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- 0:17Speaker 1: Yes, it indeed is that time. It's time for three
- 0:19Speaker 1: guys before the game. Welcome in everyone. This is episode
- 0:23Speaker 1: number six hundred and thirty two. Great to be back
- 0:26Speaker 1: with you. We've taken a week off. We're jumping back
- 0:29Speaker 1: in title Portal opens Nil Cranking, rosters reloading. We're gonna
- 0:39Speaker 1: get into all of that. Hoppy has gone to the
- 0:43Speaker 1: NIL Institute of Higher Learning to get a better breakdown
- 0:47Speaker 1: of what it all means, and he will have a
- 0:49Speaker 1: report for the class coming up here. You guys brought
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- 2:01Speaker 2: They just had their World.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Champions Yeah they did. Oh yeah, this was a big
- 2:05Speaker 1: week for them. April fifteenth has come and gone. All
- 2:08Speaker 1: the other CPAs they get all nervous, they get all jumpy,
- 2:12Speaker 1: They get all guys that kind of go like suck,
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- 2:23Speaker 2: Now let's work on your quarterly taxi.
- 2:25Speaker 1: I got your K one right here.
- 2:27Speaker 3: Was told they knocked down some shots here this week.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Yeah, they did. They They lined up, just made shots,
- 2:34Speaker 1: mad shots. Mike over there at Conley, they just make shots.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Mike said, give me the ball.
- 2:38Speaker 1: Yeah, we should call Mike and just ask them, like,
- 2:41Speaker 1: did anyone run in on the fourteenth of April? And
- 2:43Speaker 1: you know they yes, they do that.
- 2:46Speaker 2: Sure, here's here's what happens too. Said, folks run in
- 2:50Speaker 2: and go, I need an extension, and the answer is
- 2:54Speaker 2: we can give an extension, but you know it's just
- 2:56Speaker 2: an extension to file.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Not to pay, not to pay. You need your money now, Yeah,
- 3:01Speaker 1: because the.
- 3:01Speaker 2: Federal government says, where my money man? Make me look
- 3:05Speaker 2: like a fool.
- 3:07Speaker 1: I read a thing. I don't know where it was.
- 3:10Speaker 1: They said, with all these like job cuts and everything
- 3:12Speaker 1: in the federal government, they say, your chances of getting
- 3:15Speaker 1: audited now like it's been pretty much decreased, like it
- 3:19Speaker 1: didn't open highway.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Do you want to roll the dice on that? Do
- 3:22Speaker 2: you think?
- 3:23Speaker 3: Do you think now the way this show has opened,
- 3:25Speaker 3: we will skyrocket to number one on accounting podcasts.
- 3:28Speaker 1: For the month. Well, yeah, I think so.
- 3:31Speaker 2: Probably goes number one on accounting podcast probably.
- 3:33Speaker 1: Yeah. We should probably tag that as one of our keywords.
- 3:36Speaker 1: Coming up on our program, we will go back to front.
- 3:40Speaker 1: We'll go textual healing. Got some pretty good stuff. We
- 3:43Speaker 1: had a package sent to us from a listener, multiple packages,
- 3:48Speaker 1: two extremely large, too extremely heavy packages. We'll show you
- 3:54Speaker 1: what was inside the boxes coming up later on in
- 3:58Speaker 1: the program.
- 3:58Speaker 3: Really heavy like hoppy. When I carried him down, I
- 4:00Speaker 3: had to put like one of those belts on.
- 4:04Speaker 2: Carry it out. Really, how did.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Movers wear them things? You ever see like them? Like
- 4:10Speaker 1: they have this like one belt. Guy picks up three
- 4:13Speaker 1: refrigerators and the piano at the same time.
- 4:15Speaker 3: Hey, it worked, I got I got those two packages
- 4:17Speaker 3: down there with one of those, I saw that the
- 4:19Speaker 3: other didn't need a forklift or a dolly.
- 4:22Speaker 2: You know how to refer to Chuck a lot on
- 4:24Speaker 2: this program. Your neighbor Chuck got a new fridge. Oh boy,
- 4:27Speaker 2: hold out. The two guys hauled out the old fridge.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Just one of those belts.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Well you have a belt.
- 4:35Speaker 2: They were hurting.
- 4:36Speaker 3: But if he still have that inflatable in his garage?
- 4:38Speaker 3: Or am I just gonna have to call Lou Wendell.
- 4:40Speaker 3: I'm not telling you about the inflatable.
- 4:41Speaker 1: You just you just so the last time you respect
- 4:47Speaker 1: the Chuck, the last time you think Chuck would like
- 4:50Speaker 1: to come on someday? Or can we get a picture
- 4:52Speaker 1: of Chuck that we could put up there so when
- 4:53Speaker 1: we talk about Chuck, let people, I'll get you a picture. So,
- 4:59Speaker 1: by the way, just podcast related real.
- 5:03Speaker 2: Quick, We're off to a rousing start here on the show.
- 5:07Speaker 1: I've been doing a little research, so I was I
- 5:09Speaker 1: went to NAB, which is National Association of Broadcasters in
- 5:13Speaker 1: Vegas a couple of weeks ago, just for a couple
- 5:15Speaker 1: of three days and had not been had not been
- 5:20Speaker 1: there in over twenty years, and one of the things
- 5:23Speaker 1: I thought was really interesting was equipment and what it is.
- 5:26Speaker 1: There's eleven hundred exhibitors, there's fifty wells. In the past,
- 5:31Speaker 1: there'll be one hundred thousand people there. Yeah, it's not
- 5:33Speaker 1: as big because of COVID, but there's one hundreds still big.
- 5:36Speaker 1: One hundred and twenty countries are represented. There was like
- 5:39Speaker 1: seventy thousand people enough, there's enough. There was enough people anyway.
- 5:45Speaker 1: The podcasting is evolving, as you all know. It started
- 5:49Speaker 1: straight audio. We've always done this video wise as well.
- 5:54Speaker 1: But what I thought was interesting is that the way
- 5:56Speaker 1: people are consuming now to them, they're in different as
- 6:01Speaker 1: to how they.
- 6:01Speaker 2: Consume it, meaning listening or watching, and.
- 6:04Speaker 1: They do both. Yeah, eighty five percent, if I have
- 6:08Speaker 1: this right, eighty five percent of people use both ways.
- 6:14Speaker 1: So like if they're doing something that they can't use
- 6:17Speaker 1: their eyes, like they're driving or they're doing something where
- 6:20Speaker 1: they can't look, then they'll just listen. But like if
- 6:24Speaker 1: they sit down at their desk then and they have
- 6:28Speaker 1: it on off the side and they hear us talking
- 6:30Speaker 1: about like Coach Hunter in a slim gym, that's like,
- 6:36Speaker 1: look at this picture and we're laughing, like heck.
- 6:38Speaker 2: When the steering wheel was down at his ankles.
- 6:40Speaker 1: When the steering wheel, the steering wheel looked like like
- 6:42Speaker 1: a doughnut, and Coach Hunter's had was this big. So
- 6:46Speaker 1: people then go to that. So the point is that
- 6:49Speaker 1: this thing is evolving to the point where people are
- 6:51Speaker 1: now consuming this both ways. I think interesting.
- 6:54Speaker 3: That's true of a lot of our listeners. They can
- 6:55Speaker 3: text us and tell us that. But as we've been
- 6:57Speaker 3: talking to people there recently and you ask them, do
- 6:59Speaker 3: you listen or watch both depending, I can see that.
- 7:02Speaker 2: Ye.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Yeah, So anyway, that's that. And so now the portal
- 7:07Speaker 1: has reopened. It opened up on Wednesday, April to sixteenth.
- 7:11Speaker 1: But unlike past years when the portal would open and
- 7:15Speaker 1: you'd run around going, oh my goodness, oh my gracious,
- 7:19Speaker 1: did you see this guy jump? This person jumped this
- 7:21Speaker 1: person's in this point, it was like this total stunt
- 7:23Speaker 1: factor in football that did not happen here, and I'm
- 7:28Speaker 1: probably didn't happen most places in the country because it
- 7:32Speaker 1: was already communicated and set right. West Virginia has made
- 7:37Speaker 1: cuts and those players either didn't have the option to
- 7:42Speaker 1: go into the portal, they were already released, or it
- 7:46Speaker 1: was negotiated or discussed. Hey, you're good, you're in, you're out,
- 7:49Speaker 1: let's go. And so it was like it was a
- 7:52Speaker 1: non story at least here for at least the first day.
- 7:55Speaker 1: It's Thursday right now. At least for the first day,
- 7:58Speaker 1: it was not as big as it used to be, Okay,
- 8:02Speaker 1: which is significant a little bit of a you know,
- 8:05Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is that also is incrementally evolving. Yes,
- 8:09Speaker 1: where we're probably going to get out of the these
- 8:12Speaker 1: stunning moments of Hey, Hoppy Kerchival is in the transfer
- 8:16Speaker 1: portal or whatever. Okay, we'll talk about that. Also, Hoppy
- 8:22Speaker 1: has a little bit more on rev share and Nil
- 8:25Speaker 1: will present to the class and do a nice job
- 8:29Speaker 1: for us. Can nice report, Senator. We are up to
- 8:32Speaker 1: six names now on the new WVU basketball team. I
- 8:36Speaker 1: guess we could call this the twenty five twenty six
- 8:39Speaker 1: edition of the Mountaineer basketball, and we'll get.
- 8:41Speaker 3: Into it a little bit more, but I do think
- 8:42Speaker 3: all six guys are going to be really high impact
- 8:45Speaker 3: players for this team. So you can see how the
- 8:47Speaker 3: rosters are coming together where you're after your rotation guys
- 8:51Speaker 3: first and foremost, then you'll start to fill the back
- 8:53Speaker 3: end of that. And I think that's also how you're
- 8:55Speaker 3: kind of doing your dollars too, right. You want to
- 8:57Speaker 3: allocate to the guys that are going to play the
- 8:59Speaker 3: most and then fill with what you have to. So
- 9:01Speaker 3: they've addeded what I think is a really significant piece
- 9:03Speaker 3: to this group in a point guard. And so we'll
- 9:05Speaker 3: dive into some of his numbers coming up.
- 9:07Speaker 1: Fair to say that the six names that we have
- 9:10Speaker 1: right now probably will represent at least seventy five percent
- 9:15Speaker 1: of the minutes play next season.
- 9:17Speaker 3: I think it's a high number of minutes being played. Yeah,
- 9:19Speaker 3: DJ Thomas is the one question mark the high school
- 9:22Speaker 3: recruit that is signed that was originally committed to North Texas.
- 9:25Speaker 3: That's just a matter of body wise, he looks pretty ready.
- 9:28Speaker 3: It's just a matter of adjusting up to the college game.
- 9:31Speaker 3: How will he look. But I think he gets minutes.
- 9:33Speaker 3: It's just a matter of is that twelve minutes a game?
- 9:35Speaker 1: Is it?
- 9:36Speaker 3: Is it twenty five minutes a game? But yeah, I
- 9:37Speaker 3: think the guys that are that are on board. Now
- 9:39Speaker 3: you're going to see playing big roles on this team
- 9:41Speaker 3: this year.
- 9:41Speaker 1: All right, let's jump into Hoppies report. Now, he's been
- 9:44Speaker 1: a good student for us here during the semester, and
- 9:47Speaker 1: he took a field trip and he spent some time
- 9:50Speaker 1: with someone that is in the major no of how
- 9:53Speaker 1: this thing at least is shaping up again. It's like
- 9:56Speaker 1: an atch you sketch. Yeah, you can shake it at
- 9:58Speaker 1: any moment and it will change. But as of the moment, Hoppy,
- 10:02Speaker 1: what would you like to report to us?
- 10:03Speaker 2: Well, more than the etches sketch, it's more like Jello
- 10:06Speaker 2: or something or clay trying to figure out what it
- 10:08Speaker 2: is and everybody's trying to do it. And we're talking
- 10:10Speaker 2: about nil because as I've said before, I'm fascinated by
- 10:13Speaker 2: the money part of this, which is still evolving. And
- 10:17Speaker 2: we've talked a lot about revshare, but inil is I
- 10:21Speaker 2: think still going well. I know it's going to be
- 10:23Speaker 2: a significant part of the revenue for athletes. The question is, Brad,
- 10:29Speaker 2: how do you do it? You can do it internally,
- 10:32Speaker 2: and WV, by the way, hasn't decided yet whether they
- 10:34Speaker 2: do it internally or get a partner, but most schools
- 10:36Speaker 2: are going with a partner. Most schools are going with
- 10:39Speaker 2: ad agencies or startups that are specializing in this very opportunity.
- 10:47Speaker 2: For example, and I was pointed toward Kansas. Kansas uses
- 10:51Speaker 2: a firm Waltz Tetrick. Walt's Tetrick is the advertising agency
- 10:55Speaker 2: which is one of the bigger advertising agency in the Midwest.
- 10:58Speaker 2: They have they've already put together it's called Light and
- 11:00Speaker 2: they manage and navigate the brands for the Kansas athletes.
- 11:04Speaker 2: And a lot of schools are doing this. There's you know,
- 11:07Speaker 2: maybe ten or twelve major agencies out there that are
- 11:10Speaker 2: looking for this business with schools. What I came across too,
- 11:15Speaker 2: because I'm guilty of old school thinking like, Okay, I
- 11:19Speaker 2: guess you get the most prominent football or basketball player
- 11:21Speaker 2: to do an ad for a car dealer. That's really
- 11:24Speaker 2: outdated thinking because most of the opportunities are going to
- 11:29Speaker 2: be in social media, and those opportunities are going to
- 11:32Speaker 2: be not just with the biggest names that you're familiar
- 11:35Speaker 2: with from traditional sports coverage, but with individuals who can
- 11:39Speaker 2: put together a significant social media platform. Who's the best example,
- 11:46Speaker 2: Le've be done right the LSU gymnast And I was
- 11:51Speaker 2: looking at one of these ad agencies. So I think
- 11:53Speaker 2: about this, and if you go on their website, they say,
- 11:57Speaker 2: here are the athletes we represent and what would you
- 12:00Speaker 2: like Would you like them to appear, would you like
- 12:03Speaker 2: an autograph session, would you like them to appear in
- 12:06Speaker 2: a commercial? Would you like them to give you a
- 12:09Speaker 2: shout out? Would you like them to give you give
- 12:11Speaker 2: somebody birthday wishes? You can contract what was it, what
- 12:17Speaker 2: was the name of the one of them?
- 12:18Speaker 1: How much we're paying Livy Done to say happy birthday?
- 12:20Speaker 2: Well it depends.
- 12:21Speaker 3: I mean you can some random person in Indianapolis will
- 12:23Speaker 3: decide how much that is not the market go ahead?
- 12:26Speaker 2: So you can get you can, yes, you can get
- 12:33Speaker 2: somebody to one of these athletes to give you birthday wishes,
- 12:36Speaker 2: a video of birthday wish for ten bucks, or if
- 12:39Speaker 2: it's cam scataboo, it's seventy bucks. Okay, So that those
- 12:43Speaker 2: are opportunities I had not previously thought about. But it's
- 12:46Speaker 2: just different ways that ad agencies who specialize in this
- 12:48Speaker 2: brand are looking for ways.
- 12:50Speaker 1: Why are you smiling at him like that? Why are
- 12:54Speaker 1: you smiling at him like that?
- 12:56Speaker 2: Go ahead, what are you laying for me? No, gohead,
- 13:00Speaker 2: you're laughing at him? Now, I'm not laughing at him.
- 13:02Speaker 1: He's done some nice research. Okay.
- 13:04Speaker 2: Now, So it seems like the best way to do this,
- 13:08Speaker 2: and it's up to WU. Would would to be partner
- 13:11Speaker 2: with an ad agency, with one of these entities that's
- 13:13Speaker 2: going to specialize in trying to match athletes with products
- 13:19Speaker 2: and services. Okay, and you might again might think what
- 13:23Speaker 2: you just got to use the go to the biggest names.
- 13:26Speaker 1: I found one where there is a.
- 13:32Speaker 2: Market price, Market Price PROYC market price listeners. One of
- 13:36Speaker 2: their top ten Breonna Brown. You don't know who Brionna
- 13:39Speaker 2: Brown is. I don't either. She's a ut Arlington volleyball player.
- 13:44Speaker 2: But they signed her with the company that does facial
- 13:48Speaker 2: cream Sure and they put together a piece of after
- 13:52Speaker 2: the game. You know, when I go to bed at night,
- 13:53Speaker 2: I do this facial So creating not just filling not
- 13:57Speaker 2: just filling in traditional opportunities, but creating new opportunities that
- 14:02Speaker 2: weren't previously there. They're also looking these ad agencies are
- 14:06Speaker 2: looking at even younger athletes. Here's Aldison Broadest recently named
- 14:11Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Why to say Oldison Broadest get
- 14:15Speaker 2: ahead of myself?
- 14:17Speaker 1: Aren't they closed? They are?
- 14:19Speaker 2: Why do say Olison Broadest senior moment? Adidas? Adidas Adidas
- 14:24Speaker 2: recently named a star baseball player as their newest endorser. Right,
- 14:29Speaker 2: he is Ethan Holiday.
- 14:30Speaker 1: You know who Ethan the Holiday is probably one of
- 14:32Speaker 1: the Holiday boys in Oklahoma State. Probably he plays high
- 14:37Speaker 1: school baseball in Stillwater, Oklahoma, that famous family.
- 14:42Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. He's seventeen years old, Yeah, seventeen. But
- 14:47Speaker 2: he's one of the host recruits in the country and
- 14:49Speaker 2: they just they just signed him. That's one of their
- 14:50Speaker 2: biggest uh signees. Now, I know what Brad's gonna say,
- 14:55Speaker 2: because these signees are supposed to be get paid fair
- 15:00Speaker 2: market value for what they do, right, And that's where
- 15:02Speaker 2: Brad the years peak up. How do you determine fair
- 15:04Speaker 2: market value? Well, they're working on that. The NCAA is
- 15:06Speaker 2: working on that institute is working on that. And the
- 15:08Speaker 2: fair market value is supposed to be. For example, if
- 15:12Speaker 2: you're going to have a football player, a star football
- 15:15Speaker 2: player who's going to do social media for a particular product.
- 15:19Speaker 2: It should not be any more than someone who's not
- 15:23Speaker 2: a football player would get for those that same amount
- 15:27Speaker 2: of content.
- 15:28Speaker 3: The outrageous statement you just made, it's absolutely outrageous statement.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Let me finish, and then you can go a nice bread.
- 15:35Speaker 2: So it's supposed to be so obviously it is very subjective.
- 15:38Speaker 2: But Brad, you got me interested because, as you said,
- 15:43Speaker 2: this is going to be ripe for a legal challenge.
- 15:47Speaker 2: And already though, people are lining up to make challenges
- 15:51Speaker 2: to this, saying, what do a minute, what do you
- 15:52Speaker 2: mean fair market value? How can an entity determine a
- 15:55Speaker 2: fair market value for everybody out there? How can you
- 15:59Speaker 2: have this stay in? And they refer back, if this
- 16:03Speaker 2: is fought in court, they will go to the Austin case.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Why do they go to the Austin case? Because in
- 16:09Speaker 2: the Austin case, which was more about in the Austin case,
- 16:14Speaker 2: Justice Kavanaugh had a concurring opinion where he said, nowhere
- 16:20Speaker 2: else in America can businesses get away with agreeing not
- 16:25Speaker 2: to pay their workers a fair market rate on the
- 16:29Speaker 2: theory that their product is defined by not paying their
- 16:35Speaker 2: workers a fair market rate. The NCAA is not above
- 16:39Speaker 2: the wall. So Brad, that reinforces your argument that this
- 16:44Speaker 2: immediately will be subject to some antitrust litigation, saying, what
- 16:48Speaker 2: do you mean you came up with a formula immediate?
- 16:50Speaker 3: What was that line you just said, Well, what I
- 16:52Speaker 3: read from someone that doesn't play football should get the
- 16:55Speaker 3: same rate as the football player.
- 16:57Speaker 2: That is one of the theories being taught about in
- 17:01Speaker 2: trying to determine a value that is for.
- 17:05Speaker 3: For use and not and not just say for a
- 17:07Speaker 3: close student walking around campus, if they were gonna if
- 17:10Speaker 3: they were going to endorse the facial cream, should get
- 17:13Speaker 3: the same rate as someone with a major platform with
- 17:16Speaker 3: millions of followers.
- 17:17Speaker 2: If that's what we're going to say. No, if if
- 17:19Speaker 2: Joe on campus had one hundred thousand followers for whatever reason,
- 17:24Speaker 2: and the football player had one hundred thousand followers, then
- 17:27Speaker 2: it should be comparable. So it would be based on
- 17:29Speaker 2: not just Joe Joe Schmo.
- 17:30Speaker 3: Good attempt at an argument. That's a good attempt an
- 17:32Speaker 3: argument also hogwash, Okay, challengeable all day long. So artificially,
- 17:38Speaker 3: our artificially limiting market value. If if someone wants to
- 17:42Speaker 3: overpay for something in the marketplace, that happens every day,
- 17:48Speaker 3: So summarize a couple.
- 17:50Speaker 2: Points he's including his report, including my report, thank you,
- 17:54Speaker 2: is that WVU still needs to decide is it going
- 17:58Speaker 2: to try to do this in house or partner with
- 18:00Speaker 2: an agency. The second part is that there will be
- 18:03Speaker 2: tremendous opportunities I think for athletes at all levels to market,
- 18:08Speaker 2: to use social media to market themselves and affiliate with
- 18:11Speaker 2: a particular product, and probably you're better off with an
- 18:13Speaker 2: agency that specializes in doing that. They can line it up.
- 18:16Speaker 2: And the third thing is, as Brad said, that this
- 18:19Speaker 2: is going to be that the house the house settlement
- 18:23Speaker 2: is not the end of it. It's a big step,
- 18:25Speaker 2: but there will likely be a challenge to this whole
- 18:29Speaker 2: fair market value idea very.
- 18:31Speaker 1: Nice hobby, thank you, And this uh in Congress and
- 18:35Speaker 1: talking with some folks, they think it could be as
- 18:38Speaker 1: early as next month where there will be a law
- 18:40Speaker 1: passed to give college sports some form of antitrust exemption exemption,
- 18:47Speaker 1: well as early as May.
- 18:49Speaker 2: If that happens, then maybe it does. Maybe it does
- 18:51Speaker 2: fly if they have an exemption to antitrust.
- 18:54Speaker 1: Yeah, Brad, what do you have on all this?
- 18:55Speaker 3: Well, I would just say this and this is there's
- 18:58Speaker 3: there's not a lot of new things in sports especially,
- 19:00Speaker 3: and this is just really a remake. I've talked about
- 19:02Speaker 3: this many times, but we went through this back in
- 19:05Speaker 3: the day with coaches and eventually bringing coaches rights in house,
- 19:09Speaker 3: paying them up front, and then selling their rights institutionally.
- 19:13Speaker 3: So we've been we've been down this path. We've also
- 19:16Speaker 3: been down this path of nil of everybody freaking out
- 19:18Speaker 3: about this and all the car dealers that are going
- 19:20Speaker 3: to give deals and all the companies, and we saw
- 19:22Speaker 3: this the first round in the original there's very few
- 19:25Speaker 3: of those marketable athletes.
- 19:27Speaker 2: So are there opportunities?
- 19:29Speaker 1: Yes?
- 19:29Speaker 3: Are there more on social media than there are in
- 19:31Speaker 3: the general traditional media? Absolutely there is, yes, But there's
- 19:35Speaker 3: also not thousands of deals out there, thousands of companies
- 19:39Speaker 3: waiting to get involved in this. I think these will
- 19:41Speaker 3: be smaller deals in smaller time frames, just like you
- 19:45Speaker 3: see regular social media influencers. That's what this is is
- 19:48Speaker 3: going to because we've seen the big brands try and
- 19:51Speaker 3: jump in, and the most famous is doctor Pepper trying
- 19:53Speaker 3: to get on board.
- 19:54Speaker 1: Would do dj ungle.
- 19:57Speaker 3: When they got him on as a spokesperson, and he
- 20:00Speaker 3: absolutely was terrible, quite frankly on field and it crashed
- 20:04Speaker 3: an entire national brand. There's very few college football players
- 20:07Speaker 3: that can carry a national brand for a company. So
- 20:11Speaker 3: these are all going to be, for the most part,
- 20:13Speaker 3: in my opinion, some smaller deals or just the influencing
- 20:16Speaker 3: side on specific products. I do think there's a chance
- 20:19Speaker 3: for a few athletes to capitalize there, but I think
- 20:22Speaker 3: the thought that there's going to be these hundreds of
- 20:24Speaker 3: local deals for athletes and putting them on camera and
- 20:27Speaker 3: such just aren't going to exist most of these college athletes.
- 20:31Speaker 3: And we saw it, guys, We saw some really bad
- 20:33Speaker 3: commercials when this first started, when schools were trying to
- 20:37Speaker 3: figure it out before it just became pay for play.
- 20:39Speaker 3: So I would just caution, we'll spend a lot of
- 20:41Speaker 3: time on this platform. I think the deals will be
- 20:43Speaker 3: less than what some pundits are out there saying will
- 20:46Speaker 3: be available.
- 20:47Speaker 2: I agree with you, and again it's sort of to
- 20:50Speaker 2: be determined. Interestingly that in my research I found that
- 20:56Speaker 2: what is becoming more popular in this field of influencers
- 21:01Speaker 2: is younger people. I mean, it's not like they don't
- 21:05Speaker 2: want people who are who's people who's purchasing can be
- 21:12Speaker 2: influenced are typically younger and they're identifying with younger influencers
- 21:19Speaker 2: who have who create an impression, who have more authenticity
- 21:24Speaker 2: okay than older people. So it makes sense that you
- 21:28Speaker 2: would have like a high school baseball player, a college
- 21:32Speaker 2: gymnast or volleyball player can have a social media presence
- 21:38Speaker 2: that resonates more in a one on one basis with.
- 21:44Speaker 3: With with followers, but also welcome to advertising one oh one.
- 21:49Speaker 3: What hasn't changed? There's some nuance to this that the
- 21:52Speaker 3: younger influencers are speaking to the younger consumers. What don't
- 21:58Speaker 3: most younger consume have, which is why the older demographic
- 22:03Speaker 3: is still coveted money. What's you got to have money
- 22:05Speaker 3: to purchase the product? So that's why some of this
- 22:08Speaker 3: micro influencing I think has more of a shot, smaller
- 22:13Speaker 3: entry point to the dollars, not huge overall buys. That's
- 22:16Speaker 3: why putting a college quarterback trying to sell a ninety
- 22:21Speaker 3: thousand dollars vehicle may not be the right approach. So
- 22:24Speaker 3: that's why some of these micro deals have more of
- 22:27Speaker 3: a chance than these big brands are doing.
- 22:29Speaker 2: And those micro deals might be things like do you
- 22:33Speaker 2: want do you want to shout out from Tony Kreedi
- 22:37Speaker 2: do you want birthday wishes? Correct?
- 22:39Speaker 3: But that's where I say, do you know how many
- 22:41Speaker 3: birthday wishes you have to send out to get to
- 22:44Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars in payment? A ton more than
- 22:48Speaker 3: the athlete will have time to do. So these big
- 22:51Speaker 3: swings and misses where you give me a million and
- 22:54Speaker 3: I do a couple commercials, those aren't Those just aren't
- 22:56Speaker 3: going to be.
- 22:57Speaker 1: There as much.
- 22:57Speaker 3: So again, I just think this is a lot of
- 22:59Speaker 3: time and discussion on something that ultimately, when it goes in,
- 23:03Speaker 3: is going to be a small piece of the pie.
- 23:04Speaker 3: The bigger piece of the pie is still going to
- 23:06Speaker 3: be the revenue share that comes from the department. That's
- 23:09Speaker 3: where the real dollars are. The other stuff is fine
- 23:11Speaker 3: to talk about, and we can play in that world
- 23:13Speaker 3: a little bit, but that's not what's driving this.
- 23:15Speaker 2: It's the revenue share that's driving it.
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- 25:47Speaker 2: that maybe it's not going to be a gigantic deal.
- 25:51Speaker 2: And I understand what you're saying, Bread, but I do
- 25:54Speaker 2: think that if you look at some of what has
- 25:57Speaker 2: happened so far and what can happen at there will
- 26:01Speaker 2: be opportunities here for individuals who are in Olympic sports,
- 26:10Speaker 2: who in many schools are not going to get much
- 26:13Speaker 2: in revenue sharing, to get some money based on their name,
- 26:17Speaker 2: image and likeness and product and product which is better
- 26:22Speaker 2: than nothing. So there will be increased opportunity for them
- 26:26Speaker 2: to capitalize on their name, image and likeness.
- 26:34Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I think there's some great NIL opportunities
- 26:38Speaker 1: that are not being fully explored right now. Like I
- 26:42Speaker 1: could take a couple of kids off this Mountaineer baseball
- 26:44Speaker 1: team right now. I mean you got to you got
- 26:46Speaker 1: some homegrown kids on this team, like Logan West right
- 26:51Speaker 1: having a great Kylast I'm sorry, Kyle West, excuse me,
- 26:54Speaker 1: Logan Sava Logan, save Kyle West, either of those two
- 26:56Speaker 1: either the either the catcher or West. But you could
- 27:01Speaker 1: take those guys and you could still, Like there's businesses
- 27:04Speaker 1: out there that could benefit off of them, right now,
- 27:07Speaker 1: I just think it needs to be creatively composed. But
- 27:11Speaker 1: there's some things out there like Kyle West smacks the
- 27:14Speaker 1: living heck out of the ball. There's opportunities there, but
- 27:18Speaker 1: you have to have someone that does that agency aspect
- 27:21Speaker 1: of it, that marries the two together and say, hey,
- 27:24Speaker 1: this could really work for you.
- 27:26Speaker 3: Well what Yeah, here's here's something though, and then we
- 27:32Speaker 3: can move on because well, there's plenty of time to
- 27:33Speaker 3: have this discussion. But I think what you guys are
- 27:36Speaker 3: leaving out this is this is an interesting time because
- 27:40Speaker 3: while I agree in principle and theory what you're saying, Tony,
- 27:44Speaker 3: what is lost in college sports is because the portal,
- 27:49Speaker 3: with people moving so frequently, the ability to build your
- 27:54Speaker 3: brand in your local community by playing for three or
- 27:57Speaker 3: four years for one hundred and twenty games has lessened
- 28:01Speaker 3: significantly because you're not around long enough by the time
- 28:04Speaker 3: you build your name brand up. Would Javon Small, if
- 28:07Speaker 3: you were returning this year, have some brand equity? Yeah,
- 28:11Speaker 3: But did he have it at this time last year
- 28:13Speaker 3: for West Virginia No?
- 28:15Speaker 1: No.
- 28:15Speaker 3: But by the time the brand equity is built, Javon
- 28:18Speaker 3: is gone. So yes, there are opportunities, but what is hard.
- 28:23Speaker 3: In What really builds those opportunities and build your personal
- 28:26Speaker 3: brand is being visible for multiple games and multiple years
- 28:30Speaker 3: and multiple months around a program. And that just doesn't
- 28:34Speaker 3: exist like it once did. Guys that got and take
- 28:37Speaker 3: just football players, guys and men's basketball and football, they're
- 28:39Speaker 3: just not here anymore at the rate at which you
- 28:42Speaker 3: can jump behind and have the majority of people go yes,
- 28:46Speaker 3: I know who that is. That's one of the challenges
- 28:48Speaker 3: in the NIL space is people want to capitalize on
- 28:51Speaker 3: their name, image and likeness, but they're not around long
- 28:55Speaker 3: enough to build that up. It is hard to build
- 28:58Speaker 3: your name brand up. So that's one of the chanslengees here.
- 29:00Speaker 1: But a Kyle West, like a West Virginia kid, he
- 29:03Speaker 1: and he's been here, right, transferred from Charleston, he's been here. Yeah,
- 29:07Speaker 1: you're right. But the one the one off guys that
- 29:10Speaker 1: that are in and out in the year, it's not
- 29:12Speaker 1: going to be there. But your your guys that are
- 29:14Speaker 1: you know JJ last year that you saw grow up
- 29:19Speaker 1: and various guys. I think there's opportunities anyway, Like Brad said,
- 29:23Speaker 1: the NIL piece is going to be a small percentage
- 29:27Speaker 1: of the total dollars that they make because the revenue
- 29:29Speaker 1: share that the university is going to give them as
- 29:32Speaker 1: part of their contract to play, that is a probably
- 29:36Speaker 1: ninety plus percent of the money, maybe even higher than
- 29:38Speaker 1: that ninety five percent of what they're going to make.
- 29:40Speaker 2: But again, unless you are it's an exception to the sport,
- 29:44Speaker 2: which is going to get five percent of the twenty Megan,
- 29:48Speaker 2: I get it.
- 29:48Speaker 3: But yes, but again, there are very few of those
- 29:52Speaker 3: athletes across the country. Those just don't exist in every
- 29:55Speaker 3: sport with multiple people. It's just very few and far between.
- 30:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying, Look, it's advertising, so not everybody's
- 30:03Speaker 2: created equal. I'm just saying there will be opportunities for
- 30:07Speaker 2: individuals on social media to capitalize on their name, image
- 30:10Speaker 2: and likeness.
- 30:11Speaker 1: One two three three two one. So I check the numbers.
- 30:17Speaker 1: We'll just go right to the numbers. There comes a year,
- 30:20Speaker 1: what is West Virginia basketball getting in? Jasper Floyd, the
- 30:24Speaker 1: sixth member to join the team, spreads on stat's gonna
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- 31:08Speaker 1: So we're going to do the Jasper Floyd breakdown? Ready? Yeah?
- 31:15Speaker 1: Is he the point now?
- 31:16Speaker 3: Next year point guard coming in from North Texas played
- 31:18Speaker 3: for Ross Hodge last year at unt helped them to
- 31:21Speaker 3: those twenty seven wins this year. Important addition here, I
- 31:24Speaker 3: think to the squad for a bunch of reasons. But
- 31:26Speaker 3: first and foremost, your point guard is so critical to
- 31:30Speaker 3: your team and your success. And can the coach trust
- 31:33Speaker 3: the point guard? Does the point guard know what the
- 31:34Speaker 3: head coach wants? You often hear the cliche Hoffey, the
- 31:37Speaker 3: point guard's like an extension of the coach on the floor.
- 31:40Speaker 3: So can you get a point guard that fits your
- 31:43Speaker 3: mold of what you want to do? And I think
- 31:45Speaker 3: for Ross Hodge he has found his guy in Jasper Floyd,
- 31:48Speaker 3: who played for them him last year. He also had
- 31:51Speaker 3: two JUCO years under a spelt, so this is kind
- 31:53Speaker 3: of an interesting one. Theoretically, he has two years left
- 31:57Speaker 3: to play at this level given the JUCO ruling, where
- 31:59Speaker 3: you get those years back, what do you get in
- 32:02Speaker 3: this player? First of all, you get some size six'
- 32:04Speaker 3: to three point.
- 32:05Speaker 1: Guard that's.
- 32:06Speaker 3: Good so you get some size in the, backcourt you
- 32:08Speaker 3: get a heck of a. Defender and we'll get into
- 32:09Speaker 3: that here in just a. Second but thirty six percent
- 32:13Speaker 3: three point shooter last, year although he doesn't take a
- 32:15Speaker 3: ton of, three seventy six ish last year in when
- 32:18Speaker 3: they play thirty four, games so a couple per. Game
- 32:21Speaker 3: so this is a guy that's going to want to
- 32:23Speaker 3: get downhill some. Penetration then it's a kickout potentially to
- 32:26Speaker 3: some of your shooters on Or huff being one of
- 32:29Speaker 3: those guys you can kick it out. To last year's
- 32:31Speaker 3: nation's leader in three point field goals, Made So floyd's
- 32:34Speaker 3: going to be a guy that's going to look to
- 32:35Speaker 3: get to the basket and. Score he was top five last,
- 32:39Speaker 3: year top five percent nationally guys in assist, rate another
- 32:43Speaker 3: admirable trait in your point. Guard he also was top
- 32:47Speaker 3: twelve percent nationally in steel. Rate so a guy with
- 32:50Speaker 3: assists and. Steals and here was something. Interesting Evan, miakawa
- 32:55Speaker 3: who does a great job with some of the advanced,
- 32:56Speaker 3: stats had, him and this is a fluid, marketplace had
- 33:00Speaker 3: him as the top defender available in terms of defensive
- 33:04Speaker 3: value in the portal that's moved. DOWN i think he's
- 33:07Speaker 3: number three right now as we sit. Today but a
- 33:09Speaker 3: guy that can really. Defend so if you're talking about
- 33:11Speaker 3: A Ross hodge, system you get a point guard that
- 33:14Speaker 3: he can, trust that can distribute the, ball that can create,
- 33:17Speaker 3: steals and as a heck of a. Defender well that's about,
- 33:19Speaker 3: perfect isn't it in terms of. Fit SO i think
- 33:22Speaker 3: you can see What ross is doing. Here he has
- 33:23Speaker 3: put together the first six guys that have committed to
- 33:26Speaker 3: him are exactly what he. Wants you got good, size
- 33:31Speaker 3: you've got defensive, presence you have a shooter in, there
- 33:33Speaker 3: and you have a point guard that he is really
- 33:35Speaker 3: comfortable with and feels like can implement his system both
- 33:39Speaker 3: offensively and.
- 33:40Speaker 2: Defensively Bred among those that he's gotten so, far who
- 33:43Speaker 2: do you tap as a scorer or as a primary?
- 33:46Speaker 3: Scorer, Yeah Honor huff the guard that led the country
- 33:50Speaker 3: last year From chattanoga in three point field goals. Made
- 33:52Speaker 3: that's going to be your shooter scorer right. THERE i
- 33:54Speaker 3: Think Brendan laurient has some real upside on the offensive.
- 33:57Speaker 3: Side six,' nine, really athletic came along last year as
- 34:02Speaker 3: a scorer. AT times i think he's got some runway to.
- 34:04Speaker 3: GO up I Think jackson fields has a chance to
- 34:07Speaker 3: be a second or third scorer on. Your team some
- 34:11Speaker 3: nights he could.
- 34:12Speaker 1: Lead you he has.
- 34:13Speaker 3: The ability big guy six eight sixty nine can step
- 34:15Speaker 3: out and shoot some threes and had a couple of
- 34:18Speaker 3: games last year to them where he made five threes in.
- 34:20Speaker 3: A game so that's a guy you get in and,
- 34:22Speaker 3: work WITH and i think has the ability or some
- 34:24Speaker 3: runway to increase his. Offensive outfuot, but listen this team's
- 34:29Speaker 3: gonna be driven at the, Defensive. End sonna you're gonna
- 34:31Speaker 3: make your bones off holding teams and. Limiting points and
- 34:35Speaker 3: you saw that last year Off The west, virginia team
- 34:38Speaker 3: a team that wanted to play down in. The sixties
- 34:40Speaker 3: have a couple of nights where you're making shots and
- 34:42Speaker 3: then you're really hard. To beat but this team's going
- 34:44Speaker 3: to be driven. By DEFENSE but i do think you
- 34:46Speaker 3: have a couple of guys already in the mix that
- 34:49Speaker 3: can be scores for you, at Times and floud will
- 34:51Speaker 3: get you. Some points it just won't be a ton.
- 34:53Speaker 3: Of threes it'll be penetration in getting to.
- 34:55Speaker 2: The basket what do you think he's still. LOOKING for
- 34:58Speaker 2: i think you still want to continue to.
- 34:59Speaker 3: Add size you need another center to Go with Harlan
- 35:02Speaker 3: obi oha so you can play two bigs in. THE
- 35:04Speaker 3: middle i think you're always looking for scores if, they're
- 35:07Speaker 3: available and now you're looking to close out that rotation,
- 35:10Speaker 3: BECAUSE again i think everybody that you've seen signed so
- 35:13Speaker 3: far there's an expectation that they're going to play. Some
- 35:15Speaker 3: minutes and so if you think you're going to play
- 35:17Speaker 3: eight ish guys when it really gets down, to it
- 35:19Speaker 3: you're getting. Pretty CLOSE so i had a couple more
- 35:21Speaker 3: pieces that you know are going to get some minutes,
- 35:23Speaker 3: for you and then you just add some back into.
- 35:25Speaker 3: The roster but you're always looking for shooting and. For
- 35:28Speaker 3: scoring There's a Division Two all american that took a
- 35:31Speaker 3: Visit To west virginia and. Is interested that's a heck
- 35:35Speaker 3: of a shooter in SCORE so i think you can
- 35:37Speaker 3: add guys.
- 35:37Speaker 2: Like that do you think in, today's environment after you
- 35:40Speaker 2: get past the, first eight are you adding guys that
- 35:43Speaker 2: you think will be here? Another? Year, question YEAH so
- 35:49Speaker 2: i think you're looking for. Two things.
- 35:52Speaker 3: You're going to still have some. Developmental GUYS so i
- 35:55Speaker 3: think can you go Out As west virginia was going
- 35:57Speaker 3: to do the previous year with three high school kids
- 35:59Speaker 3: IT was i still think that's a reasonable number to
- 36:02Speaker 3: add two to three high school kids that the expectation
- 36:05Speaker 3: is you'll have them for a couple, of years maybe
- 36:07Speaker 3: more if. You're LUCKY but i don't think you look
- 36:09Speaker 3: much past two. Years anymore if you get them, past,
- 36:11Speaker 3: That GREAT but i think you add a couple developmental
- 36:13Speaker 3: pieces that you can mix in and play a, little
- 36:15Speaker 3: bit but also have some returning guys mixed in.
- 36:18Speaker 2: With PORTAL but i do.
- 36:19Speaker 3: Think guys the fact remains some of these back end
- 36:23Speaker 3: of roster guys, that, eleven twelve thirteen spots are going
- 36:27Speaker 3: to be guys that are going to get some practice
- 36:29Speaker 3: in and that are looking. For spots and you're not
- 36:31Speaker 3: going to dedicate a ton of dollars to. Those guys
- 36:34Speaker 3: and there's probably not the expectation that are going. To
- 36:36Speaker 3: play so you want. Some development if you can get
- 36:38Speaker 3: some guys to, take, that yes you. Take that other
- 36:41Speaker 3: you just want some guys that are some bodies. In
- 36:43Speaker 3: THERE but i think that's the trends you're going to
- 36:45Speaker 3: see is as the as the, dollars shrink you're going
- 36:49Speaker 3: to put the bulk of your dollars into your top
- 36:51Speaker 3: eight guys and the rest of them you get what.
- 36:53Speaker 1: You get. You know they're also Flirting With Tracon, Eagle
- 36:57Speaker 1: staff big, time Score And jeff goodman is reporting that
- 37:05Speaker 1: He Thinks west virginia has the Edge over Kentucky On.
- 37:08Speaker 1: Eagle staff who's a guy that had Forty last december
- 37:11Speaker 1: with eight Threes. Against halabama. So score so you'll see
- 37:16Speaker 1: what you got there. As, well, yeah again 'tis? The,
- 37:19Speaker 1: season yeah here's. The season got you go? With that
- 37:23Speaker 1: are you? Good anymore one, other thing.
- 37:28Speaker 2: This is kind.
- 37:28Speaker 3: OF nerdy i realized it doesn't have anything to do
- 37:32Speaker 3: with we're Talking, about well wait.
- 37:34Speaker 1: A second that'd be. A first it's.
- 37:36Speaker 3: Basketball related IT'S something i found interesting because we talked
- 37:40Speaker 3: about this at times. LAST year I Referenced. Evan miakaway
- 37:44Speaker 3: he's got a stat that's called. Kill shots where you
- 37:48Speaker 3: go on a ten oh run. Or more he told us,
- 37:50Speaker 3: about it and you win like eighty one percent of
- 37:53Speaker 3: the time according to, his research when you have a
- 37:54Speaker 3: ten oh run in. A game well THERE'S another i
- 37:58Speaker 3: was playing around with some of those numbers on another
- 38:00Speaker 3: site that defined these by eight, oh runs not ten.
- 38:03Speaker 3: Oh runs just something. Interesting Here west virginia had forty
- 38:08Speaker 3: eight eight oh runs last season, or, more okay eight
- 38:13Speaker 3: nothing or more runs forty eight. Of, them conversely had
- 38:18Speaker 3: forty four eight to oh droughts that it, went through
- 38:23Speaker 3: and some of, these numbers it would again, common sense
- 38:26Speaker 3: but it's interesting when you see them in front, of
- 38:29Speaker 3: you and it goes back to how you win. Games,
- 38:33Speaker 3: hobby so on those Streaks That west virginia was on,
- 38:36Speaker 3: last year when it went on an eight to, oh
- 38:38Speaker 3: run its three point percentage was sixty seven percent made
- 38:44Speaker 3: shots in the eight, oh drought what was your three? Point,
- 38:47Speaker 3: percentage yeah probably. Twenty percent, well zero you didn't make,
- 38:49Speaker 3: any shots. It was it was an eight, nothing run eight.
- 38:51Speaker 1: Nothing, run yeah it. Was, zero okay so.
- 38:53Speaker 3: Expect that but how about this your turnover rate when
- 38:57Speaker 3: you were on an eight to oho run. Or, more
- 38:59Speaker 3: no your offensive turnover rate was just, Seven percent so
- 39:03Speaker 3: why do you hear coaches preach? So much do not turn?
- 39:06Speaker 3: It Over one and on the, defensive end which you're
- 39:09Speaker 3: going To See ross, hodge preach. Create turnovers when you
- 39:12Speaker 3: win on an aight, oh drought your turnover percentage was thirty.
- 39:17Speaker 3: One percent. Last year you turned it over at a
- 39:19Speaker 3: one third of possession rate when you, were struggling and
- 39:23Speaker 3: you turned it over at a seven percent rate when
- 39:26Speaker 3: it was. Going, well oh imagine that, Common sense but some.
- 39:29Speaker 2: Hard numbers to back. That up here's.
- 39:30Speaker 3: Another one when you went on an a to, h
- 39:33Speaker 3: run your free throw attempt rate and Last Year's west
- 39:36Speaker 3: virydin team did not get to the line a. Whole
- 39:38Speaker 3: lot but your free throw attempt rate was twenty, nine
- 39:40Speaker 3: percent still relatively, low nationally but twenty. Nine percent when
- 39:45Speaker 3: you were getting beat in an aight, oh drought your
- 39:48Speaker 3: free throw attempt rate. Five percent find?
- 39:52Speaker 1: Easy?
- 39:53Speaker 3: Points right how do you? Get points? Three pointers get to?
- 39:57Speaker 3: THE line i thought that was. Pretty interesting so forty
- 40:00Speaker 3: eight runs of eighth or more forty four eight? Oh
- 40:04Speaker 3: droughts real quick Look At north texas, last year. DIFFERENT
- 40:07Speaker 3: league i get it they had forty six eight, zho
- 40:11Speaker 3: runs almost similar number To What west, virginia had but
- 40:15Speaker 3: only had twenty seven eight. Oh droughts again different.
- 40:20Speaker 1: Going To west virginia have forty, four okay.
- 40:22Speaker 2: So again different level.
- 40:23Speaker 3: OF defense i, understand that but way, less droughts almost
- 40:27Speaker 3: half of what it had in terms. Of runs When
- 40:30Speaker 3: When north texas went on, a run similar three point
- 40:33Speaker 3: percentage sixty six percent from three. Making shots it's free
- 40:37Speaker 3: throw attempt rate thirty, five percent about right added, season
- 40:41Speaker 3: average but when it was in a drought an eight
- 40:44Speaker 3: percent free throw. Attempt rate turnover percentage is, real quick
- 40:49Speaker 3: twenty nine percent when it was on, a drought almost
- 40:53Speaker 3: double what it was on the season when it was
- 40:57Speaker 3: going well, for them a six percent. Turnover rate, make
- 41:02Speaker 3: threes get to, the line don't turn. It over so
- 41:06Speaker 3: as you start to build keys to the game, next
- 41:08Speaker 3: year remember this that would be a key. Every GAME
- 41:11Speaker 3: and I Think north texas is going to play similarly
- 41:14Speaker 3: To What west virginia did last year and how. It
- 41:16Speaker 3: did don't turn, it over make some threes and steal
- 41:21Speaker 3: the basketball from the.
- 41:22Speaker 1: Other team there. You go i'd like to know what
- 41:24Speaker 1: the percentages were In the Big twelve Tournament when colorado
- 41:28Speaker 1: went on the eighty one to nothing Run Against, west
- 41:30Speaker 1: virginia what was the? Turnover rate and was a? Shooting?
- 41:32Speaker 1: PERCENTAGE there i could.
- 41:33Speaker 2: Get that it's still really.
- 41:34Speaker 1: Funny, potatoes yeah.
- 41:36Speaker 3: So you need to avoid those big droughts, Number one
- 41:41Speaker 3: but that's how you. Do it don't turn, it over
- 41:43Speaker 3: make your shots get to. The.
- 41:44Speaker 1: Line simple there.
- 41:46Speaker 3: You go, so again not related to anything we were necessarily,
- 41:49Speaker 3: talking about but as you start to look how this
- 41:51Speaker 3: program is going to play, MOVING forward i think that's
- 41:54Speaker 3: a good indication guard make a few shots get to.
- 41:57Speaker 2: The line coach has ever, Mentioned, That, britt oh once.
- 42:01Speaker 1: In a while. They may in, all seriousness that would
- 42:04Speaker 1: be good if you could put it in graphic form
- 42:05Speaker 1: in a team room, and, go, okay guys let me show. You,
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- 43:05Speaker 2: Of points back to, Your. Point brad so there were
- 43:10Speaker 2: ninety plus ninety Instances Where west virginia went on a
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- 43:15Speaker 2: team went on an.
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- 43:18Speaker 1: Yeses. Combined yeah so.
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- 43:39Speaker 3: Why When. West virginia did those ended up in wins
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- 46:55Speaker 3: we could can we see the trytoon back on the
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- 47:09Speaker 2: that would.
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- 49:36Speaker 3: Commitment yeah offensive, lineman yeah, six' five listed sixty five.
- 49:41Speaker 3: TWO seventy eight i think IT'S mckel m i C
- 49:45Speaker 3: k e L Might be michel clay Out Of. The
- 49:49Speaker 3: North alabama north alabama played seven hundred and ninety two,
- 49:55Speaker 3: snaps last year graded out as a seventy seven OFFENSIVE,
- 49:59Speaker 3: grade per pff seventy four run blocking grade seventy three.
- 50:03Speaker 3: Pass blocking grade what's? His name again MICHEL MCKEL M
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- 50:24Speaker 1: Year? He's old? Three played three he? Has, played three
- 50:30Speaker 1: okay so, there you. Go late breaking has? You noticed
- 50:34Speaker 1: THAT like if i were to say to you, four
- 50:36Speaker 1: years three, two years ago, one year ago how we?
- 50:40Speaker 1: Use in conversation we just say like you? Did it
- 50:44Speaker 1: earlier you said like unt like we LIKE, we know
- 50:47Speaker 1: unt like we would Always Call them north texas like
- 50:50Speaker 1: unt has become part. Of the Dialogue And also jack
- 50:54Speaker 1: state like We Always say Jacksonville State unt jack state.
- 50:57Speaker 3: Like we're down because you, follow this schools you have
- 51:00Speaker 3: to pay interest to, changes, Over, time right yes.
- 51:05Speaker 2: How about This mckel or michael mckel clay six' five
- 51:09Speaker 2: almost two to eighty in high, school played, wide receiver
- 51:13Speaker 2: excuse me played wide. Receiver and defensive end how would
- 51:16Speaker 2: you like to be a corner. Lining.
- 51:17Speaker 1: Up, against him yeah yeah That's the first time. I've
- 51:20Speaker 1: heard of that that's what it.
- 51:22Speaker 2: Says in, his, bio here.
- 51:23Speaker 3: Again guys it just shows you where, this it's just
- 51:26Speaker 3: wild where this market has gone from how many stars
- 51:30Speaker 3: do they have coming? Out of high school how good were?
- 51:32Speaker 3: They in high school to now you're Bringing In somebody
- 51:34Speaker 3: from north, alabama, and, you go okay yeah let's. See
- 51:37Speaker 3: What you have West virginia Recruiting A division two all
- 51:40Speaker 3: american and basketball it kid received over seventy five calls
- 51:44Speaker 3: slash texts of interest when he, hit The transfer portal.
- 51:47Speaker 3: A division two guy as, We've, talked many times hoppy
- 51:50Speaker 3: you've heard me. SAY it for years i think there's
- 51:52Speaker 3: great coaches all over this country, at all different levels
- 51:55Speaker 3: and many of them do Not reside at the power, for,
- 51:57Speaker 3: same with players right and you're starting to be able
- 51:59Speaker 3: to find them to fill needs from. All over the
- 52:02Speaker 3: place it's just it's. A really, interesting time.
- 52:04Speaker 1: And, also as you, say and it's true you're allowed
- 52:07Speaker 1: to get better, as you grow older and it doesn't
- 52:09Speaker 1: mean that you're a finished product when you come. Out.
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- 52:36Speaker 2: Excited about the.
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- 53:44Speaker 1: show brad, got these, two Massive, heavy packages and jake
- 53:50Speaker 1: if you, would be so kind can you show us what?
- 53:52Speaker 1: Was in the box? Is item number one so he.
- 53:58Speaker 1: Sent us a case that's Just One of. Those maui
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- 54:07Speaker 1: Already busted into one brad's already, Busted into his too i've.
- 54:10Speaker 1: ALREADY here take that i mean you talk. About sweet
- 54:12Speaker 1: And sugar. Oh my maui golds look.
- 54:16Speaker 3: HOW good they look i didn't get a great shot there.
- 54:18Speaker 3: Of the the stem it would be the stem, COMING
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- 54:24Speaker 3: advertising piece so.
- 54:25Speaker 1: Take a look at the. Next thing he. Sent this
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- 54:34Speaker 1: bottles of craft root beers that are some of the
- 54:39Speaker 1: most well known brand. Names over the years you've. Got
- 54:43Speaker 1: dads in there. You've got cherry wine was? That? What
- 54:47Speaker 1: it was brad they're. Not all root beers they're.
- 54:50Speaker 3: A great brind soda there on the right there's an orange.
- 54:52Speaker 3: Creamsickle soda, on top really interesting.
- 54:55Speaker 1: Just a big box And That was from tommy boy. And,
- 54:58Speaker 1: independence our guy yeah he's our guy and he just,
- 55:02Speaker 1: sent It to US and brad and i shared a,
- 55:04Speaker 1: Caramel root.
- 55:05Speaker 2: Beer brownie, Carmel brownie, carmel brownie.
- 55:08Speaker 1: Carmel brownie and uh it was tremendous and it had finished.
- 55:12Speaker 2: With the.
- 55:13Speaker 1: Caramel taste, Nice Finished.
- 55:15Speaker 2: Thank you tommy.
- 55:16Speaker 1: Boy that was.
- 55:16Speaker 2: Awesome that was tremendous, beyond those. Are great great gifts
- 55:19Speaker 2: we saved you.
- 55:20Speaker 1: A couple, of pineapples thank. You love pineapple texting they're
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- 55:45Speaker 1: Tony where does title nine fit in when it comes?
- 55:48Speaker 2: To?
- 55:48Speaker 1: This Rev Share, uh george claudia wilkins who's making the
- 55:51Speaker 1: final decision, of the house case said it's it. Doesn't
- 55:54Speaker 1: factor into it so this is not, a fifty to
- 55:56Speaker 1: fifty fifty to fifty share of what the university is
- 55:59Speaker 1: paying student athletes that has. To go male female doesn't play. Into,
- 56:03Speaker 1: It at All texter, Jeff and, scott. Depot good, Day
- 56:07Speaker 1: gentlemen last episode tony was saying that he felt sorry
- 56:10Speaker 1: for football. Players that are cut isn't this what the
- 56:14Speaker 1: players wanted when they wanted to be paid and able
- 56:16Speaker 1: to transfer to the highest. Bidder year after year they
- 56:19Speaker 1: don't feel sorry for the university or the fans. When
- 56:21Speaker 1: they take off. It's all about them like my grandpa,
- 56:24Speaker 1: used to always say be careful. What, YOU ask for
- 56:28Speaker 1: yeah i think there is Truth to that that there
- 56:31Speaker 1: are going to be, two sides to this and it's
- 56:33Speaker 1: not going to. Be all player positive there are going
- 56:37Speaker 1: to be ramifications and we saw it when. These cuts
- 56:39Speaker 1: were made, there are you know there's a significant number
- 56:43Speaker 1: of players. That were on scholarship this semester that we're
- 56:47Speaker 1: told that there will not be. A, spot for them now.
- 56:50Speaker 2: What like like a half dozen freshman Recruits, who, are on.
- 56:54Speaker 2: Scholarshi yep yeah right we were talking about it Last
- 56:56Speaker 2: night On sports line with greg and. It's, A, significant
- 56:59Speaker 2: number Yeah tony This, is patrick from Charleston. And fairness
- 57:04Speaker 2: to tony if donuts were, supposed to be donuts they
- 57:08Speaker 2: shouldn't have been spelled that way by The rules. Of
- 57:10Speaker 2: the english language donuts instantly makes. YOU say don etz
- 57:15Speaker 2: i know that donuts, were shortened to donuts but donuts is.
- 57:18Speaker 2: A guess at best i'm happy that the hostess, worker
- 57:21Speaker 2: cleared it up but the pronunciation is. Not, obvious or,
- 57:23Speaker 2: apparent well in fairness what are The rules?
- 57:25Speaker 3: Of the, english, language my gosh yeah that is true.
- 57:28Speaker 3: And not a guest it's more. Of an, educated get they,
- 57:32Speaker 3: Are IN fact donuts so i think you could have
- 57:34Speaker 3: deduced they were trying to say donuts if. YOU looked,
- 57:37Speaker 3: AT it, i mean i mean it. Is a donut
- 57:38Speaker 3: product it isn't just, a word by ITSELF in which
- 57:41Speaker 3: case i. Would see the confusion but you're holding you're
- 57:44Speaker 3: holding the packaging of the, ACTUAL donuts inside right i. Think,
- 57:48Speaker 3: you can move yeah, maybe STILL a guess but i
- 57:50Speaker 3: don't know that it's. A guess at best a very
- 57:52Speaker 3: educated guest would have. Got you to, donuts some of us,
- 57:57Speaker 3: not all of us, would, go, THAT direction clearly right i.
- 58:00Speaker 1: Would, say THIS to that and i think we perhaps
- 58:02Speaker 1: have spent a little bit so much time. Talking ABOUT
- 58:04Speaker 1: the situation but i. Would simply say this there's two.
- 58:07Speaker 1: Ways to SPELL donuts THERE'S do u, g h and
- 58:10Speaker 1: uts and then YOU can GO d o. D o
- 58:12Speaker 1: n uts we. Both, say. That's donuts OKAY fine so
- 58:16Speaker 1: WHEN i was WHEN i SAW D O N e,
- 58:22Speaker 1: T t, e, s i thought okay they want you
- 58:25Speaker 1: to say it in a different way because they're. Smaller
- 58:27Speaker 1: and more DAINTIES so what? Did? I call them donets
- 58:32Speaker 1: or or it Could have been The french donate or
- 58:35Speaker 1: benyet he noticed. What, he did there.
- 58:39Speaker 3: Yes spent too much time talking about this because. It's
- 58:41Speaker 3: his faux pas if it, was your faux pas we'd
- 58:43Speaker 3: still be talking about it.
- 58:45Speaker 1: ABOUT five shows and i. Would, just own, IT hey
- 58:48Speaker 1: three guys i think the conversation about fair market value for.
- 58:51Speaker 1: COLLEGE athletics is fascinating i think someone is worth what people.
- 58:54Speaker 1: ARE Willing To pay a honus wagner baseball card is worth,
- 59:00Speaker 1: millions to some folks while others would put it in
- 59:02Speaker 1: THEIR bicycle spokes that i just aged myself IN terms.
- 59:05Speaker 1: Of the lsu gymnasts how do you factor? In her
- 59:08Speaker 1: social media she. Has fourteen million FOLLOWERS the only thing
- 59:11Speaker 1: i know for sure is a bunch of lawyers are
- 59:12Speaker 1: going to make. A. Bunch, of money correct.
- 59:14Speaker 2: Well there are METRICS that, They, WILL i, KNOW brad.
- 59:19Speaker 2: I know i know but there are, metrics that the,
- 59:22Speaker 2: entity WHOEVER it is the ncaa or whatever will use
- 59:25Speaker 2: to try to determine them with. The fair market value.
- 59:31Speaker 1: From, the text, LINE hey three guys i am sixty
- 59:35Speaker 1: FOUR years old and i recently joined a group of.
- 59:38Speaker 1: Seniors that. Play basketball be careful they play multiple times
- 59:42Speaker 1: weekly and have teams That Play. Nationally and senior olympics i'm,
- 59:45Speaker 1: Currently at sixty four i'm the. Youngest in the group the.
- 59:47Speaker 1: Oldest is ninety.
- 59:48Speaker 2: One they run on five out you think they go.
- 59:51Speaker 1: Plus five out run one of the teams that Play
- 59:53Speaker 1: in the national tournament is the oldest team that has
- 59:55Speaker 1: been playing together Since High school at stonewall jackson high
- 59:58Speaker 1: school in this text and Hoping That either on Three
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: guys or sports line you do a segment to not only,
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: recognize these older athletes but also let seniors out there
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: know they can. Come join our group thanks, For all You.
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: Do holly from, Elkview how about that i'm sending a
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: picture of a Fe you guys. Celebrating fred's ninetieth birthday
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: fred plays two or. Three times a week fred.
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: Is hold the.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: Ball over his head, so if you win. So there
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: you go so there's one. Shot, of, those, guys, no
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: no no no here's one coming up with someone's holding
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: the ball out that that. Young man is, ninety that dude's.
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: Ninety don't look ninety he. Looks better than kerchiable hey.
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: Say hedge the hedge the ball screen or switch everything.
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: They go under under make. Sure, to three under yeah go.
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: Ahead and make it show me. You can make it
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: our new basketball coach is. Still, looking for Guys Awesome.
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: A legendary Nemo nierman down in charleston played literally for.
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: Just years and years. It's unbelievable those guys i've heard
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: about that group. For literally, forty years really yeah really.
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: Had good for them yeah Awesome Here's someone from west
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: Virginia photo bombing a. Dabbo swingy News Conference always. A
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: West virginia connection so dabbo's doing a presser and that
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: gentleman there had the Flag Going and. They're, west Virginia
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: flag yeah so dabbo didn't probably want. To look over
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: there it was a Long Night. At the orange bowl
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: probably didn't want to look back over, there on that
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: side although things have gone. Quite, well for himself.
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: Yeah they've, done okay.
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: Last, show at the End We were doing Rodney dangerfield lines,
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: And Stephen, morgantown says, rodney dangerfield my wife she's. Such
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: a bad cook, the flies are sewing the. Ripping the
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: screen door.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: It's old humor brand.
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: Talk about something that's gone on, for too many, shows all,
- 1:01:47Speaker 3: DUE respect respect ye i want To.
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: Tell, you bred, howe hey three guys is there any
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: chance of getting enforceable multi year contracts as part of
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: the changes coming to? COLLEGE for on basketball i don't
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: want to hear the words pro model again. Until we
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: GET That In. TRADES jd southern coalfields i do think
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: that you're. GONNA get enforceable contracts I don't think we're
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: i'm Going To trade like rich rodriguez Today, announced the trade?
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: Sindy how about that oh? That would be? Wild how
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: about that oh. That would be. UNBELIEVABLE obviously not. Happening
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: i don't?
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: Know can you imagine then give you two business. Majors
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: in exchange four we'll give you with your two guys,
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: off the golf team if you give. Us the backup center.
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: Got a center from Got a center from Princeton Today
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: as a west virginia needed to raise, It's it's Academic.
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: Standing michael and clodin remember he, gave us. The fudge good.
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: Fudge oh that's good i've been meaning to text You all.
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: SINCE the guynacologist episode i Was driving eastbound. ON interstate
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: sixty four i literally belly. Laughed for nine miles not,
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: sure what was Funnier the joke or brad trying to
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: talk you out. Of telling the, story needless to say keep, Up,
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: the great work.
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: Michael don't encourage him thank, you for the text, but
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: don't encourage him.
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: And don't just move. To the next text just In
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: time for your easter basket. At your participating, store, take
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: a look boom there they are those those. Donets, donuts
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: donets donuts yeah you can. Go gobble them up you.
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: Can have it in the. Morning with your kofee.
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: That's pretty. WELL done you know i.
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: Told you Last time the The Gomart up at Postal,
- 1:03:34Speaker 3: plaza here in morgantown just off, sixty eight right there
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: have a nice display of those and, multiple, kinds powdered sugar.
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: Chocolate whatever you want let me tell you. Something about
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: those poets and they.
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: Just ASKED for them like i do IN that store.
- 1:03:45Speaker 3: When i GO in you're just i don't. Need to
- 1:03:48Speaker 3: wander around they. ARE very helpful there i just. Say
- 1:03:50Speaker 3: we're the donuts they just point you.
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: Right to.
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: Over there thank you walk. RIGHT back to him.
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: I used to crush. Those powdered, sugar ones, oh yeah.
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: Crush them crush them. Chocolate are Very good That to
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: doug and sutton last gets the last text. In of,
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: THE show he writes i don't know who, needs to
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: hear this but as We head, into the easter season
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: a receis egg does have. Four grams of. Protein that's
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: good eating.
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: Those are right up near The. Front counter at gomart
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: the eggs and eggs. Are just right there he. Can't
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: Miss those things go.
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: Mark got'ta be. GOING crazy right now I mean with
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: the easter stuff, going ON right, now right i mean there's.
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: Selling some rest there they're, going out of there. Like
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: moving some, eggs brad you guys you girls.
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: Doing an egg hunter. They, grown beyond that. No no
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: that anymore when, my son was young we all Have to.
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: Get the easter baskets i'm sure we would just keep
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: hiding them like we would have the eggs and he and,
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: then like every day we. Just keep, doing it really
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: yeah for like weeks until they all got all. Broken
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: up and lost. Just keep doing it so that's.
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: WHY he's like that i knew there was something. Mentally. Ruined,
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: the kid yeah, Yeah guys walking round.
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: I'm looking for that do you think someone Will will
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: have an easter basket this weekend with? Some, donuts in,
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: there yes in.
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: FACT might be me.
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: I might do that. Probably get a picture, probably. Get,
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: a picture mate. Okay we'll be back easter money.
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: Might be bringing that.
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: We'll be. BACK next week. Sometime i, don't know we're
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- 1:05:43Speaker 2: we said efforting yeah, he's in pro first we're gonna.
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: Let, him get players well that's.
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: A really good idea we should have.
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: The new basketball coach you probably.
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: Hadn't THOUGHT about that so i Want to suggest that chress.
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: Was made day one, we're, in the hopper hopper.
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: Just trying. To participate the program.
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