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Transforming Spaces with Bold DIY Projects and Smart Ground Cover Tips · Repcolite Home Improvement Show

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Home in Progress, sponsored by Repcolite
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  Speaker 1: Paints and Benjamin Moore. You know, whether you're tackling your
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  Speaker 1: very first DIY project or you've been painting professionally for years,
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  Speaker 1: Repcolite and Benjamin Moore are here with the tools, the
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  Speaker 1: paint and the expert advice to help you get it
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  Speaker 1: done right every time.
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  Speaker 2: Now on the show.
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  Speaker 1: This week, I'm joined by Patty Brummel from Midlife Revival,
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  Speaker 1: and I've been following her work on Instagram for quite
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  Speaker 1: a while now, and she's always got some great projects going. Recently,
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  Speaker 1: she repainted an old player piano and the way she
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  Speaker 1: approached that transformation really caught my eye, so I reached
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  Speaker 1: out and today we're going to dig into that project,
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  Speaker 1: the steps she took, the thinking behind the bold color choice,
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  Speaker 1: and even how a single dramatic color can completely change
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  Speaker 1: the feel of a room. It's a fun conversation and
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  Speaker 1: that's coming up in just a bit, but right now,
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  Speaker 1: let's start with a problem that I've been running into
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  Speaker 1: at my own house.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the scoop.
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  Speaker 1: I've got a stand of five blue spruce all planted
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  Speaker 1: in this large eighty foot or so long flower bed. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I filled that flower bed over the years with mulch,
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  Speaker 1: but that never lasts terribly long.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, I'm trying to fill the bed with weeds.
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  Speaker 1: And while that's really coming along, I mean, that's really
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  Speaker 1: coming together, it's really filling in the gaps. While that's
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  Speaker 1: the case, it doesn't look good. So I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that's my answer moving forward. So I've been debating what
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  Speaker 1: in the world to do with this big flower bed,
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  Speaker 1: and I've been leaning towards putting down a weed barrier
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  Speaker 1: fabric and brand new mulch, you know, just do that
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  Speaker 1: again and hope for the best. But then the kids
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  Speaker 1: and I a few weeks back, went to Macana Island
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  Speaker 1: and as we're walking around taking in the sites, we
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  Speaker 1: scoped out a number of landscaped beds that featured spruce
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  Speaker 1: trees and various types of groundcover. And groundcover was not
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  Speaker 1: something that I had previously thought about as a solution
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  Speaker 1: to my situation at home, and so I started researching
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  Speaker 1: and thinking and digging. And that's what I want to
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  Speaker 1: go through in this segment. You know, all the things
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  Speaker 1: that I learned. So let's talk groundcover, and we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about the choices that will work in West Michigan, what
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  Speaker 1: you can watch for and why fall actually is a
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  Speaker 1: great time to plant them, all right, So groundcover, let's
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  Speaker 1: start with options that work well in shade, because that's
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  Speaker 1: where a lot of people often struggle. My situation probably
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  Speaker 1: isn't a shade problem, but other people do struggle with shade.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll start with other people first, because that's the way.
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  Speaker 1: I am pretty big hearted when it comes down to it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Grass doesn't thrive under big trees, but native
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  Speaker 1: plants like wild ginger do. No. Wild ginger it's a
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  Speaker 1: low growing native plant with dark, green, heart shaped leaves.
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  Speaker 1: It's spread slowly to create lush ground cover in shady areas.
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  Speaker 1: It's also deer resistant, So wild ginger that's an option
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  Speaker 1: that's something to think about for shady areas. Foam flower
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  Speaker 1: that's another excellent choice. Produces delicate spikes of white to
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  Speaker 1: pale pink flowers in spring. It's going to spread via
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  Speaker 1: runners and it's going to form really dense mats. So
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  Speaker 1: foam flower another way to go. Canada mayflower that's a
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  Speaker 1: native plant that spreads quickly fills in shadier spots where
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  Speaker 1: nothing else wants to grow. So there's three options right
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  Speaker 1: there you're going to see, And in fact, my mind
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  Speaker 1: first was drawn to the classics, the ones that we
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  Speaker 1: see all over the place, myrtle, lily of the Valley,
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  Speaker 1: and pacassandra. But each of these comes with some caution
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  Speaker 1: flags that I wasn't completely aware of until I started
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  Speaker 1: digging into this myrtle. For example, it will escape into
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  Speaker 1: woodlands and it's considered invasive lily of the valley that's
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  Speaker 1: toxic to people in pats, or at least there's parts
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  Speaker 1: of it that are toxic to people in pats and
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  Speaker 1: it's nearly impossible to remove once it's established. So that's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a negative Japanese pacissandra that's aggressive.
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  Speaker 1: It can harbor diseases like boxwood blight, and that is
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  Speaker 1: a serious concern here in Michigan, where it's been detected
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  Speaker 1: in Ottawa, Macsta and Oakland counties.
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  Speaker 2: So all of that.
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  Speaker 1: All of that baggage comes with some of those classics,
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  Speaker 1: So definitely something to think about as you're making your choice.
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  Speaker 1: If you love that pacissandra, look, there is a native
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  Speaker 1: alternative called Allegheny spurge behaves much better than pakissandra and
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  Speaker 1: it's going to give you a similar look. So those
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  Speaker 1: are some areas or some options for shady areas.
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  Speaker 2: If you've got sunny spots. Creeping time is a great option.
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  Speaker 1: Stays low, smells wonderful when you brush against it, it
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  Speaker 1: attracts pollinators. You can tuck it in between stepping stones
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  Speaker 1: where it softens hard edges. You know, that's a really
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  Speaker 1: great options. Creeping time. Creeping flocks gives you a wave
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  Speaker 1: of spring color, you know, pinks, purples, whites, all of that,
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  Speaker 1: and then it's going to settle into this nice tidy
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  Speaker 1: mat of green for the rest of the year. Now,
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  Speaker 1: ground preparation, let's talk about that before we move on
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  Speaker 1: to other things. Ground preparation, as you're getting ready to plant,
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  Speaker 1: is half the battle.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like a paint project.
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  Speaker 1: If the soil is compacted or full of weeds, don't
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  Speaker 1: just poke plants in and then hope for the best.
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  Speaker 1: You know, loosen the soil, mix in, compost if it's poor,
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  Speaker 1: clear out the weeds first. If you don't, your groundcover
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  Speaker 1: is going to be competing right away, and weeds tend
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  Speaker 1: to win those early battles. Now, once it's established, groundcovers
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  Speaker 1: do choke out weeds. You know, thick mats shade the
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  Speaker 1: soil and make it hard for weeds to sprout. But
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  Speaker 1: getting there takes time. In that first year or two,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna need patience and a little bit of weeding. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned weed blocking fabric as one of my plans.
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  Speaker 1: After digging into it, I kind of think it's probably
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  Speaker 1: not the best way to go for this. You know,
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  Speaker 1: in practice, I think it's going to cause more problems
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  Speaker 1: than it's going to solve.
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  Speaker 2: You know, weeds will still root.
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  Speaker 1: In the mulch that collects on top of this fabric,
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  Speaker 1: and the fabric if I put it in, is going
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  Speaker 1: to make it harder for ground covers to spread. So instead,
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  Speaker 1: I think the better thing is to do a good
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  Speaker 1: job prepping the soil, plant everything closer together than you
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  Speaker 1: might normally, and then mulch lightly until they fill in. Now,
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  Speaker 1: late summer to early fall one of the best seasons
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  Speaker 1: to plant here in Michigan. Cooler air isn't going to
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  Speaker 1: stress the plants, but the warm soil is still going
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  Speaker 1: to encourage root growth. Now, you want to get them
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  Speaker 1: in about three to five weeks before the ground freezes,
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  Speaker 1: water them well, keep watering until freeze up, and mulch
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  Speaker 1: them lightly. By spring, you should have roots ready for
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  Speaker 1: big growth. Now it all comes back to the right
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  Speaker 1: plant in the right place. So wild ginger, foam flower,
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  Speaker 1: Canada mayflower, or Allegheny splurge. They're splurge and Alleghany spurge.
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  Speaker 1: I'm spending your money when I'm talking about Alleghany splurge.
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  Speaker 1: When it's my money, it's just spurge. We cut that
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  Speaker 1: l off because we're not splurging on anything. We're not
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  Speaker 1: dropping any extra coins. So alleghany spurgs, all of those
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  Speaker 1: work well in shade for sunny spots. Go with creeping
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  Speaker 1: time or flocks. There are other options. Those are the
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  Speaker 1: only two that I had time to get to. All right, groundcovers,
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  Speaker 1: that's just a little bit of info. Do your own research.
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  Speaker 1: But it might be a solution for some problem areas
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  Speaker 1: in your yard. I think it is for mine. All right,
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  Speaker 1: let's shift gears right now and talk about a painted
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  Speaker 1: piano project that I ran into online, and we'll do
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  Speaker 1: that right after this. This is home in progress where
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  Speaker 1: the to do list is long, and that's all right.
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  Speaker 2: We're not crabbing at you. We're not gonna yell at you.
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  Speaker 2: That's how it is. It's how ours is too.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably supported by Repcollite Paints and Benjamin Moore because
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  Speaker 1: home projects are easier when you've got people you can trust.
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  Speaker 2: And we're back.
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Home in Progress sponsored by repco Like
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  Speaker 1: Paints and Benjamin Moore. And right now I'm on the
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  Speaker 1: phone with Patty Brummel from Midlife Revival.
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  Speaker 2: Patty, thanks for being here.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks Dan, thanks for having me. I really appreciate talking
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  Speaker 3: to you again.
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  Speaker 2: We had you on, Man, I don't know how long ago.
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  Speaker 2: That was a couple months ago.
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  Speaker 3: It was actually back in the winter time. I know that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh manime earlyive, I know this is older.
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  Speaker 2: I get Yeah, it just flies, time flies.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Mom always said that. Grandma always said that, and I
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  Speaker 1: always thought, oh, come on, it doesn't. No, it does,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it does. So anyway, way, long time ago, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we talked. We talked about a lot of different projects.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things you do a lot of different things.
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  Speaker 2: One of the.
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  Speaker 1: Things that I've seen because you've got an Instagram page, Facebook,
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  Speaker 1: your own website and stuff like that. But I see
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  Speaker 1: you mostly on Instagram. I think is where I encounter.
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  Speaker 1: You do a lot of furniture, refinishing, restoration, really interesting stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I would say it just kind of depends on the piece.
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  Speaker 3: I'm kind of starting to get into more of the restoration,
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  Speaker 3: but it's always it started as just refinishing, like with
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  Speaker 3: paint and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, and you started that like it was kind
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  Speaker 1: of a hobby, right that it was just kind of
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  Speaker 1: your fun thing, and then you had people start to
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  Speaker 1: see your pieces and say, hey, you should be ye
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  Speaker 1: selling this.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. I first started having people who were co workers
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  Speaker 3: of mine because in my previous life I was a
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  Speaker 3: registered nurse for over thirty years and kind of started
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  Speaker 3: dabbling in refinishing furniture when the kids got older and
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  Speaker 3: kind of getting into that empty nesting part of life.
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  Speaker 3: And so it was a great hobby. And yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: then I had people at work asking me would I
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  Speaker 3: like to refinish this or that for them? Just little pieces. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: just kind of snowballed from there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you do a lot of this. I've been
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  Speaker 1: following and one of the things, one of the pieces
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  Speaker 1: that I really really had a lot of interest in.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why it really struck me, but I
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  Speaker 1: really liked it. I really I can still picture it.
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  Speaker 3: What was that?
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  Speaker 1: It was the piano transform transformation that you did a
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  Speaker 1: while back.
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  Speaker 3: The recent, the recent piano, the blue piano, the blue piano, okay,
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  Speaker 3: the navy blue piano.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to know a little bit more, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't know that everybody out here listening has
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  Speaker 1: seen that. I'll put links in the show notes so
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  Speaker 1: you can check out the the pictures and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll put all of that for inspiration.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't mean I have to do something for you,
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  Speaker 3: just to inspire you to do.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, why don't we give that out right now?
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  Speaker 1: Because if they're listening and they want to check that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, some of the stuff out that we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about right now, they can do that while we're talking.
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  Speaker 2: So how do they find you?
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  Speaker 3: Instagram and Facebook. I am just known by Midlife Revival
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  Speaker 3: and if you google that quite often it shows up.
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  Speaker 3: I have a website as well, but that I don't
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  Speaker 3: use very much. But Instagram and Facebook, all the all
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  Speaker 3: the transformations I do are on.
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  Speaker 1: There, lots and lots of photos, and like you said, inspiration,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just give people some ideas. So I encourage
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  Speaker 1: you go check that out Midlife Revival on Instagram, Facebook.
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  Speaker 1: This piano, it's a navy blue piano, kind of an
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  Speaker 1: upright piano, right, It.
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  Speaker 3: Was a player piano actually, oh, a piano, and the
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  Speaker 3: client actually said it worked and it belonged to her mom,
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  Speaker 3: who has since passed, and she asked me to paint
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  Speaker 3: it navy blue.
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  Speaker 2: So she came up with the idea for the color
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  Speaker 2: and all of that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if I would have picked navy
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  Speaker 3: blue for a piano, but it works in her house
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  Speaker 3: and it's her piano.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that is exactly how it works.
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  Speaker 1: We've had colors, you know, customers pick colors in the
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  Speaker 1: store when you're working, and you think, well, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: that's certainly not for me, But it isn't for me,
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  Speaker 1: it's for you, so go for it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Well I told her she had to go
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  Speaker 3: to a repcal Light, she had to pick up Benjamin
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  Speaker 3: More paint color, and I would go from there. So
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  Speaker 3: she actually picked I want to say, it was deep royal. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: So I mean there's other navy blues I would have
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  Speaker 3: thought of, but that's the blue she wanted.
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  Speaker 1: So well, let's talk about the project, you know, kind
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  Speaker 1: of what what you went through, you know, what were
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  Speaker 1: the steps.
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  Speaker 2: You know, people like to hear how that all shook out.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so you get it. What kind of prep did
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  Speaker 1: you do to get ready to go with this?
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  Speaker 3: You're going to prep at the same way as you
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  Speaker 3: would do any type of painting project. Basically. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it can be intimidating because it's a big piece. And
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  Speaker 3: initially when I first did the first piano, the piano
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  Speaker 3: mover guy Ronnie, he took it all apart for me
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  Speaker 3: and I painted all these different parts pieces and then
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  Speaker 3: he put it back together. But I didn't know if
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  Speaker 3: I really liked it that way, so I would not
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  Speaker 3: recommend that. Plus it'd be very hard to figure out
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  Speaker 3: how to put it back together. So I just basically,
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  Speaker 3: you know, first I gave it a good cleaning. It
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  Speaker 3: definitely had had a lot of seen a lot of
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  Speaker 3: Pledge in its day, Pledge furniture polish, and just gave
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  Speaker 3: it a really deep cleaning with TSP, and then I
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  Speaker 3: scuff sanded it and then I did As I was
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  Speaker 3: doing all that, I started to see some little like
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  Speaker 3: Dancer in Days or thing like that, especially on the top.
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  Speaker 3: So I had reached out to her and asked her
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  Speaker 3: if she wanted me to, you know, fill them in,
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  Speaker 3: and she said, just do the best she can. So
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  Speaker 3: I did fill them in.
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  Speaker 2: Did you prime it? Did you use a bonding problem?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, yes, I primed it. Actually I did a
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  Speaker 3: clear coat primer because she wanted some distressing. And I
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  Speaker 3: debated whether to do like a gray primer, but I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. I just I've done that with Navy kitchen cabinets,
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  Speaker 3: and I just I don't know. I just didn't like
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  Speaker 3: it so much. So I just went with a clear
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  Speaker 3: shellac primer. And in the tricky areas, I just used
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  Speaker 3: the spray form. Spray form so that you can get
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  Speaker 3: in those, but otherwise you can roll it as well.
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  Speaker 2: And would you topcoat with I.
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  Speaker 3: Actually ended up using Benjamin More Advance in that deep
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  Speaker 3: royal color, I believe is what it was.
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  Speaker 1: So why did you go with the Advance? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of different products out there. Advance is
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  Speaker 1: a really unique product. It's kind of water borne, it's hybrid.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like flows out a little bit quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit like an oil based paint, drives a little
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  Speaker 1: bit lower but it so you like that flow ability.
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  Speaker 1: Do you use that on other things other projects? Is
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  Speaker 1: that a go to or is that a go to
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  Speaker 1: on this project?
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  Speaker 3: It's a go to on for sure, kitchen cabinets, and
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  Speaker 3: it just I don't know. It just kind of depends.
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  Speaker 3: I would like to say though that and I keep
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  Speaker 3: putting this plug out there. Benjamin More advanced, I would
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  Speaker 3: like them to bring back their matte.
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  Speaker 2: Finish, all right, But.
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  Speaker 3: Otherwise I know, but no one listens to me.
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  Speaker 2: No one listens to me either, at least we talk.
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  Speaker 2: That's something I know.
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  Speaker 3: Anyways, when I first started using it, they made it
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  Speaker 3: in a mat and they said they didn't get a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people requesting it, so at least that's what
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  Speaker 3: I've heard from talking to the paint experts.
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  Speaker 2: So you went with a satin, then, yeah, so I
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  Speaker 2: had to go.
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  Speaker 3: To the satin, which would the darker colors. There's kind
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  Speaker 3: of my concern. I always feel like it's a little
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  Speaker 3: too shiny with the dark colors. And I think we've
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  Speaker 3: had this conversation. When I did my daughter's kitchen, I
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  Speaker 3: started with the advance and with she had oak cabinets,
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  Speaker 3: and it was it was just too shiny. So we
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  Speaker 3: ended up to scuff X because they make a matt Yes,
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  Speaker 3: so I could have done either. Oh I know why.
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  Speaker 3: The other reason I did go with the advance is
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  Speaker 3: I only needed a quart size and scuff X did
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  Speaker 3: not does not make a quart size.
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  Speaker 2: That was Yeah, I believe that that is coming, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't know coming.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, Okay, So there that was my decision.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not buying a whole gallon. I
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  Speaker 3: don't need a whole gallon of this deep royal because
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I'll use it again, and she wasn't,
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  Speaker 3: so so I kind of go. I think I ended
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  Speaker 3: up doing. I did two really good coats because I
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  Speaker 3: scuff sand or not scuffs hand, but I do a
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  Speaker 3: fine sanding between them. Some areas ended up there was
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  Speaker 3: a little adhesion issue, and I really think it was
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  Speaker 3: pledge still even though I had cleaned. I had so
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  Speaker 3: I did kind of three coats, is what it ended up.
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  Speaker 1: Because you had a small area where there was a
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  Speaker 1: little bit appealing or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so gotta love that pledge. Yeah. We see that
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: on like paneling too.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: People will clean their paneling over years and years, you know.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know how often, but then they'll go to
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: paint it and yeah, it's tough to get it as
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: clean as you need to.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: You can, but you do run into some issues from.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Time to time. I don't know how I missed it, because,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: like I said, I do TSP and I mean I
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: do two cleanings too, So it was just a couple
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: of little surface areas up on the front and kind
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: of where the books would arrest it and stuff. So
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know. She must have really heavily pledged there
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: or something. The only thing I can figure out. Everywhere else,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: the adhesion was awesome, it was fine.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's shift from all of that how to part
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: of things just to inspiration itself. Now, I know you
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: didn't come up with the idea for this one.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: You know, this was from your your customer.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like it was maybe a month ago,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: maybe two months ago. I talked about American designer Sister Parish.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, talked about her and one of one
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: of her big ideas, one of the main things that
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: she stressed in her work is that contrast and contradiction
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: are really what make a space interesting, you know, having
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: elements that you know, maybe unexpected is another way to
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: explain it, and that, to me is really exactly what's
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: going on with this piano. You know, you don't expect
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: it to be the color that it is, and you know,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: really any color. There's a handful of colors that you
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: probably would think that's your go to piano color, but
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: anything outside of that really does start to be something unexpected.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Did you see the piano in the finish space? Did
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you get to see it?
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I actually followed the piano mover over there,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: and that's where I took pictures of it, because I
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: was like, this is the third time I've done a
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: piano and I didn't get to take pictures right right,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: So she was very gracious about and let me do
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: that once they had it all set up, and then
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: her little grandkids couldn't wait to get at the piano,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: so then they sat there and so yeah, yeah, so
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I did see it in the space.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: What did it do for that space?
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: So she put it against a white wall. It was
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: actually kind of a ship lap wall, and oh my goodness,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: it just popped on that wall. It was gorgeous. It
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: was absolutely gorgeous. And then she had a lot of
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: just kind of more neutrals in that living room area,
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: but she had some pillows that had the pops of
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: navy and stuff, so it really tied in really nicely. Yeah.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Well that's one of the things, you know, Let that
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: piece be the thing that's speaking, you know, don't fill
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the space with all lots of elements of that same color.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Use a lot of neutrals, use little pops of it.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: But that can really work. You know, what's your experience
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: as you're working with your customers, your clients and stuff.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: If they're picking the colors, I don't know how often
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: that happens. Sometimes you just find pieces and do them. Yeah,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: they're picking the Do you find that they're afraid to
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: use color bold colors in unconventional ways or do you
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: see people just jumping right in.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: I would say everyone that I work with is pretty
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: much leaning towards playing it safe and sticking with neutrals.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: But a neutral that I often do is black, so
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: and I mean I consider it a neutral in a way.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: So you don't see very many people branching out. How
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: do you feel about branching out?
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: It would depend on what it is, like, you know,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: with we just refinished this upstairs apartment, and I did
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: green cabinets, a very dark green cabinet. The color is
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Benjamin Moore Backwoods, and in such a neutral space it
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: is absolutely I love it. It's gorgeous. It just really
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: depends on the space.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: And so when you're choosing that green for those cabinets,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: was that the first time you were using a green
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: like that in that situation?
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, So what was that thought process? Like, I mean,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: were you nervous? Were you concerned?
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, because you're kind of pushing it a little
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: bit with Yeah.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I was, but I was again going back to contrast
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: and stuff. The walls were like simply white, I believe,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: don't quote me on all my colors. The floors were
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: feathered down, the wood floors, I should say we painted
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: the wood floors. So I already had two neutrals, and
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: I just felt like the cabinets would have gotten lost
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: amongst all of that, and green is one of my
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: favorite colors, and so I just brought in some darker
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: shades of greens. And Backwoods worked really good because there
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: was a lot of window light. And whereas I tried
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: it down in a first floor mudroom and it looked
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: almost black in there. So again you have to just
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: like you preach all the time too. You got to
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: get the colors in the space, put them on different walls,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: look at them at different times a day. I actually
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: what I like to do instead of I see people,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: you know, rolling it on walls. But I just took
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: a big board and I painted it. I did this
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: with my whites and off whites as well. Is the
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: ones I kind of had it narrowed down to. I
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: painted on a big board, and I just moved that
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: board around throughout the day to different walls so I
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: could just study it and you know, just like walk
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: in and go, oh yeah, no, I don't like it
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: on that wall. Oh yeah, I do like it on
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: that wall, or you know. So that's that's my little tip.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Do you often find that when you do that, that
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the color that you sampled on that board most of
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the time. Do you end up going with it or
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: do you run into Hey, there's a fair amount of
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: time where I realize I better make a shift and
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: find something slightly slightly different.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I kind of try to boil it down to just
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: a couple of colors, so I just it's either one
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: or the other. Usually I don't try to make it
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: too many options. By then when I buy the samples,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I'm too cheap. I don't want to buy twony sample colors.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: So that makes sense.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: But you definitely do find that your first instinct might
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: not be the color you want to go with.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, it's really true. You can see it.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: It will look different in your space, yes, and sometimes
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: you think it will.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah. In fact, like I have Shantilly lace here
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: in my house, and I absolutely love this color. But
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I tried that up there and it looked I don't know,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: it almost like pulled gray in that space.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: So now so much depends on you know, the lighting
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: in the space, the exposure, you know, what kind of.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Ye the light getting very to your exposure.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, I have rambled on and on about that, but yes,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: it was so interesting and it solved so many of
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: my problems, you know, things I should have realized ahead
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: of time. But wow, now you know, you know, a
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: color can look a little different. But the one that
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I talked about on the show, I cannot believe how different.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: You'd never guess it was the same color from one
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: room to another room. And it's just a Western exposure
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: versus an eastern exposure and yeah, the color completely changes,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: So definitely do that, you know, check out your color
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: in your space. What would you say to people who
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: are you know, you've taken some risks with color.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: You know you've seen this piano, how that.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Shook out and put it out if somebody's out there
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: and you said, most of your clients tend to be
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: a little safe, and being safe is fine, you know,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: if that's what's going to work in your space, and
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: sometimes pushing the boundaries a little bit can create something
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: that you know, like that piano. You could have made
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: that piano a normal piano color and it probably would
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: have looked just great. It would look fine in that space.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Now it jumps out at you. Now it's making a statement,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: It starts a conversation. It kind of owns that space
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: a little more.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: So.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, we could take furniture and put a nice neutral
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: or a nice safe color on it and it will
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: look great. But a color that's a little bolder or
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: a little stranger, a little unusual. Strange is the wrong
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: word to use, but an unusual color, unexpected color in
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: that space can take it to a whole, whole other level.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: What would you say to people who are you know,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: maybe just averse to that risk. They just don't want
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: to try it. Would you say anything to them or
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: would you just say yes, whatever you want is what
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I'll do.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: I love to see their space if I have to
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: make an opinion like that. Now, I did not see
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: her space, so you know, I just had to trust her.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, think about she'd waited two years to have
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: this done, so I think she'd had thought about it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Not time, yes, but I prefer to actually get in
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: a person's space if I am going to be recommending
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: something a little bit more bold. So it's just going
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: to depend on that.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I think for me, I guess it would all depend
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: It would depend on the piece, but one of.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: The depends on where you're putting it.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Where you're put But how big is it? You know?
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: And and I understand they're they're hiring you, and I
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: don't want to rehire you to redo it.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: That right, Well, that's I was going to say. That
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: could be a big thing now for myself personally, I
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: can repaint something.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: That's I'm thinking. I would gamble a little bit.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, I did gamble a little. I've never done this,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: but until this piece upstairs. I have a second Terry desk,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: and it was when I bought it many years ago
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: from Tulsma Furniture plug for Tulsma Furniture, I it was
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: like a hunter green. It was kind of a two tone.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: It had some wood on it. Well, the hunter green
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: just didn't work in our space and our condo now,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: so I did paint it another green. But it's more
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: just a very lively spring year green. I would say
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: a little sagey, but not. I mean it can pull
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: a little gray, but yeah, and I mean I love it.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: I love it because there's always hints of you know,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: either plants or things that I have in my pillows
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: that have that color.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: So no, we did that with a desk we bought
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: for probably one of the events that we ran years back.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: You know, we'd have color and design events.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Someday we'll do more, but in the past, I remember
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: buying this really inexpensive It was a child's desk. You know,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: it's an antique, but it's not like it's fancy. It's
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: a roll top desk, not fancy, very plain. But we
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: needed a small piece for this little set that we'd built,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: and we're looking at it and just, oh man, did
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: it need a ton of work, you know, because it
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: just lots of little stains and stuff. When we decided
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: let's paint parts of it, we wanted to keep some
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: of the natural woods. We kept the desk top, the
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: writing surface natural. And then we decided we're going to
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: paint other parts of it and we'll leave like the
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: frame of it, you know, the legs and stuff natural too.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Just the way it worked. That all worked really well,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: and we're trying to come up with a color, and
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: we did end up going with I believe in that one.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: We went with a yellow, and then we redid it
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: later a couple of years later and made it a green.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: But both of them were great. But what was really
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: cool is we took well and some people will just grown,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: but this was not a fancy, expensive antique piece. But
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: we got some textured wallpaper and a glip to a
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: wallpaper and we put that on the side panels.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: So it's nice.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: I've seen people do that.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And then with that yellow on it, or later
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: with the green on it, it really took that piece
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: that would have just been It would have been fine
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: if we'd have refinished it and kept it all wood,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: but man a whole different thing. And then by going
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: to a color that you just don't expect, I mean,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: you just don't see that very often.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: And so they say yellow is branching out a bit.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we had just done a segment on the
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: radio about Thomas Edis Thomas Jefferson's dining room. We always
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: thought it was Wedgewood blue, I think is what historically
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: everybody thought his dining.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Room was painted.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: But they did about ten years ago, research further research,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: and they found out no, his original color was chrome yellow.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: His dining room was like this really bright yellow with
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: white trim, And it was all about creating this entertainment
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: space where people would talk and feel energized, because that's
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: what he was after. So that's why we went with
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: that yellow, because it tied into something we had talked about.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: But blah blah blah, all of that to say, pushing
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the boundaries on that color. If we hated it, we
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: had on that piece. We had I think three drawer
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: fronts and the two sides and the very very top
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: of the dresser to repaint. So it was tiny, tiny amounts,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: less than half a quarter paint, So it was worth
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: pushing the boundaries just to see once what we came
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: up with and it worked. If it doesn't work, it's
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: not like it's the end of the world. But I
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: think what you gain from pushing sometimes sometimes is worth
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that risk. I mean, you know, that's just me. That's
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: how it shakes out, And if I was hiring you,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I would definitely be thinking maybe differently. I don't want
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: you to redo this twelve times until I get it right.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: But anyway, before I let you go, where can people
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: find you? We've already given that outlet's given out one
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: more time. And if you've got any other projects that
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: you'd like to, hey, check this one out, check that
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: one out.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: By all means send people.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Where them well again. I can be found at Midlife
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Revival on Instagram, Facebook, and I also have a website
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: midlife revival dot com. And boy, I've always got projects going.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: I sometimes think my people think that follow me, that
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: I just jump around, But I get sick of something
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: for a little better. I'm waiting for something to happen.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: But right now I'm actually doing custom work for a
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: client who just moved into a new build, and her
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: dining room table chairs and cabinet, hutch. We're looking quite
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: yellowly over time, so going to brighten those up. Going
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: very neutral on that. But other than that, I am
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: just working on painting inside my own workshop that has
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: been put on the back burner. I've found some cool
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: pieces and I just don't want like a normal workshop.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: I wanted to reflect what I do. So I've found
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: some old pieces. I have a lower kitchen cabinet that
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I painted, and I found a hutch top, just the
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: top and I got that put on top of that,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: and so to store on my paint and just working
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: on some other.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Just making your workshop.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: I'm making my workshop. Yeah, it's not a traditional guys
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: it's not a guys workshop. Let's just say we've got
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: beedboard with you know so, But that's slow going. It
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: just happens when I have some time in between projects.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: So it's a lot of fun to watch what you do.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: You chronicle it really well, you know, I like good.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: You know, you tell us what you're working on, you
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: tell us the steps.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: What other people do too, but you do it really well.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: It's really fun to travel along and watch so well.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I encourage everybody out there to check it out.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and check out my stories because I feel like
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: that is where you will learn the most. The page
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: the posts are really just the final product. So if
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: you want to follow the process, you know, learn yourself
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: what's going on, how to do something, that's where the
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: stories are great for. So if it's a big project
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: like when we refinished did this whole house renovation in
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: the last two years, I put highlights in Instagram for.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: That, definitely check it out.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Really interesting and yeah, you'll find things that will make
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: you think and get you move in and maybe inspire
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: you to make a big change in your own homes.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: And you don't have to hire Patty to do it.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: You can though she's out there.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: You can.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we can walk you through too if you've got
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: something that you want to tackle on your own. All right,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Patty Brummel from Midlife Revival, thanks for talking with us today,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. And before I wrap everything up
• 34:12
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