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Monday Mini: Do Women Love Fall? · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Adie and Samantha. I'm welcome to stuff
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  Speaker 1: I never told you production by Heart Radio and we
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  Speaker 1: have a bit of a lighter Monday mini today. But
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  Speaker 1: I was curious and I did find some interesting things
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  Speaker 1: about this topic as we move into Fall. I was
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  Speaker 1: just wondering why I and so many of my woman
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  Speaker 1: friends love Fall so much. And I've seen a lot
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  Speaker 1: of jokes about like women in Fall, what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Do you like Fall? Samantha, loveful? Love loveful? It's my favorite.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean there's as a lover of cardigans and soups,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how can you not Yeah, I would be
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I would be just a hypocrite not
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  Speaker 3: the love fall.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and you've touched on two of the big reasons
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  Speaker 1: people do love Wow. Yes, I also love Fall. It's
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  Speaker 1: my favorite season. As we go through these reasons, I'll
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  Speaker 1: kind of point out some of the ones that I
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  Speaker 1: relate to. But it's not just because of Halloween. I
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  Speaker 1: do love Halloween, but it is a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 1: about Halloween. It turns out there are a lot of
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  Speaker 1: articles on social media posts, many of them, as I said,
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  Speaker 1: jokes about why women love Fall and Halloween and some
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  Speaker 1: of them are pretty telling and often kind of sexists,
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  Speaker 1: I have to say, and we'll get into that. So
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  Speaker 1: why do women love fall? The number one reason I
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  Speaker 1: ran into pretty much we can wear comfortable clothing.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we'll say Annie. So I was so excited about
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  Speaker 3: going up to New York during September. I have two
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  Speaker 3: really cute swetters I just recently fought. I was like, yes,
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  Speaker 3: I'm wanna pack these. Girl. It was too hot, and
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  Speaker 3: I was so disappointed that I really wanted to wear
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  Speaker 3: my sweaters. I got to wear it one night, like
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  Speaker 3: for two nights, I got to.
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  Speaker 1: Wear a sweater.
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  Speaker 3: I was ready to be ready to be in that
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  Speaker 3: fall girl sweater mode.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, oh that's a travesty. Did you see any leaves?
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  Speaker 1: Did you? Oh? My god?
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  Speaker 3: I will say where we were, because we went pretty
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  Speaker 3: far up north. We got to see a lot of
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  Speaker 3: forges leaves. I'm trying to figure out how to post
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  Speaker 3: them because apparently on Instagram, through just the phone and
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  Speaker 3: not through the app, you can't post multiple pictures or
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  Speaker 3: I just don't know how because I was like.
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  Speaker 1: Why, okay, well I'm excited to see them.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna show you. I did post a video on
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  Speaker 3: TikTok of I was going through fog with some of
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  Speaker 3: the beautiful leaves. Oh yeah, yeah, you get a song
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  Speaker 3: on it and everything.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, Well we'll get more into that aspect
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  Speaker 1: in a second, but yeah, the sweaters are a big,
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  Speaker 1: a big part. The other is nice enough and much
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  Speaker 1: of the US at least that we don't have to
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  Speaker 1: put too much thought into our clothing, and or if
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  Speaker 1: you do like putting thought into your clothing, it's comfy
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  Speaker 1: clothing as opposed to the minimal layers of summer and
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  Speaker 1: the many many layers of winter. People wrote about not
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  Speaker 1: feeling like they have to paint their toenails or shave
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  Speaker 1: their legs. If those are things that you do, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't take as much effort to get ready. People said,
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  Speaker 1: as well, you aren't sweating too much. You don't have
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  Speaker 1: to shower as much because of that. It was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of stuff about the clothing and getting ready and
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  Speaker 1: just wanting to wear something comfortable, which made sense. There's
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  Speaker 1: a less concern about beach body. Some people said, more
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  Speaker 1: instances for indulgences in bulkier clothing. So like eating Halloween candy,
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  Speaker 1: you're eating pie and you got your bulky clothing on
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  Speaker 1: so you're not too worried about it about how you look.
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  Speaker 1: Brings us to the next point, coziness, which goes beyond
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  Speaker 1: just clothes. A lot of people wrote about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: curling up under a blanket with a good book or
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  Speaker 1: a movie. The food soups, chilies, comfort foods. Oh this
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  Speaker 1: one does, I do get excited. I haven't even really
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  Speaker 1: cocked it until recently, but I'll be like, oh, I
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  Speaker 1: can start making my chilies now. Yes, so that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: This one I can't say. But a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: wrote about if you're in a relationship, cuddling with the partner,
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  Speaker 1: having this kind of excuse to get close. I guess.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I do love my partner, but that's not
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  Speaker 3: the reason I like fall blankets and my cozy cardigans.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people in a very heteronormative sense. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of people also wrote like they like seeing their
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  Speaker 1: boy friend in a sweater, like they like a plane
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  Speaker 1: or sweater or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: The boyfriend in a nice sweater.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeh nice? Uh huh, yes, sure sure. Another one
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  Speaker 1: I don't relate to as much, but I can understand
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  Speaker 1: if you like something like football coming together over a
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  Speaker 1: game and watching it together. That happens in fall, well,
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  Speaker 1: it begins in tall. If you look forward to the
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  Speaker 1: end of your holidays, there's nostalgia and anticipation. If you don't,
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  Speaker 1: this is kind of your last hurrah before they come.
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  Speaker 1: So there's that. And then going back to the leaves.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty and it feels nice outside. Yeah, I love
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  Speaker 1: feels magical. People said that word a lot too. It
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  Speaker 1: felt kind of magical. I love the aesthetica fall. I
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  Speaker 1: love the leaves. I love the like pumpkins, I you know,
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  Speaker 1: Halloween related. I love the spooky decor. I love the
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  Speaker 1: chill in the air, like it's not quite cold you
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  Speaker 1: usually yet, but it's got a little chill. I just
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. And the leaves is
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  Speaker 1: so pretty. The colors are so pretty, envirant m Apparently
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  Speaker 1: the cooler temperatures offer more clarity of thinking than in
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  Speaker 1: summer months. There's been some studies into this. The temperature,
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  Speaker 1: along with fall activities, encourage people to get out more,
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  Speaker 1: which has health benefits, which is something that's also been
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  Speaker 1: looked into. Some reported about how it feels transitional and
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  Speaker 1: refreshes them, gives them new energy. Psychologists call this a
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  Speaker 1: temporal landmark. For some, it means coming back into a
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  Speaker 1: routine after a less predictable summer. So a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people go on vacation in the summer, like their schedule
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  Speaker 1: isn't quite as routine, But in the fall, you're sort
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  Speaker 1: of settling back into something. But Okay, why is this
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  Speaker 1: specific to women? Well, I and several others would argue
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  Speaker 1: that men aren't as pressured about their appearance as women are,
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  Speaker 1: So that's why, Like the comfy clothes was the number
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  Speaker 1: one reason I ran into looking into this. So much
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  Speaker 1: of this was about not having to put so much
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  Speaker 1: time and effort into how women look. And also I
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  Speaker 1: think it's kind of telling that a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: other stuff was about allowing yourself to have comfort or
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  Speaker 1: to slow down, which I think a lot of women
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  Speaker 1: have some guilt about or don't feel they don't feel
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  Speaker 1: like they can do it all the time. But when
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  Speaker 1: fall comes in, you're like, oh, I can get this
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  Speaker 1: book and get a blanket and it's some chili and
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  Speaker 1: like only things Samantha. I found this article on Glamour
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  Speaker 1: called why women look more like girlfriend material in the
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  Speaker 1: Fall that I couldn't quite tell if it was a
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  Speaker 1: joke or not. I don't think it was, but I
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  Speaker 1: have a few choice quotes from it. Okay, okay, all right.
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  Speaker 1: In the summer, the resulting thirty second fantasies are more
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  Speaker 1: along the lines of skinny dipping, which inevitably leads to
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  Speaker 1: slow standing eye contact sex, or simply trying to imagine
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  Speaker 1: what her boobs might look like based on the shape
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  Speaker 1: of her nose and eyes. Not a full proof system,
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  Speaker 1: but surprisingly accurate. In the fall, however, checking a woman
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  Speaker 1: out tends to make me think, Wow, I'd like to
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  Speaker 1: be in a long term relationship with that girl. So
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  Speaker 1: if it's not obvious, this is written by a man
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  Speaker 1: who is talking about why he checks out women. Here's
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  Speaker 1: another quote. Maybe it's pretty crude. The abundance of visible
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  Speaker 1: skin in the summer causes overstimulation and acute panic. How
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  Speaker 1: will I ever be able to have sex with all
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  Speaker 1: these women? How will I live with myself if I don't?
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  Speaker 1: Trying to be with just one woman is like a
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  Speaker 1: five year old sleeping in on this morning. If you
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  Speaker 1: haven't already found a relationship that's right for you, short
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  Speaker 1: skirt season is not the time to start looking so
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  Speaker 1: the article goes on, more reasons are given that basically
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  Speaker 1: equates to more clothes on a woman give her more
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  Speaker 1: personality and intelligence, which, to the to the credit of
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  Speaker 1: the offer, he goes out of his way to specify
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  Speaker 1: men also look stupid in the summer. Okay. Yeah. He
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  Speaker 1: also mentions not wanting to be alone for fall time activities,
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  Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of funny. Cuffee, you have
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  Speaker 1: told me about this, You have told me about this.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to say that I loosely understand the point,
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  Speaker 1: but it's rooted in essentially, what a woman wears is
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  Speaker 1: a measure of her until rogens or some kind of
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  Speaker 1: personality trait which you can tell something about, like I
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  Speaker 1: wear less Star Wars shirts. That's pretty telling. Liked live
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  Speaker 1: she likes Star Wars. But I don't think that like
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  Speaker 1: more or less showing of skins an accurate barometer of intelligence.
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  Speaker 3: That's an interesting rhetoric.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was quite interesting. That's a word for it. Yeah, okay, Well,
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  Speaker 1: obviously all of these things are generalizations, and not all
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  Speaker 1: women love fall I know for some people, moving into
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  Speaker 1: cooler months can trigger depressive symptoms. On top of that,
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  Speaker 1: this is back to school time and that usually falls
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  Speaker 1: to women to pick up more slack if they have children,
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  Speaker 1: though on the other hand, you may have more free
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  Speaker 1: time than during the summer while your kids are at school,
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  Speaker 1: so or on the other other hand, if you're in
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  Speaker 1: school yourself, it can be a time of reinvention. I
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  Speaker 1: did that a lot in college, not successfully usually, but
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like, this year, I'm gonna wear all stripes.
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  Speaker 1: I did do that one year, that all striped shirt.
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  Speaker 1: My shirts are all stripes. I was trying to look
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  Speaker 1: smart like this. This the rhetoric this guy has has
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  Speaker 1: infiltrated my mind. I don't think it's true in any way,
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  Speaker 1: but I guess I did think, like if I put
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  Speaker 1: on a cardigan, looked smarter.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I do make jos about looking like a librarian,
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  Speaker 3: but that's not necessarily equating it to smarter in my head.
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  Speaker 1: But maybe, yeah, to make it clear, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it's true, but I do think that there has been
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  Speaker 1: that narrative of like associating this sort of fall look
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  Speaker 1: with a professor or a librarian or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Also to put in here, if you're like me, I
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  Speaker 1: have long preferred comfort over fashion, especially after the pandemic
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  Speaker 1: looking good, I would say, But it is true that
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  Speaker 1: in the before times I preferred a very a comfy
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  Speaker 1: sweater to a tank top that I looked good in.
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  Speaker 1: I liked the comfort part better. It is interesting that
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the very kind of traditional gendered responses
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  Speaker 1: were let me be comfortable, take less time to look
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  Speaker 1: good enough to go out, and let me be just
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  Speaker 1: comfy in my activities. And you can look great in
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  Speaker 1: a sweater. I don't want to make it sound like
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  Speaker 1: you can't, but I think the traditional the gender stereotypes
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  Speaker 1: we have is that, yeah, the more skin you show,
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  Speaker 1: the sexier you are. But in the fall, I can
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  Speaker 1: out wear my sweater somewhere, my coats.
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  Speaker 2: Give me my pea coat, yeah, my scarfs, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah I mine is also largely Halloween creepy times too, though.
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  Speaker 1: So that's fair. It's got a vibe. It's just got
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  Speaker 1: the whole vibe. It does. It does pumpkins, Oh, I
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  Speaker 1: love pumpkins. I'm working on our hopefully I'll get it
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  Speaker 1: done in time. We'll see. But I'm working on our
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  Speaker 1: like one shots minty fiction for this month, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to make it Halloween bye because it comes out
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  Speaker 1: on Halloween, I think, and it's already got a creepy pumpkin,
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  Speaker 1: so creepy pumpkins. Yes, well, listeners, I would love to
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  Speaker 1: hear from you. You love fall, they hate fall?
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