Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / Mega Edition: How Did A Monster Like Epstein Score The Deal Of The Century? (6/25/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:05One of the biggest issues when we're talking about travesties
- 0:08of justice within the world of Jeffrey Epstein is most
- 0:12certainly the Plea Deal. How he was able to acquire
- 0:17that Plea deal has been the source of much debate
- 0:22and of much contention. But the fact is he received
- 0:26that Plea deal, and that deal, well, there is no
- 0:29other deal like it. Nobody else ever has gotten a
- 0:34deal like Jeffrey Epstein. So ask yourselves, how is it
- 0:38that he is worthy of getting such a deal? What
- 0:41makes him so special? Well, when you're hanging out with
- 0:46the people he was hanging out with, and you're breaking
- 0:50bread with some of the most powerful and influential people
- 0:54in the world, you end up getting a deal that
- 1:00nobody else would ever ever get. And that's certainly what
- 1:05happened when Epstein scored this sweetheart deal down in Florida. Today,
- 1:12we're going to read an article from Noreen Marcus over
- 1:15at the Florida Bulldog dot org talking about how this
- 1:19is a cushy deal and how it's the only one
- 1:22of its kind in South Florida. Ever, So let's get
- 1:27into this article and let's see what Noreen Marcus has
- 1:32to say. Headline, Jeffrey Epstein's cushy federal deal was the
- 1:37only one of its kind in South Florida for at
- 1:40least three decades, and ever right when you look at it,
- 1:45there was no one who ever got a deal like this.
- 1:48But somehow this disgusting, gross child molesting son of a
- 1:54bitch comes out with the sweetest deal in the history
- 1:59of sweet deals. Now, remember how many larger than life
- 2:03criminals have been down in Florida, got all kinds of
- 2:06mob guys, drug narco professionals, you name it, and none
- 2:11of them caught deals like this. What makes Epstein so special?
- 2:16The sickly sweet deal that lawyers for serial sex offender
- 2:19Jeffrey Epstein worked out with South Florida federal prosecutors veered
- 2:24so far off the beaten path it blazed a path
- 2:28of its own. There is no doubt about that this
- 2:32is going to be studied in law classes and in
- 2:35the law profession for years to come. It's going to
- 2:38be a case study in not how to handle yourself.
- 2:43This is a deal that should have never been signed
- 2:45off on, and say it was Acosta right, Oh, it
- 2:48was all Acosta's fault. Then where was his boss to
- 2:51come in and say, look, you can't do this. This
- 2:53deal's terrible, my friend. There was nobody to step in
- 2:57and do that. You know why, because those on high
- 3:00Acosta's bosses, they wanted this deal to get done. Over
- 3:05the last twenty nine years, three non prosecution agreements npa
- 3:10NPAs the kind of deal Epstein got, went to big
- 3:13companies in the Southern District of Florida, according to a
- 3:17list compiled by the University of Virginia and Duke Law Schools.
- 3:22So only to a company, only to companies, not to
- 3:26personal individuals, and certainly not to unnamed individuals. How the
- 3:31hell do you even get that part that provision put
- 3:34in to a contract like this, To a non prosecution agreement,
- 3:40you would literally have to be using the Jedi mind
- 3:42trick like ben Kenobi. But since no company executive was
- 3:49accused of anything close to Epstein's level of depravity, his
- 3:53deal appears to be one of a kind. His informal
- 3:57criminal enterprise that preyed upon teenage girls had no name
- 4:01to include in the law school's corporate prosecution registry. Oh
- 4:05that's easy. Jeffrey Epstein's criminal enterprise. We can just call
- 4:09it that, right, or if you want, we can go
- 4:11a step further. The Epstein crime family. How about that.
- 4:15We love to slap monikers on people and call them
- 4:17crime families, right, Well, why not call these guys the
- 4:20same thing, because that's what they were. They were facilitating
- 4:25all sorts of crimes, money laundering, human trafficking, wire fraud, threats, solicitation,
- 4:35you name it, these people were into it. Out of
- 4:39one hundred and ninety Southern District federal cases that were
- 4:43resolved before trial from nineteen ninety two to this year,
- 4:48the list shows eighty six percent resulted in pleas, not
- 4:52including the Epstein affair, Only three of the cases, or
- 4:56one point six percent, ended with non prosecution agreements. Now, look,
- 5:02very rarely does the federal government give out a non
- 5:05prosecution agreement when they have you bent over a barrel.
- 5:10They love to get their convictions, don't they in federal court?
- 5:13And that you see it here. Eighty six percent resulted
- 5:17in plead deals. Eighty six percent. Eight out of ten
- 5:20people said, I can't beat the federal government at trial,
- 5:23so I'm just gonna plead out, not Epstein, he gets
- 5:27himself a nice non prosecution agreement that covers him, his
- 5:32co conspirators, the Core four, and any unnamed co conspirators
- 5:36as well. Now, however the hell they whipped that one up,
- 5:41I'll need it explain to me how the federal government
- 5:44and the state government signed off on it. They are
- 5:50rarer than Hen's teeth, and Hens have no teeth, said
- 5:53criminal defense lawyer Joel Hershorn. During a fifty three year career,
- 5:58he has yet to negotiate us single one. Think about that, folks, Okay,
- 6:03do you really think mister Hirshorn here is not a
- 6:06good lawyer? That he can't you know, he doesn't know
- 6:09his way around a courtroom. And on the flip side,
- 6:13you think Dershowitz is that good in the courtroom or
- 6:16left court or left Kowitz. Of course they aren't. You
- 6:20think it's just happened to be a coincidence that they
- 6:23had all these guys from Kirkland and Ellis working on
- 6:26that law team, guys like ken Starr with extreme political reach,
- 6:31because that's what you're paying for if you have the
- 6:34right amount of money, you're paying for influence. Whereas me
- 6:38or you, we're just looking to get a lawyer, and
- 6:40we hope we get a plea deal that doesn't send
- 6:42us to prison for the rest of our lives. A
- 6:46special deal for Jeffrey Epstein alone. The three companies on
- 6:50the Southern District's NPA list are Jakova now Wells Fargo
- 6:55accused of anti trust, Republic Metals Corporation accused of money laundering,
- 7:00and but Tom Holdings accused of securities fraud. The deals
- 7:04all followed some combination of hefty fines, long prison sentences
- 7:08for company executives, or cooperation with other probes. And that
- 7:14is the rub right. We know that Epstein was an informer.
- 7:17We know he was working for the government, and all
- 7:19these people that want to act like he wasn't explain
- 7:22to me how he always got off whenever he got
- 7:25caught doing something wrong. I call it the Whitey Bulger effect,
- 7:29and we see it with Epstein time and time again.
- 7:35But a cushy deal like the late Epstein's is virtually
- 7:39unheard of. The Use of an MPa against an individual
- 7:43is very rare, said Miami trial lawyer Marcos Yemenez, who
- 7:47was the US Attorney in South Florida from two thousand
- 7:50and two to two thousand and five. Sounds like a
- 7:53guy who would know what he's talking about. But nah,
- 7:56this is just this is your everyday behavior. And that's
- 8:00why it's laughable that the appeals court would look at
- 8:04this and just be like shrug their shoulders and be like, nah,
- 8:07you know, we're just gonna let this stand. It's an abomination.
- 8:15Yemenez told The Florida Bulldog he doesn't remember authorizing any
- 8:19kind of NPA. The law school's list in media reports
- 8:23confirm his recollection. I can't think of a baring of
- 8:27a bar to doing it. It's just that I've never
- 8:30seen it done in any other instance than for Epstein,
- 8:34said former Miami prosecutor Richard Gregory, who retired in twenty
- 8:38eighteen after forty two years with the Justice Department. He
- 8:43also worked in Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New Jersey, and Connecticut.
- 8:50So who's the one that's bullshitting you, folks? The people
- 8:54that want you to believe that this is just a
- 8:56common everyday occurrence that criminals get deals like this, or
- 9:01are you going to believe the actual facts that are
- 9:03in front of your face because the official narrative that
- 9:06they want you to suck down is just filled and
- 9:10riddled with holes protecting mystery co conspirators. Jeffrey Epstein's off
- 9:17the charts packed let him avoid federal charges that carry
- 9:21serious prison time. Prosecutors prepared but never filed, a fifty
- 9:26three page indictment describing his criminal activities with underage girls
- 9:31that could have put Epstein away for life, and we
- 9:34all know how that ended up. Ah, we'll punt it
- 9:36down to state they he'll get the he'll get the easier,
- 9:39softer charges. Unlike standard NPAs, his carefully crafted version even
- 9:45protected any potential co conspirators, prompting speculation about former Presidents
- 9:51Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, Britain's Prince Andrew, and other
- 9:55powerful men in Epstein's social circle. Well, we see that
- 10:01Andrew tried to use this clause and it didn't work
- 10:04out for him in New York. He got sued anyway.
- 10:07But criminally speaking, this is a big roadblock from justice
- 10:12being served in this case. None of them has been
- 10:16charged in connection with Epstein. Only his ex girlfriend, co conspirator,
- 10:20fellow child abuser, general all around scusbag and bipedal serpent
- 10:24Glene Maxwell is being prosecuted in New York for allegedly
- 10:28procuring young girls for him to abuse. Now we all
- 10:31know that it's not prosecuted anymore. She has been convicted.
- 10:36Gregory had nothing to do with the Epstein case and
- 10:39wouldn't speculate about a possible accomplices, but said he's amazed
- 10:43and astounded by the NPA clause granting immunity to hypothetical
- 10:48co conspirators. Again, you really think that Acosta has the
- 10:52power to sign off on something like this when Epstein
- 10:55from mansion to jail suicide. I have never heard of
- 10:58a case where an NPA extent did the people who
- 11:01haven't been investigated or charged yet, Gregory said, it just
- 11:04doesn't make sense if you were getting cooperation from someone
- 11:08who would provide you with leads to take a case
- 11:10to a much higher or significant person, or was opening
- 11:14up the case to a much broader range of criminal
- 11:17activity that might lead to this kind of agreement. He said, well,
- 11:21we know it didn't. This all happened because Epstein and
- 11:25his lawyers had friends on high. The Justice Department was
- 11:29littered with creatures who were friendly with Dershowitz and ken
- 11:33Starr and the rest of these guys. But how could
- 11:38an unknown co conspirator, barter for immunity from prosecution. Yet
- 11:44in exchange for extra extraordinary largess from the Feds, Epstein
- 11:48pleaded guilty to too low level state prostitution offenses and
- 11:54funded a victim's compensation pool. The government shut down a
- 11:58grand jury that might have outed others in his sex ring.
- 12:02Jeffrey Epstein got an eighteen month sentence, but served a
- 12:06little over a year, mostly working on work release near
- 12:10his Palm Beach estate. Ten years later, the wealthy financier
- 12:14Pedophile died in a Manhattan jail cell in an apparent
- 12:18suicide while awaiting trial for sex trafficking in New York.
- 12:22Acosta's poor judgment cost him. Look for me again, don't
- 12:26even I don't buy that for a second. His cowardice
- 12:29cost him. If my boss ever came to me with
- 12:32this kind of proposal and I had all of these
- 12:34girls that I had been investigating to see if their
- 12:38claims were true, and I had this evidence that it
- 12:40was zero chance that I'd be okay with this, I'd
- 12:43raise such a stink that I'd end up getting fired
- 12:46and all of it. Because there are some things you can,
- 12:49you know, look the other way. Not something like this.
- 12:54Signing off on the notorious two thousand and seven Epstein
- 12:57deal came to haunt Alex Acosta, the US attorney after Yemenez.
- 13:02Following publication of a Miami Herald series about the Epstein
- 13:06case that threw renewed light on his NPA, then Labor Secretary,
- 13:10Acosta resigned in two thy nineteen. Very convenient fall guy. Huh,
- 13:16they love their low hanging fruit. Yemenez said he agrees
- 13:20completely with a finding by DOJ regulators that the NPA
- 13:24was a flawed mechanism for satisfying the federal interest that
- 13:28caused the government to open up the Epstein investigation in
- 13:31the first place. The finding appeared in a November twenty
- 13:35twenty report by the Department's Office of Professional Responsibility. It
- 13:40concluded Acosta showed poor judgment when he approved the Epstein NPA,
- 13:45but didn't violate professional norms, largely because none apply. And
- 13:50you know, it's convenient, right that the emails during this
- 13:53whole entire time of Acosta to his superiors, Oh, they
- 13:56just went missing, right, Just a very convenient fact for
- 14:00the other people who were involved in the decision making.
- 14:03Here fall Guy Acosta. Right next to his name pencil.
- 14:08In fall, Guy Yemenez expressed reluctance to criticize his successor. Still,
- 14:17he said he agrees that Acosta exercised faulty judgment NPA's
- 14:22rob's victims of rights. Earlier this month, the discredited deal
- 14:27resurfaced when a federal appeals court ruled against Courtney Wilde,
- 14:31who says Jeffrey Epstein began molesting her when she was fifteen.
- 14:36The US Crime Victims' Rights Act says survivors must be
- 14:40notified about about and participate in negotiations between prosecutors and defendants.
- 14:47But prosecutors hid the Epstein NPA document for several months
- 14:52until he pleaded guilty, avoiding any objections to its lenient terms. Imagine,
- 14:58these guys hid this document when they're not allowed to
- 15:02do that by law, and still no repercussions. Nobody held responsible,
- 15:07and the deal is allowed to stand. Now, you tell
- 15:10me where the equitable justice is. But the Eleventh Circuit
- 15:16Court said the law supports victims only after charges are filed.
- 15:20Since Acosta agreed to the NPA and no charges were
- 15:24ever filed in that case against Epstein, Unfortunately, that was
- 15:28that allowing judges to protect victims rights earlier in the
- 15:31process would intrude on the prosecutor's discretion. The majority ruled
- 15:36in an opinion published on April fifteenth, the courts would
- 15:40be empowered to issue injunctions requiring consultation with victims. To
- 15:44name just a few examples before law enforcement raids, warrant applications, arrests,
- 15:51witness interviews, lineups, and interrogations. Judge Kevin Newsom wrote for
- 15:55the majority, I'll give me a break, Judge Kevin Newsom,
- 16:00wasn't he the same guy that was hanging out with
- 16:02Christian Everdell? Yeah? I believe so. Two dudes, just two
- 16:06guys hanging out. No conflict of interest. Wait what they
- 16:11both want to Harvard together? Come on, still no conflict
- 16:13of interest? Right right? Dissenters call the deal travesty. The
- 16:20seven or four decision from the full US Court of
- 16:23Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit may end Wild's thirteen thirteen
- 16:27year pursuit of justice, though her lawyers planned to an
- 16:30appeal to the US Supreme Court, we know that failed. Unfortunately,
- 16:36four Eleventh Circuit Court judges dissented. Those judges, all women,
- 16:40skewered the Epstein NPA and assailed the dramatic increase in
- 16:45all kinds of pre indictment agreements over the last fifteen years.
- 16:50Not one single dude, not one single man of those lawyers,
- 16:55I mean judges, dissented. What an embarrassment? And you mean
- 17:00to tell me not one of you guys thought what
- 17:02happened here was disgusting. Maybe you need to do more research,
- 17:06maybe you need better clerks. The majority's ruling leaves federal
- 17:12prosecutors free to engage in the secret plea deals and
- 17:16deception that resulted in the travesty here. Judge Frank mays
- 17:20Holl wrote, it also exasperates disparities between wealthy defendants and
- 17:25those who cannot afford to hire well connected and experienced
- 17:29attorneys to negotiate favorable deals for them. She wrote, So
- 17:34will there be another Epstein like travesty? I would hope
- 17:38that it never happens again, and I don't think that
- 17:42it will, Yeomenez said, folks, Look, how much more do
- 17:46we have to explain it? This was a travesty of
- 17:50epic proportions, and your courts, at every step along the way,
- 17:56have sided with Epstein his friends. And this discuss ass
- 18:00deal I'll leave you with that to think about for
- 18:05a little while, and as for me, well, I'll be
- 18:08back later on. If you'd like to contact me, you
- 18:11can do that at Bobby Capucci at ProtonMail dot com.
- 18:15That's Bobby cap you Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You
- 18:22can also find me on Twitter at Bobby underscore cap
- 18:28you Cci. The link that we discussed can be found
- 18:31in the description box. And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 18:36As you're all aware, we are at the Christmas break
- 18:39for the trial, so obviously there's nothing groundbreaking happening in
- 18:44the mornings or even in the evenings at this point.
- 18:47But that's okay because we're still going to be here
- 18:50adding some context, and we're going to do that today
- 18:54by talking about the Grand Jerry transcripts from Palm Beach. Now,
- 19:00there was a lot of talk a few weeks ago
- 19:03that this judge was going to release these grand jury transcripts,
- 19:08and that would have been a huge boost in the
- 19:11arm for transparency. We all know that whatever went on
- 19:16in that grand jury room in two thousand and six,
- 19:21it was not good, all right, Whatever was going on
- 19:24in that grand jury room based on that arrest was
- 19:29not up to par. And the fact that only one
- 19:32of those girls was able to give their story in
- 19:36front of the grand jury tells you everything you need
- 19:39to know about the prosecutors and about the whole entire
- 19:45scenario that unfolded this prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein. The original
- 19:53prosecution was legitimately one of the biggest travesties of justice,
- 19:59perhaps ups Ever, when you look at the grand scope
- 20:04of it all, and you look at the disgusting nature
- 20:09of his crimes and the wake of misery he left,
- 20:14I mean, it's hard not to look at it like that.
- 20:20And the fact that Barry Krisher and the State Prosecutor's
- 20:24office in Florida worked hand in hand with Dershowitz and
- 20:27Leftkowitz and the rest of Jeffrey Epstein's legal team to
- 20:32not only get him off, but to destroy his own witnesses,
- 20:36Barry Kirsher's own witnesses, meaning these girls, is just unbelievable
- 20:42to me. And you have this judge down there in
- 20:46Palm Beach, you know, one of the good old boys,
- 20:48one of the been around forevers, still mucking things up,
- 20:54still not interested in transparency. You would think, after all
- 21:00these years and all of the scrutiny over the Jeffrey
- 21:03Epstein case that some of these judges would wise up
- 21:06by now. But like I always say, they think they're
- 21:09feudal lords and these courtrooms are their fiefdoms and they
- 21:13can do whatever they want. And these lifetime elected, lifetime
- 21:19appointed judges bad news. Folks talk about people who are
- 21:23power hungry. Every now and then you'll run across one
- 21:26of these judges like this guy, and you just shake
- 21:29your head. But there's been a lot of them when
- 21:33it comes to the Jeffrey Epstein case. A lot of
- 21:37these judges, a lot of these people in positions of power,
- 21:40have failed these girls time and time again. And with
- 21:46this latest blow, this judge not going to release these transcripts.
- 21:51It's just another victory for the scumbags and just another
- 21:56hurdle in the way of those who are trying to
- 21:59bring those bags to justice. This morning, we have an
- 22:03article from the Palm Beach Post and the author is
- 22:07Jane Musgrave. Was the Jeffrey Epstein case intentionally sunk? Judge
- 22:13won't excuse me, Judge won't release secret grand jury papers,
- 22:18And again it just it's another blow to transparency. It's
- 22:24another blow to those of us who want the truth,
- 22:27and it just again throws up another curtain over what
- 22:35everybody perceives at this point is government malfeasans. You would
- 22:40think that they'd want to expose that, right, you would
- 22:43think that they'd want to put that on blast, But
- 22:45that's not how it works. They're going to cover your
- 22:49ass mode and they got to protect the other scumbags
- 22:52that they work with. And it's just such a dog
- 22:56and pony show at this point, and the illusion that
- 23:00there's a fair justice system, the illusion that there isn't
- 23:04a two tier justice system, is being shattered on a
- 23:08regular basis at this point. A Palm Beach County Circuit
- 23:14judge on Monday refused to release secret documents that could
- 23:17explain why a two thousand and six grand jury indicted
- 23:21serial child molester Jeffrey Epstein on a single charge of
- 23:25prostitution despite evidence that showed he abused more than a
- 23:29dozen girls at his Palm Beach mansion. Now let that
- 23:32sink in for those of you who aren't really completely
- 23:36up to date on the case. You know, those of
- 23:38you who have, you know, had a life for the
- 23:39last three years, this might seem like what the hell
- 23:44are you talking about here? How is that even possible?
- 23:46But this is what they've been dealing with, Meaning the
- 23:48survivors from the beginning, law enforcement has not been on
- 23:53their side. Law enforcement, in fact, a lot of the
- 23:57time has worked against them. And do you see it
- 24:00here again when you have this judge who makes the
- 24:05decision that these grand jury documents will not see the
- 24:09light of day, as if it's some sort of national
- 24:12security issue where nobody should ever see those grand jury documents. Now,
- 24:18I understand if there was a legitimate reason, a legitimate
- 24:22issue keeping those documents from the public, But there's no
- 24:25legitimate reason unless, of course, you're trying to cover for somebody,
- 24:29unless of course you're trying to protect your friends. In
- 24:37a ten page order circuit, Judge Donald Haffle rejected arguments
- 24:42by attorneys for the Palm Beach Post who pushed him
- 24:44to release the records, citing a rarely used state law
- 24:48that allows the secrecy of the grand jury to be
- 24:51pierced to further the interests of justice. And if this
- 24:55isn't a case where that hits home, I don't know
- 24:58what is these grand jury testimony should be the excuse
- 25:07me released They shouldn't be hidden from the public for
- 25:12all of these years, especially if it moves the interests
- 25:17of justice, and it certainly would, considering the non prosecution
- 25:20agreement is based on all of this, So to get
- 25:25rid of that non prosecution agreement, wouldn't it stand to
- 25:29reason that having these grand jury documents released would go
- 25:32a long way to making that occur. While Halfle noted
- 25:41the newspaper offered strong arguments, he said he was bound
- 25:44by the state's law. The court rules against the newspaper
- 25:48because the established and binding maxims of Florida law constrain
- 25:52it to do so, Halfley wrote. Halfly wrote, and again
- 25:57we know that that's not one hundred percent the case.
- 26:00If it promotes the interest of justice, as according to
- 26:03the state law in Florida, then the documents can be released,
- 26:06the transcripts can be released. But they don't have any
- 26:09interest in doing that. Him, the other judge that's involved
- 26:12in this, Krystal Marx, all of them had ties to
- 26:15Barry Krisher or other people involved in the case. That's
- 26:19how these things work with these bureaucrats. They're all friends,
- 26:22They're all going to the same company functions, and on
- 26:27and on. And on it goes. We've discussed it a
- 26:29lot here on this podcast. You're not buying the lawyer
- 26:33for what they're going to do in the courtroom. For
- 26:35the most part, you're paying for a lawyer for the
- 26:40connections they have outside of the courtroom, for the access
- 26:44they can get you to the prosecutor's office. Why do
- 26:48you think in a situation like Maxwell's she hires somebody
- 26:52like Christian everde ex prosecutor has a lock with the
- 26:56SDNY knows all of the prosecutors. They're all probably chummy.
- 27:00They probably go to barbecues together, you know what I'm
- 27:03talking about. While state law allows the release of grand
- 27:09jury records to further the interest of justice, he said,
- 27:13it is clear the legislature intended that exception to be
- 27:16used only in pending criminal or civil cases. So just
- 27:22because this happened a while back, and now Epstein's dead,
- 27:25let's just forget it ever happened. We'll just move on.
- 27:27And you know what it is, what it is. Sorry,
- 27:29the girls who are victimized, no justice for them. It's
- 27:33basically what this judge is saying. And I mean it
- 27:37shouldn't shock anybody considering you know what we see these
- 27:40judges do on a regular basis from the bench here
- 27:43in America. But you would think that something like this,
- 27:47with all of the interests surrounding it, all of the
- 27:51questions that still need to be answered, that if you
- 27:55were a judge, you'd say to yourself, you know what,
- 27:57in the interests of justice, in the interests of moving
- 28:00the truth forward, I'm going to release these transcripts. And
- 28:05that's what the law is put on the books for.
- 28:07But unfortunately this judge didn't want to interpret the interpret
- 28:11it that way. Instead, the newspaper advocates a more expensive
- 28:15interpretation of the term. He wrote, the newspaper wants the
- 28:19ability to publish the materials and reference them in its reporting,
- 28:23and also to make the materials available to the public. Yeah,
- 28:27that's how this works, judge. Okay, the public is interested
- 28:30in a case that's probably one of the most corrupt
- 28:33of all time. So yeah, there is going to be
- 28:37a bit of hesitancy to trust you. There is going
- 28:40to be a bit of cynicism when it comes to
- 28:42court rulings, and the fact that you want to keep
- 28:46this stuff away from the public is just going to
- 28:49feed into conspiracy theories and outlandish thoughts the government plays
- 28:57a huge part in all of that. They could stem
- 29:00and stop a whole bunch of the conspiracy stuff with
- 29:03a whole lot of different topics if they just stop
- 29:06their bullshit. But they don't want to ever be transparent.
- 29:09They want to keep everything private. Everything's a national security issue,
- 29:13isn't it, And that's what they'll say. Or if you're
- 29:17looking to get information about something, say like Jeffrey Epstein's
- 29:21first alleged suicide attempt, what they'll say is the information
- 29:24is unavailable because it's still part of an ongoing investigation,
- 29:28and that ongoing investigation has to do with Tartaglioni. So
- 29:33they'll just run you in circles for as long as possible,
- 29:37and if somehow you do get some Freedom of Information
- 29:40Act information from them, it'll be heavily redacted or partial.
- 29:45You'll never get the full story like the newspapers. Attorneys
- 29:53Halfl said the transcripts could help answer troublesome questions about
- 29:57why the politically connected multimillionaire peediphile escape serious punishment. Some
- 30:02claim that then State Attorney Barry Krisher was improperly influenced
- 30:06by Epstein's high octang defense team. I agree with that.
- 30:10I definitely think he was. When you go back and
- 30:12you look at all of the documentation, and you look
- 30:15at the reporting, and you look at how things broke,
- 30:19it's very obvious that he wasn't working as an advocate
- 30:23for these survivors, and neither was the Prosecutor's Office of
- 30:26Florida or a hell, the federal Prosecutor's office either. Because remember,
- 30:31while Acosta was the one who was the direction man, right,
- 30:36the guy who was considered the quote unquote boss on
- 30:40the ground, he had people to answer to as well.
- 30:43He's just a mid level bureaucrat. He don't make decisions
- 30:46like this. He had to kick that up the chain
- 30:49to move Mukzi and the rest of them. So they
- 30:53all failed from the top down, from the federal government
- 30:56all the way down to the state, and now all
- 30:59the way back to this judge. Absolute failures a top
- 31:03of absolute failures. It may very well be that the
- 31:09disclosure of Jeffrey Epstein's grand jury records could reveal the
- 31:13fair treatment did not occur, and that mister Epstein might
- 31:16have escaped appropriate punishment through some failing of our justice system.
- 31:20Haffel said, Yeah, well, how about releasing the documents then
- 31:27instead you'll just sit on them right like a dragon
- 31:29hoarding its gold. Post hasn't decided whether to appeal, but
- 31:36he said state law can't be ignored on a whim
- 31:38or to satisfy the public's curiosity. The court's interpretation of
- 31:42the scope of the state law end of the phrase,
- 31:45furthering justice is governed and constrained by the established rules
- 31:49of statutory construction, Halfley wrote. Attorneys for the Posts said
- 31:54they were reviewing the order and had not yet decided
- 31:58whether to appeal. Hope they do. I mean, I know
- 32:02it's an extra cost on them to appeal stuff like this,
- 32:06and you know, the attorney fees get to be a
- 32:08bit excessive, but you would think that in the interest
- 32:12of justice, in the interest of transparency, that they would
- 32:17release this documentation. And really what it comes down to
- 32:22is this judge's interpretation of the law. That's all it is.
- 32:29But he said state law can't be ignored on a
- 32:31whim or to satisfy the public's curiosity. In a statement,
- 32:38a comptroller and Clerk of the Courts, Joe Abruso, said
- 32:41that while he hired a top media lawyer to represent
- 32:44his office, in the lawsuit, he wasn't against the newspaper's request.
- 32:49While Florida's statute is clear on its prohibition of releasing
- 32:52information from grand jury cases, I want to be clear
- 32:55that I have absolutely no objection to releasing grand jury
- 32:59information in the EPSOM case if directed by the court.
- 33:02A Bruso said, so what the comptroller is saying. Look,
- 33:06I'll release this information, but I have to be directed
- 33:08to do so by the court. That's the only way
- 33:11that I can release this. And once again it goes
- 33:15back to the judges. These guys running around like their
- 33:18Taiwan lanister in the courtroom. He hired Shane Voight, a
- 33:26Tampa attorney who won a one hundred and forty million
- 33:29dollars verdict against Gawker on behalf of retired professional wrestler
- 33:33Hulk Cogan and has represented others in fights against news outlets,
- 33:37to represent the office. During a hearing on October twenty second,
- 33:43Void argued that if half approved the newspaper's request, it
- 33:47would open the floodgates for others to do the same. Well,
- 33:51so what open the floodgates? And then on a case
- 33:53by case basis, decide what should or what shouldn't be released.
- 33:58Why is that so difficult? Oh? Is it to cause
- 34:00extra work for the clerks? God forbid? I mean, are
- 34:06we supposed to just slow everything down and you know,
- 34:10oh well, let's wait on things here because you know,
- 34:13we don't have enough time or enough people. I don't
- 34:17even understand what any of it means. The floodgates will open. Well,
- 34:22if they're legitimate requests, then maybe the floodgates need to
- 34:26be opened. Halfle said he could craft the narrow order
- 34:31that would assure the clerk wouldn't be inundated with demands
- 34:34for grand jury records. Still, he said, after reviewing the law,
- 34:38he determined the documents must remain secret. State Attorney Dave
- 34:43Ahrenberg declined to comment on Halfle's decision. While the paper
- 34:48initially named him in the lawsuit, he was dropped after
- 34:50he claimed he didn't have the records. Executives of the newspaper,
- 34:54which is owned by Gannet Gannet Company, said they were
- 34:57disappointed by Halfle's decis yeah, you would think so. Right.
- 35:01As a newspaper organization, the idea is to get as
- 35:05much information to the public as possible. Let the public
- 35:09decide and what better way to do that than to
- 35:13provide raw data such as transcripts. I don't need the middleman, right,
- 35:18provide us with the transcripts, provide us with the information
- 35:21that we need, and let us decide what's going on
- 35:23here as the public. But no, they'll keep everything hidden.
- 35:29And then what he'll do is he'll cite some obscure
- 35:31law here. Oh well, it'll cause a flood of other requests.
- 35:35And all of it is nonsense. Whenever I hear any
- 35:38of this stuff, all I hear is no, we don't
- 35:40want to be transparent. No, you can't know the truth.
- 35:44That's basically what I hear every time they start in
- 35:46on the nonsense. While the Post appreciates the court's consideration
- 35:53of the issues, we respectfully disagree with the legal conclusion
- 35:57that public access to the Epstein grand jury material is
- 36:00not warranted under the circumstances, said Marrable Perez Wadsworth, President
- 36:05of Gannett News USA Today Network and publisher of USA Today.
- 36:10It is our right and responsibility to report all aspects
- 36:13of this case, and we will continue to diligently seek
- 36:16the facts in our pursuit of transparency. Can argue with
- 36:21that and props to them for doing it. I mean,
- 36:25is it too much to ask to have some transparency
- 36:29or as the public, to have the proper information in
- 36:32a case that is so important. Post Executive editor Rich
- 36:40Christy echoed those sentiments. For sixteen years, the Post has
- 36:44been driven to report on the heinous acts of Jeffrey
- 36:47Epstein for two reasons, justice for the victimized girls and
- 36:51accountability for our readers. He said, today's ruling by Circuit
- 36:56Judge Haffl, while disappointing, does not deter us from our
- 37:00mission of furthering justice for Epstein's young victims. The Post
- 37:04will always fight to shine a spotlight wherever it is
- 37:07needed to expose the actions or in actions of those
- 37:10charged with serving and protecting the public period. He concluded, Hey,
- 37:14I'll tell you what, I'm all for that, and I'll
- 37:17be right here with you, ride and shotgun as far
- 37:20as trying to get these transcripts, because it's a big deal.
- 37:24It's a huge deal, and I can't express enough how
- 37:29important that non prosecution agreement is in protecting these people. Still,
- 37:34and all of this plays such a huge part in
- 37:36that the ruling was a blow to efforts to unravel
- 37:42the sordid case that grabbed international attention. It also came
- 37:46on a day that a federal jury in New York
- 37:49began deliberating whether Epstein's longtime girlfriend co conspirator Glein Maxwell
- 37:55recruited in groom teens for his pleasure. The fifty nine
- 37:58year old British socialite conspirator General all around scusbag bipedal Serpent,
- 38:03faces a lengthy prison term if connected if convicted of
- 38:07multiple charges in connection with the sex trafficking scheme. During
- 38:11the October hearing, the newspaper's attorneys argued that the case
- 38:14was unique. More than fifteen years has passed. Epstein is dead,
- 38:18so none of the information can be used against him.
- 38:21The sixty six year old financier pedophile who counted former
- 38:25President Bill Clinton and Britain's Prince Andrew his friends, hung
- 38:29himself allegedly in a Manhattan jail cell in August twenty
- 38:33nineteen while awaiting trial on dozens of sex trafficking charges
- 38:37in New York. Again, he's dead. None of this information
- 38:43can be used against him or anything like that, so
- 38:45I don't understand how it won't be released. Now. Look,
- 38:49if he was still alive and there was a chance
- 38:51that this information could be used or all right, I
- 38:54get it. I might not agree with it, but I
- 38:56get it. I don't agree with it, and I don't
- 38:59get it. In this instance, the guy's dead, he's rotting.
- 39:02It's time for transparency. A dozen girls said they were
- 39:10sexually abused, only one testified as part of a twenty
- 39:14nineteen investigation titled the First Failure. Sources familiar with the
- 39:18grand jury proceedings told the Post that while more than
- 39:22a dozen teens told Palm Beach police that Epstein molested them,
- 39:26only one, a fourteen year old girl, was called to testify.
- 39:30And this is what I talk about a lot in
- 39:32reference how only one girl was called to give testimony,
- 39:35and how it flashes shades to what we saw here
- 39:38in the Maxwell trial with only four girls being called. Well,
- 39:43I understand the scopes a little bit different. It's just
- 39:46for those of us who have been through this already,
- 39:49it's concerning to see the sources said. Christian's top lieutenants
- 39:56villified the teen. Instead of focusing on the abuse she
- 39:59sa effort at the hands of the wealthy pedophile, they
- 40:02quizzed her about her social media activity, which included references
- 40:06to boys and drinking. Her posts on her MySpace page
- 40:09were given were given to Kursher by Harvard law professor
- 40:14Alan Dershowitz, one of Epstein's top flight attorneys, And that
- 40:18was the strategy. Then, it's the strategy now, and it'll
- 40:21continue to be the strategy until these juries wake up
- 40:25and start convicting these people. We all know that the
- 40:29girls were absolutely destroyed by not only the authorities, but
- 40:34by Epstein's attorneys. Oh they're talking to boys, they were
- 40:38smoking weed, they drank on their MySpace page. Really, let
- 40:43me ask you, how many of you out there, as
- 40:45young teenagers didn't do any of those things. I know
- 40:48we all did. I know I did. If you're gonna
- 40:51base my life on what I did as a young man,
- 40:54then boy, I'll tell you I'd be in big trouble.
- 41:01Her alleged treatment by state prosecutors could explain why grand
- 41:05jurors indicted Epstein on the lone prostitution charge instead of
- 41:09multiple counts of child molestation that were sought by the police.
- 41:16The prostitution charge ignored the tender age of Epstein's accusers
- 41:19and the fact that teens under the age of eighteen
- 41:22couldn't legally consent to sex. We've talked about that from
- 41:25the jump too. How can you even call a girl
- 41:28under eighteen a prostitute when they can't even consent to sex?
- 41:31How is that? Even logical legal experts say prosecutors will
- 41:38tremendous influence over grand jurors who aren't skilled in the law. Cynically,
- 41:43some embrace a time honored maxim that a prosecutor, if
- 41:46he desired, could indict a ham sandwich. And this is
- 41:50a fact as well. You know, the grand jury rooms
- 41:54are places where indictments definitely come down at a huge swell.
- 42:00The statement you get a ham sandwich indicted at a
- 42:04grand jerry certainly rings true because it's something that a
- 42:08lot of people talk about who are in the know.
- 42:13After his death, scores of young women came forward publicly
- 42:16describing how Epstein sexually assaulted them at his home in
- 42:19Palm Beach, his penthouse apartment in Manhattan, his ranch in
- 42:23New Mexico, and his private island in the Virgin Islands.
- 42:27Some said he forced them to have sex with his
- 42:29celebrity friends while aboard his private jet, the Lolita Express.
- 42:34Many teen victims were from Palm Beach, County. Like teens
- 42:38from Royal, Palm Beach and John I. Leonard High Schools,
- 42:41many were allured to Epstein's homes with the promise of
- 42:44being paid two hundred dollars to give him a massage.
- 42:47He greeted them wearing little more than a towel. He
- 42:50offered to pay them more to disrobe, let him fondle them,
- 42:54and to have sex. Boy, what does that all sound like?
- 42:57Sounds like a bunch of testimony we just heard, doesn't it.
- 43:00Imagine this testimony mirrors that testimony. And if they would
- 43:04have actually done their job during this first arrest and
- 43:08had more than one of the victims give their testimony
- 43:13to the Grand Jerry, a lot of this could have
- 43:15been stopped. Perhaps the girls, some from hardscrabble backgrounds, were
- 43:23promised careers in high fashion, college educations, or other perchs
- 43:28that were beyond their reach. The Grand Jerry marked the
- 43:31beginning of when the case spun out of control. Angry
- 43:35at Chrishier's handling, at his agent's angry at Chrishier's handling
- 43:39of his agency's investigation, Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Ryder
- 43:43went to the FBI, Ultimately in his secret deal. South
- 43:47Florida attorney Alex Acosta agreed to shelve the fifty three
- 43:51page federal indictment against Epstein if he would plead guilty
- 43:54to state prostitution charges. And now, remember, it's not just
- 43:58a costa here. He's the scumbag with no spine, no
- 44:01doubt about it, and he deserves his infamy for his role.
- 44:05But he wasn't the one who made the decision. He
- 44:09might have been the one who you know, filed it
- 44:11up the chain of command, but he didn't okay it,
- 44:14that's for sure. As part of the so called non
- 44:19prosecution agreement, Krisher added a charge of solicitation of a
- 44:23minor for prostitution. Federal prosecutors insisted on the second charge
- 44:28because it would force Epstein to register as a sex offender.
- 44:31How that work out in New Mexico? Oh, that's right.
- 44:33He didn't have to register there. Because he knew he
- 44:37planned all of this, he took precautions. On June thirtieth,
- 44:45two thousand and eight, Epstein plea pleaded guilty in Palm
- 44:49Beach County Circuit Court to both prostitution charges. He served
- 44:53thirteen months of an eighteen month sentence in a largely
- 44:56vacant wing of the county stockade. He was given liberal
- 44:59work relief privileges. He was allowed to spend up to
- 45:02twelve hours a day, six days a week working at
- 45:05a private foundation he created months earlier. The fallout from
- 45:09what one state prosecutor described as the deal of the
- 45:12century was far reaching, if delayed, And not only was
- 45:17Epstein out, according to some of these other accusers, he
- 45:20was abusing them while he was out on this work
- 45:23release program. Fantastic job done by the federal government. Huh,
- 45:27fantastic job done by the Florida state authorities. After Epstein
- 45:34was charged in New York, a Costa resigned as former
- 45:37President Donald Trump's labor secretary when questions were raised about
- 45:41his involvement in crafting the non prosecution agreement. Before his resignation,
- 45:45a Costa sought to blame Krisher. He claimed he was
- 45:48forced to clean up a mess Krisher created when the
- 45:51state prosecutor refused to file serious charges against Epstein. Acosta
- 45:56pointed out that Krisher originally offered to allow Epstein to
- 45:59plead guilty aggravated assault, serve no jail time, and have
- 46:03the felony record A raised if he complied with the
- 46:05terms of his probation, that was unacceptable, Acosta said during
- 46:09a nationally televised news conference. So basically, it's a point
- 46:15um game. Right, you did it, I did it, he
- 46:17did it, she did it. And in reality, what they
- 46:20do is they cause enough confusion then that nobody's held responsible.
- 46:28Krisher responded that Acosta was attempting to rewrite history. In
- 46:32a prepared statement, he said, I can emphatically state that
- 46:35mister Acosta's recollection of this matter is completely wrong. A
- 46:40federal investigation in twenty twenty found that Acosta place too
- 46:43much trust in Krisher. A two year state investigation completed
- 46:47last year concluded that Krisher had little input into the
- 46:51nonprofit prosecution agreement and found no wrongdoing. State investigators were
- 46:56denied access to the grand jury proceedings. So not only
- 47:02has the public locked out, they locked out the state
- 47:04investigators who were investigating wrongdoing. Here in the FDL report, Yeah,
- 47:10nothing to see here, folks, keep on moving. Everything is
- 47:13just fine. We're all fine. After Epstein died, authorities in
- 47:21the US Virgin Islands worked with those who were administering
- 47:24his estate to set up a fund to compensate his victims.
- 47:27They wrapped up their work in August after paying slightly
- 47:30more than one hundred and twenty one million to more
- 47:32than one hundred and thirty five people, according to the
- 47:35New York Times. Look, this is a situation that, obviously,
- 47:39as you can tell here, has been going on for
- 47:42quite some time, and there was hope that this judge
- 47:45was going to release these grand jury documents. Well that's
- 47:49not going to occur. So the battle continues for transparency, folks,
- 47:54and we'll continue to report on it and we'll continue
- 47:57to talk about it until there's some movement and we
- 48:00finally get a glimpse behind the curtain. All Right, folks,
- 48:07that's gonna do it for me today, and I'll be
- 48:09back later on obviously with a evening update and expect
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