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How Many Eagles Assistants Will Kellen Moore Steal For New Orleans Saints Staff?? · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 2: How are you man?
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: That's I guess our game. We tie this out pretty well.
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  Speaker 1: Give me a reaction to like first thought, Kellen Moore
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  Speaker 1: taking the Saints job.
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  Speaker 3: First reaction, Yeah, I mean this is expected the Saints.
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  Speaker 3: We're holding out to get a chance to interview him,
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  Speaker 3: and by that point he was their top choice, and
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  Speaker 3: by last week it was a given that he was
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  Speaker 3: going there. So it's interesting for him to get in
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  Speaker 3: there be a head coach after three times as an
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  Speaker 3: off as the coordinator. It's his time just navigated, just
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  Speaker 3: an excellent offense and really a different way of doing
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  Speaker 3: it in his career. Obviously, the talent pool will be different.
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  Speaker 3: There's a different expectation for this team immediately, but Kellen
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  Speaker 3: Moore's earned the opportunity. It'll be interesting to see.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us about I mean one year there, but tell
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  Speaker 1: us about Kellen Moore, Like if someone asked you to
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  Speaker 1: describe him personally professionally, what do you say.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's not going to hit a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of decibels when he talks, But that doesn't mean he's quiet.
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  Speaker 3: You know, during the times that we've got a chance
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  Speaker 3: to interact with. You know, he's not someone in weeks
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  Speaker 3: to weeks that will delve deeply into this scheme, but
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  Speaker 3: you can tell that he understands it. But behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 3: when you get a chance to hear about him from
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  Speaker 3: players whenever they played the Cowboys for the first time.
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  Speaker 3: I did a deeper story talking to pretty much every
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  Speaker 3: assistant coach who had either coached him with the Cowboys
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  Speaker 3: or coach with him with the Cowboys. And the thing
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  Speaker 3: that I was really trying to figure out it kind
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  Speaker 3: of helps towards understanding.
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  Speaker 2: With the head coach, is well, what kind of coach
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  Speaker 2: is he? How does he motivate? How does he connect
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  Speaker 2: with players?
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  Speaker 3: And the thing that kept coming out was he's not
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  Speaker 3: the guy that's going to stand in the middle of
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  Speaker 3: give a big speech. How he connects to a players
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  Speaker 3: going up to him and saying, Hey, what do you
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  Speaker 3: want to run?
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  Speaker 2: Like? What do you like?
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  Speaker 3: What works for you? And by getting them invested in
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  Speaker 3: the play and what's happening on the field, gets them
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  Speaker 3: excited to be a part of it. That stemmed back
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  Speaker 3: to his Boys of State days, you know, drawing up
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  Speaker 3: trick players and the like, just having fun playing football,
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  Speaker 3: and that showed in the way that they played throughout
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  Speaker 3: this year. I mean, they ran the ball more than
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  Speaker 3: any Eagles team has since nineteen seventy eight, and that's
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  Speaker 3: only because the meeting was Weekly eighteen game, they chucked
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  Speaker 3: the ball else a been nineteen fifty one. That is
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  Speaker 3: definitely not Kellen Moore, And it made moot any study
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  Speaker 3: I did in the offseason what he did with the Cowboys,
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  Speaker 3: but they didn't have to Saquon Barkley or this offensive
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  Speaker 3: line or you know, by week four, this was a
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  Speaker 3: team still trying to figure us out self out offensively
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  Speaker 3: and then again more.
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  Speaker 2: Someone who goes to his players and listens.
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  Speaker 3: This wasn't just happening into rec relations to Kellen Moore's
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  Speaker 3: happening as a whole coaching staff. But guys like Lane
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  Speaker 3: Johnson the right tackle, and Landon Dickers and the left
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  Speaker 3: guard were speaking, I'm why are we not handing the
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  Speaker 3: ball to Saquon as much why are we not running
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  Speaker 3: the ball? We need to run the ball. And coming
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  Speaker 3: out of that bye Weekday leaned really heavily into it,
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of that had to do with what
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  Speaker 3: Moore was able to do throughout that time and finding
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  Speaker 3: spots where Barkley fit and then where the passing game fit.
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  Speaker 2: It was different week.
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  Speaker 3: To week, so you know, that's the main gist of
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  Speaker 3: what Moore showed throughout the year and his growth as
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  Speaker 3: a coach, and I think, really, why Aaron's a head
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  Speaker 3: coach opportunity at this point?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Brooks Scabina is our guess. It's funny when you
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  Speaker 1: look back at how the seat and started for the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles of two and two, and I mean Siriani's john
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  Speaker 1: with fans, and you think about how it ends. That
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  Speaker 1: feels like a completely different reality. But how much of
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  Speaker 1: that about face do you credit with Kellen Moore?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how much I'd percent. I'd put
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  Speaker 2: it oppositely. It was not an easy position to jump into.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, from the collapse of twenty twenty three, coming
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  Speaker 3: in and Nick Sirianni, who had just been to the
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl beforehand. You know, there was a quote he
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  Speaker 3: said immediately after that first Super Bowl loss, and it
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  Speaker 3: was promoted Brian Johnson then basically said, we're doing everything
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  Speaker 3: the same. This offense is going to be the same.
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  Speaker 3: It's what got us to the Super Bowl. The way
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  Speaker 3: we run z own reads, they're going to be the same.
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  Speaker 3: The way we do our passing is going to be
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  Speaker 3: the same. Just because we just because they lost Shanstike
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  Speaker 3: into the pults wouldn't mean that their offense was going
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  Speaker 3: to look any different. Well, by the end of the season,
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  Speaker 3: defenses had figured them out. The San Francisco Final forty
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  Speaker 3: nine ers thrashed them, and you know, BOTHA came out
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  Speaker 3: and said, we've got the we've got the playbook. We
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  Speaker 3: put out the blueprint for everyone else, and they they
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  Speaker 3: leaned into it. So and Nick Sirianni was humbled a
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  Speaker 3: bit by that and also still felt very certain that
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  Speaker 3: he knew what he was doing offensively. There were a
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  Speaker 3: lot of things that they did well. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator that came in was going to have
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  Speaker 3: to deal with a collaboration setting this. It was not
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  Speaker 3: going to be somebody who needed to be a hothead
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  Speaker 3: and you know step stepped their foot down and have
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  Speaker 3: a lot of ego. That was gonna that kind of
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  Speaker 3: clash was not going to work. And Kellen Moore, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he he doesn't like give in. I'm not saying he
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  Speaker 3: like falls into it, but he knows how to work
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  Speaker 3: with people and collaborate and come up with different ideas
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  Speaker 3: even than he'd done. So that whole off season that
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  Speaker 3: you know, I was talking to Kevin Patula, the passing
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  Speaker 3: game coordinator, about Kellen and Uh, basically they were like
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  Speaker 3: it was like a month or two of a coaching clinic.
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  Speaker 3: They just sat there and said, here's what I've learned.
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  Speaker 3: What do you know? What do you think? And that
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  Speaker 3: was before they even got Saquon Barkley and then they
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  Speaker 3: added him to the equation and they said, well can
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  Speaker 3: we do I remember talking Nick Sirianni about that and
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  Speaker 3: he's like, well, I remember we were checking through all
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  Speaker 3: the things that we we were talking about and you're like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, what can they work here?
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  Speaker 2: What can work here?
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  Speaker 3: Really not there's not much Sakemon Parkley can't do, so
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  Speaker 3: really opening up the playbook at that point it took
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  Speaker 3: a certain kind of person to do that.
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  Speaker 2: And three years ago, uh.
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  Speaker 3: Before they hired Nick Sirianni, Kellen Moore actually interviewed for
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  Speaker 3: the head coaching position, and Jeffrey Louis remembered that the
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  Speaker 3: other day as we were talking to him, he said,
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  Speaker 3: I mean just an incredibly nice guy. Knew that about
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  Speaker 3: him and and lamented, you know, the night before he
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  Speaker 3: left the Saints. She was like, yeah, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: be losing him, but it's a you know, a great
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  Speaker 3: coach at a great time, so everybody felt that way
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  Speaker 3: about him. So, you know, going into the Saint situation
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  Speaker 3: where there's going to be some tough things to happen,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a patient person who's going.
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  Speaker 2: To be able to work through all that.
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  Speaker 3: Those are things that are part of his personality that
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  Speaker 3: really fit well for the situation.
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  Speaker 1: I think Brooks you mentioned Kevin Batulo, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: that's one of the names we've heard that could be
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  Speaker 1: joining Kellen Moore in New Orleans. You've heard Doug nus
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  Speaker 1: Meyer as well. Any scuttle from your side of the
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  Speaker 1: equation assistants who tell themore might be interested in bringing
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  Speaker 1: to New Orleans.
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  Speaker 2: I think he'll only get two.
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  Speaker 3: I think he'll get Doug nust Meyer to come with
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  Speaker 3: him and then also Can Valeria. Those are the two
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  Speaker 3: that he brought with them from the Chargers. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: I've talked to Nick Sirianni about this sometimes and he
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  Speaker 3: said it.
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  Speaker 2: On the record too. Like you know he does.
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  Speaker 3: He is very encouraging for all of his coaches to
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  Speaker 3: go get head coaching jobs, but once they do, you're
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  Speaker 3: not taking any of my guys. He locks down his staff.
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  Speaker 3: That's something that he carried over from working with Frank Wright,
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  Speaker 3: Frank Wrhch had the same deal support go get your job,
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  Speaker 3: but these are my guys, this is this is, that's
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  Speaker 3: what we've had. So I don't think he's going to
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  Speaker 3: get anybody that was a part of the staff before
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  Speaker 3: he got there. I think I think dus Meyer has
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  Speaker 3: been his guy, and I think Sirianna will realize that.
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  Speaker 3: And Kevin Patulo has been Sirianni's guy back to the
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  Speaker 3: Colts to days together.
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  Speaker 2: Even before that.
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  Speaker 3: So Kevin Padulo, I think he's going to be in
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  Speaker 3: line to be the offensive coinator. That brings up a
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  Speaker 3: whold another conversation, But that would mean there's two other
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  Speaker 3: positions left on the offensive staff or Sirianya to Phil,
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  Speaker 3: I think for in terms of what the Saints are
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  Speaker 3: concerned about, Kellen more than you know, working in the
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  Speaker 3: business for a decade now, three different places, three different teams.
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  Speaker 3: Just because he's not taking more than two guys off
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  Speaker 3: the Eagle staff does not mean he doesn't have a
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  Speaker 3: major roll index that he can go call up people.
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  Speaker 3: And again, this is not going to be the same
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  Speaker 3: offensive system he runs, so it's not like they're going
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  Speaker 3: to go and you know, run the ball a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of times, or maybe they do or different ways. So
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  Speaker 3: the system that they'll run, he'll be thinking about that
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  Speaker 3: as he dives into all the contacts that he's built
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  Speaker 3: over the past decade.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't get to take Saquan or aj Brown or
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  Speaker 1: DeVante Smith and those guys, does I mean that would
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  Speaker 1: probably help.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's in the contract, but that.
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  Speaker 1: But that is a big part of it, though. Brooks like,
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  Speaker 1: how much of the success that like, this is the balance, right?
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  Speaker 1: How much of the success that the Eagles had this
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  Speaker 1: year was Kellen Moore? How much of it was Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, look at all the talent balance that scale
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  Speaker 1: for me?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's it's tough. It's tough to separate it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Seclon Barkley is obviously the greatest running back
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  Speaker 3: Eagles have ever had. So what you wonder about when
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  Speaker 3: you look at you try to piece it apart, is like, okay, well,
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  Speaker 3: what happens whenever this gets taken away? Barkley did not
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  Speaker 3: have a big game against the Chiefs. They decided they
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  Speaker 3: were going to take him out of the game, and
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  Speaker 3: I was expecting it that to happen. What would happen
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  Speaker 3: with Jalen Hurts. Is he going to be a dual threat?
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  Speaker 3: Runners are They're going to try to get him going
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  Speaker 3: in this unree Even whenever Barkley was taken away, I
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  Speaker 3: saw things that Kellen Moore had not done all year,
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  Speaker 3: running full back packages and trying to get Barkley in
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  Speaker 3: the flat. Those were gaining like four or five yard chunks.
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  Speaker 3: But that was things Just get the ball to Barkley
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  Speaker 3: in space. That's Kellen Moore. When I see that, you
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  Speaker 3: look at the game like the Cleveland Browns in Week
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  Speaker 3: six when they were still trying to figure things out offensively.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that was another game that seqwe Barkley is
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  Speaker 3: not doing very well, but.
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  Speaker 2: What did work well?
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  Speaker 3: They were playing a lot of man covers, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of matching on that and whenever you see a major
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  Speaker 3: play Devontae smiss on a mesh route basically a picker
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  Speaker 3: out in the open field. There he goes for a
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  Speaker 3: forty five yard touchdown. The consequence score that wins in
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  Speaker 3: the game. That's Kellen Moore.
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  Speaker 2: So like it's it's a clicheing here.
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  Speaker 3: Coaches say, well, you just you know, players make plays
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  Speaker 3: and you got to fit the scheme to the players.
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  Speaker 3: But that's you know, those examples are where that becomes reality.
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  Speaker 3: And yes, they have an incredibly great roster. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking back to the times we talked about LSU
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  Speaker 3: when Joe Brady was there and all the first round
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  Speaker 3: picks that came out of that team. Well what do
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  Speaker 3: you do after that? So you know it's always going
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  Speaker 3: to be different. I don't expect him to have obviously
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  Speaker 3: super Bowl success in the first season with more, but
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  Speaker 3: you've seen him make multiple different things happen with the
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  Speaker 3: guys he's got, and you know this is a team
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  Speaker 3: that's going to have assets, maybe not this year, but
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  Speaker 3: in the future years.
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  Speaker 2: And you know it's not going to be a one
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think it will be a one.
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  Speaker 3: Unpressing situation with Kilim or not with this kind of expectation,
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  Speaker 3: but I think you've seen a lot of creativity from him.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't like that he's Brooks Kabbina covering the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: now for the Athletic you'll get him on X at
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  Speaker 1: the Kabina of course, formerly of the Advocate. We got
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  Speaker 1: known during his time in Baton Rouge. Following there on Twitter,
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  Speaker 1: hey man, great to chat. Sorry I missed you in
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  Speaker 1: in Nola last week man, but glad you're doing well
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  Speaker 1: and we appreciate a couple of minutes today.
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  Speaker 2: Nice send goes anytime