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Young College Student Disappears After Night Out With Friends. What Happened to Lauren Spierer? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a twenty year old girl
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Speaker 1: goes missing and a popular college town Bloomington, Indiana. Where
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Speaker 1: is Lauren Spearer? I mean you see Grace. This is
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Speaker 1: crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at
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Speaker 1: Fox Nation in serious XM one eleven. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to our cut two. This is our friend Pat Lilama,
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Speaker 1: Crimewatch Daily, June third, Just after midnight, Lauren leaves her
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Speaker 1: small Wood Plaza apartment and heads to fellow student Jason
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Speaker 1: Rosenbaum's party at five North Town Homes. It's the beginning
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Speaker 1: of a night of heavy drinking. At one forty six am,
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Speaker 1: Lauren and another friend, Cory Rossman, leave the party and
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Speaker 1: walk down the street to Kilroy Sports Bar. Witnesses Lauren
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Speaker 1: is already drunk and barely able to stand. Cops later
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Speaker 1: find her shoes and cell phone at the bar. At
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Speaker 1: two twenty seven am, Lauren and Corey head back to
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Speaker 1: her apartment. They never get to her room. Once inside
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Speaker 1: the complex, investigators say Corey argues with another student and
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Speaker 1: gets punched in the face. At two forty eight, Corey
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Speaker 1: and Lauren head back to Corey's place through this dark alley.
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Speaker 1: Witnesses say, Lauren is so out of it now she
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Speaker 1: falls and hits her head. Bloomington police find Lauren's ID
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Speaker 1: and keys in the alley. Keys id in the alley,
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Speaker 1: but no Lauren. Take a listen to our cut three out.
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Speaker 1: Around three am, the two get back to Corey's apartment.
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Speaker 1: Corey says he passes out, then claims he suffered amnesia
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Speaker 1: from getting punched in the face earlier and now tells
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Speaker 1: police he remembers nothing about that night. Corey's roommate tells
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Speaker 1: police he calls Jason Rosenbaum, the guy Lauren was parting
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Speaker 1: with earlier, to come get his friend. Corey's roommate claims
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Speaker 1: that's the last time he ever saw Lauren. At four
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Speaker 1: or fourteen, This grainy surveillance video captures a white pickup
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Speaker 1: cruising nearby. Four fifteen am, Jason walks Lauren back to
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Speaker 1: his apartment. He tells police she wanted to go home,
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Speaker 1: so he watched her walk to this intersection from his balcony.
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Speaker 1: Jason claims a shadowy figure approached Lauren when she turned
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Speaker 1: toward her apartment. Lauren never made it home. What happened
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Speaker 1: to Lauren, just twenty years old? For Scarzille, New York.
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Speaker 1: She graduated at Edgemont High School and enrolled at Indiana University.
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Speaker 1: She moved to Bloomington to study fashion and fashion merchandise.
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Speaker 1: Still no clues as the months and years pass with
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Speaker 1: me at All Star panel tried to make sense of
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Speaker 1: what we know about the disappearance of Laurence Spier. Wendy
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Speaker 1: Patrick joining US California prosecutor, author of Red Flags on
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Speaker 1: Amazon and host of Today with Doctor Wendy on CASEBQ
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Speaker 1: San Diego. Doctor Angela Arnold, aronownced Psychiatrists, joining us from
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Speaker 1: the Atlanta jurisdiction. You can find her at Angela Arnold
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Speaker 1: MD dot com. Michael Siavolo the Spier family, private investigator
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Speaker 1: with Bo Didal and associates, former commander in YPD. But
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Speaker 1: first to Nicole parton Crime Online dot Com investigative reporters
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Speaker 1: joining us. Nicole, what happened? It sounds like everybody was
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Speaker 1: partying around a game, a college game, right, So this
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Speaker 1: is one of the common things I think that her
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Speaker 1: and her group of friends would do. But this particular time,
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Speaker 1: they were celebrating the NBA playoffs, so they started this
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Speaker 1: pregame celebration at one friend's home. They left that friend,
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Speaker 1: they went down to kill Ray Sports Bar. She left
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Speaker 1: with one of her friends, Corey. They walked back to
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Speaker 1: his apartment. They went to another friend's apartment. It was
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Speaker 1: a night long party from one place to the other,
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Speaker 1: back and forth. And there are moments that we capture surveillance.
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Speaker 1: There are moments we have witnesses, and then there are
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Speaker 1: moments when we don't know what happened. Joining me is
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Speaker 1: a very special guest, Michael Sarah, the Spear Family, private
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Speaker 1: investigator with Bode lenn Associates. Michael, thank you for being
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Speaker 1: joined us. Thank you for being with us. Michael, what
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Speaker 1: is your understanding about what happened that night? Well, I've
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Speaker 1: always maintained during the course of this investigation that one
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Speaker 1: of three things may have Befallen Laurence in the yearly
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Speaker 1: morning hours of third number one being she never left
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Speaker 1: the house of Jay Rosenbaum. Uh, she had a heart condition,
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Speaker 1: she had some alcohol that evening, and perhaps she just
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Speaker 1: passed the natural causes, and the boys up there, not
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Speaker 1: wanting to mess up their their careers after college, they
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Speaker 1: all come from affluent families, may have disposed of her
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Speaker 1: body in some way. Shape of form. The second scenario,
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Speaker 1: which is very much still in play, is that her
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Speaker 1: boyfriend Jesse Wolfe, who was known to be very jealous
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Speaker 1: and protective of Lauren, may have gotten wind that she
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Speaker 1: was out with Corey Rusman and UH and fratnizing with
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Speaker 1: these other boys out of his circle of friends, and
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Speaker 1: may have later you know, may have been lying in
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Speaker 1: wait for her once she left that apartment, and things
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Speaker 1: might have gotten out of hand if there was a confrontation,
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Speaker 1: and UH, maybe her boyfriend Jesse Wolfe did something to
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Speaker 1: her and disposed of the body. And the third UH scenario,
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Speaker 1: which is as I say, very much in play, is
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Speaker 1: that an opportunist on the street, a stranger, a random opportunist,
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Speaker 1: may have seen a ninety five pound barefoot girl walking
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Speaker 1: down the street UH intoxicated and take an advantage of
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Speaker 1: her and put her in his car and made made
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Speaker 1: off with her. So those are the three scenarios that
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Speaker 1: any one of them are possible. There's no one that
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Speaker 1: is stronger than the other. And at this point in time,
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Speaker 1: ten years into the investigation. One of the reason I
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Speaker 1: do these types of shows is in hopes someone who
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Speaker 1: knows something will come forward and say something, give us
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Speaker 1: a substantive tip so we can bring some closure to
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Speaker 1: the spear of family and bring Lauren home. Takeul us
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Speaker 1: to our cut four. This is what's happening after the
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Speaker 1: immediate disappearance of Lauren Spearer. This is our front Angeline
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Speaker 1: Hartmann on AMW right now. A massive search is underway
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Speaker 1: in Bloomington, Indiana for Lauren Speer, a twenty year old
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Speaker 1: sophomore at Indiana University. Lauren disappeared on Friday, June third.
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Speaker 1: Police say Lauren left a Bloomington sports bar around two
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Speaker 1: thirty am with a mail acquaintance. She briefly stopped buying
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Speaker 1: her apartment building before going out once more around four
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Speaker 1: thirty am. Lauren supposedly told friends she was calling it
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Speaker 1: a knife and was headed home. But no one has
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Speaker 1: seen her since. No one has seen her since. Let's
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Speaker 1: walk through her steps that night to you, Nicole parton,
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Speaker 1: what can you tell us? So they started out partying
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Speaker 1: with friends, a group of about ten of these college
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Speaker 1: students early in the evening, midnight something like that. They
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Speaker 1: finished kind of partying there, she goes back to her
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Speaker 1: apartment for a moment. She leaves her apartment. She goes
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Speaker 1: to the apartment of a friend, Corey Rossman. Her and
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Speaker 1: Corey Rossman make their way down to kill Ray's Sports Bar,
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Speaker 1: where they again meet up with friends. They're's drinking their
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Speaker 1: partying there. That's where we believe that Lauren loses her
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Speaker 1: cell phone and her shoes. Kill ray Sports Bar has
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Speaker 1: an outside Wait right there, right there, Wendy Patrick, if
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Speaker 1: you're hearing what Nicole Partner is saying, she Lee loses
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Speaker 1: her cell phone and her shoes, How do you lose
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Speaker 1: your cell phone and your shoes? Yeah, that's a huge
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Speaker 1: red flag. That's most people probably wouldn't lose those items.
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Speaker 1: Those are pretty important. So right away you start to
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Speaker 1: sort of take the story apart and figure out, wait
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Speaker 1: a minute, who was there? Who possibly could have seen that?
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Speaker 1: And you begin to form a timeline when you start
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Speaker 1: hearing stacts like that very very important. What about it
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Speaker 1: to you, doctor Angel Arnold? What does that tell you? Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean, Nancy, it tells me that from what you
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Speaker 1: said at the very beginning, they were out for a
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Speaker 1: night of partying, and it tells me it sounds like
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Speaker 1: she was a little bit too drunk for her own good.
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Speaker 1: Stop right there. So you're blaming her. No, no, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm not. Yeah, well it sounds like when you say
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Speaker 1: she was a little too drunk for her own good, Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean, Nancy somehow her fault, you know, Nancy, I'm
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Speaker 1: not blaming her, but I'm but I'm saying, if you
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Speaker 1: are very intoxicated, you lose the ability to make good
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Speaker 1: decisions for yourself, and you also can lose your things.
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Speaker 1: And it sounds like that's what happened to her. But
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I mean, poor thing. I've got kids
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Speaker 1: this age, Nancy, and you know, you talk to them
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Speaker 1: and you teach them and you ask them not to
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Speaker 1: drink too much and things like that. But but sometimes
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Speaker 1: kids go out and they have a really good time.
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Speaker 1: And every last one of us has done that in
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Speaker 1: our lives, I believe. And it's very speak for yourself, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. What transpired that night? We
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Speaker 1: know the family immediately goes to the location. Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to our friend Jackie Howard at crime online dot com.
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Speaker 1: This is cut five. Lauren Spierer's family traveled from New
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Speaker 1: York to Indiana as Bloomington police launched an all out
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Speaker 1: search effort along with hundreds of volunteers. Lauren's father. This area,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of open space and wooded areas. We're
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Speaker 1: asking that you checked your own properties to look through
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Speaker 1: the fields, look through the woods, look in the barns
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Speaker 1: to see if you can find anything. After a week,
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Speaker 1: there is still no sign of Lauren, her mother, Charlene.
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Speaker 1: Somebody knows where Lauren is. Somebody knows. Lauren is four
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Speaker 1: feet eleven inches tall with long, blonde hair and blue eyes.
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Speaker 1: The police went out. However, if she was kidnapped, her
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Speaker 1: appearance may have been altered. Were there any signs straight
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Speaker 1: out to you? Private investigator for the Spear family, Michael Cirevola,
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Speaker 1: were there any signs or any evidence that pointed to
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Speaker 1: a kidnap. No, When you say kidnap, that would bring
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Speaker 1: in scenario number three. An opportunist on the street. I
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Speaker 1: spend many many weeks in Bloomington, and late at night,
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Speaker 1: in the early morning hours, there are some some homeless
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Speaker 1: types that roam the street at night, and you know,
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Speaker 1: coming across a petite, little attractive, barefoot girl, she could
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Speaker 1: could have been easy prey for someone you know who's
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Speaker 1: a rapist or something along those lines to snapper up
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Speaker 1: off the street. I mean, it is in the realm
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Speaker 1: of possibility. And that's why the three scenarios that I
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Speaker 1: pointed out earlier remain at play. Here we are ten
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Speaker 1: years later, and they remain in play. Check us to
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Speaker 1: our cut six. This is Catherine Schaffey WCBS. Twenty year
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Speaker 1: old Lawrence Spear vanished two weeks ago. Today, while Bloomington
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Speaker 1: police have received more than five hundred tips on the
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Speaker 1: white truck that was circling where she was last seeing
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Speaker 1: her dad, Robert Spear is still begging anyone with information
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Speaker 1: to come forward, get the courage and tell us anything
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Speaker 1: that you know. As he gets choked up, his wife
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Speaker 1: explains that's all he wants for Father's Day, and then
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Speaker 1: Spear continues, let your parents know that how much you
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Speaker 1: love them, And the parents out there on Sunday, make
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Speaker 1: sure that you let your children no how much you
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Speaker 1: love them. Five hundred tips on a truck circling the
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Speaker 1: area where Lauren was last saying, a truck circling I mean,
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Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick. That brings up all sorts of horrible connotations.
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Speaker 1: Oh it sure does. That's our worst nightmare. You know
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Speaker 1: when I was growing up, it was the white van
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Speaker 1: with no windows. Now it's almost anybody that's casing a scene.
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Speaker 1: And you know, neighborhood watch is only as good as
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Speaker 1: people that are watching. And so when you do see
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Speaker 1: this type of activity in a certain area, it definitely
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Speaker 1: means something. The clue no to figure out whether or
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Speaker 1: not it's connected to the disappearance particular. Listen now to
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Speaker 1: our friends at WCBS eighty radio are cut seven. Listen.
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Speaker 1: Police are expanding who they're speaking to. Friends and associates
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Speaker 1: of Lauren's Spear are now being questioned. While they don't
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Speaker 1: have a suspect, cup say, they do have a number
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Speaker 1: of persons of interest. Police are now also exploring the
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Speaker 1: possibility that Spear overdosed on cocaine, a tip that Bloomington
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Speaker 1: Police Captain Joe Qualters says they have received. We've also
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Speaker 1: heard a lot of other types of information. We are
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Speaker 1: not going to focus on one aspect of information that
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Speaker 1: we get in until that information can be corroborated. I Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: Spears's father, Robert Spears, says they're not giving up on
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Speaker 1: their search and we are very much focused on finding Lauren,
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Speaker 1: and he's urging anyone with information to come forward. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how the suggestion that she oded on cocaine
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Speaker 1: when there was not any evidence that she had used
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Speaker 1: it before, wormed its way into the investigation. Is that
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Speaker 1: to denigrate her, to somehow drag her through the mud.
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Speaker 1: And also, who would have known she oeded on cocaine?
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Speaker 1: And if she did od on cocaine, why didn't you
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Speaker 1: want to just call nine one one? That doesn't make
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Speaker 1: sense to me, Wendy Patrick, that somebody ods passes out
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Speaker 1: and you stand by and let them die, you don't
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Speaker 1: call nine one one, And then what disposed of the body.
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Speaker 1: That's just like the argument that George Anthony stood by
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Speaker 1: and saw Kelly drowning in the pool, then instead of
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Speaker 1: calling nine one one when he finds her body or
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Speaker 1: trying to resustate her, he puts her in a trash
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Speaker 1: bag and throws her in the woods. No, if that
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Speaker 1: did not happen, in Corey would say, that's not a
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Speaker 1: reasonable interpretation of the evidence. It's not the way somebody
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Speaker 1: would act if those facts happened. If somebody would definitely
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Speaker 1: call nine one one, you would find the evidence you
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Speaker 1: needed to be able to explain what happened, and that
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Speaker 1: would exonerate you. It's it's beyond the pill to suggest
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Speaker 1: unreasonable actions in response to what most people would see
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Speaker 1: as an emergency that paramedics would probably be able to
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Speaker 1: help you through. So no, that's probably not going to
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Speaker 1: fly at the reason. Who are those people that are
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Speaker 1: calling in claiming she oded? How did they know that?
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Speaker 1: Were they there? Are they the ones that hit her body?
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Speaker 1: And it also doesn't fit to me with the facts,
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Speaker 1: because we know that around two forty eight am, everybody's
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Speaker 1: out celebrating the NBA Playoffs. They're all going from bar
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Speaker 1: to bar a group of people. Spear entered an alley
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Speaker 1: that runs between College Avenue and Morton Street. Security cameras
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Speaker 1: mounted there actually show her at two fifty one am
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Speaker 1: walking toward an empt lot. We don't know where she
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Speaker 1: was going now. Her keys and her purse were found
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Speaker 1: along this route through the alley. Spear and Rossman arrived
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Speaker 1: at the apartment shortly after. A roommate at the apartment
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Speaker 1: says she had been drinking. She stumbled, so we know
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Speaker 1: she was there. He claims she left to go to
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Speaker 1: her own apartment. What happens after that? Nicole parton so
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Speaker 1: she goes back to the apartment of Corey Rossman. Corey
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Speaker 1: begins to mom it he's passing out his roommate. Mike
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Speaker 1: Beth helps Corey upstairs to his bedroom, comes back downstairs,
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Speaker 1: realizes that Lauren is really in bad shape. She's had
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Speaker 1: way too much to drink. His story is that he
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Speaker 1: tries to get her to spend the night there, knowing
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Speaker 1: that she's in no shape whatsoever to try to get home,
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Speaker 1: but she's insisting that she go home. She's wanting to
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Speaker 1: find her cell phone. She's very adamant about leaving, so
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Speaker 1: Mike Beth claims that he walks her next door to
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Speaker 1: the apartment of Jay Rosenbaum because Jay was a very
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Speaker 1: close friend of Laurence. Well, I mean, who's the boyfriend. Um,
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Speaker 1: he's not even here. He's not in the picture at
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Speaker 1: this point, but he's not there parting with her. I
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Speaker 1: don't have na right, Okay, go ahead. So he's not
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Speaker 1: with her at this point. He's knocketing the partying mix.
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Speaker 1: So Jay Rosenbaum tries to convince her to stay there
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Speaker 1: next door with him at his apartment because she is
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Speaker 1: in no condition to walk home again. She insists his
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Speaker 1: story is that you know, he wasn't going to hold
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Speaker 1: her against her will, and so she leaves and she's
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Speaker 1: going to walk to two and a half blocks home.
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Speaker 1: There's a claim that they that they saw her walk
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Speaker 1: to the end of the block. They could see her
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Speaker 1: from their balcony, that she made it to the block
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Speaker 1: to turn the corner, and then at that point they
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Speaker 1: don't see her. There's also a surveillance image of her
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Speaker 1: around four thirty am, right there at the corner, making
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Speaker 1: her two and a half block home. Time stories with
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. So Michael Siavolo, these pure family, private investigator.
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Speaker 1: We have images of her five at four thirty at
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Speaker 1: the intersection the cross street, where Jay Rosenbaum says he
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Speaker 1: sees her walked too. I don't believe that to be factual.
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Speaker 1: I've never seen any images of Lauren after she leaves
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Speaker 1: Jay Rosenbaum's house. The building across the street, which was
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Speaker 1: under construction at that time, directly across the street was
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Speaker 1: not yet completed. There were no surveillance cameras mounted outside.
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Speaker 1: Now today on this date, if you walk onto eleven Street,
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Speaker 1: you'll be on the surveillance cameras. There's got to be
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Speaker 1: more than a dozen of them, but on June third
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Speaker 1: of twenty eleven, there was not any surveillance cameras on
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Speaker 1: the crime College at eleventh. The only thing that we
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Speaker 1: have is Jay Rosenbaum claiming that he stood out on
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Speaker 1: his second floor balcony, which is a very narrow balcony,
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Speaker 1: and yelled to her, Lauren, let me text me when
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Speaker 1: you find your phone. And then he said he thinks,
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Speaker 1: because it is a distance away, he sees a second
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Speaker 1: person into sect come close to Lauren once she gets
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Speaker 1: to the corner. As far as Vidiant video surveillance footage
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Speaker 1: of that occurrence, to my knowledge, it does not exist. So,
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Speaker 1: Michael Sivello, the Surmillans video was earlier when she was
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Speaker 1: in the alley where we think she lost herself phone,
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Speaker 1: and she's not up on the corner when she left
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Speaker 1: the apartment, right, That is okay, all right, So we
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Speaker 1: have one Survilles video, but not what she had left
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Speaker 1: the apartment. Take a listen to our friend Patty and
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Speaker 1: Brown at Fox News. The friend of a missing Indiana
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Speaker 1: college student tells police he has memory loss from the
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Speaker 1: night she disappeared. La Spier was last seen June third,
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Speaker 1: after a night out with friends. Now, a new report
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Speaker 1: reveals two hours before she vanished, Spiro Or helped a
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Speaker 1: male friend to get home after he'd been in a scuffle,
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Speaker 1: and that friend now claims he was punched in the
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Speaker 1: face and has no memory of how the knight ended.
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Speaker 1: Corey Rossman, this person who she was walking back and
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Speaker 1: forth with, has hired a lawyer immediately, and the lawyer
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Speaker 1: says that when Corey and Lauren arrived at that building,
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Speaker 1: that there was that fight. Corey was punched in the face,
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Speaker 1: and the lawyer claims that now Corey has no memory
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Speaker 1: of anything else that happened that night. Fishy. You know,
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Speaker 1: we call that convenient amnesia in law enforcement. You know,
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Speaker 1: why is it? Here's my question, why did this guy
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Speaker 1: run out so quickly and lawyer up? Typically, as a
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Speaker 1: homicide investigator or any investigator, when a person runs out
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Speaker 1: quickly right after somebody is missing or harmed and get
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Speaker 1: an attorney, we always look at that person with some
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Speaker 1: air of suspicion because that's a little bit unusual. And
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Speaker 1: then why is it that he cannot remember something that
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Speaker 1: just happened days ago? You know, he's got a point too,
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Speaker 1: Unico parton what allisurely happened when he got punched in
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Speaker 1: the face. He was with Lauren. He was with Lauren.
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Speaker 1: They were again going to some friends apartment to continue
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Speaker 1: their party before guys approached Corey and Lauren, and one
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Speaker 1: of the gentlemen said to Lauren, Hey, are you okay?
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Speaker 1: You appear to be really drunk, and Corey says, look, dude,
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Speaker 1: I've got this. I'm taking care of her, and they
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Speaker 1: kind of got into a verbal altercation. Corey began to
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Speaker 1: curse the guy out, and the guy punched Corey in
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Speaker 1: the face. They stumbled out of the apartment building Corey
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Speaker 1: and Lauren, and it's after that incident that Corey says
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Speaker 1: he suffered from memory loss. Okay, she and Michael Siavolo,
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Speaker 1: this is very confusing fact scenario because they're going from
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Speaker 1: place to place partying that night during the NBA playoffs
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Speaker 1: and then with a group of people. What happens when
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Speaker 1: she leaves the bar with Corey. So when she leaves
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Speaker 1: the bar with Corey, they go back into smallwood of
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Speaker 1: the high rise residential building that she lived in, and
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Speaker 1: they they entered. They were up on the floor that
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Speaker 1: Lauren lived on, waiting for the elevator to go back
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Speaker 1: down when they when the elevator door opens, Zach Oakes,
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Speaker 1: accompanied by three other friends were getting off the elevator
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Speaker 1: and one of the boys lived on the same floor
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Speaker 1: knew Lauren from school and said, hey, you okay because
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Speaker 1: she was kind of leaning up against the wall and
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Speaker 1: she wasn't she wasn't intoxicated, And Corey Rossman said answered
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Speaker 1: for her and said no, no, she's fine, She's leaving
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Speaker 1: with me. It's okay. And the boys also said no,
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Speaker 1: she lives right down the wall. Take her back to
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Speaker 1: her apartment. And they gotten into a verbal alt and uh.
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Speaker 1: Corey Rossman dropped an F bomb and Zach Oakes is
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Speaker 1: a tough kid, UH from Indianapolis, and he punched Corey
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Speaker 1: in the face and Corey went down and the four
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Speaker 1: boys ran out of the building through a stairway because
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Speaker 1: they didn't want to get arrested for assault. With that,
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Speaker 1: Corey left Smallwood with Lauren h They were seen on
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Speaker 1: surveillance camera on Tenth Streets sitting on some steps, some
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Speaker 1: concrete steps of another apartment complex right across the street
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Speaker 1: from Smallwood. That's captured on camera and UH. And then
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Speaker 1: they proceed to walk up the alley where Lauren uh fell.
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Speaker 1: They attempted, and Corey carried her up some steps in
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Speaker 1: that food building, and they knocked on the door of
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Speaker 1: four girls that were at the pregame party with them
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Speaker 1: a few hours earlier, and all of those girls were
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Speaker 1: asleep and didn't answer the door. So we see on
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Speaker 1: Saveillan's video Corey carrying her down the stairway back into
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Speaker 1: the back alley to the area where she loses her
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Speaker 1: her wallet and ID and her keys, and he carries
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Speaker 1: her across a vacant lot which is strewn with broken
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Speaker 1: bricks and debris, and she's barefoot, so he carries her,
26:45
Speaker 1: you know, he drapes her arms across his shoulders, and
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Speaker 1: he carries her up to the apartment on Eleventh Street,
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Speaker 1: which she shares with Mike Beth. Mike Beth was home
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Speaker 1: after the pregame. He did not go out to kill
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Speaker 1: Roy's sports. His claim is he had a paper due
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Speaker 1: the next day and he needed to work all night
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Speaker 1: Lauren on the paper. So Corey walks in with Lauren.
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Speaker 1: She sits on the couch and Corey is very very drunk,
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Speaker 1: and he starts to get sick and Mike helps him
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Speaker 1: up the stairway it's a duplex, up to his room.
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Speaker 1: Corey vomits on the stairway, and then Mike helps him
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Speaker 1: into his bed. He goes back downstairs, and he wants
27:39
Speaker 1: to get rid of Lauren because he has to do
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Speaker 1: his school work, so he then brings Lauren next door
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Speaker 1: to Jay Rosenbaum's house. And Jay Rosenbaum had attended a
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Speaker 1: camp some time earlier with Lauren and knew her a
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Speaker 1: lot better than the other boys, and Rosenbaum did, claims
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Speaker 1: I've interviewed him on two separate occasions, claims he tried
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Speaker 1: to have Lauren sleep on the couch, but she preferred
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Speaker 1: to go home, so he let her go home, and
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Speaker 1: he went upstairs to the second floor of balcony, where
28:20
Speaker 1: he then claims he he yells out to her she's
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Speaker 1: walking down the street towards College Avenue, call me when
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Speaker 1: you find your phone, or text me when you find
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Speaker 1: your phone, and then he claims he sees in the
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Speaker 1: shadows a second figure intosect with Lauren, but he's not
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Speaker 1: quite certain if his mind is just he wants to
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Speaker 1: help so much that he sees this, or maybe it
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Speaker 1: really didn't happen, and that's as much substance as we
28:53
Speaker 1: have to this, and that's the least we see of
28:56
Speaker 1: Laurence Spirit. Michael standing from the balcony. Would he have
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Speaker 1: been able to see her at that spot? He claims
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Speaker 1: he saw her. Yes, Well, we do know what happened
29:08
Speaker 1: to her cell phone and keys. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: our cut ten Fox niece. Lauren Spirit's cell phone and
29:15
Speaker 1: keys were recovered shortly after she was reported missing in
29:18
Speaker 1: the same neighborhood she was last seen. So that image
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Speaker 1: from the earlier in this story of her on that
29:24
Speaker 1: security camera, that's the last known image. And family members
29:27
Speaker 1: at a news conference today say when they take a
29:29
Speaker 1: look at it, they seem much more. I think if
29:33
Speaker 1: you look closely at the content in this picture, you
29:37
Speaker 1: will see who Lauren is. She's a happy, smiling, beautiful
29:45
Speaker 1: young lady on her way out for the evening to
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Speaker 1: meet with friends. In Spira's father believed that she is
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Speaker 1: being held by a person or person's la Spirit has
29:58
Speaker 1: been missing out for twelve and a half days. Time
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Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace Michael Servelo. Where did Lauren's father
30:18
Speaker 1: get the idea that she was being held captive. Well,
30:21
Speaker 1: that was very very early on before we you know,
30:25
Speaker 1: that was twelve days into the investigation, and here we sit,
30:29
Speaker 1: you know, some almost ten and a half years later,
30:33
Speaker 1: we've learned a great deal through through interviews and investigation
30:40
Speaker 1: that yes, it is a possibility that is one of
30:44
Speaker 1: the scenarios, that's some random person snatched her off the street,
30:51
Speaker 1: but the others of very scenarios still have very much
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Speaker 1: in play. Jesse, Jesse Wolfe, is still not properly alified
31:01
Speaker 1: as to his exact whereabouts. Yes, at four or fifteen
31:07
Speaker 1: in the morning. I've interviewed a number of his fraternity
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Speaker 1: brothers and roommates. He was in a fraternity that was
31:17
Speaker 1: so rowdy they got thrown off campus. So they lived
31:20
Speaker 1: in a number of small off campus rental properties. Jesse
31:25
Speaker 1: lived with three other fellows, and he claims he was
31:32
Speaker 1: at another house down the block or a block or
31:35
Speaker 1: two away from his house, which was at ninth and
31:39
Speaker 1: Fess in Bloomington, watching the NBA playoffs, and then when
31:44
Speaker 1: he went home, he talked about it, and they had
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Speaker 1: a couple of beers with a roommate, and the roommate
31:53
Speaker 1: puts it at about two fifteen. The latest two thirty
31:57
Speaker 1: in the morning and Lauren goes missing that four fifteen.
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Speaker 1: So where was Jesse with one hundred percent degree of
32:05
Speaker 1: certainty between two thirty in the morning and four fourth fifteen,
32:11
Speaker 1: still a huge question mark. And Jesse, you know, he's
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Speaker 1: lawyered up. His father Alan Wolf runs interference for him
32:23
Speaker 1: when we attempted to further interview Jesse wolf So that scenario,
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Speaker 1: the jealous boyfriend finding out that Lauren is out with
32:36
Speaker 1: the Rosenbaum, Beth and Corey Rossman crew. He may have
32:43
Speaker 1: either walked up there or taken his vehicle up there,
32:47
Speaker 1: knowing where they live. It was only about four blocks
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Speaker 1: from where he lives, and he might have been staking
32:53
Speaker 1: it out. When Lauren turned the corner. He might have said,
32:56
Speaker 1: get in the car, we have to talk. You know,
33:00
Speaker 1: a scenario is still very much in play. He reported
33:05
Speaker 1: were missing. Michael Jesse Wolfe reported later that afternoon. Yes,
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Speaker 1: Friday afternoon, Jesse Wolfe went to the Bloomington police station
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Speaker 1: and reported are missing. Has Jay Rosenbaum the one who
33:19
Speaker 1: was with her, who last saw her, he says, Walking
33:23
Speaker 1: towards her apartment, he yells out, texting when you find
33:26
Speaker 1: your cell phone? Has he taken a polygraph, yes, pass
33:30
Speaker 1: if he has I you know what, law enforcement doesn't
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Speaker 1: tell us everything. I interviewed him in the presence of
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Speaker 1: his lawyer. His lawyer, a female lawyer from Indianapolis, was
33:49
Speaker 1: on the line when I interviewed him. About a year
33:52
Speaker 1: and a half to two years later, I traveled to
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Speaker 1: Michigan after he graduated, and I reinterviewed him in the
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Speaker 1: presence of his mother. I asked him during that second interview,
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Speaker 1: would you be willing at our expense to take a polygraph.
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Speaker 1: We'll travel back to Michigan to conduct with all polygraphists
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Speaker 1: to conduct the polygraph examination. Yes, Or if you would
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Speaker 1: like to come to New York, We'll pay all the expenses,
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Speaker 1: put you and your mom or your dad in a
34:29
Speaker 1: hotel in New York. Will pay for everything. And would
34:33
Speaker 1: you do that? He responded affirmatively, Yes, I'll take another
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Speaker 1: I'll take a polygraph. What about Jesse boyfriend? Nancy? Just
34:45
Speaker 1: let me finish on. Rosenbaum flew back to New York
34:49
Speaker 1: and the next day I got a call from Rosenbaum's
34:52
Speaker 1: father saying that they had a family discussion and they
34:56
Speaker 1: now declined to take a polygraph. Okay with respected Jesse Wolfe.
35:02
Speaker 1: I did not conduct a polygraph. I'm not certain. I'm
35:08
Speaker 1: not I know that he was questioned by the authorities
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Speaker 1: at length, the authorities being the Bloomington Police Department, right,
35:16
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he was questioned by the FBI
35:18
Speaker 1: as well. They are reluctant. We don't know if either
35:24
Speaker 1: of them have ever taken a polly. Guys, take a
35:27
Speaker 1: listen to the Bloomington Police Chief, Mike dish Off. This
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Speaker 1: is our cut twelve. Over the course of the last
35:34
Speaker 1: ten years, the Bloomington Police Department has received thousands of tips,
35:38
Speaker 1: interviewed hundreds of people, obtained a multitude of court orders,
35:41
Speaker 1: and executed innumerable search warrants in Bloomington and elsewhere. BBD
35:46
Speaker 1: has been assisted from the very beginning by multiple law
35:48
Speaker 1: enforcement agencies, and to this day continue to work most
35:51
Speaker 1: closely with the FBI. Many times we are asked if
35:55
Speaker 1: Lawrence case is listed as a cold case. The answer
35:58
Speaker 1: to that is an unequivocal noe. A cold case is
36:01
Speaker 1: one where no leads or information has come in and
36:03
Speaker 1: the case spile setstormant. That has never been the case
36:06
Speaker 1: regarding Lauren, and there has always been something to follow
36:09
Speaker 1: up on the last three to four years, for example,
36:12
Speaker 1: investigators have executed at least ten search warrants and received
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Speaker 1: approximately eight hundred tips. Of those steps, over one hundred
36:18
Speaker 1: of them required edititional follow up once they were that
36:21
Speaker 1: it was determined that they were not reports for information
36:23
Speaker 1: that are been reported previously. Overall, since twenty eleven, BPD
36:27
Speaker 1: has received nearly thirty six hundred tips, with approximately eleven
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Speaker 1: hundred of those determined to be actionable and assigned to
36:33
Speaker 1: additional follow up. You're hearing Bloomington Police Chief Mike Diekoff
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Speaker 1: speaking the tip line A one two three, three, nine,
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Speaker 1: four four seven seven eight one two three, three, nine, four,
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Speaker 1: four seven seven And with every day that passes, the
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Speaker 1: facts surrounding the disappearance of Lauren Spear will become more
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Speaker 1: murky fancy grace crime story. Signing off goodbye friend,