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Best Of Full Interview: Tye Tribbett On Winning Grammy For Gospel, Battling Depression, Finding God Outside Of Church + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in stej Envy Jess hilarious. Shall
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  Speaker 2: I mean the guy? We are the Breakfast Club. You
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  Speaker 2: got a special guest in the buildings ind God Tribute.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome brother, thanksving me.
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  Speaker 1: What's up y'all? Y'all?
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations he just won a Grammy twenty twenty four Grammy
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  Speaker 2: for Gospel Album.
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  Speaker 1: So congratulations.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, three in total. Man, I'm so hype about that
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  Speaker 3: and excited. You know, Uh, it wasn't needed, but it's
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  Speaker 3: it's appreciated.
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  Speaker 4: Do you pray for stuff like that?
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  Speaker 1: Nah? I used to?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I used to, but I had to get
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  Speaker 3: my you know, uh, the reason why I do what
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 1: I had to get that in order.
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  Speaker 3: I had to you know, yeah, intention exactly. Last year
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  Speaker 3: I was nominated for two Grammys, and I just knew
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  Speaker 3: I was.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna walk away with at least one.
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  Speaker 3: And when I walked away with none, it was like
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  Speaker 3: a soul check for me, Like, all right, well, why
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  Speaker 3: do you do what you do?
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  Speaker 1: Bro? You gotta just just kind of re evaluate all
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  Speaker 1: of that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: So I kind of like stopped needing it or stopped
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  Speaker 3: wanting it so bad and stopped so ambitially going for it.
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  Speaker 1: Just stick to it.
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  Speaker 3: The reason why I do what I do, have fun
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  Speaker 3: doing it. Bless the people, show love, give him Christ,
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  Speaker 3: and uh this year when I walked away with it, Yo,
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  Speaker 3: we literally sat like in the back. Because the Gospels,
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  Speaker 3: they don't present the gospel on the on the Grammy
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  Speaker 3: we got the pre award.
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  Speaker 1: They could do it. I was like nine o'clock in
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  Speaker 1: the morning, you know what I'm saying. I had to
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  Speaker 1: wake up on early.
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  Speaker 3: And we went to the pre show and it's open
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  Speaker 3: seating there, so you can see anywhere you want.
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  Speaker 1: So my manager like, YO, come on, let's let's go
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  Speaker 1: to the front. Bro. I'm like, noah, man, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: sit back here.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna take a l I don't like that long
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  Speaker 3: walk of shame.
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  Speaker 1: It's too far, so let's just stay close to the exit.
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  Speaker 3: So we was in the back, chill, and I got
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  Speaker 3: it all on video and they called on everybody's name.
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  Speaker 1: Of course when they call my name, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: because I was really content.
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  Speaker 3: I had to learn really just to be content, because
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  Speaker 3: you know, being overly ambitious is robs you of gratitude.
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  Speaker 1: Then you just get on and feel like going down
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  Speaker 1: that rabbit hole so.
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  Speaker 2: Loved to make you have to take that long walk
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  Speaker 2: up to the stage.
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  Speaker 1: Had to take that.
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  Speaker 3: I was running like, oh my goodness, trying to figure
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  Speaker 3: out what I'm gonna say on the way because I
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  Speaker 3: literally didn't respect to win, but you know I was
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  Speaker 3: gonna beat it. Had to show them how to be
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  Speaker 3: a good, sore loser in Christ.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm just proud of you every time you nominated.
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  Speaker 5: Thirteen nomination is that crazy?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: So even without winning the awards, I'm like, you're recognized
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  Speaker 5: like by so many to be nominated thirteen times.
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  Speaker 1: True true love that after a while you just get
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  Speaker 1: used to.
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  Speaker 3: I should start celebrating the nominations, you know what I mean, because.
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  Speaker 6: There's a lot of people that don't make it there
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  Speaker 6: either exactly or.
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  Speaker 1: You just pile up the els. Thirteen but I lost no.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah albums, Your work touched a lot of souls.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for that.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 6: To me, I love that.
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  Speaker 1: I love doing what I do and why I do it.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: People leave my shows, they're not just turned up, but
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  Speaker 3: they got hope, you know what I mean, They got inspiration.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, and healing and all of
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  Speaker 3: that's taking place. So I love what I do and
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  Speaker 3: why I do it.
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  Speaker 1: Man, it's a blessing.
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  Speaker 7: And you're from Camden, Camden, New Jersey, bro and until
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  Speaker 7: you lived there your whole life.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, in Florida, then Houston for a year in Florida. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so growing up in Canon, you know, well, if you
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  Speaker 3: don't know, y'all should know here.
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  Speaker 1: You know in New York, y'all know about Canada.
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  Speaker 4: To ask God why?
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  Speaker 1: So many days I have got why? But I had to.
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  Speaker 3: I had to get it in the trenches. I had
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  Speaker 3: to learn in the gut and how to. I had
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  Speaker 3: to learn how to be in the valley before you
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  Speaker 3: be in the mountain.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: So so I can know what it is to struggle,
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  Speaker 3: So I can know what it is to be impoverished.
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  Speaker 3: So I can know what it is. You know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean to be underprivileged. So when it happened for me,
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  Speaker 3: I could reach back and say, hey, this is how
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  Speaker 3: you do it, This is how you come up and
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  Speaker 3: help others.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 7: I think it takes people like you, because when I
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  Speaker 7: see somebody like you have the success that they have
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  Speaker 7: from Camden. You really don't hear a lot of good
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  Speaker 7: things about cam Yeah, for real, you this.
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  Speaker 3: Murder capital of the world sometime, or the most violent city.
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  Speaker 3: I remember those stats growing up, like, Hey, Camd's on
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  Speaker 3: the map. We in the newspaper for what, oh, most
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  Speaker 3: violent city, you know what I mean? That's not it's
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  Speaker 3: in Baltimore. Probably not too different, No shade to Baltimore.
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  Speaker 3: I love, I love yeah, everybody you know coming up
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  Speaker 3: coming out of that, you know, I'm glad.
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  Speaker 1: I had like a little family church.
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  Speaker 3: We had little fifty member family church that we had
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  Speaker 3: just kept us ground and kept us focused. And I
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  Speaker 3: was just like tunnel vision the whole time, and slowly
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  Speaker 3: but surely I just saw myself not like my surroundings. Now,
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  Speaker 3: that was a challenge in itself, because you don't know
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  Speaker 3: you're different until you know you different, and then you
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  Speaker 3: know you got family to deal with and friends to
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  Speaker 3: deal with who are like, oh, I don't change on us,
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  Speaker 3: D da da da.
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  Speaker 1: But bro, if I don't change.
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  Speaker 3: I can't help you, you know what I'm saying. So
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  Speaker 3: that was a challenge for me at a very young age.
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  Speaker 3: Knowing I could now when I was talented, knowing I
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  Speaker 3: could play, knowing I could do music, and knowing it was.
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  Speaker 1: What's the word extraordinary? It wasn't just normal.
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  Speaker 3: So that change was a challenge. But you know, I'm
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  Speaker 3: glad that all things work together for good man.
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask you, know what I'm saying. With
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  Speaker 2: being a gospel singer, do you feel like it's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of pressure on you where it's almost like people
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  Speaker 2: look at your life differently right, Like it's almost like
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  Speaker 2: they want you to be perfect. Did you have a
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  Speaker 2: hard time dealing with that?
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  Speaker 1: Help with that.
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  Speaker 3: Before I became a gospel artist. So speaking of growing
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  Speaker 3: up in this small church, my grandmother was the pastor. First,
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  Speaker 3: my dad was on the organ. I'm watching him every
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  Speaker 3: Sunday like, oh my god, this guy is amazing. I
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  Speaker 3: start playing. Then he became the pastor. So I got
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  Speaker 3: that pressure as a PK, the perfection, all of that,
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  Speaker 3: all of that. I got all of that pressures as
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  Speaker 3: a young kid, like twelve nine when I was. Since
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  Speaker 3: I was, since I've been born, spotlight has been on
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  Speaker 3: me to be.
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  Speaker 1: The poster child for what Christ is. I'm like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: the worst why pressure though? Because of the damn too
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  Speaker 1: much hand comes leads the rebellion. Man, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean?
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  Speaker 3: That legalism and that religious structure. It leads to like, yo,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not cut out for this. I didn't sign up
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  Speaker 3: for this. Y'all sign up for this and the expectation
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  Speaker 3: is too much for me. Yo, So I I just rebel.
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  Speaker 3: People go completely opposite of the ways that their parents
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  Speaker 3: bring them up when you bring them up too strict.
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  Speaker 3: I came up the same way. I had the pressure
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  Speaker 3: of perfection and I tried to live up to it
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  Speaker 3: until my parents got a divorce.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, whoa.
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  Speaker 3: In my day that was like, you know, it's normal
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  Speaker 3: now every day it happens every day. Back then, it
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  Speaker 3: was like a culture shouting for me. It shattered my
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  Speaker 3: whole world.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, bump the church. Then, what I'm doing there?
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  Speaker 1: Why am I being faithful to God in it? Man?
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  Speaker 1: My dad, I'm out, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: That's when I went to all the clubs did.
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  Speaker 1: All that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't dance though, I just played at all the clubs.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't, you know, I still didn't drained and smoke.
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  Speaker 3: I just went and played the keyboard at all the
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  Speaker 3: club for like music, soul child, Jill Scott, everybody in
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  Speaker 3: the Philadelphia area of the roots and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm in there playing hymns to the beasts. They
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  Speaker 3: don't even know what I'm doing. But I kind of
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  Speaker 3: had my little rebellious moment during that time, just to
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  Speaker 3: find out who I am outside of y'all expectations. Man,
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  Speaker 3: I said, of who y'all saying God is to me,
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  Speaker 3: let me find them for myself. Let me figure out
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  Speaker 3: who you're for myself. And it's been the most liberating thing.
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  Speaker 3: And I've been walking in that since.
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  Speaker 7: I feel like that's a journey, and that's a formal
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  Speaker 7: liberation every human has to experience in their life.
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  Speaker 4: You and you should like strive to feel that.
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  Speaker 3: No literally, whether you're religious or a church or not.
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  Speaker 3: Just the family, just family bond, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Blood all of that family can bind you, bro Family
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  Speaker 3: can keep you stuck in a level that you never
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be in for the rest of your life.
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  Speaker 1: People who love you can bind you.
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  Speaker 3: Do through their care, through their love, through their expectations,
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  Speaker 3: through manipulation, through emotional manipulation.
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  Speaker 1: It's a whole lot of things that keep us.
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  Speaker 3: From being who we're supposed to be in this earth
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  Speaker 3: because of other people's expectations and demand. So I'm all
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  Speaker 3: about freedom, man. My My whole life is freedom. My
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  Speaker 3: whole mantra is about freedom. So when you when you
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  Speaker 3: you know, contact me or hear my music, people think
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  Speaker 3: it's energy. I like to call it the spirit of freedom, man,
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  Speaker 3: liberating everybody, because you need that. When you don't know
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  Speaker 3: you bound, that's the worst. When you don't know you're bound,
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  Speaker 3: that is the worst. When you become used to being manipulated,
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  Speaker 3: used to being controlled, used to being used.
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  Speaker 1: You can either be used or loved. You can't be both.
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  Speaker 1: You could either be used or love.
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  Speaker 3: And a lot of people are being used and not
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  Speaker 3: realizing they're not experiencing true love, man. So they just
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  Speaker 3: just get used to being used, like all right, I'll
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  Speaker 3: do this for you, I'll come through for you, I'll
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  Speaker 3: do it whenever you call me, I'm there.
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  Speaker 1: And they think that's that's love. But a lot of
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  Speaker 1: them are being used.
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  Speaker 7: Did a lot of those triggers resurface in your marriage
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  Speaker 7: when you separated?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Well me and my wife separated.
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  Speaker 3: It was it was it was bad, yo, it was
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  Speaker 3: it was very very bad for me because I didn't
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  Speaker 3: think my whole thing. When my father messed up with
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  Speaker 3: my dad, I'm like, I ain't never gonna be like him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm never gonna do that. No, no, no, So I
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  Speaker 1: went the pride way.
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  Speaker 3: So my heart just really was like, you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I got more exposure than he ever got.
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  Speaker 3: I got more notoriot than he ever got. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: still ain't gonna do what he did. I'm still letting
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  Speaker 3: that pride.
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  Speaker 1: Comes before a fall. And I fell hard and I
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  Speaker 1: moved to La. My wife was in Jersey. We just separated.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think we would ever, you know, get back
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  Speaker 1: together again. I was just out there working on me.
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  Speaker 1: She was out there.
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  Speaker 3: She was out there working on her, not really trying
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  Speaker 3: to get the marriage back together. And I think when
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  Speaker 3: you try to do that too soon, sometimes you damage
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  Speaker 3: you know, you damage it because you just your point
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  Speaker 3: is just to try to get them get back together,
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  Speaker 3: but not work on you, because you still got stuff
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  Speaker 3: you got to work. I still have stuff I had
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  Speaker 3: to work on. I still had weaknesses I had to
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  Speaker 3: work on. And so I'm out there working on me,
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  Speaker 3: she's working on her. I'm praying. She's praying that God
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  Speaker 3: kind of just brought our hearts back together. But through
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  Speaker 3: that whole time, I realized my mortality, I realized my humanism,
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  Speaker 3: I realized my weaknesses. I realized who I was for real,
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  Speaker 3: like this religious perspective. I became that like like now
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  Speaker 3: I'm a pastor, right, But I don't say I'm a pastor.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just a child of God with asignment.
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  Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying. I'm a child of God
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  Speaker 3: who got something to say to a certain group of people.
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  Speaker 3: I don't become my assignment. You understand what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: But that's the world today. If I would to meet
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  Speaker 3: you in the street, the first thing I'll say is
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  Speaker 3: what do you do?
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  Speaker 1: Not who are you? You understand what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: And I think we lose who we are and what
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  Speaker 3: we do. And that's what I did. I got lost
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  Speaker 3: in all of that, and I forgot who I was.
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  Speaker 7: And now I read that you you battle with deep
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  Speaker 7: depression during that time, Yeah, contmpleted suicide.
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  Speaker 4: What got you out of that?
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  Speaker 3: Literally, what got me out of suicide initially was just people.
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  Speaker 3: It was just people around me too much. I couldn't
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  Speaker 3: get by myself. It was just always literally, it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: my prayer life. It wasn't the Holy ghost, it was peep.
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  Speaker 3: It was physical people around me.
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  Speaker 1: Ty you good, TI? You want to eat TI.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, cause y'all just leaves like a pope, these pills,
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  Speaker 3: because y'all just leaves like to try to do all
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  Speaker 3: this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But depression is a.
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  Speaker 3: Deep, deep, deep dark spirit, man, And I'm glad that
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  Speaker 3: I had people around me to help me get through
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  Speaker 3: that season.
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  Speaker 8: Man.
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  Speaker 3: Just all those thoughts and all those suggestions that come
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  Speaker 3: to us, man, and we feel like it's us.
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  Speaker 1: I love that I call them. I called them well.
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  Speaker 3: I had a little series that I called Ghostbusters, right, so,
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  Speaker 3: because there's other ghosts besides the holy ghosts. And if
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  Speaker 3: you don't differentiate what ghost is speaking to you, bro,
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  Speaker 3: you could be lost in that whole rabbit hole of depression, suicide, stress,
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  Speaker 3: all of these things. My issue is we let all
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  Speaker 3: these ghosts talk to us, and we do what they say,
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  Speaker 3: and we take on the moves and the and the
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  Speaker 3: attitudes of all these voices that are speaking to us.
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  Speaker 3: Therapy helps, counseling helps, but ultimately the spirit of God
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  Speaker 3: is the only one that could really, you know, deliver
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  Speaker 3: us and rescue us from that man. And I had
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  Speaker 3: I had that. I had that, but I was there,
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  Speaker 3: and I couldn't believe I was there. I love my life,
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  Speaker 3: I love my wife, I love I thought I was.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I was good.
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  Speaker 3: But then when tragedy hits you and you just can't
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  Speaker 3: take it and you just feel like you have no
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  Speaker 3: other option. It was really the embarrassment. It was really
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  Speaker 3: the pride of everybody know who I am. It really
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  Speaker 3: wasn't life was so hard. It was how I saw
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  Speaker 3: myself and how I thought I was. So when you
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  Speaker 3: just drop who you are, like yo, when you just
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  Speaker 3: just just.
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  Speaker 1: Kill who you think you are, man, just be nothing.
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  Speaker 3: The Bible says, uh uh, he who seeks to save
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  Speaker 3: his life will lose it. But if you lose your life,
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  Speaker 3: you'll gain it. So I lost the celebrity side of me.
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  Speaker 3: I lost the godspel artists. I lost I like, forget
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  Speaker 3: being the father, forget being a husband, forget all these
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  Speaker 3: things I think I am. I'm just I'm just tired
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  Speaker 3: right now. And then that's when salvation begin to come.
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  Speaker 5: Because you really are bigger than your image, and it
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  Speaker 5: was all in the image that you were living in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's that's not that's not social media today.
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  Speaker 3: You are your image today.
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  Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. You are, You are who
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  Speaker 1: you post today.
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  Speaker 5: So that's why it's also a lot of suicide out
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  Speaker 5: of a lot of depression, a lot more than we
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  Speaker 5: see it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, how challenging is it to be to be
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  Speaker 3: on social media? You understand what I'm saying. I know
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  Speaker 3: some people who will never be beyond the camera without
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  Speaker 3: they lashes on, who will never get on there without
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  Speaker 3: certain things. So how challenging is it to be your
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  Speaker 3: authentic self on social media? I don't think or onto
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  Speaker 3: the world. I don't think people are ready to bear
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  Speaker 3: that nakedness, you know what I'm saying. But it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: take somebody who's undershamed to be like, hey, this is
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  Speaker 3: me and love me or leave me and just run.
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  Speaker 1: The risk of that. But I don't think people are
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  Speaker 1: ready for that.
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  Speaker 6: I did that early.
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  Speaker 5: I got a little it's a little ponytail.
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  Speaker 6: It's still going around.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: You try to get it off.
• 13:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm trying get it off now, But I'm like, yo,
• 13:34
  Speaker 5: that's that's when I first started, and it was out there.
• 13:36
  Speaker 6: They put T shirt, put it on T shirts and everything,
• 13:39
  Speaker 6: like Jess. It was a lot of I sold it out,
• 13:43
  Speaker 6: but I was like, you know what.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: This down But that's what I loved about you. That's
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: what I love. You understand what I'm saying.
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: Damn, just don't give them right right?
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: Would you do it? Though you admire that, but would
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: you do it? Would you do it?
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: If I had the poonty that would.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Head?
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: There's a picture there's a picture of Charlamagne with head
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: and look kind of like it starts back here, But
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: you never posted that.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: I got to see that.
• 14:13
  Speaker 7: I think you and your whole situation is just a
• 14:15
  Speaker 7: testament to the glory of God.
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: You you and your wife were together.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: Now yeah, she's right here, right behind me.
• 14:19
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: She survived the car. Y'all been through a lot.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: Ye, a whole, a whole, a whole lot.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: It seemed like a series of unfortunate events, you know
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And her life, I mean, it's just
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: it just it just starts from I'm gonna say it
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: starts from burst. Everybody's life starts from U. But with
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: the with growing up with parents like I had and
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: she was basically fatherless for a long period of time.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: You grow up with a whole lot of unmet needs,
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You have needs as a
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: child that you should have met that you don't have met. Security, protection, encouragement, validation,
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: all of these things.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: We we affection.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: We have to grow up without that right, So now
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: we got to make the choice of either like living
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: without it or killing the desire period. So now we
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: commit what we call my man Tim Fletcher calls sole suicide.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: So you commit sole suicide because as a child of
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: three year.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Old, I need affection.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know I need it, but naturally I need it,
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: and if I don't get it, I just killed the
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: desire for it. So now I'm in a relationship and
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know how to be affection saying you understand
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Or I got kids and I don't
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: know how to show that because I've been killed that.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: So now we're trying to like restore those things and
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: trying to do it in the context of marriage. A
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: marriage her at eighteen, I was twenty one, So that's
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: a that's a kid. Those are kids when I look
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: at them. Ages now I'm like, man, it was a kid.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: That's really little kid. We live together? Huh?
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: How long y'all been together?
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Twenty eight now?
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's twenty eight years.
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: Gah, my wife twenty six over being his wife thirty thirty.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: I congrass, bro, So y'all know what I'm talking about.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: Listen. I relate to your story so much.
• 16:01
  Speaker 7: Even when you talk about how you know what you
• 16:03
  Speaker 7: saw in your father and not wanting to be like that, yeah,
• 16:06
  Speaker 7: and then finding out that you became just like that later,
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: do you understand?
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, do you understand?
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Man, that's like a that's like a that's like a
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: It's like a shock to your whole to your whole system.
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: You got to do a whole lot of rewiring man.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: And my thing is, I think a lot of people
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: know they need help. Where they go to get help
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: is just as important as knowing you need help.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: So you know what I mean.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: So therapists and all that stuff, I think that I
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: think that's all is great, But I like to go
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: to the source. I like to go to the creator,
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: and I believe God is the creative of all of us.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: If you don't turn to God, man, you'll get a
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: band there, you'll get medicated, but the real healing is
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: in Jesus Christ.
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: I'm believe in God and therapy me too, me too,
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: and plant based medicine and healing and meditation.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: I can't spoke to with your brother, but I understand,
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: but I feel I'm God.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I am mad at you, Bro.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: I ain't hear the judge at all, but you know,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: I just feel like when something else becomes your source,
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: something else is your source, you know what I mean.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: And that's the scary part to me. I don't want
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: another thing besides God to be my source. Everything could
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: be a resource, and if God leads me to that, fine,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: But if I just choose it, I could damage myself
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: and my life and what I want and desire to
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: do or be in life.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: But what do you think about some of the It
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: seems like for a while, maybe the last ten years,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: it seems like being a pastor was cool, right, So
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: it was like like everybody wanted to be a rapper,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: everybody wanted to be a podcast host. At least, like
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of people wanted to be pastor for the
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: wrong reasons.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you feel about that? You missed that
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: or the past error remember the past, you know, man,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: it was building them huge churches. Everybody was.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I think the pastor phenomenon came from, oh, man.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Getting money.
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: There's a bunch of different things.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: You can speak to them more, but I think getting
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: money in the church and how you look and how
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: you're praised is and you forget that he's supposed to
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: be praised, but I praise you and all that type
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: of stuff.
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: So yeah, I see a lot of Instagram pass out there, but.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: You know it is you killed.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: You killed that whole thing. I think a lot of
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: pastors were not called the pastor. They just you know, study,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: you go to school and then you just become a
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: pastor like you become a manager at you know, publics
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: or something like that. And that's that's unfortunate for a
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: lot of people who invest their you know, money, time, attention,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: and their soul into people who they believe are literally
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: called from God. I don't believe a lot of pastors are.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I think I think.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: It's a system. Now on God. It's a system.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Everything is a system, and systems work with or without God.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: So I think the institution of church is whack. I
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: think how church is ran is whack. I think the
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: religious system and structure is whack. I don't subscribe to it,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: even though I grew up in it, I benefited from it.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: But I learned that God is not the church.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: And once I realized whoa God? Ain't church for me?
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I ain't from the streets.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I'm from the church. So that was a huge thing
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: It's in the marbles, say you can't even find God
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: in the man made too.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Why don't we read that?
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: Though?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: How often do you hear that sermon?
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: No?
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: You hear people. Pastors make the people about the church.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: We got the church name, we Church and the church
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: and the bumper stick of the church.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: The church should be about the people. The church should
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: be about the people. But the church makes the people
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: about the church.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: So all churches now are a movement, but they're not
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: about the people.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: They're not about serving and loving the people. So I
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: just kind of pulled that.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: We online right now. We're not even in the building,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: a physical building or nothing like that. So Live Church,
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: shout out to Live Church. I love y'all so much.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Live Church, Orlando. We're online right now. And because we
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: had an issue with a building, and now I'm like,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: hold up, what's going on here? Like do we need
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: a bit like you understand what I'm saying, like in
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: order to do what we need to do affect people,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: serve and love and minister. I'm just looking at everything
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: differently at this point because the church structure has really
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of people who won't even
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: go to church.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Obviously when the last time y'all been to church?
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: I go every Sunday on bedside Baptist. Yeah, I like
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: watching Potter's House online.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, okay, wait to jump down here through and
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: be like, no, you don't every Sunday.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: But why not?
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: Honestly is because it's not too many churches that speak
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: to my spirit. I really do like what they do
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: in the Potter's House. I think there's a lot of
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: annoying in that church from Bishop td Jake's Jake Roberts
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: the truth to So even when I'm in Dallas, if
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: I'm now on like today, I'll stay just to go
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: on like this, you physically go, oh absolutely, what about you?
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: For me?
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: It's I used to hate going to church as a kid,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: right because Baptist Church is staying there for five hours,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: especially if somebody's getting baptized, you gotta dress up. So
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: it made me not necessarily love it right. And I
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: noticed that with my kids when I took them to church,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: it became mature, like I gotta get dressed. I got
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: this for now. On Sunday morning, we can cook breakfast together,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: sit down on the couch and watch it and it's comfortable.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Then gotta get dressed. They ain't got Mommy, ain't got
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: to do the kids here, Yeah, they ain't got to
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: make sure things are right because they got to sit there. Now,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: it's not that at all. It's all about the church,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: which I prefer. So, yeah, we go online, you know
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: what I mean. And I don't have to just stick
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: to one church. You know, as a kid growing up
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: in New York, we always had to go to Brooklyn
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: to Grandma's church.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: There was no option.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: It was let me try something else. Now on TV
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: one day, I can turn dollar next day, I can
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: turn next day, and I can get different feelings and
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: my kids can as well. So I prefer that as
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: well too.
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: Why you don't, I was, he was going to ask me.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: I was, so, yeah, So I still have I still
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: belong to my home church in Baltimore City Restoration Christian
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: and Cocleesia Church. And I'm not in Baltimore on Sundays anymore,
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: you know, just I have to be here.
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: I gotta wake up three forty five in the morning.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: But even before that, I was doing shows Thursday through Sunday,
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: so I wasn't able to go. And if I just
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: try more, I can definitely get on the road to
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: come up here after church because church is from ten
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: to twelve, ten to one sometimes.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: But I still pay my times, you know what I mean, I.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Still give all.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Friend, my mom's a deacon. I grew up in that church.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: It was called Holy Church of Christ when I was younger,
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: and my son has been Christian in that church. And
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: my my baby that I'm having now will go and
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: get Christian. I'm never I don't want to go to
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: another church.
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: I will listen to a sermon from someone else like
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: y'all listen to Sarah Jakes, you know, I will, and
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: different podcasts as well. But I just my my reason
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: is simply just an excuse. I just don't go to
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: church because I travel.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, I get that. What do y'all look for when
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: you go to a church. What do y'all, what do
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: y'all look for?
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Like you said, everyone, don't don't touch your soul, don't
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: minister to your spirit.
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: It's not about what I look for. It's about what
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: I feel got it. It's a feeling, you know what
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: I mean?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Like you just I know what you mean.
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: Would just speak to your soul? You know, I think, Sorry,
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: Jake's right now, mans to me.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: I'm talking to you all the time, even when I
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: just want to listen to her podcast.
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: So I just think some people have an annoying on
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: them for the moment that we are in. And just
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: like her father had it and still has it, you know,
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: she has it for the current.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Moment that we're in.
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: And then another thing, So growing up in a church where.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm so used to that back in the
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: day like Manson's, I don't want to go to a big, big,
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: big church because the pastor don't know me. I'm used
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: to going to talk to the past pastor after church,
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: going to get that individual prayer, going to tell him
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: what I'm struggling with and all that. As a teenager,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: I was going through a lot of things, you know
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: what I mean. So I would be able to go
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: and talk to my uncle he is the bishop, Like,
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: go and talk to him and stuff like that. But
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: I've gone to churches where you know, the pastor don't
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: even know you, and he's not even tripping off getting.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: To know nobody.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he just come and he do his thing. They
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: sing a whole album before he starts the sermon. Yet, yes, right,
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: you shout. I see people shouting. I see you know
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: all of that. And that's what I'm used to because
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: you not inuble I start coming from there and then
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: absolutely no wood.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: I started going to church till later got you growing
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: for that.
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: Whole going around knocking on the doors.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: How you doing? How you know? That's what I'm talking about.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm talking time for that.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: But you got time to walk down every black and
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: handing the pamphlets.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and too early y'all come to it came around noon,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: to'll be honest.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: So yeah, this is the personal personal has been lost,
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And then it becomes to
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: the point where the.
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: Like I said, the pastor feel.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: Like he's got Yeah, that's what I'm talking to churches
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: and and.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: That's what I meant by churches is whacking, because I
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: know I went on just wack whack whacking church probably
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: like you just in my church last week.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I don't mean that.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I mean I mean that stuff right there and what
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: has become I have found it.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I have found it.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I think I said the right challenging to know everyone
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: in my church, though I found it.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I found it challenging. I try to be personable. I
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: try to.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I stay at the church and just I stand at
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: whoever want to come to me, they can talk to me.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I don't got the.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Eighty security guards and all that, right, I'm standing, they
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: can talk to me.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: But it's a challenge to know everybody in the church.
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: And that's a big that's because a bigger, it's a bigger, bigger.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: But your new families though, like in my church, they
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: knew the Casey family and parents, they knew the Johnson's
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: and it is one of that one was a new family.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, overall, and that means something that that
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: that means a lot to people. But what if you
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: didn't get that, does that mean that's not the church
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: for you? Because Moses led millions of people.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I doubt he knew you.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Know what I mean, joh Qubbos, whatever his name was,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I doubt, I doubt he knew everyone, but he was
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: still their leader. So I tried to look at it
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: from a lot of perspectives, you know what I mean,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: and make sure people are coming for the right reason,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: and make sure or the pastor is there for let me.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Ask you a question.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Right, So, growing up in Queen's I went to Catholic school. Right,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: my zone school is the worst, so my parents was
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: making me go to Capital School. I wasn't going to
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Andrew Jackson, but I noticed in Catholic school as a kid,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Catholic school thirty thirty minutes, maybe thirty five, you up
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: out of there. It's I mean, didn't gone, I'm back home.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Baptist church is three hours.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. So we don't want to say,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: but it's the point.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: As a kid, you know, you you feel like I
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: get everything I need in this thirty minutes. I don't
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: need this in three and a half hours. I was
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: always wonder like why is the church so long? Because
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: you know, you got announcements, then you get passed it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: You're gonna pass it around twice. Then since then so
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: and so got to talk about.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: And if you don't give enough on the first off,
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: we almost.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Almost they double back, you know what I mean. And
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I think that's part of it why it's so long.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think churches have changed since then. I don't
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: think churches is three hours like that anymore. I mean
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: not she I think it's like nothing I've seen she
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: going in. I've seen church structures like ninety minutes, you
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. They try to be more mindful
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: of that. And the more you know, current churches and
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, they try to do, they try to
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: cut that down a little bit. But I think the
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: reason is is people just have a lot of expression. Man,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: they got a lot of They got a lot to say,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: They got a lot to get out. You understand what
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. I hated the law churches. I grew up Pentecostal.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: So Pentecostal church. What three hours?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: That's it? We're just getting right, yo. Three When you
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: said three hours, like what, man, we just getting started.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: We had nothing else to do. We ain't had no
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: social media. Well, Sundays was for God, so we was
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: gonna stay all Sunday. So after the five Hours Center
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: back after the five hour service. You service, come on,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: you better stay for that second.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: We got people coming.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I hated that, but I'm so glad it was like
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: that for me as a remember young you understand what
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: I'm saying.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad it was like that for me because
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: it just kept me from a whole lot.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: You like Michael Williams.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: You, Yeah, Chris rock a lot and uh, I don't
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: know who Michael K.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Willim So you got a similar interview.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I never met him, very energetic. I never met him.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Maybe we need to hook up or something like that.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he dad, he done.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Oh I don't know. Okay, I guess I can't. I
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: guess I can. I guess I can't. Don't get today.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Don't give me the dog here today. I'm sorry. I
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: didn't know. I don't know.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to cut him on.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Y'all will connect one day if you believe you can
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: see him again, I have done.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Is the true that you worked on justin Tim Blake's
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Crime Me River?
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I worked on I was.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: We was in the Root studio again growing up in
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: the Philly Camden, Philly area. We did our first album
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: at the at the Root Studio. Crazy how we got
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: signed to. Vivian Green is like an R and B
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: soul artist and she was doing a showcase for uh
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Tommy Mottola and Donnie Irono and the matt Sony and
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: she said, Tie, you know, I was like her cousin
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: at the time. We were like, real close, Ty, I
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: want you to m D my show case. I know
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: you asked me this. I'm just taking you know, you
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: know I want you to MD my showcase. I said,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: all right, bet, I got a little couple of people
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: from the choir, a couple of people from the band.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: We just put together a little show for viv So,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: speaking of energy and all that, we in there with
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Tommy Mattola and and Donnie iron and all these people
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: at Columbia and I'm just young, you know, I'm just playing.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm like this all the time. If I'm playing,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: I'm like this, you know what I mean?
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Everything is energetic.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: So they like, we love Vivian Green, we're gonna sign
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: her to Columbia, and we're gonna sign this guy right here.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Who's that And it was like, oh no, no, no, no,
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: that's that's a that's a gospel guy. You know, he
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: does choir and stuff like that. We're signing Vivian and
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: we're signing the gospel guy.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I was like, what. Within ninety days, we.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Had a contract at our crib from Columbia Records. No demo,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: no black and white, no no profile pickre, no nothing,
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: and we got signed to Columbia.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Uh with you know, nah, she got her deal. I
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: got my deal.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: So my first album came out under Columbia Records, called
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Life because because of that, that moment right there, I'm like, well,
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: God is really real, you know what I mean. I mean,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: you could say being in the right place at the
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: right time, but I believe in the favor of God.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: And so we're doing our album in the Root studio.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: James Poyser shout out. James Poyser was a producer on that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: He's with the Roots. Now you're singing on Jimmy Fallon
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: every night and uh.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: In the Root studio, they had the plant based you know,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: stuff going on every single day. G was in there,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: We was in there getting contact. You'll try to sing
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: the praises of the Lord and just being in that environment.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Then the rooster is like, oh, you know why don't
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: you do this such a stubs coming to the studio,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: such as us coming to the studio, such and such.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: We just became the choir for like everybody who came.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: So we're on Jessica Simpson's Christmas album and we're on
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: so many albums as background singers. So Timberland came through
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: and we just called him Vibe Timbland. We were just
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: in there just vibing. Tim just put a beat on it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: We were just in there playing. I love working with Tim.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Tim.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: We could ever do that again, bro, Yeah, please let's
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: look that up. So we was in there vibing the
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: crimea River. He said, I got this somble Justice. So
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I'm in there like, okay, dudent, dude, dud dude. So
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: that's me playing that literally on the world it sir,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: that's literally literally me. And then the backgrounds on there
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: and me and my girl Marshall from Flower Tree.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Did the background yeah, and she amazing. Yo, shout out Marshall.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I love you girl.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: We did the backgrounds to that. And so just when
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: it came out and were listening to it and it's
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: everywhere since seventy eleven, and why were like, oh, but
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: that's us, that's us.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Shut up, boy, that'll be twenty dollars. You know what
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I mean. I'm like, wait, that's.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Give me a little sprite.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Back.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: Been crazy?
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Did you get paying for it the right way?
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Damn, I got two thousand dollars for not the past, man,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: you don't do the past.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know you cried you a river.
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: That's all you got lord that Murphy two thousand dollars
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: for crime river.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got two thousand dollars for that, But you
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: played I played it with.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Song.
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: That's what everybody knows. That's when what you hear, that's
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: what you look for.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Before anybody they don't take care of the pastor called him.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: It was, it was, it was, it was yeah, But
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: you know, I didn't know the business at the time,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: and I was so hyped to get two thousand dollars.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do. Y'all think got.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Treated everybody to a fry at McDonald's. Everybody, you understand
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I was just so hyped. But
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: I didn't know the business then, so I don't got
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: no hard.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Feelings about Yeah.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can go check it out, go check out
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: the credit check the credits, yo, go check the cred.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: You know what you give it Chris Rock, Yes, go
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: check the credit show.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely I see it now. But yeah know
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: that you did that. That did a whole lot? Did
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: the whole USh? What is that?
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: What did you do with Usher?
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I know what? I don't think I'm sure that.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I mean said toured with us. I don't know.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: You gotta be specific.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what you do?
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: What I should hold up about in the church for
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: a second, we might have been on the same program.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't do anything. We didn't do you know. I
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: love to be usher Man. That's that's the homie.
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: Yes, come on, don't be with the mess right every
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: day something with these two niggas, Yo, every.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: Day I'm like, what are you talking about?
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's a lot to go because you
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: don't never know what they go.
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: You got to tell you congratulations. Let me get you
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: out of here. You're get in some trouble.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: Ye.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Last year Reunion tour was was last year. It was amazing.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I did All Things New tour in the spring and
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: then I did the Reunion tour in the fall winter.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: It was It was an amazing dude.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: That with Kirk and Clark's sisters Israel David and Tamla Man.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: That was incredible my first arena tour. Never did that before,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: so I'm like to hear the songs with all them people.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: It was just it was it was surreal. So we're
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: doing it again this year. I'm going out May June
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: on the only one night though tour.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Only one night though.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: That's my new single that's out only one night though,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: and the tour is going May June. I'm telling y'all,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I have uh a second win of some sort. I
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: don't have a second, third, or fourth whatever, but I
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: have this this momentum behind me right now, and I
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: am so excited to get out there and do this music.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: I got new music coming, book, coming podcasts, all this
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: stuff is coming, you know, off the hinges of the Grammy.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: And it's just a good season for me right now. Yes,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I want everybody to come. What he's great man record
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: only one real quick.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: Let me just say this, So what you did for
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: me growing up is to your music. You you didn't
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: make it.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: You like you.
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: You and Kirk Franklin was the first two men that
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: did not make listening in the gospel boring, yo, because
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: like me growing up with a deaconess as a mom,
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: and you know, my daddy was a little bit more lenient,
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: you know, but we had to go to church and
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: a little bit planning to what he was saying, like
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: we had to and I had to get the stiff
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: ponytail with the bali ball.
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: You know, my head wasn't really long, so when I moved.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: It didn't, you know.
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: So I'm like, I don't want to.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Go here, you know.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: And I had the little church socks and all that
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: the ones that Jermaine Free had on at the you know,
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: I will always do that, you know, like you when
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: when my mom would put you on, she would put
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: she will put you on just so we can get
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: excited to go to church.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: So that is really something for me.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: You and Kirk Franklin, y'all are only too My mom
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: be like all right, all right, and then she knew
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: how to play some other people.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: When we were going too much.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: And I was like, I don't want to listen to
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: much then, but but to get us in the mood
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: to go to church.
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: Trip and Kirk Franklin, that's what that's what I love
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: about you or.
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: The song you remember, No way, I can't even.
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: Then you're going to the aim, you know, not what strike.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Heart? That strike him down? Lord?
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Ladies, do you think people have my times about? But
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: do you think people have a problem with God?
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: No?
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: No, most peoplebody.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: I know. Yeah, my whole life has been God fearing.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: But I think that I think that you have to
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: show improve that through actions.
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. I think it's one thing
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: to say, oh, I believe in God, I love God.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: But do you really try to at least scribe to
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: move the way God would want you to move?
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: I think that's the difficult Okay.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: So it's not the it's not the it's not the
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: it's not the belief.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: It's the behavior.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think, yeah, sometimes it's the behavior of the messenger.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: What you mean.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Somebody will say I have an assignment, right like you said,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I have an assignment. And maybe your assignment is to
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: help Jess in her situation and her problems, and maybe
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: you do, but then you as a person. It's not
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: coming from the perspective of somebody giving the assignment. You
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: see what I'm saying. So let's say, if you're here
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: to help Jess in her life and whatever it may be.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: But you know, you cheating on your wife with Charlamagne.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: It's it's I look at it as that's example, but
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I just look at it as it's not gonna be
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the thing.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: But I look at it as you're giving the assignment,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: but the person giving the assignment is not living the
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: life that But that's what a little bit. That's what
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: makes me hard to see because you're giving the excitement,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: but you're not living, right.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: It's like, are you really giving it?
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Nobody around Jesus living?
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: That's all about to say, like what's your what's your
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: teacher living algebra? Like, you know what I'm saying, Can
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: somebody get can somebody give you information that will help you?
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: That's still flaws right, But sometimes it's like, it's that
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: information true. If you're out there selling crack every night,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: giving cracks, you you might be feeling and saving me,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: but then you're killing a hundred others. It's like, is
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: this coming from God or is that coming from a
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: negative evil the devil? You know what I'm saying. So
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: it's kind of got you hard to trust it, oparate
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: and trust it.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: But that's a decernment coming in exactly, So.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: You need the spirit as well. You know what I'm saying.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: That's what I think.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: So when I say how you feel about God, I
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: was going to ask how you feel about all of that?
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: You said, you're too growing for the Holy cost.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: But I think they be playing.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying. To some people.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: Some people do.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: They do the most, do most, most most.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: And seeing them harlem shake, I'm like making you harlem shaking.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: I cut it out, man, embrace.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I think most embrace the culture of church, but not
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: the Christ of them, you know, not Christ.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: So I think that's that's the issue as well.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: I think when you when you try to move without
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: the spirit of God, not just the word of God,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: but the spirit of God. This is this is where
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: personal relationship comes in. When you try to move or
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: live your life without the spirit of God.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: That is your God, that is your direction.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: The Holy goes to the Bible said, the Holy Spirit
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: comes to lead and to guide us into all truth.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of wisdom and truth that we
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: forfeit by not being led by the Spirit of God,
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: by being led by Google, by being led by other
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: things like that.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Even a therapist.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: I will add, the Bible says, add to your faith knowledge,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: but add to your faith. I think we let knowledge
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: replace our faith, we let counsel replace our faith. Every
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: new information you get as a believer should add to
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: your faith, and that comes through discernment and knowing the
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: spirit of God.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: So take the time to develop that relationship with God.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Like this sounds crazy, but Lord, all right, let me pray.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, whatever it is, take that
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: time to develop.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: It's your protection, you know what I mean, from the
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: wolves in sheep's clothing. It's your protection from wrong relationships
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: and dating the wrong person. God knows all, He knows
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: the person you're dealing with. He knows the thoughts and
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: the intents of the of the and the motives of
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: the people you're dealing with.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: So the Holy.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Spirit is a cheat cold to help us deal with life,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: to rate, to make the right business decisions, to make
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: the right decisions for our children, because this child is
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: different from this one.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I can't do that on my own.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: So when you allow the Holy Spirit to be elite
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: and your God, I mean, your.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Way will be prosperous.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: The Bible says so, and you'll be protected because everybody
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: is for themselves in this world. And there as much
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: evil in darkness as you know, as you said, even
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: in clergy collars.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Yo, and I'm tired of it.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: My wife and I are going to work on I
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: think a podcast or something called Flipping Tables, just to
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: kind of like not exposure aboudy nothing like that. But like, hey, y'all,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, this is choreography. Praise is
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: not it.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We want people to get
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: relationship and not religion.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: So if anything I'll leave y'all, it will be that.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Please please please take the prayer. Oh prayer okay, but
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: want to prayer?
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just saying, you ain't worried about we did
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: twenty four hours ago?
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: Who because cigarette outside?
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: You want to ask that, you want to ask where
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I was last night before you received my prayer?
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: You can pray for me in the corner.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: I guess that is important because we never saw presidents
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: or we never saw Obama or his family partying.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he had to be the president, you know
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, so it's very important as the leaders what
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: your image is to the people.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: But part of it to me, I don't know. Maybe
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: because I'm.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Always found God in the most unlikely places.
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: What you mean by that, because he's in the most
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: I'm just saying I understand what NV saying. But I
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: think sometimes you will miss a message from God because
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: you don't like the appearance or not just the messenger,
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: you know. Yeah, and sometimes that's what God is working through.
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: That's what they did with Jesus.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: They was like, who this guy, ain't the Savior. That's
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: not him.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: They missed the Savior of the world still to this
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: day because of how he was presented. So, but I
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: think you have to know him to see him and things.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: You can see him in the most unlikely places because
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: you know him well.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: If you know God and you, you'll recognize him and
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: everybody else exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I can see him in movies, comic but I can
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: see him on his wall, I can see anywhere because
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: I know him. So nothing from without can defile you.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Always was taught you can't go to clubs. When we
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: grew up, you couldn't go to nothing. We couldn't go
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: to movies, we couldn't go bowling. We couldn't play basketball
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: because it was just drinks.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: There is that and that. Whatever I say, what's.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: Wrong with bowman?
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: R Jesus shut out? I got it. I didn't know.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I just saw, but he shot.
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: That's paper.
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  Speaker 3: But I had to learn nothing from without can defile you.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: If it's in you, it's in you. If you ratchet,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: you don't need music to that right. You know what
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. It only exposes what's allready in you. So
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: we got to change and challenge what's in us.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Absolutely think I got one.
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: Last question because you made me think, let's do this
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: conversation me and just had when they had the New
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: Year's Eve thing and they did the swag surf in
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: the church.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Thank you'all for having me. Man appreciate it very much.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: Clowned out, tell them what you're throwing. Tell the pants
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: what you're throwing up here.
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: I didn't think it was anything wrong with it because
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: my whole thing was they doing it outside the church anyway,
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: So if you're having a and it wasn't like it
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: was a regular church service, it was new partying, you
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: know what I mean.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you think.
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: I thought that a lot of plans were very much
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: sorry about that, but you said all of them were
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: everybody was.
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: Clowns because that was the explicit version being played. Just
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: like I said, Charlamagne, I'm like, no, I didn't grow
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: up like that in church, Like it's just certain things
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: you don't play with.
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: You can swag and surf one day.
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: Even if he disagreed, I don't get Yeah, I still
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: think that it was clowned out.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: No, I agree with you, and that the lyrics was like, yeah,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: I could believe I was hearing.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: That all day, but yeah, I got patron on, my
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: girl got a bad behind me and a friend by right, But.
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: It was explicit.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I think that was a mistake in production or something
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: like that. I don't think that was intentional.
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: I think it's very much intentional because it was it
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: was the youth, a little youth, you faster and yes,
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: and was like, you know what, I'm gonna just play
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: this by mistake on purpose.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: But if it was a clean version, was the clean version,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: you'd have been okay with it. You can swag surfing church,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: but why does it have to be to the song?
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: We can swag surf to attied trumps. So we can
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: swag surf to the Kirk Franklin and the little babies
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: you on that. We can swag surf to something. We
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: can swag surf the silence we made it into another year.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Go to the club after you get out. God bless
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: you here.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: All right, do what you do.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: So how you feel about just the instrumental, that's cool, right.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: You can put whatever words on top of it you want,
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: but you like the lyrics and everything in there.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: I didn't have a problem with it, man, because.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: You know they're gonna listen to it anyway outside and.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: It's just a dirty version.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: In my mind, I'm like, whoever was in that church
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: that night is coming back, And to me that's more important.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: If she was in that church, she wouldn't come back.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I definitely wouldn't.
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: Even I don't write in the middle.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: I think the church I'm the wildest, craziest, I'm with everything,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: I swaged whatever.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: I still think that the church should have something a
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: sacred like.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: People they are they say met people.
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: They don't take that and they run with that. Though
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: I'm not with that.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Nobody, no nobody met. If Jesus met somebody where they were.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: He literally went to them, like when they come to church,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: the meeting.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: You where you are you? Club?
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: Is what you're saying.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: You say that, I'm saying they should be across the
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: street from the trip club something when they come out,
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: not inside club. I have been to a strip club,
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: I am yeah, yeah, you have.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I have been to club.
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: It was a birth What birthday was it? I'm forty
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: eight now.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: I just wanted it was one of them New Years
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: when I was like, forget the church, but I'm going.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I'm going there. I did not enjoy. I went one
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: time in my entire.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Life to pray over the girls. I didn't pray over them, No,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't pray. I prayed over myself more
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: than anything.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Mean, yeah, like I did.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: Huh why did you like it?
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Oh? Man? For real?
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: Your wife is no.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: No, No, I didn't enjoy. I didn't enjoy who I have
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: never talked about this in my life, I said, people
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: who know before I have.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't enjoy the performers.
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: What state was it?
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Florida?
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Should have went to Atlanta?
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: No Florida, you mean Florida crazy would do especially in Miami.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I didn't enjoy.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: I didn't enjoy the performers, and I was like, this
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: is why I'll be longer.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, booby Trap wasn't went back then.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: It's okay. Professionally, I think I think God was like,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: you got it out. You're good, the little private moment
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: that you straight. So this is what you wanted, did you?
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: I'm like, man, this is not what the four and
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: five there that night.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: God knew what he was doing. I never, I never
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: ever desired to go back. Ever. It was horrible, bro,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: it was horrible. Man. Can you pray for the stupid show?
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: First of all, thank y'all for being like cultural leaders.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: I appreciate what y'all do for for for the culture.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing what y'all do here. Thank you for
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: keeping it positive and you crazy.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Y'all all crazy.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: That's who we are, and we're not ashamed to who
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: we are. Let's pray for a minute. Thank you, Okay,
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Father God, I thank you for this opportunity to just
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: to pray over these blessed people in this show. I
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: pray now, God that you just continue to be our
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: guide and our lead. There are so many needs just
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: in this room and so many needs of people that
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: are listening. We can't solve every need. We don't know
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: every need, but you promised to supply every need. So
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: I pray from emotions to finances, to mental health, to
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: physical health to relational security.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: I pray that you just supply every need. Once we're
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: in scarcity.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: And we need, we get desperate and we do things
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: that's not even in our character. So may we never
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: be insecure, and may we never lack anything. And when
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: we never fear perfect love, cast out all fear. Fill
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: us with your perfect love today, and we won't fear anything.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: We won't fear the enemy, we won't feel the way
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: of the world, we won't fear anything because we are
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: loved by you. Let everybody know for a masurity that
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: they are loved, crazy and all baccilating in all not
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: whatever whatever state we're in, it does not disqualify us
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: from your everlasting love.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: So embrace us with that today.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: In the name of Jesus, Bless everyone, Blessed Charlemagne, bless Envy,
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: blessed Jess.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Bless this show. God.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: Let it be a beacon of light and a beacon
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: of hope to everyone who listens. Let me, put a
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: smile on people's face, put joy in their heart and
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: happiness in their day. I thank you for the opportunity
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: to pray over this, and I pray in Jesus' name
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: that it prospers in Jesus name.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: Amen.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Hey, I love y'all man so much. Man, wake that
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: ass up in the morning breakfast club.