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Houston Matchup and Trevor on the Run | Jaguars Reporters · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into the Jaguars Reporters podcast. Heading into Week twelve,
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  Speaker 1: JP Shadwick, Ki Stevens, Ryan Sexson, John Osier the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: at seven and three in the Houston Texans at six
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  Speaker 1: and four coming up at NRG Stadium. It's the first
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  Speaker 1: time both teams have been over five hundred when playing
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  Speaker 1: in November or December. Ever, how about that that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing because one team's been good for a while,
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  Speaker 1: Brian and the other teams stunk or vice versa.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the Jaguars have had some moments early on
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  Speaker 2: when the Texans were an expansion team, but you're always
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  Speaker 2: looking at the numbers on this one. The Texans have
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  Speaker 2: won twelve of the last thirteen, seventeen at the last
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  Speaker 2: twenty and twenty nine of forty three in the series.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just been I've been saying Texans not Titans
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  Speaker 2: all week long because the reality of it is, this
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  Speaker 2: is the team that Jaguars fans should be most flummings by,
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  Speaker 2: that they should love to hate, and if they don't already,
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  Speaker 2: I think if this quarterback is as good as he looks,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna have plenty of opportunities in the future. It's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be the rivalry.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I guess maybe if the Jags lose this one,
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  Speaker 3: I would feel like the Texans have some sort of number.
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  Speaker 3: I just always believe with a lot of those streaks
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of streets are bad in favor of
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  Speaker 3: the opponent of the Jaguars, but they've been bad because
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  Speaker 3: the Jaguars have been bad. I don't feel like this
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars team has any sort of undue worry about the
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  Speaker 3: Texans in terms of a hex. I think they worry
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  Speaker 3: because the Texans are are pretty good, and so I
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  Speaker 3: think if the Jaguars play their game this week, if
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  Speaker 3: they play smart, I think they win the game.
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  Speaker 4: Guy, I hope the fans are enjoying the fact that
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  Speaker 4: there's another really good team we thought these rookie quarterbacks
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  Speaker 4: were going to in the division. We're gonna take a
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  Speaker 4: long time to get to that point where they'd be
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  Speaker 4: competing with Trevor Lawrence, and maybe fans are mad about it,
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  Speaker 4: but it's gonna be such a good show to see c. J.
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  Speaker 4: Stroud if he continues to progress the way we expect
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  Speaker 4: him to and Trevor Lawrence to go up head to
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  Speaker 4: head for years to come. These are the matchups that
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  Speaker 4: we used to have with quarterbacks in the same division
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  Speaker 4: going against each other. Those are the ones you're gonna remember.
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  Speaker 1: And we certainly remember Week three when they came in
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  Speaker 1: here and dominated all three phases of the game. Kai
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  Speaker 1: and Jaguars couldn't figure out what was going on. There
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  Speaker 1: was a lot of concern around this team after Week three. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's take the show international, Let's see what happens over
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  Speaker 1: in London. Well, lo and behold. They won five straight
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  Speaker 1: after that game and got some things figured out, But
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  Speaker 1: that Week three game is always there in the back
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  Speaker 1: of your mind.
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  Speaker 4: It feels like definitely a wake up call game. That's
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  Speaker 4: how the team has been using it. But they made
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  Speaker 4: a lot of mistakes. They made a lot of silly mistakes,
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  Speaker 4: and when you look back at it, it seems like
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  Speaker 4: they beat themselves to a certain degree. The Texans took
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  Speaker 4: full advantage of the opportunities given to them, but a
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  Speaker 4: lot of silly Jaguars mistakes. I remember thinking on it.
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  Speaker 4: Every phase of football they were making some sort of
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  Speaker 4: a error. Obviously, that ridiculous kick return by the full back,
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  Speaker 4: we all remember that one was kind of the chairy, heaviest,
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  Speaker 4: every chau.
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  Speaker 2: We're player to ever return a kickoff for a touchdown
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  Speaker 2: and that was your mental history.
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  Speaker 4: That was the chair on top of that day. So
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  Speaker 4: if they can hopefully avoid that, I would imagine it'll
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  Speaker 4: be in Jacksonville's favor.
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  Speaker 2: Evan Ingrad told me yesterday that the Jaguars still have
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  Speaker 2: to figure out how to be the hunted instead of
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  Speaker 2: the hunter. And he thought in week three that they
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  Speaker 2: didn't handle that all that well. And he hoped that
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  Speaker 2: by this point, which is what week twelve, game eleven,
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  Speaker 2: that they had figured out how to go and play
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  Speaker 2: when you know that everybody's giving you their best and
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  Speaker 2: in the division, that's what you're going to get. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the Titans didn't have a best to give. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's not a very good football team. But this Texans
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  Speaker 2: gave them something in Week three. And you know it
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  Speaker 2: will be that place. It's football time in Houston. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they'll be playing that son of a gun, you know,
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  Speaker 2: from the very opening minute of the game, and you
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  Speaker 2: know that those folks would be all riled up. So
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  Speaker 2: the Jaguars have to figure out how to be a
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  Speaker 2: division leader. And I mean, John, you covered a division
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  Speaker 2: leader for ten years. I mean to them, it just
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  Speaker 2: seemed no. Probably just showed up and plays.
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  Speaker 3: It's the biggest game in Houston's the NFL game in
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  Speaker 3: Houston since twenty eighteen, I think twenty nineteen. Because they
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  Speaker 3: just haven't been very good. Look, I forget the exact stat,
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  Speaker 3: but I think turnovers swung twenty seven points in Week three,
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  Speaker 3: and that doesn't even count blocked field goals pass As
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  Speaker 3: you said, Calvin Ridley dropped the pass, just giving up
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  Speaker 3: huge plays because of communication errors. They played bad in
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  Speaker 3: Week three, and I thought the Texans played pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: I just keep going back.
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  Speaker 2: If the Jaguars play the way they.
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  Speaker 3: Did against Tennessee, and I get Tennessee was not a
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  Speaker 3: real test, but if they play just taking what's there
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  Speaker 3: on drives, scoring in the red zone a few times,
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  Speaker 3: getting field goals to keep points, they should win this
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  Speaker 3: game and they should control it because I think they're
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  Speaker 3: the better team if they don't make mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what Trevor Lawrence not putting up astronomic cool numbers.
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  Speaker 1: He had a fine game obviously last week two touchdown passes.
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  Speaker 1: He used his legs twice to get to each pylon
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  Speaker 1: for two more rushing scores and in what two sixties
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  Speaker 1: and passing yards John, But that's just what this team
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  Speaker 1: needs right now. They don't need a four hundred yard
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  Speaker 1: game from forever. They take it, but they don't need it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I wonder. I don't think this is a
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  Speaker 3: great thing for the long term for him, but for
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  Speaker 3: right now, I do wonder if they need to get
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  Speaker 3: him running a little bit early. You know. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think you're gonna see them do eighteen design rollouts a game.
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  Speaker 3: But he does seem to sort of tap into his
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  Speaker 3: Superman mode when he gets outside and feels like maybe
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  Speaker 3: he gets as adrenaline going. Maybe he needs to get
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  Speaker 3: a good run in in the morning, you know. But
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  Speaker 3: there there does seem to be a difference. Once he
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  Speaker 3: got his legs going on Sunday, then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: those those thirty yard passes seemed a lot easier for him.
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  Speaker 2: You remember last year in Lost Angelus, he rolled out
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  Speaker 2: to his right I think it was the third or
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  Speaker 2: fourth drive of the game, and he just fired an
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  Speaker 2: absolute dart on the run to the right, back to
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  Speaker 2: the middle of the field between two defenders for a touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: I do think that when he is moving, he feels good.
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  Speaker 2: He sees the field well, and he obviously has the
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  Speaker 2: arm strength. By the way, I loved his first rushing touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: Here he's looking to the right JP and he starts
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  Speaker 2: to backpedal and know he's got that brace on, but
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  Speaker 2: his footwork was perfect as he's backing and he's still
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  Speaker 2: looking right, and then he decided to go left. He
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  Speaker 2: read the defense. They were all flowing to the opposite side,
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  Speaker 2: and he said, I'm gonnaut run. Jeffrey Simmons, You're right.
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  Speaker 2: Superpower is the way he feels like he's the best
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  Speaker 2: player in the game in moments, and that was one
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  Speaker 2: of them last week. You'd like to see a couple
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  Speaker 2: of those this week.
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  Speaker 4: I know John didn't love the diving for the pylon
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  Speaker 4: plays there.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I just know that in the long run, that
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  Speaker 3: ball out on the one as great as coach as
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  Speaker 3: Bill Belichick forbids his players to do it, and so
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  Speaker 3: it scares me a little bit. At some point we're
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  Speaker 3: going to It's just like when Doug goes for it
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  Speaker 3: on fourth and five. Gns the barry to you, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and at some point that bear's going to eat Trevor,
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  Speaker 3: but the other day they needed it and it.
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  Speaker 4: Looked really smart. Could it work because it worked. When
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't work, then that's when it'll be an issue.
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  Speaker 4: But I think for me as well, we talked a
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  Speaker 4: little bit about it the other day on jag zam Is.
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  Speaker 4: He's been running pre kind of knee injury, even a
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  Speaker 4: little bit in the Saints game. But to see him
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  Speaker 4: run and then setting up the throw on that fourth
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  Speaker 4: down to Dearness Johnson for the big completion, because there's
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  Speaker 4: other points where he looks like he's running for his
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  Speaker 4: life and this was a little bit of running and
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  Speaker 4: then choosing to set up the throw, which is what
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  Speaker 4: you want to see out of Trevor, of progression, not
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  Speaker 4: just running because he has to run. He's running to
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  Speaker 4: get to that throw he wants to make, and that's
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  Speaker 4: not something we've seen a ton of this year. So
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  Speaker 4: for me, that was a nice progression to see.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great example of the fourth down play because
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  Speaker 2: if you go back and watch it, he was waiting
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  Speaker 2: on Calvin Ridley to get open down the field. He
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  Speaker 2: was looking for the big shot, and what I really
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  Speaker 2: appreciated was he was willing to not be greedy, and
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  Speaker 2: he got outside and realized, forget it, he's right there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna take it and go. We've seen Trevor
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  Speaker 2: look downfield and try to take the big shot more
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  Speaker 2: often than necessary and cost this team. So to see
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  Speaker 2: him do that the other day was perfect.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought the other day. I think the difference
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  Speaker 3: is against the Saints he could run, but you even
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  Speaker 3: feel like he could stop just keeping because now he's
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  Speaker 3: got the mobility back to where it's more useful mobility,
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  Speaker 3: if that makes any sense, where he can get outside
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  Speaker 3: the pocket, embrace and do the things he wants to do.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're running against the Saints sort of desperation.
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  Speaker 3: This is more how he can run and be an
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  Speaker 3: effective player, and I do I think for right now,
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  Speaker 3: at this point in his career, he can win from
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  Speaker 3: the pocket, but he gets himself going by being outside
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  Speaker 3: the buy it.
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  Speaker 1: So back in a moment. Doug Peterson, Tamiko Ryans, the
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  Speaker 1: coaching matchup, and our final thoughts. It's Jaguars Reporters. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: back to the Jaguars Reporters podcast. GP Shadow, John Oserbrian Sexson,
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  Speaker 1: Kay Stevens, the Jaguars and the Texans coming up this
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  Speaker 1: Sunday at NRG Stadium in Houston and the coaching matchup
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  Speaker 1: to look forward to. Doug Peterson of course has this
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  Speaker 1: a Jaguars team in first place, and first year head
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  Speaker 1: coach Damiko Ryans. We saw him obviously in Week three
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  Speaker 1: and what he's done so far this year with this
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  Speaker 1: team in Houston, Kai and hey, this could be another
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  Speaker 1: matchup to watch for a while in this division.
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  Speaker 4: It's just impressive to see what he's been able to
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  Speaker 4: do with the roster that he has, because if you
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  Speaker 4: look at it on paper, you're like, how is he
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  Speaker 4: getting all of this out of the players he has
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  Speaker 4: on their team because they've had a lot of offensive
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  Speaker 4: line issues, you know, not a bunch of names you know,
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  Speaker 4: necessarily elsewhere on the team. But he's gotten them to believe.
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  Speaker 4: And I think John You've said this before, that confidence
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  Speaker 4: in yourself can get you pretty far, especially on a
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  Speaker 4: young team, and at this point in the season, to
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  Speaker 4: still be that confident is partially what's carrying them. And
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  Speaker 4: also obviously CJ. Stroud doing what he's done in limited
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  Speaker 4: time in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just believe coaching in the NFL is ninety
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  Speaker 3: five percent culture. I hate that that word, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking about building that and getting your players to
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  Speaker 3: believe in what you're saying. And it's about five percent
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  Speaker 3: the machinations that go on Sunday. Everything I've heard is
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  Speaker 3: that much like last year when you walked around this
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  Speaker 3: place after Doug Peterson got here and went.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, this is how it's supposed to be. This is
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  Speaker 2: cool again.
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  Speaker 3: You get the idea that they're walking around Houston saying, oh,
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  Speaker 3: football is fun, let's go play. I believe in this guy.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Think this is going to be probably for within reason,
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  Speaker 3: as long as these two guys want to coach, they're
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  Speaker 3: gonna be coaching againsting each other.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Sunday's game is not quite Eagles Chiefs, right, but
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  Speaker 2: it's probably the big game of Sunday, And it's deluded
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  Speaker 2: a little bit because you've got the games on Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 2: Day in the Black Friday game this week, but it's
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  Speaker 2: the game on Sunday, and it speaks to him being
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  Speaker 2: maybe the coach of the year with the offensive rookie
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  Speaker 2: of the year. He's done a hell of a job
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  Speaker 2: and you just you see a roster that's not as
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  Speaker 2: good as the Jaguars. That plays hard. I mean, Jonathan
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  Speaker 2: Greenard has seven sacks. I mean last year, the guy
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  Speaker 2: couldn't get anything done. He's getting the most out of
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  Speaker 2: his guys. I think he's tremendous. I always liked him
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  Speaker 2: as a player. He was that guy who could run
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  Speaker 2: sideline the sideline wasn't the biggest, wasn't the fastest, but
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  Speaker 2: always seemed to me making the tackle by the shoe
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  Speaker 2: strings that kept you from getting a first down. His
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  Speaker 2: team is just playing that way. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Jack Sexan's coming up Sunday. Between now and then it's Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 1: So what is the Thanksgiving food you're most looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to this year?
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  Speaker 2: John?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my wife makes a very good squashed cast role,
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  Speaker 3: which is better than it sounds. It's very very good.
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  Speaker 3: I would have never thought growing up. Boy, I can't
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  Speaker 3: wait to get me some squash cast role.
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  Speaker 4: But it just great. I believe that we think, I think.
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  Speaker 4: I know there's some debate about this. Mac and cheese
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  Speaker 4: is the best part of Thanksgiving because the best part
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  Speaker 4: of every meal. But I know some people don't have.
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  Speaker 2: That orders japing it should be a part of every meal.
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  Speaker 4: I think mac and cheese is my favorite but I
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  Speaker 4: do love stuffing of course as well.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want Thanksgiving with either one of you guys,
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  Speaker 2: because I don't like squash or mac and cheese. I
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  Speaker 2: like to cook. I'm not the eater. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: don't get wrong. I like the flavors. But I love
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  Speaker 2: the answer the question I like to cook. I can't wait.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do two turkeys. I'm gonna do one in
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  Speaker 2: a southern tradition, even though I'm from the Midwest. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna fry it, and then I'm gonna do one on
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  Speaker 2: my smoker. And I just love the whole process. It's
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  Speaker 2: my favorite holiday. I get up early, I open a
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  Speaker 2: bottle of wine, and I start cooking at about six am,
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  Speaker 2: and I enjoy every bit of it. If I get
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  Speaker 2: to eat at the end of the day, more the better.
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  Speaker 3: I get up early, open a beer, I don't cook it.
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  Speaker 2: Turn on the TV.
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  Speaker 1: It's about it. Let's see how about you.
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  Speaker 2: You can answer the green bean cast roles.
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  Speaker 1: Probably you're one of those two. I am one of those.
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  Speaker 1: I also like the dressing, especially if you're can get
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  Speaker 1: oysters in it. But they aren't going to be serving
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  Speaker 1: that in Detroit.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, the green Bean Castle, maybe a turkey like
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  Speaker 1: and then and then the leftovers are sometimes better than the.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the next couple of days.
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  Speaker 2: With a lot of butter on the Raywine rolls, got them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm hungry, John Oser, Ryan sext and Kay Stevens. Happy
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  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving on j P. Shadwick. Will catch you next time
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  Speaker 1: on Jaguars Reporters