donald Trump is quite unpopular
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Speaker 4: in Australia. And we know, of course that Alberizi has
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Speaker 4: benefited from the tariffs that Trump has slapped on us.
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Speaker 4: Ten percent. That the lowest that was given to anyone,
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Speaker 4: So it wasn't that big of a deal, but Albanizi
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Speaker 4: has benefited from it. But what it proves to me
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Speaker 4: is that this campaign is so bereft of any vision anywhere.
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Speaker 4: Two things. You've got a center right politician, mainstream right
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Speaker 4: politician saying similar things to a mainstream right politician in
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Speaker 4: another part of the world. So what's the big deal? Like,
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Speaker 4: you know, people carry on in Australia like Donald Trump
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Speaker 4: is some sort of bogey man, and oh, I can't
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Speaker 4: believe those stupid Americans who voted for him. The majority
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Speaker 4: of American electors voted for him. He is a main stream,
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Speaker 4: center right politician. He's not some strange, far right right
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Speaker 4: sort of bloke like they try to make out he is.
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Speaker 4: But the reason they're so upset that she would try
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Speaker 4: to use the language of a man who actually has
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Speaker 4: vision and an idea for what he wants his country
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Speaker 4: to look like. And that of course is Donald Trump
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Speaker 4: in the US. Is that no one in this election
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Speaker 4: actually seems to have any serious vision, and the Coalition
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Speaker 4: is just as guilty of that as the Labor Party.
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Speaker 4: Everyone is talking about what's happened for the last three
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Speaker 4: years and maybe what will happen tomorrow, as opposed to
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Speaker 4: how this country will look in ten years time. And
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Speaker 4: so when you use the phrase make Australia great again,
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Speaker 4: you're talking about the future. And somehow that seems to
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Speaker 4: be a crime in politics these days to actually talk
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Speaker 4: about how you want to improve your country, and that
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Speaker 4: means talking about big picture, long term things like reforming
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Speaker 4: government spending, like reforming immigration, etc. All the stuff that
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Speaker 4: people don't seem to want to touch because they just
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Speaker 4: want to limp through an election with lots of money
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Speaker 4: and promises that get them over the line so they
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Speaker 4: can plant their bums on the leather seats in Parliament
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Speaker 4: again for another three years. Well I'm sick of it.
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Speaker 3: Well it's actually feeding into the left's narrative. The left
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Speaker 3: loved it's the modus operandi to create this fear, and
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Speaker 3: we actually saw it in the US in the lead
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Speaker 3: up to the US election. Remember it was the Democrats.
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Speaker 3: It was the lefty media over there, the liberal media.
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Speaker 3: They really push this fear that Donald Trump is going
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Speaker 3: to take over American and he's going to be big
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Speaker 3: and evil and all these bad things are happening, and
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Speaker 3: you can see exactly what is happening here in Australia.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 3: It's the same narrative, but they're painting the Liberals as
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Speaker 3: the big, bad, scary book.
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Speaker 1: That's the irony, right. So the Democrats in the US
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Speaker 1: Trump is Hitler. The Labor Party in Australia Duton is Trump.
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Speaker 1: So they're stealing from the Democrats' playbook and then accusing
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Speaker 1: the Liberal Party of aping the Republicans.
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Speaker 4: It's pathetic, isn't it. And this is what happens when
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Speaker 4: you're up with all these people who keep getting churned
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Speaker 4: out of universities and they've had all this lefty stuff
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Speaker 4: implanted in their brains, and the Greens know what's good
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Speaker 4: for them. They want more of these people, of course,
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Speaker 4: so they've announced today another one of these things that
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Speaker 4: they'll be taking off to Alberanizi if, of course, we
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Speaker 4: end up with a hung Parliament on May third, and
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Speaker 4: Adam Bandt will have his little grab bag of goodies
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Speaker 4: that he's going to go off to albow with to say, look,
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Speaker 4: we'll give you a government if you just hand us
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Speaker 4: a few things. Today. It's free university. Yes, it's going
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Speaker 4: to cost a hell of a lot of money. I'll
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Speaker 4: tell you how much after mister Band tells you just
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Speaker 4: how great this is.
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Speaker 6: The Greens will make big corporations and billionaires pay their
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Speaker 6: fair share of tax so that everyone in this country
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Speaker 6: can have a good quality, free public education.
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Speaker 4: Ah. Yes, those naughty billionaires, they have to pay their
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Speaker 4: fair share of tax. I suppose mister Band doesn't realize
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Speaker 4: that the top ten percent of income earners in this
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Speaker 4: country actually pay ninety percent, or actually a little bit
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Speaker 4: more than ninety percent of the total income tax that
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Speaker 4: is paid in this country. People who earn money pay
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Speaker 4: plenty of tax and already pull their weight. But that
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Speaker 4: doesn't matter because we've got to run this Robin Ord argument.
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Speaker 4: But this would cost forty six and a half billion
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Speaker 4: dollars every year to give free university in Tafe to
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Speaker 4: anyone who wants it. Now, Look, Taife, I'm not so
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Speaker 4: upset about because if it means we can get a
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Speaker 4: few more tradees out there, that we know we need.
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Speaker 4: That's a different matter, but we need more university students
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Speaker 4: being churned out like we need a whole in the head.
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Speaker 4: To put it into perspective, Forty six and a half
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Speaker 4: billion dollars is almost as much every year as being
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Speaker 4: spent on the NDIS. And we know how out of
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Speaker 4: control the NDIS is. So he wants to spend the
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Speaker 4: same amount of money on tuning out more university students
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Speaker 4: to do what I mean, what jobs are these people
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Speaker 4: magically going to fill that aren't already being filled. The
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Speaker 4: jobs we need to fill in this country right now
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Speaker 4: are things like trades, and we're trying to get people
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Speaker 4: to come from overseas to do them. We don't need
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Speaker 4: more people coming out with a Bachelor of Art to
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Speaker 4: be a bugger all degree, do we? But of course
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Speaker 4: Whitlam did it once and so it's a good thing.
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Speaker 4: And I mean, for goodness, the Prime Minister had free university.
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Speaker 4: I think that's probably the best argument to not have
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Speaker 4: free university. And it annoys me every time we have
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Speaker 4: these discussions about oh, we should you know, forgive student
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Speaker 4: loans or university should be free. We have the Heck system,
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Speaker 4: which is one of the most equitable systems of paying
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Speaker 4: for university in the world. It's not like the US,
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Speaker 4: where you have to take out massive loans that you
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Speaker 4: are responsible for in order to get into college or university.
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Speaker 4: The government pays for it for you, and then you
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Speaker 4: pay them back over time once you reach an income threshold.
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Speaker 4: At the moment it's fifty four grand, four hundred and
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Speaker 4: thirty five bucks. As of the next financial year, you'll
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Speaker 4: have to be earning at least sixty seven thousand dollars
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Speaker 4: before you start paying back any of that hex loan.
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Speaker 4: So it is a very free and fairly available system
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Speaker 4: that can be used by anyone from any socioeconomic background
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Speaker 4: anywhere in this country. It's not a great impost, but
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Speaker 4: we must have free university to cost it forty six
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Speaker 4: and a half billion dollars to the tax payer.
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Speaker 1: But I hesitate to correct you because you are very
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Speaker 1: rarely wrong. But I'm pretty sure it's forty six point
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Speaker 1: five billion dollars over four years rather than every year.
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Speaker 1: But still it's an extraordinary amount of money. The cost
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Speaker 1: of university is an issue. I mean, it's ridiculous fifty
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars for an arts degree, not that I know
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Speaker 1: what you would do with an arts degree, but with.
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Speaker 2: It it's about what it's good for, and even that
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Speaker 2: would be doubtful.
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Speaker 1: But free university degrees actually undermine university degrees.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting as a.
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Speaker 1: Father of kids, I watch my kids go through school
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Speaker 1: and they really didn't apply themselves terribly well, I must say.
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Speaker 1: Then they got into university or one of my sons
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Speaker 1: is doing UNI, the other ones at Tafe, and all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden they are studying because suddenly they are
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Speaker 1: personally invested. There's nothing like personal investment to make someone
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Speaker 1: commit to something. So this is something that Greens would
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Speaker 1: need to explain. If you're going to suddenly make university
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Speaker 1: degrees free for anybody who wants to take them up,
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Speaker 1: how do you do that without devaluing them and having
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Speaker 1: a whole of people in role in courses that they're
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Speaker 1: really not committed to. We already have people chopping and
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Speaker 1: changing ad nauseum. That is only going to increase. As
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Speaker 1: for the cost will be born by big business, how
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Speaker 1: long do you reckon it will be before we do
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Speaker 1: have much big.
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Speaker 2: Business in this country.
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Speaker 1: As the Greens determined what is their fair share of
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Speaker 1: tax to pay? Adam Bant, of course, always uses the
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Speaker 1: same argument, and it sounds convincing if you enjoy the
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Speaker 1: comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought. He says,
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Speaker 1: in a wealthy country like ours, and then just add
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Speaker 1: at the end of that phrase, whatever you want to
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Speaker 1: be free in a wealthy country like ours, this should
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Speaker 1: be free. That should be free. And that's a great
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Speaker 1: argument for about five minutes. But after you've done that
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Speaker 1: a couple of times, our country is not a wealthy
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Speaker 1: country anymore because everything's free. We've destroyed big business and
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Speaker 1: suddenly you've run out of other people's money to pay
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Speaker 1: for all your grandiose schemes.
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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, it's never Firstly, it's not free
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Speaker 3: because we're all going to be paying for it. Let's
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Speaker 3: be realistic. Secondly, we are already facing a trillion dollars
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Speaker 3: in debt under labor, so you know, why not add
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Speaker 3: in this some money grows on trees minority government type
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Speaker 3: scheme under and banned as well. And thirdly, what sort
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Speaker 3: of fantasy land is Adam ban actually living under? This
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Speaker 3: is a disastrous scheme. Now, obviously, free education would have
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Speaker 3: been fantastic. I would have loved to have done free
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Speaker 3: education and not having to have paid my hex debt.
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Speaker 3: But he hasn't clearly thought this through. It is only
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Speaker 3: designed to win over the younger vote. But they want
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Speaker 3: to high cup taxes. Just to go to your point
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Speaker 3: there on big corporations or do you think that businesses
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Speaker 3: big corporations is going to go, oh yeah, no worries,
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Speaker 3: this is all well and good, no problems. Keep taxing us,
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Speaker 3: keep taxing us. Of course not. They are going to
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Speaker 3: stop investing. They're going to close down. It means that
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Speaker 3: less money into the economy. It means that less work
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Speaker 3: because they're going to have to start laying off workers
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Speaker 3: and they're going to go overseas. They're going to take
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Speaker 3: their business overseas. So terrific policy there. But also to
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Speaker 3: make universities free, the standards would have to rise dramatically
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Speaker 3: because all the courses would become incredibly competitive. It would
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Speaker 3: be very hard, and the entry requirements would have to
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Speaker 3: be tougher, and it just goes to show really that
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Speaker 3: the Greens have absolutely no idea how business works in
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Speaker 3: this country.
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Speaker 1: One if the standards would have to go down to accounts, well,
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Speaker 1: I feel like.
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Speaker 3: The standards would have to go up, wouldn't they?
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Speaker 4: I mean means, how many more students you want to
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Speaker 4: shoehorn through? Right, because that's how the ATR system works.
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Speaker 4: It's all just based on demand.
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Speaker 3: Well, look, actually, speaking of standards, we know that one
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Speaker 3: in three students in this country are currently not actually
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Speaker 3: reaching basic literacy and numerousy exams they're not passing, they
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Speaker 3: are failing. And we now know that possibly it could
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Speaker 3: be teachers to blame for this, because a new report
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Speaker 3: by the Grattin Institute has found that one in twelve
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Speaker 3: trainee teachers actually dropped out of maths in high school
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Speaker 3: one in twelve. The Gratin Institute also found that thousands
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Speaker 3: of primary school teachers are struggling to teach mathematics, resulting
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Speaker 3: in teenagers who use their fingers to count. So these teenagers,
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Speaker 3: these teachers are expected to teach maths but actually can't
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Speaker 3: do basic maths themselves. Now, if we bring up Giordana Hunter,
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Speaker 3: she was actually the lead on this report. This is
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Speaker 3: what she says. She says, quote taught poorly, students are
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Speaker 3: robbed of a core life skill. Enumerate adults have worse
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Speaker 3: job prospects and are more likely to struggle with routine
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Speaker 3: tasks such as managing budgets and understanding health guidance. Now,
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Speaker 3: I remember once I graduated from high school. About two
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Speaker 3: or so years later, the ATAR so that the entry
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Speaker 3: requirements to get into university for teaching and for nursing
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Speaker 3: for that matter, they actually dropped the entry requirements. They
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Speaker 3: dropped it to a lower level, and simply for the
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Speaker 3: fact that they couldn't find enough teachers, nor could they
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Speaker 3: find enough nurses. But that in itself is a big problem.
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Speaker 3: We find out a week ago that to get into
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Speaker 3: teaching they had to drop that ATAR result so low
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Speaker 3: because they're so desperate that some students are able to
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Speaker 3: go into university with an ATAR of thirty nine thirty nine.
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Speaker 3: It basically means you can fail your year twelve exam,
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Speaker 3: completely fail it, and you can still enter as a teacher. Now,
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Speaker 3: how concerning is that when you think that these are
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Speaker 3: the people that are teaching the next generation and if
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Speaker 3: you can't even count, if you have to use your
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Speaker 3: hand one, two, three, four, five, and you have failed
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Speaker 3: all of your exams and then you're teaching the next generation,
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Speaker 3: I think that is an absolute failure, and it is worrying.
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Speaker 3: Now I'm not pretending like I'm good at math. I
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Speaker 3: am not good at maths, full stop. That's why I'm
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Speaker 3: now on television.
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Speaker 4: The reason we are winning.
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Speaker 3: Why I'm on television because I can't do math. But
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Speaker 3: the point is that I'm got a teacher, and I
18:31
Speaker 3: worry for the next generation that they're being taught by
18:34
Speaker 3: these people. And literacy and numerously standards are so low
18:37
Speaker 3: in this country as it is. And here's the pro well.
18:39
Speaker 4: That eight thirty nine point ninety five or whatever, that's
18:41
Speaker 4: the bottom four percent of school leavers, right, which is
18:45
Speaker 4: just insane. And in what they did at the Grat Institute,
18:50
Speaker 4: they found that eight percent of teachers did no mass
18:53
Speaker 4: at all in year twelve. Those who did maths, the
18:57
Speaker 4: vast majority did like the easiest version of the subject
19:00
Speaker 4: available to them, which is exactly what I did in
19:02
Speaker 4: high school. But I didn't want to be a teacher.
19:04
Speaker 4: Thirteen percent of primary school teachers nine percent of high
19:08
Speaker 4: school teachers failed a standard global maths test in year ten.
19:13
Speaker 4: And these are the people who are sent off into
19:16
Speaker 4: the classroom to nurture the next generation. Is it any
19:19
Speaker 4: wonder that the results just keep getting worse and worse
19:21
Speaker 4: and worse and worse and worse, because of course it's
19:23
Speaker 4: a bit like compound interest. The more money you put
19:26
Speaker 4: into a system, the more money you end up making,
19:28
Speaker 4: and of course the more money you take out of
19:29
Speaker 4: the system, the worse it ends up being because you
19:32
Speaker 4: just keep churning these same people through who know less
19:35
Speaker 4: and less and less and less and less every time
19:37
Speaker 4: you go along. So it's diminishing returns, right, But I
19:40
Speaker 4: had to chuckle at the answer that the Gratin Institute
19:43
Speaker 4: came up with, which was that we need to reteach
19:47
Speaker 4: all of these teachers about mathematics, and in order to
19:50
Speaker 4: do it, we need to send people in on two
19:53
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty grand a year to teach these teachers
19:57
Speaker 4: how to do maths. I mean, how do you get
20:00
Speaker 4: out the other side of a university degree to be
20:03
Speaker 4: a teacher and not know how to teach basic numeracy?
20:08
Speaker 4: Like it just seems so straightforward, and we're like, well,
20:11
Speaker 4: let's check a bit more money, let's check a bit
20:13
Speaker 4: more money at it. The Australian Education Union has been
20:16
Speaker 4: telling us for decades the biggest problem in the education
20:19
Speaker 4: system is that we don't have enough money, and year
20:21
Speaker 4: on year they chuck more and more money into it,
20:24
Speaker 4: and the results to you're getting worse and worse. So
20:26
Speaker 4: what do we meant to do?
20:26
Speaker 1: It's amazing how many institutions in this country have that
20:29
Speaker 1: exact problem. It's quite common the ABC have that problem
20:31
Speaker 1: as well.
20:32
Speaker 2: If only they.
20:33
Speaker 1: Had a little more money, their programs would improve. The
20:36
Speaker 1: other amazing statistic from that Gratton Institute report was that
20:40
Speaker 1: a quarter of primary school teachers did not feel confident
20:44
Speaker 1: to teach maths to kids in grade six. So I
20:47
Speaker 1: guess grade six, you're talking about what ten year olds?
20:50
Speaker 1: At a quarter twenty five percent of primary school teachers
20:52
Speaker 1: and we wouldn't feel confident doing that. It's all very
20:55
Speaker 1: well to say, well, let's have remedial teaching for teachers
21:00
Speaker 1: dealing with the methodology of teaching. Then you're you're simply
21:04
Speaker 1: giving remedial teaching to teachers who are teaching a flawed
21:06
Speaker 1: methodology anyway, And this is another one of the findings
21:10
Speaker 1: from this report is that mathematics is typically being taught
21:13
Speaker 1: in primary school in the context of games and helping
21:17
Speaker 1: students to discover answers rather than I don't know how
21:20
Speaker 1: you guys went through school, but I remember standing in
21:23
Speaker 1: a line of kids, and when you got to the
21:24
Speaker 1: front of the line, you asked a times table five
21:27
Speaker 1: fives And if you didn't know that five fives was
21:29
Speaker 1: thirty six, whatever it.
21:31
Speaker 3: Is, I.
21:35
Speaker 2: Five. I know what it is to see if you're paying.
21:38
Speaker 1: Attention, you know, John deliberate And this was a competition
21:42
Speaker 1: that was it was repetition, repetition, repetition, until you.
21:46
Speaker 2: Learned your times tables.
21:48
Speaker 1: By wrote the finding from this study that we've got
21:50
Speaker 1: kids in high school who are counting on their fingers.
21:55
Speaker 1: Sounds unbelievable until you go to a cafe and pay
21:58
Speaker 1: in cash and wait for your chain, and you'll be
22:01
Speaker 1: waiting a long time to do any song.
22:03
Speaker 3: We used to sing the times tables. That's how we learn.
22:05
Speaker 3: And you do you commit it to memory over time.
22:08
Speaker 3: Don't ask me now. I'm not going to do a
22:09
Speaker 3: James McPherson and give a crack on five television. But
22:13
Speaker 3: that's how you learn over time. But if the teacher
22:15
Speaker 3: doesn't know that, then we are sitting up the next
22:17
Speaker 3: generation to completely fail.
22:19
Speaker 4: Now I'm just looking here. It says on the clock
22:22
Speaker 4: where it's how many minutes have we got? We've got one, two,
22:26
Speaker 4: I don't know how many minutes you've got left to
22:28
Speaker 4: the ad brank I can't work.
22:29
Speaker 1: Well, let's keep going before we run out of time.
22:31
Speaker 1: Let's talk about traffic in Sydney. I'm a Sydney resident
22:34
Speaker 1: and have given up trying to drive into the CBD
22:37
Speaker 1: because it's just exorbitant cost when it comes to tolls
22:41
Speaker 1: and when you get there eventually it's impossible to find
22:45
Speaker 1: a park. And I'm not the only one with this problem.
22:47
Speaker 1: The NRMA have done a survey of almost five hundred
22:50
Speaker 1: fleet companies and found that one of the biggest problems
22:54
Speaker 1: we've now got in Sydney is that delivery drivers can't
22:58
Speaker 1: find anywhere to load their goods because loading zones have
23:03
Speaker 1: disappeared as bike lanes have taken their place. The survey
23:08
Speaker 1: of more than four hundred and fifty eight fleet running
23:10
Speaker 1: businesses found more than eighty one percent believe congestion across
23:15
Speaker 1: Sydney has worsened in the last year, with more than
23:18
Speaker 1: half reporting their fleet spend twenty to thirty minutes more
23:21
Speaker 1: in traffic every day than they did just a year ago.
23:25
Speaker 1: One operator said he's now got his delivery drivers leaving
23:28
Speaker 1: the depot. An hour earlier than they were just a
23:31
Speaker 1: year ago, because it's so difficult to find a spot
23:35
Speaker 1: to unload all that you.
23:36
Speaker 2: Have to deliver.
23:37
Speaker 1: He said, he's got trucks literally going around and around
23:40
Speaker 1: the block several times trying to find a space. I
23:44
Speaker 1: was curious when a spokesperson for the City of Sydney
23:48
Speaker 1: Council addressed this problem and said two things. First, well,
23:52
Speaker 1: this is a problem that we're finding right around the world.
23:55
Speaker 2: Oh well, that's all right. Then this is a common problem.
23:58
Speaker 1: But we're finding this problem right around the world because
24:00
Speaker 1: right around the world we've got stupid councilors making dumb decisions.
24:04
Speaker 1: That's no excuse for the City of Sydney. But then
24:07
Speaker 1: the council spokesperson came up with this beauty said, well,
24:10
Speaker 1: the answer is a congestion tax.
24:13
Speaker 2: Ah, how they work.
24:16
Speaker 1: They cause congestion with their stupid bike lanes and then
24:20
Speaker 1: they say, oh, we've got congestion. Well, what we're gonna
24:23
Speaker 1: have to do is we're going to have to tax
24:24
Speaker 1: people now for driving into the city. What a wonderful
24:27
Speaker 1: scenario that is. But of course, Caleber, it's not a bug,
24:31
Speaker 1: it's a feature. This is by design. The city of
24:35
Speaker 1: Sydney Council's own website says that one of their goals
24:39
Speaker 1: can you believe this is, and I'm quoting, to decrease
24:42
Speaker 1: personal car ownership? Can you believe that Clover Moore and
24:47
Speaker 1: her fellow council members have decided one of the reasons
24:50
Speaker 1: that they have been elected is to make sure that
24:54
Speaker 1: fewer of us actually bother to own cars. It goes
24:58
Speaker 1: on to say they believe one of their key goals
25:01
Speaker 1: for being in local government is to motivate residents to walk,
25:04
Speaker 1: or to cycle or to take public transport. They want
25:08
Speaker 1: ten percent of all trips within the CBD to be
25:11
Speaker 1: by bicycle. They of course say that this will have
25:15
Speaker 1: untold environmental benefits. I'm just wondering, when you've got traffic
25:19
Speaker 1: banked up, or we've got delivery trucks spewing out missions,
25:23
Speaker 1: going around and around the block repeatedly trying to find
25:27
Speaker 1: a parking space, how that's good for the environment.
25:29
Speaker 4: Yes, you chew through a lot of fuel while you're
25:32
Speaker 4: are It is bad for the environment. And of course
25:35
Speaker 4: all the people sitting out having their al Fresco coffees
25:38
Speaker 4: as the truck waits to be able to pull in
25:40
Speaker 4: to deliver the coffee beans that can then be ground
25:43
Speaker 4: up for you to drink them. It is insane. How
25:46
Speaker 4: do they think a city operates? Right? And Sydney's not
25:49
Speaker 4: getting any smaller. There are millions of people moving to
25:52
Speaker 4: this country and the vast majority of them go to
25:55
Speaker 4: Sydney or Melbourne, and so that will necessarily, you would think,
25:59
Speaker 4: mean that more people are going to be going into
26:01
Speaker 4: the CBD. So if you've got more people going into
26:04
Speaker 4: the CBD, that means more people who want to go
26:06
Speaker 4: to cafes, people who want to go to restaurants, who
26:08
Speaker 4: want to go to shops, etc. And funnily enough, things
26:12
Speaker 4: have to get into those shops and cafes and restaurants somehow.
26:15
Speaker 4: Now we haven't worked out how to do it by
26:17
Speaker 4: drone yet, so most of it is done with trucks
26:20
Speaker 4: and vans, and those trucks and vans need somewhere to park,
26:23
Speaker 4: and funnily enough, if they need to supply more things,
26:26
Speaker 4: we may even need more trucks and vans on the road.
26:30
Speaker 4: If Clover Moore had only realized that the answer to
26:32
Speaker 4: all of this was actually to shut the door to immigration,
26:36
Speaker 4: maybe she'd finally get on board with the idea, because
26:38
Speaker 4: then you'd have fewer people coming into Sydney and then
26:40
Speaker 4: you'd have less problems with more vehicles driving around. But yes,
26:44
Speaker 4: this is exactly the point they design all of this.
26:46
Speaker 4: The bike lanes aren't actually about getting people to ride
26:48
Speaker 4: their bikes. They know that people aren't going to ride
26:52
Speaker 4: their bikes on these bike lanes all very few people
26:55
Speaker 4: do because we're not Amsterdam. I mean, Sydney is a
26:58
Speaker 4: big city. You don't live at Penrith and then go, oh,
27:01
Speaker 4: we'll be I'm going to ride into work tomorrow. Do
27:04
Speaker 4: you You either catch public transport if you have a
27:07
Speaker 4: decent service available to you, or if you don't you drive.
27:10
Speaker 4: You've got no choice. So they just make life as
27:12
Speaker 4: difficult as possible, I mean, charge you as much as
27:14
Speaker 4: possible and say, oh well, there's nothing we can do
27:16
Speaker 4: about it. They created the problem.
27:18
Speaker 3: I'd like to know has does Clover Moore ride a
27:20
Speaker 3: bike into work? How lod is her mode of transport
27:23
Speaker 3: to get to the offices in the city there, That's
27:26
Speaker 3: what I would like to know. But you know, once
27:28
Speaker 3: again we see this green zelotry on display bike Clover
27:31
Speaker 3: more time and time again. This is not the first
27:32
Speaker 3: instance of it, and her big mission now to replace
27:35
Speaker 3: parking spots with bike lanes is claiming businesses one after
27:40
Speaker 3: the other. And don't forget that these businesses actually want
27:42
Speaker 3: to function. They want to put money into the CBD,
27:45
Speaker 3: which we so desperately need. Obviously in Sydney's CBD, when
27:48
Speaker 3: you've got restaurants, cafes and pubs empty all the time
27:51
Speaker 3: because people haven't gone back to work because they're working
27:53
Speaker 3: from home. Still, that's a whole other issue. Working from home.
27:56
Speaker 3: You want actually to inject money into the economy. So
27:58
Speaker 3: if you can't get car to drop off deliveries to
28:01
Speaker 3: actually help these businesses function, then what's the point. They
28:04
Speaker 3: may as well go broke. That's the problem. But once
28:06
Speaker 3: again it's Clover Wore and her radical ideas to try
28:10
Speaker 3: and greenify the city of Sydney, and it's having a
28:13
Speaker 3: huge impact on businesses. I've had enough.
28:15
Speaker 4: I don't know what it's like these days. I haven't
28:17
Speaker 4: lived in Adelaide for a little while and the population
28:19
Speaker 4: has grown a bit since I left. But I remember
28:22
Speaker 4: one time I had a friend over from Sydney and
28:26
Speaker 4: we got in the car and I drove into the
28:28
Speaker 4: middle of the city and I parked my car on
28:30
Speaker 4: the side of the road. She said to me, what
28:32
Speaker 4: are you doing? Said, what do you think I'm doing?
28:33
Speaker 4: I'm parking the car. She was you can do that
28:36
Speaker 4: in Adela you can park the car just on the
28:38
Speaker 4: side of the road in the middle of the city.
28:40
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, we can do that, and it
28:43
Speaker 4: looked at me like it was an alien who'd landed
28:45
Speaker 4: from Mars. This idea that like you could park the
28:48
Speaker 4: car on the side of a CBD street and pay
28:50
Speaker 4: like two bucks an hour or something like it is
28:53
Speaker 4: genuinely insane for people who live in big city.
28:55
Speaker 1: I have parked my car in the CBD of Sydney.
28:58
Speaker 1: I sold my kidney, got a really good prize. Yeah, exactly,
29:00
Speaker 1: made for most of the parking exactly.
29:02
Speaker 4: And then you had to sell your car afterwards when
29:03
Speaker 4: they put the fine on them because you'd overstayed. You're welcome.
29:07
Speaker 4: This is insane. I feel like we get another one
29:10
Speaker 4: of these stories out of the UK every week, whether
29:13
Speaker 4: it's people having coppers rock up to their door to
29:16
Speaker 4: arrest them for posting memes, or that the police themselves
29:20
Speaker 4: are going round the bend in their training of their
29:22
Speaker 4: officers and that's exactly what we see today. The West
29:27
Speaker 4: Yorkshire Police, which previously had put a ban on hiring
29:30
Speaker 4: any more white people because you know, racism is good
29:33
Speaker 4: when you're trying to solve racism, They've now decided that
29:37
Speaker 4: all of the constabulary need to be taught about anti racism,
29:41
Speaker 4: specifically the history of slavery in the UK, because you know,
29:46
Speaker 4: when you're going out to deal with people posting memes
29:49
Speaker 4: on Facebook in twenty twenty five, you need to know
29:52
Speaker 4: what was going on at least two hundred years ago.
29:55
Speaker 4: The Chief Constable John Robin said, I am sorry for
29:58
Speaker 4: the way policing has treate to black people across West
30:01
Speaker 4: Yorkshire in the past. I truly am, and I'm sure
30:04
Speaker 4: he was crying as he said this. I cannot change
30:07
Speaker 4: the past, but I can change the future. I want
30:11
Speaker 4: us to become an anti racist organization. Now, yes, you correct,
30:18
Speaker 4: Chief Constable John Robbins. You cannot change the past, but
30:22
Speaker 4: the Brits already changed the past. In the past. It
30:25
Speaker 4: was eighteen o seven when they banned the slave trade
30:29
Speaker 4: across the Britain and its colonies, and by eighteen thirty
30:33
Speaker 4: three they had banned slavery all together. This was two
30:38
Speaker 4: hundred years ago, and you now think that you have
30:40
Speaker 4: to teach coppers about that because it somehow has something
30:44
Speaker 4: to do with their jobs now somehow, I don't think so,
30:48
Speaker 4: but if it goes anything like this old skit from
30:51
Speaker 4: the BBC, at least it'll be entertaining.
30:55
Speaker 7: I'm delighted to be giants by a member of the
30:57
Speaker 7: Chinese community as I apologize for using the phrase Chinese whispers.
31:02
Speaker 7: I appreciate that this is deeply offensive to the Chinese.
31:05
Speaker 7: I completely understand why they went totally mental. I'm delighted
31:12
Speaker 7: to be joined by a mental health campaigner to witness
31:15
Speaker 7: my apology for using the phrase they've gone mental. I
31:19
Speaker 7: can see some of you surprised that I'm apologizing, but
31:23
Speaker 7: gone of the days when getting an apology out of
31:25
Speaker 7: me he was like getting a five. And I have
31:27
Speaker 7: an Aberdonian eh, I would like to apologize to the
31:31
Speaker 7: largest Abobdonian community.
31:36
Speaker 4: Yes, that's probably actually what happened in the stations in
31:40
Speaker 4: West Yorkshire. I mean a two day cultural awareness bloody
31:45
Speaker 4: thing too, so you can learn about slavery. What does
31:48
Speaker 4: that have to do with your job as a copper?
31:50
Speaker 4: On the beat in the UK today.
31:52
Speaker 1: I think the problem is John Robbins doesn't want to
31:54
Speaker 1: be the Chief Constable. He wants to be William Wilberforce.
31:56
Speaker 1: Unfortunately that was a couple hundred years ago. That's one
32:00
Speaker 1: of the problems for modern day people, particularly in western
32:02
Speaker 1: nations where we have such amazing human rights, because a
32:06
Speaker 1: lot of these battles have already been fought. But everyone
32:08
Speaker 1: wants to be part of making history. But what do
32:10
Speaker 1: you do when these great battles have already been fought
32:13
Speaker 1: and one will you decide to fight them all over again,
32:17
Speaker 1: only to make things worse. I just wonder when they're
32:20
Speaker 1: teaching the British coppers about their country's history in slavery,
32:25
Speaker 1: do they also teach them that the Brits outlawed slavery
32:28
Speaker 1: around the Commonwealth. Do they also teach them the Brits
32:31
Speaker 1: weren't the first to be involved in slavery, and long
32:34
Speaker 1: after it was banned in the Commonwealth, that continued in
32:37
Speaker 1: other parts of the world. Do they also teach them
32:40
Speaker 1: that there were Africans involved in the slave trade who
32:42
Speaker 1: profited from the sale of their own people. I'm sure
32:45
Speaker 1: none of those things are taught they're spending four point
32:48
Speaker 1: five million pounds on a two day seminar for ten
32:52
Speaker 1: thousand staff. Imagine if that four point five million pounds
32:55
Speaker 1: was spent on I don't know, fighting crime, removing.
32:59
Speaker 2: Knives from the streets of London.
33:02
Speaker 1: But the Deputy Mayor of Policing in West Yorkshire, Tracy Babin,
33:06
Speaker 1: here's a clue as to why this is happening. She
33:08
Speaker 1: describes herself, She's the Deputy Mayor of Policing as quote
33:12
Speaker 1: passionate about inclusion as a black woman and mother of
33:15
Speaker 1: two gay children. I'm working to recruit more diverse police
33:18
Speaker 1: and staff. I want to support the police force to
33:21
Speaker 1: become anti racist and anti misogynistic. Denika, how about we
33:26
Speaker 1: just had a police force it was really good at
33:29
Speaker 1: finding criminals.
33:30
Speaker 3: Well think So, let's not forget how well DEI hires
33:34
Speaker 3: went over in the US with the FBI. Remember what
33:38
Speaker 3: happened when Donald Trump there was two attempted assassination attempts
33:41
Speaker 3: on Donald Trump's life. Remember how well DEI turned out
33:45
Speaker 3: for the FBI. Yeah, it's like deja vu right now,
33:47
Speaker 3: isn't it. But over in the UK, and when you
33:49
Speaker 3: actually break this down, imagine being so breathtakingly woke that
33:53
Speaker 3: you would actually come out publicly and declare that you
33:56
Speaker 3: want to discriminate against white candidates when you have a
33:59
Speaker 3: crime crisis, not just in Yorkshire where this is happening,
34:02
Speaker 3: but across the United Kingdom, when you actually need as
34:04
Speaker 3: many resources as possible right now, you need as many
34:07
Speaker 3: boots on the ground to deal with all the issues
34:09
Speaker 3: that you've got. But no, if you are white, please
34:12
Speaker 3: do not apply because no, no, no, that's very offensive.
34:16
Speaker 3: You know what this is, it's actually racism. We don't
34:18
Speaker 3: talk about this enough. We don't talk about this enough
34:20
Speaker 3: because there's always this misconception. No, but because you're white,
34:24
Speaker 3: therefore no one can be racist against you, as this
34:26
Speaker 3: white privilege that has developed over in over time in society.
34:30
Speaker 3: It is a load of absolute nonsense because that to me,
34:33
Speaker 3: this whole story, to me is racist.
34:35
Speaker 2: Well, there's a sinister element to this.
34:37
Speaker 1: Any were right to refer to what DEI has done
34:40
Speaker 1: in the United States. But you don't need to go
34:42
Speaker 1: to the United States to see how sinister this is.
34:44
Speaker 1: Because the UK have got their own example where we
34:46
Speaker 1: had some years ago gangs of men raping hundreds of
34:51
Speaker 1: murials and it was allowed to go on because police
34:55
Speaker 1: and public officials were afraid of being labeled racist if
34:58
Speaker 1: they followed it up. But this kind of training would
35:02
Speaker 1: seem to only perpetuate that sort of problem which has
35:06
Speaker 1: been devastating for so many people.
35:08
Speaker 3: And look, speaking of race, I want to bring it
35:10
Speaker 3: back here to Australia because you at home might remember,
35:12
Speaker 3: you might not know, but we actually have a race commissioner,
35:15
Speaker 3: a race discrimination commissioner in this country high and by labor.
35:19
Speaker 3: And if he didn't know, we actually pay this man
35:22
Speaker 3: four hundred thousand dollars a year to do well crickets.
35:27
Speaker 3: I am not too sure, to be quite honest, what
35:29
Speaker 3: we pay this man to do. This is giridr Haran
35:32
Speaker 3: siver Raman, and this time he's actually having a go
35:36
Speaker 3: at Australia's counter terrorism laws. Now. He had a speech
35:40
Speaker 3: to Deacon University in October last year where he claimed
35:44
Speaker 3: that they can flate in Islam with terrorism. This is
35:47
Speaker 3: what he said. Quote. One of the most compelling arguments
35:51
Speaker 3: made by the Australian Muslim Advocacy Network is at Australia's
35:54
Speaker 3: counter terrorism legislation's definition of terrorism, which includes religious motivation,
35:59
Speaker 3: consists results in the conflation of Islam with terrorism. It's
36:03
Speaker 3: hardly surprising that if you want to avoid scrutiny and surveillance,
36:06
Speaker 3: you would bow to the pressure of shedding your religion
36:08
Speaker 3: and assimilating to the dominant culture. Now, let's be very
36:12
Speaker 3: clear about this. Our laws are not and to Islam.
36:17
Speaker 3: Would you believe it? In fact, none of our laws
36:19
Speaker 3: actually discriminate against a group, a religion, a society. Nothing.
36:25
Speaker 3: That is why the laws are in place. Now I've
36:26
Speaker 3: taken it upon myself, Caleb and James to actually look
36:29
Speaker 3: at our criminal code. I've gone through it myself, and
36:32
Speaker 3: it defines a terrorist act as an action or threat
36:36
Speaker 3: of action which is done with the intention of advancing
36:39
Speaker 3: a political, religious, or ideological cause. But action will only
36:43
Speaker 3: be defined as terrorists if it causes serious physical harm
36:46
Speaker 3: or death, serious damages to property, in dangers at person's life,
36:49
Speaker 3: or creators create serious risk. So if we are indeed
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Speaker 3: actually looking perhaps firstly for a doge example, I would
36:56
Speaker 3: have a look at this department in particular. But we
36:59
Speaker 3: are paying bureaucrats like this four hundred thousand dollars, and
37:03
Speaker 3: this is the problem to peddle this sort of division
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Speaker 3: in our society, and that is where the problem is here.
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Speaker 3: I just think it's a disgrace to come out with comments.
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Speaker 4: He kind of said the quiet part out loud here
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Speaker 4: as ANIMI If he is saying that this law, which
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Speaker 4: simply says you cannot use your religion to threaten other
37:22
Speaker 4: people with death or violence or harm is somehow discriminatory
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Speaker 4: against Islam and conflates Islam with terrorism, seems to inst
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Speaker 4: Is he not kind of suggesting that that is commonplace
37:34
Speaker 4: in certain parts of Islam, Like you're proving your own point. Man.
37:38
Speaker 4: When I first heard that we had a race commissioner,
37:41
Speaker 4: I thought, you pee, there's another blow. BE loved the
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Speaker 4: gg as much as me ggs so and then I
37:46
Speaker 4: find out that he's actually paid four hundred k to
37:48
Speaker 4: run around telling us how terrible we are. I mean,
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Speaker 4: imagine you can be paid four hundred k in Australia
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Speaker 4: to tell Australians how racist they are with Australian taxpayers.
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Speaker 1: I've just got one question about this. Why is the
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Speaker 1: race commissioner concerning himself with Islam? The race commissioner to
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Speaker 1: learn what a race is. Islam is not a race, It's
38:09
Speaker 1: a religion. He's got no idea what he's talking about.
38:11
Speaker 1: We're going to go to a break. When we come back,
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Speaker 1: look at what's making news tomorrow, including the ABC in
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Speaker 1: hot water apparently slamming and smearing the Australian War Memorial
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Speaker 1: that's coming.
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Speaker 2: Up in just a moment. But welcome back.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at what's making news tomorrow. Daniki,
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Speaker 1: you've got the Courier mail, the ABC in some hot water.
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Speaker 3: Yes, headline on the Courier mail is nothing. Sacred memorials
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Speaker 3: fury at Last Post insult. It says the Australian War
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Speaker 3: Memorial has officially complained to the ABC over a four
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Speaker 3: Corners episode it claims made it sound like noisy construction
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Speaker 3: work was occurring during the Last Post. The Memorial has
38:53
Speaker 3: written to the ABC chairman Kim Williams, and is also
38:56
Speaker 3: dealing with the Public broadcast as on boardsman over several
38:59
Speaker 3: concerns relaying that episode. Now, the War Memorial director Matt
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Speaker 3: Anderson claims that he was disappointed by that episode, which
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Speaker 3: gave a false impression that construction was happening during the
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Speaker 3: Sacred Evening ceremony. Now, it is worth pointing out now
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Speaker 3: that the ABC has denied this claim and standing by
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Speaker 3: their reporting. But it's quite significant for the Australian War
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Speaker 3: Memorial to come out and say that. I mean, if
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Speaker 3: this is actually the case, that is very offensive to
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Speaker 3: the Australian War Memorial. If that is the again, the
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Speaker 3: ABC is denying the claim, but that's highly offensive. I mean,
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Speaker 3: it's sacred. The last post we know should be sacred.
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Speaker 1: That the problem the ABC have got and I don't
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Speaker 1: know whether this claim is legit or whether the ABC
39:41
Speaker 1: are actually correct. The problem the ABC have, of course,
39:44
Speaker 1: is that they've got form with editing footage. Famously the
39:48
Speaker 1: adf Soldiers, where extra gunshots were added direct to footage
39:53
Speaker 1: that was broadcast.
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Speaker 2: And that's the problem the ABC have.
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Speaker 1: When your credibility has been found to be wanted on
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Speaker 1: several occasions, then every time there's something that people are
40:04
Speaker 1: inclined to believe the worst, that's probably what will happen here.
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Speaker 4: And I think the Australian War Memorial would have better
40:10
Speaker 4: things to do than be complaining to the ABC if
40:12
Speaker 4: they feel like they had a reasonable case to take up.
40:16
Speaker 4: Let's go to the front of the Advertiser tomorrow where
40:18
Speaker 4: it is spears hid Coke in bed draws. It's an
40:22
Speaker 4: interesting little story this one. Former opposition leader David Spears
40:26
Speaker 4: crashed rocks of cocaine stashed in his bedside draws and
40:30
Speaker 4: fireplace on his kitchen bench before snorting it through banknotes,
40:34
Speaker 4: telling friends he was quote always happy to catch up
40:38
Speaker 4: for a drink and a bag. Court documents reveal it
40:41
Speaker 4: can also be revealed Spears exchanged hundreds of messages with
40:44
Speaker 4: the men to whom he supplied the drug. Now you
40:47
Speaker 4: may well remember last year David Spears had to stand
40:52
Speaker 4: down from his position as opposition leader and then eventually
40:55
Speaker 4: left state politics in South Australia after a video came
40:58
Speaker 4: out showing him snorting a white powder and he said
41:02
Speaker 4: at that time that that video was deep fake, it
41:05
Speaker 4: was AI generated. The police thin charged him with the
41:09
Speaker 4: supplying a drug. He said he would fight it and
41:12
Speaker 4: then he turned up in court and pleaded guilty. So
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Speaker 4: it's an interesting little story how this has developed from
41:18
Speaker 4: deep fakes to now actually, yes I did do it
41:22
Speaker 4: and apparently it was being kept in the fireplace and
41:25
Speaker 4: the big sid.
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Speaker 3: What a wild ride of a story this is. It's
41:29
Speaker 3: actually fascinating to watch it play out to be honest.
41:32
Speaker 4: Like, if you're going to be that, if you are
41:34
Speaker 4: the opposition leader, do you not just have enough sense
41:38
Speaker 4: to say, look, you know, maybe I have a drug
41:41
Speaker 4: taking past or whatever. Who knows. Lots of people have
41:44
Speaker 4: done lots of things when they were young, But I'm
41:46
Speaker 4: serious about my political career now and I'm going to
41:49
Speaker 4: behave from now on. How hard is it serious?
41:53
Speaker 3: Well, why would you say deep fakes from the beginning?
41:55
Speaker 1: I know it was a shock on the su Imagine
41:57
Speaker 1: if you know you're away and maybe someone stayed at
41:59
Speaker 1: your place and decided it's a bit called adelaide.
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Speaker 2: Often get on the place on that.
42:07
Speaker 1: I know the bats in Adelaide might love it.
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Speaker 3: Is that.
42:10
Speaker 1: Let's go to the front page of the Herald's son
42:13
Speaker 1: interesting story here. Just when you thought the Victorian Liberals
42:17
Speaker 1: had got their act together, John Persuito is gone, Brad
42:19
Speaker 1: Batten seems to be making headways in the polls against
42:22
Speaker 1: Jacinta Allen. But gee, they love to blow themselves up,
42:26
Speaker 1: the Victorian liberals deeming exit plot reads the headline. Liberal
42:30
Speaker 1: operatives are plotting to end the political career of defamed
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Speaker 1: MP more Redeeming in a move set to reignite a
42:36
Speaker 1: major factional party war. The Herald's son has confirmed multiple
42:39
Speaker 1: candidates are preparing to challenge for Missus Deming's number one
42:42
Speaker 1: position on the Western Metropolitan Upper House ticket when pre
42:46
Speaker 1: selection contests begin shortly after the federal election.
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Speaker 2: Now, the context around.
42:52
Speaker 1: This is that she was found by a court to
42:55
Speaker 1: have been defamed by former Liberal leader John Persuto. Damages
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Speaker 1: are now being worked out, but it's expected that those
43:03
Speaker 1: financial damages against John pursuito probably will bankrupt him, forcing
43:08
Speaker 1: a by election in his seat. More Redeeming has been
43:12
Speaker 1: under enormous pressure. Could you just drop the financial pursuit
43:16
Speaker 1: of damages? And of course why should she. She was
43:21
Speaker 1: badly defamed. She's entitled to it. And so as now
43:25
Speaker 1: as retribution, they're lining up to nicoret pre selection. And
43:30
Speaker 1: I mean the Federal Liberal Party as well must be
43:34
Speaker 1: furious at the timing of this, right, and they're going
43:37
Speaker 1: well in Victoria, the Federal Liberal Party. The last thing
43:40
Speaker 1: they need is for the state branch, yeh.
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Speaker 3: But the state branch is doing so well at the
43:44
Speaker 3: moment too, Brad Batton. And then this happens exactly.
43:48
Speaker 4: It shows what a rabble the Victorian liberals are You
43:51
Speaker 4: would have thought that they'd have learnt their lesson after
43:55
Speaker 4: Deeming took Pursuito to the cleaners, and that was an
43:58
Speaker 4: entirely avoidable situation sua that case didn't even have to
44:02
Speaker 4: run at all. Deeming offered to settle, and Pursuito said no,
44:07
Speaker 4: it's only because him and his cronies went after in
44:09
Speaker 4: the first place that we've ended up here and they
44:11
Speaker 4: can't get the message that maybe now we should just
44:14
Speaker 4: let sleeping dogs lie and try to have a united front,
44:17
Speaker 4: not only to do well in the federal election, but
44:19
Speaker 4: at a state election in twenty twenty six. Nomes blow
44:22
Speaker 4: it all up.
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Speaker 3: No, let's move on to the Townsville bulletin. Now the
44:26
Speaker 3: headline there is Judge goes gentle on prolific teen Krim.
44:30
Speaker 3: A North Queensland magistrate conceded she could have given a
44:33
Speaker 3: teenager more jail time after his Christmas Eve primes free
44:37
Speaker 3: but believe there was still hope for him despite his
44:39
Speaker 3: lengthy crime histories. A nineteen year old was sentenced in
44:41
Speaker 3: Townville magistrates called on Monday for causing fifty one thousand
44:45
Speaker 3: dollars in damages to bow and businesses during a strig
44:47
Speaker 3: of ram raids which ended in a police chase of
44:50
Speaker 3: the teen's arrest. Well, well, here we go again. It's
44:52
Speaker 3: the same thing we hear over and over again. Isn't
44:54
Speaker 3: as a slap on the wrist, off you go, repeat
44:56
Speaker 3: the repeat offender. The cycle of crime keeps continuing. If
44:59
Speaker 3: you're not going to set a standard, if you're not
45:00
Speaker 3: actually going to lock these kids up, teach them a lesson,
45:03
Speaker 3: that's just my opinion. Lock them up, teach them a lesson.
45:05
Speaker 3: This is going to keep happening. The problem is the
45:08
Speaker 3: judicial system here, because this is what they do time
45:11
Speaker 3: and time again.
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Speaker 1: Well, she said there was still hope for this young offender,
45:14
Speaker 1: and there's always hope for everybody. The problem is, it's
45:17
Speaker 1: not the job of our judiciary to deal in hope.
45:20
Speaker 1: It's the job of our judiciary to ensure justice is done.
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Speaker 1: This kid was out on parole for similar offenses when
45:28
Speaker 1: he went and did this, and the judge, by her
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Speaker 1: own admission, described his juvenile criminal record as quote unquote extraordinary,
45:37
Speaker 1: and then said I could have sentenced you the longer
45:40
Speaker 1: jail term, but I'm only going to give you two years.
45:42
Speaker 1: It could have been much longer than that. No wonder
45:44
Speaker 1: people are fed up with the judicial systm.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, there's also hope that I'll go home tonight
45:48
Speaker 4: there'll be a brand new Rolls Royce at the front.
45:50
Speaker 4: Nigella will be cooking me dinner. I mean, you know,
45:52
Speaker 4: we can all have hope, but it's just not realistic.
45:55
Speaker 4: Now the story very quickly before we get to the break,
45:57
Speaker 4: upside down world where the crims chain police. While we're
46:00
Speaker 4: on this theme, anywhere else in the world, the police
46:03
Speaker 4: would be in hot pursuit of thieves in a stolen car,
46:05
Speaker 4: but in the upside down world of the Northern Territory,
46:08
Speaker 4: it's the cops on the run from the crims. Last weekend,
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Speaker 4: t he police were filmed being chased in their own
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Speaker 4: vehicle by young men in a stolen Toyota flat bedland Cruiser.
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Speaker 4: The alleged thieves so cocky they rear ended the fleeing
46:21
Speaker 4: police car. And when you see things like we just
46:23
Speaker 4: talked about, then is it any wonder that young crims
46:26
Speaker 4: think they have it over the cops and the judiciary.
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Speaker 1: Well, we're going to go to a break, but stick around.
46:31
Speaker 1: Coming up in just a moment, what do you do
46:32
Speaker 1: when you're trailing in the polls and an election is
46:35
Speaker 1: only three weeks away. Well, if you're the Federal Liberal Party,
46:38
Speaker 1: you release a rap song that's coming up in just.
46:40
Speaker 2: A moment, welcome back. Well, how does that old song go? Caliber?
46:45
Speaker 2: Kiss is just a kiss unless it's with Tania Pliversec.
46:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've finally found something more awkward than meeting your
46:51
Speaker 4: mother in law for the first time, and it's Anthony
46:53
Speaker 4: Albaneazi with Tania Piliverseik at the Labor campaign launch over
46:58
Speaker 4: the weekend. I mean, take a look at is she
47:00
Speaker 4: has clearly gone in for the hug and elbows not
47:05
Speaker 4: having a bar. I mean, look at that. See she
47:08
Speaker 4: goes puts grabs onto the hands and it's like, what oh,
47:12
Speaker 4: what is going on there? Clearly there's beef between the two.
47:16
Speaker 4: But have a listen to how Blibersick tried to explain
47:19
Speaker 4: it away.
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Speaker 3: Looks like you're going in for the hug.
47:23
Speaker 4: Here we go going in, but he's kind of just
47:26
Speaker 4: grabbed your hands.
47:27
Speaker 3: Done the ORCS thing where he's done the double shake,
47:30
Speaker 3: was that we put him this sound effect.
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Speaker 7: Joe's up a bit orcs.
47:34
Speaker 3: What happened there?
47:37
Speaker 6: Do you know what I reckon we should still all
47:39
Speaker 6: be elbow bumping, because during an election campaign, the last
47:43
Speaker 6: thing you want is to catch a cold from someone.
47:46
Speaker 4: Oh that was elbow being health I mean please.
47:54
Speaker 3: Joyce's face was absolutely the best, and I think he
47:57
Speaker 3: sums it up perfectly for all of us watching that.
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Speaker 2: You wouldn't have seen that clip.
48:02
Speaker 1: But after she said, oh, you know, bump elbows, Barnaby,
48:06
Speaker 1: Joyce went shoulder chart, which is probably more reflective of
48:09
Speaker 1: how fiverse feels about the Albanizi. Of course, coming up
48:13
Speaker 1: to the election, the coalition and trailing in the polls,
48:16
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of undecided voters. However, so what
48:19
Speaker 1: would cause people still trying to work out which way
48:22
Speaker 1: to go Liberal or Labor to swing their vote towards
48:25
Speaker 1: the coalition. Well, the Liberal Party have come up with
48:28
Speaker 1: a rap song, because of course that's going to do it.
48:31
Speaker 1: It begins with the line referring to grocery prices. It
48:34
Speaker 1: ain't the way it's supposed to be. Indeed, live in
48:38
Speaker 1: shad to check.
48:39
Speaker 4: Labor got to still and self stressed. We need to
48:41
Speaker 4: find a solution.
48:42
Speaker 3: We to switch up the people in the power. I
48:44
Speaker 3: just want to put food on the table willing to
48:46
Speaker 3: do it.
48:46
Speaker 4: I got and bring them braces down.
48:49
Speaker 3: This is what we need because.
48:51
Speaker 4: Our bull's got to leave, ourbow's got to leave.
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Speaker 2: As mature this desk.
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Speaker 1: I'm not doing the dance because I am not convinced.
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Speaker 1: Still swayed by such immature and rot.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I got loosen up, have some fun. I actually
49:04
Speaker 3: like it. I'm not going to add it to Spotify
49:06
Speaker 3: anytime soon, but I think it's a vibe.
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Speaker 4: Oh, I know I'm going I'm getting rid of Classic.
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Speaker 4: If I'm on the way home tonight, I'm listening to that.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's all we've got time for stick around. Coming
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Speaker 1: up is The Reader Petty Show.
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Speaker 2: Good Night. We'll see it tomorrow