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Ross Fulton Analysis LIVE: Ohio State vs. Texas Schematic Preview · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: Welcome to a very special live episode of Buckeyes Tomorrow
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Speaker 1: Morning for Friday, January tenth. I'm your host, tom Or
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Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl game against Texas that is today dot
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Speaker 1: twenty three days. What we are here to talk about
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Speaker 1: is the Cotton Bowl game against Texas. We're going to
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Speaker 1: be doing it with our buddy Ross Fulton, the ex's
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Speaker 1: So Ross, We're gonna be taking a lot of questions
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Speaker 1: from the audience. I put a question, I put a
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Speaker 1: call for questions on the Buckeye Huddle message board earlier
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Speaker 1: this afternoon, and if you guys have questions roman the chat,
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Speaker 1: we will get to as many of them as we can.
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Speaker 1: But I wanted to kind of just start with a
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Speaker 1: little bit more of a broad question, which was the
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Speaker 1: idea that you can sort of see that Ryan Day
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Speaker 1: has had a bigger influence on the passing game in
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Speaker 1: the postseason than you did in the regular season. I
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Speaker 1: wanted to get your thoughts on that. Is that something
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Speaker 1: that you see and if so, what does that look like?
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Speaker 1: What are you seeing that makes you think that either
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Speaker 1: is or isn't true.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something I see, I mean, and I think
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Speaker 2: we've we've discussed that a little bit, particularly compared to
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Speaker 2: the Michigan game. What it looks like is attacking coverages
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Speaker 2: vertically down the field, particularly zone coverages, you know, particularly
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Speaker 2: split safety coverages with three verticals attacking the seam, targeting
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Speaker 2: the middle of the field. You know, just even when
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Speaker 2: like talking to you know, like Manual Excel is a
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Speaker 2: good you know, Michigan follow on a blue sky elsewhere,
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Speaker 2: you know, like for people.
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Speaker 3: Who don't watch out of state all the time.
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Speaker 2: But he's obviously broken down Ohio State versus Michigan and
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Speaker 2: this year in previous seasons, like they were blown away
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Speaker 2: by how different the Ohio State passing game looked, particularly
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Speaker 2: against Michigan than in previous seasons. Like just a lot
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Speaker 2: of like short intermediate stuff, a lot of like mirrored routes.
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Speaker 2: And by that I mean like running the same concepts
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Speaker 2: of both sides of the field, like you know, outs
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Speaker 2: to each side, like on that Will Howard's first interception.
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Speaker 2: A lot of smash, which is another two kel a favorite,
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Speaker 2: and like not attacking again that like middle area of
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Speaker 2: the field between cover two or cover four safeties where
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Speaker 2: Ryan Day is really good at targeting those split safeties.
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Speaker 2: And you know, against both Tennessee and Oregon, they've basically
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Speaker 2: have forced them out of playing Cover two by just
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Speaker 2: hitting them with those seam routes, you know, I mean
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Speaker 2: to Mecca Buca for instance against Oregon, you know, right
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Speaker 2: over the safety, trying to carry him down the middle
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Speaker 2: of the field. So a lot of that and just
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Speaker 2: I think that that article, you know, use some statistical
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Speaker 2: percentages in terms of how much more will Howards thrown
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Speaker 2: the ball, you know, twenty yards or more in the air.
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Speaker 2: You just see a lot more of that again, just
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Speaker 2: attacking downfield and targeting coverages in a strategic way.
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Speaker 1: And then the other thing that's sort of been going
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Speaker 1: around that I wanted to just have you sort of
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Speaker 1: discuss with folks is the idea that the Run Game
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Speaker 1: may have come from Carlos Lachlan's time at Memphis and
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Speaker 1: some of the tweaks that have come in the Run
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Speaker 1: Game and some of the schemes that have been running
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Speaker 1: in the postseason may have sort of had, you know,
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Speaker 1: their origin there. I think that's another thing we may
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Speaker 1: have talked about on another show, but just it's one
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Speaker 1: of those things that I keep seeing floating around it
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Speaker 1: and wanted to just sort of let you run through
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Speaker 1: that as well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I listen to that, and I you know, to
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Speaker 2: their credit, they said a little bit of you know,
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Speaker 2: Charlie Day and always sunny to it, and I think
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Speaker 2: that's right, like right like. Conspiracy theories tend to be
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Speaker 2: a little overly complicated for a reason. The simplest answers
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Speaker 2: usually the right one. Yes, Chip Kelly and Ryan Day
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Speaker 2: have been principally zone run guys, but that doesn't mean
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Speaker 2: that they haven't run counter like if you go back
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Speaker 2: and watch your shows throughout the season, like we probably
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Speaker 2: should them run counter, you know, ten to fifteen different times.
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Speaker 2: Like we talked about super Counter four months ago in September,
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Speaker 2: right where they pulled three guys. So counter was a
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Speaker 2: part of the framework of the offense. It just wasn't
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Speaker 2: like the base run play. But after the Michigan game, again, like,
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Speaker 2: go back and listen to our show, and I said,
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Speaker 2: the thing they blocked the best against Michigan was counter
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Speaker 2: with this current offensive line configuration, and so again like
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Speaker 2: those guys are you know, I don't know people think
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Speaker 2: coaches are really stubborn. I guess I don't think they're
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Speaker 2: stubvern as probably people give them like they watched the
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Speaker 2: film too, and they probably saw, like we say, the
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Speaker 2: one thing we wal pretty decently against Michigan in the
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Speaker 2: run game was counter.
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Speaker 3: Why don't we run that more?
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Speaker 2: And then obviously, like once you start having success, that
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Speaker 2: breeds upon itself and you're gonna keep calling it. So
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Speaker 2: I don't think you need to like create, like go
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Speaker 2: through the six degrees of separation. You know, Ryan Day,
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Speaker 2: like he coached with Steve Dazio at Boston College when
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Speaker 2: he's office coordinated there. They ran a lot of gap scheme,
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Speaker 2: So I think it's just more like this is what
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Speaker 2: we think our team can do, well, we're gonna pair
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Speaker 2: it together. And like you know, the play action concepts
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Speaker 2: they talked about there, like the second touchdown to Jeremiah
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Speaker 2: Smith AND's Oregon. Like again, that's from Ryan Day's playbook
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Speaker 2: for a long time, right, Like we talked about that.
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Speaker 2: James light On X posted the screenshot of the play
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Speaker 2: from Day's playbooks, so like Day likes using heavy play
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Speaker 2: action passes, pull in at center or guard, so I
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Speaker 2: think it all And like that slide our po concept
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Speaker 2: off of counter, like they ran that a bunch of
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Speaker 2: Morvan Hererison last year when they got to the point
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Speaker 2: where teams were trying to double him and they had
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Speaker 2: to come up with ways to get him the ball
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Speaker 2: a different way. So again, I just don't think like
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Speaker 2: it very well. Could be the case that Carlos Laughlin
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Speaker 2: was like, I think we should run counter more, but
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Speaker 2: I'm sure he had, you know, pretty wide agreement of
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Speaker 2: the Ohio State staff about that, and like everything they're
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Speaker 2: running is in the Ohio State playbook and I've seen
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Speaker 2: it before the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: So now that you're three games into the playoff, it
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Speaker 1: feels like this is the point where you've seen Ohio
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Speaker 1: State do a bunch of different stuff and it is
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Speaker 1: pretty much all worked, especially in offense. I mean, they
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Speaker 1: have had two really explosive games on offense. So now
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Speaker 1: you get to the point where, Okay, what do you
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Speaker 1: you know, what's the answer to this? Because you've seen
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Speaker 1: lots of stuff that hasn't worked against the Ohio State defense.
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Speaker 1: So how do you get Ohios date? How do you
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Speaker 1: control Ohio State in the passing game? And Texas seems
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Speaker 1: like and you can correct me on anything that I'm
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Speaker 1: wrong on here, but just talking to folks around here,
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Speaker 1: it feels like Texas is maybe a little more zone
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Speaker 1: heavy than some of the teams at Ohio State has
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Speaker 1: played so far, and Texas may be a little more
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Speaker 1: inclined to keep those safeties back and try and make
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Speaker 1: you be a little more methodical going down the field.
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Speaker 1: Is that sort of what you're expecting from Texas? And
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Speaker 1: if so, what's the answer from Ohio State? What do
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Speaker 1: they have to change to sort of go after that?
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Speaker 1: You know, we talk about man beaters and zone beaters
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Speaker 1: all the time. Like, what kind of concepts are you
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Speaker 1: looking for against Texas?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I agree with the first part. Texas a
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Speaker 2: very zone heavy team. I think Cody Alexander said they
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Speaker 2: run zone coverages like eighty percent of the time. I
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Speaker 2: would I quibble though, a little bit with saying they
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Speaker 2: like keep their safeties back. I'd say their principal coverage
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Speaker 2: is Cover three. They really like to bring one of
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Speaker 2: the safeties into the box. They'll keep the corners deep
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Speaker 2: and they'll cap routes that way, and they will mix
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Speaker 2: in Cover four like that's probably their second most used coverage.
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Speaker 2: So like they they'll switch between middle of the field
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Speaker 2: clothes and middlefield open I I think they will try
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Speaker 2: to keep the ball in front of them and try
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Speaker 2: to mix coverages.
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Speaker 3: And try to.
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Speaker 2: Keep you know, Will Howard off balance in terms of guessing,
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Speaker 2: They're not a team that blitzes a lot. They will
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Speaker 2: use some simulated pressures on third down, but they really
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Speaker 2: like to.
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Speaker 3: Play it pretty straight up.
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Speaker 2: They will move that they'll jump between an odd and
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Speaker 2: even front and different types of front, so they'll they'll
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Speaker 2: change things up that way. But I mean this gets
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Speaker 2: back to like my Ryan Day discussion, Like Texas plays
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Speaker 2: a lot of Cover three like Ryan Day choose up
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Speaker 2: Cover three like historically, like you know, in Tennessee, after
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Speaker 2: they got forced out of trying to copy Michigan's playbook,
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Speaker 2: tried to run a bunch of Cover three and we
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Speaker 2: showed like, oh, I say, just kept running that sale
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Speaker 2: concept right where you run one guy vertical, the second
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Speaker 2: one is a deep out, and then you have the
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Speaker 2: flat route, so you get like three levels against that
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Speaker 2: Cover three corner. So I I mean, I'm not saying
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Speaker 2: that they can't stick with what they've done. I'm sure
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Speaker 2: their number one goal is to limit explosives, and I
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Speaker 2: I'm sure to do that, particularly like in Cover three
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Speaker 2: and Cover four, they'll try to play with soft corner coverage,
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Speaker 2: and like, I guess the first obviously answer to that
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Speaker 2: is like then you start throwing those like RPO hitches
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Speaker 2: we talked about, or just you know, quick out slants
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Speaker 2: you again, like, don't don't stop from using the pass
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Speaker 2: game to set up everything else, right, like just you know,
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Speaker 2: work what's there, and you know, I mean the first
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Speaker 2: playoh Igh State hit with Jerai Smith was a slide RPO,
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Speaker 2: which was you know, a pass behind the line of scrimmage,
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Speaker 2: So it doesn't all need to be vertical shots.
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Speaker 3: You just need to keep that layering to the passing game.
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Speaker 1: How much of Ohio State's success is going to hinge
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Speaker 1: on the offensive line, because it feels like, having watched
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Speaker 1: a few games from Texas, especially their last three games
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Speaker 1: in particular, it feels like, I mean, it's it feels
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Speaker 1: like it's a good defense. You've probably just got a
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Speaker 1: Thorpe Award winner in the secondary, and you know the
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Speaker 1: linebackers are very good. But it feels like so much
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Speaker 1: for that defense starts up front with that defensive line.
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Speaker 1: They've got a couple of real good defensive tackles, They've
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Speaker 1: got some dangerous players coming off the edge. How much
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Speaker 1: of the Ohio States success on offense, to you, is
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Speaker 1: going to boil down to just and the offensive line
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Speaker 1: create some kind of room in the run game, and
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Speaker 1: maybe perhaps more more important, give Will Howard enough time
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Speaker 1: to find those guys downfield.
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Speaker 2: I just think you don't want to let it come
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Speaker 2: down to that, right. I think that's the goal is
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Speaker 2: to stretch the field horizontally and not make it so
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Speaker 2: offensive line dependent. I mean, it's hard, like I think
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Speaker 2: Ohio State's offensive line has done a pretty good job
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Speaker 2: in pass protection all year long, even if it's Michigan.
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Speaker 3: I just think that it's so.
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Speaker 2: And you know they they do Chip Kelly, and they
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Speaker 2: do a good job like changing up pass protection concepts.
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Speaker 2: You know, they'll they'll change the launch point, they'll change
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Speaker 2: they'll pull a guard, they'll use six an protections, and
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Speaker 2: you know, I think it's you go back again to
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Speaker 2: a heavy dose of counter. I don't Texas has faced
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Speaker 2: very little counter this year. Actually a lot of what
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Speaker 2: they do is want to clog up the interior. As
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Speaker 2: we talked about this earlier this week. One benefit of
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Speaker 2: running counter and like in addition to it, it makes
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Speaker 2: it simpler on the offensive line, It handles the offerense.
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Speaker 2: It also, as we said, like gives Chre von Henderson
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Speaker 2: and quinnch On Junkins the ability to bounce it outside
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Speaker 2: to open grass even if things aren't blocked up perfectly.
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Speaker 2: But again, like I just think, I think you come
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Speaker 2: out if you come out throwing RPOs in quick game,
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Speaker 2: and then that that sort of sets up everything else
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Speaker 2: and takes the pressure off the offensive line.
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Speaker 1: Are is there going to be any room for them
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Speaker 1: to run between the tackles. I mean, I know you
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Speaker 1: can't just abandon that completely, but is that something you know,
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Speaker 1: compared to Michigan, for example, they they ran the ball
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Speaker 1: inside a decent amount of gains Michion, not as much
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Speaker 1: as people probably think they did retro you know, retrospect actively.
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Speaker 1: In retrospectively they ran the ball between the tackles fifty
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Speaker 1: times and gained two yards total. But you know, they
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Speaker 1: did They did do it some and it didn't work
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Speaker 1: particularly well. Are they going to be able to get
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Speaker 1: anything inside or is it really going to have to
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Speaker 1: be start working outside, spread the field in the past game,
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Speaker 1: work side to side, and then sort of stretch, you know,
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Speaker 1: stretch things downfield and then maybe the past game opens
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Speaker 1: up some stuff inside later.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's how I prefer them to do it,
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Speaker 2: because I think that place of their strengths. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: I mean they'll run the ball, like I consider running
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Speaker 2: countertrade between the tackles also, I mean it's off tackle,
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Speaker 2: but like so it's just a variation of running, you know,
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Speaker 2: attacking the B and C gap. Yeah, I think they're
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Speaker 2: going to mix a match. I mean, they'll still mix
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Speaker 2: in some inside zone they've done it every game. You know,
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Speaker 2: I don't Again, I don't want to sound like dismissive.
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Speaker 2: Texas has a very good defensive front, but so did Oregon,
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Speaker 2: like so did Tennessee. So it's Michigan obviously, but so
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Speaker 2: did Penn State, like Ohiai's played a lot of good
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Speaker 2: defensive lines. I mean, I think I would put Derek
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Speaker 2: Harmon up. You know, he's a projected first round pick,
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Speaker 2: and Ohio State did a good job against him in
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Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl, So I think, yes, you just pick
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Speaker 2: your spots right and you mix it together with RPOs
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Speaker 2: so you're not you know, you're taking advantage of opportunities
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Speaker 2: when they're there, and I do.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I just think passing.
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Speaker 2: To set up the run for High State works better
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Speaker 2: because I just think that's where their strengths lie, and
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Speaker 2: that's they've been playing so well. And like, you know,
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Speaker 2: you want to keep the ball rolling right, and like
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Speaker 2: the thing that he gets confidence, begets confidence. So like
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Speaker 2: trying to jump out early again, we'll like keep the
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Speaker 2: keep the momentum going. But I but you obviously certainly
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Speaker 2: can't totally abandon the run. And I think they'll pick
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Speaker 2: and choose their spots.
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Speaker 1: All right before we move on to the Ohio State
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Speaker 1: defense and its matchup against Texas. Will ask everyone who's
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Speaker 1: you're you know, if you're watching this and you're a
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Speaker 1: Texas fan, like, we'd love to have your your input
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Speaker 1: these shows through the magical YouTube algorithm. So all right
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Speaker 1: onto the Ohio State defense. And this to me, you know,
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Speaker 1: I think the Texas defense is one of the best
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Speaker 1: in the nation. And as you mentioned, Ohio State has
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Speaker 1: played a number of good defenses, so this is not
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Speaker 1: going to be a massive jump in uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: in quality of opponent for the Ohio State offense. The
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Speaker 1: Texas defense feels like if you look at the if
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Speaker 1: you line up the four the four units Ohio State offense,
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Speaker 1: Ohio State defense, Texas offense, Texas defense, the Texas defense,
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Speaker 1: Texas offense feels like it might be it's probably fourth
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Speaker 1: on that list for me, and you know, not that
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Speaker 1: they're bad, but this is sort of the same similar
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Speaker 1: conversation what we talked about with Oregon, where it was
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Speaker 1: like you've got three really good units and then the
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Speaker 1: fourth one is kind of like it's it's good, but
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Speaker 1: it's not elite elite? Is that sort of how you
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Speaker 1: see I mean, you may be looking at things at a
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Speaker 1: little more granular level in terms of like individual matchups,
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Speaker 1: but you know, just if you're just looking at the
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Speaker 1: four units there, is that how you sort of see
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Speaker 1: Texas that the offense might be just a little bit
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Speaker 1: below the other three units on the field tomorrow night.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
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Speaker 2: I mean, per FBI, I think the Texas offense is
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Speaker 2: the weakest offense or defensive unit left among the last
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Speaker 2: four teams.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I would agree.
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Speaker 2: I think that again, like that's where Ohio State's biggest
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Speaker 2: mismatches should be, at least as their defense versus the
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Speaker 2: Texas offense.
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Speaker 1: So when you look at the Texas offense, obviously immensely
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Speaker 1: talented left tackle Calvin Banks, potential future first round pick.
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Speaker 1: But he's been banged up. He said ankel thing he
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Speaker 1: suffered another he got another lower body injury, might have
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Speaker 1: been the ankle as well in the Peach Bowl. Cameron Williams,
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Speaker 1: the right tackle, he missed the last game and a half.
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Speaker 1: He's watching him against Georgia in the SEC Championship game.
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Speaker 1: I have some concerns about how he'll hold up against
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Speaker 1: Jack Sawyer, and they talked on that broadcast. But the
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Speaker 1: fact that he's picked up. He was like fourteen penalties
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Speaker 1: through thirteen games. That's not great as a tackle, and
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Speaker 1: I think the lines a little bit of a concern.
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Speaker 1: The center has been a little bit banged up, although
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Speaker 1: he was back, and I mean it's not a bad
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Speaker 1: offensive line. They're just not one hundred percent right now.
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Speaker 1: And they really haven't been able to run the ball
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Speaker 1: at all against good defenses. They were twenty eight for
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Speaker 1: thirty one against Georgia. I think they ran thirty something
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Speaker 1: times for like fifty yards against Arizona State. They ran
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Speaker 1: wild against Clemson, but Clemson is ninety ninth in the
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Speaker 1: country against in yards per carry allowed. So how is
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Speaker 1: Texas going to be able to run the ball against
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Speaker 1: Ohios date because Ohio Sate defense is like second in
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Speaker 1: the country in yards per carry allowed.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just to be frank, I think
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Speaker 2: there's a bad matchup for Texas offense. Like they really
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Speaker 2: struggle with three high safeties schemes, Like if you go
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Speaker 2: back to the Arkansas game this year or previous seasons
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Speaker 2: and like they've their scheme is based out of wide zone,
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Speaker 2: and I mean Ohio State it's basically just like shut
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Speaker 2: down teams running outside zone all year long. Like even
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Speaker 2: the first organ game, Ohio State shut them down running
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Speaker 2: outside zone. They had to go to other things, and
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Speaker 2: obviously they shut it down against Oregon in the Rose Bowl.
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Speaker 3: I think that.
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Speaker 2: In terms of like I honestly think it's I don't
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Speaker 2: think Texa's gonna be able to run the ball very well.
17:33
Speaker 3: Like I just don't.
17:34
Speaker 2: I think that it's gonna all come down to, like
17:37
Speaker 2: can they do something like the screen games. Can they
17:42
Speaker 2: do stuff with condensed formations? Uh to get Ohio State
17:46
Speaker 2: out of like the three high safeties and potentially find
17:50
Speaker 2: some explosive plays. You know, I just think it's gonna
17:54
Speaker 2: take I mean I'm not saying they won't run the ball.
17:58
Speaker 2: I'm just I don't think it's going to be consistently
17:59
Speaker 2: affective because I just think that again, Ohio State's defensive tackles,
18:04
Speaker 2: you know, Tyler Williams in particular, is going to be
18:06
Speaker 2: able to control the line of scrimmage.
18:09
Speaker 1: When you talk about a Steve Sarkisian offense, a lot
18:11
Speaker 1: of times there's all to talk about the eye candy beforehand,
18:14
Speaker 1: and you're moving guys around and using shifts in motion
18:16
Speaker 1: to create advantageous matchups. Earlier in the year, I know
18:20
Speaker 1: you and I talked a bunch about the fact that Oregon,
18:22
Speaker 1: for example, in that first game, was able to use
18:24
Speaker 1: some motion to create, you know, put Ohio State in
18:27
Speaker 1: situations where every you know, Ohio State knew what they
18:30
Speaker 1: were going to do, and this guy had, this guy
18:32
Speaker 1: in the slot, had whoever was in the slot. So
18:35
Speaker 1: if Oregon knew that too, they could create an advantageous matchup.
18:39
Speaker 1: And it feels like they have sort of got gotten
18:41
Speaker 1: away from some of that and in a good way.
18:44
Speaker 1: Ohio State is not necessarily falling into some of those
18:47
Speaker 1: same traps. Is that something that you see Sarkisian potentially
18:51
Speaker 1: being able to use some of those shifts in motion
18:54
Speaker 1: in the way that he loves to to create bad
18:56
Speaker 1: matchups for Ohio State. Or is that something that is
18:59
Speaker 1: less of a concern and than it was earlier in
19:00
Speaker 1: the year.
19:02
Speaker 3: I think less of a concern.
19:03
Speaker 2: I mean, as we talked about like on on earlier
19:06
Speaker 2: this week, you know from Oregon, I could see them
19:09
Speaker 2: trying to against the particularly against the three high concepts
19:14
Speaker 2: like run coverage off and then try to hit you know,
19:17
Speaker 2: helm on like drag routes or crosses, use like leak concepts,
19:23
Speaker 2: try to feature him. I just think it's more like,
19:27
Speaker 2: you know, how many ways can they fake different types
19:31
Speaker 2: of screens, like fake screens and try to throw explosives,
19:35
Speaker 2: because like that makes things easier on Quinn yewrs, like
19:38
Speaker 2: when he doesn't have to diagnose coverage and can just
19:41
Speaker 2: know where he's.
19:41
Speaker 3: Going with the football.
19:43
Speaker 2: He obviously has has a good arm for that, particularly
19:46
Speaker 2: like on intermediate throws.
19:48
Speaker 3: I think it's sort of like emptying the bag. You know.
19:52
Speaker 2: Maybe I could see them like back to your run game,
19:55
Speaker 2: as I said, like use condensed formations, try to run duo,
19:59
Speaker 2: try to like go straight downhill, but even that, like
20:03
Speaker 2: you know, that still involves like Texas's wide receivers having
20:06
Speaker 2: to block High State safeties and which is like I
20:09
Speaker 2: think of a win for High States. So I think
20:12
Speaker 2: it's just a lot of like trying to generate explosives
20:16
Speaker 2: off of play action in the screen game.
20:20
Speaker 1: And there was a long thread about quin yours I
20:22
Speaker 1: saw on Twitter earlier in the week, and I know
20:25
Speaker 1: you you and I have talked about it a little bit,
20:27
Speaker 1: but just I mean, so just share some of those
20:30
Speaker 1: concerns I think that people have in terms of yours
20:34
Speaker 1: being able to what yours is able to do well
20:36
Speaker 1: and what yours isn't able to do well, and how
20:39
Speaker 1: the Ohio State defense might be able to get him
20:41
Speaker 1: in some bad spots.
20:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, i'd basically just like, to paraphrase Max
20:46
Speaker 2: Tiscano who put the thread together and others, I mean
20:50
Speaker 2: to me like yours, Like, let's just start with the arm,
20:53
Speaker 2: like he's obviously got the quick release. He throws a
20:56
Speaker 2: good ball like twenty yards and in I do not
20:59
Speaker 2: like how he there as a deep ball, It floats,
21:02
Speaker 2: it can lead to I think it's going to create
21:04
Speaker 2: opportunities for interceptions because he hangs it out there against
21:08
Speaker 2: high of States secondary. I think, you know, Max, I
21:12
Speaker 2: think broke down and like showed that like work Stark
21:17
Speaker 2: can can make things generate offense in a way that
21:22
Speaker 2: again like gives him like the easy read off of
21:26
Speaker 2: pre snap and like his first reads there, I think
21:29
Speaker 2: he's you know, and he's throwing confidently, then that's where
21:33
Speaker 2: he can be successful. I think that as Max showed,
21:36
Speaker 2: like he tends to get bogged down when then he
21:40
Speaker 2: has to pick apart coverage post snap and secondary reads.
21:45
Speaker 2: To me, he looks like someone who's who's willing to
21:47
Speaker 2: bail the pocket too early at times and he it.
21:52
Speaker 2: And also like they really like to use you know,
21:55
Speaker 2: they're they like to run wide zone from the pistol
21:59
Speaker 2: or understand, and so they like to use like play
22:03
Speaker 2: action where the quarterback turns his back to the defense
22:06
Speaker 2: up front. That has the benefit of again like you're
22:10
Speaker 2: hiding the ball, so it like helps sell the play action.
22:13
Speaker 2: But like when yours does that and then like turns
22:16
Speaker 2: his head around, like a lot of times he's not prepared,
22:19
Speaker 2: and you can really create negative plays with that, Like
22:21
Speaker 2: Arizona State did that against them, Georgia did against him
22:24
Speaker 2: created like some pretty significant sacks because like he's not
22:28
Speaker 2: ready to throw hot off of that. So I think
22:31
Speaker 2: it's like for a state, it's you know, Cody Alexander.
22:35
Speaker 2: Like in previewing the game, I said that Ohio State
22:37
Speaker 2: has I believe, like the seventh modest coverage variety among
22:41
Speaker 2: the p four, and I think it's going to be
22:44
Speaker 2: a lot of that, like different looks showing like the
22:47
Speaker 2: three high Tampa and dropping to Cover three, you know,
22:50
Speaker 2: playing cover one off of it Cover four, different variations
22:54
Speaker 2: like just keeping the picture muddy for yours.
22:58
Speaker 1: And one way that that's sort of shown up is
23:01
Speaker 1: in the Rose Bowl. I was on the way back
23:03
Speaker 1: from the press conference today with Steve Starkesian and Ryan
23:06
Speaker 1: Ryan Day. I was talking to a couple other other
23:08
Speaker 1: Ohio State writers and they were talking about some PFF
23:11
Speaker 1: stats about time to throw and time to throw as
23:14
Speaker 1: an offense. Seems like it should be a good thing
23:17
Speaker 1: because it's you know, oh, you've got plenty of time
23:19
Speaker 1: in the pocket. Time to throw is really you know,
23:22
Speaker 1: you're taking out your sacks, you're taking out you know,
23:24
Speaker 1: your scrambles. It's when you're sitting back in the pocket.
23:27
Speaker 1: How long does it take you to get the ball out,
23:29
Speaker 1: And there was basically an increase of like a second
23:32
Speaker 1: almost it was something like two point six seconds to
23:35
Speaker 1: like three point six seconds for Dylan Gabriel from the
23:38
Speaker 1: first game to the second game for Oregon, where that
23:41
Speaker 1: basically means instead of being like Okay, I get the ball, boom,
23:44
Speaker 1: it's out, it's I get the ball, that guy's not
23:47
Speaker 1: open or I'm not seeing what I'm thinking I'm seeing.
23:50
Speaker 1: And then I got to think, and I got to
23:51
Speaker 1: take a minute the process when you're talking about yours,
23:54
Speaker 1: not that not necessarily being a strength in the pocket
23:58
Speaker 1: that feels like that might be something to keep an
24:01
Speaker 1: eye on on Friday night. Yep.
24:03
Speaker 2: And that's that's the difference between the offense or the
24:05
Speaker 2: defense between the first organ game and after it. It's
24:09
Speaker 2: just like it just was so much more predictable before
24:12
Speaker 2: in terms of pre stamp alignment with what the offense
24:15
Speaker 2: is getting. And yeah, I agree, and like Dylan gave
24:18
Speaker 2: Rodd to hold the ball, that leads the sacks right
24:20
Speaker 2: like coverage leads to pressure and vice versa, and so
24:24
Speaker 2: it you know, creates opportunities with out blitzing to create
24:27
Speaker 2: negative plays just because your muddy in the picture, you know,
24:32
Speaker 2: like I Texas will will, They'll take and they want
24:35
Speaker 2: to take shots down field right Like they like to
24:37
Speaker 2: run like double posts with deep overs or corner routes,
24:42
Speaker 2: but those take time, and like if you close the
24:43
Speaker 2: middle of the field to them and and it's not
24:46
Speaker 2: readily apparent like that, that can create negative plays.
24:51
Speaker 1: All right, so we've got now we're about twenty five
24:54
Speaker 1: minutes in the show. We'll probably go another fifteen ish minutes,
24:57
Speaker 1: give or take, and depending on how long each of
25:00
Speaker 1: our voices hold up. We're both been traveling and have
25:03
Speaker 1: come down with various maladies while while crisscrossing the country.
25:08
Speaker 1: Let's you have a bunch of good questions here. I'm
25:10
Speaker 1: going to start with the one from our message board.
25:13
Speaker 3: At bucke huddle dot com.
25:14
Speaker 1: It's from Army Buck. He says, what offensive protection scheme changes,
25:17
Speaker 1: if any, are necessarily to neutralize the Texas pass brush
25:21
Speaker 1: and keep Will Howard Clay.
25:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think there.
25:24
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think changes are necessary because I
25:28
Speaker 2: think they've been doing a good job with it. You know,
25:30
Speaker 2: you're just as I said, like mixing up the protection
25:33
Speaker 2: schemes mixing up like quick game, you know, get the
25:36
Speaker 2: ball out, you know, mixing those like sort of heavy
25:40
Speaker 2: six man pass protections where you're pulling a guard or
25:43
Speaker 2: at the center, you know, moving the pocket, the launch points,
25:46
Speaker 2: a bootleg, some that like you know, half rolls, you know.
25:51
Speaker 2: I mean, Donoa Jackson has done a really good job
25:54
Speaker 2: at left tackle, as.
25:56
Speaker 3: We've just said.
25:56
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's been a better left tackle
25:58
Speaker 2: than he ever was a left guard. And so he's
26:01
Speaker 2: playing with confidence, he's playing with leadership.
26:03
Speaker 3: You know.
26:04
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's going to be perfect, but I
26:06
Speaker 2: think Will Howard does a pretty good job of getting
26:09
Speaker 2: the ball out and avoiding pressure as well.
26:12
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the next one, and let's
26:15
Speaker 1: go to here's one from Warpug, says Ross rocks Strong.
26:21
Speaker 1: So how did you learn so much about football?
26:25
Speaker 3: My dad? No, I don't know.
26:27
Speaker 2: I just yes, I grew up playing the sport and
26:30
Speaker 2: always loved the x's and o's of it, and it
26:33
Speaker 2: just was always something I was drawn to. And just
26:36
Speaker 2: you know, it's like anything else, you just keep something
26:39
Speaker 2: you're interested in, you keep learning about it and being
26:43
Speaker 2: I guess somewhat autodidactic. Over time as an adult, at
26:46
Speaker 2: least in terms of continue to teach myself. But you know,
26:49
Speaker 2: the beauty of for all its faults, the social media
26:53
Speaker 2: has had the great benefit of, like I name drop
26:56
Speaker 2: all these people all the time, right, So I learned
26:58
Speaker 2: a ton from people on x and you know, whether
27:02
Speaker 2: it's Cody, Alexander Space, Cody, Chris Brown, you know, Cameron
27:06
Speaker 2: Sore and Max et cetera. Like, there's tons of great
27:09
Speaker 2: people to follow and people putting videos together who know
27:14
Speaker 2: a ton about football, and so you just kind of,
27:17
Speaker 2: you know, once you just can kind of see it
27:18
Speaker 2: and then you just kind of keep yourself up on it.
27:22
Speaker 1: I'm going to add one name to that list, Dan Casey.
27:24
Speaker 1: He doesn't necessarily do as much breakdown stuff. He just
27:28
Speaker 1: he constantly puts up plays that are you know, here's
27:30
Speaker 1: a play from nineteen ninety two Air Force and I'm like,
27:33
Speaker 1: this is the coolest thing I've ever seen. How does
27:36
Speaker 1: how is this not like a bass play for everyone?
27:38
Speaker 2: Now?
27:39
Speaker 1: So he's another good follow as well.
27:42
Speaker 3: Here's one.
27:42
Speaker 1: How does Texas plan to stop Jeremiah Smith? And what
27:45
Speaker 1: is the best way to counter I think we've covered
27:47
Speaker 1: the second half of this one.
27:48
Speaker 3: Already.
27:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so well, I mean obvious. The obvious answer
27:54
Speaker 2: is like what Michigan did right, and you run that
27:57
Speaker 2: Zeus concept. That's pretty nuanced though, Like I mean, I
28:02
Speaker 2: give you know, some of my Michigan like Colin manuaccel
28:06
Speaker 2: a hard time, like they don't appreciate the new out
28:08
Speaker 2: nuanced Michigan's coverages compared to a lot of college football
28:11
Speaker 2: teams that are they're basically running, you know, like a
28:14
Speaker 2: Vic Fangio system, but high stats doing such a better job.
28:18
Speaker 2: Like even in that game, they are opportunities. They just
28:20
Speaker 2: did take advantage of them. Like, hey, you do what
28:23
Speaker 2: Ohio State did on the first play against Oregon, which
28:25
Speaker 2: is you you put Jeremiah Smith by himself to one side,
28:29
Speaker 2: and if the team wants to role coverage to them,
28:31
Speaker 2: you put four wide receivers opposite and it just makes
28:35
Speaker 2: it hard to do both. And the other thing is
28:37
Speaker 2: they they do what they're doing, Like you put him
28:39
Speaker 2: in the slot like they do in the second touchdown,
28:42
Speaker 2: You motion him, you move you know, you you set
28:46
Speaker 2: him up like he's outside receiver. Then you move Hi
28:47
Speaker 2: Mecha Buka to the outside receiver. You run him on
28:51
Speaker 2: those shallow crosses or those slide concepts. So I think
28:54
Speaker 2: you both you you put an effort into making sure
28:59
Speaker 2: that he he's not in the same place for the defense,
29:02
Speaker 2: but also you do then take advantage of it to
29:05
Speaker 2: open up other things. And obviously, like as we talked about,
29:08
Speaker 2: when he's mashed up in single coverage, Like again, Texas
29:11
Speaker 2: probably won't play a lot of man, but when you're
29:14
Speaker 2: playing cover three and if you run for verts against
29:16
Speaker 2: cover three, it becomes man. You still have that middle
29:20
Speaker 2: of the field. Safety isn't going to get over there,
29:22
Speaker 2: so you take advantage of situations where you can.
29:26
Speaker 1: All right, now, this is one of these where it's
29:28
Speaker 1: like this is probably a little bit of an oversimplification,
29:31
Speaker 1: but having watched a bunch of both of these teams,
29:35
Speaker 1: I kind of see some of the I mean, there's
29:37
Speaker 1: some similarities in some big differences, but Legacy's acceays Texas
29:41
Speaker 1: is basically just a tad bit better Tennessee.
29:45
Speaker 2: So like like you can go by the statistical route
29:48
Speaker 2: where like, yes, Texas is better, and I grew like
29:51
Speaker 2: they are also like Tennessee, Texas is a better defensive
29:56
Speaker 2: teams by fan statistics than they are an offensive team.
30:01
Speaker 2: The offenses are different, as you said, like Tech Tennessee
30:05
Speaker 2: is like its own unique.
30:06
Speaker 3: Thing, right and like yes, they both want to throw reliefs.
30:11
Speaker 2: Texas offensively, I guess she'd say is more like Oregan,
30:14
Speaker 2: but even in some ways more they're just like very
30:17
Speaker 2: kind of pro style from the spread, you know, like
30:20
Speaker 2: pistol wide zone, inside zone, as I said, like Sarks
30:23
Speaker 2: use a ton of play action, a ton of screen game.
30:26
Speaker 3: So that's that's really what you kind of have to
30:28
Speaker 3: be prepared for.
30:31
Speaker 1: All right, And this next one, we talked about this earlier,
30:34
Speaker 1: so I'm going to kind of refer to the to
30:36
Speaker 1: the earlier portion of this show about ten maybe not
30:40
Speaker 1: even ten minutes and eight ten minutes in kW says.
30:43
Speaker 1: Some analysts tried to say, we're running Mike Norvell's offense
30:45
Speaker 1: from Memphis. Think just some of the run scheme, just
30:47
Speaker 1: sim little bit the OVERALLLL offenses, not Norvell's. I think
30:51
Speaker 1: the TLDR is you would probably agree with that statement.
30:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would.
30:55
Speaker 2: Just to me, like the offense right now is like
30:59
Speaker 2: Ryan Days passing game combined with Chip Kelly's run game,
31:02
Speaker 2: plus like Chip's use of like packaging things together.
31:06
Speaker 3: Different formations.
31:07
Speaker 2: Like the other thing Ohnestly's doing I think we've talked
31:10
Speaker 2: about before is like they're using a much higher percentage
31:13
Speaker 2: of two tight ends than they've used during the season.
31:16
Speaker 2: Even again, like doing so to create they're trying to
31:21
Speaker 2: force defenses into coverage choices to get more single hot
31:25
Speaker 2: coverage than to be able to move like Jeremi Smith around.
31:28
Speaker 2: They use him Like another thing you can do back
31:30
Speaker 2: to the previous question, is like you bring like you
31:33
Speaker 2: see them put Jeremi Smith a lot, like in those
31:35
Speaker 2: condensed formations, you can't press someone off the line of
31:39
Speaker 2: scriptmage when they're like in tight like that.
31:41
Speaker 3: So they're just creating like free releases for him.
31:44
Speaker 2: So it's it's to me, like again, I see all
31:47
Speaker 2: the elements that I've seen from Ryan Day offenses in
31:51
Speaker 2: the past, just emphasizing different things, like every college team
31:55
Speaker 2: runs counter, like it's this is like more more general statement,
32:00
Speaker 2: but maybe putting Tennessee aside, Like there's just not that
32:04
Speaker 2: much uniqueness out there anymore. Like everyone runs you know,
32:10
Speaker 2: inside down, outside down power counter, like everyone runs white
32:13
Speaker 2: cross sale, you know, for verts, et cetera. So like
32:15
Speaker 2: it's just how you what you emphasize and how you
32:18
Speaker 2: package him.
32:20
Speaker 1: All right, here's one from Warpug. He says the Buckeyes
32:22
Speaker 1: looked very rigid with the rigid with the in game
32:25
Speaker 1: play calling against Michigan. How difficult is it for coaches
32:28
Speaker 1: to change the game plan if it's not working.
32:31
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it is difficult. I think
32:35
Speaker 2: that game, like you know, that's going to take some
32:38
Speaker 2: kind of deep dive at some point where people are
32:41
Speaker 2: like more comfortable discussing it. I do think I don't
32:45
Speaker 2: know what you thought about Ryan Day's comment this week
32:48
Speaker 2: speaking of that article or like you know, there was
32:50
Speaker 2: obviously turned into the basis for that article we discussed
32:54
Speaker 2: at the beginning. I thought it was kind of telling
32:56
Speaker 2: like that He's like, I'm able to be more involved
32:58
Speaker 2: right now.
33:00
Speaker 3: I just think that.
33:02
Speaker 2: That Michigan game, I guess I would just say like
33:04
Speaker 2: the plan wasn't working, like they actually did try to
33:06
Speaker 2: change the plans up and then I think eventually, like
33:09
Speaker 2: I do think a lot of for the focus on
33:12
Speaker 2: running the ball too much, but like a as we
33:14
Speaker 2: just mentioned, the past concepts were not up to what
33:17
Speaker 2: they needed against what Michigan was doing.
33:20
Speaker 3: Will Howard, I just don't think.
33:21
Speaker 2: He was right, Like, I don't know, maybe that hit
33:24
Speaker 2: there's something there. He obviously played by far his worst game,
33:29
Speaker 2: and I just think then after a while, I think
33:31
Speaker 2: he got to the point like we can win this
33:33
Speaker 2: game thirteen to ten and let's just get out of here.
33:35
Speaker 2: This is terrible, and then they missed a chip field
33:39
Speaker 2: goal and then it's like, oh, oh god, now what?
33:42
Speaker 2: So I try not to, you know, think too much
33:46
Speaker 2: about it at the moment, but maybe, you know, six
33:48
Speaker 2: months from now, we can come back to it.
33:51
Speaker 1: Once everyone is out of their feelings completely and it's
33:54
Speaker 1: had a nice had time to heal, we can we
33:56
Speaker 1: can take a little bit of a little deeper dive
33:59
Speaker 1: on that dep.
34:00
Speaker 2: I do, Yeah, I do think though it's an interesting obviously,
34:03
Speaker 2: like an unanswerable question like what Ohio State be where
34:06
Speaker 2: they are right now without that Like defensively, I have
34:09
Speaker 2: no doubt they would not be as good as they
34:11
Speaker 2: are right now without that organ loss. And I just
34:14
Speaker 2: I don't think they'd be like I guess you'd say,
34:16
Speaker 2: ideally they'd win that game thirteen to ten and then
34:18
Speaker 2: still go back and watch the film be like we
34:20
Speaker 2: can't do this again.
34:22
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
34:23
Speaker 2: I just think college football has always been a weird
34:25
Speaker 2: thing where I think losses make a football team better
34:28
Speaker 2: because it really forces like like a look in the mirror.
34:32
Speaker 2: But you just in the past, you haven't been able
34:34
Speaker 2: to lose or lose one game maybe, and now oh
34:37
Speaker 2: I State obviously has gotten to lose to and one
34:40
Speaker 2: fix the defense, one fixed the offense.
34:43
Speaker 3: Yeah.
34:43
Speaker 1: I have said that at some point in the last
34:45
Speaker 1: week or two and kind of set it going, like,
34:49
Speaker 1: I think it might not have been a bad thing
34:51
Speaker 1: for Ohio State to have lost to Michigan and didn't
34:55
Speaker 1: get completely jumped and beaten to a pulp. So I
34:58
Speaker 1: think there is a some kind of a consensus in
35:00
Speaker 1: the Ohio State fan base based on how different they
35:03
Speaker 1: have looked since then, that it might be there might
35:06
Speaker 1: be at least some truth to that. So you know, well,
35:08
Speaker 1: you know, if if they win the next two games,
35:11
Speaker 1: I think that everyone in Buckeye Land will probably be
35:13
Speaker 1: pretty happy and will probably mostly be able to let
35:16
Speaker 1: that go. Hopefully we will see. All right, here's another
35:19
Speaker 1: one from warpark. Are you expecting a lot of twelve
35:21
Speaker 1: personnel from Ohio State in this game?
35:23
Speaker 3: Yes?
35:24
Speaker 2: I am again for the reasons we discussed, like they've
35:26
Speaker 2: been doing it a lot. They obviously they like again
35:30
Speaker 2: like it's the opposite of Michigan, right, like things are working,
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Speaker 2: you keep doing what's working. I think they want to
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Speaker 2: force Texas to play cover three and bring a safety,
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Speaker 2: roll the safety down and play match three, and then
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Speaker 2: you get your matchups on the outside.
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Speaker 1: All right, now, this is one from on our board
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Speaker 1: from Buckeye fan zero one to eight. He wants a
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Speaker 1: score prediction. And I guess that leads us into a
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Speaker 1: little bit of a broader conversation rather than just saying
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Speaker 1: two numbers, how about a little bit more of a
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Speaker 1: broad a broad look at how you think the game
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Speaker 1: might play out.
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Speaker 2: I I just I have trouble seeing how Texas scores
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Speaker 2: enough points to win.
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Speaker 3: Personally.
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Speaker 2: I just I think Ohio States defense is playing at
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Speaker 2: a really high level. It would require Texas to meet
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Speaker 2: to be able to sustain dries with the passing game.
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Speaker 2: And even that's like, I mean, Oregon did it a
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Speaker 2: few times and that evolved a lot of Dylan Gabriel
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Speaker 2: making plays outside of structure. I just unless, like, so,
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Speaker 2: I guess that's my that's my first thing. You know,
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Speaker 2: I'm willing to give both Texas like statistical credit for
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Speaker 2: what their defense is, though I will say that part
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Speaker 2: of me is like, well, they have not based really
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Speaker 2: a good passing offense this year. I mean, I guess
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Speaker 2: you could say Carson Beck and but Georgia's receivers are
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Speaker 2: like had so many drops this year that it's hard
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Speaker 2: to even compare. But so, but you know, I mean
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Speaker 2: Ohio State's like been hot, maybe they cool off offensively
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Speaker 2: a little bit, or like you know, a break goes
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Speaker 2: Texas is way because the other thing is Ohio State's
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Speaker 2: doing this with not even having created turnovers. U Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I mean they beat organ like that without a single turnover,
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Speaker 2: which is pretty pretty incredible. So I think my score
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Speaker 2: prediction I made it. I'm trying to remember if I said.
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Speaker 2: I think I said something like thirty one seventeen thirty.
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Speaker 2: You know, as I said, so giving giving Texas, uh,
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Speaker 2: you know, some credit for for where the defense is,
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Speaker 2: and again, like you know, the more things are on film,
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Speaker 2: the more opportunities they are. But I just think big
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Speaker 2: picture wise, I just absent again like multi turnover game
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Speaker 2: from Ohio States offense charuttle to see how Texas can
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Speaker 2: score with Ohio State given to the Ohio State defense.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The next I was going to ask you is, Okay,
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Speaker 1: if I tell you that Texas wins the game, what
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Speaker 1: what gets you to that point where it's like, okay,
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Speaker 1: they win and what you know, what's the what's the
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Speaker 1: score where Texas wins the game? Because it feels to
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Speaker 1: me like Texas would love for this to be a
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Speaker 1: rock fight, because if it's seventeen thirteen, then it's kind
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Speaker 1: of anyone's game, right, I mean, is that is that
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Speaker 1: with the path to win for Texas?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Because I mean the other thing is Texas's red zone
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Speaker 2: offense has been really bad, Like their touchdown percentage is
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Speaker 2: really low. I mean I think like multi turnover like yeah,
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Speaker 2: like twenty to seventeen kind of game where everything when
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Speaker 2: yours is playing great, you know, they're finding some way
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Speaker 2: to their sustaining drives. At least I say, turns the
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Speaker 2: ball over and they're somehow you know, taking away Jeremiah Smith.
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Speaker 2: I don't think I say it's going to let that happen,
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Speaker 2: at least the latter part, like they will force feed
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Speaker 2: the ball to Smith. Like how as I said, like
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Speaker 2: you was passing up open Carnel take to foresee the
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Speaker 2: ball and Jeremi Smith. So I don't think that's going
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Speaker 2: to occur, but that I yeah, I think that would be.
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Speaker 3: The path.
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