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Final Episode of 2023 · United We Scan

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Thank you. Now here are the hosts of the
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United We Scan podcast. Welcome back everybody.
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Episode 53. And as the title says, this is
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the final one of 2023. With the holidays coming up,
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we're going to spend some time with our family, but we'll be
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back right after the New Year. Josh, how was your week?
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It was a week, didn't have an arrow key Friday, so I took the
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mail for the 2/3 that are out for a ride, give it, let it get
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some fresh air and brought it back.
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Got a 1571 who that supervisor went and asked the said
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something to the other supervisor who got on her high
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horse about there's three supervisors there in the
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morning. I could have asked the other
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ones, I don't, knowing that they know that my key broke and we're
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waiting on the replacement to come in.
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Assuming they actually reported it.
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I don't think I should have to beg, so to speak, for a key
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every day. That's just me not looking
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forward to. So that meant an extra long day
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yesterday because I had double the mail for 2/3 that are out
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plus and almost full coverage because the Costco coupons came
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in. So that was three times the
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amount of time at each CBU. We'll see what this week brings.
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How about you James? How was your week?
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Well, my week started off fine and then around Wednesday I
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started getting sick and so bad. I was down Thursday and Friday
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from work. Had to call off unfortunately,
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but started feeling better yesterday and today I went out
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and did things know, see how I'm doing, see how I'm progressing,
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see if I have the energy to be able to go to work tomorrow.
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So it looks like I'm going to be good to go to work tomorrow and
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finish out the rest of the week. So hopefully I'll be all right.
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Hopefully it doesn't rebound on me and put me back into bed
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again because I slept for 26 straight hours at one point, but
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just trying to get through the holiday season.
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I know that calling off during this time is a big problem for a
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lot of offices, especially management.
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But I've been lucky that the management that I've been dealt
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with have always been top cards in the deck.
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So I think it's that's a good thing that I have what I have,
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and I do feel bad for others that don't have what I have.
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But I'm hoping that this week is a good week, maybe a little of
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extra overtime, pad that, check a little bit and get back into
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the swing of things. Getting off the sickness.
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How about your week, Bill? Oh.
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God, are you kidding me? I had one day that I didn't work
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past 8:00. We had one day where the
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accountable cage, where they keep the accountable carts, was
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locked and they couldn't find the key.
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Oh, somehow they bent the cage the the sliding cage door enough
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for our skinny postmaster to go in and get the keys.
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And like a numbskull, she's standing in there calling out
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keys. Just grab all the keys and come
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on out, OK? I mean for God's sakes let's not
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be stupid all the time. But then she tried to make
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friends with me on Friday she come over and said to me and and
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Mark Kwan who's on the the route next to me said did you guys
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scan your ADVO barcodes on Thursday and said yes it did.
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She goes, well, it doesn't show up on the report and I says not
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my problem, that's happened before.
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I said so obviously there's either something wrong with the
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scanner or the server And she goes, well, you need to scan it
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again in front of me. And I said why will that prove
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that it worked even if it doesn't show up again And she
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goes, well, no, this way I can verify that we actually did it
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and I can cover you in regards to, you know, not playing with,
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you know, the the man's of the office.
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And I said, oh, you mean you have you're going to be able to
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cover your ass. She looked at me.
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She said, excuse me. And I said because if you're not
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covering your ass, then you're calling me a liar.
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And she just stood there and looked at me.
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She goes, will you scan it again?
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So I I said sure. I scanned it again, I showed the
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prompts in front of her, entered it and it came up successful.
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And then this woman had the nerve to say, are you logged in
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on right route. I gave it a scanner.
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I said you look it up and I went back to work and she stood there
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trying to figure out how to how to go and find out what route it
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was on. She took it over to another
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carrier who showed her how to find out what route.
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Then she came back and gave me the scanner.
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She goes, you're on the right route.
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I said yes, I know. Took the scanner back and just
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turned my back on the the. It took me almost a year and a
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half to break in the old postmaster to the point where we
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had a working relationship and we understood each other in
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regards to where we were coming from.
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OK, now I've got this new lady who's never dealt with rural
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carriers and she's trying to explain rule, carrier contract
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language to me. And I look at her and I said,
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I'm sorry, that's not what it says.
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Oh, yes, it is. I said, well, when you find it,
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you, you, you get it and bring it to me and I'll believe you.
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But I swear to God, you know, 26 years now, OK.
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I mean, my 26th year. I don't know what I'm doing.
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Now here's the other problem, ladies and gentlemen.
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Has anybody had problems with their scanner going back to the
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old format off and on? No, because the other day mine
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did and I couldn't even do a depart the route because it
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wasn't on the scanner. Nothing happening and I have not
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personally seen it. I'm I'm just we're getting paid
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with these scanners and they don't record.
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They ought to just take this whole contract with about Rex
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and put it on hold until they figure out what the Hell's going
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on. Nope.
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But when I came in Friday morning, my, you know, I picked
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up my scanner. I'm like, oh, I got the the hand
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strap back. Then I realized that it was a
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different scanner. They replaced my scanner because
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it wasn't downloading at all. So which is OK, that's fine.
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The problem is the yellow scan button on the left side, which
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is the one I use with my left thumb is missing.
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The buttons missing. So the last two day the the
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yellow scan button on the on the side of the scanner.
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How's? It going, oh I don't know, but
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so now I'm for the last two days I've been playing you know plus
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and with it trying to figure out how to hold it without hitting
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the enter button on the left side while using the scan button
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on the right side. Well, how was your week,
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Kristen? Well, it started off kind of
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interesting. I did have three days this week
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where I came in under evaluation.
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What? Yeah, I was like was home
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before. It was dark.
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That was really weird. Yesterday was one of them,
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actually, and I think was the other one, not the other one was
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Friday. Yeah, Friday.
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I was in at 3322. I got back to the office and I
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had a note that says, well, you can do your mapping.
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We need to get mapping done. You can do yours today or
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tomorrow. I said well I have a date with a
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Marine tomorrow, so I'll do it now and then.
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I was back yesterday just under evaluation by 1/2 hour Tuesday.
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I've been bugging them for a week that I needed assistance on
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Tuesday because I had my youngest daughter's Christmas
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band concert 2 hours away. Oh yeah, you know, we'll we'll
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we'll get you help. We'll, we'll, we'll do what we
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can. And so Tuesday I was sorting out
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the parcels, give them back into the route.
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And I went up and said something to her and she looked at me
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going, oh, well, I couldn't get so and so, so no, you don't have
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help. And I looked at her and I
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probably got a little emotional, let's put it this way, slightly
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pissed off. And she had a couple packages
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for some reason that were, I don't know if in the missed her
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own card or something that she handed to me.
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And I took those and I probably said a few choice words because
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at that point I was in blind rage and tossed the packages at
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my case and walked out the door to go have a cigarette.
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And at that time Co worker said I'll go do my second trip so she
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can do what she's been wanting, what she needs to do for her
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daughter. They were going to give him the
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help so he wouldn't have a second trip because the pooms
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been yelling at them about his second trips.
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He's the only POV route in the office, and that's the 93 mile
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route and it's 20 mile or not 20, but 10 miles to the to the
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first box. Yeah, he racks up the miles on
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the second trips and she's like, I'll have to go talk to the
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postmaster. And I was at that point, if the
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postmaster hadn't caved, I was going to walk back into the
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building, toss the LLV keys at her and tell her she could take
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the damn route herself and I was going to go home for the day.
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That's where I was at Tuesday. Luckily she caved.
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So I got the partial help and I was back by 03/30 in time to go
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home, change real quick and drive 2 hours to my daughter's
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band concert. That's how my week pretty much
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went. But the rest of the week, you
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know, Wednesday was heavy, but not a big deal.
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I think I had a Mailer, yeah, I did.
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I had a box holder on Wednesday and.
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But I don't know, Mail's been really light for us.
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Flats have been super light all week.
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I actually pulled down into my DPS three days this week, which
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is really weird, but other than that it hasn't been too bad.
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We'll see what this next week holds.
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I mean the flats usually die after the 10th because.
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Oh yeah. Yeah, you don't have enough time
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to have it manufactured put on the ship across the Pacific to
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get to you, but there there is a fun item that the Panama Canal
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is still backed up. Oh yeah.
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There's a lot of cargo ships still sitting out there waiting
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to get to the East Coast. Yeah, we always get it seems
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like there's always a delay somewhere.
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Well, they don't want, they don't want to put the containers
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on trains in Los Angeles because they've been robbing every
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single one of them. Cargo containers in Los Angeles,
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you see it on the news all the time while the all the Amazon
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and TMU packages strewn about on the railroad tracks as people
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are looking for the expensive items coming over overseas.
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Yeah. And unfortunately, it's
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happening a lot more in stores and things like that.
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Society's really going downhill. The cost of stuff is too high
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and people are feeling that they have to start stealing stuff in
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order to either survive or because they can't afford what
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they want to have, so they just steal it.
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Oh, and the highlight of my week?
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My son got in Monday night, my brother picked him up and my son
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showed up yesterday afternoon to my house and we went to a
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concert last night and he's up on my couch right now watching
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Japanese anime with my boyfriend.
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So I have my son home till Tuesday and then he's going to
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leave again and go visit more friends.
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Yay. Right, right.
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I bet you that's the biggest present you'll get this year.
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It really is, yeah. I think it's the.
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Yeah, I think it's the best present you're going to get this
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year. Any Christmas where I could have
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all three of my kids together is the best Christmas.
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Well, I don't know. I got an early Christmas present
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with, you know what you put on the our host page about the
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person that met me in Orlando. Yes, that was on.
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I hadn't checked our Apple podcast stuff lately, so I was I
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was doing my benefits today, put my insurance in and whatnot, and
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I decided since I had the laptop up in the living room, I was
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going to go in and check out the comments on our Apple Podcasts
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and I'll go ahead and read it real quick.
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This person gave us a five star rating, so it's very
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informative. I met Bill in Orlando at the
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convention. I was warned he was a
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troublemaker, so when I was seated at his table for the
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banquet, I didn't engage too much.
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After listening to a few podcasts, I now wish I would
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have talked with him. Talked more with him.
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It is clear all four hosts care about the craft and their fellow
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carriers. Talk about the fields.
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I know I had to share that one right away.
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And that's why we do this, folks.
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We care. We truly care with This is not
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lip service. This is not kiss ass.
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This is We care. Because guess what?
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No matter what happens, we're always going to be with the rest
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of our brothers and sisters of the craft.
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We're going to be by your side no matter what, because the most
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important person in the rural carrier union is the carrier on
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the ground delivering the mail. Absolutely on.
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The ground boots on the ground. Speaking of that.
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Boots in the house OK. Speaking of that, we did have
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another news release from our esteemed President, Don Masten,
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filing a Step 4 grievance finally on the failure to pay
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rural carriers. Now, mind you, it took what,
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four months to figure this out? Three, four months to figure
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this out that they need to actually file a Step 4 to
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actually get management to do what they're supposed to be
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doing Because that's exactly what a grievance is for, is to
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tell management to do something or not do something that they're
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either supposed to be doing or are not supposed to be doing,
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like filing the contract or violating federal law.
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But it was a interesting 2 minute and 52nd video that
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literally could have just been a press release like they normally
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do instead of having to sit there.
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I could have read it faster than the way he spoke it, but I'll
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give him credit that he is using a little bit more
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technologically advanced information spreading than the
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previous leadership did. I'll give him that, but
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unfortunately there was no substance to it that could have
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been better than just a standard press release.
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What is your guys's take? It was quite bland and obviously
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read off a teleprompter or something.
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Yes, I agree. I mean it.
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I I I will give them that, that they did put it out via a social
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media way, so to say. But at the same time, yeah, it's
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something that could have easily just been done as a press
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release. I mean, there really wasn't a
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lot. There wasn't any substance to it
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whatsoever. And and again, only the union
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members were Privy to it. Unless the union member put the
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link out there for non union members.
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Yeah, well, I'll refrain from commenting on the comments that
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followed after people saw that, because some of them are very
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obscene, very disrespectful and had rolling on the floor.
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Yeah, and we do not condone being disrespectful to anybody
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in the craft because we are all brothers and sisters of the
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craft. But at the same time, we have a
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right to hold our leadership that is elected by the delegates
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to a higher standard than the rest of the craft.
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As well. Their job is to protect the
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craft from management and I have yet to see real protection from
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the top of the food chain in the leadership to the craft at the
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bottom. You know, we had fifty 555,000
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carriers not get paid. Where was the Step 4?
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Didn't happen then? We had 2200 not get paid.
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That was three weeks prior to this.
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And then finally he decides to actually file a Step 4.
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But then again, we have Step 4 from 20/19/2016 still sitting,
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waiting to be adjudicated. So I wonder how long this Step 4
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is going to take. When he came out, when he came
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out and brought out the message about the 55,000 carriers not
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getting paid and that management told the union it wouldn't
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happen again, I went, yeah. Cory Walton says it best
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management would rather climb a tree to lie than stand on the
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ground to tell the truth. So management lied to the union,
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said it wouldn't happen again. We're going to fix the problem
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and it happened again and people didn't get paid again and people
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still aren't getting paid right. And yet it took 3-4 months to
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file a step for grievance on this.
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The minute we found out the carriers were not getting paid,
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that step four should have been written up and ready to go.
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And then when they did not get their checks on that Friday,
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that step four should have been handed over to management and
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said now we're going to discuss this.
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And our director of Labor relations have sat down with
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management right then and there and said, all right, this is
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what we're going to do. We're going to go through this.
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We're going to get this solved. We're going to get it done now
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because these carriers need to get paid.
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The fact that the Department of Labor, who has literally no
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affiliation with the Postal Service other than a supervising
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agency over labor my. Zipper.
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Is done has gotten more done for rural carriers.
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Yeah. They have done more.
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I love you. Hey, Bill.
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Yes. We love you too.
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We. Are my wife.
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I'm not ashamed to say it. But the Department of Labor has
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done more than our union, and they've only gotten half the
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money back to the carriers that they're owed.
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You want to tell me that an outside agency is doing more for
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our carriers than our inside agency?
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Our paid representatives. That we pay almost $200,000 just
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in salary alone. For one person.
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For one person, each person, why is it that we had to bring in
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the Department of Labor and other agencies into the
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situation when our union should have been stepping up and doing
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the job in the first place? Yes, this is a subtitled a
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rabbit hole episode. All right.
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Yeah, it's it. It's just that it took that
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long, you know, and and not just the 55,000 and the 22,000, those
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two instances. There's instances every pay
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period where an office or carriers do not get paid.
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And it's ridiculous that even that happens at all, whether
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it's management not submitting it on time or a glitch somewhere
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here or there. It's ridiculous that any person
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has to miss a paycheck because of why, and then nothing happens
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other than trying to fight for that pay check.
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Yeah, I find it ridiculous. Go ahead, Bill.
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I I just want to go down my favorite rabbit hole this time
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of year. UPS, FedEx.
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Not too much. DHL, the target people, all all
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those little companies out there, you know, stuff in their
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packages in the mailbox. Bill May's rule according to
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article A 125. Take them back and and you know
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to the post office and they're supposed to return them to the
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sender. And the only caveat that I do
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during the year is on Christmas Eve.
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That's the only time I'll leave it there.
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I don't want to ruin everybody's Christmas.
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But otherwise, folks, take it to the door.
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You're paid to deliver to the door.
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Take it to the damn door you got to.
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You know, I hate being a Grinch about the whole thing, but every
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mailbox says approved by the United States Postal Service,
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the Postmaster General. It's not your mailbox.
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Knock the shit off. You know I hate being the bad
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guy, but you know you're taking money from me.
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Yeah, I rolled up two line of mailboxes.
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It was the day before and I had a couple packages for the house
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and I obviously know where the house is.
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It's not, you know, near the mailbox there.
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And I like and there's this package underneath the mailbox
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and I'm going to assume it was FedEx as it wasn't a a U PS:.
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Label. And I just shook my head as I
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drive down the road to the house and deliver her four huge heavy
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packages that day. But and it was like one of the
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posts I saw on the social web, somebody commenting, you know,
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let's just talk about the holiday packages or they they
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ran into another carrier where I don't remember if it was FedEx
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or UPS and they're like oh, how you know, I got a like 180 stops
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and or 180 packages, how you doing?
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And the, you know, the carrier just looks at him goes 318 and
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they just kind of owe and book out of there.
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You know, guys, I don't want to hear about FedEx and UPS and
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their 150 packages or they're, they're, you know, they're 125
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stops, 180 stops when we're pulling how many a day on top of
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delivering mail. Yeah.
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I just saw a post on Facebook from a mail group.
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Person just delivered 840 packages 5:00 AM till 9:00 PM.
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Wow. Yeah.
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That hurts. Like I complain when I have 150
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like ow. My 212 yesterday felt like a
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light day. It it, it's funny.
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Yeah. We you're under 250.
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It's like, God, I I had a, you know below average day I'll get
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done before evaluation that's that's a nice day.
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But then again like I said, I got done before 8:00 once this
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week. That's how bad we're getting
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hammered. Well, like yesterday my.
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Kind of tapered off a bit, but not some routes, not all routes.
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Like yesterday for example, my parcel count when I went and
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reviewed my entries was only 168 where I've been low to mid twos
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all week but I got back later than any other day this the past
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week and a half that's. Because you're Milky on the
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overtime. I haven't gotten overtime yet,
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not if you exclude my K days. I didn't say you were a good
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milker, I'm just saying you were Milky or or or the former ADR
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explaining that you get overtime after you pass the what's it
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57.36 hours, which is a maximum for A48K and I'm sitting there
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going. The contract says you get
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overtime after you go past your evaluation.
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My evaluation is 62.3 36 hours. Well, that's not how it works.
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OK, I'm, I'm sorry, I I didn't know how to read the contract.
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I I don't know how many hours I I didn't have as many hours this
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week this past week, but the first week of the pay period,
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not counting the three 3 1/2 hours of helping out on the
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other route and helping the new sub, I had about 62 hours.
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Does that include my K day though too?
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It's funny because, you know, I got a phone call from a
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certified steward, wanted to know if they took a sick day,
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would it affect their overtime. There was about a three minute
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pause before she said, are you there, Bill?
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And I said you are a steward, right?
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Yeah, I says. And you don't know how it
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affects your your overtime? No.
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All right. So call your ADR.
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That's. Well, now you got to explain it
29:01
for the people that are listening, because you've talked
29:03
about it. Now you got to give them the
29:05
answer. You don't get overtime if you
29:10
take annual or sick leave or Elwha.
29:13
It does not contribute towards the total amount of work hours
29:17
to accumulate overtime. It's a free day.
29:23
So unless you're working the other five days and get
29:26
overtime, that day that you take leave, you're not going to get
29:31
overtime. It's not work If you're not
29:39
working, you can't get overtime folks.
29:42
It's just, it's that simple, OK? It's overtime for work hours.
29:47
Leave is not computed in that. So don't think you're getting
29:53
shorted. It's just the way the contract
29:55
is. Everything that I've read said
29:58
that leave counts towards his work hours during the three
30:04
weeks. Right it it's not.
30:08
OK. It is not.
30:09
Well, like I said it's it's the same way of saying that you know
30:16
you're evaluate going over to 48 K standard for devaluation is
30:20
where your overtime starts even though you're evaluated higher.
30:23
No, the language in the contract is very specific.
30:27
You must go over your evaluation.
30:33
And you also have to remember the term is worked hours.
30:38
Yes, that means hours. You are on the clock.
30:43
So if you were off sick, even though you're paid for that day,
30:49
you are not on the clock. It's the same as when you're on
30:54
annual leave. You are not on the clock because
30:57
you are not physically working. It's the same concept.
31:02
A lot of people don't get that realization that, oh, I have to
31:07
actually be on the clock working the hours.
31:11
That's why you see on your paycheck that it says actual
31:13
hours work versus rural hours worked.
31:17
The actual hours are your work hours that you spent on the
31:21
clock. So if you were there for six
31:23
hours, you were there for 8 hours, you were there for 10
31:25
hours. That's where the actual hours
31:27
would be there, and then the rural worked hours would be your
31:31
evaluation. And and it'll it spells it out
31:37
right on your pay stub. It's kind of alluded, but it
31:41
spells it out, yeah. So we are in the last week of
31:46
the three weeks of Christmas overtime period.
31:50
Yeah, this is the last week to get your overtime payments.
31:53
Even though the next two weeks after that are still going to be
31:56
a hell of a week. Because not only are you going
31:59
to still get the shipments of people that ordered stuff too
32:01
late that it didn't make it by Christmas, then you're going to
32:04
turn around and get everybody that's ordered stuff because
32:07
they got gift cards for Christmas presents because the
32:09
people that ordered the stuff too late couldn't get it there
32:12
for Christmas. So they went out quickly to
32:14
Target or Walmart or wherever to buy gift cards for the people
32:17
that they didn't get their presents in on time.
32:20
So you'll get those packages coming in too.
32:22
And then and then it's. Return season.
32:25
There you go, yeah. Which, you know, some areas are
32:30
higher on the returns than others.
32:32
But yes, I was going to say it then starts the return season
32:36
because somebody bought the wrong color, wrong size, wrong,
32:38
whatever. And on they gave that you have
32:42
another short week with a holiday on a Monday.
32:46
Yeah. And so you got 2 Tuesdays.
32:51
Yep. Two days after day after
32:52
holiday. Tuesdays after that.
32:56
Hey, you know, if that's the only way I can have two weekends
32:59
with two days off in a row, I'll take it though I did I tell you
33:07
guys that you know how we had the three new Subs hired?
33:10
Did I tell you that one of them quit before she started?
33:12
OJTI think I mentioned that last week.
33:16
I think you did. Yeah.
33:17
Talk about it. Yeah, yeah.
33:21
She moved from out of state and was having a hard time finding a
33:25
place to live and then got sick with COVID and just said Nope,
33:28
I'm not going to do it, I'm going to move back home.
33:31
Oh yeah. Yep, sometimes life tells you to
33:35
go that way. Yes, it does.
33:39
But I am still next to get a sub once.
33:41
If we get another one hired anytime soon, it'll go to me.
33:46
Nice. And then you can start going to
33:47
to events. Yeah, then I can start going to
33:51
concerts in the middle of the week and take the next day off,
33:56
unlike the one I had to skip a couple weeks ago because I was
33:59
not done in time and I wasn't. It wasn't going to be worth the
34:02
two hour one way drive and be there for an hour and a half
34:06
because I got there late. So yeah, it's it'd be nice to
34:11
have a sub. Don't get me wrong, I'll miss
34:13
the overtime, but I think we're pretty a ways away.
34:16
Before I actually get one, though, I'm not holding my
34:19
breath. Now we got a sub that's and he's
34:27
he's under his 90 days. He's not bad on the on the
34:33
primary that he trained on. You know, So OK, they're using
34:37
the run parcels and he comes to me and says can I take some big
34:41
parcels off of you, you know, Oh sure.
34:44
So I had this one hamper with nothing but big parcels.
34:48
So he takes the parcels out on the dock writing an address
34:53
down. Then he puts them into his phone
34:55
and then, you know, comes back and brings me three of them
34:57
back. And I says, what's the matter,
34:59
wouldn't they fit? He goes, Oh no, they're not
35:02
close enough, you know, for me to go to.
35:07
OK, I will. I'm going to mention Bill, we
35:13
had a listener post this and the listener chat and it says it's a
35:21
excerpt from the contract says the.
35:24
Christmas time going to bring that up.
35:27
The Christmas holiday leave, Christmas holiday and paid leave
35:31
taken by regular carriers will be credited as work performed
35:37
for the purpose of determining work hours during the Christmas
35:40
period. Such holiday and paid leave
35:43
should be computed on the basis of the appropriate daily
35:46
evaluation for the route as shown in the following table
35:50
blah blah blah. And that's so, yes, 92H1F.
35:55
Yes, if you take leave during the Christmas holiday time,
35:59
those three weeks, it does count towards as work performed.
36:03
Oh my bad. Your work hours.
36:06
And corrected. And I was told the exact same
36:09
thing Bill was by my higher union representative.
36:13
So yes, that that's been a a staple of their argument for
36:18
years. And that's why we're here is
36:21
that way. We all learn from each other.
36:23
We all get experience with each other.
36:26
And when we're wrong, we say we're wrong and.
36:29
Yeah, I know, I know. A buddy of mine, years ago when
36:33
we actually had staffing and they would tow, half the
36:37
carriers come in and then they have to be off the clock by 11.
36:42
And then the other half they would tell them don't come in
36:45
till 11:00, but they would put in for a, you know, call in
36:49
sick. Because then instead of 11 to
36:54
4:00 or 12:00 to 4:00, he's getting credit for the full
36:58
day's hours even though he burned a sicker annual day.
37:01
Yeah. Do me a favor, put that back up
37:09
there. The article that you found, OK.
37:11
Yeah, it's in the listener's chat.
37:14
Yeah, it's in the listener's. Chat, all right.
37:16
The main channel listener chat channel.
37:19
It's article right? Yeah, it's article 92H1F.
37:29
And then I put just before that I had put something that someone
37:34
had posted recently from Rural info which shows that the week
37:40
one, week two, what your hours worked were and it had an annual
37:46
leap day and week two so. So we stand corrected.
37:55
Yes, and. And that's why we have more than
37:58
one person and more than one voice doing this, so that we can
38:02
draw from multiple resources instead of pretending that we
38:06
know everything. I spoke from experience with my
38:14
Dr. and you know, James concurred because that's what he
38:19
was told. And here we find out in writing
38:21
that it's wrong and now it's corrected and you know that you
38:25
will get your overtime. And if you don't?
38:29
And if you don't, what do we do, Bill?
38:32
File, file, file, file and smile.
38:36
Yep. So we don't come on here to talk
38:42
my truth, Bill's truth, Kristen's truth, Josh's truth,
38:47
or anybody else's truth. We want to speak the truth that
38:53
everybody can learn. Even though I knew, probably in
38:56
the back of my head, that you're supposed to get credit for the
39:00
day these last few weeks, I'm like, well, I guess I'm never
39:05
going to make the overtime, even if I'm going over with being off
39:09
on Thursdays, taking sick or annual each week for that day.
39:17
Well, apparently I guess I am getting credit for it.
39:21
Yeah, the the biggest thing is we want everybody to learn
39:26
because a well informed carrier is the bait of management.
39:31
Management hates a well informed carrier.
39:34
Leadership hates a well informed carrier because that makes more
39:38
work for them because your step one, your step one grievance may
39:44
not be settled at step one. You may have to go Step 2, step
39:47
three or Step 4. And that's a quote, UN quote
39:50
cost to leadership and arbitration is a cost to
39:55
leadership and when you're trying to sit there and.
40:01
Save money off the backs of your own craft.
40:05
You know the first thing you take out is your Step 4
40:08
arguments and your arbitration. Those are your most expensive
40:13
things that the union can do other than paying the salaries
40:17
of leadership. So that's why a lot of times
40:23
you'll see that higher levels, they'll settle for language that
40:26
already exists and things like that, because they don't want to
40:31
take the time to actually fight this out and get the right
40:34
judgement. We're here to help, hopefully
40:38
guide in the right direction. And if we're wrong, one of our
40:41
listeners will post it in the live chat or in our listener
40:45
chat or even comment on Facebook about it, because we're we're
40:50
learning just as much as you guys are on a lot of things.
40:54
We can be wrong. Hell, I've been wrong on quite a
40:57
few things. I've been misquoted plenty of
41:01
times too. Everybody here has been
41:04
misquoted. Everybody interprets what they
41:07
read in their own way. Or even here.
41:11
Issue. Yeah, I mean, exactly.
41:13
That's like the biggest issue is interpretation.
41:18
You know, a mannerism of which you say something could be taken
41:22
completely out of context from what you actually said.
41:25
I meant and it just in the way that you say it and it it's sad
41:28
that it happens that way. But unfortunately, you know,
41:31
we're all individual people and that's it's all individualized.
41:37
That's really much all I can say about it.
41:40
Well, opinions are like assholes.
41:42
Everybody has one. They all stink.
41:45
Absolutely at times. But not all.
41:48
Not all opinions stink, though I will say there are some ones
41:51
that smell fragrant nicely. There are some good opinions out
41:56
there, don't get me wrong. But see this is the nice thing
42:00
about our group, OK we're we're a round table.
42:03
We're not you know just pushing 1 voice one agenda we we have
42:08
you know the five of us. We have our listeners and we
42:13
will research. We'll go back.
42:14
We'll find out the truth. We'll correct ourselves and
42:16
everything and that's how our national board ought to be.
42:20
They shouldn't be just talking among themselves because they
42:23
sure the hell don't have all the answers, especially in regards
42:26
to the scanners and Amazon, which none of them have touched.
42:30
But we have at least we have the humility to admit our mistakes.
42:36
We have the intelligence to to go to others who may be more
42:40
knowledgeable. And we have, you know, the the
42:44
audacity to say we fucked up. Here's the right way to do it,
42:49
OK? You know, and and, but we're
42:51
drawing. We're drawing for more than just
42:53
one voice, one opinion. We're drawing from thousands.
42:57
And that's how a union should be run, drawn from the membership.
43:01
Absolutely. I mean there'll be you know I've
43:04
had Bill and Josh have both called me before just getting
43:07
hey you know can I get clarification on this is this
43:10
how it's you know the is this what it says or something or
43:13
another like that or I've gone to them going hey guys I this
43:17
got brought to my attention what's your take on it you know
43:20
and we it just kind of as a round table it out and then if
43:24
somebody has the exact language or the exact interpretation or
43:27
how it's supposed to be handled or you know a Step 4 settlement
43:30
on that something you know they pull it out oh here I have this
43:33
or whatever. You know we we reach out to
43:35
everybody and you know a member comes like hey you know it's
43:39
this and they show us the proof great.
43:41
I mean, we get a lot of stuff sent to us that, you know,
43:44
there's stuff out there right now I would love to talk about,
43:47
but we can't because we don't have any proof for it until we
43:51
have a solid evidence and proof on it.
43:52
Then yeah, I'll be happy to talk about it all day long.
43:56
Yeah, you know, like Christian was saying, I'll reach out to
43:59
her or Bill and and say, hey, in this article it says, Does that
44:06
mean and they'll be like, absolutely.
44:10
Or you're way off base. This is what it really is.
44:15
And I'm like, OK, that makes sense.
44:18
Never mind, forget. It.
44:23
It's that time of year. And another reminder to
44:26
everybody here for those of you who are on POV routes, EMA is
44:32
going to decrease $0.03 per mile December 30th, basically the end
44:37
of the year. So it will be going down to
44:41
$0.95 per mile for a minimum of $38 per day for regular carriers
44:48
on a route or anybody on a route.
44:52
And employees providing auxiliary assistance or serving
44:56
auxiliary routes will receive $0.95 per mile or $10.10 per
45:02
hour, whichever is greater. And the EMA should not exceed
45:07
the amount provided in the special EMA chart for route
45:10
stops and miles. So this was the 7th adjustment
45:16
under the terms of the 2021 to 2024 agreement, and the next
45:21
quarterly adjustment will occur after the February 2024 CPI
45:26
release. The cost of everything got up,
45:29
but the pay is going down for something else.
45:33
And EMA is not directly related to gas prices, people.
45:38
No, it is. It is connected to the Consumer
45:41
Price Index for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers and
45:48
not clerical as in as in Church and Church Ministries, Clerical
45:55
as in Secretaries, Administrative side.
46:05
But I it'd be nice at times if it was based off of gas prices,
46:09
but unfortunately it's not. I notice how I.
46:12
Get the cost of cars, cost of carports too.
46:15
Oh, I know. I mean our gas.
46:18
Prices have gone. Down a little bit lately, but.
46:21
The other thing is going to say in in my area, the gas prices
46:24
have dropped. Not a lot, but they have
46:26
dropped. Yeah.
46:31
Because nobody's driving to the store to buy their Christmas
46:34
presents. Yeah.
46:36
So there's a glut of gasoline. Yeah.
46:41
Oh, but we're delivering them all.
46:44
Cheapest price around me right now is 259.
46:48
That's and it was still see anywhere from 295.
46:55
Cheapest I saw yesterday going down to Flint was 277.
46:59
We're still right around 305295 in my area.
47:05
Yeah, I was just looking at the Air 295 to 3 bucks.
47:08
Yeah. Southeast PA is at 328.
47:14
But it's 2/2/79 in Gaylord. I haven't been there since
47:20
Tuesday and it wasn't quite that low Tuesday when I was there
47:24
because I did have to fill up on the to come home, but.
47:27
Gas buddies tell me 289 to three O 9 in my area.
47:33
Yeah, Yeah. So but really folks, the next
47:40
steps that we have coming up through this year, we have the
47:44
last, this is the last few weeks of the year and we're going to
47:51
be probably pretty heavy on parcels, pretty heavy on getting
47:56
things out and done, but we're going into a new year, another
48:05
year in this podcast. I want to add to that real quick
48:08
though, is yesterday started pay period one.
48:15
We just finished pay period 26 on Friday.
48:18
Yesterday started pay period one for the 2024 pay calendar.
48:28
So you. Can.
48:29
So what does that mean? That's also coming up after
48:32
return season and gift card seasoning W2 season.
48:37
Yeah, and then also if if just if you do your if you have your
48:42
last paycheck, you get your last paycheck, you can actually start
48:46
filling out your taxes when you get your pace.
48:51
Final pay stub Because all the information will be at the
48:53
bottom of your pay stub. The year to date stuff it'll be.
48:57
This paycheck is the last one, so that'll be what'll be filed
49:00
on your taxes. Yeah, I'm going to wait till I
49:02
get my W2 though I always I always wait and just verify
49:07
numbers. But it'll it'll give you an
49:09
idea. Oh yeah.
49:12
Oh joy, I get to write out another $8000 check to the IRS.
49:19
Yeah, I won't be getting the tax returns I've had in the past,
49:22
that's for sure. I yeah, the last two pay periods
49:28
of the year was as a regular, but my last RCA paycheck beat
49:33
out my gross year to date. My last RCA paycheck was just
49:41
over $5000 more than I grossed for the whole entire year last
49:45
year. My white number.
49:48
To go into a cash business like, you know, pole dancing at the
49:52
Blue Oyster because table table one's killing me.
49:58
No, you. Just need to go to half.
50:03
You just need to go to Half Cat Bill.
50:09
Just remember, companies have until the first business day
50:14
after January 30th to have W2's postmarked.
50:20
Tell that to the post office. Well, I got.
50:27
I got mine at the end of February last year.
50:32
Yeah, I got. I don't get a paper one, mine
50:34
comes. I just get mine online.
50:36
I usually usually online. They're posted under postal
50:40
ease, usually between pay period two and pay period 3 usually.
50:46
Yeah, that's that's if you can get on Postal Ease and get it
50:49
this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
50:52
Yeah. My wife's work don't mail them
50:54
out at all. They tell them they have to burn
50:57
them from on, you know the their Internet or the intranet.
51:04
Yeah, well, I. Don't I don't have a computer.
51:08
And then the veil. We don't have Internet
51:10
reception, so how the hell am I supposed to get that?
51:15
So I did discover today. Get.
51:17
To them at home they have to print them from work.
51:21
I did discover today when I went in and was doing my benefits and
51:25
I went to sign up, you know, to do the FSA, the flexible
51:30
spending account that it did tell me for 2024.
51:34
I have to wait until after January 1st to do it.
51:41
Yep, interesting. Yeah, yeah.
51:47
I was following the link on Postalisa gave me to go sign up
51:51
and it told me I had to wait until January 1st 2024 before I
51:56
could do it. I might have to go in there and
52:00
with that new login system that they have.
52:03
Yeah. I I did see where Fast Fed said
52:06
that that they had a late sign up and they gave you a choice of
52:10
reasons why you were late and you know I I just put down it
52:15
was lost in the mail. Yeah, but under as under new
52:21
hire, which I have to go under as new hire and I have to redo
52:25
my background check and fingerprints.
52:31
Why? Yeah, I I had to do that too.
52:35
Yep, I have until the 29th to do that in office.
52:41
She is. I'll pay you 8127 time.
52:43
I said. Thank you that.
52:46
That's really weird. Yeah, yeah, I guess that's what
52:52
they do now for when you newly convert is.
52:55
And I was looking at 'cause she printed off the e-mail and
52:58
everything, and it's only five years back.
53:00
Thank goodness I haven't changed anything in five years, so I'm
53:03
good there. That's good.
53:07
I haven't had a badge in seven, so you know.
53:11
Or I still have my original I think in my wallet I had to.
53:15
I had to turn my turn my badge in when they renewed it for me,
53:20
which is coming up again next year too do.
53:25
You have the barcode on yours. Yes, I do.
53:28
OK yeah I I have the old school without the barcode.
53:36
Supposedly 2 managers ago they were ordering everyone a new
53:40
badge with that, but it hasn't happened yet.
53:45
I should have kept the last badge they gave me.
53:47
It had my my picture and name on it.
53:51
Who's the city carrier? You know, I was sitting there
53:55
going. I don't think so.
53:57
I remember when I lost my first badge at my old office and then
54:00
I got a replacement and I asked him to spell my name correctly
54:03
because I misspelled my first name, as everybody does.
54:06
It's an IN, not an EN. And then and it came and OK,
54:11
we'll get taken care of. And then I they gave me the
54:12
replacement badge and it still had my name spelled incorrectly.
54:16
So when it expired and I got the new one done at my current
54:20
office that actually they finally fixed it.
54:23
And you know, it only took four years, five years.
54:28
Do we have anything else to talk about tonight, guys?
54:31
There is one last thing I would like to touch on.
54:35
We're going into our next election cycle for the Union
54:41
next year, starting next year, we're going to have to find out.
54:45
We're going to need people from every single state to be
54:50
involved in this, because we want recommendations from each
54:55
and every state and territory for delegates to National
55:01
Convention, because it is very difficult to coordinate getting
55:09
people to get together for the delegation.
55:12
But if we can have at least one person from each state
55:15
representing help us figure out who is supporting the craft on
55:21
the delegate list, that would be a big bonus for everybody
55:27
involved. Because in order to make this
55:31
craft better, we need a delegation that wants to make
55:33
this craft better, that wants to move us to the next generation
55:38
and doesn't want to just keep the same old, same old.
55:41
And for those of you that are that make delegate, that'll be
55:44
first time delegates. Just as a heads up, the room
55:48
blocks usually open up the beginning of May.
55:51
I notice it kind of falls around the same time mid States
55:54
conference does when they open up the room.
55:56
Blocks. Yeah.
55:57
For a national. It does require a one nights
56:01
deposit at the time of booking. It can be, you know, if you're
56:06
going by yourself, it can be costly.
56:08
That's where you look at having roommates and you don't have to
56:12
room with people from your own state.
56:15
Yeah, you can. You know, if you've got a buddy
56:18
at a nearby state or state across the country and you guys
56:21
want to get, you know, go together, you know, you, you you
56:25
make those connections on the social webs or conferences or
56:29
whatnot, You can room with people from anywhere.
56:33
It doesn't matter when it comes to rooming, and it does
56:35
definitely does. In Orlando, I had someone from
56:38
Michigan and someone from Florida.
56:41
Two people from North Carolina. So yeah, you know, it's it
56:48
definitely does help the cost with the roommate.
56:50
I will say that for sure. Yeah, that was the Menage
56:54
Cuatro. Yeah, we won't go there.
57:01
I think that Bush is calling your name Bill.
57:03
Yeah, OK. Snuggle bear.
57:09
Oh boy. Never living that one down,
57:16
you're just lucky you didn't bring his cat.
57:20
Thank God. But we we really want to start
57:25
working towards getting towards this next National Convention
57:29
because in order to progress this union and grow this union
57:34
and make this union the best world carrier union ever
57:40
overall, we need people that have that passion, have that
57:44
desire to serve the craft. So if if if you're one of those
57:53
in any states, we're looking for 51 States and we're going to
57:56
make a post on our Facebook group asking for a
58:00
representative from each state who would be willing to provide
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a delegate list to the to the group.
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So if you can help us out, reach out.
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All right, guys. Anything else tonight as we are
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wrapping this 2023 year up? Woo Hoo, it's the end of the
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year. I will say guys, last week of
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Christmas OT is this week. A week from tomorrow is
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Christmas Day. Two weeks from tomorrow is New
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Year's Day. Be safe out there.
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We've got this one more week to go.
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Enjoy the time with your families.
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Enjoy your Christmas holidays. Enjoy New Year's.
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Don't overindulge. If you do overindulge, please be
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safe and responsible. Have a designated driver or stay
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at home and overindulge. That's all I can say about that
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one. Go ahead guys.
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Final comments for this evening, Josh.
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Like Kristen just said, stay safe, be diligent.
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It's still getting darker earlier.
59:17
I'm telling you Kristen does finger flashlight gloves or God
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sent. I know I the first day I had
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them I showed one of the city carriers and he ordered 3 pairs,
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one for himself and 1:00 to give to his teeth.
59:36
Ricks and someone else. I just had one of the other
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world carriers saw, you know, saw me pull them out and she's
59:45
like where, you know, asked me for a link to them so she can
59:51
order a pair for herself. So, you know, and like you said,
59:56
there's no glare on the windshield when you're, you
59:59
know, when they're on. And last night it was like pitch
1:00:04
black out there was finishing delivering and I was able to
1:00:08
read the addresses. It was beautiful thing.
1:00:12
Do not get yourselves overwhelmed.
1:00:14
If you do, take a step back. Take a deep breath, step back in
1:00:20
again. Be safe.
1:00:23
We'll see you next year. James, go ahead.
1:00:31
Unlike Kristen, I know it's more than one week of trouble for us
1:00:36
for the rest of the year, as we said earlier, with the excess
1:00:40
packages returns, plus people using gift cards and so on.
1:00:44
But we're going to get through it.
1:00:47
We're going to get into the new year and we're going to keep
1:00:50
moving forward on making this a better craft for everybody.
1:00:56
So no matter what, remember, we're all in this together.
1:01:00
James is right, you know. We need your input in regards to
1:01:05
the delegates. We need your your insight into
1:01:07
the the character of the individuals you you prefer to
1:01:14
select for your national delegates.
1:01:17
And that is so critical in us trying to get the national board
1:01:21
changed to a a representative body that has our views and our
1:01:27
interests at heart. And you know, one of the things
1:01:32
that, you know, I really, really would like to point out is that
1:01:36
we need somebody in the national, you know, steward
1:01:39
operations that will put some teeth back into the steward
1:01:43
system. And there's plenty of horror
1:01:47
stories out there. There's there's there's some
1:01:49
good stories about, you know, AD Rs and locals and everything
1:01:52
else and and and one or two D Rs that I know personally.
1:01:56
But we need to give the Steward system some teeth and that
1:02:00
starts with leadership and that's one of the major
1:02:03
positions that has to be changed as the, you know, director of
1:02:06
Stewart Operation. So folks, you know, please
1:02:10
participate in this request so we can get the delegates on
1:02:14
board and then represent at the National Convention and change
1:02:18
the entire national board to the body that it is supposed to be
1:02:24
that that represents the craft, not themselves, but the craft.
1:02:30
With that, you know you've got the the next week coming up,
1:02:33
you're going to have the overflow after that, you're
1:02:36
going to have the returns after that.
1:02:38
On top of that, you're going to have the sales after Christmas.
1:02:41
So the next two or three weeks are still going to be heavy to a
1:02:44
certain extent. Be safe.
1:02:47
It's dark out there. Some of you are operating in
1:02:50
wintry conditions. You know, be careful, you know
1:02:53
if you're unsafe, you know, jump off the route, take it back.
1:02:59
It's not worth injury to you. It's not worth getting
1:03:01
disciplined for a a a wrecked vehicle or a damaged mailbox or
1:03:06
anything else like that. Take care of yourselves, OK?
1:03:11
You're the most important delivery of the day, especially
1:03:13
at this time of year and and last year I had a a very close
1:03:17
friend and customer, JoJo Kra who had been suffering for
1:03:23
months and I told him, I says you need to get for Christmas.
1:03:27
You need to, to make sure that you're here with your family,
1:03:30
your children, grandchildren, your great grandchildren, I
1:03:33
said. Because if you ruin the holidays
1:03:34
by dying, I said I'm going to dig you up and kick your ass.
1:03:40
That made him laugh and smile and all and and he did.
1:03:43
He he made it, he made it to February till he passed.
1:03:46
And you know, this is the type of relationship, you know,
1:03:51
people all builds an angry person builds A troublemaker.
1:03:54
You know, this family basically adopted me and my wife, and we
1:04:00
went to family picnics and the 65th wedding anniversary and
1:04:03
everything. And let me tell you that there
1:04:06
was never a better soul that I've encountered in my life than
1:04:09
Joe Junkra. And it's a shame somebody like
1:04:13
him has to pass. Or, you know, one of my
1:04:16
customers had their dog die this past week.
1:04:18
When there's so many more people out there that, you know, I'd
1:04:21
rather see go to heaven before them.
1:04:23
But be safe, you know, Get home to your loved ones.
1:04:28
Enjoy the holidays. Most of us will be able to enjoy
1:04:32
a A A2 day, You know holiday this year.
1:04:35
Some of us won't. RCA is most likely in the PT, FS
1:04:38
and whoever volunteers. Do your best to your job,
1:04:44
efficiently, safely, professionally, and then get
1:04:47
your ass home to your loved ones.
1:04:49
OK, because it's not what's under the tree accounts, it's
1:04:54
what's around the tree. It's the people surrounding that
1:04:56
tree with the love, the warmth and sincerity of a family.
1:05:01
All right, everybody, have a Merry Christmas.
1:05:04
God bless you all. Thank you guys.
1:05:08
And I'll say it again, everybody.
1:05:10
Have a very happy Christmas, Merry Christmas, a Happy New
1:05:14
Year. Stay safe and we will see you in
1:05:17
2024. To all of our listeners.
1:05:34
Everyone, be safe. Have a Merry Christmas.
1:05:36
And a happy new year.