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"Healing Farms" (Saturday, April 18, 2026, Hour 3) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 1: He only as.
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Speaker 7: Joe, And thank you for letting me be of service
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Speaker 7: to you this morning. We all have stuff going on,
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Speaker 7: and it's it is a commonplace thing to deal with
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Speaker 7: people who are having issues with what's going on in
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Speaker 7: their world by invoking our own personal position on it.
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Speaker 7: And there was a lot of case studies going back
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Speaker 7: into how the baby Boomers got the way they were
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Speaker 7: because the soldiers that came back from World War Two
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Speaker 7: having seen horrors that no human beings should ever have,
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Speaker 7: and not so much in the way of help dealing
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Speaker 7: with them. Often we're left, when confronted with the teenagers
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Speaker 7: told to shut up and get out of my face,
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Speaker 7: and were left to sort of figure it out themselves.
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Speaker 7: Thus they became the baby boomers, they're like, well, I
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Speaker 7: guess I can do this stuff. Nobody says I can't.
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Speaker 7: Nobody says it's gonna hurt me or anything like that.
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Speaker 7: So let's see if we can't get you know, free
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Speaker 7: you know, we don't get there because we don't talk
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Speaker 7: and we don't and we we act like there is
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Speaker 7: no right answer. By the way, if you're joining us
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Speaker 7: in progress, we were talking about this interaction with Congressman
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Speaker 7: Woman Sewel from Alabama and Robert F. Kennedy Junior over
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Speaker 7: a reparenting comment he made. The discussion actually begins with
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Speaker 7: something called healing farms, which was a suggestion that rfk
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Speaker 7: Junior had regarding kids, instead of being put on these
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Speaker 7: antidepressants because of your mental health issues, that they be
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Speaker 7: taken somewhere where they can get away from the things
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Speaker 7: that are causing them the pain.
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Speaker 8: Medical degree and you have no formal medical training.
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Speaker 7: A file.
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Speaker 6: Of the twenty six secretaries.
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Speaker 7: My time, it's my time too, and we're going to
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Speaker 7: get into our first things here so that we can
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Speaker 7: discuss all of that. But as an abstract, we've also
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Speaker 7: been into that story over the issue of mental health,
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Speaker 7: which it's longer and deeper, but some of it comes
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Speaker 7: back into radio because I've been told that radio shows
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Speaker 7: need to have segments dedicated to psychiatrists talking to listeners
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Speaker 7: to get them past the depression over I don't know.
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Speaker 7: Supporting Trump, we satirize it for your protection. And some
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Speaker 7: will say you're not taking some of this stuff seriously enough,
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Speaker 7: and I'm like, yeah, do you know a lot of
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Speaker 7: elected officials that should be taken as seriously as they
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Speaker 7: would like to be taken. I don't so further in
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Speaker 7: our first things this morning, Iran circled and turned around
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Speaker 7: on its statement that it was going to open the
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Speaker 7: Strait of Hormuz early this morning, saying no control of
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Speaker 7: the Strait of Hormoz has returned to its previous state
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Speaker 7: under strict management and control of the Iranian armed forces.
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Speaker 7: They made the announcement after yesterday afternoon. Much was being
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Speaker 7: made that the strait was going to reopen, including a
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Speaker 7: prodigious drop in crude oil prices. Donald Trump told Asia
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Speaker 7: Free Press before this switch in position that he felt
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Speaker 7: a peace deal was very close. Meanwhile, took to social
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Speaker 7: media to say quote, Israel will not be bombing Lebanon
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Speaker 7: any longer they are prohibited from doing so by the USA.
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Speaker 7: Enough is enough, they renewed. The administration renewed a waiver
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Speaker 7: on countries buying sanctioned Russian oil as a deadline had
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Speaker 7: run out. But there is oil in boats on their
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Speaker 7: way places, so I guess the waiver is on ships
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Speaker 7: that have already been loaded with Russian oil. President Trump
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Speaker 7: said Friday that his administration has reviewed UFO related material
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Speaker 7: uncovered a number of interesting documents that he said will
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Speaker 7: be released soon. Delse Rodriguez, acting President of Venezuela, said,
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Speaker 7: I would like to thank President Trump, the Secretary of State,
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Speaker 7: and the secretaries who have been involved in this entire
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Speaker 7: process for their willingness to pursue diplomatic, economic, and cooperative
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Speaker 7: relations with Venezuela. CBS News went nasked Clarence Thomas and
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Speaker 7: Samuel Alito from the US Supreme Court if they're planning
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Speaker 7: I don't even think Elton John remembers he did this song.
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Speaker 7: But this was the root of this whole testimony was
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Speaker 7: are having these issues rather than just slapping them full
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Speaker 7: like so. The issue was Robert F. Kennedy Junior in
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Speaker 7: twenty twenty four, in a discussion about mental health, especially
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Speaker 7: as it impacts the black community and violence, brought up
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Speaker 7: some statistical truisms that the esteemed senator congresswoman from Alabama
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Speaker 7: laughed out, which is, you know, the amount of black
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Speaker 7: kids that are on prescription antidepressants and mood altering substances
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Speaker 7: beyond the illicit stuff that you find, and that you know,
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Speaker 7: maybe they would benefit from getting out of these situations
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Speaker 7: where crime and abandonment are a big issue. And so
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Speaker 7: the the discussion was that there was going he called
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Speaker 7: them healing farms, if you will, and immediately there was
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Speaker 7: a freak out when it happened, Oh my gosh. And
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Speaker 7: part of it wasn't so largely covered because it was
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Speaker 7: twenty twenty four and he was an outlier for the
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Speaker 7: Democratic nomination for president. It wasn't Donald Trump's HHS secretary.
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Speaker 7: And now you know, they've they've dragged up this comment
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Speaker 7: that was made on a pod to what was it,
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Speaker 7: nineteen Keys, the nineteen Keys podcast where he made this
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Speaker 7: comment about healing farms. But you know, is is it
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Speaker 7: a wrong thing to say because he's HHS secretary? Now?
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Speaker 7: Does it not make it an interesting question? Can you
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Speaker 7: get out of a place where pain and suffering is?
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Speaker 7: How many kids have gone through the foster care situations
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Speaker 7: of good or bad to find a great home? How
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Speaker 7: many happened? How many you know instances where kids have
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Speaker 7: gone quote into the system only to come out worse
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Speaker 7: than they were. We were talking about this earlier in
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Speaker 7: the week, the whole Parkland shooting situation with Nelson, with
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Speaker 7: the Nicholas Cruz. Nelson Cruise is a baseball player. Let's
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Speaker 7: not mix them up with Nicholas Cruz who had been
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Speaker 7: in custody of law enforcement multiple times, only to be
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Speaker 7: released because the President looking to gin up some good
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Speaker 7: looking statistics. Wanted schools to no longer refer these kind
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Speaker 7: of issues to law enforcement because he wanted to be
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Speaker 7: able to go on TV and say that his administration
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Speaker 7: had successfully fought and diminished the school to prison pipeline.
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Speaker 7: So kids like Nicholas Cruz, while exposing themselves repeatedly as
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Speaker 7: anti social and in violent in many ways, got no
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Speaker 7: assistance that they could have maybe benefited from. We don't know.
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Speaker 7: And then how many kids are dead and were left
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Speaker 7: with the punk kid who tried to take over the
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Speaker 7: DNC on top of it, who wasn't there but has
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Speaker 7: certainly made a good career. I'm not giving him any run. No,
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Speaker 7: he's tangential to this thing, But how much of that
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Speaker 7: could have been avoided if somebody had interceded? But because
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Speaker 7: we were told, we wanted to cook the books and
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Speaker 7: make it statistically look like we had done something. It's
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Speaker 7: the same thing we did with no child left behind.
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Speaker 7: Let's let's lower the test scores for graduation so more
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Speaker 7: kids graduate, and well meaning, though they may have been
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Speaker 7: thinking kids in the poor communities, inner city communities didn't
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Speaker 7: see any upside in getting a high school diploma. That's
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Speaker 7: not a new thing. That's not something that happened since
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Speaker 7: the millennia began, but politicians wanted to do something about
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Speaker 7: it statistically, so they said, maybe if we lower the standards,
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Speaker 7: more people will pass, and then they'll find more value
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Speaker 7: in getting a high school diploma. Seemed to pass awkwards,
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Speaker 7: but that's what they did. So RFK Junior is being asked,
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Speaker 7: you know what would you do with these kids who
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Speaker 7: are you know, getting you know, prescribed and then they're
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Speaker 7: on these drugs and the drugs kind of exacerbate violent feelings.
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Speaker 7: And he said, well, you know what about healing camps
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Speaker 7: and places to get away from it all? And that's
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Speaker 7: what the congresswoman is bringing up because his statement was
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Speaker 7: something along the lines of you go there and you
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Speaker 7: can kind of get reparented while you know, that's the
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Speaker 7: phrase that pays medical.
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Speaker 5: Degree and you have no formal medical training.
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Speaker 6: As twenty of the twenty six secretaries.
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Speaker 7: My time, you've never parented a black child is and
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Speaker 7: I find that can Congresswoman Sue will be confronted for
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Speaker 7: making one of the more racist statements I've heard on
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Speaker 7: the floor of the US House of Representatives in my lifetime.
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Speaker 7: Are black children different than white children. Are you saying
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Speaker 7: they are, because last time I heard somebody say something
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Speaker 7: like that, everyone was screaming that you're calling them racist.
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Speaker 7: Mental health is a lot of things. There are chemical imbalances,
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Speaker 7: without question, but there are also social imbalances. We mentioned
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Speaker 7: the baby boomers who grew up in a lot of
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Speaker 7: cases not getting answers from parents who had seen horrors
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Speaker 7: during war. So therefore they thought the kids struggles with
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Speaker 7: some of the normal societal stuff was trivial, and they
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Speaker 7: were told it was trivial. Well, the kids, to the kids,
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Speaker 7: it wasn't trivial, and a lot of kids had, you know,
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Speaker 7: bad reactions to it. And then you know, the Hollywood
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Speaker 7: and the entertainment world decides to play off on that too.
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Speaker 7: The kids are looking for answers, kids don't know the answers.
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Speaker 7: And if parents and we economically drive an economy into
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Speaker 7: a ditch where fifty percent of our population is working
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Speaker 7: at an income level that's barely scraping by, we're approaching
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Speaker 7: thirty five percent of our population working and living, what
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Speaker 7: do they call it?
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Speaker 17: Now?
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Speaker 7: They've come up with an acronym for ALICE, asset limited
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Speaker 7: income constrained employed ALICE you've heard that expression before. Sometimes
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Speaker 7: they don't explain what it means asset limited, income constrained.
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Speaker 7: And I hate that phrase because your income constraint isn't
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Speaker 7: someone else's doing. It's just the same kind of Orwellian
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Speaker 7: doublespeak as unhoused, as if it was somebody else's job
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Speaker 7: to house you. But we've created this economic diaspora where
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Speaker 7: a lot of parents are working two or three or
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Speaker 7: four jobs and don't have a ton of time for
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Speaker 7: their kids when they need answers. So there are a
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Speaker 7: million moving parts in dealing with this, and Kennedy was
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Speaker 7: just talking about one side of it, and not an
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Speaker 7: By the way, the most racist thing I've heard a
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Speaker 7: to it. How is that different than what RFK Junior
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Speaker 22: Yes, and yes, Joe again, you plan a garden with
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35:11
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Speaker 7: Well here's the point. Let me pick on what you
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35:41
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35:45
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35:49
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35:52
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35:55
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Speaker 22: I agree. And that honestly throwing drugs before again before
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Speaker 7: Strange, before we went to break, Kareem was bringing a
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44:32
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44:37
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Speaker 7: I don't I think the most important thing in a
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45:19
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45:24
Speaker 7: I mean, if you read Aldus Huxley's Brave New World,
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45:32
Speaker 7: the problem. But you know, Kareem, you brought up the
45:35
Speaker 7: issue of gender dysphoria and that that aspect of it,
45:41
Speaker 7: because the pain that they're suffering doesn't go away. That's
45:45
Speaker 7: that's the thing about the the you know, you've opened
45:47
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45:51
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45:57
Speaker 7: dealing with a pain. And you know, gender dysphoria is
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46:06
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Speaker 7: dealt with rather than just covered up. And what they're
46:17
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46:21
Speaker 7: acts rather than deal with the psychological act of you know,
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Speaker 7: change oneself. Because what we found, whether they transition back
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Speaker 7: or not, is these kids still have that pain and
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Speaker 7: it becomes ardently worse once they've committed this physical act
46:43
Speaker 7: against themselves and then they realize the pain that they
46:46
Speaker 7: were feeling didn't go away.
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Speaker 22: Agree, and coming back to your originals and tying these
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Speaker 22: two loose endpoints together was what you said. Again, it's
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Speaker 22: a rich garden that you're painting. We can look back,
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Speaker 22: let's say years ago. It's a person out of years. Anyway,
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Speaker 22: we have Mickey Ernie boys Town being Crosby. But yeah,
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Speaker 22: it was in Crossy, wasn't it that whole thing? You
47:13
Speaker 22: didn't see a single black face there. This isn't a
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Speaker 22: black or white issue. This is an opportunity issue, that's
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Speaker 22: my understanding. And if you have all those people who
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Speaker 22: don't have those opportunities, how easily is it for them
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Speaker 22: to go to a gang where they do have that structure,
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Speaker 22: that discipline, and that growth potential. And then so we
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Speaker 22: have so these camps that he is talking about, Hershey's
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Speaker 22: in Pennsylvania. I harken back to Clinton when she says
47:39
Speaker 22: it takes a village.
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Speaker 7: I have not read the book, but because the gang
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Speaker 7: leaders replace the father and and this goes back to
47:49
Speaker 7: doctor Curry Myers wrote a book. He's a former sheriff
47:53
Speaker 7: now a psychiatrist and a child child psychologist as well,
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Speaker 7: uh and criminologist. His website I think is called America's criminologist.
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Speaker 7: But is Curry c you R R i E. Doctor
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Speaker 7: Curry Myers been on this program, wrote a book called
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Speaker 7: The Rise of Feral Man. And what winds up happening
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Speaker 7: is we have these kids growing up with no you know,
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Speaker 7: answers being provided to them, and they're inserting their own
48:21
Speaker 7: answers as as somebody will. They're like, well, somebody's got
48:25
Speaker 7: to tell me what's right and wrong. And they wind
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Speaker 7: up falling prey to these alpha males who are running
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Speaker 7: these drug gangs, and that's how they wind up getting
48:34
Speaker 7: caught up into the world. And the same thing happens
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Speaker 7: with sex trafficking and all the other human you know,
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Speaker 7: diseases that we have, societal diseases that we have.
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Speaker 22: Joe, I think you play field.
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Speaker 7: I have a great day, and thank you, no, not
48:52
Speaker 7: at all, thank you for making it. That's the you.
48:54
Speaker 7: You did the hard work. I appreciate it. Kareem, you
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Speaker 7: have a great morning. Four three for eighty two four
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Speaker 7: two one seven and a few minutes we get left
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Speaker 7: here on this Saturday morning for real, this email back
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Speaker 7: to the strait of horror mooz for a moment and
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Speaker 7: picking up on the other on our other story today,
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Speaker 7: President Trump and his statements to the turning point USA crowd.
49:20
Speaker 5: I'm the peacemaker. I'm the one that settled eight wars.
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Speaker 7: I settled a war that.
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Speaker 1: Would have killed thirty to fifty million people India Pakistan.
49:32
Speaker 7: You have to sometimes get involved. We are the inheritors
49:35
Speaker 7: of the most.
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Speaker 1: Incredible civilization that has ever existed, and our task is.
49:42
Speaker 7: To defend it. We have to defend it, so Charles
49:45
Speaker 7: writes in straight Jacket. I guess, tying the themes together,
49:50
Speaker 7: perhaps Trump should rename the Strait of Hormuz the Strait
49:54
Speaker 7: of America, and then proceed to make everything between the
49:58
Speaker 7: Gulf of America and the Strait of America great again,
50:01
Speaker 7: giving us the mega slogan and meme make everything great again.
50:06
Speaker 7: Trelso is like doctor Clark says, make Earth great again,
50:11
Speaker 7: because what really you're seeing is the rising tide lifts
50:16
Speaker 7: all ships. If there's prosperity, if there's trade, if I
50:21
Speaker 7: can sell something to someone else that I do and
50:25
Speaker 7: they compensate me for it, that's a good thing. It's
50:29
Speaker 7: not a bad thing. It's not abusive. It can become abusive,
50:36
Speaker 7: like all things, it can go too far in one
50:40
Speaker 7: way or another, and our best way to regulate our
50:44
Speaker 7: lives is amongst ourselves. We are self regulating if we
50:49
Speaker 7: can be self regulating. But again, like the senator, the
50:56
Speaker 7: esteemed senator from Pennsylvania said, this is a war that's
51:02
Speaker 7: been going on forty eight years. I would argue, and
51:05
Speaker 7: we did earlier this week on the thirteenth, we were
51:14
Speaker 7: covering Thomas Jefferson's birthday, which is April thirteenth, and pointed
51:19
Speaker 7: out that in seventeen eighty six, two hundred and forty
51:23
Speaker 7: years ago, the most pacifist president of our founders. There
51:32
Speaker 7: are chapters written about George Washington's grudging appreciation of Jefferson.
51:39
Speaker 7: I won't call it disdain because he made him his
51:41
Speaker 7: secretary of state. Some say Washington made Jefferson secretary of
51:45
Speaker 7: State to get him out of the country. You can determine,
51:51
Speaker 7: but there are volumes written about George Washington's disdain. If
51:57
Speaker 7: you will, of Thomas Jefferson's view on peace and international affairs,
52:08
Speaker 7: you would have been much more of a guy in
52:10
Speaker 7: favor of, you know, NATO and that kind of stuff
52:13
Speaker 7: than Washington was. Certainly by his by his machinations. But
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Speaker 7: Jefferson road seventeen eighty six. Yeah, I know we got
52:27
Speaker 7: to get out of here. I've got to help my
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Speaker 7: sister in law get there, or the sweet sixteen party
52:32
Speaker 7: going here. But the point was that Jefferson in seventeen
52:35
Speaker 7: eighty six said we probably have to deal with this
52:39
Speaker 7: with a war. And you know Trump's ending it. Time
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Speaker 7: to go. I'm Joe until next weekend. So long and
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Speaker 7: thanks for all the fish.
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