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55KRC Wednesday Show - Jack Atherton, AFP, Scott Wartman, Judge Napolitano · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Five o five. I think you five KRC the talk station.
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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday.
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Speaker 2: Some say.
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Speaker 1: Will vacation and that's the way the news going. Yes, indeed,
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Speaker 1: a very happy Wednesday to you. Brian Thomas is my name,
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Speaker 1: the host of fifty five Kersey Morning S. You're glad
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Speaker 1: to be and I'm glad. Joe Strecker is the executi
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Speaker 1: producer of this particular program, because without Joe, the show
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Speaker 1: don't goes with the old phrase goes and what's coming up?
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Speaker 1: Thanks Joe Strecker. Lineup. Joe does that with a big
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Speaker 1: Picture with Jack Allen, and every Wednesday at seven o
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Speaker 1: five get the blessings of Jack Atherton and his brilliance.
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Speaker 1: It always is wonderful commentary at my subjective opinion. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: you draw your own conclusions. Let's listen to him and
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Speaker 1: see what you think today. The subject matter, the fall
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Speaker 1: of great cities. God reminds me of Dorhan Mamdami, the
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Speaker 1: fall of New York City. Anyway, I got a little
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Speaker 1: article about him. I just man, the guy's a blank
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Speaker 1: in Marxist communist, without question. How we got down this
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Speaker 1: road and how we elect politicians that are this far
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Speaker 1: left is beyond my comprehension, these idiot policies. They had
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Speaker 1: just been proven time and time again, the epic failures
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Speaker 1: around the globe, and we blindly get down that road. Oh,
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Speaker 1: he's gonna make it all free. Everything's gonna be free,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be wonderful. No, it's not. Hey, he's got
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Speaker 1: a seizing property wealthy distribution concept going on. This Mandammi
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Speaker 1: guy in New York City. Get to that maybe at
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Speaker 1: some point today. Anyway, a little bit frustrated in the
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Speaker 1: back of my head with all the issues swirling around.
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Speaker 1: Sorry fall of great cities. Not even sure where Jack's
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Speaker 1: gonna go with that one, but I see New York
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Speaker 1: City just swirling down the toilet. Pick your own big city.
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Speaker 1: Donovan and Neil Americans for Americans for Prosperity Action in
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Speaker 1: Ohio hat he's the state director for AFP Action or Ohio.
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Speaker 1: Donovan and Neil joins a program every Wednesday at seven thirty. Today,
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Speaker 1: no different. We're talking about the One Small Step campaign
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Speaker 1: and America two fifty today two fifty we're celebrating our
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Speaker 1: two hundred fifty years of existence? Can we last another one?
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Speaker 1: Scott Warptman from the CINCINNTI inquirer. I'm looking forward to
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Speaker 1: hiving Scott on the program. I enjoy talking with him.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate what he writes about memo to Morgan Trout
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Speaker 1: he writes for w CPO. I don't know if you
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Speaker 1: read WCPO and Morgan, if you're out there, quit writing
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Speaker 1: about yourself. He always interjects himself into the reporting. I asked,
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Speaker 1: I did this, you know, and I'm sorry. It's factual reporting.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm a traditionalist when it comes to journalism.
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Speaker 1: Just write the facts and quit interjecting yourself into the equation. Anyways,
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Speaker 1: went down that road, s Kytt Wartman doesn't do that.
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Speaker 1: He's from the Cincinna Inquiry be talking about the city budget.
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Speaker 1: City budget. Why are we giving money to the Farmer
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Speaker 1: Music Center? He asked, again and again and again. Some
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Speaker 1: other council members were asking the same thing. And I
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Speaker 1: like to think that council will override the city manager's
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Speaker 1: decision and the mayor's decision to throw desperately needed and
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Speaker 1: scarce city funds at a project that was already fully
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Speaker 1: funded and a project that will net perhaps the City
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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati some additional revenue why, Well, because it's being
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Speaker 1: built and it's going to happen, whether or not the
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Speaker 1: city throws scarce resources at the project. Can someone please
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Speaker 1: explain to me if you know the answer to the
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Speaker 1: question why it is the city wanted to go down
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Speaker 1: that road in the first place. Where did that ask
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Speaker 1: come from? Somewhere between two and six point five million
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Speaker 1: originally eight million, The city just out of nowhere said
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Speaker 1: we're going to throw some money at the Farmer Music
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Speaker 1: Center project. Why is there any one out there in
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Speaker 1: the world that knows why or the reason for that?
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Speaker 1: When we're busy cutting everything else twenty nine and a
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Speaker 1: half million dollar budget shortfall, we're in the hole that much.
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Speaker 1: Why would you throw millions of dollars at a project
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Speaker 1: where it's again already funded. I don't get it, Shenanigans.
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Speaker 1: Perhaps since we don't have any information on it, I
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Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe Scott Wartman can answer that question at
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Speaker 1: eight oh five. Looking forward to having you on the program. Scott.
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Speaker 1: If you're listening, follow Judge Inn and Apolitano. Fourth Amendment
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Speaker 1: issues has been a regular topic of Judge in and
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Speaker 1: a Polatana. We're going to be talking about the Fourth Amendment.
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Speaker 1: Do we even have one left anymore.
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Speaker 3: Frightening.
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow the Morning Show, Warren Davison returns Congressman Warren Davidson,
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Speaker 1: Jay Ratliffe and I love the man Peter Bronson. We
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Speaker 1: fire and Peter Peter Bronson appreciate his interesting commentary, his
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Speaker 1: writing and him coming on the program tomorrow five one, three, seven,
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Speaker 1: four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred two to three
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Speaker 1: Talk Pound five point fifty on AT and T phones. Man,
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you say you want about Donald Trump, he
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Speaker 1: is on a roll. Ken Paxton handily defeated John Cornyan
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Speaker 1: in Texas. Texas Attorney General Paxton described as a decisive
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Speaker 1: defeat over John Cornyan. See here we got Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: coming out of nowhere and endorsing Paxton. It worked. Ap
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Speaker 1: called the race nine pm. Forty nine percent of the
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Speaker 1: vote had been counted, and the statistics were overwhelming, Paxton
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Speaker 1: leading Cornyan sixty two and a half percent to thirty
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Speaker 1: seven point five. That's how you can call a race
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Speaker 1: early overwhelmingly. Yes, if you've got that many votes in
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Speaker 1: only forty nine percent, But if that kind of that
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Speaker 1: that sizeable difference is just insurmountable, so he wins. That's
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Speaker 1: one week after Trump gave him his in Donald Trump's word,
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Speaker 1: complete and total endorsement, calling him a highly respected Attorney
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Speaker 1: General of Texas America, first patriot, and someone who's always
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Speaker 1: been extremely loyal. Now, you know, for the always Trump
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Speaker 1: folks out there, you're going to be pissed off at
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Speaker 1: me for pointing out again, I'm getting a little tired.
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Speaker 1: Maybe you feel differently about this. He keeps talking about
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Speaker 1: himself a lot, and almost it seems even more lately
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump does and getting repetitive in his praise of himself,
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Speaker 1: and he's getting in political hot water with this whole
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Speaker 1: war in Iran kind of thing, and the price of
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Speaker 1: energy going through the roof, and he may end up
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Speaker 1: making concessions to the Iranians he doesn't want to make
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Speaker 1: merely because well, we are all getting more and more
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Speaker 1: agitated about the price against who's filled their tank lately.
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Speaker 1: I know, I regularly point out I'm supposed to put
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Speaker 1: premium in my car, and I do run premium in
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Speaker 1: my car. Okay, fine, don't buy a car that requires premium,
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Speaker 1: But I beat six bucks a gallon yesterday it was
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Speaker 1: ninety dollars ninety bucks. Fortunately, I don't have the curb
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Speaker 1: on my grocery build to cover that. Others find themselves
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Speaker 1: in a different position, and it's becoming a little bit
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Speaker 1: intolerable for so many people. I'm just wondering. It just
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Speaker 1: seems to me that maybe concessions to the Iranians are
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Speaker 1: going to be made. Here here's a question for you.
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Speaker 1: Will Trump make concessions to the Iranians that he previously
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Speaker 1: said he would never make? Will Trump can insist on
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Speaker 1: a decisive victory if it requires boots on the ground.
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Speaker 1: What will he do in advance of the November of
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Speaker 1: November election? Got any theories of thoughts on that? Love
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Speaker 1: to hear from me on that looking more and more
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Speaker 1: like he may make concessions, because of course people are
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Speaker 1: upset about everything related to this war. Now, did the
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Speaker 1: Iranian Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamani get the memo that we
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Speaker 1: are in the middle of negotiations? And where has he been?
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Speaker 1: He's been well since we kind of blew him up
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Speaker 1: a little bit, we keep talking about you. Nobody's seen
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Speaker 1: or heard from him since his dad was blown up.
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Speaker 1: According to the reporting, he the Iran Supreme Leader, declared,
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Speaker 1: just yesterday, amid all these swirling talks about concessions and
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Speaker 1: peace negotiations and the ceasefire that isn't over, but is anyway,
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Speaker 1: death to America and death to Israel. Written message apparently
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Speaker 1: marking the annual Hodge pilgrimage to Mecca, he described Israel
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Speaker 1: as a canceroust tumor and said death to America and
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Speaker 1: death to Israel will become a rallying cries of the
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Speaker 1: Muslim world. Death to American and death to Israel shall
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Speaker 1: become the common chance of the Islamic nation and the
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Speaker 1: world's as especially among the youth. That's a quote from Kameni,
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Speaker 1: who wrote this in a statement published by the Iranian
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Speaker 1: state linked outlets and his official ex account, praising has
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Speaker 1: Bala and other Iranian back terror groups for what he
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Speaker 1: called victories against the American Zionist armies. Now do you
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Speaker 1: think he has control over his own social media accounts?
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Speaker 1: Is he even still alive?
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Speaker 3: We don't know.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't pop his head out of whatever bunker he's
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Speaker 1: hanging out in, or maybe he's dead, disfigured, maybe he's
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Speaker 1: in a coma. We don't know this is part of
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Speaker 1: the swirling discussion who is in charge of Iran? Who's
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Speaker 1: sitting in a negotiation table. Oh, it's that guy, the designee.
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Speaker 1: But does he have any impact or control over what
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Speaker 1: the Iran Supreme Leader Mojaba Kamani has to say about everything?
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Speaker 1: And there's also this, there's another article. I read this,
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Speaker 1: but you know, negotiating with the Iranians requires this circuitous
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Speaker 1: root of memoranda and negotiations points ultimately having to reach
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Speaker 1: the Iran Supreme Leader. But he's in a bunker somewhere,
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Speaker 1: and the intentionally are keeping his location hidden because of
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Speaker 1: course the next bomb that gets dropped on someone over
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Speaker 1: there is obviously targeting him. So if you find out
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Speaker 1: where he is, we're going to blow him up. Obviously
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Speaker 1: makes peace negotiations a little bit difficult when you're planning
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Speaker 1: on blowing up the opposition's leader. Their problem, not ours,
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Speaker 1: but it slows down negotiation. So I'm thinking, with this
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Speaker 1: death to America threat just yesterday, maybe he's a little behind,
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Speaker 1: or maybe he's not in favor of negotiating a resolution
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Speaker 1: with the unity with the United States. Do you shake him?
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Speaker 1: Zionist regime and the cancerous tumor of Israel are approaching
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Speaker 1: the final stages of their wretched existence. That's a bold statement.
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Speaker 1: The United States not only will no longer have a
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Speaker 1: safe haven for its mischief and for establishing military bases
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Speaker 1: in the region, but day by day it is growing
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Speaker 1: more distant from its former status. He has a different
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Speaker 1: perception of where things stand right now. I suppose what
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Speaker 1: do you think? He prays what he described as the
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Speaker 1: the power of Alua Akbar, claiming Iranian forces and alli
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Speaker 1: Jihadis groups had delivered, in his words, a hard slap
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Speaker 1: in the United States, while leaving Israel again, in his words,
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Speaker 1: gasping its final breath, saying, the armed forces of Islamic
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Speaker 1: Iran prepared sacrifice their lives, prepared to sacrifice their lives
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Speaker 1: together with the fighters of the Resistance Front, particularly beloved Lebanon,
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Speaker 1: have achieved astonishing victories against two terrorist armies, the American
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Speaker 1: and Zionist armies. Wow, Hugh, I hear, I thought we
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Speaker 1: were close to negotiating some sort of resolution. Probably not.
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Speaker 1: Five point seventeen fifty five cares to the detoxation five p.
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Speaker 1: One three seven four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred
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Speaker 1: and eighty two three talk con FI fifty on AT
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Speaker 1: and T phones don't go well. We got plenty to
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Speaker 1: go through this morning, and we have an outcome. Who
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Speaker 1: is the Hamilton County Republican Party chair Now? I got
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Speaker 1: the word from westside Jim Keefer, and I have the
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Speaker 1: answer to that stick around.
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Speaker 4: It happens only once a year in Las Vegan.
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Speaker 1: The answer, Josh Girth is the Hamilton County Republican GOP
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Speaker 1: party chairman. After the vote took place yesterday and announcement
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Speaker 1: maybe several hours ago, did signal ninety nine have anything
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Speaker 1: to do with that? Joe? What do you think was
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Speaker 1: her endorsement of Josh Girth? Definitive? Was that the one
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Speaker 1: that pushed him over the edge. Apparently won pretty decisively too,
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Speaker 1: the vote one thirty to ninety five, Josh Garth over
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Speaker 1: Bob Ruhlman. The numbers came from west Side Jim Keefer. So,
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Speaker 1: Jim Keefer, if you're wrong on that, you steer me
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Speaker 1: in the wrong direction. I am giving you credit for
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Speaker 1: the actual outcome and the specific vote tally. I know
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Speaker 1: he was there, Joe, of course he was there. So anyway,
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Speaker 1: congratulations that Josh. I wish him all the best, and
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Speaker 1: I like to see some more action from the Hamilton
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Speaker 1: Kunty Republican Party. They seemed to be suspiciously absent in
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Speaker 1: It's as if they pulled the flag out when they
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Speaker 1: left Hamilton County, following all the other conservative Republicans who
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Speaker 1: have fled Hamilton County in favor of more favorable climbs,
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Speaker 1: you know, Warren County, Butler County, Claarmont County, all opportunities
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Speaker 1: for well, perhaps less socialist leaning conditions. And mate, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you think Josh Growth will actually come on the air.
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Speaker 1: That's a good question. Joe. When's the last time we
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Speaker 1: heard from the Hamilton kind of Republican Party here in
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Speaker 1: the fifty five Cassey Morning Show? Do you remember he's
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Speaker 1: looking at his non existent watch so long ago? I
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Speaker 1: can't remember, says Jose Trekker. Anyway, I get just my
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Speaker 1: wife's enemy, a print out yesterday memorandums she got from
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Speaker 1: her employer. She's a healthcare lawyer, so this is important
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Speaker 1: pointing out that got Mike DeWine. Remember our governor here
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Speaker 1: in Ohio. He issued executive order it was May eighteenth
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Speaker 1: this year. Well, changes to Medicaid apparently, I guess he
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Speaker 1: read the Daily Wire reporting on it. Maybe he didn't
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Speaker 1: even look at Favors twenty twenty four audit showing that
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Speaker 1: there were all kinds of problems with Medicare and medicaid
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Speaker 1: here in the state of Ohio. Medicaid fraud clearly a problem,
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Speaker 1: although some reporters keep saying it currently unproven, currently unproven,
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Speaker 1: it's not proven that there's medica Is anybody believe there's
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Speaker 1: not medicaid fraud in the state of Ohio or really
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Speaker 1: literally anywhere? I got this just anyhow what he'd emergency? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's the bubbling bongus to pity. So we have executive orders.
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Speaker 1: We all know what those are, right. You can't wait
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Speaker 1: for the legislative branch to do something by way of
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Speaker 1: passing a law, So you, as the head of the state,
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Speaker 1: sign an executive order to fix problems. Donald Trump's been
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Speaker 1: famous for this. Vie haven't noticed changes effective May eighteenth,
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Speaker 1: according to the executive order bypassing normal rulemaking procedures to
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Speaker 1: immediately amend three Ohio Administrative Code rules governing the state's
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Speaker 1: medicaid provider endorsement Oversight was there any oversight? Doesn't seem
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Speaker 1: to be if you read the Daily Wire reporting on it.
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Speaker 1: Hole in hell? Can all these entities and organizations that
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Speaker 1: allegedly provide medicaid services to individuals be located in one
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Speaker 1: single square block in Franklin County, hundreds of them occupying
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Speaker 1: multiple single buildings owned by the same landlord, and none
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Speaker 1: of them seem to have any activity involved. It's funny
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Speaker 1: because we interviewed or I interviewed the Daily Wire reporter
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Speaker 1: on that one. Most recently find the podcastity five kcy
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Speaker 1: dot com. He sent a letter to one of these
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Speaker 1: medicaid providers like six months prior to his actually visiting
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Speaker 1: the building where this thing was located. The letter that
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Speaker 1: he sent was leaning up against the door, along with
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Speaker 1: a lot of other apparently unread mail. No one had
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Speaker 1: gone into the office since he sent the letter. It's
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Speaker 1: laying there collecting dust. Anyway. The emergency order terminate inactive providers.
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Speaker 1: Tell me this doesn't make sense, Like, why didn't I
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Speaker 1: think that like a year or two or even three
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Speaker 1: years ago, terminate inactive providers provider agreements. This is the
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Speaker 1: court of the Executive order may now be immediately terminated
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Speaker 1: for any provider that has not furnished services to a
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Speaker 1: Medicaid beneficiary or build Medicaid in more than one year.
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Speaker 1: In other words, they're idle, they're not doing anything. Hmm,
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Speaker 1: that suggests you're not providing services. If you haven't built
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Speaker 1: medicaid for Medicaid services, you're inactive. I'm sorry. Sucks to
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Speaker 1: be your licenses terminated. Nice. That seems to me to
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Speaker 1: be a great way to get rid of some of
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Speaker 1: the excess here and prevent some of the fraud waste abuse. Previously,
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Speaker 1: how Department of Medicaid Services would only terminate providers that
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Speaker 1: had not provided services or build Medicaid in two there
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Speaker 1: were more years than that. The change means that new
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Speaker 1: providers will now find themselves at risk of termination could
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Speaker 1: require more frequent revalidation. The standard five year revalidation cycle
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Speaker 1: can now be shortened for any provider at the Medicaid
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Speaker 1: Director's discretion. Well, discretion suggests to me that maybe it
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Speaker 1: won't happen anyway. Higher risk providers identified through data analytics
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Speaker 1: and targeted screening should expect to revalidate enrollment on an
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Speaker 1: accelerated basis. Uttedly, neither the Executiveder nor the emergency rules
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Speaker 1: define what constitutes a higher risk providers. So you see
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Speaker 1: there's still some wiggle room in there electronic verification. Apparently
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Speaker 1: there was a wiggle room in the federal law that
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Speaker 1: was passed that required electronic verification to get payment. And
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Speaker 1: yet here in the state of Ohio, we never asked
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Speaker 1: for that. To the extent we had it, we suspended it. Now,
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Speaker 1: go ahead, submit to claim we don't need electronic verification.
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Speaker 1: I guess we trust you at your word. Uh huh,
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Speaker 1: So faster lose faster, lose fast and Lewis Finally it
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Speaker 1: all hits the fan. Got de Wine is in the
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Speaker 1: crosshairs of well concerns, questions swirling over how he allowed
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Speaker 1: this to happen, perhaps motivations on why he allowed it
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Speaker 1: to happen. You've got protections in place, you have the
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Speaker 1: ability to watch out for the taxpayer money, and yet
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Speaker 1: you threw them out the window. I'm still wanting to
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Speaker 1: get the answer to that question. Why would you get
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Speaker 1: rid of the electronic verification requirement? Federal law says you got.
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Speaker 3: To do it.
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Speaker 1: Well, read the language. There are some exceptions and there's
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Speaker 1: some discretion and yeah, so what would be my question?
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Speaker 1: It should be difficult to get a payment there should
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Speaker 1: be hurdles to getting payments from any federal program that
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Speaker 1: will be your and my dollars being thrown out into
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Speaker 1: the world, obviously to perform some allegedly altruistic purpose. Great,
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Speaker 1: but shouldn't it be challenging to do that because it's
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Speaker 1: our money? At least somewhat challenging some sort of proof. Hey, look,
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Speaker 1: there are two hundred and twenty five medicaid organizations located
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Speaker 1: in one building of one block in Franklin County. Nothing
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Speaker 1: to see there, five twenty eight Right now, fifty five
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Speaker 5: talking about this morning. But I listened to a couple
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Speaker 5: of things over the weekend. One was your your interview
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Speaker 5: with them. Yeah, I think your most recent interview was
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Speaker 5: zek And another one was an old, an old show,
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Speaker 5: Johnny Carson Show, where he was interviewing Ronald Reagan. And
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Speaker 5: basically we're talking about the political class, the permanent bureaucracy
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Speaker 5: that's in place, all of the people that work for
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Speaker 5: the government, that have permanent jobs. And it was interesting
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Speaker 5: that Reagan referred to him as it's quite a voting block.
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Speaker 5: And at that point in time, I think he mentioned
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Speaker 5: it was like fourteen and a half billion people, and
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Speaker 5: I'm sure it's a lot more than that now. I
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Speaker 5: think that was back in the seventies when he was
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Speaker 5: I think he was former governor at the time. It
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Speaker 5: is between when he was governor and when he became
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Speaker 5: president and how many people work for the government. I mean,
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Speaker 5: they we're not just talking about people are on the
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Speaker 5: public goal. We're talking about people who have to hear
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Speaker 5: their jobs on the government existing right, And of course
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Speaker 5: you know the Zach. More recently, Vick was talking about
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Speaker 5: how he's an enemy to bureaucracy. Well, you just basically
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Speaker 5: can put a target on your head people that work
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Speaker 5: for any given government agency, whatever it be county, state,
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Speaker 5: you know, federal, whatever, you know. You're you're against bureaucracy.
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Speaker 5: That's my job, you're talking about, and that's what that's
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Speaker 5: what's been created in this country and very very skillfully done.
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Speaker 5: How you have all these millions and millions of people
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Speaker 5: who work directly for the government, and if you're going
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Speaker 5: to have a problem with the you're gonna have a
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Speaker 5: problem with the way the government does stuff. We got
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Speaker 5: to get rid of this agency. We got to get
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Speaker 5: you're talking about people's likelihood that you're messing with.
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Speaker 1: That is correct. Think of the other case. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's not just people who work and draw a paycheck
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Speaker 1: from government. It's also the non governmental organizations, which are
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Speaker 1: basically subcontractors. So you have a class of people who
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Speaker 1: are direct employees and then a separate class who are
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Speaker 1: indirect employees of government, which is every NGO that's got
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Speaker 1: his hand of the taxpayer funded cookie jar.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I agree, man, I'm not saying we should keep them.
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Speaker 5: I don't want to make anyone you are saying what
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Speaker 5: I'm saying. I'm not saying we should keep them. I'm
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Speaker 5: just saying that's what we're up against. This is a
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Speaker 5: political fist flight there women, and we don't have as
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Speaker 5: on the conservative side. We don't have the numbers to
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Speaker 5: be able to just kick back and relax. And you know,
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Speaker 5: like you just mentioned about the Republican Party in Hamilton
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Speaker 5: County and House like seemingly non existent, they pulled up
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Speaker 5: the flag. You know, we can't We can't afford to
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Speaker 5: do that anywhere and even including including where we're leading.
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Speaker 5: And you know, look a look at state of Ohio.
23:31
Speaker 5: Ohio is like it's a Republican Republicans have controlled everything.
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Speaker 5: Look at all the crap that's going on here. We
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Speaker 5: can't afford to do this. We have got to stay
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Speaker 5: vigilant in the message of stop doing things in a
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Speaker 5: conservative way, and we got to make sure that we
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Speaker 5: get rid of people that are causing problems even within
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Speaker 5: our own party. This is a time to relax, and
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Speaker 5: it's definitely not time to mess around. When you get
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Speaker 5: in the voting boot, don't vote Democrat. Have a great day.
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Speaker 1: The rallying cry tells me that very popular five care
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Speaker 1: c Detalk station, Happy Wednesday, trying to make it so anyway,
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Speaker 1: struggle to get through the issues this morning. I love
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Speaker 1: hearing from listeners five three, seven, four, nine, fifty five
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Speaker 1: over the break. Welcome to the Morning show, sir.
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Speaker 8: Hey, good morning, Brian. They love how you keep bringing
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Speaker 8: the Medicaid fraud back around. That's what it's going to
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Speaker 8: take and pressure. So everybody call your representatives, call your senators.
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Speaker 8: But you're asking the right question. Here is what was
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Speaker 8: the motive for turning off the EVV And I'm going
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Speaker 8: to give you a Joe credit. Years ago, Jennifer Gross
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Speaker 8: explained to us all how Medicaid, the re embarrassment math
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Speaker 8: formula from the federal government to Ohio or any other
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Speaker 8: state was great financially and this all started Obama baated
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Speaker 8: this look something like fifteen years ago when Obamacare offered
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Speaker 8: to pay what was then called Medicaid expansion for three
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Speaker 8: years to all the states that if you take this deal,
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Speaker 8: call it Medicaid expansion and set the word fraud, we'll
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Speaker 8: pay for it for three years. Kasik took the deal,
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Speaker 8: and the Ohio the Senate and the.
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Speaker 3: House rejected this.
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Speaker 8: This went back and forth until the Ohio Supreme Court,
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Speaker 8: that was packed full of liberals at the time, of course,
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Speaker 8: sided with Kasik and he was allowed at the executive
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Speaker 8: level to make that decision. The wine was against it
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Speaker 8: until he got into office, and then amazingly.
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Speaker 3: He flip flopped.
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Speaker 8: And the reason he flip flopped was he saw how
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Speaker 8: much money this thing could make Tom Dallas towns. You
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Speaker 8: talked yesterday about the one billion dollars of overfunding that
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Speaker 8: the state of Ohio has due to the gas tax.
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Speaker 8: I love Tom Dallas task. The right answers four billion.
25:53
Speaker 8: That's what the Rainy Day Fund is. And I did
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Speaker 8: some research into what is the Randy Day Fund. The
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Speaker 8: rainy Day Fund is nothing more than we're taking They're
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Speaker 8: taking in more tax dollars than what they had been
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Speaker 8: their budget. So they just keep it and put it
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Speaker 8: in and steal it and call it a rainy Day fund.
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Speaker 1: And then they into it to give six hundred million
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Speaker 1: dollars to the Cleveland Browns.
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Speaker 7: No, that's a different thing.
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Speaker 1: I know. I was seeing that fund. Jay, I was
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Speaker 1: teeing that up for you man. I know where that
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Speaker 1: is coming from.
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Speaker 8: How many that's that's a different way.
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Speaker 1: How many slash funds do we have, Jay, how many
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Speaker 1: slush funds.
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Speaker 8: Well, not not slush funds, brother theft funds.
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Speaker 7: It's theft.
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Speaker 8: If they're taking a dollar more than what's required to
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Speaker 8: run the state, it's it's stealing from from from us,
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Speaker 8: and it's and it's it's just that disrespectful. I think
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Speaker 8: Tom also had a great point that the other reason
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Speaker 8: Ohio is doing this and the wine is doing this
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Speaker 8: and turning off the e v V is we have
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Speaker 8: a growth issue. Economic development is not occurring organically in Ohio,
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Speaker 8: and the majority of growth that we've seen is coming
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Speaker 8: from a Beijing, China type of public private partnership with
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Speaker 8: this jobs Ohio thing that's been created to and you
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Speaker 8: see us try to buy businesses like Intel, and every
27:06
Speaker 8: time there's a big deal going down, it's us throwing money,
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Speaker 8: not us Columbus throwing money at somebody to try to
27:13
Speaker 8: get them to come to town. So if we have
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Speaker 8: a huge Medicaid it becomes a great, big jobs creation monster.
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Speaker 8: That's the other reason that the wine doesn't want to
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Speaker 8: turn it off. And also we can pen this all
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Speaker 8: on to wine, But I think we're being awfully quant
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Speaker 8: tie into favor and Prague and Dave yost I called
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Speaker 8: the fraud hotline for the auditor. I called the fraud
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Speaker 8: hotline for yost I talked to Faber and he insisted
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Speaker 8: that it wasn't fraud. I couldn't even get through the
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Speaker 8: admins at the Attorney General's office. They kept calling me
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Speaker 8: back saying that they had decided that this doesn't warrant
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Speaker 8: a fraud investigation. I said, who are we when you
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Speaker 8: say we decided, will.
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Speaker 7: We the admin?
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Speaker 8: I said, like the people like admins and answer the phone? Yes,
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Speaker 8: he said, you guys scream the calls on the fraud hotline.
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Speaker 3: Yes. Wow, so they knew.
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Speaker 8: And to Tom Zwastowski's other point, if you're the treasurer
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Speaker 8: of the State of Ohio, Craig, and you see this
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Speaker 8: going on, and Tom asked them the question yesterday, can't
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Speaker 8: we just make.
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Speaker 7: A journal entry?
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Speaker 8: And Pray says absolutely, well, then, by God's step to
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Speaker 8: a microphone and have a press conference, as opposed to
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Speaker 8: all you laying down like the wine lap.
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Speaker 3: Dogs like you've done.
28:31
Speaker 8: How are happy dependent on him? Let him take the hit,
28:34
Speaker 8: and they're all going to stand up and put the
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Speaker 8: red cape on and have s on their chest, and
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Speaker 8: all of a sudden, these rhinos that have not done
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Speaker 8: anything for the eight years of the wine, all of
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Speaker 8: a sudden, and I'm gonna throw off off. I hear
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Speaker 8: one more person that says, well, can't people change? No,
28:50
Speaker 8: I don't think people are.
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Speaker 3: Going to change that much.
28:52
Speaker 8: I think what we're going to be handed is another
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Speaker 8: class of rhinos, and we're going to expect something different,
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Speaker 8: which is a definition of insanity. So don't vote rhino,
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Speaker 8: don't vote Democrat. Have a good day, Brian.
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Speaker 1: You do the same.
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Speaker 7: You know.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting because you know, you get those memories on
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Speaker 1: for holding over the break. Welcome to the morning show, Sir.
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Speaker 5: Born and Brian.
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Speaker 9: This is my favorite topic. I want everybody to seek
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Speaker 9: out and find her where you signed the petitions for
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Speaker 9: the Acts Ohio tax petition that's coming up due in July.
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Speaker 9: This will give it the same passes. This will cut
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Speaker 9: down all this fraud, waste and abuse in a lot
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Speaker 9: of these cities and government agencies.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, do you keep hashing that over?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I I'm just standing back with a
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Speaker 1: grin on my face because if that goes through, and
31:42
Speaker 1: I've said it multiple multiple times, chaos in Columbus top.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's I just want to see our elected
31:49
Speaker 1: officials have to deal with with taking away property tax.
31:54
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's going to be a disaster,
31:55
Speaker 1: a Charlie foxtrot. They're gonna have to come up with
31:57
Speaker 1: all kinds of creative alternatives and solutions deal with the
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Speaker 1: allocation of these taxpayer dollars that used to come for
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Speaker 1: property taxes or where they're going to secure them from.
32:06
Speaker 1: But yeah, if you have that funding resource cut off
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Speaker 1: and they have to basically start from scratch or create
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Speaker 1: come up with new alternative ways of funding, maybe they
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Speaker 1: will keep fraud, wasted abuse in mind. Right, Maybe they'll
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Speaker 1: prevent that from happening, because it's an easy grab. If
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Speaker 1: you just say, hey, your property's worth X and we're
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Speaker 1: going to take this percentage of it sucks to be you.
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Speaker 1: What can you do about it except argue over the
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Speaker 1: valuation of your home? Take the opportunity away from them. Hmmm,
32:32
Speaker 1: what are we going to do? Or were going to
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Speaker 1: increase sales tax? How high do we have to increase it?
32:37
Speaker 1: Maybe people will pay closer attention. I don't know, but
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Speaker 1: you know, a part of me understands the massive challenge
32:43
Speaker 1: that's going to be and all the problems that are
32:44
Speaker 1: going to flow from it if we take away property tax.
32:48
Speaker 1: But I mean to the extent you want someone to
32:51
Speaker 1: have to do their job, that is going to be
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Speaker 1: one hell of a hurdle that they're going to have
32:56
Speaker 1: to deal with our elected officials in Columbus. So keep
32:59
Speaker 1: your popcorn out. If you want that property tax removed,
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Speaker 1: you want it incorporated into the constitution that they can't
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Speaker 1: take property text from you, go ahead and sign the
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Speaker 1: petition and then you don't have an opportunity to vote
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Speaker 1: on it. But until they get enough signatures, is not
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Speaker 1: going to make the ballot, And as of right now,
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Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure where they are about halfway to
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Speaker 1: the necessary amount to overcome any signature problem. So you
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Speaker 1: need what's five or four hundred thousand or three hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty thousand or so signatures? They need double that
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Speaker 1: to make sure that the ones they've collected are actually valid.
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Speaker 1: So roughly, don't hold me the specific numbers. It's a
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Speaker 1: moving target. But I just really I don't want it
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Speaker 1: the CINCINNI enquired Good morning, Scott Wortman. We'll talk about
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Speaker 1: the city budgets as I segue over to the capping
35:43
Speaker 1: Fort Washington away proposal, one that's been floating around for
35:46
Speaker 1: a while. Plus Judge Nitor Politano, a nation of suspects.
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Speaker 1: You are being surveiled in a country that's supposed to prevent,
35:53
Speaker 1: supposed to be protecting you from unreasonable searches and caizars. Yes,
35:58
Speaker 1: it is part of our constitution, and Judge to Polatano
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Speaker 1: was a proud defender of our Fourth Amendment rights. Sadly,
36:05
Speaker 1: our government isn't aligned with the thoughts and feelings of
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Speaker 1: Judge of Platano on that subject or me Capping Fort
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Speaker 1: Washington way, Okay, is there a list of city priorities.
36:21
Speaker 1: I mean, I keep hearing about affordable housing. I mean
36:24
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over again. I know
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Speaker 1: it's a city priority to fund non governmental organizations, so
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Speaker 1: all those council members in the americ can continue to
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Speaker 1: hold their jobs. Hey, this has been a proposal that's
36:35
Speaker 1: been floating around for apparently quite some time decades. In fact,
36:38
Speaker 1: according to Sidney Franklin's reporting from The Inquirer, capping Fort
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Speaker 1: Washington way sat a top that would mean number one
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Speaker 1: on the wish list of major projects. All right, local
36:50
Speaker 1: officials now waiting on news. They have submitted an application
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Speaker 1: for yes, federal money, a twenty five million dollar ask
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Speaker 1: from the federal government to put a cap over Fort Washington.
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Speaker 1: Why this is the idea of you gonna have a
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Speaker 1: green space, So you got a road at kind of
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Speaker 1: cap over it. You can turn that cap in anything
37:08
Speaker 1: you want. You can turn it into I guess housing,
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Speaker 1: you can turn it into a park, something that'll make
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Speaker 1: it look Joe, great, idea, we need another solar farm.
37:25
Speaker 1: You yeah, and you read my mind. Enquirer got a
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Speaker 1: copy of the Hamiline Counties most recent because a lot
37:35
Speaker 1: of other of them. The others have been shot down
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Speaker 1: so far. Most recent application that had it was submitted
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Speaker 1: in February to the US Department of Transportations Build All
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Speaker 1: Caps b WYLD Build Grant Program, which apparently adds out
37:47
Speaker 1: funds for infrastructure projects. This will be our fellow Americans
37:52
Speaker 1: in states far and wide, taxpayer dollars going into a
37:56
Speaker 1: grand program. So our elected officials in DC or who
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Speaker 1: whoever's in charge of dolling out these scarce taxpayer dollars
38:03
Speaker 1: can hand money over. How is it that your project
38:06
Speaker 1: gets awarded in someone else's does not good question? Go
38:09
Speaker 1: ahead and contemplate that one anyway. The County's Banks Public
38:16
Speaker 1: Partnership Phil Beck is the project executive there, and he's
38:21
Speaker 1: quoted in the inquire So let's give Phil Beck credit
38:23
Speaker 1: for his comments here. Worked with the City of Cincinnati
38:25
Speaker 1: the City Regional Chamber on the proposal. With the money,
38:28
Speaker 1: they want to make Second and Third Streets more pedestrian
38:33
Speaker 1: and bicycle friendly, build a one point two acre cap
38:39
Speaker 1: with a park and plaza over Fort Washington Way between
38:43
Speaker 1: Vine and Walnut Streets. And apparently, according to Phil Beck,
38:49
Speaker 1: everybody wants some of this build program money. Shocking literally
38:53
Speaker 1: no one. He called the programs dramatically oversubscribe. He said,
38:57
Speaker 1: the level of competition is really high, so it's pretty
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Speaker 1: common that you have to take a couple of swings
39:02
Speaker 1: at it, refining your vision until you get the money,
39:05
Speaker 1: or maybe you don't get the money. We haven't gotten
39:07
Speaker 1: the answer from the federal Government's Build Program whether or
39:09
Speaker 1: not they're going to throw twenty five million dollars at
39:11
Speaker 1: this effort. Question, if you've been paying any attention to
39:15
Speaker 1: the cost of building literally anything, how far do you
39:20
Speaker 1: think twenty five million dollars is going to go. Insofar
39:24
Speaker 1: as putting a cap over Fort Washington, Blay is concerned.
39:28
Speaker 1: Just kind of contemplate that for a moment anyway. According
39:31
Speaker 1: to Back, he thinks phased construction that approach bolsters the chances.
39:35
Speaker 1: In other words, I guess, don't ask for all of
39:38
Speaker 1: the money at once, just put an ask in for
39:41
Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars to deal with phase one of
39:44
Speaker 1: the project and made the federal Government's Build Program will
39:46
Speaker 1: throw the money at it. We'll see, he said. A
39:50
Speaker 1: new vision for the Banks could also strengthen the case
39:52
Speaker 1: for the federal grant. Released in April. The banks Urban
39:57
Speaker 1: design Plan Update initial cap on and all that that's
40:00
Speaker 1: a thing outlined the development standard for the Riverfront's five
40:04
Speaker 1: vacant lots. Caps over Fort Washington Way were added. According
40:09
Speaker 1: to Andrew Broderick of Chicago based design consultant Perkins, well,
40:13
Speaker 1: they're the ones that were I guess subcontracted out to
40:15
Speaker 1: do a proposal for this. Hey, let's put a cap
40:17
Speaker 1: over the banks, added as a way to capture the
40:21
Speaker 1: boldness of the plan. What does that mean, Joe, We
40:27
Speaker 1: gotta read on that one. Anywait, he said, We here's
40:33
Speaker 1: that word. We feel like this district can be successful
40:37
Speaker 1: including those, but it can can also be successful without those.
40:41
Speaker 1: In other words, if you get it, great, If you
40:43
Speaker 1: don't get it, everything's gonna go out, gonna go along
40:46
Speaker 1: swimmingly anyway. Anyway, he said they would drive real estate
40:50
Speaker 1: value on Third and Second Streets and would be a
40:51
Speaker 1: significant asset. Fair enough, according to the reporting from the inquiry,
40:57
Speaker 1: some agree. Are you ready for the list of people
40:59
Speaker 1: in law to put a cap over Fort Washington Way?
41:04
Speaker 1: Apparently the Hamilton County build Grand Application included letters of
41:08
Speaker 1: support from developers. Of course, it's a building project. Developers
41:13
Speaker 1: are going to want the money the city's professional sports
41:17
Speaker 1: teams Reds and Bengals going to benefit from a cap
41:22
Speaker 1: over Fort Washington Way. I can see how that could
41:24
Speaker 1: benefit them. It's a nice, big park from the river
41:27
Speaker 1: all the way to the business district. The Cincinnati Parks
41:31
Speaker 1: apparently submitted a letter of support Ohio Department of Transportation.
41:36
Speaker 1: And here we go politicians such as Democratic Representative Greg Lansman.
41:42
Speaker 1: And you think this becomes a part is an issue
41:44
Speaker 1: with Greg Landsman support, Oh no, no, pivot over also
41:47
Speaker 1: a letter of support from Republican Senator John Houston. Now
41:52
Speaker 1: it's suspected or expected that the grant announcements are going
41:55
Speaker 1: to be in late June. Whether or not we get
41:57
Speaker 1: the money will be known by then, the enquire acquiring
42:00
Speaker 1: the grant. Here's where we go. How far does twenty
42:02
Speaker 1: five million dollars go? First? To even get the grant,
42:08
Speaker 1: you need a twenty five million dollar local match. Don't
42:11
Speaker 1: look to the City of Cincinnati for that one. We're
42:13
Speaker 1: already twenty nine and a half million dollars in the hole.
42:16
Speaker 1: And we could go down that road, because of course,
42:20
Speaker 1: we've got to fund the Farmer Music Center over mostly
42:23
Speaker 1: in Anderson Township. Anyhow, accord to the application, the money
42:28
Speaker 1: could there's that word again, be assembled via state funding.
42:33
Speaker 1: And here's where the local taxpayers might get touched, local
42:37
Speaker 1: tax increment financing, Cincinnati Parks grants, a sales tax levy,
42:44
Speaker 1: or private fundraising. Joe, would you be willing to contribute
42:52
Speaker 1: a private donation for a cap over the banks? Happy birthday?
42:57
Speaker 1: My dad would say, Uh, okay, you know they didn't
43:01
Speaker 1: ask that since a symphony orchestra for any money, Joe,
43:04
Speaker 1: I didn't see that listed among the folks they can
43:06
Speaker 1: hit up for twenty five million dollars. Since the CSO
43:08
Speaker 1: is asking the city for money for its Farmer Music Center,
43:12
Speaker 1: it just seems like a logical maybe you know, reciprocal
43:15
Speaker 1: grant anyway, and I wouldn't wait for state funding, although
43:21
Speaker 1: remember they did give six hundred million dollars for the
43:23
Speaker 1: Browns Jay. That comment was for you, my friend. This
43:27
Speaker 1: is the county's fourth attempt to get money from the
43:29
Speaker 1: federal government for the Fort Washington Way. They've been at
43:32
Speaker 1: this multiple times since twenty twenty three. Now combine with
43:35
Speaker 1: a local match, assuming they could come up with the
43:37
Speaker 1: matching twenty five million dollars they need to even get
43:40
Speaker 1: the money from the FEDS that would be to complete
43:43
Speaker 1: phase one. Of course, you know I'm gonna think of
43:46
Speaker 1: South Park as you don't get to profit until phase three,
43:48
Speaker 1: Phase one. Phase one. There you are joke, And if
43:57
Speaker 1: I it were phase two, it is. Isn't all this
44:01
Speaker 1: right because that's where all the big money comes in
44:04
Speaker 1: phase two. You can't get profit until you spend fifty
44:07
Speaker 1: million dollars on phase one, Phase one, removing and replacing
44:11
Speaker 1: the bridge as plural at want in Vine Street. Also
44:17
Speaker 1: building a cap between those streets over Fort Washington away.
44:22
Speaker 1: That's your cap that creates a partial tunnel, which I
44:27
Speaker 1: have to take them at their word. The enquire says
44:29
Speaker 1: will require new ventilation, lighting, and safety systems to manage
44:32
Speaker 1: traffic and air quality beneath it. If the county gets
44:37
Speaker 1: the grant, construction could begin as soon as spring twenty
44:42
Speaker 1: twenty eight, wrap up by late fall twenty twenty nine. Joe,
44:44
Speaker 1: do you think this is akin to like the California
44:47
Speaker 1: High Speed Rail project? You can see the numbers building
44:51
Speaker 1: over time, you can see the project getting delayed over time.
44:54
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to be such so jaded and cynical about this,
44:56
Speaker 1: but yeah, we got money troubles in the city of Cincinnati.
44:59
Speaker 1: They keep talking about building new stuff and things when
45:02
Speaker 1: they can't even take care of the damn roads. We've
45:04
Speaker 1: already got frustration expressed by Brian Thomas in the form
45:08
Speaker 1: of his vocal tone this morning. Absolutely phase two and
45:18
Speaker 1: then you know, Inquiry even acknowledges this not as uh
45:23
Speaker 1: Sidney Franklin thing, which would require even more money. Phase
45:28
Speaker 1: two could include building a three point five acre cap
45:33
Speaker 1: between Vine and Race, a quarter acre cap west of
45:37
Speaker 1: Ray Street, and another quarter acre cap east of Walnut
45:41
Speaker 1: could and then again it might not. James on the phone,
45:47
Speaker 1: hang on, brother, I am out of time in this
45:49
Speaker 1: segment at six seventeen right now, and I want to
45:51
Speaker 1: mention note eggs because well the talk station just shy
45:56
Speaker 1: a six twenty four fifty five KRCD talk station. You're
45:58
Speaker 1: gonna head on over to the phone two three talk.
46:03
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the PHINNY five Kersey Morning Show in Mississippi. James,
46:06
Speaker 1: good to hear from you this morning, sir.
46:09
Speaker 5: Good morning doctor Brian. Come in Pete love everybody, and
46:13
Speaker 5: there's nothing you can do about it.
46:15
Speaker 1: Like the attitude all right now.
46:17
Speaker 5: I know radio can be entertained. But yesterday the bright
46:21
Speaker 5: bart guy, you know, that was the most incohestory, babbling
46:28
Speaker 5: words salad concerning the war, the cease war, whatever, ceasefire.
46:33
Speaker 1: You're referring to Nick Gilbertson's comment yesterday, Go ahead, what
46:36
Speaker 1: would you What did you find wrong about him?
46:38
Speaker 8: Man?
46:38
Speaker 5: He was trying hard. He had to stop between every
46:42
Speaker 5: word to try to say something to make this sound logical.
46:48
Speaker 5: You know, to me, I look at it as the
46:50
Speaker 5: emperor have no clothes on, and we still don't know
46:53
Speaker 5: the reason for being over in the war and why
46:56
Speaker 5: we are there as a nation. What the spind he
47:01
Speaker 5: tried to put on it yesterday was just babbling in cohension,
47:05
Speaker 5: in cohensions, word salad to me. Their own opinion.
47:11
Speaker 1: Yes, listen, you're a ton of your opinion.
47:14
Speaker 5: I'm not.
47:14
Speaker 1: I didn't find it, you know, totally incoherent. But we
47:17
Speaker 1: find ourselves in a bit of a sticky wiga with
47:19
Speaker 1: the Iranian situation. I think Donald Trump thought it was
47:21
Speaker 1: going to be over like in a couple of minutes.
47:23
Speaker 1: I'm joking with with this with the timeframe, but he
47:26
Speaker 1: did suggest a very short period of time. I think
47:28
Speaker 1: he proceeded to be like Venezuela, go in, chop the
47:30
Speaker 1: head off, everything falls into place, we win, we pull out. No,
47:34
Speaker 1: that's clearly not it. I don't think anybody necessarily factored
47:37
Speaker 1: in the religious element enough, because once you factor in religion,
47:41
Speaker 1: if your entire theocracy, well, of course the theocracy is
47:44
Speaker 1: predicated on religion. These are deeply held convictions. Christians. Ask yourself,
47:49
Speaker 1: if someone told you to renounce Jesus Christ, would that
47:52
Speaker 1: be an easy sell for you? Of course not. So
47:55
Speaker 1: You've got territory, tradition, you've got religion, You've got a
47:58
Speaker 1: million Hell, they put a theocracy see in place in
48:00
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine. I guess there are enough religious zelots
48:03
Speaker 1: out there to cause that to happen. Yeah, it's I
48:06
Speaker 1: don't know what I there's nothing good that's coming out
48:09
Speaker 1: of it right now. Question though, and this is what
48:13
Speaker 1: I always say, everybody hates the Iranians, all the Middle
48:15
Speaker 1: Eastern countries. Don't like the instability they bring about. They
48:17
Speaker 1: don't like the terrorist action. It ruins business in the neighborhood.
48:22
Speaker 1: They've been looking for place three years. Get rid of
48:24
Speaker 1: the Iranians and things will fall into place nicely. The
48:27
Speaker 1: problem is it ain't easy to get rid of the Iranians.
48:30
Speaker 1: We're finding that out. And you know, I don't even
48:31
Speaker 1: know if Iranian Supreme leaders in the loop on this.
48:34
Speaker 1: I just saw his statements from yesterday talking about death
48:37
Speaker 1: to America, eradication of Israel. Doesn't sound like he's got
48:40
Speaker 1: the memo that we're sitting down at a peace negotiation table.
48:42
Speaker 1: So yeah, it it well boiled down. I think we
48:47
Speaker 1: can go to my military to fall phrase. It's a
48:49
Speaker 1: Charlie foxtrot.
48:50
Speaker 5: James, Yeah, yeah, And I think he was told he
48:54
Speaker 5: was the oldest by some of the generals that either
48:57
Speaker 5: resign that removed. Whatever. I think he was told about this,
49:01
Speaker 5: you know, wouldn't go is the way he thought it would.
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Speaker 1: Well, And I asked Daniel Davis about that James specifically,
49:09
Speaker 1: did anybody anticipate the Iranians closing the straight of horror?
49:12
Speaker 1: Mouz And he's seen to be thoroughly convinced based on
49:15
Speaker 1: his inside military sources, that absolutely they brought that up.
49:19
Speaker 1: So I don't know who's right on that. All I
49:21
Speaker 1: know is the Iranians closed the straight of horror moves
49:23
Speaker 1: bringing about global problems, global problems one country, the thorn
49:28
Speaker 1: in everybody's side, the Iranians. So yes, we wanted to
49:31
Speaker 1: get rid of him. Did we have an appropriate predicate
49:33
Speaker 1: for launching war. I've been on the side of no.
49:35
Speaker 1: We didn't have congressional involvement. There was no declaration of war,
49:38
Speaker 1: there wasn't an authorization to use of military force. And
49:40
Speaker 1: the reason I'm in favor of that type of thing
49:43
Speaker 1: happening before a president can launch a war. And this
49:45
Speaker 1: goes for presidents Democrat and republic Republican, because conversation brings
49:50
Speaker 1: up the challenges that we might face when we decide
49:53
Speaker 1: to launch a military exercise. Maybe if our congressional officials
49:57
Speaker 1: talked about it, they would have said, well, wait a second,
50:00
Speaker 1: can't Iran close down the Strait of Hormuz? What problems
50:03
Speaker 1: might come from that? Let's talk about it. Let's weigh
50:07
Speaker 1: the options of the pluses and minuses of going to war. Yes,
50:10
Speaker 1: we all can agree we don't like the Iranians. They've
50:12
Speaker 1: been a thorn in our side. They're murderers, they are
50:14
Speaker 1: sponsors of terrorism, they are a problem for the globe.
50:18
Speaker 1: That's no argument. The question is one, do we have
50:23
Speaker 1: the offen should we launch a war and what might
50:27
Speaker 1: come if we do and will it be worth the
50:31
Speaker 1: downside if we do it. We won't know the answer
50:35
Speaker 1: to the latter question until the whole thing's resolved. But
50:38
Speaker 1: it looking more and more like today that Donald Trump
50:41
Speaker 1: may make some concessions that he didn't sound like he
50:43
Speaker 1: was willing to make five or so minutes ago. But
50:48
Speaker 1: every time we wake up to the new news cycle,
50:50
Speaker 1: we see the wash rents repeat reality of what's going on.
50:53
Speaker 1: I'm going to blow them up, but I'm putting it
50:55
Speaker 1: on pause. We're talking with the neuron's, we're talking with
50:58
Speaker 1: the Iranian negotiation fotiators. Were one step closer to peace.
51:01
Speaker 1: We've got to sign peace deal. Oh that's right, No,
51:04
Speaker 1: we don't. I'm as confused as anybody on this six
51:06
Speaker 1: twenty eight fifty five kr Seed DE talk station. Maybe
51:09
Speaker 1: you're not, feel free to give me a call and
51:10
Speaker 1: talk about it otherwise. Pivoting over the local stories after
51:13
Speaker 1: I mentioned greg Luster Gregory six thirty three fifty five
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Speaker 1: care Seed DE Talk Station IBY Wednesday, coming up after
51:29
Speaker 1: the top of their news Thank god. Jack aden In
51:31
Speaker 1: returns a Big Picture with Jack Addan one hour from now,
51:33
Speaker 1: Dinald and Neil Americans for Prosperity to be one small
51:35
Speaker 1: step campaign. He'll explain that to us in an hour.
51:38
Speaker 1: Scott Wartman on the city budget, sorry, and Judge Ennapolitano
51:43
Speaker 1: on the Fourth Amendment or lack thereof. Let us see
51:47
Speaker 1: here some residents in the North Side. This is local stories.
51:52
Speaker 1: Judge Strecker reminded me at the top of this article
51:55
Speaker 1: with his scrawl eighty five to one voted for a
51:57
Speaker 1: f tab perval in the area North Side. Apparently car
52:01
Speaker 1: break ins are a real problem there and they want
52:03
Speaker 1: something done about it. Let's see here. Logan was interviewed,
52:07
Speaker 1: lives in a neighborhood. He says, this is the third
52:10
Speaker 1: time in six months his car has been broken into.
52:12
Speaker 1: That's a bit frustrating you. One of the reasons my
52:15
Speaker 1: sister who left the state of Ohio for Florida, believe
52:17
Speaker 1: it or not, she left over the Rhine in her
52:22
Speaker 1: urban hipster condo because for a variety of reasons, her
52:27
Speaker 1: car got smashed into several times. That's not cool. And
52:32
Speaker 1: finally you get to the point where you're exasperated and
52:34
Speaker 1: you leave. That sounds to me like where Logan is
52:36
Speaker 1: in this story. I don't know if you can afford
52:37
Speaker 1: to move out of the North Side, But he said,
52:38
Speaker 1: since I've lived here, it's been three in the past
52:40
Speaker 1: six months pretty bad. In the past six months, I've
52:42
Speaker 1: had four windows broken. I've had my car gone through
52:45
Speaker 1: when I didn't lock it. I think three other times.
52:49
Speaker 1: He says he's spent eight years in the neighborhood. In
52:50
Speaker 1: the last six months have been the worst. So things
52:53
Speaker 1: are getting bad in terms of property crime. Happened on
52:56
Speaker 1: Saturday morning, say, a shattered car window when he saw
52:58
Speaker 1: his car file a police report. District three officials confirmed
53:02
Speaker 1: they did get it. You think they've got a team
53:05
Speaker 1: of detectives working on that one. Joe channeling Big Lebowski
53:09
Speaker 1: for Big Lebowski friends on that one. Logan City tracks
53:12
Speaker 1: reports on the Citizen app, which allows subscribers to see
53:15
Speaker 1: real time alerts and incident updates. He said he feels
53:18
Speaker 1: like there's a pattern of crime in the area. Easy
53:22
Speaker 1: to conclude that one said, it's like five hundred dollars
53:25
Speaker 1: for him every time it happens. Northside got a property
53:28
Speaker 1: prime crop problem. Well, I suppose if you're trying to
53:33
Speaker 1: be optimistic in how you look at it. At least
53:37
Speaker 1: he didn't get shot. I guess stick out more to
53:42
Speaker 1: talk about. Phone calls are welcome, got other stories to
53:45
Speaker 1: go to the talk station. It's six forty here a
53:50
Speaker 1: fifty five kc detalk station. Bryan Thomas wishing everyone a
53:52
Speaker 1: very happy Wednesday, and imitation to stick around. Certainly use
53:56
Speaker 1: some help this morning. I get it. After the top
53:58
Speaker 1: of the air news a Big Picture with Jack in
54:00
Speaker 1: the fall of Great Cities, and we'll also hear from
54:02
Speaker 1: Donald and Neil on the One Small Step campaign coming
54:04
Speaker 1: up at seven thirty seven fifty eight hundred eight two
54:07
Speaker 1: three talk. If you want to chime in on what's
54:09
Speaker 1: going on here locally or on any other story that's
54:11
Speaker 1: going on. Doctor Memnon Oz showing up with Governor Mike
54:14
Speaker 1: DeWine the other day. We're talking about fraud in the
54:16
Speaker 1: state of Ohio. Some believe it hasn't it doesn't exist.
54:20
Speaker 1: I think by now we all believe it absolutely exists
54:22
Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio, and in big, big numbers.
54:27
Speaker 1: So houses a White House's Medicare and Medicaid administrator. Oz
54:31
Speaker 1: standing there with Governor de Wine yesterday and he had
54:33
Speaker 1: this to say, we believe Ohio, as almost every state,
54:37
Speaker 1: can do a better job with the guardrails around home healthcare, Medicaid,
54:42
Speaker 1: home healthcare, your family members getting paid to help make
54:45
Speaker 1: your bet. That's the way I boil it down. Anyway,
54:49
Speaker 1: he was with the Wine in Dublin, Ohio. The Wine
54:51
Speaker 1: and his team continue to deny any widespread issue and
54:55
Speaker 1: claim he's been on top of all these problems. Well,
54:57
Speaker 1: he's been on top of them since the Daily Wire
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Speaker 1: report about all the fraud that's been going on here
55:01
Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio now for years. Fraud that
55:03
Speaker 1: was identified by our auditor back in twenty twenty four
55:06
Speaker 1: looking at twenty twenty two numbers and found all kinds
55:09
Speaker 1: of problems with it. Electronic verification was turned off at
55:12
Speaker 1: some juncture, even though federal law required it. Who in
55:14
Speaker 1: the hell made that decision? Why was it made? You've
55:16
Speaker 1: got guardrails that were there based on a twenty sixteen
55:20
Speaker 1: federal law. Huh, and yet you didn't leave them in place.
55:28
Speaker 1: Someone's got to be held accountable accountable for this. One
55:33
Speaker 1: of our locals reported asked, doctor Oz, do you trust
55:37
Speaker 1: the Wine to oversee the program in Ohio? Do you
55:39
Speaker 1: think there has been a widespread fraud? Doctor mendon oz
55:43
Speaker 1: i trust Governor de Wine. Huh is that you trust
55:51
Speaker 1: your ex wife?
55:52
Speaker 6: Joe?
55:52
Speaker 1: Is that what you just said, like you trust your
55:55
Speaker 1: ex wife? Well, I'm just staring at this, this scrawl
55:57
Speaker 1: at the top of the page. Is this your handwriting?
56:01
Speaker 1: Doctor Oz is high as a blanking kite? Oh okay,
56:06
Speaker 1: Joe Checker actually took responsibility for that. Let's pivot over
56:09
Speaker 1: to the I've been waiting for this call. We need
56:11
Speaker 1: to have a new Hamilton County Republican Party chair. Welcome
56:15
Speaker 1: back west Side, Jim. You've been following this one really closely.
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Speaker 1: You were there for the vote.
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Speaker 10: Oh, Brian, I'm a little tired. So if my mumbling
56:24
Speaker 10: gets a little rough this morning, I am.
56:26
Speaker 1: Having a struggling day. Brother, I am, and I apologize
56:29
Speaker 1: for it. I'm just acknowledging that, yes, every single day
56:31
Speaker 1: there's a possibility of a struggle, and you and I
56:34
Speaker 1: can join together in the struggle.
56:36
Speaker 10: Well, you know, I listening yesterday to the radio and
56:40
Speaker 10: I was driving.
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Speaker 7: I couldn't write it down.
56:42
Speaker 10: But they make a drug now that is good for
56:45
Speaker 10: the fog of cancer treatments. Oh really Yeah, they said
56:50
Speaker 10: it's one hundred percent effective.
56:53
Speaker 7: So you might want to maybe check into that little.
56:55
Speaker 1: Google search for something. I would definitely do that. I'm
56:58
Speaker 1: just probably have to run through about forty five minute
57:00
Speaker 1: it's worth of risks associated with taking whatever drug that is,
57:03
Speaker 1: including don't take the drug if you're allergic to it.
57:06
Speaker 1: Anybody have you ever been to figure that one out? Jim?
57:08
Speaker 1: How do you know if you're allergic to a pharmaceutical
57:10
Speaker 1: until you take it? Got that?
57:13
Speaker 10: I mean, they make a drug and and there's the
57:16
Speaker 10: things that are behind it is incredible, and it almost
57:20
Speaker 10: scares you to take asperin sometimes. In fact, you can't
57:23
Speaker 10: take esperant in some cases.
57:27
Speaker 7: But no, it was.
57:27
Speaker 10: There was two fractions last night for and there was
57:31
Speaker 10: there was a down vote also for like secretary vice
57:34
Speaker 10: chairman and.
57:35
Speaker 1: You're referral body. Just by way of context for those
57:38
Speaker 1: not familiar with it, it was the Hamilton kind of
57:40
Speaker 1: Republican party chair, right, that was the race. Bob Rowman
57:44
Speaker 1: was one choice, and Josh Kirth was another former Anderson
57:46
Speaker 1: Township trustee Josh Girth right, correct.
57:49
Speaker 10: And Josh Garth comes to when whenever you have a
57:52
Speaker 10: listener lunch at Anderson Pub, He's always been there. Oh yeah,
57:55
Speaker 10: so I'm sure he's going to be on radio soon.
57:59
Speaker 10: Joe's going to be on that good and he'll be
58:01
Speaker 10: He'll be in Anderson Pub next week along with me.
58:05
Speaker 7: I definitely will definitely be there.
58:07
Speaker 1: That that's what it takes. Man who hasn't showed to
58:09
Speaker 1: be listening to lunch now for how many months? Always
58:12
Speaker 1: looking over my shoulder for west Side Jim to come
58:14
Speaker 1: walk into the door. I guess I needed Josh Girth there. Okay,
58:18
Speaker 1: all right, Well I I.
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Speaker 7: Was in Campgirth and it turned out really well. Like
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Speaker 7: I said it was.
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Speaker 10: It was one thirty to ninety five, and I'm glad
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Speaker 10: it turned out that way. I mean, both of them
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Speaker 10: hit decent ideas, of course, and not going to get
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Speaker 10: nothing against the ex judge, but he's just he's my age,
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Speaker 10: and we just needed new blood and we needed some
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Speaker 10: younger blood and and somebody that can unite the party
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Speaker 10: and bring in people that can.
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Speaker 7: Both donate. That's a big thing is money.
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Speaker 10: The one thing I had a with the judge was
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Speaker 10: he was going to move our headquarters from downtown, which
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Speaker 10: I don't have a problem movement, but he was going
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Speaker 10: to put it into a shopping center, and I kept
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Speaker 10: thinking of District five yeah, so I didn't like that
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Speaker 10: itl whatsoever. But mister Pappus got up and spoke. He
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Speaker 10: had a lot of lightning ideas. He was the first
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Speaker 10: one to speak and give Josh a rounding ovation of
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Speaker 10: his success. And Josh explained about losing the vote by
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Speaker 10: I think one hundred and sixteen or something like that
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Speaker 10: out of Anderson Township for trustee after holding it for
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Speaker 10: all those years.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's go to the heart of the matter. How
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Speaker 1: does one and you know now that Josh Garth is
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Speaker 1: in charge of Hamilton County Republican Party, how does he
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Speaker 1: turn around the falling numbers of people willing to contribute
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Speaker 1: to the Hamilton Kunty Republican Party, which has been I
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Speaker 1: would say out loud, suspiciously absent from a lot of races.
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Speaker 1: We don't hear about him. Where are the Republican Party
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Speaker 1: in connection with Hamilton County races? Who are they supporting?
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's as if it's a non existent entity.
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Speaker 1: What kind of return on your dollar contribution to the
1:00:07
Speaker 1: Hamlin counter part of republic Republican Party do you actually get?
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Speaker 1: I would question that out loud, and I want to
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Speaker 1: know how they can write that.
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Speaker 7: Ship Well, that is a tough one.
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Speaker 10: And that's what that's what he is the salesman for.
1:00:19
Speaker 10: He has to get the people, the money people and
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Speaker 10: the doers and the shakers and the movers and everybody
1:00:24
Speaker 10: else to chime in and actually write a check and
1:00:29
Speaker 10: get this thing moving. And I know, just take a
1:00:32
Speaker 10: moss of powers. I mean, she had three point two
1:00:34
Speaker 10: million dollars and couldn't win over that race.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a.
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Speaker 10: Tough one to pull over in this county. But that's
1:00:41
Speaker 10: what the electors we got him in there for, is
1:00:45
Speaker 10: because our trust is behind him to bring it home.
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Speaker 10: I mean, I don't I don't know. I don't have
1:00:51
Speaker 10: the answer to that, Brian. I don't think anybody has
1:00:52
Speaker 10: the answer except we got to keep trying. And it
1:00:55
Speaker 10: starts with he brought up the fact of school boards.
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Speaker 10: You know, I don't it sounds goofy, but a lot
1:01:01
Speaker 10: of the school board members turn into trustees, and then
1:01:04
Speaker 10: a trustees turn into say a council person or whatever.
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Speaker 1: That's where you get your quote unquote new blood from.
1:01:10
Speaker 1: They get a little name recognition by being a board
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Speaker 1: member and then work their way up the political ladder.
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Speaker 1: That's I think, sir tried and true method.
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Speaker 7: It was a good night, crowded.
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Speaker 10: It was probably a total of about two hundred and
1:01:24
Speaker 10: fifty people there, counting the people that worked it and
1:01:28
Speaker 10: so forth, the volunteers who did a great job. But
1:01:31
Speaker 10: it was a tough night, and there was a couple
1:01:34
Speaker 10: of disagreements on the Roberts rules and stuff like that,
1:01:38
Speaker 10: which are always is in those kind of events. But
1:01:41
Speaker 10: I'm just happy for Josh Earth, and I'm happy for
1:01:43
Speaker 10: the party.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm glad you are, and congratulations Josh Earth. I
1:01:46
Speaker 1: could keep my fingers crossed that you can make him
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Speaker 1: on kind of Republican party work and work to the well.
1:01:52
Speaker 1: The constituents benefit. Need to get good candidates, says Joe Strecker. Yes,
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Speaker 1: maybe they'll come from a school board. Joe west Side, Jim,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for calling this morning, and thanks
1:02:02
Speaker 1: for your constant activism in Hamilton County politics. He has
1:02:07
Speaker 1: not left the county. West Side Jim is remaining in
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Speaker 1: the first Wednesday of June. That will be the third
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Speaker 1: of June. I hope I can see you there. Apparently
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Speaker 1: Josh Gurt's going to be there. Good morning, Josh Kirth,
1:02:35
Speaker 1: and congratulations on your victory winning the chair of the
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Speaker 1: Hamilton County Republican Party. I look forward to having him
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Speaker 1: on the program to talk about that and really how
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Speaker 1: you write the ship of what's going on with the
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Speaker 1: Hamilton County Republican Party. It is frustrating, and I share
1:02:48
Speaker 1: the frustrations because I do live in Hamilton County and
1:02:50
Speaker 1: the sea that turns so blue. Over my lifetime. You know,
1:02:55
Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember when back when we had
1:02:57
Speaker 1: at least the opportunity for Republicans on Cincinnati City Council.
1:03:01
Speaker 1: It wasn't that long ago. We at least had Amy
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Speaker 1: Murray and Liz Keating gone of those days. Liz Powers
1:03:09
Speaker 1: not Hamilton County prosecutor. What do we have now, prosecutor's office.
1:03:13
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem really zealous about convicting criminals. We have
1:03:17
Speaker 1: certainly the judiciary here in Hamilton County gone full on leftists.
1:03:21
Speaker 1: You can't even get someone with a bond anymore unrecognizance
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Speaker 1: or even the worst defenders. I don't know. I share
1:03:29
Speaker 1: the frustration, I truly do, and I'm praying for Josh
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Speaker 1: Girth that he can right the ship. But it is
1:03:35
Speaker 1: a tough ask given the current status in Hamilton County.
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Speaker 1: I mean, how likely is someone willing to be willing
1:03:41
Speaker 1: to write a check to go to the Hamilton Kuty
1:03:44
Speaker 1: Republican Party And how will that money, to the extend
1:03:46
Speaker 1: it even comes in, how will it be allocated? Tough
1:03:50
Speaker 1: questions for Josh Garth, But you know you got to
1:03:52
Speaker 1: give him props for having a spine to step up
1:03:55
Speaker 1: to the plate and take on those challenges. So again, congratulations,
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Speaker 1: don't go because after the top of the our News,
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Speaker 1: it's time for the Big Picture with Jack Athden always brilliant,
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Speaker 1: Jack evident, Donovan Neil with Americans for Prosperity. We'll be
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Speaker 1: Scott Wartman from the enquire We're gonna walk through the
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati City budget, with Scott also going to ask him
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Speaker 1: about the twenty five million dollars we're seeking from the
1:04:21
Speaker 1: federal government to cap the the Fort Washington Way. I'm sorry,
1:04:26
Speaker 1: I find that comical given the endless list of demands
1:04:31
Speaker 1: from the city of Cincinnati. Let's put a cap over
1:04:34
Speaker 1: the Fort Washington Way. That's gonna be an eight h five,
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Speaker 1: so don't go away. Big Picture with Jack Edden coming
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Speaker 1: out at the top of the hour. Here the top
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Speaker 1: time for the Big Picture with Jack Atherdan, Jack my friend,
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Speaker 1: welcome back to the fifty five Carse Morning Show, Saving
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Speaker 1: me from myself. Good to hear from you as always.
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Speaker 4: No last time we spoke, you and Joe were both
1:05:05
Speaker 4: taking it on the chin health wise, but this morning
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Speaker 4: you sound like you're in the pink.
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Speaker 1: Well. I actually I feel like I'm in a good mood,
1:05:11
Speaker 1: but I've been really struggling, struggling cognitively. Jack, I ate
1:05:15
Speaker 1: this chemo brain thing. Even Jim Keefer brought it up.
1:05:19
Speaker 1: I don't know it's the cumulative effect of the months
1:05:22
Speaker 1: of treatments, but it's very very noticeable to me, and
1:05:27
Speaker 1: it's very disturbing to me, very unsettling. In some days
1:05:30
Speaker 1: I'm better than others, and today I just my brain
1:05:33
Speaker 1: is not really working with me and cooperating with me.
1:05:36
Speaker 1: And I always feel like I need to apologize because
1:05:38
Speaker 1: that's at least that's how I feel personally. Whether it
1:05:40
Speaker 1: comes through that way, I never quite know. My wife says, oh,
1:05:43
Speaker 1: shut up and quit talking about it. It's like Jesus,
1:05:45
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just just again trying to come up
1:05:48
Speaker 1: and struggling to get words out of my mouth. So
1:05:50
Speaker 1: I'm having one of those days, Jack, and I have
1:05:53
Speaker 1: to apologize for it. Whether or not it sounds like
1:05:55
Speaker 1: I'm feeling that way. I literally am so thank you
1:05:57
Speaker 1: for being on the show, because you never have problems
1:06:00
Speaker 1: organizing your thoughts, Jack Well, speaking of.
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Speaker 4: A different kind of pink pinkos, Amesley and I just
1:06:08
Speaker 4: visited family in our old hometown, New York. New York,
1:06:13
Speaker 4: what used to be called the capital of free enterprise,
1:06:17
Speaker 4: is now the first big city run by an avowed Marxist,
1:06:20
Speaker 4: and that got me thinking about the rise and fall
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Speaker 4: of great cities. The big apples still glitters for now.
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Speaker 4: We had a ball. But Manhattan is excuse me choking
1:06:34
Speaker 4: on the fumes of business owners big and small hauling
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Speaker 4: off to the new New York Miami. When I was
1:06:42
Speaker 4: a kid in the nineteen fifties, Miami was a sleepy
1:06:44
Speaker 4: town nestled between the beach and the alligators. Today, downtown
1:06:50
Speaker 4: Miami looks like the Emerald City of Oz. That's thanks
1:06:54
Speaker 4: to legal Cuban refugees. Castro kicked them out, lawyer, engineers, entrepreneurs.
1:07:02
Speaker 4: So these anti communists fled to Miami with nothing. Before
1:07:07
Speaker 4: there was welfare, much less welfare fraud. They worked as
1:07:11
Speaker 4: bell hops and waiters. My family is, you know, had
1:07:14
Speaker 4: a summer business, so we took winter vacations on Miami Beach.
1:07:19
Speaker 4: I remember a bell hop, Brian, suggesting I cure a
1:07:22
Speaker 4: sore throat by swimming in the ocean. My mom thought
1:07:27
Speaker 4: he was nuts, but this man actually was a Cuban
1:07:30
Speaker 4: doctor trying to get recertified in the US. Decades later,
1:07:35
Speaker 4: when I worked on Miami TV, a cameraman told me
1:07:39
Speaker 4: how his dad, a doctor who used to bell hoop
1:07:42
Speaker 4: at the old Crown Hotel, had passed away, still dreaming
1:07:47
Speaker 4: of a free Cuba. So think of it Brian, New
1:07:50
Speaker 4: York's communist mayor is now chasing people down to Miami,
1:07:54
Speaker 4: a city built by refugees from communism. Still, Florida better
1:08:00
Speaker 4: not get too smug because it could sink into the
1:08:03
Speaker 4: swamp again. Just eight years ago, in the race for governor,
1:08:08
Speaker 4: pro capitalist Ron DeSantis edged out leftist Andrew Gillim, but
1:08:14
Speaker 4: just thirty thousand votes out of eight million cast. Democrat media,
1:08:19
Speaker 4: of course, covered up Gillam's financial and sexual scandals until
1:08:24
Speaker 4: after the election. Had the Democrat one, Florida would have
1:08:29
Speaker 4: become Gavin news Comes California, not Greg Abbott's Texas. Throughout history,
1:08:35
Speaker 4: which is what you and I kick around every week,
1:08:38
Speaker 4: cities and entire civilizations have risen and then bit the dust. Literally.
1:08:44
Speaker 4: They never imagine that can happen, but it does if
1:08:48
Speaker 4: patriots don't defend and renew what made them great. My
1:08:52
Speaker 4: favorite ancient city is one nobody ever talks about it anymore.
1:08:55
Speaker 4: I love it because I love libraries. It was founded
1:09:00
Speaker 4: by a kid, Alexander the Great Age twenty four conquered decadent,
1:09:06
Speaker 4: decrepit Egypt. Like New York with its empire state building,
1:09:11
Speaker 4: Alexander's new city Alexandria lit up the night sky with
1:09:15
Speaker 4: a giant lighthouse, immediately dubbed one of the seven Wonders
1:09:20
Speaker 4: of the World. Alexandria was even more honored for its library,
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Speaker 4: said to be the greatest in the history of the world.
1:09:28
Speaker 4: Still less than two hundred years after Alexander the Great
1:09:32
Speaker 4: conquered the land of the Pharaohs, Julius Caesar conquered it again.
1:09:37
Speaker 4: Mighty Egypt the Usa of its day, it didn't put
1:09:42
Speaker 4: up much of a fight.
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Speaker 6: It couldn't.
1:09:44
Speaker 4: By then, Egypt's religion was just a husk of itself.
1:09:48
Speaker 4: Its government was fatally divided between supporters of Cleopatra and
1:09:53
Speaker 4: her kid brother Tolliby, and Egypt refused to unite against enemies.
1:10:00
Speaker 4: Library remained, but only until Roman troops accidentally burned it
1:10:04
Speaker 4: to the ground. Julius Caesar, who was an author himself,
1:10:08
Speaker 4: grieved over that, Yet ironically Brian. One reason the Roman
1:10:13
Speaker 4: Empire also declined, fell and became a cow pasture is
1:10:19
Speaker 4: that the emperors never tried to educate their people. Like Egypt,
1:10:23
Speaker 4: Rome descended into ignorance, corruption, and internal strife. Does this
1:10:29
Speaker 4: sound familiar. So called barbarians who crossed Rome's borders, primarily
1:10:35
Speaker 4: from the North Germanic tribes. They plunged Europe into the
1:10:39
Speaker 4: dark ages that lasted five hundred years. The great blessing
1:10:44
Speaker 4: is that a new and vital religion, Christianity, rose from
1:10:48
Speaker 4: Rome's ashes monasteries, aided, as we have discussed before, by
1:10:53
Speaker 4: Jewish and Muslim scholars, secretly preserved past learning, and became
1:10:58
Speaker 4: a light that shone brighter than the lifehouse of Alexandria.
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Speaker 6: Folks.
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Speaker 4: In this two hundred and fiftieth year of our independence,
1:11:07
Speaker 4: America faces the same challenges ancient Egypt and Rome did,
1:11:13
Speaker 4: So why not learn from them while there's still time?
1:11:16
Speaker 4: Why not avoid sliding into decline. The capital of world capitalism,
1:11:22
Speaker 4: New York City must not re elect a communist mayor
1:11:26
Speaker 4: this November. Florida Congressman Byron Donald's must succeed Ron DeSantis's
1:11:32
Speaker 4: governor and keep the Sunshine State a magnet for economic growth.
1:11:36
Speaker 4: And just five months from now, Ohio must save itself
1:11:41
Speaker 4: from our own woke socialist cities, including Cincinnati and Dayton,
1:11:46
Speaker 4: by electing not another Rhino, not another do nothing Republican
1:11:51
Speaker 4: like Mike DeWine, but a dynamic conservative, the Vike Ramaswami
1:11:56
Speaker 4: will help make our state, and I hope Kentucky and
1:11:59
Speaker 4: Indiana come along as well. Make them all another Florida.
1:12:04
Speaker 4: Brian as All blue Eyes, a Democrat turned Republican, saying
1:12:09
Speaker 4: about New York, New York, start spreading the news only
1:12:14
Speaker 4: free enterprise and freedom from big Apple, big government. We'll
1:12:19
Speaker 4: keep Americans thriving for another two hundred and fifty years.
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Speaker 3: What do you say?
1:12:24
Speaker 1: I say, you know you're You're a dead on, You're
1:12:26
Speaker 1: dead right, and you went. It's seven twenty eight to
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Speaker 1: fifty five car ce De Talk Station. We always do
1:12:33
Speaker 1: this on Wednesdays. What is this talking with Donovan and
1:12:37
Speaker 1: Neil from Americans for Prosperity with his state director for
1:12:39
Speaker 1: AFP Action in Ohio, hat On. Welcome back, Donald and
1:12:42
Speaker 1: Neil's always pleasure having in the fifty five Case Morning show,
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Speaker 1: my friend, best way.
1:12:46
Speaker 3: To start a Wednesday morning. I gotta say, well.
1:12:48
Speaker 1: I appreciate you saying that. That's very kind of you,
1:12:50
Speaker 1: and I'm glad you share my enthusiasm for talking about
1:12:53
Speaker 1: these important issues in Ohio and getting people involved from
1:12:56
Speaker 1: my listening audience. They can do that. Afpaction dot Com.
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Speaker 1: Just fill up the form and let Donovan and the
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Speaker 1: crew get in touch with you and put you to
1:13:03
Speaker 1: work on some level in somewhere or another one small
1:13:06
Speaker 1: step campaigns. What I got on my notes page? What's
1:13:09
Speaker 1: this all about, Donovan?
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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, we're bringing a major tour to Ohio, big
1:13:15
Speaker 11: event June twenty second, up in Columbus, and we're getting
1:13:20
Speaker 11: we're just getting the word out and beginning to put
1:13:22
Speaker 11: the speakers list together. But it will be an evening,
1:13:24
Speaker 11: a celebration of our great nation alongside of Americans for Prosperity,
1:13:28
Speaker 11: Concerned Veterans for America, and the LIBRA Initiative. And so
1:13:32
Speaker 11: I wanted to come on your show make sure your
1:13:34
Speaker 11: listeners know about it and have the opportunity to get tickets.
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Speaker 7: Well while we still have them.
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Speaker 1: That's great. So this is truly America two hundred and
1:13:42
Speaker 1: fiftieth anniversary party.
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Speaker 11: Then, yeah, exactly, And you know it's very your listeners
1:13:48
Speaker 11: who dial in every tune in every Wednesday. Know, we
1:13:51
Speaker 11: do a lot here. We do politics, we do policy,
1:13:53
Speaker 11: we do grassroots advocacy. What this event that is going
1:13:56
Speaker 11: to be about is celebrating the great Americans who have
1:14:00
Speaker 11: come before us, each of them taking one small step
1:14:03
Speaker 11: that helped lead us to this great point in time,
1:14:05
Speaker 11: that is two hundred and fifty years of the greatest
1:14:08
Speaker 11: nation on earth. And so you know, we'll be celebrating
1:14:10
Speaker 11: those folks like many of your listeners right who do
1:14:14
Speaker 11: good in their community, who make a difference, and recognize
1:14:19
Speaker 11: those folks from the main stage of this event. So
1:14:21
Speaker 11: it's going to be more about patriotism, about that American spirit,
1:14:24
Speaker 11: about that, you know, those ideals that make this country
1:14:27
Speaker 11: so great as much as anything else.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really worries me that that doesn't seem to
1:14:32
Speaker 1: be a great sense of patriotism. Maybe it's just me
1:14:35
Speaker 1: getting old, you know, back in my day, we used
1:14:37
Speaker 1: to you know, probably, I just there's so much division
1:14:41
Speaker 1: in this country, and I think it's we're being intentionally divided,
1:14:44
Speaker 1: both from forces inside and out, and I think it's
1:14:47
Speaker 1: all designed to just undermine the fabric of America. There
1:14:51
Speaker 1: was always something that Americans collectively could rally around. Donovan.
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Speaker 1: It seems to me that anything we used to be
1:14:58
Speaker 1: able to rally around has been undermined by some divisive
1:15:02
Speaker 1: force regardless of which direction you look at, and nothing
1:15:06
Speaker 1: unifies this anymore. I mean, I used to sort of
1:15:09
Speaker 1: reference the flag itself. I don't care what political stripe
1:15:12
Speaker 1: you are. At least you could look at the flag
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Speaker 1: and say, hey, at least in America, I can speak
1:15:16
Speaker 1: my mind. I've got freedoms and liberties that no other
1:15:18
Speaker 1: country enjoys. In spite of the fact that I hate
1:15:20
Speaker 1: that guy over there and he's my enemy, We're all
1:15:24
Speaker 1: united under one collective thing we can call freedom that
1:15:28
Speaker 1: doesn't even seem to exist anymore. Donovant. Maybe I'm Payton
1:15:30
Speaker 1: with too broad of a brush, But do you get
1:15:32
Speaker 1: that sense if you feel that way from time to
1:15:34
Speaker 1: time or all the time, Donovant.
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Speaker 11: I think if you know you're someone you know. I'm
1:15:38
Speaker 11: not saying you're this kind of person brand because I
1:15:40
Speaker 11: don't think you are. But you know, if you're the
1:15:42
Speaker 11: kind of person that just lives their life on social
1:15:45
Speaker 11: media right or watches the six o'clock news, and that
1:15:49
Speaker 11: is that is the lens through which our nation is viewed.
1:15:52
Speaker 11: That certainly does seem to be the case. But you know,
1:15:55
Speaker 11: we find it every day from knocking doors and talking
1:15:58
Speaker 11: to you know, friends and name about pretty divisive topics
1:16:01
Speaker 11: like politics, or going to an event, tabling and encouraging
1:16:05
Speaker 11: people to sign a petition for school choice, you know,
1:16:09
Speaker 11: to events like what I've heard my colleagues in other states.
1:16:11
Speaker 11: This will be one of I think over a dozen
1:16:13
Speaker 11: stops we are doing. We're at about the halfway point
1:16:16
Speaker 11: when they bring it to Ohio.
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Speaker 3: You know those events as well. So many people you.
1:16:21
Speaker 11: Know, leave that event, their exit survey, their follow up
1:16:24
Speaker 11: of hey, what did you think? How can we make
1:16:26
Speaker 11: the event better. One of the things that we consistently
1:16:28
Speaker 11: hear is how inspiring it was to sort of, you know,
1:16:31
Speaker 11: come together three hundred, four hundred, five hundred people we've
1:16:34
Speaker 11: had at some of these events, Brian, and just celebrate America.
1:16:37
Speaker 11: Celebrate the great Americans who were volunteers, advocates, activists in
1:16:41
Speaker 11: their own communities at their own point in time through
1:16:44
Speaker 11: American history, and just reflect on that and celebrate that.
1:16:48
Speaker 11: And so I think, you know, if that's how what
1:16:51
Speaker 11: are your listeners is feeling bright? If that's how maybe
1:16:53
Speaker 11: even you're feeling all right, Brian, Yeah, come on up
1:16:55
Speaker 11: and join us at this event. Renew that American patriotic spirit.
1:16:59
Speaker 11: That's what this event, this a two fifty event, is.
1:17:01
Speaker 3: Going to be all about.
1:17:02
Speaker 11: And I think if you get out of the social media,
1:17:05
Speaker 11: you get also six o'clock news, and you go out
1:17:08
Speaker 11: and talk to your friend's neighbors about America, you're going
1:17:11
Speaker 11: to find it's not as dreary and dire as it
1:17:13
Speaker 11: might as it might seem.
1:17:14
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I was having one of those days yesterday, Donal.
1:17:16
Speaker 1: And I don't need to waxploit about my problems and
1:17:19
Speaker 1: my psychological day, but I was feeling that way the
1:17:21
Speaker 1: other day. I was talking to my mom and I
1:17:22
Speaker 1: was talking to my wife, and you know, what's wrong
1:17:24
Speaker 1: with you. It's, like I said, it's just the way
1:17:26
Speaker 1: of the world. You know, all the problems in the world.
1:17:28
Speaker 1: I'm just inundated with them every single day. It's bad
1:17:30
Speaker 1: news here and bad news there, and division here and
1:17:32
Speaker 1: division there, and you know, it's just it really does
1:17:35
Speaker 1: have an impact on your psychology, and it's not a
1:17:37
Speaker 1: positive one.
1:17:39
Speaker 10: You know.
1:17:39
Speaker 1: It was my mom or my wife just said, we'll
1:17:41
Speaker 1: just put it down, you know, just we'll quit thinking
1:17:43
Speaker 1: about it. I don't know how you turn that switch off, Donovan.
1:17:46
Speaker 1: But this social media, and not that I'm a part
1:17:49
Speaker 1: of social media, but this the Internet, the information that
1:17:53
Speaker 1: I absorb and have to read to do the fifty
1:17:55
Speaker 1: five KRS Morning show. So I seem to be at
1:17:57
Speaker 1: least somewhat understanding of whatever topic we're talking about. It's
1:18:01
Speaker 1: all a bunch of constant negativity, Donovan. Can you find
1:18:04
Speaker 1: good news in the news anymore?
1:18:07
Speaker 5: Well?
1:18:07
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, And I think that's part of what
1:18:09
Speaker 11: we reflect on as event serious, right, is that you know,
1:18:12
Speaker 11: we've got folks like you know, Martin Luther King Junior.
1:18:14
Speaker 3: I mean, the guy was assassinated.
1:18:16
Speaker 11: For his beliefs, right, Yeah, he stood up every day
1:18:18
Speaker 11: and walked in the streets. Yeah, to inspire others to
1:18:21
Speaker 11: move our country forward. You've got folks, you know, like
1:18:23
Speaker 11: the Right Brothers, a little left level of adversity, right,
1:18:26
Speaker 11: But these guys were bicycle shop owners and Dayton, Ohio
1:18:29
Speaker 11: who you know developed a concept that has you know,
1:18:32
Speaker 11: transformed the world. And you know, I think you look
1:18:37
Speaker 11: at the people who are founding fathers, right, like you
1:18:40
Speaker 11: think the way of the world is on. You imagine
1:18:42
Speaker 11: having the British Empire? You see one, you're high.
1:18:46
Speaker 1: That's the kind of slab in the face. I need
1:18:48
Speaker 1: the intellectual slab in the face. Shut up, Thomas, quit whineing.
1:18:53
Speaker 1: Can you imagine being like twenty four years old in
1:18:55
Speaker 1: forming a new nation. You know, it's pretty amazing when
1:18:59
Speaker 1: you think about it.
1:19:00
Speaker 3: It is so you know, we've got our moment of.
1:19:04
Speaker 11: Adversity right, our moment of challenge where we have to
1:19:07
Speaker 11: take the you know, can we make this American ideal
1:19:10
Speaker 11: that much more a reality for the generation.
1:19:13
Speaker 3: To come right? Right?
1:19:13
Speaker 11: And that's that's the challenge we put to people. It's
1:19:16
Speaker 11: the opportunity, in some small way, we at America's were
1:19:18
Speaker 11: prosper to give people the chance to do. And I
1:19:22
Speaker 11: think if you're you know, the best thing you do
1:19:24
Speaker 11: is come out and join us and help be a
1:19:26
Speaker 11: part of that solution if you want to make this
1:19:28
Speaker 11: country a better place and solve some of those problems.
1:19:30
Speaker 1: Donald, are you currently doing door knocking campaigns right now?
1:19:34
Speaker 6: Oh?
1:19:34
Speaker 3: We're always out there knocking doors.
1:19:36
Speaker 11: It's the best way to talk to talk to the people.
1:19:38
Speaker 1: Okay, we're out.
1:19:39
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:19:40
Speaker 5: No.
1:19:41
Speaker 1: To that end, I was kind of curious on a
1:19:43
Speaker 1: couple of issues, what you're hearing with with some of
1:19:45
Speaker 1: the folks you interact with. Can you stick around for
1:19:48
Speaker 1: a couple more minutes?
1:19:50
Speaker 5: Yeah?
1:19:50
Speaker 3: Happy too.
1:19:51
Speaker 1: All right, Well let's a pause right now. Bring Donovan
1:19:52
Speaker 1: back because one of them, and I'll give you a
1:19:54
Speaker 1: heads up in advance. I want to hear what people are.
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Speaker 1: and they'll get in touch with you and you will
1:20:14
Speaker 1: be in to help out with the door knocking campaign
1:20:17
Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio. And speaking of door knocking,
1:20:18
Speaker 1: I had to hold you over, Donovan, because I'm really
1:20:20
Speaker 1: curious this whole property tax thing, and I don't know
1:20:22
Speaker 1: where acts the tax is in terms of getting signatures
1:20:25
Speaker 1: to eradicate property taxes in the Ohio Constitution. I mean,
1:20:30
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, part of me gets kind of giddy
1:20:32
Speaker 1: waiting to see what the lawmakers and columbus are going
1:20:34
Speaker 1: to do if it does get voted in, because it's
1:20:37
Speaker 1: sort of like forcing them to do a job that
1:20:39
Speaker 1: they don't want to do. That would be a huge
1:20:41
Speaker 1: ask for them to find a solution. But are you
1:20:44
Speaker 1: hearing about property taxes in your door knocking efforts, Donovan?
1:20:49
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, it continues to be an issue that's
1:20:52
Speaker 11: relevant in general, just people paying Tree day much in
1:20:55
Speaker 11: tox Yeah.
1:20:56
Speaker 3: Period.
1:20:56
Speaker 11: And I think that you underlies what you see in
1:20:59
Speaker 11: a lot of a pulling if you follow any of that,
1:21:01
Speaker 11: which is affordability remains the top tier issue for Americans
1:21:06
Speaker 11: regardless of their political strikes. And yeah, we hear that,
1:21:09
Speaker 11: and that's the message we drive back to the conversations
1:21:12
Speaker 11: we have with lawmakers, whether it's me or my team
1:21:15
Speaker 11: directly having them, where us bringing activists to a congressman's office.
1:21:20
Speaker 11: The challenge here, Brian, and not going to mince words,
1:21:22
Speaker 11: is there are a lot of competing interests drawing at
1:21:26
Speaker 11: the federal level, especially our members Congress, away from the
1:21:30
Speaker 11: things that, in our opinion, they should be focused on,
1:21:33
Speaker 11: which is affordability, unleashing energy abundance, and helping an active
1:21:37
Speaker 11: policies we know are going to bring down the costs
1:21:40
Speaker 11: across the country.
1:21:41
Speaker 1: Well, at least traditionally, I can say Republicans are the
1:21:45
Speaker 1: party of lower taxes and less government. I wish there
1:21:48
Speaker 1: were more Republicans which have held that pledge, but this
1:21:51
Speaker 1: is the world we live in. But I would think
1:21:53
Speaker 1: that given the affordability problems we are all facing right now. Hell,
1:21:56
Speaker 1: I paid six dollars a gallon yesterday fill my tank.
1:21:59
Speaker 1: So I don't like that. But would I vote for
1:22:02
Speaker 1: a Democrat because of the problems that we now that Well,
1:22:06
Speaker 1: let's just say, for the sake of argument and discussion
1:22:09
Speaker 1: on this point, Donald Trump's war has caused us all
1:22:12
Speaker 1: to have to pay a whole lot more. It's got
1:22:13
Speaker 1: an inflationary reality. We can make the argument, so that
1:22:15
Speaker 1: would say Republicans. I can't vote for evil Republicans because
1:22:19
Speaker 1: they're the ones that brought about this, this inflation and
1:22:22
Speaker 1: this high gas prices. However, Democrats are always the party
1:22:24
Speaker 1: of higher taxation, so you would think affordability and democrats
1:22:29
Speaker 1: typical platform, which is to raise taxes on everyone, would
1:22:32
Speaker 1: be you know, maybe sort of inuring to a benefit
1:22:35
Speaker 1: of the Republicans side of the ledger. Maybe I'm just
1:22:37
Speaker 1: looking at it too simplistically, Donovant.
1:22:40
Speaker 11: Well, I think you're touching on something that's important, especially
1:22:42
Speaker 11: for our friends, the voters who aren't as engaged or
1:22:45
Speaker 11: dialed into you know, the policies that underlie the you know,
1:22:49
Speaker 11: the slick political.
1:22:50
Speaker 3: Ads and messaging that so many of us.
1:22:52
Speaker 11: Are are already seeing and we'll certainly see more of
1:22:55
Speaker 11: before this this November. And what you need to really
1:22:58
Speaker 11: do right is get to the part of the policies
1:23:02
Speaker 11: that each each party espouses. And you're right, you know,
1:23:05
Speaker 11: the Republican Party for all its ills, and the thing
1:23:10
Speaker 11: that the consistent through line that I think all Republicans
1:23:13
Speaker 11: and I'm among them, believe, is that we believe in
1:23:16
Speaker 11: free markets, limited government, lower taxes. And when now here's
1:23:22
Speaker 11: the challenge. When the party, especially when it's in leadership
1:23:26
Speaker 11: and of which it is both in Ohio and in Congress,
1:23:30
Speaker 11: stays focused on those principles free markets, limited government, lower taxes,
1:23:34
Speaker 11: good things happen. We saw it last year with that
1:23:38
Speaker 11: one big beautiful bill working family tax cuts. That legislation
1:23:42
Speaker 11: right helps people keep more of their hard earned money. Now,
1:23:45
Speaker 11: when we get misaligned, or we find ourselves you know,
1:23:50
Speaker 11: you know, strapped down in the Middle East once again,
1:23:54
Speaker 11: like we have found ourselves in the last several months,
1:23:57
Speaker 11: we lose sight. And that's a challenge to communicate the voters.
1:24:01
Speaker 11: When what the voters are really focused on, right or
1:24:03
Speaker 11: lower energy prices, more affordability, and the ability to keep
1:24:06
Speaker 11: the money that they've earned the difference, You're right is,
1:24:09
Speaker 11: we saw what happens under Democrat control. Bidenomics is the
1:24:12
Speaker 11: playbook they work from right now, and that means more
1:24:15
Speaker 11: government spending, that leads, that fuels inflationary policies and ultimately
1:24:21
Speaker 11: gets us to a more dire position as a nation
1:24:24
Speaker 11: than a better off one. You know, it only the
1:24:28
Speaker 11: way we kind of break through this my opinion, Sorry
1:24:30
Speaker 11: to go on attention here. My opinion here is we
1:24:34
Speaker 11: have to hold our elected officials accountable. They like us,
1:24:37
Speaker 11: they're humans, and no better pressure than grassroots pressure pulps
1:24:42
Speaker 11: write the ship and orient people to the things that
1:24:44
Speaker 11: they need to be doing as are elected officials. So,
1:24:47
Speaker 11: if anything, it's on us to take action, to be
1:24:50
Speaker 11: involved to make sure that our voice is heard and
1:24:53
Speaker 11: our elected officials do.
1:24:54
Speaker 3: The things we sent them to Washington, Columbus to do.
1:24:58
Speaker 1: Sending them there to hopefully mind the taxpayer dollars. Is
1:25:02
Speaker 1: fraud a big topic with your door knocking campaign. I'm
1:25:05
Speaker 1: praying that on a going forward basis, this becomes a
1:25:08
Speaker 1: dominant campaign issue that we need to mind our dollars
1:25:11
Speaker 1: a little bit more, manage them a little bit more.
1:25:13
Speaker 1: I saw the Government Accountability Office did a report looking
1:25:16
Speaker 1: at one calendar year last year and the Government Accountability
1:25:20
Speaker 1: Office and whether or not they're accurate or not. I said,
1:25:23
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty six billion dollars in improper payments
1:25:26
Speaker 1: were sent out in Medicare, Medicaid and welfare related programs
1:25:29
Speaker 1: one calendar year. Donovan, we have a spending problem and
1:25:32
Speaker 1: we have a lack of accountability problem. Is this is
1:25:36
Speaker 1: this a growing issue for folks?
1:25:39
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, the Medicaid.
1:25:40
Speaker 11: The reporting on the medicaid fraud in Ohio broke loose.
1:25:45
Speaker 11: I mean that went off the charts, on the door knocking,
1:25:47
Speaker 11: the conversations we were having this fraud, the ways the
1:25:49
Speaker 11: abuse it popped, you know, and I'd go back to
1:25:52
Speaker 11: like dose right a little over a year ago when dose.
1:25:54
Speaker 3: Was in its prime.
1:25:56
Speaker 11: That was despite what you know, if you turn on
1:25:58
Speaker 11: the six o'clock news, you were being told by ABC.
1:26:01
Speaker 3: NBC and CBS.
1:26:02
Speaker 11: The people love that, yeah, because they there's nobody fighting
1:26:06
Speaker 11: to root out that that fraud.
1:26:09
Speaker 3: Waste abuse within the system.
1:26:10
Speaker 11: And so when you have elected officials that actually become
1:26:13
Speaker 11: a bulldog on the issue and really bite down and
1:26:16
Speaker 11: don't let go until the bureaucrats you know, cry uncle.
1:26:21
Speaker 3: They reward that.
1:26:23
Speaker 11: It's tough with the media, and it's tough to have
1:26:26
Speaker 11: the pressure of telling people they're not going.
1:26:28
Speaker 3: To be able to abuse the system anymore.
1:26:29
Speaker 11: But that tenacity, that focus on fighting for the taxpayer,
1:26:34
Speaker 11: I believe pays off and is recognized among you know,
1:26:38
Speaker 11: the people who get out and vote in the primaries
1:26:41
Speaker 11: and general elections around the state.
1:26:42
Speaker 1: See that puts a smile on my face, countering what
1:26:45
Speaker 1: you read in the news narrative. Yes, people really do care.
1:26:48
Speaker 1: They know what's going on, this fraud and they want
1:26:51
Speaker 1: something done about it. So good, Okay, See, I'm glad
1:26:54
Speaker 1: we had this conversation. Donovan, feel a lot better than
1:26:57
Speaker 1: I did ten minutes ago. Donovan Neil can for Prosperity,
1:27:01
Speaker 1: find them get involved afpaction dot com. The team makes
1:27:04
Speaker 1: it so easy. Thank you for what you do each
1:27:06
Speaker 1: and every day. Don and I look forward to having
1:27:08
Speaker 1: you on the program next week again and between now
1:27:09
Speaker 1: and they have a fantastic week, my friend always do.
1:27:13
Speaker 1: Thanks Brian, appreciate the smile. Eight oh five and a
1:27:16
Speaker 1: happy Wednesday to you. Brian Thomas hosiated to Vid about
1:27:18
Speaker 1: Darrese Morning Show. Been looking forward to this since I
1:27:20
Speaker 1: saw he was on the rundown this morning and it's
1:27:22
Speaker 1: been a little while, but thank god we've got Scott
1:27:24
Speaker 1: Wartman reporting on local issues, including the proposed budget from
1:27:27
Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati from the Cincinnati Inquirer. Scott Whartman,
1:27:30
Speaker 1: Welcome back, my friends. Great hearing from me this morning.
1:27:34
Speaker 2: Oh great to be back.
1:27:35
Speaker 3: Good morning.
1:27:35
Speaker 1: Cincinnati dot COM's where you find SINCEINNI inquire online and
1:27:38
Speaker 1: let's look at it. We got a twenty nine and
1:27:40
Speaker 1: a half million dollar deficit, Scott Wartman, let's talk QUI
1:27:44
Speaker 1: just briefly about process. So the city manager comes up
1:27:47
Speaker 1: with a budget and may f Teed purvol i guess
1:27:49
Speaker 1: makes some changes and recommendations, and then they present that
1:27:52
Speaker 1: to council. Council has to vote on it. Correct.
1:27:56
Speaker 2: Yes, they've got about a little over a month to
1:27:59
Speaker 2: get it all done before July first first, which is
1:28:03
Speaker 2: the start of the fiscal year.
1:28:05
Speaker 1: Now do they can they make substantive changes? And how
1:28:08
Speaker 1: do changes occur? Because we know what we've got from
1:28:11
Speaker 1: city manager long and may have to a provall, but
1:28:14
Speaker 1: how much impact do the council members have in terms
1:28:16
Speaker 1: of getting maybe putting in the budget or taking things
1:28:18
Speaker 1: out of the budget that they want.
1:28:21
Speaker 2: Pretty much everything. I mean, the city manager and the
1:28:24
Speaker 2: mayor's budget is just a recommendation. The council is the
1:28:30
Speaker 2: ultimate authority and they're the ones that will vote on
1:28:33
Speaker 2: what gets in what doesn't. Now that's not to say
1:28:36
Speaker 2: that the mayor's recommendations and the city management they carry
1:28:43
Speaker 2: significant weight. So I mean there's a good chance if
1:28:46
Speaker 2: it's in that budget that it'll get in. The mayor,
1:28:50
Speaker 2: I believe, does have a veto power so and I
1:28:54
Speaker 2: can't remember what the veto override is if it's a
1:28:58
Speaker 2: simple majority or two thirds, So there is that, much
1:29:03
Speaker 2: like a state budget and other government entities. So the
1:29:07
Speaker 2: mayor does have power the veto things, but it is
1:29:11
Speaker 2: the city council. They're the ones test with putting together
1:29:16
Speaker 2: the budget and they have the ultimate vote.
1:29:18
Speaker 1: Well, I saw a quote from a city manager share
1:29:21
Speaker 1: along describing the budget as the city's leanest year. Yet
1:29:25
Speaker 1: are they struggling with tax revenue or revenues coming in
1:29:28
Speaker 1: or where are we with revenue flow?
1:29:30
Speaker 2: Scott, Well, actually it's better than what was originally anticipated,
1:29:35
Speaker 2: and that helped them close the gap. They're projecting a
1:29:38
Speaker 2: little bit more income tax revenue, which is their biggest
1:29:42
Speaker 2: source of revenue. About sixty sixty three percent or so
1:29:46
Speaker 2: the city's tax revenue comes from income taxes. But they
1:29:52
Speaker 2: blame basically just inflation. The mayor pointed, singled out tariffs
1:30:00
Speaker 2: causing costs to go up and gas prices as a
1:30:05
Speaker 2: big part of what's driving the deficit, but basically just
1:30:09
Speaker 2: everything's more expensive.
1:30:10
Speaker 1: So moving forward, these most recent and they have been
1:30:14
Speaker 1: fairly recent, increasing gas prices because gasoline was very affordable
1:30:18
Speaker 1: compared to the prior let's say, you know, we'll say
1:30:21
Speaker 1: during the Biden administration, but we're now experiencing increasing gas prices.
1:30:25
Speaker 1: So in order to project the finances and the needs
1:30:28
Speaker 1: for the next fiscal year, they have to effect factor
1:30:30
Speaker 1: in what they're going to have to pay for gasoline
1:30:33
Speaker 1: and fuel, et cetera. M Okay, so that's yeah.
1:30:35
Speaker 2: I mean, it is a lot of gaswork. But I
1:30:38
Speaker 2: mean they say they use a lot of informed data
1:30:45
Speaker 2: to make these decisions, but yeah, I mean it is
1:30:48
Speaker 2: a lot of projections because you don't know and that's
1:30:50
Speaker 2: why they have to actually do this budget because they
1:30:52
Speaker 2: passed a two year budget last year. But you know,
1:30:55
Speaker 2: you don't know what's going to happen in a year's time,
1:30:57
Speaker 2: and so this is basically an update of that, taking
1:31:00
Speaker 2: an account what's happened in the last year.
1:31:03
Speaker 1: Scott Warman, anything particular jump out at you in the
1:31:05
Speaker 1: budget because one giant thing jumped out, I mean, we'll
1:31:07
Speaker 1: get to that in a minute, assuming it's not in
1:31:09
Speaker 1: your top couple of favorites there. So what what jumped
1:31:12
Speaker 1: out of you is either good, unusual or puzzling. I
1:31:15
Speaker 1: don't know how to characterize it, but any.
1:31:18
Speaker 2: I'm guessing this maybe what you're bringing up. I mean,
1:31:21
Speaker 2: the biggest most contentious thing so far has been the
1:31:25
Speaker 2: music vent yea River been two point zero. Yes, I
1:31:29
Speaker 2: mean that that that has been what several council members
1:31:33
Speaker 2: who have opposed giving money to that, like Scottie Johnson,
1:31:37
Speaker 2: they continually brought it up as it doesn't look good.
1:31:42
Speaker 2: This is not the place of the city to do this,
1:31:45
Speaker 2: and it's it's not quite clear it's divided council. I mean,
1:31:48
Speaker 2: it was the resolution to support the funding giving eight
1:31:53
Speaker 2: million to Riverbend two point zero, which the Sincini Symphony
1:31:57
Speaker 2: is building the upgrade music venue on the East Side,
1:32:02
Speaker 2: which has been there for forty two years, it passed
1:32:07
Speaker 2: narrowly five to four. Not every council member will say
1:32:12
Speaker 2: where they stand now on that, but I've had some
1:32:15
Speaker 2: like Mika Owens say that they're going to reconsider, you know,
1:32:18
Speaker 2: depending on where the money's coming from. And even in
1:32:22
Speaker 2: the city manager manager's budget and the mayor, they both
1:32:26
Speaker 2: differed on how much to give the music venue. The
1:32:29
Speaker 2: mayor wants to give two million dollars in addition to
1:32:32
Speaker 2: the city buying property around there the quote protect the
1:32:36
Speaker 2: city's investment, and the city manager wants to give six million,
1:32:40
Speaker 2: which is two million less than the eight million that
1:32:43
Speaker 2: the CSO is asking for.
1:32:44
Speaker 1: Okay, well, they were building it anyway, they weren't. The
1:32:48
Speaker 1: money from the City of Cincinni wasn't factored into the
1:32:50
Speaker 1: equation when they started building the project, So where in
1:32:52
Speaker 1: the hell did this ask come from? And the intent
1:32:56
Speaker 1: so far as the city getting a return on investment,
1:32:59
Speaker 1: well that's fine. You can make the argument up front
1:33:00
Speaker 1: if you need the funding to make the event happen
1:33:03
Speaker 1: or to make the building project happen. But whatever ROI
1:33:07
Speaker 1: from people, foot traffic and ticket sales and all, that
1:33:09
Speaker 1: city's going to get it slice anyway. Isn't that part
1:33:12
Speaker 1: of the reality of the project anyhow, so this isn't
1:33:16
Speaker 1: it was never I guess it just seemed to have
1:33:18
Speaker 1: come out of left field. I'm trying to put my
1:33:20
Speaker 1: thoughts together on that one. Scott, Where do the ask
1:33:22
Speaker 1: come from? And why do they think they need to
1:33:23
Speaker 1: fund it at this point?
1:33:25
Speaker 2: Well, that's a very good question, and it was not
1:33:31
Speaker 2: easy to get an answer from the symphony as far
1:33:33
Speaker 2: as like if this doesn't happen, you know, then like
1:33:36
Speaker 2: if the city doesn't give money, what happens is the
1:33:38
Speaker 2: project and the CSO would give statement that, you know, like, well,
1:33:44
Speaker 2: it's important to keep it on time. But it wasn't
1:33:47
Speaker 2: clear exactly, you know, what would it go forward or not.
1:33:50
Speaker 2: When the mayor and city manager released their budget, they said,
1:33:53
Speaker 2: well it would it would go forward with or without
1:33:57
Speaker 2: the city investment. The mayor is saying his two million
1:34:00
Speaker 2: dollars would be contingent on a guaranteed return from the
1:34:05
Speaker 2: from the music venue. What that would be he said
1:34:10
Speaker 2: they still to negotiate that with the symphony, but he's
1:34:14
Speaker 2: saying that if we don't do this investment, there is
1:34:18
Speaker 2: no guaranteed return for the city. This would be a
1:34:20
Speaker 2: guaranteed return over the next ten years, and it'll be
1:34:25
Speaker 2: profitable for the city. Is his argument?
1:34:28
Speaker 1: Well, does the geography have something to do with it?
1:34:30
Speaker 1: Because I'll be honest with you, I'm new to the
1:34:32
Speaker 1: reality that part of that is physically in the city
1:34:35
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. So if that whatever slice is part of
1:34:40
Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati, of course they'd be subject to
1:34:42
Speaker 1: income tax and earnings tax and the like, and the
1:34:44
Speaker 1: city would be entitled to its slice. But is it
1:34:46
Speaker 1: a geographic reality, Like if the revenue generating activity is
1:34:50
Speaker 1: happening in say what Anderson Township, does that mean the
1:34:53
Speaker 1: city doesn't get anything other than whatever money is spent
1:34:56
Speaker 1: by people like going to a football game spending it
1:34:59
Speaker 1: in the city area.
1:35:01
Speaker 6: Uh.
1:35:02
Speaker 2: One of this because it is right on the border.
1:35:05
Speaker 2: But I believe, and I'll actually have to double check this,
1:35:08
Speaker 2: but the the actual venue itself is in the city.
1:35:12
Speaker 5: Uh.
1:35:13
Speaker 2: Uh. And there there is like uh it like the
1:35:16
Speaker 2: border goes right through like the River Bend property.
1:35:19
Speaker 5: Uh.
1:35:20
Speaker 2: And that's always been kind of one of the interesting
1:35:22
Speaker 2: quirks of this and one of the questions I still have, uh,
1:35:26
Speaker 2: because I do remember this coming up when the symphony
1:35:29
Speaker 2: built the Brady Center. They're a nonprofit as well, So
1:35:33
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that affects, you know, the city's
1:35:36
Speaker 2: tax return and what's taxable and what isn't. But the
1:35:39
Speaker 2: way I initially took the comments to mean there's no
1:35:42
Speaker 2: guarantee of any revenue or the that this will be
1:35:45
Speaker 2: a success, right, or that it'll be making a profit.
1:35:48
Speaker 2: But he's the mayor is saying that whatever deal they
1:35:52
Speaker 2: work out with the CSO, they're good. The CSO is
1:35:55
Speaker 2: going to pay the city a fixed amount. Uh So
1:35:59
Speaker 2: the city is going to guaranteed in the first ten
1:36:01
Speaker 2: years to get uh some uh more than its two
1:36:06
Speaker 2: million dollar investment back.
1:36:08
Speaker 1: Okay. That okay, And that that paying the city component
1:36:11
Speaker 1: is contingent upon the city putting money into the project
1:36:16
Speaker 1: paying this say that again, So I the six point five,
1:36:21
Speaker 1: the two million, whatever the city contributes, is that going
1:36:23
Speaker 1: to result in this payoff to the City of Cincinnati
1:36:26
Speaker 1: or would money be flowing into the City of Cincinnati. Again,
1:36:29
Speaker 1: because the project is going to be built, just as
1:36:30
Speaker 1: a natural consequence, the city is going to generate some
1:36:33
Speaker 1: revenue off of it. I guess I'm wondering is this there.
1:36:39
Speaker 2: Would be and I do have a question as far
1:36:41
Speaker 2: as the nonprofit whether that affects what the city would
1:36:44
Speaker 2: get back and what the city can tax. Uh so
1:36:46
Speaker 2: that that that's still a question outstanding that I have.
1:36:50
Speaker 2: But uh uh yeah, the city would if if it's successful,
1:36:55
Speaker 2: get money back. But this is a guaranteed return, and
1:37:01
Speaker 2: again the amount is to be determined. So exactly how
1:37:05
Speaker 2: much that is that's not not been agreed upon yet.
1:37:11
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean there is a question on what
1:37:14
Speaker 2: would the city get back anyways, but I think that's
1:37:17
Speaker 2: a matter of predicting the future, and I yeah that
1:37:20
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's answerable.
1:37:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, it isn't. And I think there have been studies
1:37:23
Speaker 1: done on how much money is generated as a consequence
1:37:26
Speaker 1: of let's say, building a stadium, you know, foot traffic.
1:37:29
Speaker 1: They always pump up the numbers and say, oh, we're
1:37:31
Speaker 1: gonna get way more than we ever invest in. I
1:37:33
Speaker 1: think history has demonstrated no, that really doesn't quite often
1:37:37
Speaker 1: happen anyhow. Scott Wharton from the Cincinni Acquirer Cincinnti dot
1:37:40
Speaker 1: comm is where you find him and the other reporting
1:37:41
Speaker 1: from the Inquirer, Can I hold you over? I got
1:37:43
Speaker 1: to ask you about some additional things going on. Yeah, great,
1:37:46
Speaker 1: more on the budget and well a cap on Fort
1:37:48
Speaker 1: Washington Way. Maybe eat sixteen thirty five KRC detalk stations
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1:38:00
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1:38:04
Speaker 1: talking about the City of CINCINNTI budget and one of
1:38:06
Speaker 1: the things I was pleasantly surprised that they seem to
1:38:09
Speaker 1: have taken the council members, or at least the city
1:38:11
Speaker 1: manager and the mayor. In the proposed budget that they
1:38:14
Speaker 1: presented a council, they seem to have taken a one
1:38:17
Speaker 1: point eighty in their attitude toward funding police. There's additional
1:38:20
Speaker 1: money in the budget for the cincinnt Police Department as
1:38:23
Speaker 1: well as the fire department. I was pleased to see that,
1:38:24
Speaker 1: and I thought that was unexpected. Do you think it's
1:38:27
Speaker 1: an adequate increase or where are we on that one?
1:38:29
Speaker 3: Scott Whartman, Well, I mean that's a good question.
1:38:33
Speaker 2: I mean it doesn't seem like there really is any
1:38:35
Speaker 2: number that would be like mission accomplished. It's enough the
1:38:39
Speaker 2: biggest struggle is just getting enough people to apply to
1:38:45
Speaker 2: be a police officer. They are still about one hundred
1:38:49
Speaker 2: police officers short of their full complement of a one
1:38:53
Speaker 2: thy fifty nine and they have two new fifty recruit
1:38:59
Speaker 2: classes the budget, but you know, there's just a lot
1:39:03
Speaker 2: of retirements and people leaving and going to other.
1:39:09
Speaker 3: Agencies.
1:39:09
Speaker 2: So I mean that's still the biggest challenge, and I
1:39:12
Speaker 2: don't know if there is an adequate answer for it.
1:39:15
Speaker 2: I mean I've heard actually on a lot of podcasts
1:39:18
Speaker 2: they're advertising work for the police department, so I mean
1:39:22
Speaker 2: they are aggressively recruiting.
1:39:25
Speaker 3: I can say that.
1:39:26
Speaker 2: But yeah, that is the biggest challenge. But they do
1:39:28
Speaker 2: have I believe it's a fifteen percent increase in spending.
1:39:32
Speaker 2: A lot of that is going towards the recruit classes
1:39:36
Speaker 2: and bigger use of drones, which helps with the lower
1:39:43
Speaker 2: man power being able to respond immediately in the air.
1:39:47
Speaker 2: So they're putting a lot of money towards that and
1:39:50
Speaker 2: techniques like that.
1:39:52
Speaker 1: Well, we certainly seem to at least have a growing
1:39:54
Speaker 1: violence problem, most notably among young people in this country,
1:39:57
Speaker 1: with you know, street takeovers and ake. We've got to
1:39:59
Speaker 1: be fully prepared for that. Maybe the councilor the mayor
1:40:02
Speaker 1: at least and the city manager perceive that to be
1:40:04
Speaker 1: a problem and that's the reason they're increasing funding. But
1:40:06
Speaker 1: you did identify the biggest problem is Look, being a
1:40:09
Speaker 1: law enforcement officer in the city of Cincinnati quite often
1:40:11
Speaker 1: is a thankless job. You know, they're not interested in
1:40:14
Speaker 1: really holding people accountable. It seems, Scott, you have a breakdown,
1:40:18
Speaker 1: at least on the judicial end of it, but you
1:40:20
Speaker 1: also have you know, people like Iris Rolie who do
1:40:23
Speaker 1: not like police to be actively involved in law enforcement.
1:40:26
Speaker 1: Proactive policing is a no no in downtown Cincinnati, and
1:40:29
Speaker 1: I think anybody who wants to get a career in
1:40:30
Speaker 1: law enforcement doesn't want to walk into an environment that
1:40:33
Speaker 1: has that perception up front.
1:40:36
Speaker 2: Well, I've heard different sides of the coin on that.
1:40:41
Speaker 2: Some people don't like Iris. Some people think that she's
1:40:45
Speaker 2: a valuable check on authority from what I've read, though,
1:40:50
Speaker 2: I mean, this isn't just a Cincinnati issue. I mean
1:40:52
Speaker 2: it's tough recruiting police in a lot of major cities.
1:40:57
Speaker 2: So I mean as far as like one cause on that,
1:41:01
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of tough to pin down.
1:41:04
Speaker 1: Well, I police are leaving the City of Cincinnati law
1:41:07
Speaker 1: enforcement to go work in other law enforcement environments. You know,
1:41:11
Speaker 1: it's a you know, if you can get a job
1:41:13
Speaker 1: out in Warren County, that's very desirable compared to working
1:41:15
Speaker 1: in the city of Cincinnati. So I do think how
1:41:17
Speaker 1: people treat law enforcement in the perception of fighting crime
1:41:20
Speaker 1: can make a huge difference in a police officer's life.
1:41:22
Speaker 1: But we can we can leave that debate there. It
1:41:24
Speaker 1: has nothing to do specifically with the budget pivoting over.
1:41:27
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I had to laugh at this one. I
1:41:29
Speaker 1: don't want to catch you off guard, but I saw
1:41:30
Speaker 1: the article about the city leaders wanting a twenty five
1:41:33
Speaker 1: million dollar federal grant to cap the Fort Washington Way
1:41:37
Speaker 1: Phase one Scott. We all know phase three is profit.
1:41:40
Speaker 1: What's phase two? Apparently Phase two is a lot more money.
1:41:43
Speaker 1: We have to match if we get a federal grant,
1:41:45
Speaker 1: this twenty five million dollar ass we have to match
1:41:47
Speaker 1: that with twenty five million. They seem to be wondering
1:41:50
Speaker 1: how they're going to get that, talking about me tax
1:41:51
Speaker 1: increment financing, city park grants, maybe private fundraising. So they
1:41:55
Speaker 1: haven't gotten all of the money together. But then we're
1:41:58
Speaker 1: going to cost another huge sum of money for phase two.
1:42:02
Speaker 1: The ultimate goal is to kind of make a park
1:42:03
Speaker 1: like surface. I can see the vision, and I'm not
1:42:06
Speaker 1: against the vision, but Scott, we don't seem to be
1:42:08
Speaker 1: taking care of the infrastructure that we already have. The
1:42:11
Speaker 1: roads are deteriorating rapidly, and they have been for a
1:42:14
Speaker 1: long time. Every year the number of miles that need
1:42:16
Speaker 1: to be serviced or maintained gets longer and longer. They're
1:42:19
Speaker 1: already fighting an uphill battle. Is it the right thing
1:42:22
Speaker 1: to do? I mean, is this a project that's worth
1:42:24
Speaker 1: doing considering that we can't take care of what we got.
1:42:27
Speaker 3: Well.
1:42:28
Speaker 2: Thankfully, it doesn't catch me off guard because this has
1:42:30
Speaker 2: been talked about for years, probably as long as the
1:42:34
Speaker 2: Brent Spence Bridge project. I mean as long as I've
1:42:38
Speaker 2: been with the Inquirer, which has been twenty years or so.
1:42:42
Speaker 2: But yeah, this has always been like a wish list
1:42:45
Speaker 2: of the business community. There is The argument is, and
1:42:50
Speaker 2: I mean I can see this with the current setup
1:42:54
Speaker 2: having to go over pedestrian bridges and streets, overpasses over
1:42:58
Speaker 2: for Washington Way, it cuts off the riverfront from the
1:43:02
Speaker 2: downtown and there's a lot of empty unused space as
1:43:06
Speaker 2: a result of that, And so the argument has always been,
1:43:11
Speaker 2: you know, if we can do something with this, it'll
1:43:14
Speaker 2: encourage more people to you know, go to the banks
1:43:17
Speaker 2: and go you know, along the riverfront. I mean, obviously
1:43:21
Speaker 2: you know whether that would happen or not. I mean
1:43:23
Speaker 2: that you wouldn't. You wouldn't know until you know it happens, right,
1:43:27
Speaker 2: But that's that's always been the argument. And I don't
1:43:30
Speaker 2: know if it's necessarily an either or, Like if they
1:43:36
Speaker 2: do invest in this, does that mean it's coming from
1:43:38
Speaker 2: money that would go to pave the streets, because they
1:43:40
Speaker 2: always argue it all comes from different thns of money.
1:43:43
Speaker 2: And this, again, much like the Brent Spence Bridge, is
1:43:46
Speaker 2: all contingent on the Feds or somebody else coming up
1:43:49
Speaker 2: with at least half, if not more, to do it.
1:43:53
Speaker 2: So the county I believe, and my colleague Sidney Franklin
1:43:56
Speaker 2: got the scoop today on it. But the county is
1:43:59
Speaker 2: like applied four times for grants and not gotten it.
1:44:03
Speaker 2: So I mean, unless the Feds do something, it's not
1:44:07
Speaker 2: moving forward.
1:44:08
Speaker 1: Well, the FEDS analyze these proprosals because apparently there's a
1:44:11
Speaker 1: line around the door, around the block to get federal
1:44:13
Speaker 1: grants along these lines, so they at least look at
1:44:16
Speaker 1: it and determine whether or not there is a feasible project.
1:44:20
Speaker 1: And if they've said no for previous times, maybe the
1:44:22
Speaker 1: writing's already on the wall considering the number of people
1:44:24
Speaker 1: asking for federal money. I can't say for sure right now.
1:44:27
Speaker 1: I don't guess you can't either, Scott, but maybe they
1:44:30
Speaker 1: will save us from ourselves what he characterize it like that?
1:44:34
Speaker 2: But well, I mean, I don't know how many times
1:44:39
Speaker 2: they applied for the Brent Spence Bridge or the viaduct,
1:44:43
Speaker 2: but these things do usually take multiple times before it
1:44:47
Speaker 2: actually goes through, and it also depends on who's in
1:44:49
Speaker 2: charge of the agencies in power. So just because they've
1:44:56
Speaker 2: applied four times doesn't mean it won't happen the fifth time.
1:44:59
Speaker 1: True, But I guess as far as the Brents Ben's
1:45:01
Speaker 1: Bridge project being improved, it helps when both presidents of
1:45:04
Speaker 1: both political stripes are campaigning in front of it promising
1:45:07
Speaker 1: to get it done. So at least we had bipartisanship
1:45:10
Speaker 1: and so that project is concerned. Scott Wartman, thank you
1:45:14
Speaker 1: for spending time with my listeners of me today appreciate
1:45:16
Speaker 1: your keeping your eyeball on that budget, and we'll look
1:45:18
Speaker 1: forward to seeing what city Council has to say. What's
1:45:20
Speaker 1: the deadline against Scott? June thirtieth, June thirty. If we
1:45:25
Speaker 1: got some time between now and then, maybe we'll get
1:45:26
Speaker 1: a research study to find out what the ROI is
1:45:28
Speaker 1: on that Farmer Music Center. Scott, have a.
1:45:30
Speaker 12: Fucking about the shoe Ki not the change your mind kid,
1:45:34
Speaker 12: So go ahead, slip into your flip flops, grab a
1:45:37
Speaker 12: cup of coffee and get set for our next guest. Now,
1:45:42
Speaker 12: who never flip flops? That's right, it's the judge Chuck
1:45:46
Speaker 12: Ingram on fifty five KRS the talk station.
1:45:51
Speaker 1: Hey, thirty fifty five KRC the talk station. I don't know.
1:45:55
Speaker 1: It looks like the judge has a tie on and
1:45:58
Speaker 1: a crisp white shirt. I don't think he's in flip
1:46:01
Speaker 1: flop wearing garb today. Welcome back, Judge. I can't see
1:46:06
Speaker 1: underneath your desk, Judge, but maybe you have flip flopps on.
1:46:09
Speaker 1: Of course, Juck Ingram making some fun as he always
1:46:11
Speaker 1: likes to do. As we intro you each week here
1:46:13
Speaker 1: on the fifty five Cars Morning Show, Judge and a Pulton.
1:46:15
Speaker 1: It's always a distinct pleasure to have you on the program.
1:46:18
Speaker 6: It is a pleasure, you know. For many years it
1:46:20
Speaker 6: was a custom in the television industry for female employees
1:46:26
Speaker 6: of all types to wear flip flops from Memorial Day
1:46:31
Speaker 6: to Labor Day to work. And then a couple of
1:46:35
Speaker 6: the guys started and then management said, freg at it,
1:46:39
Speaker 6: no flipflops.
1:46:40
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to see guys harry big feet. I guess
1:46:44
Speaker 1: that's how that boils down, Judge Joseph po Lord.
1:46:47
Speaker 6: I have a friend who has an IT company and
1:46:51
Speaker 6: he's got about twenty five guys that he employs, and
1:46:54
Speaker 6: their feet were so bad he ordered in a pedicurist.
1:46:58
Speaker 6: For anybody that wanted to wear flip bluffs to work.
1:47:01
Speaker 6: You had to spend two hours with these, with these pedicurists.
1:47:06
Speaker 6: This is all. This is all beyond me. I know
1:47:08
Speaker 6: you usually ask me questions, but I have to ask
1:47:11
Speaker 6: you one. Is Thomas Massey seeking his seat as an independent?
1:47:16
Speaker 6: Is he seeking the presidency? What do I keep reading?
1:47:19
Speaker 6: Massey is running.
1:47:21
Speaker 3: Running for what?
1:47:22
Speaker 1: That's the question. No one seems to know. I guess
1:47:24
Speaker 1: he had to announce that he is running for something,
1:47:26
Speaker 1: But so far, no one seems to know what he's
1:47:28
Speaker 1: running for. Some people even think he's going to run
1:47:30
Speaker 1: for president. I think maybe he'd have the endorsement of
1:47:33
Speaker 1: Judge Edenapolitano if he did so.
1:47:35
Speaker 6: Well, there's a lot of people who believe we need
1:47:39
Speaker 6: a third party, and Thomas Massey would be the appropriate
1:47:43
Speaker 6: person to lead that movement. And if the third party's
1:47:46
Speaker 6: going to be viable by twenty twenty eight, they'd need
1:47:49
Speaker 6: to start now. But it was just unclear to me.
1:47:53
Speaker 6: Now it's unclear to you as well. And the two
1:47:55
Speaker 6: of us are his friend what he is running for.
1:47:58
Speaker 6: If he runs for his old seed, the Democrat will win,
1:48:02
Speaker 6: that will really explode in Trump's face. But maybe he
1:48:07
Speaker 6: doesn't want to do that. I don't know.
1:48:10
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the other thing that may implode in
1:48:12
Speaker 1: Trump's face is I don't know Ed Gollryan, right, I
1:48:16
Speaker 1: don't know what he stands for other than he had
1:48:18
Speaker 1: Trump's endorsement and he has a firm handshake. Now I'm
1:48:21
Speaker 1: not nobody.
1:48:22
Speaker 6: Nobody does Brian Well, nobody knows what cal Ran stands
1:48:28
Speaker 6: for us, just that he's not Thomas Massy exactly.
1:48:31
Speaker 1: So my question is now I know there are a
1:48:33
Speaker 1: lot of very big Massy supporters like you and I.
1:48:37
Speaker 1: I don't know if I was in it could vote
1:48:39
Speaker 1: in the Commonwealth, what I would do. I probably would
1:48:41
Speaker 1: end up having to hold my nose and vote for Goleryan,
1:48:43
Speaker 1: because I know what you're gonna get when you get
1:48:44
Speaker 1: a Democrat. But Kentucky's got a Democrat governor. So what
1:48:48
Speaker 1: I'm thinking is if there are a lot of really irked,
1:48:51
Speaker 1: angry Massy supporters, they may not go to the polls
1:48:55
Speaker 1: and vote for Gle Ryan. They may just not punch
1:48:57
Speaker 1: the ticket or fill in the box and maybe vote
1:49:00
Speaker 1: for other ones, or otherwise just not show up, which
1:49:02
Speaker 1: means it's possible, theoretically that the Democrat could end up winning.
1:49:06
Speaker 6: Yes without Thomas on the ballot.
1:49:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, right right. You and I both have our popcorn
1:49:13
Speaker 1: out of that, and you and I both share the disappointment.
1:49:15
Speaker 1: The other thing is, I'm little miffed by the criticism
1:49:19
Speaker 1: everybody coming out saying Thomas Massey is somehow anti Semitic,
1:49:22
Speaker 1: merely because he pointed out that a lot of money
1:49:24
Speaker 1: flowed into the Gaal Ryan campaign from the Jewish lobby.
1:49:28
Speaker 1: They're entitled to spend what they want. And I don't
1:49:30
Speaker 1: think Thomas Massey expressing some you know, dismay over that
1:49:33
Speaker 1: happening the most expensive congressional primary in the history of America.
1:49:38
Speaker 1: I don't think that makes a manti semitic. I haven't
1:49:39
Speaker 1: heard an anti Semitic word out of Thomas Massey's mouth. Ever.
1:49:42
Speaker 1: He is against funding foreign governments period. Fill in the blank,
1:49:46
Speaker 1: whether it's Israel or France for that matter.
1:49:49
Speaker 6: There's not an anti Semitic moan in Thomas Massey's body.
1:49:52
Speaker 6: I've known him for twenty years. This is the price
1:49:56
Speaker 6: you pay when you criticize the government of Prime Minister,
1:49:58
Speaker 6: and that's in Yaho. Self have been called anti semitic
1:50:03
Speaker 6: because I criticized that government. It is a technique of
1:50:06
Speaker 6: the American Zionist lobby to conflate opposition to American taxpayers
1:50:13
Speaker 6: funding a foreign government with hatred of the Jews. There
1:50:17
Speaker 6: is no connection whatsoever. We're talking about a government that
1:50:23
Speaker 6: is largely funded by the American taxpayer. I oppose that,
1:50:27
Speaker 6: I oppose all foreign aid. I would oppose aid to
1:50:30
Speaker 6: the Vatican. And you certainly can't say I'm anti Catholic.
1:50:33
Speaker 6: I mean, I just you just have to live with
1:50:36
Speaker 6: these scerless and baseless attacks. And when Thomas Massey was
1:50:40
Speaker 6: asked if he is anti Semitic, he said no, and
1:50:44
Speaker 6: hell no. I say the same for myself and for you,
1:50:48
Speaker 6: and for the millions of us who question why we're
1:50:54
Speaker 6: giving all this money to a foreign government to expand
1:50:57
Speaker 6: its borders.
1:50:58
Speaker 1: Indeed, now pivoting over, I guess the broader question. I
1:51:02
Speaker 1: can ask your column a nation of suspects, and you're
1:51:05
Speaker 1: referring to every single person within earshot, every American is
1:51:08
Speaker 1: a suspect and the eyes of the government. And we've
1:51:11
Speaker 1: talked about this subject a lot, you know, the figs
1:51:13
Speaker 1: of courts, nsay, the spying that's being done on us
1:51:16
Speaker 1: each and every day. Just sort of a boiled down question.
1:51:19
Speaker 1: It feels like, and I'm i asking you directly, do
1:51:21
Speaker 1: we really even have a Fourth Amendment anymore? Judgment of Politano,
1:51:26
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say we don't.
1:51:28
Speaker 6: I mean, one of my columns between now and the
1:51:31
Speaker 6: fourth of July will be in memoriam the Fourth Amendment.
1:51:37
Speaker 6: We really don't because of, as I point out in
1:51:39
Speaker 6: this column, fear going back to World War One, fear
1:51:44
Speaker 6: of war, fear of foreign people, fear of drugs, fear
1:51:49
Speaker 6: of crime, fear of communism, fear of terrorism. Bob Higgs,
1:51:56
Speaker 6: a retired professor at Louisiana State University, is written the
1:52:00
Speaker 6: classic book called Crisis and Lebiathan, and it shows how
1:52:04
Speaker 6: every time the government expands, it does so at the
1:52:07
Speaker 6: time of crisis or rama. Manual, the former mayor of Chicago,
1:52:12
Speaker 6: former White House Chief of Staff, and probably Canada for
1:52:15
Speaker 6: the Democratic nomination for Presidents, famously said, with intellectual honesty,
1:52:21
Speaker 6: never let a crisis go to wait the waste. The
1:52:24
Speaker 6: government uses crises to take liberty from the people and
1:52:28
Speaker 6: enhance its power, and then when the crisis is over,
1:52:32
Speaker 6: the power doesn't go back. In two thousand and one,
1:52:36
Speaker 6: with fifteen minutes of debate, the House of Representatives voted
1:52:41
Speaker 6: in favor of the Patriot Actor. It's one hundred and
1:52:43
Speaker 6: fifteen pages long. It takes three days three days to
1:52:47
Speaker 6: read because it doesn't read like a novel. It requires
1:52:51
Speaker 6: you have the entire criminal code in front of you.
1:52:53
Speaker 6: Changed the to and change and to or change five
1:52:59
Speaker 6: years to ten years. Its amendments of the existing statutes.
1:53:04
Speaker 6: But it basically lets one FBI agent authorize another FBI
1:53:09
Speaker 6: agent to search in direct and profound violation of the
1:53:15
Speaker 6: Fourth Amendment. Why well, because we thought the people that
1:53:18
Speaker 6: caused nine to eleven were about to do more damage.
1:53:21
Speaker 6: That was twenty five years ago. Patriot Act is still there,
1:53:24
Speaker 6: the powers are still there. The liberty stolen and seized
1:53:28
Speaker 6: has never been returned. There are countless examples.
1:53:31
Speaker 1: Of this, Brian, countless examples, and the surveillance state keeps growing. Obviously,
1:53:35
Speaker 1: technology has allowed the advancement of so many things, and
1:53:38
Speaker 1: real eye opener that I didn't know you talked about
1:53:41
Speaker 1: in your column, the sophisticated software that can read fingerprints
1:53:44
Speaker 1: from fifteen feet away.
1:53:48
Speaker 6: And if you're in the federal database for whatever benign reason,
1:53:55
Speaker 6: you applied for a federal job, you became state judge,
1:54:00
Speaker 6: and they took your fingerprints, whatever. If you're in that
1:54:03
Speaker 6: federal database and you wave goodbye or good riddance to
1:54:09
Speaker 6: an ICE agent and he's got his cell phone out,
1:54:11
Speaker 6: it takes a picture of your hand. In five minutes,
1:54:15
Speaker 6: he not only has your fingerprints, he has your medical records,
1:54:18
Speaker 6: your legal records, your banking records, your credit card records
1:54:25
Speaker 6: on his mobile device. In utter and profound violation of
1:54:32
Speaker 6: the Fourth Amendment. That's where we are today. Thank you
1:54:35
Speaker 6: Donald Trump. It was victimized by all this before he
1:54:39
Speaker 6: was president, allowing his government to do it. This is
1:54:42
Speaker 6: the problem with giving hundreds of billions of dollars to DHS.
1:54:47
Speaker 6: They buy every toy that is advertised to them and
1:54:51
Speaker 6: they use them.
1:54:52
Speaker 1: And I guess one could throw in the CIA as well.
1:54:54
Speaker 1: We don't even know what the CIA gets by way
1:54:56
Speaker 1: of budget. But that whistleblower testimony came out in the
1:55:01
Speaker 1: sitting on documents that they had asked for, the COVID
1:55:03
Speaker 1: nineteen origin documents. There's a bill that was passed out
1:55:07
Speaker 1: of Congress forcing them to hand it over. They still
1:55:09
Speaker 1: haven't handed it over. They play a waiting game for
1:55:11
Speaker 1: the next administration to come along, and the issue just happened,
1:55:16
Speaker 1: it happens to go away. I feel as if there
1:55:18
Speaker 1: was no oversight of control over any of these lettered agencies,
1:55:22
Speaker 1: your honor.
1:55:23
Speaker 6: No, there isn't. There isn't, Brian, because they terrify members
1:55:28
Speaker 6: of Congress. Here's a classic example, and I don't want
1:55:30
Speaker 6: to spend too much time in this. I'll tell this
1:55:33
Speaker 6: briefly as I can. When Mike Johnson was now the
1:55:36
Speaker 6: Speaker of the House, was a regular congressman from Louisiana.
1:55:40
Speaker 6: He was a fierce opponent of the Patriot Act and
1:55:44
Speaker 6: of its various extensions. As he became Speaker of the House,
1:55:48
Speaker 6: he continued to oppose it. And then one day was
1:55:51
Speaker 6: visited by a half dozen NSA agents who spent two
1:55:55
Speaker 6: hours with him in his office. We don't know what
1:55:58
Speaker 6: they showed him, We don't know what they said to him.
1:56:01
Speaker 6: We don't know what he said to them. But when
1:56:04
Speaker 6: he came out of his office, he was suddenly in
1:56:06
Speaker 6: favor of extending the Patriot Act. Was it dirt? Was
1:56:11
Speaker 6: it fear? Was it terror? Was it something about him?
1:56:15
Speaker 6: Who knows justice? Scalia told me that he and the
1:56:19
Speaker 6: other justices, now this is circa two thousand and fourteen
1:56:24
Speaker 6: or fifteen. He died in sixteen, knew that they were
1:56:28
Speaker 6: being surveiled by the intelligence community, the Supreme Court of
1:56:32
Speaker 6: the United States being surveilled by the intelligence community by
1:56:36
Speaker 6: surveilled means. Their phone calls were listened to, and their
1:56:41
Speaker 6: key strokes were captured. Is it any wonder that a
1:56:45
Speaker 6: draft of the Dobbs decision came out six months before
1:56:49
Speaker 6: the decision itself.
1:56:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they can make big political wind of that
1:56:53
Speaker 1: one in advance of the decision being released, obviously nefarious
1:56:55
Speaker 1: purposes to that any point out articulable suspicion, which the
1:56:59
Speaker 1: lowest of an entry standard in your column that was
1:57:01
Speaker 1: the baseline for government behavior target any individual merely being
1:57:05
Speaker 1: a Supreme Court justice, or a member of the House
1:57:08
Speaker 1: of Representatives, or being judge of Politano is not, in
1:57:11
Speaker 1: and of itself articulable suspicion.
1:57:14
Speaker 6: Correct, But don't tell that to them, because they don't
1:57:18
Speaker 6: even care about an articulable suspicion anymore. The point is,
1:57:23
Speaker 6: the title of the Columination of Suspects is not an exaggeration.
1:57:27
Speaker 6: It may have been fifteen years ago, it is not today.
1:57:32
Speaker 1: Well, I will strongly encourage my listeners to get a
1:57:34
Speaker 1: copy of the column gud janited of Polotonic any real
1:57:37
Speaker 1: quick here before we part company. Any other Supreme Court
1:57:40
Speaker 1: decisions that you see coming in the pipe that we
1:57:41
Speaker 1: can anticipate maybe in the summer, that you've got your
1:57:44
Speaker 1: eye on specifically, well, the.
1:57:46
Speaker 6: One that the President is most animated about, so animated
1:57:50
Speaker 6: that he sent this Vice President to have a private,
1:57:53
Speaker 6: unpublicized dinner with the Chief Justice last week did you
1:57:57
Speaker 6: know about that?
1:57:58
Speaker 1: No, I didn't.
1:58:00
Speaker 6: Now nobody did. Is birthright citizenship, but I don't. They
1:58:05
Speaker 6: could lobby the Chief Justice all they want from the
1:58:07
Speaker 6: oral argument that birthright citizenship thing is going down, all right,
1:58:13
Speaker 6: I don't think. I don't think Trump is going to prevail.
1:58:15
Speaker 6: Whatever your views are on that, I think the fourteenth.
1:58:20
Speaker 6: I think the Court will take a literalist view of
1:58:22
Speaker 6: the fourteenth Amendment.
1:58:23
Speaker 1: Fair enough. Judgenna Polatino Judging Freedom is your podcast. You
1:58:26
Speaker 1: have some typical Wednesday Guess or regular Wednesday Guess. Who
1:58:29
Speaker 1: are you gonna be speaking with today?
1:58:31
Speaker 6: I have Colonel Karen Quadkowski, Professor Jeffrey Sachs, Aaron Mate,
1:58:35
Speaker 6: and Phil Giraldi my usual Wednesday lineup. Everybody's waiting for
1:58:42
Speaker 6: the bombs to begin dropping again soon in Tehran.
1:58:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, this wash rense repeat sort of negotiation process, and
1:58:50
Speaker 1: honestly getting a little tired of that. I don't want
1:58:52
Speaker 1: bombs to start dropping necessarily because of the potential futility
1:58:56
Speaker 1: of that, given the massive challenges we face. I sure
1:59:00
Speaker 1: as hell would like to get the uranium out of there,
1:59:01
Speaker 1: but I don't know where this is going. I think
1:59:03
Speaker 1: Donald Trump may have to take one on the chin.
1:59:05
Speaker 1: Just get the thing shut down before the November election,
1:59:07
Speaker 1: because well, we are all feeling the result of the
1:59:09
Speaker 1: inflationary pressures of the straight of horror moves being shut down.
1:59:13
Speaker 6: Correct, And in three weeks we're into the World Cup
1:59:16
Speaker 6: and then summer driving season, and you're going to tell
1:59:20
Speaker 6: Joe Sixpack that he's got to pay twice to fill
1:59:23
Speaker 6: up his pickup what he paid six months ago. He's
1:59:26
Speaker 6: not happy.
1:59:27
Speaker 1: No, I paid ninety dollars to fill my tank the
1:59:30
Speaker 1: other day. Yes it was premium because my car requires it,
1:59:32
Speaker 1: but wow, six bucks a gallon?
1:59:35
Speaker 6: Oh, Brian, in New Jersey, the gas went down. It
1:59:37
Speaker 6: went from five dollars and eighteen cents a gallon the
1:59:40
Speaker 6: five dollars and five cents a gallon. It's still outrageous.
1:59:45
Speaker 1: Well, don't spend that dime in one place, judge, Dapaul Tato,
1:59:49
Speaker 1: God bless you, sir. We'll do this again next Wednesday.
1:59:51
Speaker 1: Take care of yourself.