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- 2:11Speaker 1: NFL Playoffs of Greg co cell Man. This is good.
- 2:16Speaker 1: It's been a while. It's been a few years. It's
- 2:18Speaker 1: been three years, to be exact, since last week. Last
- 2:21Speaker 1: week did this? Yeah, Greg, I'm in this o'quama casino,
- 2:23Speaker 1: and I got Seahawk fans walking by. Go Hawks. Huh,
- 2:27Speaker 1: there we go.
- 2:28Speaker 4: Huh.
- 2:29Speaker 1: Let's go, ladies, Huh, let's go. The twelves are here
- 2:32Speaker 1: in mass or at least a few of them. Uh,
- 2:34Speaker 1: in the early afternoon hours. I joke. It has been
- 2:38Speaker 1: a while. The last time we saw a Seahawks playoff
- 2:40Speaker 1: game three years ago, and it was the same San
- 2:42Speaker 1: Francisco team, although it was in San Francisco. This time around,
- 2:46Speaker 1: it's obviously here in Seattle. But Greg, great to have
- 2:48Speaker 1: you here. It's great to talk a little playoff football
- 2:50Speaker 1: with you, my friend. How are you?
- 2:52Speaker 4: I'm doing great, I and how you doing? Yeah, it's fine.
- 2:54Speaker 4: It's we got the playoffs and the first the first
- 2:56Speaker 4: game tomorrow too. They open it up.
- 2:58Speaker 1: No, they're the second game. They're the second game. They're
- 3:00Speaker 1: the second game. They have the fun.
- 3:03Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Denver and right, Denver and Buffalo is the
- 3:05Speaker 4: first game, right right you.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Unfortunately it's late for you. It'll be eight o'clock for
- 3:09Speaker 1: you on the East coast, so I'm assuming you won't
- 3:10Speaker 1: see that until next the Sunday morning. Right, That's how
- 3:13Speaker 1: it works.
- 3:13Speaker 4: See see, you know, we'll see how it goes. You know, well,
- 3:17Speaker 4: we'll see, you know, I cause I got to I
- 3:19Speaker 4: actually have to get up real early Sunday morning because
- 3:21Speaker 4: I do a radio show on FS one. But we'll
- 3:25Speaker 4: see how it goes.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Man, you're a busy guy, busy guy this time of
- 3:28Speaker 1: the year.
- 3:28Speaker 4: Well, let's well, you know, let's get to just talking football.
- 3:33Speaker 1: And you know, that's all it is. Let's get to it.
- 3:36Speaker 1: I'm curious because the last time these teams played Week eighteen,
- 3:41Speaker 1: Seattle comes away with a wins and two hundred yards
- 3:43Speaker 1: of offense for San Francisco in that game, and they
- 3:46Speaker 1: had George Kittle that game as well. Greg, What what
- 3:50Speaker 1: happened in that game like that is not a Kyle
- 3:52Speaker 1: Shanahan offense at all.
- 3:54Speaker 4: No, you know, it's funny that game I watched on
- 3:57Speaker 4: TV as well, and just watching it on TV through
- 4:02Speaker 4: the first quarter and a half, you know, we may
- 4:04Speaker 4: have discussed this maybe we haven't. I guess we haven't.
- 4:07Speaker 4: Is you got the feeling for sure that that game
- 4:13Speaker 4: was not a Niner game because the Niners are all
- 4:15Speaker 4: about running plays and controlling the pace and tempo of
- 4:18Speaker 4: the game with their offense, and they could not do
- 4:21Speaker 4: that in that game. They only ended up running forty
- 4:24Speaker 4: two offensive plays, which is an unheard of number in
- 4:27Speaker 4: an NFL game. Kyle Shanahan, as you well know, is
- 4:30Speaker 4: not a you know, gimmick, let's try a cool play
- 4:33Speaker 4: kind of coach. Now, will he do that rarely, as
- 4:36Speaker 4: he did last week and as he did in the
- 4:38Speaker 4: Super Bowl two years ago against the Chiefs. Yeah, but
- 4:41Speaker 4: that's not really who he is. He's all about a
- 4:45Speaker 4: system systematically controlling a defense through the course of four quarters,
- 4:51Speaker 4: and that game just got away from them very early.
- 4:55Speaker 4: The Seahawks had a long drive to start, then the
- 4:57Speaker 4: forty nine Ers went three and out, Then the Seahawks
- 4:59Speaker 4: had another long drive, and all of a sudden, even
- 5:02Speaker 4: though the score wasn't out of hand, it just did
- 5:04Speaker 4: not feel like a forty nine Er game at all.
- 5:07Speaker 4: And I thought that the Seahawks controlled the line of
- 5:10Speaker 4: scrimmage on both sides of the ball, in that game.
- 5:13Speaker 4: There's other factors too, we can get to in a moment,
- 5:15Speaker 4: but I don't want to give less soliloqually here. But
- 5:18Speaker 4: I mean that's kind of the overriding point of that game, the.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Fact they didn't have Trent Williams. And I listen, he's
- 5:27Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer.
- 5:29Speaker 4: That's a big deal.
- 5:30Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big deal. I always at least of
- 5:32Speaker 1: my friends like John Lunn down in the Bay Area,
- 5:34Speaker 1: when they point that out. I like to point out
- 5:36Speaker 1: too that Seattle didn't have Charles Cross and Josh Jones
- 5:40Speaker 1: was playing on one and a half legs. But Trent
- 5:43Speaker 1: Williams will stay with that for it just a second.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Trent Willms a big loss in that game. He's back.
- 5:48Speaker 1: How much of a difference does he make?
- 5:50Speaker 4: Well, I think he expands their run game because you
- 5:53Speaker 4: can do more things with him that you can't do
- 5:55Speaker 4: with pleasants who came in and did you know Yeoman's
- 5:57Speaker 4: work as a backup. But Trend Williams, as you said,
- 6:01Speaker 4: he's a Hall of Famer. The athleticism and mobility, the
- 6:04Speaker 4: fact that he can get outside, and he just gives
- 6:06Speaker 4: them so many more options in a very multiple and
- 6:09Speaker 4: diverse run game. So yes, it is a big deal. Now,
- 6:13Speaker 4: having said that, I think that the most maybe not
- 6:16Speaker 4: in Seattle, but I think around the league the most
- 6:19Speaker 4: overlooked element of Seattle's defense are Leonard Williams and Byron Murphy. Inside,
- 6:24Speaker 4: it is really difficult to run the ball inside against
- 6:28Speaker 4: Seattle's defense. Those two guys are outstanding. You know, Murphy
- 6:32Speaker 4: is as good as there is in the league in
- 6:33Speaker 4: terms of stalemating and defeating double teams. And if he
- 6:37Speaker 4: can do that, that makes it really hard to run inside.
- 6:40Speaker 4: And I think that, like I said, there's many really
- 6:43Speaker 4: strong pieces to this defense, but I think that those
- 6:46Speaker 4: two players really make it very, very difficult to run
- 6:50Speaker 4: the ball. And I'll be very curious to see how
- 6:53Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan believes that they can run the ball. You know,
- 6:57Speaker 4: what kinds of runs will he believe can be successful
- 7:00Speaker 4: against this defense. Because the Niners, even though they won
- 7:04Speaker 4: this past week without McCaffrey being a big factor, foundationally,
- 7:09Speaker 4: they feel that the running game has to be a
- 7:11Speaker 4: sustaining factor in their offense.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Yeah, we're still trying to scratch our he We're scratching
- 7:16Speaker 1: our heads here, still wondering how Byron Murphy didn't receive
- 7:18Speaker 1: any postseason NFL awards. I mean, okay, he's not an
- 7:21Speaker 1: All Pro, but he didn't even get mentioned as a bobbler.
- 7:25Speaker 4: I'm just watching tape and I'm not going to sit
- 7:26Speaker 4: here and say I charted every defensive tackle, so take
- 7:29Speaker 4: it for what it's worth. But I do, as you know,
- 7:31Speaker 4: watch a lot of tape, and I felt that the
- 7:33Speaker 4: best d tackle in the NFL this year was Jeffrey Simmons,
- 7:36Speaker 4: and I felt that Byron Murphy was the second best
- 7:38Speaker 4: guy that I saw on tape, you know, for the
- 7:40Speaker 4: amount of tape that I watch. Like I said, I'm
- 7:42Speaker 4: not charting everybody. So someone might say, oh, no, you're wrong,
- 7:45Speaker 4: and that's fine, you know, it's not. It's not a contest.
- 7:48Speaker 4: But I thought Byron Murphy played at an exceptionally high
- 7:51Speaker 4: level this year.
- 7:52Speaker 1: Well, and they rotate it's you got Williams, you got Murphy,
- 7:54Speaker 1: you got Jaron Reid.
- 7:55Speaker 2: You know.
- 7:56Speaker 1: I mean, they're I think that's the key, right, the
- 7:58Speaker 1: depth on the defensive line sometimes and now.
- 8:01Speaker 4: They're getting my guy from Notre Dame Millsden, who I
- 8:03Speaker 4: really like coming out. I watched him the year before
- 8:06Speaker 4: before he tore his ACL and Notre Dame in his
- 8:08Speaker 4: last year, but even I watched him in his last year,
- 8:10Speaker 4: and I think he's a guy that I'll end up
- 8:12Speaker 4: being a really nice rotational player as he plays more.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Greg Coselle joining us Curtsey A Salsutter. Greg, I'm curious
- 8:19Speaker 1: about the McCaffrey thing, basically week eighteen and then last
- 8:22Speaker 1: week of the Wildcard round, two weeks in which he
- 8:24Speaker 1: just has not got going on the ground. One week
- 8:26Speaker 1: obviously without without Trent Williams, as we just discussed, But
- 8:31Speaker 1: you know, is it because of the lack of a
- 8:34Speaker 1: I don't know, the passing game. Perties will talk about
- 8:37Speaker 1: him in a second, and we'll get to the Kittle thing.
- 8:38Speaker 1: That's a huge deal, but no Kiddle blocking. We'll just
- 8:41Speaker 1: talk about that. Why do you think they haven't been
- 8:43Speaker 1: able to get that running game going?
- 8:46Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great question. I mean, you know, there'll
- 8:48Speaker 4: be a lot of different discussion points about that. I
- 8:51Speaker 4: spoke with a coach today who's played the Niners, and
- 8:54Speaker 4: he felt that McCaffrey is not exactly what he used
- 8:57Speaker 4: to be, you know, so he would certainly know better
- 9:01Speaker 4: than I. He's a coach a defensive coach that played
- 9:03Speaker 4: against him, and he's studying him in greater detail than
- 9:05Speaker 4: I study him, even though I look at him every week.
- 9:08Speaker 4: So I'm not going to say he's wrong. You know,
- 9:10Speaker 4: he knows more than I do. You know, he didn't
- 9:13Speaker 4: really break runs this year. I mean, he had one
- 9:15Speaker 4: long run. I forget that was which game that was,
- 9:18Speaker 4: but he had I think a forty yarder. But for
- 9:21Speaker 4: the most part, you know, it's been a grind, you know.
- 9:25Speaker 4: And he's a very hard runner. I mean he's he's
- 9:29Speaker 4: a true hard yards runner. He's a sustainer now, but
- 9:32Speaker 4: there have been no really breakaway runs this year. And
- 9:36Speaker 4: look again, it's easy to see the access to the
- 9:38Speaker 4: results and say, gee, maybe he's just lost that half
- 9:41Speaker 4: a step. As I said, I spoke to a coach
- 9:43Speaker 4: who believes that's so. So maybe that's the case. But
- 9:46Speaker 4: the one thing about him is he does run really,
- 9:49Speaker 4: really hard.
- 9:51Speaker 1: Well, let's get to the George Kittle situation, because I
- 9:53Speaker 1: think it's two fold. The great Cosale joining his courtesy Seattlesider,
- 9:56Speaker 1: we're previewing, of course tomorrow's game. It's massive. We'll get
- 10:00Speaker 1: to Kittle in the receiving game. I kind of want
- 10:02Speaker 1: to split it up if we can, Greg, because I
- 10:05Speaker 1: think a lot of fans look around the league, and
- 10:07Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to diminish what you know
- 10:09Speaker 1: people's knowledge is. But you know, we think of Kittle
- 10:11Speaker 1: a lot of times as a pass catcher. You see
- 10:13Speaker 1: the long hair, you see the demonstra right things afterwards,
- 10:16Speaker 1: and we'll get to that part, but I believe you're
- 10:20Speaker 1: going to tell me that George Kittle is really integral
- 10:23Speaker 1: to their pass blocking or to their run block game,
- 10:25Speaker 1: to the running game. Just with this run blocking. How
- 10:27Speaker 1: much of a loss is it in that part of
- 10:29Speaker 1: the game for San.
- 10:30Speaker 4: Francisco, it's a It's a really big deal because it's
- 10:33Speaker 4: not only the fact that he can physically block, it's
- 10:36Speaker 4: the kinds of runs you can run that require him
- 10:39Speaker 4: to do that. So now you know Jake tung Is,
- 10:42Speaker 4: he's done very well when he's played. They've got Ferrell.
- 10:46Speaker 4: You know, these aren't bad players. But again the question becomes,
- 10:50Speaker 4: does it limit what they can do with their their
- 10:52Speaker 4: run game concepts. That's the key, you know, because the
- 10:55Speaker 4: last thing you want to do, and the Niners are
- 10:58Speaker 4: a very diverse and multiple run game when they're at
- 11:00Speaker 4: their best. Now, does Kyle Shanahan feel that he has
- 11:02Speaker 4: to limit the number of run concepts that he can
- 11:06Speaker 4: that he can run because he does not have Kittle?
- 11:09Speaker 4: So you know, we don't know the answer to that
- 11:11Speaker 4: till they play, but there's no question it's a concern
- 11:14Speaker 4: for the Niners because Kittle is you know, is really good,
- 11:18Speaker 4: as I said, not just as an individual blocker who,
- 11:21Speaker 4: by the way, can block defensive ends one on one,
- 11:23Speaker 4: but also in what they can do with him as
- 11:25Speaker 4: a motion player, as a movement player. So there's there's
- 11:29Speaker 4: a lot of factors there.
- 11:31Speaker 1: When Kyle Shanahan Greg Greg Cosell with us and I'm
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- 11:41Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan looks down at his play sheet. How different
- 11:44Speaker 1: is it going to look without eighty five out there
- 11:47Speaker 1: in the passing game as well?
- 11:49Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I again, those are hard questions to answer,
- 11:53Speaker 4: but you know, I'll give you a great example the
- 11:57Speaker 4: winning touchdown they scored this past week, which ended Upana McCaffrey,
- 12:00Speaker 4: who was not the primary and probably was the fourth
- 12:03Speaker 4: or fifth option, just the way the play played out.
- 12:06Speaker 4: That play, my guess is it was actually designed for
- 12:09Speaker 4: George Kittle, even though he was not in the game.
- 12:11Speaker 4: That's a play that when they put in, I'm sure
- 12:13Speaker 4: it was designed for Kittle because ultimately the number the
- 12:16Speaker 4: read was Tonguus Jake Tungas. That's the way the play
- 12:19Speaker 4: was designed. So I'm sure when they put it in
- 12:21Speaker 4: during the week that was Kittle, but they still ran
- 12:24Speaker 4: the play.
- 12:24Speaker 1: You know.
- 12:25Speaker 4: So I'm not a Look, I'm not a coach, and
- 12:28Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not pretending I know the answer to
- 12:30Speaker 4: these questions the end, because I don't. So I'm not
- 12:32Speaker 4: gonna sit here and say I do. We know a
- 12:34Speaker 4: lot of people that say these things you don't mean
- 12:36Speaker 4: well enough to know. I don't say the things that
- 12:38Speaker 4: I don't feel like I know about. But but it's
- 12:41Speaker 4: a there's a definite balancing act here, because you can't
- 12:44Speaker 4: limit your offense so much to the point where it's
- 12:47Speaker 4: too easy to defend. You know that that becomes the
- 12:50Speaker 4: other issue, you know, because then you just reduce it
- 12:53Speaker 4: to the point where it becomes way too easy for
- 12:56Speaker 4: Mike McDonald and this defense, and then it's and it's
- 12:59Speaker 4: a great defense to begin.
- 13:00Speaker 1: With Purty versus a Seattle secondary. Jennings, We're not sure
- 13:05Speaker 1: about Pierce. All situation Listen is questionable, right, but you
- 13:08Speaker 1: know Seattle Secondary has come on. We've talked about those guys.
- 13:12Speaker 1: Riek Wolan looks like a better player every week. He's
- 13:14Speaker 1: going to getting back in his old days. So give
- 13:17Speaker 1: me your thoughts on what you're looking for when you're
- 13:19Speaker 1: gonna watch the tape on Sunday night or Monday morning.
- 13:22Speaker 1: When you watch the tape, what do you think you're
- 13:23Speaker 1: gonna see? What are you looking for with Purdy versus
- 13:25Speaker 1: that secondary?
- 13:26Speaker 4: I mean, we know that they play basically Big Nickel
- 13:30Speaker 4: and Dyne. That's basically what they play. Every once in
- 13:33Speaker 4: a while, depending on situation, they'll throw in their five
- 13:36Speaker 4: to two front, but they normally don't take him and
- 13:38Speaker 4: Worry off the field. So you know, in a sense,
- 13:41Speaker 4: the way they use them and Worry even though it's
- 13:44Speaker 4: big Nickel because he's a safety, he's basically a sam
- 13:47Speaker 4: linebacker in a four to three. That's basically who he is,
- 13:51Speaker 4: the way they deploy him, so you know, and he's
- 13:54Speaker 4: a really integral part of this. You know, they do
- 13:57Speaker 4: a lot of things on the back end. You know,
- 13:59Speaker 4: I think at the end of the day, McDonald is
- 14:01Speaker 4: more of a two shell guy than a single high guy,
- 14:04Speaker 4: although he will go to you know, everybody goes to
- 14:06Speaker 4: single high at some point, but I think he's more
- 14:08Speaker 4: of a two shell guy. And I think even when
- 14:11Speaker 4: they pressure, their their pressures are high percentage zone pressures
- 14:16Speaker 4: as opposed to man pressures, and even in their zone pressures,
- 14:19Speaker 4: they keep kind of that that shell look behind it.
- 14:23Speaker 4: So you know, that's that's kind of who they are.
- 14:26Speaker 4: And uh, but you know, they're they're really very very good.
- 14:30Speaker 4: It's it's a it's a tough defense to play against
- 14:33Speaker 4: with its combination of what they do tactically and the people.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Sat didn't score much the last time they played. Uh,
- 14:39Speaker 1: you know it. And you know, but which is odd
- 14:42Speaker 1: I think in a sense because it feels like with
- 14:45Speaker 1: all and Fred Warner will not play. We found that
- 14:47Speaker 1: out on Thursday. Yes, yeah, so he's not gonna play.
- 14:51Speaker 1: Kendricks is in there. Uh, they're missing obviously Bosa as well.
- 14:54Speaker 1: So yeah, just I'll just throw it out there, open
- 14:57Speaker 1: end and what what what should we be watching as
- 14:58Speaker 1: far as the Seattle offense and against that forty nine
- 15:01Speaker 1: or defense led by Robert Sola.
- 15:02Speaker 4: The forty nine Ers, the forty nine Ers defense is
- 15:06Speaker 4: is relatively static. You know, they're not one of those
- 15:10Speaker 4: defenses that does a ton of things. Now again, there's
- 15:12Speaker 4: always nuance within particular basic defensive concepts, but you know,
- 15:18Speaker 4: their linebackers are critical in their in their zone coverage schemes.
- 15:22Speaker 4: You know, one or was the best is the best
- 15:24Speaker 4: in the league as a zone coverage linebacker. But I
- 15:27Speaker 4: thought that Walla, Wallow and Kendricks played really well last week,
- 15:32Speaker 4: and you know, and that was one of the reasons
- 15:34Speaker 4: they won. But obviously they're not They're not Warner, but
- 15:37Speaker 4: you know they're they're I guess what I'm trying to
- 15:40Speaker 4: say is by NFL standards, and that's that's what I
- 15:43Speaker 4: go by. They're not necessarily a complex defense. You know,
- 15:47Speaker 4: I'm sure if Robert Sala was here, he'd say, Hey,
- 15:49Speaker 4: they do a lot of things within their their basic structures,
- 15:51Speaker 4: which they do, but overall, you know, you're not going
- 15:54Speaker 4: to get a ton of of multiple pressure looks. You're
- 15:57Speaker 4: not going to get a ton of of gleat coverage rotation.
- 16:01Speaker 4: They'll do some of you know, everybody does some of everything, obviously,
- 16:04Speaker 4: but for the most part, their coverage tendency is more
- 16:08Speaker 4: static than multiple and movement based.
- 16:12Speaker 1: Seattle was able to control the ball as you mentioned
- 16:14Speaker 1: in that game. I do feel as if the Seattle
- 16:17Speaker 1: running game has come along a little bit the last
- 16:19Speaker 1: few weeks. Are you seeing that on tape?
- 16:22Speaker 4: Well, I mean that was a key key element in
- 16:25Speaker 4: that game. I mean, you know, they combined charbon At
- 16:30Speaker 4: and Walker combined thirty three for one seventy one against
- 16:34Speaker 4: the Niners, and that's something that they have not really
- 16:37Speaker 4: done much of this year. You know, Walker, you know,
- 16:41Speaker 4: obviously getting a thousand yards now in seventeen games in
- 16:43Speaker 4: and of itself doesn't mean wow, he had a great year,
- 16:46Speaker 4: but he did get over a thousand sharbon At, you know,
- 16:48Speaker 4: had twelve touchdowns. Turned out to be much more of
- 16:51Speaker 4: a factor than I thought. But they obviously felt that
- 16:54Speaker 4: he could be that he and he was and they
- 16:57Speaker 4: they you know, I think they did a really nice
- 16:59Speaker 4: jar thought. Charbonny's touchdown run in that game was just
- 17:02Speaker 4: beautifully schemed and designed to create that edge because they
- 17:07Speaker 4: used Cup as a movement guy and they ended up
- 17:10Speaker 4: with kind of an open age so you know, I
- 17:14Speaker 4: thought they did a really good job schematically, and I
- 17:16Speaker 4: thought they were able to, you know, attack the edges
- 17:20Speaker 4: of the forty nine er defense in that game really consistently.
- 17:23Speaker 4: And I thought Darnold played you know, and this might
- 17:26Speaker 4: sound crazy because he didn't throw for three hundred and
- 17:28Speaker 4: fifty yards or all, but I thought he played one
- 17:30Speaker 4: of his best games of the season because he played
- 17:32Speaker 4: to that game. That game required efficiency and a methodical
- 17:37Speaker 4: nature and a surgical nature as opposed to let's toss
- 17:40Speaker 4: it down the field and try to hit home runs,
- 17:42Speaker 4: you know, And I thought he played really really well
- 17:45Speaker 4: to what that game was.
- 17:47Speaker 1: Greg, we're revisiting this because it's I mean, this is strange.
- 17:51Speaker 1: It doesn't happen where you're playing the same team back
- 17:53Speaker 1: to back weeks, but that's the case for Seattle. So
- 17:55Speaker 1: I want to go back down and talk about Lenor
- 17:58Speaker 1: versus JSN. We mentioned it. It bears repeating by you.
- 18:03Speaker 1: Leonor for the most part, right, will not follow JSN
- 18:06Speaker 1: round right.
- 18:08Speaker 4: No, they don't play that way. Now again, I'm not
- 18:10Speaker 4: gonna sit here and say you're never ever going to
- 18:12Speaker 4: see that, because I you know, we don't know when
- 18:14Speaker 4: you get to a playoff game when teams start to
- 18:16Speaker 4: do things a little bit differently. But normally they play
- 18:20Speaker 4: sides green and Leonora plays sides, you know, so they
- 18:24Speaker 4: they they are not a match up defense in that regard.
- 18:28Speaker 4: So again, does that mean they'll never match up, We
- 18:31Speaker 4: don't know that, but that's not the way they've played
- 18:33Speaker 4: this season.
- 18:35Speaker 1: Really it comes down to, you know, someone's gonna make
- 18:39Speaker 1: a play, and this is the playoffs. I was just
- 18:41Speaker 1: looking back at some of the highlights of you know,
- 18:44Speaker 1: of yester year, Greg when when we you know, when
- 18:46Speaker 1: this team was going to the postseason every single year,
- 18:49Speaker 1: and you know what, it was wild someone always in
- 18:52Speaker 1: this is playoff football, period, whether it was last week's
- 18:55Speaker 1: kind of trick play that they ran with Jennings throwing
- 18:58Speaker 1: the ball for San Francisco or go back, you know,
- 19:01Speaker 1: Jermaine Curse in the twenty thirteen game and an incredible
- 19:04Speaker 1: play in the end zone on a pass from Russell
- 19:06Speaker 1: Wilson and that, you know, and Kwan Bolden had a
- 19:08Speaker 1: big play in that game. And there's always those guys
- 19:11Speaker 1: are gonna come up and you know, kind of step
- 19:13Speaker 1: up along the way. I'm gonna throw one at you
- 19:15Speaker 1: because he's had a fairly quiet year catching the ball.
- 19:18Speaker 1: You've talked about him in the run game a lot.
- 19:21Speaker 1: I just there's something that tells me that Cooper Cup,
- 19:23Speaker 1: with all of his experience and being there and doing that,
- 19:26Speaker 1: could be a factor in this game.
- 19:28Speaker 4: Greg could be but just to throw something down. And
- 19:31Speaker 4: I guarantee Mike McDonald's and staff know this. But you know,
- 19:34Speaker 4: Juwon Jennings is a four star quarterback crew coming out
- 19:37Speaker 4: of high school, So I guarantee they know that. But yeah,
- 19:43Speaker 4: I mean Cup. You know, obviously he's not been a
- 19:46Speaker 4: volume target in their offense for you know, most of
- 19:49Speaker 4: the season, the large majority of the season. But you know,
- 19:52Speaker 4: he's a professional receiver. Know, you never know how a
- 19:55Speaker 4: game is gonna play out. It's not that he's incapable,
- 19:58Speaker 4: you know, you just don't know how a game is
- 20:00Speaker 4: going to play out. Now, just looking at these two teams,
- 20:03Speaker 4: I think we'd I think we'd be surprised, but you
- 20:06Speaker 4: never know. If this game was like a thirty five
- 20:08Speaker 4: to thirty one game, I think we'd be surprised. Yes,
- 20:11Speaker 4: that's the way this game played out. You know, I
- 20:13Speaker 4: think we're we'd probably look at this game more as
- 20:15Speaker 4: a twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen kind of game. So
- 20:20Speaker 4: you know, as assuming you know, no health issue with
- 20:23Speaker 4: Darnold and he plays the whole game, then you know,
- 20:30Speaker 4: will they take a shot here and there? For sure
- 20:32Speaker 4: they're gonna you know, it's not like they're just going
- 20:33Speaker 4: to say, you know, let's let's put the car in
- 20:35Speaker 4: the garage and not even take it out for a spin.
- 20:37Speaker 4: But I mean, I don't think that this is going
- 20:39Speaker 4: to be a game where they're looking to you know,
- 20:41Speaker 4: keep pushing it and pushing it and pushing it, because
- 20:43Speaker 4: I don't think that the score will dictate that.
- 20:46Speaker 1: Great co sal saying is going to be a close game.
- 20:48Speaker 1: That means Seahawk fans will be stressed out tomorrow from
- 20:50Speaker 1: five pm to eight pm Pacific. It'll be a stressful game.
- 20:53Speaker 1: It's always stressful in the playoffs, isn't it, Greg. It's
- 20:55Speaker 1: always stressful for the hometown for all the fans.
- 20:58Speaker 4: Tell you what though last weekend, last weekend was crazy
- 21:01Speaker 4: with all those fourth quarters. I mean that's you know,
- 21:03Speaker 4: I mean for someone like myself who doesn't have a
- 21:05Speaker 4: horse and they're razy, and you know, that just makes
- 21:07Speaker 4: it so much fun to watch.
- 21:09Speaker 1: Greg, do you think that that at any point in
- 21:12Speaker 1: time tomorrow that the if the La Rams are leading
- 21:14Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, do you think they'll ever feel comfortable
- 21:17Speaker 1: knowing that the Bears have had all these two minute
- 21:19Speaker 1: comebacks this season, Like, you're never gonna feel comfortable if
- 21:22Speaker 1: you're in Chicago, right, if you're McVeigh and you have
- 21:24Speaker 1: a lead.
- 21:25Speaker 4: Now, you know, no, And the one thing that I
- 21:28Speaker 4: always tell people, and you know what, particularly when you
- 21:30Speaker 4: get to the playoff where you're playing better teams obviously,
- 21:33Speaker 4: is if there's a part of your team that is
- 21:35Speaker 4: either a weakness or not what you'd call a strain,
- 21:37Speaker 4: I'm never surprised when that gets exploited because that's what
- 21:41Speaker 4: you know. It's just that's the nature of football. These
- 21:44Speaker 4: coaches are pretty smart. You know that you've been doing
- 21:46Speaker 4: this a long time. I mean, you know, it's funny
- 21:48Speaker 4: you mentioned that game because the weakness of the Rams defense,
- 21:51Speaker 4: which is overall very good, are their corners. So it
- 21:54Speaker 4: would not surprise me if if Williams threw for a
- 21:57Speaker 4: lot of yards. I mean, that wouldn't surprise you. Although
- 22:00Speaker 4: it's supposed to be fifteen below with the wind chill.
- 22:03Speaker 1: Yeah, which which I was in the I was in
- 22:05Speaker 1: Minnesota for that game a few years ago when it
- 22:07Speaker 1: was the twenty sixteen seventeen whenever it was with the
- 22:10Speaker 1: Seahawks and the Minnesota Vikings played outdoors at the University
- 22:13Speaker 1: of Minnesota Stadium when it was that same that's no fun.
- 22:15Speaker 1: I can tell you right now, even sitting in the
- 22:17Speaker 1: press polls, it's no fun.
- 22:19Speaker 4: What isn't that the game where Wilson threw like four
- 22:21Speaker 4: or five picks and then they came back and won.
- 22:23Speaker 1: They well, that was the That was the NFC championship
- 22:26Speaker 1: game in twenty fourteen twenty fourteen seasons. Okay, that was
- 22:29Speaker 1: the game. Blair Walsh missed a chip shot field goal
- 22:31Speaker 1: to win it for Minnesota at the end, and then
- 22:35Speaker 1: Seattle led up signing him after that the next year,
- 22:37Speaker 1: which is odd. But anyway, I digress. Can you give
- 22:40Speaker 1: me in a minute or less because you just said
- 22:42Speaker 1: something that intrigued me and I think a lot of
- 22:43Speaker 1: our listeners be curious about what is the weakness for
- 22:47Speaker 1: the Seahawks that the forty nine ers would want to exploit?
- 22:49Speaker 1: And same thing, what's the weakness for the forty nine
- 22:51Speaker 1: ers the Seahawks would want to exploit.
- 22:54Speaker 5: Wow.
- 22:55Speaker 4: I mean, look, the bottom line is is the forty
- 22:57Speaker 4: nine ers do not have a quality pass rush. Now again,
- 22:59Speaker 4: that doesn't mean they're gonna have Donald to drop back
- 23:01Speaker 4: forty five times, but they do not have a quality
- 23:04Speaker 4: pass rush at all. So you know, I think that
- 23:07Speaker 4: Donald for the most part should be secure in the pocket.
- 23:09Speaker 4: So I think you will see them take some shots.
- 23:12Speaker 4: On the other side. For Seattle Boy, their defense does
- 23:16Speaker 4: not really present, you know, a truly defined weakness. I mean,
- 23:20Speaker 4: I don't you know, they're just really good at all
- 23:23Speaker 4: three levels.
- 23:23Speaker 1: I mean I don't.
- 23:24Speaker 4: I don't think they have one area where you say, oh,
- 23:28Speaker 4: that's that's you know, that's something we're gonna go after.
- 23:31Speaker 4: You know, could they go after Josh Job and feel
- 23:34Speaker 4: like he's maybe. But the thing about the Niners is
- 23:38Speaker 4: if Ricky Piersoll doesn't play, and he's only a second
- 23:40Speaker 4: year player who's missed a lot of time, but he's
- 23:43Speaker 4: still their best one on one guy because they don't
- 23:46Speaker 4: really have a one on one receiver and without Kiddle,
- 23:49Speaker 4: they certainly don't have that guy.
- 23:51Speaker 2: Greg.
- 23:51Speaker 1: I'm hoping to talk to you next week about an
- 23:53Speaker 1: NFC championship game involving the local team here. All right,
- 23:56Speaker 1: I'm hoping to do that.
- 23:57Speaker 4: And that means you'd have another home game.
- 23:59Speaker 1: We we would love that. We will hope that happens
- 24:01Speaker 1: along the way. Until then, we'll talk to you. We're
- 24:03Speaker 1: crossing our fingers, Jess, we're talking to mister Coselle next
- 24:06Speaker 1: week that you're texting him in Monday and saying we're
- 24:08Speaker 1: back on one more week at least, and away we go.
- 24:10Speaker 4: All right, let's hope, so hope to be back with
- 24:13Speaker 4: you guys.
- 24:14Speaker 1: That's great co sale, the great great co sale. We'll
- 24:16Speaker 1: take a break. Danny O'Neill coming up next.
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- 24:49Speaker 1: Danny O'Neil dang apostrophe, A lot of things to get to.
- 24:52Speaker 1: We're gonna just a fair warning to all of our listeners.
- 24:57Speaker 1: I almost feel like I have to warn them mostly
- 24:59Speaker 1: about me, but no, maybe it's both of us. We're
- 25:01Speaker 1: gonna probably do this over a couple segments today. I
- 25:04Speaker 1: can't just go like six or seven minutes from Danielle today.
- 25:07Speaker 1: Not today, Danny, not today, That's not going to happen today.
- 25:10Speaker 1: We can't go. This is playoff weekend, Danny. This is
- 25:13Speaker 1: the visional playoff round weekend. My friend, how are you?
- 25:17Speaker 5: I am doing very well and fully prepared for what
- 25:20Speaker 5: I will refer to as the double shot. We got
- 25:22Speaker 5: a double shot coming at you.
- 25:24Speaker 1: It's been a while since you've had one of those.
- 25:25Speaker 1: I'll have one later for you and let you know
- 25:27Speaker 1: how it goes.
- 25:27Speaker 5: So I appreciate it. I appreciate it.
- 25:31Speaker 1: No, you know what. I'm here for you, buddy. I
- 25:34Speaker 1: am absolutely flat out here for you. How's your week, man?
- 25:37Speaker 1: You're ready for a little playoff football?
- 25:40Speaker 5: I am. I'm very excited. It has been building over
- 25:43Speaker 5: the course of the week. I was disappointed because Kyle
- 25:47Speaker 5: Brandt of the NFL Network apparently was wandering the streets
- 25:50Speaker 5: of Manhattan with the picture of Mike McDonald's asking people
- 25:54Speaker 5: to identify the Seahawks coach. And if I had known,
- 25:57Speaker 5: I would have buzzed right down there to let him
- 25:59Speaker 5: know there are some people in this city who are
- 26:01Speaker 5: aware of the Seahawks.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Go Chip, what I want to get to some quick
- 26:05Speaker 1: NFL thing before we go back to the Hawks. John
- 26:07Speaker 1: Harbaugh goes to the Giants. What's what's the reaction there?
- 26:10Speaker 1: And I'll preface it by saying, Danny, it is interesting
- 26:14Speaker 1: because this is the great example of one man's trash
- 26:18Speaker 1: is another's treasure, like kick to the curb by his
- 26:20Speaker 1: old team Baltimore, Yeah, you're out. I mean, you've done
- 26:23Speaker 1: nothing really but win here. But we need to make
- 26:25Speaker 1: a change, which we know well because it happened here
- 26:27Speaker 1: in Seattle. And it feels like the Giants they're already
- 26:31Speaker 1: booking their tickets to whoever next to your Super Bowl?
- 26:33Speaker 6: Is?
- 26:34Speaker 1: What's it like there?
- 26:35Speaker 5: Well? People, Giants fans are funny because Giants fans have
- 26:41Speaker 5: sort of delusions of grandeur about where their franchise sits
- 26:45Speaker 5: in the overall pecking order. Where I kind of look
- 26:48Speaker 5: at him and you guys had two wild Card runs
- 26:52Speaker 5: to a super Bowl that Eli Manning pulled out of
- 26:55Speaker 5: his keyster. And that's the only thing that separates you
- 26:59Speaker 5: from the Jets for about thirty years. You guys are
- 27:03Speaker 5: the exact same franchise. Other than that, So this idea
- 27:07Speaker 5: is that, oh, John Harbaugh. I have no idea why
- 27:09Speaker 5: Harbaugh's taking this job. I think that he's in a
- 27:15Speaker 5: position where he doesn't have to worry about I need
- 27:17Speaker 5: to go somewhere with a quarterback. He's got a lot
- 27:21Speaker 5: of equity. There are a lot of franchises that would
- 27:24Speaker 5: trade limitless numbers of assets to have the sort of
- 27:30Speaker 5: disappointments that Harbaugh's had over the last five six years
- 27:33Speaker 5: with Jacksonville. But it is puzzling to me why he's
- 27:38Speaker 5: coming to this team. And maybe it's because he gets
- 27:41Speaker 5: more of a Satan personality. Hasn't necessarily had that in Baltimore.
- 27:46Speaker 5: But yeah, Giants fan seems to think that we're back,
- 27:49Speaker 5: and I'm like, I'm not sure when the last time
- 27:51Speaker 5: you were actually there.
- 27:53Speaker 1: Was Danny O'Neill with me. I'm going to get to
- 27:57Speaker 1: in a second segment, we'll kind of talk about the
- 27:59Speaker 1: game's elf coming up tomorrow and why you wrote about
- 28:02Speaker 1: why home field advantage is important. But I want to
- 28:05Speaker 1: go back a little bit. You I don't you, I
- 28:07Speaker 1: don't even know if you know off the top of
- 28:08Speaker 1: your head, but you covered a lot of Seahawk playoff
- 28:11Speaker 1: games during your ten year both at the Seattle Times
- 28:14Speaker 1: as their beat writer and also working at a certain
- 28:17Speaker 1: radio station that will go on named I ran into
- 28:20Speaker 1: a guy here a minute ago. Actually, there's a bunch
- 28:22Speaker 1: of Seahawk fans over at the Still calum Me Casino today,
- 28:25Speaker 1: a bunch of Seahawk fans and there are some that
- 28:27Speaker 1: still which is a little bit concerning because it means
- 28:30Speaker 1: you're not watching Aaron and the folks of Fox their
- 28:32Speaker 1: team that still think I'm doing Fox their team stuff.
- 28:34Speaker 1: But nevertheless, it's a compliment.
- 28:38Speaker 5: It's complic you look large in their minds.
- 28:40Speaker 1: Apparently. Nevertheless, you know, as I go back, I mean,
- 28:44Speaker 1: I know I was lucky. I saw some incredible playoff
- 28:48Speaker 1: games home and away with this football team over the
- 28:51Speaker 1: course of seventeen or so years that I was doing it.
- 28:54Speaker 1: You also did as well. What are the games that
- 28:56Speaker 1: jump out at you? And why? Because I'll say that
- 28:59Speaker 1: I ask you for this reason not just what you
- 29:01Speaker 1: share memories because I bring that up because every playoff
- 29:04Speaker 1: game that I can remember seems to I can probably
- 29:07Speaker 1: point to something that happened in the game and say, man,
- 29:10Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming, and that's why the game
- 29:12Speaker 1: was decided. If that If that makes.
- 29:13Speaker 5: Sense for sure. The one that probably jumps out most
- 29:18Speaker 5: to me that the playoff game that I remember most
- 29:22Speaker 5: clearly is the tip because of the anxiety that was
- 29:27Speaker 5: building on that drive and they were Seattle was digging
- 29:32Speaker 5: out of a hole that entire game. There was an
- 29:34Speaker 5: early fumble by Russell Wilson, and just the feeling of
- 29:40Speaker 5: not just relief but exultation when Sherman tipped that pass.
- 29:46Speaker 5: It was it was fantastic. But there are other ones
- 29:48Speaker 5: that stick out as well. I remember two thousand and
- 29:52Speaker 5: the two thousand and seventh season, sitting up in the
- 29:55Speaker 5: press box in green Bay and Seattle's up fourteen to zero,
- 29:59Speaker 5: and it I feel like, oh my gosh, they are
- 30:03Speaker 5: on their way and green Bay reels off forty two
- 30:06Speaker 5: consecutive points as it starts snowing. The game in Minnesota
- 30:12Speaker 5: that was so painfully cold, unbelievable, and just playing outdoors
- 30:19Speaker 5: in Minnesota in January that game. But you're right that
- 30:23Speaker 5: each game will have these little moments that will be
- 30:26Speaker 5: forever etched. And sometimes they make a ton of sense
- 30:30Speaker 5: because you can't get over them, and other times it's weird.
- 30:33Speaker 5: Like I will always remember in twenty twelve, Richard Sherman
- 30:37Speaker 5: giving Rodney White a golf class after like making a
- 30:41Speaker 5: reception down. It was just this little, very polite like acknowledgement, like, Okay,
- 30:45Speaker 5: you got one, buddy, good for you.
- 30:47Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, well, so why do you bring up
- 30:50Speaker 1: twenty twelve because both those games that year when the
- 30:55Speaker 1: run really kind of started, and I would almost say
- 30:57Speaker 1: that the franchise was re energy. I all due respect
- 31:01Speaker 1: to the beast Quake run in twenty ten and everything else,
- 31:03Speaker 1: that's when things kind of started to turn back to
- 31:05Speaker 1: where they were, you know, when Holmegrin took him to
- 31:07Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and things like that, and then the
- 31:09Speaker 1: little dysfunction they had for a while. But I I remember,
- 31:12Speaker 1: you know, being in the nation's capital and you know,
- 31:14Speaker 1: we were doing stuff on the field for the TV
- 31:17Speaker 1: before the game, a pregame show, and remember like thinking,
- 31:19Speaker 1: this field's messed up, Like there's something wrong with this field.
- 31:22Speaker 1: Like from above in the press box, it looks really nice,
- 31:25Speaker 1: looks green. And then Max Hunger says, this is the
- 31:27Speaker 1: worst thing I've ever been on in my life. And
- 31:29Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean? And he's like, he's
- 31:30Speaker 1: walking off after like the early warm ups. I said,
- 31:32Speaker 1: what do you mean? He goes walk out. He actually
- 31:34Speaker 1: kind of grabbed me, walk out here, walk out here,
- 31:35Speaker 1: and I'm like, start walking out in the field, which
- 31:37Speaker 1: you know usually they go nuts, but you're the player.
- 31:38Speaker 1: He's like field and it was like sand. It was
- 31:41Speaker 1: like it was painted sand. And I thought, that's weird.
- 31:43Speaker 1: And then well and behold RG three blows his knee.
- 31:46Speaker 1: Chris Clemens blows his knee. Remember Stephen hous Goet broke
- 31:48Speaker 1: his ankle in that game. Like, I mean, all these
- 31:51Speaker 1: things happened and it was just wild. But I also
- 31:54Speaker 1: remember thinking, as a beat as tar at times off
- 31:57Speaker 1: of Washington, a really good team that day, though this
- 32:00Speaker 1: might be the start of something good, Like this might
- 32:02Speaker 1: be the start of something really really kind of special,
- 32:04Speaker 1: because what you just said. The next week, Richard Sherman
- 32:07Speaker 1: was Richard Sherman like as cocky as can be, pointing
- 32:10Speaker 1: a finger waggon his finger like here we go. I
- 32:13Speaker 1: remember that. I mean, the cold game in Minnesota was
- 32:16Speaker 1: special for other reasons. But I think about that game, Danny,
- 32:19Speaker 1: and this is why I bring it up for tomorrow.
- 32:21Speaker 1: Blair Walschmiths is a gimme field goal to win the game.
- 32:24Speaker 1: Like stuff happens in the playoffs, the pressure is different,
- 32:27Speaker 1: isn't it. Like you, we see things that happen that
- 32:29Speaker 1: normally wouldn't happen in the regular season.
- 32:33Speaker 5: Because everything is magnified and the desperation that teams feel
- 32:38Speaker 5: is real, and that that one and one and done
- 32:43Speaker 5: no margin for error. It changes things and it makes
- 32:47Speaker 5: everyone scrutinize the results. Everyone will remember the decisive moments
- 32:53Speaker 5: that we sort to get.
- 32:55Speaker 1: Do you think there's anything to coaching experience. I bring
- 32:59Speaker 1: that up up because when Pete got there in twenty twelve,
- 33:03Speaker 1: and even again twenty ten, but really the twenty twelve
- 33:05Speaker 1: when that started, Pete had coached in so many big
- 33:07Speaker 1: games at USC national championship games, like he had been
- 33:11Speaker 1: you know, at Notre Dame wherever it would have been,
- 33:13Speaker 1: but he had coached as a head coach, not as
- 33:15Speaker 1: a coordinator, as a head coach, and you know, he
- 33:17Speaker 1: had been there that this is the first go round
- 33:20Speaker 1: for Mike McDonald. Kyle Shanahan has been here many times before.
- 33:25Speaker 1: Now probably different because they're not favored, But Kyle Shannon
- 33:28Speaker 1: also has fallen short both as a coordinator. We all
- 33:31Speaker 1: know what happened to Super Bowl and also of course
- 33:34Speaker 1: you know with the forty nine ers as well. So
- 33:37Speaker 1: do you think there's anything to the coaches having that experience.
- 33:41Speaker 5: I definitely think that having managed a game in those
- 33:47Speaker 5: sort of circumstances where things are magnified and how you
- 33:50Speaker 5: make decisions, I do think that that helps. I wonder
- 33:54Speaker 5: with Kyle and having read there was a book that
- 33:58Speaker 5: was written about kind of him and his assistant coaches
- 34:01Speaker 5: to why is Everything? He's kind of got a little
- 34:04Speaker 5: bit of hang up where he feels that there is
- 34:08Speaker 5: an onus on him when it comes to winning the
- 34:10Speaker 5: Super Bowl. That just ridiculous. Things have happened that have
- 34:13Speaker 5: prevented that from occurring, going back to the Atlanta when
- 34:17Speaker 5: he was the offensive coordinator. So I do wonder with
- 34:20Speaker 5: Kyle Wall He's got a lot of experience that he also,
- 34:24Speaker 5: I think, can have a feeling of having a little
- 34:27Speaker 5: bit of a monkey on his back. The thing that
- 34:29Speaker 5: I'm so impressed with with Mike McDonald is how sort
- 34:33Speaker 5: of understated yet energetic he remains. He is someone who
- 34:39Speaker 5: does and seems to be very plugged into the emotions
- 34:42Speaker 5: of what are happening in the game, running down the
- 34:45Speaker 5: field after an interception, the celebrations he's got. He does
- 34:49Speaker 5: it in his own slightly dorky way, but he's very engaged,
- 34:53Speaker 5: emotional with the game. But you don't see him get frustrated,
- 34:56Speaker 5: and I think that that is It's not that getting
- 35:00Speaker 5: frustrated is bad, but I think he's got a style
- 35:03Speaker 5: and an approach and I haven't seen it wayver much,
- 35:06Speaker 5: so I'm I'm inclined to think that, yeah, this will
- 35:09Speaker 5: be different, it will be magnified. We'll see if it
- 35:11Speaker 5: affects him, but it sure seems like he's someone who's
- 35:15Speaker 5: pretty composed and has has a very firm established procedure
- 35:20Speaker 5: for the way he does.
- 35:21Speaker 1: Think Danny O'Neil, he's going to join us one more
- 35:24Speaker 1: segment stick around, we'll talk about the game itself tomorrow,
- 35:27Speaker 1: and Danny wrote about it. Why is home field advantage
- 35:29Speaker 1: so important? That's next niney three point three KJFM.
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- 35:53Speaker 1: forty percent alcohol by volume. Saver Responsibly, Danie O'Neil back
- 35:57Speaker 1: with us for one more segment. Big thanks in your
- 36:00Speaker 1: plus handling systems. Danny, you wrote about it, why and
- 36:03Speaker 1: what are the examples of why home field advantage is
- 36:05Speaker 1: so damn important for the Seahawks or anybody in the
- 36:07Speaker 1: NFL playoffs.
- 36:09Speaker 5: Well, you get to this stage and part of it
- 36:12Speaker 5: is that home field advantage it definitely used to and
- 36:16Speaker 5: still does largely correlate with five. If you have home
- 36:19Speaker 5: field advantage in the divisional round of the playoffs, it
- 36:22Speaker 5: used to be the top two teams that got that advised.
- 36:25Speaker 5: Now it's just the top team. But Seattle has had
- 36:28Speaker 5: home field advantage in the divisional round four times, they're
- 36:31Speaker 5: three and one, and in the nine times where they've
- 36:35Speaker 5: been on the road in this round, they're one and eight.
- 36:38Speaker 5: So it certainly isn't just that home field makes all
- 36:43Speaker 5: the difference. Home field is a signifier that you're a
- 36:46Speaker 5: better team. But I could remember we were talking about
- 36:50Speaker 5: all of the different playoff runs. There was a pattern
- 36:54Speaker 5: for in the years where they lost in the divisional
- 36:56Speaker 5: round of the playoffs on the road, which was two
- 36:59Speaker 5: thousand and six, two thousand and seven, twenty ten, twenty twelve,
- 37:03Speaker 5: two thousand and fifteen, two thousand and sixteen, two thy nineteen.
- 37:08Speaker 5: Every time they come back and say, we needed to
- 37:10Speaker 5: win more games in the regular season so we can
- 37:12Speaker 5: have home field in the divisional round. It's got it.
- 37:15Speaker 5: Now they are set up. It doesn't guarantee anything, but
- 37:18Speaker 5: mayn they are set up for a run to the
- 37:21Speaker 5: super Bowl.
- 37:22Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned twenty nineteen was the last time they
- 37:24Speaker 1: won a playoff game. That would have been the wildcard
- 37:26Speaker 1: weekend in Philadelphia against a forty three year old backup quarterback.
- 37:30Speaker 1: Because that's the last playoff game they won that We
- 37:32Speaker 1: go to Green Bay the next week and it was
- 37:34Speaker 1: a blizzard. It was fun, really fun. Not really, it
- 37:38Speaker 1: was fun actually in retrospect because two weeks later, a
- 37:40Speaker 1: month later, the world shutdown, So that was like but
- 37:42Speaker 1: that was their last playoff win was a wildcard win,
- 37:45Speaker 1: and their last two playoff wins I believe have been
- 37:48Speaker 1: wildcard wins, right, So you know this is a they
- 37:52Speaker 1: need to They need to find a way this weekend
- 37:54Speaker 1: to get it done. I think to Danny, the home
- 37:57Speaker 1: field advantage also gives you expectations that you wouldn't have,
- 38:00Speaker 1: and it makes an easier path. We believe Sam Donald
- 38:04Speaker 1: is gonna play. Is there any part of you that's
- 38:05Speaker 1: nervous about that?
- 38:08Speaker 5: Sure, a little. You don't come out of a practice
- 38:12Speaker 5: because everything's going great like that. It's certainly something happened,
- 38:17Speaker 5: And I'm generally of the belief that injuries are always
- 38:21Speaker 5: more serious than that anyone will let on. It's certainly
- 38:25Speaker 5: there's no doubt that he's going to play, and I
- 38:29Speaker 5: don't see Sam Donald's health making the biggest difference. If
- 38:34Speaker 5: it comes down to a situation where they need to
- 38:36Speaker 5: score forty points to and and Sam has to pick
- 38:40Speaker 5: put them on the back, things will have gone dramatically wrong.
- 38:43Speaker 5: And I think if you look at the last two
- 38:45Speaker 5: months of the season, Seattle has changed. The offense is
- 38:49Speaker 5: fundamentally different, and some of that's due to an improved
- 38:53Speaker 5: run game, and some of that's because they wanted to
- 38:56Speaker 5: dial back the amount of chances that Sam was taking.
- 38:58Speaker 5: That they are they know their defense and they're gonna
- 39:02Speaker 5: play to the strength of that, and they are perfectly
- 39:04Speaker 5: comfortable winning thirteen to three like they did in Week
- 39:07Speaker 5: eighteen against against the Niners.
- 39:10Speaker 1: Danny, you know, in our business, there's nothing original, ever,
- 39:14Speaker 1: so I'm sure that he also stole this from somebody else,
- 39:16Speaker 1: but I'm gonna steal it from him. You're familiar with
- 39:19Speaker 1: David Maler SOFTI, we call him, you know, you know,
- 39:21Speaker 1: I am I Am. One of my favorite segments back
- 39:24Speaker 1: in the day is when Sark after Dark was coaching
- 39:27Speaker 1: at you Dub and Softie would have him on every Friday,
- 39:30Speaker 1: and it was a question that was both entertaining for
- 39:34Speaker 1: me as a Cougar fan, mostly because it was annoying
- 39:37Speaker 1: to Sark as a Husky coach. So really it was
- 39:39Speaker 1: a perfect combination. But I honestly, it's a great question.
- 39:42Speaker 1: It's an awesome question, So I'm gonna ask you the
- 39:44Speaker 1: same thing. Thanks Softy for let me steal this. Danie O'Neill,
- 39:47Speaker 1: what makes you nervous about tomorrow? If you're a Seahawk fan.
- 39:52Speaker 5: That games never go the way you think they're gonna
- 39:54Speaker 5: go when you and that's especially true when you played
- 39:58Speaker 5: a team two weeks before. They never go the same way.
- 40:02Speaker 5: And as dominant as Seattle's defense was, and it was dominant,
- 40:08Speaker 5: you certainly have the feeling that San Francisco is going
- 40:11Speaker 5: to have something else or something more, whether it's Trent
- 40:15Speaker 5: Williams being back or Ricky Pearsall. I don't see this
- 40:19Speaker 5: being a carbon copy of that game. And that's what
- 40:23Speaker 5: makes me nervous because the team that changes in some
- 40:26Speaker 5: respects gets the advantage. Because Seattle comes into this game thinking, well,
- 40:31Speaker 5: we're not going to change what we did from last time,
- 40:33Speaker 5: and San Francisco looks at it like we absolutely going
- 40:37Speaker 5: to change everything from what we did last five. That's
- 40:40Speaker 5: what makes me nervous. Kyle Shanahan is one of the
- 40:43Speaker 5: very best coaches in the league, and I believe that
- 40:46Speaker 5: Seattle has a better chance against his offense, not just
- 40:50Speaker 5: in this game but in general with Mike McDonald's as
- 40:54Speaker 5: the defensive coordinator. But I certainly believe that we're going
- 40:58Speaker 5: to see some things in this game that they did
- 41:00Speaker 5: not show. They are not going to be as ineffective
- 41:04Speaker 5: as they were on offense in Week eight.
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- 41:22Speaker 1: Danny I Well said in notes, I have for our
- 41:25Speaker 1: big roundtable we're doing later on tonight the same thing
- 41:29Speaker 1: like you can't. And that's why I asked you the
- 41:31Speaker 1: start of the game. Like the things that jump out
- 41:32Speaker 1: of you over the years, there's always something that happens.
- 41:35Speaker 1: There's always something that takes place that no one talked
- 41:38Speaker 1: about beforehand in a playoff game that ends up being
- 41:41Speaker 1: a key and what will that be tomorrow? Hopefully goes
- 41:42Speaker 1: seattles Way tell people about the dang Apostrophe, sir.
- 41:46Speaker 5: It is a newsletter that originates in New York. Occasionally
- 41:49Speaker 5: you'll find pictures of Christmas trees which are still proliferating
- 41:52Speaker 5: on the streets of New York.
- 41:54Speaker 1: Maybe they're growing there, Danny, have you seen are they
- 41:56Speaker 1: taking up roots or anything?
- 41:58Speaker 5: There was a win today come up off the Hudson
- 42:00Speaker 5: River and a Christmas tree. It wasn't a big Christmas tree,
- 42:04Speaker 5: but it was at least four feet tall that was
- 42:06Speaker 5: blowing down the street like a tumbleweed. Was freaking ridiculous.
- 42:12Speaker 5: The dang Apostrophy is a newsletter that originates to this
- 42:15Speaker 5: God's forsaken apocalypse. You go to Dannie O'Neil dot com.
- 42:19Speaker 5: You put in your email address and I'll send you
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- 42:26Speaker 1: He will make you out if you don't have to promise,
- 42:28Speaker 1: it's a guarantee. Great stuff, buddy, I'll talk to you
- 42:30Speaker 1: next Friday.
- 42:31Speaker 5: Sounds great.
- 42:32Speaker 1: Gohawks there you go, Danie O'Neil joining us, Rob Rang.
- 42:36Speaker 1: We'll talk Seahawks and National Championship game coming up next.
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- 44:35Speaker 1: All right, here he is Rob Rang, brought to you
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- 44:41Speaker 1: he is ready to go, and we are ready for
- 44:43Speaker 1: a boy. A big weekend of football starting tomorrow. We've got,
- 44:46Speaker 1: of course, the Divisional round of the playoffs Seahawks at five,
- 44:49Speaker 1: and then Monday we get the National Championship Game. I
- 44:51Speaker 1: don't want that to go away. Five o'clock Indiana, Figus
- 44:55Speaker 1: four thirty ish, Indiana taking on the U Miami University,
- 45:00Speaker 1: University of Miami whatever they're called these days, the Hurricanes.
- 45:02Speaker 1: Here we go. Rob rang with us talking all things
- 45:04Speaker 1: NFL Draft, boys, stuff to get to with draft, Dante
- 45:07Speaker 1: Moore and so much more. Hello, Rob, how are you?
- 45:10Speaker 5: I'm doing very well, buddy, how are you?
- 45:12Speaker 1: I'm good? I should also point out, you know, Rob
- 45:14Speaker 1: does a podcast with our friend Corbyn Smith and Andrews.
- 45:18Speaker 1: Who's the other guy in that podcast?
- 45:19Speaker 7: Sometimes his name's Anderson Hurst. I don't know if anyone's
- 45:22Speaker 7: ever heard of him.
- 45:23Speaker 1: Yeah, nope, never heard him. I never heard him. I
- 45:25Speaker 1: think you guys, do you have one up there right
- 45:27Speaker 1: now that we can listen to it?
- 45:28Speaker 8: Absolutely.
- 45:28Speaker 7: We had a little preview talk San Darnold injury yesterday
- 45:31Speaker 7: on the Seahawks Squad Show, So check it out.
- 45:33Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's get to it, Rob. Let's talk
- 45:35Speaker 1: about Seahawks and forty nine ers real quick and what
- 45:39Speaker 1: that means. And we'll get to the NFL or the
- 45:41Speaker 1: draft and the championship game in a second, but let
- 45:44Speaker 1: me start there. I saw a thing this week Jeffrey Simmons,
- 45:48Speaker 1: one of the best defensive tackles in the National Football League,
- 45:52Speaker 1: throwing a lot of praise Gray Zabel's away. Of course
- 45:55Speaker 1: they met this year on the field. I'm gonna start
- 45:58Speaker 1: with Gray Zabel and maybe and Nicki min Worri and
- 46:01Speaker 1: just this draft class that Seattle put together. John Schneider,
- 46:04Speaker 1: what a terrific job this year, really the last three
- 46:07Speaker 1: years he's done. And is it safe to say Rob
- 46:09Speaker 1: Seattle is where it is right now because of the
- 46:11Speaker 1: work Schneider and his scouting staff have.
- 46:13Speaker 6: Done, No question about it. I mean, it's why that
- 46:17Speaker 6: Josh Shatters here was the executive of the Year in
- 46:19Speaker 6: the NFL.
- 46:21Speaker 1: You know.
- 46:21Speaker 6: It's it's funny because my editors at Fox sports dot
- 46:25Speaker 6: Com basically teased me in the hours after the twenty
- 46:30Speaker 6: twenty five NFL Draft where I proclaim that the Seahawks
- 46:33Speaker 6: had the best draft of any NFL team, and they're like,
- 46:36Speaker 6: you're such a homer. You know what, all this kind
- 46:38Speaker 6: of talking, it's like, well, you can see they really
- 46:41Speaker 6: did a fantastic job of acquiring talent. The fact that
- 46:44Speaker 6: Gray's Abel and Nick emn Worry as rookies received all
- 46:48Speaker 6: pro votes, you know, I think it is, you know,
- 46:52Speaker 6: a demonstration of that fact. And then of course, if
- 46:55Speaker 6: Tory Horton had been able to remain healthy all year long,
- 46:58Speaker 6: then he may have been getting maybe some offensive Rookie
- 47:01Speaker 6: of the Year of himself. So again, I just think
- 47:05Speaker 6: of this as a phenomenal draft class for the Seahawks
- 47:07Speaker 6: and one that look, the veterans of course carry this
- 47:11Speaker 6: franchise this year, but at the same time, I don't
- 47:14Speaker 6: think that Seattle would have the number one seed in
- 47:16Speaker 6: the NFC without this year's rookie class.
- 47:19Speaker 1: We talked to Great Cosell in the last hour of
- 47:21Speaker 1: the show and he brought up a name that we
- 47:25Speaker 1: haven't talked about a lot, and it was a Day
- 47:27Speaker 1: three pick, fifth round at a Notre Dame injured defensive tackle,
- 47:32Speaker 1: Riley Mills. And he really likes Riley Mills and thinks
- 47:36Speaker 1: maybe kind of a little bit of an X factor.
- 47:38Speaker 1: What was it about Riley Mills that you particularly liked
- 47:40Speaker 1: maybe coming out of the draft, the size.
- 47:44Speaker 6: He's six plit five, he toured ninety or tour in
- 47:47Speaker 6: eighty five pounds, his ability to play up and down
- 47:50Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage. Of course, if he had not
- 47:52Speaker 6: suffered the injury in Notre Dame's postseason run a year ago,
- 47:57Speaker 6: that he probably would have wound up being a second
- 48:00Speaker 6: worst a third round selection. And so it was just
- 48:03Speaker 6: basically getting in the bargain basement. And to me, again,
- 48:07Speaker 6: it was kind of like the cherry on top of
- 48:09Speaker 6: a terrific draft class. We talked a little bit about,
- 48:13Speaker 6: of course, the Alabama quarterback jentlem Monroe as being kind
- 48:15Speaker 6: of the wild card. To me, Robby Mills was kind
- 48:18Speaker 6: of the underrated wild card aspect of it, just because
- 48:21Speaker 6: this was already a good defensive line for the Seahawks,
- 48:25Speaker 6: but also one that very much has some aging players
- 48:28Speaker 6: on it, and Robby Mills the future is so bright
- 48:31Speaker 6: with him, and again, the versatility, I think it's something
- 48:34Speaker 6: that Mike McDonald and Adam Burde very much appreciated as well.
- 48:38Speaker 1: Jalen Sidel wasn't drafted, but he solidified himself as the
- 48:42Speaker 1: team center. Zabel at that left guard Cross has been
- 48:47Speaker 1: banged up, so these numbers don't mean as much with him,
- 48:49Speaker 1: but certainly Lucas and if we want to throw Bradford
- 48:52Speaker 1: in there, I think he's still a little a weak link,
- 48:53Speaker 1: but we can do that as well. Rob The Seahawks
- 48:56Speaker 1: in the last three weeks of the regular season ran
- 48:59Speaker 1: for one, one sixty three and one eighty Those are
- 49:04Speaker 1: the last three weeks of their running game. What they
- 49:06Speaker 1: did on the ground, where what do you attribute that to?
- 49:11Speaker 6: I think that one of the factors is just how
- 49:14Speaker 6: darn athletic that Seattle's offensive line is. And you mentioned
- 49:18Speaker 6: them all there by name, so I won't do the
- 49:20Speaker 6: same thing here. But you know, with the except for
- 49:23Speaker 6: Anthony Bradford, who I would argue is the most powerful
- 49:26Speaker 6: of the five, the other four are as athletic as
- 49:31Speaker 6: anybody else at their respective positions in all of the NFL.
- 49:35Speaker 6: And I think if they are just such an excellent
- 49:37Speaker 6: schematic fit with what uh you know, John Benton and
- 49:41Speaker 6: Kut Kubiak had been looking to bring. It's something that
- 49:44Speaker 6: they did previously at the New Orleans Saints, where they
- 49:47Speaker 6: invested highly in offensive lineman and it just has worked
- 49:52Speaker 6: out that much better here in Seattle, and you know,
- 49:55Speaker 6: obviously a lot of the credit should.
- 49:57Speaker 5: Go to Seattle defense.
- 49:59Speaker 6: But I I also think that the numbers that you
- 50:02Speaker 6: just mentioned as far as how productive they were running
- 50:05Speaker 6: the football, especially in these last three weeks. Is the
- 50:08Speaker 6: weather starts to turn, I think the running game is
- 50:11Speaker 6: just that much more important. And Seatle's offensive line has
- 50:15Speaker 6: been a huge factor in that. The running backs certainly
- 50:18Speaker 6: are talented, but the offensive line is allowing them to
- 50:21Speaker 6: look perhaps even better than they would in different systems.
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- 51:04Speaker 1: We'll transition a little bit to college because we're not
- 51:06Speaker 1: going to be on the air Monday, we get cracking hockey.
- 51:08Speaker 1: But I do want to touch on a little bit
- 51:09Speaker 1: on the Miami Indiana game in a second before I
- 51:13Speaker 1: get to that big news this week, Dante Moore decides
- 51:16Speaker 1: he's coming back to the University of Oregon, and we'll
- 51:19Speaker 1: get into it as we get close to the draft
- 51:21Speaker 1: and deadlines and all that, and depending on what goes
- 51:24Speaker 1: on next week, maybe kind of put a little bit
- 51:26Speaker 1: more of a spin on who's in, who's out, who's
- 51:28Speaker 1: coming back, all those fun things. But Rob, what does
- 51:31Speaker 1: the Dante Moore decision mean for the draft as far
- 51:35Speaker 1: as quarterbacks concerned? And maybe even start with do you
- 51:39Speaker 1: think it was the right choice for Dante Moore?
- 51:41Speaker 6: I do think it was the right choice for his
- 51:43Speaker 6: long term development as an NFL quarterback, because we saw
- 51:48Speaker 6: in Oregon's you know, humbling loss to Indiana that this
- 51:52Speaker 6: is the quarterback that had a talent. But he is
- 51:54Speaker 6: still just sorry for the pun here, a little bit green,
- 51:58Speaker 6: you know. I mean, this is a quarterback who know
- 52:00Speaker 6: only has roughly I believe it's sixteen college starts under
- 52:05Speaker 6: his resume, and that is just, you know, hugely concerning that.
- 52:09Speaker 6: The number of quarterbacks that have gone into the NFL
- 52:12Speaker 6: with under twenty career starts to college level and then
- 52:16Speaker 6: had success in the NFL is very, very small, and
- 52:21Speaker 6: so I think that it is a good decision for
- 52:23Speaker 6: Dante Moore. Obviously, it's going to make Conducks fans out
- 52:26Speaker 6: there feel very good about their national championship possibilities.
- 52:31Speaker 5: I think it's one of the very few.
- 52:33Speaker 6: Positives of all of the NIL and transfer policy and
- 52:37Speaker 6: all that kind of stuff. To me, there's a lot
- 52:39Speaker 6: of negatives here, but it is allowing quarterbacks and other
- 52:43Speaker 6: positions as well, but especially quarterbacks, to just truly assess
- 52:47Speaker 6: where they are. He would have been a top five selection.
- 52:50Speaker 6: There's just too much need in the NFL for quarterbacks now.
- 52:55Speaker 6: I think that easily Fernando Mendoz is going to be
- 52:58Speaker 6: the number one overall selection. I think there's a possibility
- 53:00Speaker 6: that Alabama quarterback Ty Simpson is also going to be
- 53:04Speaker 6: a top fifteen selection. He should not be, but he
- 53:08Speaker 6: might wind up going that early. Just again because of
- 53:10Speaker 6: the desperation Dante Moore would have been between the two
- 53:14Speaker 6: of them. In terms of Fernando Mendezo again would have
- 53:17Speaker 6: got number one, and then I think there's a good
- 53:19Speaker 6: chance that Dante Moore would have gone number two overall
- 53:22Speaker 6: to the New York Jets. I applaud the young man's
- 53:24Speaker 6: decision here. To me, it shows a great deal of
- 53:26Speaker 6: maturity and also shows of course the deep pockets of
- 53:29Speaker 6: the boosters at the University of Oregon. Of course, but
- 53:32Speaker 6: again I think that it is the best in the
- 53:34Speaker 6: long run for Dante More.
- 53:38Speaker 1: He's a little different in terms of, you know, the
- 53:42Speaker 1: number of starts, because the player I'm gonna mention had
- 53:44Speaker 1: a bunch at the FCS level and then two years
- 53:46Speaker 1: at Wazoo. But I kind of liken it a little
- 53:49Speaker 1: bit to the cam Ward decision, you know. I mean
- 53:51Speaker 1: cam Ward after his second year in Pullman was was
- 53:54Speaker 1: going you know, there's talk about him going out. He
- 53:56Speaker 1: actually I think I think he did the test, He
- 53:58Speaker 1: did the evaluation right where you see where you might
- 54:01Speaker 1: be drafted, and he wasn't going to be a first rounder,
- 54:03Speaker 1: and he made the decision to go transfer to Miami
- 54:06Speaker 1: and lo and behold, he ends up being the number
- 54:08Speaker 1: one guy overall and as year went on. I think
- 54:09Speaker 1: we started to see the talent, right Like, I think
- 54:12Speaker 1: cam kind of was a test case. And I don't
- 54:15Speaker 1: know if Dante Moore looked at that or not, but
- 54:17Speaker 1: I don't think cam Ward would have been the same
- 54:19Speaker 1: player coming out if he hadn't play that year at
- 54:21Speaker 1: the University of Miami.
- 54:23Speaker 6: No question about it. Having conversations, including with scouts the
- 54:27Speaker 6: Tennessee Titans, the belief was that that cam Ward was
- 54:33Speaker 6: a second to third round pick at best prior to
- 54:37Speaker 6: that final season University of Miami where everything just kind
- 54:40Speaker 6: of came together in his natural talent really rose to
- 54:43Speaker 6: the forefront. I just think that when Dantey Moore like
- 54:47Speaker 6: cam Ward, you can see the talent, but at the
- 54:50Speaker 6: same time, it really you need to have the maturity
- 54:54Speaker 6: to be able to, you know, to look these men
- 54:57Speaker 6: in the eye and NFL huddle and when are you know,
- 55:01Speaker 6: barely shaving. It's a lot more difficult to be able
- 55:05Speaker 6: to do so. And I just think that the experience
- 55:09Speaker 6: you know that he is going to get at Oregon
- 55:12Speaker 6: and all these high profile games just going to make
- 55:14Speaker 6: him that much better suited to have success. And on
- 55:18Speaker 6: the cam Wood note, I mean, we saw that Ward
- 55:21Speaker 6: had some flashes here as a rookie with Tennessee, but
- 55:24Speaker 6: also the Titans did not have that much success. I mean,
- 55:26Speaker 6: they're gonna be selecting the top five overall themselves. That's
- 55:30Speaker 6: what I anticipated that or that's why I believe that
- 55:33Speaker 6: Dante Moore would have experienced had he gone, say to
- 55:36Speaker 6: the New York Jets or one of those other quarterback
- 55:38Speaker 6: needy things early in the first round, is that he
- 55:41Speaker 6: would have wound up struggling because he is not yet
- 55:44Speaker 6: equipped to be the savior that franchises are hoping for
- 55:48Speaker 6: at the quarterback position if they're going to be investing
- 55:50Speaker 6: in a top five pick.
- 55:51Speaker 1: Rob ring Bridge by fairly speech of Fairlyespeza dot Com.
- 55:53Speaker 1: All right, real fast before we get some Indiana and
- 55:57Speaker 1: Miami on Monday, Oregon also got their top defensive lineman back.
- 56:00Speaker 1: Is that right? Is that right?
- 56:02Speaker 6: That is true?
- 56:03Speaker 5: Uh?
- 56:03Speaker 6: Yeah, they got a couple. We talked a lot about
- 56:05Speaker 6: Matteo Hui a Gialle, the edge rusher for Oregon. Tayum
- 56:10Speaker 6: Tuilo I also returned Amori Washington. They got three defensive
- 56:16Speaker 6: linemen in that are returning for their senior seasons at Oregon.
- 56:20Speaker 6: So look, obviously all the focus is going to be
- 56:23Speaker 6: on the quarterback for you know, for good reason. But
- 56:26Speaker 6: at the same time, Oregon is returning most of their
- 56:29Speaker 6: best players from this past year, so I expect another
- 56:33Speaker 6: return to the playoffs for the University of Oregon next year.
- 56:36Speaker 1: Rob Eran joining us. All right, let's get to the
- 56:37Speaker 1: championship game. You got an article the start out today,
- 56:40Speaker 1: it'll be out soon. Fox sports dot com top ten
- 56:42Speaker 1: prospects playing in the championship Game on Monday with Miami
- 56:45Speaker 1: and the University of Indiana. So let's go through this.
- 56:49Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of go in the middle. First, You've
- 56:51Speaker 1: got Carson Beck is number six. We just talked about
- 56:54Speaker 1: Dante Moore. Where will Carson Beck go? And we're just
- 56:58Speaker 1: a two part of Rob, will Carson Beck go? Where
- 57:01Speaker 1: should he go?
- 57:04Speaker 6: I think the Carson Beck is going to go about
- 57:06Speaker 6: where he should go, and that's going to be on
- 57:08Speaker 6: day two. Now that Carson Beck is a quarterback that
- 57:12Speaker 6: is a maddeningly inconsistent It's just about any quarterback I've
- 57:16Speaker 6: ever seen. But at the same time, when you have
- 57:19Speaker 6: the number of starts that he has and Monday night
- 57:22Speaker 6: will be his fifty fifth start at the college level.
- 57:26Speaker 6: Of course, they all came either at Miami this year
- 57:29Speaker 6: or previously at the University of Georgia, So you're talking
- 57:32Speaker 6: about elite competition. He has the physical traits that you're
- 57:35Speaker 6: looking for. He's got a career three to one touchdown
- 57:39Speaker 6: to interception ratio. I mean, this is a talented quarterback.
- 57:43Speaker 6: Now again, he is maddeningly inconsistent. Anybody who watched him,
- 57:48Speaker 6: you know, throw four interceptions in an ugly loss to Louisville.
- 57:52Speaker 6: You know, we would say this guy doesn't deserve to
- 57:54Speaker 6: be drafted. But at the same time, one of the
- 57:57Speaker 6: things I've learned over the years and having converseations and
- 58:00Speaker 6: NFL scouts and NFL decision makers is that it's not
- 58:04Speaker 6: so much about you know, talking about a player at
- 58:06Speaker 6: his lowest point, talked about his highest point. What NFL
- 58:10Speaker 6: teams believe that they can kind of coax and coach
- 58:14Speaker 6: the talent out of these players at his best, Carson
- 58:18Speaker 6: Beck is one of the most accurate quarterbacks in this
- 58:21Speaker 6: draft class.
- 58:21Speaker 5: And again after.
- 58:22Speaker 6: Fernando Mendoza, it's basically just kind of picked your poisons
- 58:26Speaker 6: at that quarterback spot because I don't see any sure things.
- 58:30Speaker 6: I think a player with his physical traits, his experience,
- 58:34Speaker 6: he's going to find up being selected somewhere on Day
- 58:36Speaker 6: two and perhaps be a possible starter early in his
- 58:41Speaker 6: NFL career.
- 58:42Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about the edge rushers from Miami
- 58:45Speaker 1: this season. On Monday, that'll be one of the storylines,
- 58:48Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Let's talk about a guy
- 58:51Speaker 1: that's going to see those dudes, Carter Smith, offensive tackle
- 58:53Speaker 1: for Indiana. What kind of player is this guy and
- 58:56Speaker 1: what kind of matchup is that between those two edge
- 58:58Speaker 1: guys from Miami and and Carter Smith from Indiana.
- 59:02Speaker 6: I love that you're mentioning this matchup because everybody's of
- 59:05Speaker 6: course going to focus in on the quarterbacks. But I
- 59:08Speaker 6: think that this game is going to come down to
- 59:10Speaker 6: the lion scrimmage, as most football games do. Carter Smith
- 59:12Speaker 6: is the left tackle for Indiana, and we've seeing talented
- 59:16Speaker 6: offensive tackles from Indiana in the past, but back when
- 59:19Speaker 6: the Hoosiers were a little bit more of a you know,
- 59:22Speaker 6: a spread offense that would prioritize agility and athletic ability
- 59:28Speaker 6: rather than physicality and size and strength. And Carl Smith's
- 59:32Speaker 6: a little bit of a throwback in that way. Six
- 59:36Speaker 6: three hundred and sixteen pounder, he has been a three
- 59:39Speaker 6: year star, thirty six consecutive games, all at the left
- 59:42Speaker 6: tackle position. I don't know that he's got.
- 59:45Speaker 5: Quite the long arms that you want.
- 59:47Speaker 6: To be a left tackle in the NFL, but I
- 59:49Speaker 6: think that he can come in and play guard pretty quickly.
- 59:52Speaker 6: And again that's rare because in the past you'd see,
- 59:56Speaker 6: you know, we've heard Josh Sneider kind of be moaning
- 59:58Speaker 6: the fact that most offensive tackle in college are playout
- 1:00:01Speaker 6: of two point stance. Indiana will get down in a
- 1:00:04Speaker 6: three point stance and move people at the line of scrimmage.
- 1:00:07Speaker 6: I love the matchup between he and Miami's just two
- 1:00:11Speaker 6: headed monster that they have at the edge rusher position,
- 1:00:14Speaker 6: Reuben Bain Junior and a team mesidor both of them
- 1:00:17Speaker 6: are likely going to be, if not first round selections,
- 1:00:21Speaker 6: then early second day picks. I think that Carter Smith
- 1:00:24Speaker 6: has a chance to be in that conversation is when
- 1:00:26Speaker 6: all three of them should be off the boards in
- 1:00:28Speaker 6: the top fifty pick.
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: Let's talk about the other side of the line of scrimmage,
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: and that would be Indiana's defensive line, which has just
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: been terrific all season, maybe not the same star power.
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: They're going against a pretty good offensive tackle from Miami.
- 1:00:43Speaker 6: They absolutely, they absolutely are, and Francis Mayoga, to me,
- 1:00:48Speaker 6: he is the best offensive lineman this draft class team,
- 1:00:50Speaker 6: and I don't think it's even close. You know. Of course,
- 1:00:53Speaker 6: Mario Cristobal is the head coach of Miami previously at Oregon,
- 1:00:57Speaker 6: and he developed a player in Penne s Well, who
- 1:01:01Speaker 6: of course has now become one of the best in
- 1:01:03Speaker 6: all of the NFL at the right tackle position. It's
- 1:01:07Speaker 6: you know, it's difficult to compare any college player to
- 1:01:10Speaker 6: a guy that I think, you know has probably a
- 1:01:13Speaker 6: bust in Canton when it's all said and done in
- 1:01:16Speaker 6: Penne Sewel. But you're talking about a guy who was
- 1:01:19Speaker 6: a five star recruit, could have gone anywhere in the
- 1:01:21Speaker 6: country out of IMG Academy, always going to start the
- 1:01:25Speaker 6: first three seasons of his college career. He has only
- 1:01:29Speaker 6: allowed a couple of sacks over that entire time. And
- 1:01:32Speaker 6: just the size he's six foot six, he's three hundred
- 1:01:35Speaker 6: and thirty pounds, is not any fat on him really,
- 1:01:38Speaker 6: I mean, he is just an absolute block of granite
- 1:01:43Speaker 6: and he just controls people with his hands. He's not
- 1:01:46Speaker 6: the flashiest of athletes, and so I think some speed
- 1:01:49Speaker 6: rushers could give him trouble. You mentioned how talented Indiana.
- 1:01:53Speaker 5: Is up front.
- 1:01:54Speaker 6: They do an awful lot of twists and stunts. They're talented.
- 1:01:57Speaker 6: Especially they have an edge rusher who I think is
- 1:02:01Speaker 6: particularly going to be a difficult challenge for Marioga. But
- 1:02:05Speaker 6: at the same time, Marioga could just move people at
- 1:02:07Speaker 6: the Lion scrimmage, similar to what we talked about with
- 1:02:09Speaker 6: Carter Smith. Again, with Marioga, well I could see happening.
- 1:02:13Speaker 6: It's him coming into the NFL and initially playing guard.
- 1:02:16Speaker 6: I think he could be an absolute all Pro caliber
- 1:02:18Speaker 6: player at that guard position, relatively early in his career,
- 1:02:21Speaker 6: ultimately moving back outside to the right tackle position, where
- 1:02:24Speaker 6: again I think he's going to wind up proving himself
- 1:02:27Speaker 6: to be a long, long time difference maker in the NFL.
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: One more guy I want to talk about in the matchup.
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: I feel like this player hasn't been talked about much
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: this season, especially weird because he had a Heisman Trophy
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: winning quarterback throwing to him, and that would be a
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: mari Cooper, the wide receiver from Indiana against that secondary
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: for the Miami Hurricanes, and I bring his name up
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: because your comp I think is going to be Christian Kirk,
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: which is pretty good time in considering the game he
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: had last week.
- 1:02:58Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:02:58Speaker 6: Well, and that's the thing with the Cooper. You're talking
- 1:03:00Speaker 6: about a guy who has more touchdowns twenty one than
- 1:03:03Speaker 6: he has games started seventeen over his college career. And
- 1:03:07Speaker 6: he's actually, you know, kind of like Christian Kirk, and
- 1:03:10Speaker 6: Seahawk fans might remember Golden Tate more than they know
- 1:03:14Speaker 6: Christian Kirk. But basically six ft two hundred and five pounds,
- 1:03:18Speaker 6: almost more like a running back and then a wide receiver,
- 1:03:21Speaker 6: especially once he gets the ball in his hands. And
- 1:03:23Speaker 6: this is the guy is just a playmaker. I mean,
- 1:03:25Speaker 6: he can be very effective on those you know, a
- 1:03:27Speaker 6: little quick those quick screens and you know, plays like that.
- 1:03:32Speaker 6: He can be a punt returner. He had a seventy
- 1:03:34Speaker 6: four yard touchdown against Ohio State a couple of years ago.
- 1:03:38Speaker 6: He caught the toe tapping touchdown the final seconds from
- 1:03:42Speaker 6: the Heisman Trophy winner Fernando Mendoza to beat Penn State
- 1:03:45Speaker 6: earlier this season. He just has a knack of making
- 1:03:49Speaker 6: big plays at critical moments and you know I'd be
- 1:03:52Speaker 6: remiss we had mentioned Indiana's other receivers Elijah Surat six
- 1:03:56Speaker 6: foot two to two hundred and twenty pounder, Charlie Becker
- 1:04:00Speaker 6: for four tour and ten pounders. Indiana has got a
- 1:04:03Speaker 6: lot of differently sized, shaped, speed type of players that
- 1:04:08Speaker 6: make it that much easier for Minden for four Fernando
- 1:04:12Speaker 6: Mendoza to attack all levels of the field.
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: Great stuff Fox sports dot com. Look for Rob's article
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: there with the top guys, also guys that have declaring
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: and all that. We got draft covers going on. Real quick, Rob,
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: I got to go in about twenty seconds. Do you
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: expect based on the talent that you're familiar with on
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, on both sides for both
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: these teams, do you expect it to be a close
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: game on Monday?
- 1:04:32Speaker 6: I do? I do. I think that that Miami has
- 1:04:35Speaker 6: the edge in termed physicality and the line of scrimmage.
- 1:04:38Speaker 6: I think that Fernando Mendoza has just proven I was
- 1:04:41Speaker 6: a critic of him early on, but he has absolutely proven.
- 1:04:45Speaker 6: You know, he silenced me any other critics. I think
- 1:04:48Speaker 6: ultimately with Dustin Dundee, who Indiana Hoosiers are going to
- 1:04:52Speaker 6: be wind up being national champions man.
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week one way or the other.
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: Rob more to talk about more to converse with Fox
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: sports dot Com are our draft insider. You can all
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: also catch him on the Locked On podcast with some
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: guy named Anders and uh and the great corbyin Smith
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: as well. Thanks, my friend, I appreciate it.
- 1:05:10Speaker 6: Looking forward and talker as always, Ian, Take care.
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: Rob rang listen, We'll take a break, we'll come back.
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: We'll check the text line four nine four five one.
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: That's the Tacoma Dodge text line. How you feel in
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: Seahawks fans? How we feel a nervous confident. Let's get
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: your thoughts next nine three point three.
- 1:05:24Speaker 9: K FM, Now back to Football Friday sponsored by Tito's
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- 1:05:35Speaker 10: Radio ninety three point three.
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: L Let'll get the text here in a second. I
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: just saw this, so I guess. So the top, the
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: top quarterback in the portals going to Miami next year
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: a Duke. But but I think there's a thing with that.
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: I think Duke is going to try to pull a
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: demon Williams. Yep, right, Yeah, They're gonna try to hold
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: him to it. He signed a two year contract with
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: with Duke Right. Yes, yeah, that would be Darien Mensa.
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: I also saw this. This is my favorite. This that
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: that'll take care of itself and we'll watch with great glee,
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: unless you Mark James and he'll he'll watch every second
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: of it. See what happens. Malaki Nelson, UTEP quarterback is
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: going to Syracuse. Let me give you the rundown of
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: his resume for you. This is where mess is all
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: messed up. College football is five star out of high school,
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: top quarterback. When the top two or three quarterbacks in
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: the country started at USC went to Boise State, went
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: to UTEP, now going to Syracuse. Four schools. I don't know, buddy,
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: Maybe you're just not that good. Maybe you're just not
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: that what's.
- 1:06:48Speaker 8: The common denominator for things not working here?
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: It would be Malachi Nelson's anders. I mean, I get,
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: I think the hard thing is, I know it is
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: this a bothers me?
- 1:07:01Speaker 6: You know.
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: Part of it is when you're a five star quarterback.
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: Sam Heward went through the same stuff, goes to Washington
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: dipstick coach Jimmy Lake makes them go there, leave high
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: school early, like literally forced them go early, goes there,
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: gets thrown to the fire in the Apple Cup, And
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: I like Sam, that was garbage what they did to
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: him instead of Dylan Morris playing that game. I love
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: the fact that we beat the Brakes off. That was cool,
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: but it just started a downward spiral for and your
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: expectations are so high when you have all those stars
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: next to your name, much less in il stuff. But yeah,
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: it's just we're ruining kids. Man, as many kids as
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: we're making millionaires, we're ruining a lot of other kids.
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the text four nine four
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: or five one the Tacoma Dots text line. I asked everyone,
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: I said, how we feel and see, let's just gauge
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: the barometer out there, see how it thinks. My favorite
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: one came in. Let me see. Oh god, we've already
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: had more time come in. I gotta find this one.
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: Let's see extremely, extremely confident, no worries at all. Save
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: all the doubt and worries for the Rams next week.
- 1:08:03Speaker 8: Really, it might not even be the Rams next week.
- 1:08:06Speaker 8: I'd be happy if it wasn't the Rems next week.
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: We're big Bears fans, Yes we are right.
- 1:08:12Speaker 8: I think I think they have a chance to.
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: I'm fired up at nervous at the same time. This
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: is my first year that I've been getting literally sick
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: nauseous watching these games. I'm praying that we win. I
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: believe go Hawks.
- 1:08:22Speaker 8: It means you care. It means you care.
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: Let's see. Nervous is heck? But very confident too nervous
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: because they are so young. Confident because they are so
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: damn good. I like it.
- 1:08:33Speaker 8: Yeah, I like it to two six. I love this one.
- 1:08:36Speaker 7: More confident than a hooker on island with a thousand
- 1:08:38Speaker 7: men overdosing on viagra, no worries at all.
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: Wow, can you overdose on viagra?
- 1:08:42Speaker 8: I think I don't think so.
- 1:08:44Speaker 9: Isn't it a heart thing?
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: Though?
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: Isn't the danger in that? I? Well, I was told
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: by someone else. I've got to actually, I've actually got
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: to be careful with this. I can tell you I've
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: never used it, but or even a blue choo, to
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: be honest with you. Easy. One of those we had
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: friends we lived in Vancouver, America's Vancouver America's Vancouver, Ventucky
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: and close friends of ours. Our kids play sports together,
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: and she, the wife, was a pharmaceutical rep and one
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: of her things was viagrant, and I said, hey, man,
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: why don't you give me one? See how it works
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: like I want to. And my wife looks at me like,
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: are you kidding? And I said and and then and
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: she says, do you need it? And I said loaded question?
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: I said business, I said, if I'm being honest, no,
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: And she says, all we would do is give you
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: a headache. It would literally give you interesting. Yeah, so
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why. I said, I
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: don't know if you can overdose on that stuff. Let's
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: see my feelings regarding the Hawks burning confidence with a
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: side of soul crushing doubt. So a Seahawks fan.
- 1:09:48Speaker 8: Yeah, sounds very much a Seahawks fan.
- 1:09:52Speaker 7: But this is so good, so good because it's like, yeah,
- 1:09:58Speaker 7: we have the better team, but it's like I'm also like,
- 1:10:00Speaker 7: we'll be devastated if we lose.
- 1:10:02Speaker 8: It's always a roller coaster too. I like this confidence
- 1:10:05Speaker 8: here from the two O six. The duct tape can't
- 1:10:07Speaker 8: hold the Niners any longer.
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: The Hawks roll thirty two to ten. I will I
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: will tell you this. I ran into a former NFL player,
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: including time with the Seahawks up here at Hawks Peak
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: about an hour ago. Okay, he was wandering around with
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: his kids, and I said what do you think? He says,
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: two touchdowns? And then I said what do you think
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: about rams Bears? He goes, I wouldn't touch that thing
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: with a ten football, don't chance. And probably because a
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: lot of the weather.
- 1:10:37Speaker 8: Right, oh right, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly.
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: So like you don't know, worried about a desperate wounded
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: team trick plays must be weary.
- 1:10:46Speaker 8: Yeah, I could totally see that well.
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: And Cosell brought that up. Yeah right, Coselle brought that up.
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: Cosselle brought that up early on the one o'clock hour.
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: He said, Hey, I don't you know, like they're gonna
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: do something. There's gonna be some Harry high school stuff.
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: As our friends you Milan would say, there gonna be
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: some Harry Heiks cool stuff going on with with him
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: with Kyle Shanahan along the way. God, that is such
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: a good one though, I mean goodness, me like my
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: feelings regarding the Hawks, burning confidence with a side of soul,
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: crushing doubts with Seahawks man is.
- 1:11:18Speaker 7: Man because Mariner fan that's different than Marion fan, because
- 1:11:23Speaker 7: Marion fan would just be soul crushing doubt and like,
- 1:11:26Speaker 7: I won't believe it until I see it, but the
- 1:11:28Speaker 7: confidence part tells you that, you like, that's Seahawks have
- 1:11:31Speaker 7: done this before, and they have the history, and they
- 1:11:33Speaker 7: have done in the regular season too.
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: Seven point five Mike McDonald's defense. That's all that needs
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: to be set fair enough, Okay, okay, about a five?
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: Like most games is Marcus still don't trust the offense.
- 1:11:48Speaker 8: The highest scoring offense the NFL.
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: That's so weird though, what happened two weeks ago. But
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: Danny's right, like and Cosell and Danny both said the
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: same thing. What happened two weeks ago has zero to
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: do what's gonna happen tomorrow, right, Like, It's just different game,
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: different circumstances, different everything. I just I don't think that
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: San Francisco has enough weapons if they were one hundred
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: percent healthy and on offense, and I guess that would
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: only include meaning what what's his face?
- 1:12:18Speaker 8: Uh?
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: Kiddle will be back because Yuk's been gone all year, right,
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: so that would be it. Piersol, I guess yeah, Kiddle
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: and piersall add those two guys in the list. Are
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: they still it's still Mike McDonald's defense. Yeah, they're playing
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: at a really high level.
- 1:12:31Speaker 7: I do like what Danny said though about like in
- 1:12:34Speaker 7: terms of adjustments from week eighteen, you're the forty nine ers,
- 1:12:37Speaker 7: you absolutely are going to be making adjustments. If you're
- 1:12:39Speaker 7: the Seahawks, you're like, well, we just played them two
- 1:12:41Speaker 7: weeks ago. Is our last game that we played and
- 1:12:43Speaker 7: we dominated them. What do we need to adjust at
- 1:12:45Speaker 7: this point? So you're kind of behind the eight ball
- 1:12:47Speaker 7: in that sense. But good teams, even when they win,
- 1:12:49Speaker 7: still make adjustments.
- 1:12:50Speaker 8: So I don't know.
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see two oh six. I don't drink or
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: do drugs or anything. And one time it took two
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: viagra when I was in New Orleans with my wife
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: and a bunch of other people. About five hours later,
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: stone out of my mind and could barely walk.
- 1:13:01Speaker 8: Wow.
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: It was only months later when I realized why it
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: was so blanked up. And No, the answer your next question,
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: it was not helpful. You might've got roofy there, fellow,
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: I was gonna say in there in New Orleans, you
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: might have You might have been having that virgin hurricane
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: or whatever you're having. If you don't drink or due drunks.
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: First of all, you don't drink or dud drugs? Why
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: are you in New Orleans? Like do you just like
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: the Cajun food? I mean, I guess super Like, what
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: are you doing? Like what do you wander around New Orleans?
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: If you don't do any devices that are in New Orleans?
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: I mean, if you're not getting hammered, if you're not
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: chasing a hooker? If you're not, I mean, what are
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: you doing? What are you doing down there? What's wrong
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: with you? Man? All right, let's see ah that. Uh,
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm good. I'm I'll be honest with you. Yeah,
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: I know, I know. We got the we got the
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: round table coming up at three o'clock. I'm talked out
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: of this thing.
- 1:13:52Speaker 8: We had too long, We've had way too long.
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: I'm just done. And it's you know what rerihnves me of,
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: like having a bye week and reminds me very much
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: of of Super Bowl and stuff, except for super Bowl.
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: You know who you're playing? Yeah, right, so you can
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: talk to a zillion people from that city and you
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: can do all that stuff, But like the two weeks
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: in between, like I'm sports radioed out. I need to
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: get this game tomorrow. I needed to happen. I'm sure
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: I can get someone to agree with me. His name
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: would be Dave Softy Maller, and he is going to
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: join us next already not really wrapping things up for
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: the still calling me casino and Hotel Hawks, Peach Sports
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: Bar and because I'll be here for a little while
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: after three o'clock with my good friend David Maller.
- 1:14:43Speaker 10: Hey, I'm doing you a favorite man. Traffic's terrible going
- 1:14:45Speaker 10: back to Maple Valley right now.
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: Awful, just awful. You're doing your favorite by keeping me
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: away from the tables and the slots and everything else
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing anyway.
- 1:14:53Speaker 10: So doing that revive I five crap. You know this
- 1:14:56Speaker 10: is the horror of Highway eighteen.
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: Okay, say what was it called again?
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: The horror?
- 1:15:00Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 1:15:01Speaker 2: Yeah, horror horror.
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: Have you have you dealt with the I five stuff yet?
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: I have not? No, I don't deal with fire. I
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: mean I dealt with it a little bit.
- 1:15:09Speaker 9: Uh.
- 1:15:09Speaker 10: We were having dinner the other day before the UW
- 1:15:12Speaker 10: Michigan game, and we drove up there to heck Ad
- 1:15:14Speaker 10: after dinner, and it was a little bit hairy getting
- 1:15:16Speaker 10: through I five to mot Lake.
- 1:15:17Speaker 2: But that's the great part about living where I live.
- 1:15:19Speaker 4: Man.
- 1:15:19Speaker 1: I don't mess with Ie five at all, hardly ever.
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: So yeah, I am, I am told. I am told
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: the following dues. I've just got this in.
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: It's all lies, by the way, all lies. Whatever you're told,
- 1:15:30Speaker 2: all lies.
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: Well this is from a man juice down at the
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: Occidental where you're.
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: At okay, probably lies.
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: Okay where you are sitting now? Yes, I believe you're there, right,
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: I am here at the Occidental Hall. Correct, doors open
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: at eleven tomorrow. The beer garden opens at one. Yep,
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: all right, beer garden only special twelve man equals twelve
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: percent discount on beers. That's right. If you wear Seahawks gear,
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: you get cheaper beer. Blank the Niners, I think they're
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: charging them more so. Queen Anne and the Moss Bay halls. Uh,
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: they say, if you're going there to watch the games tomorrow,
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: Like you're not. You're not going to the game. But
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: you go in the Queen Ane Beer Hall or the
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: Moss Bay Beer Hall. He said, get there early. They
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: expect to be full by one thirty or two o'clock.
- 1:16:13Speaker 2: Well, why do you think we're here now?
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: I mean about are you staying the right.
- 1:16:18Speaker 2: What do you think I'm doing here?
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: Man's set up for you.
- 1:16:21Speaker 10: No, there's a hotel across the street in case they
- 1:16:23Speaker 10: know that, called the Silver Cloud. I mean, Jude, you
- 1:16:26Speaker 10: got an offense? I can sleeping upstairs? He says, Yes,
- 1:16:29Speaker 10: we got a cop, we got a sleeping bag.
- 1:16:31Speaker 2: I might just pitch a tent on occidental.
- 1:16:34Speaker 10: I mean, there's a bunch of other people that are
- 1:16:36Speaker 10: pitching tents on occidental around here. You'll everyone else is
- 1:16:41Speaker 10: sleeping in the freaking street around these parts.
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: Why can't I do that?
- 1:16:44Speaker 1: What's that they cleaned up Hawk's Alley? Is that what
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: I heard? Like, I don't know that I saw that.
- 1:16:49Speaker 2: Well, you know what? You know what that is?
- 1:16:51Speaker 10: He and that's a test run for the World Cup,
- 1:16:53Speaker 10: is what that is. That's why they're cleaning it up, right,
- 1:16:56Speaker 10: it's a test run for the World Cup. How hard
- 1:16:59Speaker 10: is it going to be to get the bums out
- 1:17:00Speaker 10: of the way. Let's do a test run before the
- 1:17:02Speaker 10: Seahawk Niner game and then we'll see how difficult it's
- 1:17:05Speaker 10: gonna be for.
- 1:17:05Speaker 2: The World Cup.
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: I think they're I think they I think they kind
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: of did that because it was wasn't the same year
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: we had the Winter Classic in the All Star Game
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: for base Yes, correct, both of those events. All this
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: because I would I drive down that way to work
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: every day, and it's like weird. For a few weeks,
- 1:17:20Speaker 1: they're all nice and clean. It's all nice, that's weird dances, man,
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: and then you know, by April it's all bad again.
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, July rolls around and
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: it's all it's clean again. So yeah, well, yeah, pitch
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: a tent hangout. You know, I just went out in
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: front of battles. You gotta have some smash burgers for dinner,
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: and the way you go, right, yes, absolutely, well I am.
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: I'm fired up for tomorrow, man. I I actually have
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: got a plan, I think a good plan for this
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: weekend and then hopefully knock on what if they win
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: in the next week, I'm gonna go slow tomorrow. I'm
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna preserve my liver for the next Sunday.
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: Who are you slow tomorrow? Who am I speaking to?
- 1:17:54Speaker 10: I'm a fifty two year old, married white guy with
- 1:17:57Speaker 10: a bad liver, is what I am. All right, So
- 1:17:58Speaker 10: I'm gonna I'm gonna wait and if we win tomorrow night.
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: Then I'll go nuts tomorrow after the game, and then
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: continue going nuts all week into pregame next Sunday at
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: three thirty. I've known you for about twenty years, right,
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: I don't believe a word you're saying.
- 1:18:12Speaker 5: Now, You're right?
- 1:18:16Speaker 10: Oh, do I not say I'm gonna be blitzed by
- 1:18:18Speaker 10: seven am? That's what I meant to say. I'm sorry,
- 1:18:21Speaker 10: did that come out wrong? It's gonna be the wrong words.
- 1:18:24Speaker 10: It's stressed, It'll be stress drinking.
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: Who are you? Who you hang out with? And you
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: hang out with the guys I normally know, like the
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: Nicholson knuckleheads and the.
- 1:18:31Speaker 2: Yeah, those guys are going to the game tomorrow.
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: Okay, you're gonna take.
- 1:18:35Speaker 10: Genas jumping on the wagon postseason Gina is back.
- 1:18:39Speaker 2: You know how that works.
- 1:18:40Speaker 10: Man doesn't go to one Mariner game the whole year
- 1:18:42Speaker 10: and then can't wait to go to a playoff game. Yeah,
- 1:18:44Speaker 10: doesn't go to one Seahawk game the whole year, can't
- 1:18:46Speaker 10: wait to go to a playoff game. And I told
- 1:18:48Speaker 10: you two years ago during the Husky run that the
- 1:18:51Speaker 10: twenty three Husky run, she went to two games and
- 1:18:53Speaker 10: they were in Houston and New Orleans.
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: Okay, semis in the finals.
- 1:18:56Speaker 10: Perfect, that's right, all right, So and she's already saying
- 1:19:00Speaker 10: we're doing the Super Bowl, right if they go, I'm like,
- 1:19:02Speaker 10: I guess, my god, what the hell kid?
- 1:19:04Speaker 1: You guys said you guys had great seats in New York,
- 1:19:07Speaker 1: did you.
- 1:19:07Speaker 2: We had great seats in New York. We had great
- 1:19:09Speaker 2: seats in New York.
- 1:19:10Speaker 10: We had great seats in New England until Russell or Glendale,
- 1:19:13Speaker 10: until Russell Wilson decided to throw a pick right in
- 1:19:15Speaker 10: front of us, and then we did not have great seats.
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: Well, let's just let's you know what, let's start erasing
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: all those memories. That's right, right, Well, what do you want?
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: What do you want?
- 1:19:22Speaker 10: You want to rematch against the Patriots, rematch against Denver?
- 1:19:25Speaker 2: What do you want? Buffalo? You want Houston?
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: No, I want to rematch with the Patriots. But that
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: has nothing to do with anything other than finance, right,
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: and certain things that are on the line.
- 1:19:36Speaker 10: And if Buffalo is in the game, Oh, you mean,
- 1:19:38Speaker 10: like I bet you got I got yeah ticket, you're
- 1:19:40Speaker 10: gonna say, if Buffalo is in the game, forget it.
- 1:19:42Speaker 10: You're not getting in the front door for under ten
- 1:19:44Speaker 10: thousand bucks in that game.
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: I mean, that'll be a home game for them, won't it.
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: Even if it's like for Buffalo, like that whole city
- 1:19:49Speaker 1: would would find a way to I.
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: Mean it's gonna be wild. I mean the market right
- 1:19:54Speaker 2: now is nuts.
- 1:19:54Speaker 10: I've been reading where ticket prices are at all time
- 1:19:57Speaker 10: record highs for the divisional games for this weekend.
- 1:19:59Speaker 2: You know, my have you looked king, I.
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: Know you will. Have you looked at super Bowl tickets yet?
- 1:20:04Speaker 7: Oh?
- 1:20:04Speaker 10: Yeah, it's seven thousand dollars, But that's you know, look
- 1:20:07Speaker 10: at those tickets now.
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: I mean, you got a month before the game.
- 1:20:10Speaker 10: You gotta wait until like the week before the game
- 1:20:12Speaker 10: to see what they're really going for.
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: Did you what'd you pay in New York? In Arizona?
- 1:20:18Speaker 2: Oh god, Arizona. I well, I'll tell you this.
- 1:20:21Speaker 10: I got offered forty thousand dollars for my four seats
- 1:20:24Speaker 10: for that game.
- 1:20:25Speaker 2: It airs all to myself.
- 1:20:26Speaker 10: Then I got to go buy four more tickets from
- 1:20:28Speaker 10: somebody else, and maybe I can do that and make
- 1:20:30Speaker 10: a couple thousand bucks. But I don't remember what I paid.
- 1:20:33Speaker 10: It was a lot of money. My mom and dad
- 1:20:34Speaker 10: bought a pair. I bought a pair for me and Gina,
- 1:20:37Speaker 10: and then went to the game in New York with
- 1:20:38Speaker 10: some friends and I think ten eleven years ago, we're
- 1:20:41Speaker 10: paying fifteen hundred, couple thousand bucks maybe a ticket to
- 1:20:44Speaker 10: get in the door. But I mean that was ten
- 1:20:46Speaker 10: years ago, dude, it was yeah, eleven years ago. I
- 1:20:48Speaker 10: mean two thousand and six Detroit Seahawks.
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: I think of our tickets were like what dick like
- 1:20:53Speaker 1: four hundred bucks to get in the door, and we
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: had fifty yard.
- 1:20:56Speaker 10: Line seats for that game. This is how long it's been,
- 1:20:58Speaker 10: by the way, since that first souper. You want to
- 1:21:00Speaker 10: hear how long it's been in the radio station actually
- 1:21:04Speaker 10: paid for our seats for that game.
- 1:21:07Speaker 2: Yeah, they paid for our seats. That's how much has
- 1:21:10Speaker 2: changed in this business twenty years ago.
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: That's hysterical. Is there any part of you that wish
- 1:21:15Speaker 1: you would have sold those tickets in Arizona? And not?
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: That's why you know what, That's why you slay the
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: dragon starting tomorrow. There you knock off the forty nine ers,
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: and hell, what the hell bring on the rams knocked
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: them off as well, and right and anything the AFC
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: throws at you. At that point, I forget it's a
- 1:21:35Speaker 1: nothing burger. I thought about going Baz Road.
- 1:21:37Speaker 10: I honestly thought about going to Toronto for Game seven,
- 1:21:39Speaker 10: and then Andrews reminded me that Toronto Blue Jay fans
- 1:21:42Speaker 10: are animals, and so I stay at home home, by
- 1:21:45Speaker 10: the way, because I would have seen that loss in
- 1:21:46Speaker 10: person and paid a lot of money to go out.
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: There, So that would not have that would have been
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: a bad investment. Yeah, yeah, save it for the World Series.
- 1:21:52Speaker 2: Yes, sir, yes, sir.
- 1:21:53Speaker 10: All right, so you're gonna be up there. Apparently is
- 1:21:57Speaker 10: Chuck joining you or is he? Is he at his
- 1:21:59Speaker 10: home base?
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: I am sitting here by myself right now. I'm very
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: so you stick around. Chuck's gonna join us. Mark James
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: is here. I'm actually shocked that Mark is here, by
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: the way. I'll tell you why next segment. Dick Fane
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: is here at the hall on Oxen Listay, Hey, we
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: got we got we got a studio audience in two
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: youre David.
- 1:22:16Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well you know what, just keep hanging around.
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: Esty's right here. Do you want to more people there?
- 1:22:22Speaker 2: Don't get them off with you.
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: For the mild mannered and marginally objectionable the inverness, This
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: is Paddle Day, saying so long everyone,