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• 0:26
  Speaker 1: You had these folks who are way out in the
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: wilderness in the northeast corner of New Mexico.
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: There is one hope for the nation.
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: And the world, and that is to believe in me.
• 0:39
  Speaker 4: There was nothing he could say that they would disagree with.
• 0:43
  Speaker 5: I am the second Coming of Christ.
• 0:46
  Speaker 6: He took two of the wives from two of the
• 0:48
  Speaker 6: men in the church.
• 0:50
  Speaker 7: Freely admitted they had with Wayne Bett.
• 0:53
  Speaker 8: I am fully yielded to him, and they left their
• 0:56
  Speaker 8: kids and their husbands.
• 0:58
  Speaker 7: One was his son's wife. He was sleeping with a
• 1:01
  Speaker 7: son's wife, and Wayne would tell them it is God's will.
• 1:05
  Speaker 8: He molested everybody's hearts and minds. He destroyed a lot
• 1:08
  Speaker 8: of families.
• 1:10
  Speaker 7: There's starting to be these admissions to potential bocts with children.
• 1:14
  Speaker 9: He's my husband. So you're twelve years old and you
• 1:17
  Speaker 9: have a husband.
• 1:18
  Speaker 10: Yes, I'm I'm love.
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: The world thinks that you're hypnotized.
• 1:25
  Speaker 3: But what you have done, your great crime, is that
• 1:33
  Speaker 3: you have believed me.
• 1:38
  Speaker 11: I am glad, I'm all might seery guilty.
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  Speaker 2: Amen.
• 1:44
  Speaker 12: Amen.
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: The world was going to end on October thirty first.
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: That was the day that everybody was counting down towards.
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  Speaker 4: They were dooms I called. They believed that the end
• 2:16
  Speaker 4: of the world was coming.
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  Speaker 7: We are no longer.
• 2:22
  Speaker 13: They all came out and sang songs and they waited
• 2:26
  Speaker 13: for it.
• 2:27
  Speaker 7: To happen, and it didn't happen, but it got them attention.
• 2:36
  Speaker 14: It was like a magnet, and I got pulled into
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  Speaker 14: the Lord r Rightishness, which was run by a man
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  Speaker 14: named Wayne Bent.
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  Speaker 3: But the sign of the Son of Man has appeared,
• 2:47
  Speaker 3: and it will get brighter and brighter and brighter until
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  Speaker 3: the whole thing is burned up, the whole world destroyed
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  Speaker 3: by fire.
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  Speaker 2: There is one.
• 3:06
  Speaker 3: Hope for the nation and the world, and that is
• 3:15
  Speaker 3: to believe in me.
• 3:21
  Speaker 4: Broke away from the Seventh Aird and Cist Church. His
• 3:24
  Speaker 4: wife's just left him. So he decides, why don't we
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  Speaker 4: go off and start.
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  Speaker 14: Our own group, And we were drawn into it, and
• 3:34
  Speaker 14: so that's how it got started.
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  Speaker 8: From the very first day that I was part of
• 3:42
  Speaker 8: this group. Jesus was supposed to be coming in like
• 3:44
  Speaker 8: six months, and I was seventeen, So why get an education, why,
• 3:54
  Speaker 8: you know, be successful at anything? Why? Because Jesus was
• 4:00
  Speaker 8: coming and then we would all go to heaven. So
• 4:07
  Speaker 8: at first we were in Idaho and then Wayne ended
• 4:10
  Speaker 8: up trading that property for property in New Mexico.
• 4:16
  Speaker 4: You're driving on this dirt road for forty miles and
• 4:20
  Speaker 4: eventually you come to this gate.
• 4:22
  Speaker 1: You had these folks who are way out in the
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  Speaker 1: wilderness in the northeast corner of New Mexico, and it
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: looks like a little house on the prairie.
• 4:30
  Speaker 4: They were growing their own crops, they were living off
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  Speaker 4: the grid. They were homeschooling their kids.
• 4:35
  Speaker 7: The name that we generally referred to the people out
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  Speaker 7: there was either the Lord of the Righteousness Church or
• 4:42
  Speaker 7: the Strong City compound or call.
• 4:45
  Speaker 4: He didn't object to the word cult, he said, I
• 4:49
  Speaker 4: don't object to that. It comes from the word culture.
• 4:53
  Speaker 14: It was very coldish. The church owns all the property.
• 4:57
  Speaker 14: What we did is we turned our paycheck over to
• 5:00
  Speaker 14: the church, gave them the whole check, and then they
• 5:04
  Speaker 14: in turn bought everything we needed. And we couldn't leave
• 5:07
  Speaker 14: because he owned everything, you know, and so we were
• 5:14
  Speaker 14: stuck there.
• 5:15
  Speaker 4: There's no going back. It's all or nothing. And so
• 5:18
  Speaker 4: all you want is for this guy to love you.
• 5:23
  Speaker 4: They're pussy in his hands.
• 5:26
  Speaker 14: Wayne went out for one of his walks out in
• 5:29
  Speaker 14: the woods, so he was gone for several days and
• 5:31
  Speaker 14: he came back, and that's when he told us that
• 5:34
  Speaker 14: God had entered him.
• 5:37
  Speaker 5: This is the revealing, the appearing of Christ. This is
• 5:41
  Speaker 5: what's happening now.
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  Speaker 7: In me.
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  Speaker 5: And in everyone who believes my testimony. I am the
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  Speaker 5: second coming of Christ.
• 5:55
  Speaker 6: And that's when everything changed.
• 6:00
  Speaker 14: When he spoke as God, it was God, this is
• 6:04
  Speaker 14: what we were told to believe, and his word was word.
• 6:08
  Speaker 3: I want to tell you the truth. Heaven has come
• 6:13
  Speaker 3: down here. Just like Lucifer was in heaven a long
• 6:20
  Speaker 3: time ago and didn't see it, you have been in
• 6:24
  Speaker 3: heaven and haven't seen it, but you're seeing it now.
• 6:29
  Speaker 8: My mom came over one day and she's like, who
• 6:33
  Speaker 8: do you think Wayne is? And I was like, Wayne,
• 6:40
  Speaker 8: What she was getting at is that you know he
• 6:42
  Speaker 8: was God in the flesh.
• 6:44
  Speaker 3: Jesus, the Kingdom of God is in your midst and
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: is within you. So the whole world is making this
• 6:56
  Speaker 3: decision that you're making right in this room. For if
• 7:00
  Speaker 3: they hear my voice and respond to it, they have
• 7:09
  Speaker 3: the light shining in them. But if they will not
• 7:13
  Speaker 3: hear me, they are not God's sons.
• 7:19
  Speaker 14: He changed his name from Wayne Band to Michael Travesser.
• 7:24
  Speaker 5: Professor is where we live here. This is an area
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  Speaker 5: called Travesser, and Michael is interpreted one who is like God.
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  Speaker 5: And in the scriptures Michael was always a deliverance angel.
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  Speaker 5: And so it's the work that I've had to do here.
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  Speaker 14: Of course, Seventh Day advertisby that Michael the Archangel is
• 7:49
  Speaker 14: Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 15: They say that you're Michael and Michael the Archangel, that
• 7:53
  Speaker 15: they're one and the same.
• 7:55
  Speaker 14: Yes, So he was calling himself Christ by calling himself Michael,
• 8:01
  Speaker 14: and you didn't want to say anything against it because
• 8:05
  Speaker 14: you get kicked out and then you leave with nothing.
• 8:08
  Speaker 14: So we were living a life that was in denial
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  Speaker 14: and we were trapped.
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  Speaker 4: There were very internet literaate. They had two of three websites.
• 8:24
  Speaker 14: He said, we have to master the Internet, and he
• 8:27
  Speaker 14: put a lot of the church's talent and resources into that.
• 8:34
  Speaker 14: I think we probably spent a couple of million dollars
• 8:36
  Speaker 14: on our marketing. It brought in some good sized donations.
• 8:40
  Speaker 14: We ended up with a church in Costa Rica, we
• 8:43
  Speaker 14: had a church in Europe, and I think at one
• 8:45
  Speaker 14: point we had.
• 8:47
  Speaker 6: Close to four hundred members worldwide.
• 8:50
  Speaker 4: And when he realized that these people were hanging on
• 8:54
  Speaker 4: his every word. That there was nothing he could say
• 8:57
  Speaker 4: that they would disagree with then, and he could do anything,
• 9:02
  Speaker 4: and he could twist this to his own ends.
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  Speaker 3: Jesus has a new name now, it's Michael. Michael is
• 9:14
  Speaker 3: the Angel of deliverance. So the question is do you
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  Speaker 3: believe me and do you have the answering chord within
• 9:26
  Speaker 3: yourself that these things are true?
• 9:29
  Speaker 7: And these followers you got to understand, these weren't just
• 9:31
  Speaker 7: uneducated people. There were people with master's degrees, doctor degrees.
• 9:37
  Speaker 16: And today I was sitting here and I just had,
• 9:41
  Speaker 16: I just think, a very very great love for Michael,
• 9:48
  Speaker 16: and it was just so strong I g almost cry,
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  Speaker 16: and I just it's just been so wonderful to have
• 9:55
  Speaker 16: those things on me, I think Father for.
• 10:01
  Speaker 7: And so it was kind of what was next, And
• 10:04
  Speaker 7: that's where this vision that came out to everybody. The
• 10:08
  Speaker 7: next component the seven Messengers or seven Virgins.
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: You see me, Everyone is seeing me, and I have
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: come down from heaven and I have come with all
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: of my holy angels.
• 10:48
  Speaker 14: Also, there was stuff in the scripture about the seven virgins.
• 10:53
  Speaker 14: He took that literally and manipulated everything to make it
• 10:57
  Speaker 14: happen so that he could say.
• 10:58
  Speaker 6: I'm the guy.
• 11:00
  Speaker 5: My instructions were to do as I was asked.
• 11:04
  Speaker 14: He took two of the wives from two of the
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  Speaker 14: men in the church, and they became his two witnesses.
• 11:09
  Speaker 6: So he was.
• 11:10
  Speaker 14: Technically married to him, and they were just hung on
• 11:12
  Speaker 14: him everywhere they went.
• 11:14
  Speaker 5: It wasn't a secret.
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: This was not done in secret, and that's why we've
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  Speaker 3: made this movie.
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: Who are you?
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  Speaker 5: I told you I'm Michael's wife.
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: What is your name?
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  Speaker 9: My name was Amian. What are you.
• 11:36
  Speaker 5: A captive of this co leader that is introvessor and
• 11:42
  Speaker 5: he won't let you go?
• 11:43
  Speaker 17: That's right, It's probably more like I won't let him go.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I love you, Michael.
• 11:59
  Speaker 7: You can see in videos they kind of sat at
• 12:02
  Speaker 7: his beck and call freely admitted they had with Wayne Bett.
• 12:08
  Speaker 18: I am willing to let him bring me to be
• 12:10
  Speaker 18: naked and unashamed so that his son can come into
• 12:14
  Speaker 18: the very depths of my being. I am fully yielded
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  Speaker 18: to him.
• 12:19
  Speaker 9: Who are you, Anya, your besser?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 12:24
  Speaker 9: What are you my witness to the appearing of Messiah?
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  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: Are you help?
• 12:32
  Speaker 9: Captive?
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  Speaker 19: Here?
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: And you can't get away?
• 12:35
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 12:37
  Speaker 18: That's very funny.
• 12:41
  Speaker 9: What would you like to ask me? How is it
• 12:44
  Speaker 9: that you're so beautiful? That's my question.
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  Speaker 8: Indeed, I knew both of the ladies. I knew their families.
• 12:55
  Speaker 8: They're my friends, and they left their kids and their husbands.
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  Speaker 9: How do you feel your mother?
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  Speaker 17: Being one of the witnesses, It's been really painful to
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  Speaker 17: have my family broken up, and it's like the consummation
• 13:08
  Speaker 17: took my mom away from me. It's it wasn't an
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  Speaker 17: easy thing. But when I look at her, and when
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  Speaker 17: I see how happy she is and how much she
• 13:17
  Speaker 17: loves Michael, it's like it makes it all worth it.
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  Speaker 14: I remember the husband of one of them. He would
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  Speaker 14: go out on the gravel road and I would see
• 13:27
  Speaker 14: about to shake it his fist at the heavens, so
• 13:30
  Speaker 14: angry at God.
• 13:31
  Speaker 9: Why why?
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  Speaker 6: Why did Wayne take my wife away from me? He
• 13:36
  Speaker 6: was so angry, so lost.
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  Speaker 9: Father is asking too much.
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  Speaker 12: Not only is he taking my wife, but now he
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  Speaker 12: is asking Michael to make love to her. I have
• 13:48
  Speaker 12: been willing, reluctantly to submit to my crummy circumstances. Father
• 13:54
  Speaker 12: was going to have his way.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: Men who've been married for decades remained even after Wayne
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: took their wives or their wives went to him, however,
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: you want to see it, and Wayne would tell them
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: it is God's will and you are being tested.
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  Speaker 12: I could offer no explanation as to why I was
• 14:16
  Speaker 12: doing this thing, giving my wife and the.
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  Speaker 9: Mother of our child to Messiah. I was simply following
• 14:22
  Speaker 9: the father's inner promptings.
• 14:24
  Speaker 8: Wayne said that he came to divide families, right, and
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  Speaker 8: so pretty much everybody left their husbands. He destroyed a
• 14:35
  Speaker 8: lot of families, a lot of kids.
• 14:42
  Speaker 9: Some people call it adultery.
• 14:43
  Speaker 17: Yeah, I know what the earth view of it looks like.
• 14:46
  Speaker 17: It looks like Michael committed adultery. But I know that
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  Speaker 17: he didn't because he followed his instructions and.
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  Speaker 9: I believe him.
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  Speaker 10: Everybody was google eyed.
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  Speaker 6: All the women were google eyed over him.
• 14:57
  Speaker 7: One was his son's wife. He was sleeping with his
• 15:01
  Speaker 7: son's wife.
• 15:04
  Speaker 8: Wendy, his daughter in law, became one of Wayne's wives.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: Jeff was, by the way, a former cop until he
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: brought into his dad's message that his dad was the
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: son of God. That's part of the test, right. He's
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: going to take these women away from their husbands and
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: then he's going to dare them to leave, and to
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: say that this isn't ordained by God, and he's going
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: to say this is killing me as well. It's killing
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: your wife, it's killing me, it's killing you. But your
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: pain isn't any more than mine or theirs.
• 15:37
  Speaker 14: My marriage with Lilian was, to actually believe it or not,
• 15:39
  Speaker 14: was the very lash marriage that dissolved there. We just
• 15:44
  Speaker 14: never ever in our whole marriage, our experience, but we
• 15:46
  Speaker 14: never had crosswords, never a fight, And for me to
• 15:49
  Speaker 14: have flash my wife is it was just a horrible thing.
• 15:55
  Speaker 14: Then he started doing the nude healings with the underage kid,
• 16:01
  Speaker 14: the skin on skin ceremonies.
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: You know, that was when.
• 16:06
  Speaker 14: I couldn't live with that, and that's when I made
• 16:09
  Speaker 14: the decision.
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: I got to get out of there.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Remember, I'm responsible for you here, I am there. You are?
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: What's on your heart? What do you see.
• 16:41
  Speaker 10: That you're beautiful?
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: Wayne Bent would talk about that he had more authority
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: than a doctor, than a rabbi to heal and that's
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: where some of the children that got involved in this case.
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: They were talking about this idea of wanting to be
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: closer to God.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: You, I love you.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: I wanted to hear it. Thank how that comes out
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  Speaker 2: of here and I love you. That's why I'm here.
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: There's starting to be these admissions to potential focts with children.
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: They are legal names at the time. Lakeisha and Ashley.
• 17:41
  Speaker 9: What's your earthly name?
• 17:43
  Speaker 18: Keisha are twelve.
• 17:46
  Speaker 9: And what's the new name father's given you? That mean daughter?
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: They weren't shy about it. They talked about what they experienced.
• 17:56
  Speaker 9: What is Michael to you?
• 17:58
  Speaker 10: He's my husband?
• 18:00
  Speaker 9: Your husband? Seeing you're twelve years old and you had
• 18:03
  Speaker 9: a husband, Yeah, what does that mean?
• 18:07
  Speaker 10: It means to go one with him?
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: Lakeisha talked about you know, it came to eurn a
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: message in July of two thousand and six. She came
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: in the middle of the night, approached his trailer, asked
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: to come in, asked to lay naked with him where
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: she said that she was healed by being skinned to
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: skin with God.
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: That's when I said, why isn't someone saying something, Why
• 18:33
  Speaker 8: isn't someone doing something like this is wrong? They're little girls,
• 18:40
  Speaker 8: he's an old man. Will they call it a healing ritual?
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  Speaker 20: No?
• 18:50
  Speaker 8: If something is wrong, it's wrong. And if I think
• 18:54
  Speaker 8: something is wrong, I'm going to stick up for what's right.
• 18:57
  Speaker 8: And so I just went with him to the sheriff.
• 19:01
  Speaker 13: When I spoke with the girls, it was to talk
• 19:03
  Speaker 13: to them about possibility of testifying in trial. I actually
• 19:07
  Speaker 13: was a little more willing to tell her story. Lakeisha
• 19:11
  Speaker 13: also was, but she was more defensive of Wayne Bent.
• 19:16
  Speaker 13: Lakeisha was, you know, insistent that Wayne Bent is Jesus,
• 19:21
  Speaker 13: is the Messiah, and that anything he did or didn't
• 19:24
  Speaker 13: do was okay with her.
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  Speaker 10: When I looked at him, he wasn't the way I
• 19:30
  Speaker 10: saw him before. He was different. Who I saw was Jesus.
• 19:37
  Speaker 10: He wasn't the person I saw before. He was Jesus.
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  Speaker 10: And when I walked out the door, and all I
• 19:43
  Speaker 10: could do is cry because it was so touching and sweet.
• 19:48
  Speaker 10: To me, I've never had it happen before. He said
• 19:53
  Speaker 10: that Father opened my eyes to.
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  Speaker 13: See the acts they did were the result of suggestion.
• 20:00
  Speaker 13: And that's another way of saying grooming, And that's another
• 20:03
  Speaker 13: way of saying brainwashing or indoctrination, at.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Least to me.
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  Speaker 10: One thing I know is that Father told him to
• 20:14
  Speaker 10: do it, and I know that I know that he
• 20:17
  Speaker 10: wouldn't have done it if Father didn't tell him.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: To the world thinks that you're hypnotized, But what you
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: have done, your great crime.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Is that you have believed me.
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: So grand jury was convened in Clayton, New Mexico. Wayne
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: Bent didn't deny what happened.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: We'd like to talk with you about those charges, if
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: you wanted to talk with us.
• 20:58
  Speaker 21: With Lakeisha, there was a connection, that connection you said
• 21:02
  Speaker 21: it was, but you were both naked together, So what
• 21:05
  Speaker 21: kind of connections there there?
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Put my hand on her sternum, never touched breasts, never
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: touched private parts, legs, but never touched any parts of
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: any of them. So they say that you did, Are
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: they like, well, I just didn't. When they say that
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: you did, are they like did Lakeisha? Say that?
• 21:32
  Speaker 22: I'm asking you?
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: When they say that that did happen? Are they like,
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: well I don't. I don't have any thought about that.
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  Speaker 21: So when they say that, if if they if any
• 21:49
  Speaker 21: of them said I touched them on the breast, it
• 21:52
  Speaker 21: just did not happen. Well, mister Benson, to be honest
• 21:56
  Speaker 21: with the unbelieve no, I don't explain you to I
• 21:59
  Speaker 21: mean about touching his girls.
• 22:01
  Speaker 20: But there's something about how with tiners.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: Like naked in your bed that obviously is I don't
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: know it would do.
• 22:09
  Speaker 16: You agree with?
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: That's wrong, No, not when God commands it.
• 22:16
  Speaker 13: Wayne Bent's attitude in his grand jury testimony was always
• 22:22
  Speaker 13: those are healing ceremonies. The girls came to me with
• 22:26
  Speaker 13: their own free will. No one forced them to be here.
• 22:30
  Speaker 13: I had contact with them, but never in a way.
• 22:35
  Speaker 13: He believed that the only law that was applicable with
• 22:37
  Speaker 13: God's law, And if God told him to lie down
• 22:40
  Speaker 13: naked with little girls, then he's just following God's law.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: The world promises you many things, but it gives you nothing,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: and I give you everything.
• 23:02
  Speaker 13: Our case was always very simple.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: It's very simple.
• 23:05
  Speaker 13: The law of New Mexico says you do not touch
• 23:07
  Speaker 13: a child on an intimate part.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: The leader of a New Mexico sect scene here appearing
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: for a court hearing, claims to be the Messiah.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: He's accused of being appropriately touching three underage female followers.
• 23:19
  Speaker 15: Is an innocent man who's being crucified by those who
• 23:21
  Speaker 15: have an agenda against him.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: You were talking a lot about innocence in there. Are
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: you innocent?
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir and tell us.
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  Speaker 7: Do you think you've got a fair shakedown today?
• 23:32
  Speaker 14: Yeah?
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  Speaker 19: Now, mister Ben, are you going to continue not eating
• 23:35
  Speaker 19: or in the present time?
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: Is it a fast or is it a pose? It's
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: not a hunger strike, okay.
• 23:43
  Speaker 15: And the work God has given my father to do,
• 23:45
  Speaker 15: he has been at times required by God to come
• 23:48
  Speaker 15: into close physical contact with people. Sometimes he touches people
• 23:53
  Speaker 15: to heal them of a physical or spiritual problem. On
• 23:57
  Speaker 15: a few rare occasions, and only at the request of
• 23:59
  Speaker 15: the person who is to him, he has allowed them
• 24:01
  Speaker 15: to remove their clothing. This case is not about, as
• 24:08
  Speaker 15: a state would have us believe. It's about removing a
• 24:13
  Speaker 15: cult later the state once out of the way. It
• 24:17
  Speaker 15: is about crucifying someone the public finds offensive.
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: It was the biggest high profile case that we had
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: had in Taos, perhaps ever.
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: It was a Fiashgo.
• 24:36
  Speaker 14: It was a public fiashgou Masai own trial. It was
• 24:41
  Speaker 14: just awkward to be there and witness that.
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: He had his whole tribe around him, and one of
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: them was my mom. She disowned me at the trial.
• 24:55
  Speaker 14: As soon as I walked up to they all turned
• 24:57
  Speaker 14: around and face the other direction shunned me. One of
• 25:01
  Speaker 14: my best frien answers there. He looked at me and said,
• 25:04
  Speaker 14: I never knew you and just turned around and just
• 25:07
  Speaker 14: broke my heart.
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: The only thing we really worried about is is you
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: know there could be somebody on the jury that just
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: had that idea of freedom of religion. It was going
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: to be this was lawful freedom of religion.
• 25:22
  Speaker 20: Religions have practices, and they had the free right to
• 25:25
  Speaker 20: practice the religion. But when they break the law, that
• 25:28
  Speaker 20: is not practicing the religion, that's a crime.
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: Get religion out of your mind. Wayne Bent wasn't being
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: prosecuted for his beliefs. He was being prosecuted for the
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: harm that he did to these children. Defense spent, you know,
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: a good portion of the trial talking about the voluntariness
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: of the children coming to them in New Mexico under
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: the age of sixteen. They can't give consent to that
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: act with a sixty year old man.
• 25:58
  Speaker 22: Either one of them is going to take you that anything.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Occurred.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: And what mister Bent is charged with is criminal.
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: Contact.
• 26:14
  Speaker 20: In wher the state would call Miss houssare.
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: The parents. They were angry, They they were followers of
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: Wayne Bent, I think going on twenty one years. They
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: didn't want their their daughters to lay naked with him.
• 26:28
  Speaker 20: Do you believe that Michael influenced your daughters to lay
• 26:31
  Speaker 20: naked with him?
• 26:33
  Speaker 23: In a subtle way. Yes, what do you mean by s? Well,
• 26:38
  Speaker 23: they didn't outright say come lay naked with me. There
• 26:42
  Speaker 23: was posts that said you need to be naked with God,
• 26:46
  Speaker 23: and if he's Messiah, he's God.
• 26:51
  Speaker 20: Thank you.
• 26:54
  Speaker 9: Do you'd trust Michael? I do, but I don't.
• 27:00
  Speaker 20: If you feel he had influence over your girls.
• 27:03
  Speaker 24: Yeah, you also said you can't trust your youngest daughter.
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: Why is that?
• 27:10
  Speaker 25: Mm, because I feel like that as soon as she
• 27:14
  Speaker 25: turns eighteen, she's gonna go back out there and Michael
• 27:17
  Speaker 25: will probably sleep with her. I'm sorry, I did catch
• 27:21
  Speaker 25: the end of the day, and Michael will probably sleep
• 27:22
  Speaker 25: with her.
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: Initially, Lakeisha wasn't going to testify, and I privately met
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: with Lakeisha. I told her, you tell us anything that
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: you want to say.
• 27:36
  Speaker 10: I told him that it was strongly on my heart
• 27:39
  Speaker 10: to lay naked with him, and that I wanted it
• 27:43
  Speaker 10: to be skinned to skin. I told him I need
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: I want something deeper. I want something.
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: I know it's hard to explain. Yeah, so you're talking
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: to Michael. You tell him what is on your heart
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: and what happens next.
• 28:11
  Speaker 10: Michael was quiet for a little while, and then he
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: said you may, and then he asked me, are you afraid?
• 28:23
  Speaker 10: And all of a sudden I realized he really meant it,
• 28:28
  Speaker 10: and I excitedly told him, you mean right now and
• 28:34
  Speaker 10: take my clothes off and get in bed with you,
• 28:36
  Speaker 10: and he said yes, And so I asked him, I said,
• 28:43
  Speaker 10: but what about my parents? And he told me, well,
• 28:49
  Speaker 10: they said that they trusted me.
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: At that point.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Did you take your clothes?
• 28:55
  Speaker 9: Yes?
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: What was Michael wearing at the.
• 28:58
  Speaker 10: Time, Nothing, I don't think. Yeah, he was not wearing anything.
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: Lakeisha's testimony with some of the most powerful testimony I
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: had in my career as a prosecutor. Did you ever
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: tell anybody that he put his chest on your chest?
• 29:18
  Speaker 10: Yes?
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: And did that happen?
• 29:22
  Speaker 10: He did put his chest on me, but he did
• 29:26
  Speaker 10: not put it directly on my breast.
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: Why do you give us that clarification?
• 29:35
  Speaker 10: I don't remember Michael ever touching my breasts, and this
• 29:39
  Speaker 10: is one reason why I know he didn't lay on
• 29:44
  Speaker 10: his chest directly on me.
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: So, okay, you had this interaction with Michael. How are
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: you feeling at this time?
• 30:15
  Speaker 10: Did I love Michael?
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: You're on other statement, request a five minute recess. We
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: had to have a five minute recess. Where she just
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: broke down, crying, said, but you know I love him.
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: I love him. It wasn't like a parental love. It
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: was something untoward. We didn't try in any way to
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: to limit Lakeisha's testimony. We wanted them to know that
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: Wayne Bent, you know, had total control of them.
• 30:48
  Speaker 18: Do you want to go home?
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 30:51
  Speaker 24: Now if you go home, are you in any danger
• 30:54
  Speaker 24: from Michael Wayne Bent?
• 30:57
  Speaker 17: No?
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Pie with you know?
• 31:00
  Speaker 19: Okay?
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: Thank you?
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: We have nothing to.
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: Ashley. She was different than her sisters. Her sister was
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: still in full full belief, but Ashley was angry at
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: the time.
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: Did you tell Michael you were nervous?
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: Yes?
• 31:16
  Speaker 9: Okay?
• 31:17
  Speaker 11: And and Ashley, why why were you nervous?
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: Because I was scared?
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: Okay, when you were when you were in Michael's bedroom?
• 31:31
  Speaker 9: Did he kiss you yes? Did he kiss you on
• 31:34
  Speaker 9: the lips, yes? Okay.
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: Did he kiss you anywhere else?
• 31:39
  Speaker 16: Yes?
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: And I know it's difficult.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: Where did he kiss.
• 31:42
  Speaker 17: Him on the rest?
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: I want you to be very clear for the jury.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: When when did I touch you?
• 31:52
  Speaker 22: Did he touch any of the parts that are covered
• 31:55
  Speaker 22: by the on the stuff on your put no?
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Sure?
• 32:00
  Speaker 24: Yes?
• 32:09
  Speaker 9: Would you please.
• 32:09
  Speaker 19: State your name for the record?
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Wing bent.
• 32:13
  Speaker 24: At any time or at any point, did you apply
• 32:17
  Speaker 24: any touch to any intimate private.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: Parts of Ashley Sayer?
• 32:23
  Speaker 24: No, ma'am, are you very clear about that given the
• 32:26
  Speaker 24: encounter that you had with her that day?
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: Very certain?
• 32:30
  Speaker 24: And as to l s on the thirty first day
• 32:32
  Speaker 24: of July two thousand and six, did you apply any
• 32:37
  Speaker 24: touch anywhere on her body that would be considered an
• 32:42
  Speaker 24: intimate part of her body?
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: No, ma'am, thank you. Nothing further.
• 32:52
  Speaker 20: On that night, where you dressed when Lakesha.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Was there when she came into the room. Yes, I
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: was in bed.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: It was a hot summer night and I just had
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: my white undershorts on in the bed and that's all
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: I had on when she came.
• 33:09
  Speaker 20: Do you recall whether you allowed her to come into
• 33:12
  Speaker 20: your bedroom?
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: I did allow her to come in.
• 33:17
  Speaker 20: You never told her, you can't, you know, not to
• 33:20
  Speaker 20: come in my bedroom and get undressed.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: I really stay away from telling people what to do.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: I'm not their director, I'm not their dictator. I'm not
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: their controller. I've known Lakeisha since she was a baby,
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: and I've always taught the children follow your heart, do
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: what God tells you, don't follow me, And so coming
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: against her like that would be impossible for me to
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: do because it would be against my fundamental, realmous beliefs
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: for people to follow God according to their own conscience.
• 34:06
  Speaker 20: You didn't have a concern that a young girl wanting
• 34:08
  Speaker 20: to come in your bedroom in the middle of the
• 34:10
  Speaker 20: night and unclothe herself. There wasn't anything in your mind
• 34:13
  Speaker 20: that went off and said, well, this is wrong.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: Oh no, I didn't have any thought that it was wrong.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: My thought was that this could be troubling. And here,
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: I am.
• 34:29
  Speaker 20: Can you stand up and show the jury how you
• 34:31
  Speaker 20: put your hand on her surname?
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: In Lakeisha's case, it was straight up and down like
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: this if I put my hand on the sternam of
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: somebody clothed. I'm not always so careful where I put
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: my hand, but in her case, I was being exceptionally
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: careful not to entering between any kind of with her.
• 35:08
  Speaker 20: Would actually have any reason. You heard her testimony correct? Yes,
• 35:14
  Speaker 20: And do you agree with it?
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: I think it's basically true.
• 35:19
  Speaker 20: Okay. So she said that you kissed her on the lips?
• 35:24
  Speaker 20: Is that true?
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: I don't remember that, but it could be true. It's
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: something I would.
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: Do, Okay.
• 35:30
  Speaker 20: She also said that you kissed her on her breast here.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: No, she In an earlier interview, she it was pointed
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: out the clavical area. It was I never touched any
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: fleshy part of the breast.
• 35:47
  Speaker 13: He believed that he was going to explain himself away
• 35:50
  Speaker 13: to that jury. He gets to go after it's all
• 35:52
  Speaker 13: said and done and say I got up there. I
• 35:58
  Speaker 13: was the tireless, fearless defender of God's word and man's laws.
• 36:04
  Speaker 13: Decided to convict me and send me to prison, much
• 36:08
  Speaker 13: like they decided to convict Jesus and send him to
• 36:11
  Speaker 13: the cross.
• 36:13
  Speaker 11: This case is not about religion. It is not about
• 36:18
  Speaker 11: making a determination if mister Bent's beliefs are correct, are wrong,
• 36:24
  Speaker 11: if they're better than anyone else's beliefs. This case is
• 36:27
  Speaker 11: about mister Bent's misusing his trust and authority over.
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: These two young girls.
• 36:35
  Speaker 19: He used his position of authority to cause these girls
• 36:40
  Speaker 19: to come to his room so lay naked, and while
• 36:47
  Speaker 19: they laid naked, he committed criminals contact.
• 36:54
  Speaker 22: This is my new BFF.
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: Let me tell you why.
• 37:00
  Speaker 22: Because the state has to prove criminal.
• 37:06
  Speaker 18: Contact of them.
• 37:10
  Speaker 22: He would have had to touch intimate hearts of the body,
• 37:16
  Speaker 22: and both girls got on the stand and I said,
• 37:19
  Speaker 22: did he touch you anywhere on your body if you
• 37:23
  Speaker 22: were wearing a bikini that would have been covered by
• 37:26
  Speaker 22: the bikini, And the girls said no.
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: The jury did take their time in arriving at a verdict.
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: They deliberated two days.
• 37:48
  Speaker 20: Whatever the verdict is, I expect that there to be
• 37:50
  Speaker 20: ordered in the quorum and the court. UM don't want
• 37:53
  Speaker 20: any outbursts of any sort. I understand that there will
• 37:56
  Speaker 20: be some noise, but let's keep the noise to minimum
• 38:00
  Speaker 20: and let's conduct ourselves accordingly.
• 38:04
  Speaker 26: Dat New Mexico County of Chaos District Court Datay Mexico
• 38:08
  Speaker 26: Visus Wayne Bent. We find the defendant Wayne Vent not
• 38:12
  Speaker 26: guilty of criminals contact of a miner's charged in count one.
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: They didn't find him guilty of the Lakeisha count. They
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: had a holdout that just said freedom of religion.
• 38:22
  Speaker 10: We find the.
• 38:23
  Speaker 26: Defendant Wayne Bent guilty of criminal contact of a miner
• 38:26
  Speaker 26: is charged in count two.
• 38:28
  Speaker 13: The outcome was guilty on the criminal contact as it
• 38:31
  Speaker 13: applied to Ashley, and the two counts of contributing to
• 38:36
  Speaker 13: the delinquity of a minor.
• 38:38
  Speaker 26: We find the defendant guilty of contributing to the delinquency
• 38:41
  Speaker 26: of a minor is charged in count three. We find
• 38:45
  Speaker 26: the defendant, Wayne Bent, guilty of contributing to the delinquency
• 38:48
  Speaker 26: of a minor is charged in count four.
• 38:51
  Speaker 13: Obviously, when I first heard it, I was a little disappointed,
• 38:53
  Speaker 13: but then you look at the big picture, it wasn't
• 38:56
  Speaker 13: completely surprising. Again, I think Lakeisha was very convincing, or
• 39:02
  Speaker 13: could be convincing to some people, and that may have
• 39:05
  Speaker 13: been the jury's way of saying, Okay, you know, we're
• 39:07
  Speaker 13: gonna defer to what she has to say.
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: It's the sentencing. He called me and all sorts of things.
• 39:15
  Speaker 8: He was not very nice. He molested our hearts and
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: our minds. It wasn't just those two girls, it was
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: all of this.
• 39:25
  Speaker 13: I was asking for the max. And the reason for
• 39:28
  Speaker 13: that was just the whole dynamics of it, the absence
• 39:33
  Speaker 13: of any kind of remorse, the whole position of authority,
• 39:39
  Speaker 13: the grooming, the brainwashing, the indoctrination, and so I believe
• 39:43
  Speaker 13: that it was the type of case where the maximum
• 39:46
  Speaker 13: eighteen years was warranted. The judge gave us ten years,
• 39:51
  Speaker 13: and I was okay with that.
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: He's a lifetime defender. He has to register in any
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: state in the United States as a defender.
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: He didn't even get everything he deserved. In my opinion,
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: for all the destruction that he caused, he deserved more.
• 40:17
  Speaker 13: When he developed a skin cancer or some kind of
• 40:20
  Speaker 13: cancer condition. I'll admit it. Part of me was sympathetic
• 40:23
  Speaker 13: because if it was true that he was terminally ill, well,
• 40:27
  Speaker 13: he's going to meet his maker.
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: Carol Kruger, the only reason that I was okay with
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: Wayne getting out of prison is because of Jeff, his son.
• 40:44
  Speaker 8: It was his death. Wayne took my mom away from me,
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: and I felt, you know, eight years is long enough
• 40:58
  Speaker 8: to have your parent taken away from you.
• 41:03
  Speaker 14: I wrote a letter to the Bureau of Prisons asking
• 41:07
  Speaker 14: them to let him go, to let him out of
• 41:09
  Speaker 14: prison early so he can go and die with his people.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: For now, the earth comes to its end.
• 41:18
  Speaker 9: It's over.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Now, we watch it pass away before our very eyes.
• 41:28
  Speaker 14: Cult experts say, once you've been in a group like
• 41:30
  Speaker 14: that for twenty years, you are unreachable, and I was there.
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: In nineteen and a half. You get pulled in.
• 41:37
  Speaker 14: There's no matter how smart you are, you can get
• 41:39
  Speaker 14: pulled into this stuff because they see that you have
• 41:42
  Speaker 14: a need and they're willing to help you get that need.
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: The only people he has control over are the ones
• 41:50
  Speaker 8: that give it to him. They're followers, and they're going
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: to always find someone to follow, whether it's him or
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: someone else.
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: I pray for him still to this day, and I
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: pray for all the people.
• 42:04
  Speaker 14: There, even after he took my wife, and Lord, I
• 42:11
  Speaker 14: just pray Lord, that you be with these people and
• 42:13
  Speaker 14: just love them, let him know that you haven't forgotten him,
• 42:17
  Speaker 14: and that you'll open up a way for them to
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: Be able, hopefully to come home back to their loved ones.