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  Speaker 1: I don't think the committee would leave out Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: because of the backlash that they got for leaving out
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  Speaker 1: Florida State. And you also have 12 teams now.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that'll help. But if you're Ohio State and
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  Speaker 1: let's say you go nine and three, but two of
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  Speaker 1: those losses are without saying. And then now I don't
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  Speaker 1: think saying comes back for the playoffs just for what
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  Speaker 1: it's worth. But let's say he did. If you're the
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  Speaker 1: committee and you see them lose two close games without
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  Speaker 1: saying and then saying was supposed to come back for
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  Speaker 1: the playoff, would you forgive those two losses? Would you say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to hold those two losses against them
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  Speaker 1: because he wasn't there. And with him, they're a different team.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not telling you what the committee– God, no one
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  Speaker 1: knows what the committee is going to do on a
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  Speaker 1: week-to-week basis or anything like that. But I could see
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  Speaker 1: that argument, and I could see it also pissing people off.
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  Speaker 1: But I could see that argument.
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  Speaker 2: It's possible.
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  Speaker 3: It's possible. The precedent is there for Florida State and
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  Speaker 3: Jordan Travis. It's similar but different. It's like, oh, Florida
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  Speaker 3: State was not given the benefit of the doubt or
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  Speaker 3: the respect for what their resume had been during the
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  Speaker 3: regular season. It's almost the inverse. It's like, well, it's
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State. They'll figure it out if you let them in.
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  Speaker 3: And then it's, oh, what's actually being reported? What's the
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  Speaker 3: truth about Julian Sands' health? Is Columbus just going to
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  Speaker 3: say smokescreens of like, hey, he's fine. He's going to
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  Speaker 3: be fine for the playoff. And the truth is he's not.
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  Speaker 3: and he's forced back too quickly or he's unavailable at all.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of ways it could go.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, they have to be, you're saying 9-3 and miss
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  Speaker 2: the Big Ten title game, right?
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because if they're 10-3 and they go to the
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  Speaker 2: Big Ten title game and they lose that, they're 100% it.
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  Speaker 2: Because Alabama is the factor of it from last season.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I agree.
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  Speaker 2: I said at the start of the year, the two
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  Speaker 2: teams that I would give grace to If they played
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  Speaker 2: up to par... And lost two games... I mean lost
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  Speaker 2: three games... Was Texas and Ohio State... Because they had
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  Speaker 2: the two toughest schedules in college football....
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  Speaker 3: Is it.
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  Speaker 2: It has to be close though... Like you have to
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  Speaker 2: lose on a game winning field goal to USC... And
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  Speaker 2: a last second Hail Mary... By Tommy Carr in the game...
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  Speaker 2: Then I would understand that being... If you're blown out
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  Speaker 2: in two of those games... No... I'm sorry... I'm not
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  Speaker 2: putting you in... There's no reason to... As much as
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  Speaker 2: I think your schedule is tough... The outlook is if
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  Speaker 2: I don't have saying out there and basically Jeremiah Smith's
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  Speaker 2: gone at this point, he's not he's not a Heisman
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  Speaker 2: finalist or anything along those lines. No, I don't put
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  Speaker 2: you in the playoff at nine and three. It has
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  Speaker 2: to look the part.
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  Speaker 1: to be the salty FSU fan. If they don't look
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  Speaker 1: as good without him and he's not there, you can't
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  Speaker 1: put him in. I don't care if they're 10-2. Like,
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  Speaker 1: that would be my hard line of this is if...
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  Speaker 1: if they mutter past a bad Oregon team, the way
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  Speaker 1: that Florida state muttered past, you know, playing good defense
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  Speaker 1: and winning 13 to 10, like the way that Florida
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  Speaker 1: state did in the ACC championship, if they just clearly
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  Speaker 1: don't look like the same team, I mean, it sucks,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm fine leaving them out again. And that's just very,
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  Speaker 1: if they don't look like a top 11 team in
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  Speaker 1: this country without saying, then what are we doing? You know,
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  Speaker 1: the precedent has been set. Now, if you can convince
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  Speaker 1: yourself that they still look like a top 11 team,
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  Speaker 1: And the Big Ten, you know, what's going to end
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  Speaker 1: up happening is the Big Ten is not going to
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  Speaker 1: have enough teams, you know, and so they're going to
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  Speaker 1: want to get that third one in because Indiana and
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  Speaker 1: UCLA make it. Then, yeah, if that's what they the
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  Speaker 1: logic they go with, then that's fine. But I do
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  Speaker 1: think it, you know, how it looks is important. Now,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, the committee is going to do. Dumb things,
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  Speaker 1: dumb things.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever you think they'll do, they'll do the opposite.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to try and appease Ohio State. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they come out and go undefeated the rest of the
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  Speaker 1: way they deserve to be in. But first of all,
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  Speaker 1: we need to see that. We need to see what
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  Speaker 1: it looks like. We need to see how all the
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  Speaker 1: rest of it shakes out. We're talking about maybe three
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  Speaker 1: Big 12 teams. We're talking about an SEC that's cannibalizing itself.
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  Speaker 1: Does Wake Forest make it back up into this thing?
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  Speaker 1: Does Notre Dame beat Miami to take up a spot?
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of other factors that go into this.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, what they look like is really,
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  Speaker 1: really important. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a way that you can leave out, let's
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  Speaker 2: say Ohio state at 10 and two, because it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: look good, but it's because of, you can slide another
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  Speaker 2: 10 and two team in there. So like the problem is,
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  Speaker 2: is that in here, here's where you run into it.
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  Speaker 2: Indiana doesn't have the head to head win over Ohio state.
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  Speaker 2: So therefore, if they're both sitting with one conference loss,
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  Speaker 2: Ohio state goes to the big 10 title game, but
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  Speaker 2: humor me. Let's say that at this point, USC beats
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State, and then they beat UCLA at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the year. Well, UCLA may be undefeated, and that's
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  Speaker 2: their only loss. What if USC goes to the Big
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  Speaker 2: Ten title game? And at 10-2, and it looks sloppy
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  Speaker 2: because of that, Ohio State can't go because they have
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  Speaker 2: the head-to-head loss to USC. Can you slide USC in
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  Speaker 2: and just leave Ohio State out? You still get a
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  Speaker 2: third Big Ten team in. It's just not the pretty logo.
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  Speaker 2: It's the other pretty logo.
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  Speaker 1: Head-to-head should trump and if you win with a backup
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  Speaker 1: quarterback then head-to-head should you know you looked good enough
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  Speaker 1: to at least be better than that team i think
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  Speaker 1: what you'd have to consider is what spots are already
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  Speaker 1: taken up well the big 12 is going to get
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  Speaker 1: one the acc is going to get one the big
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  Speaker 1: 10 is going to get one let's say that's not
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  Speaker 1: ohio state so you you're you're you got five right
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  Speaker 1: you got your five conference champs and you know four
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  Speaker 1: conference champs and your power fork Throw.
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  Speaker 2: BYU in there at 11-1 because if Notre Dame somehow
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  Speaker 2: gets in at 11-1, they'd have to get in at
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  Speaker 2: 11-1 even if they don't go to the Big Ten
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  Speaker 2: 12 title game. So that's two more.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Notre Dame and BYU. So you're up to seven.
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  Speaker 1: Your SEC runner-up is almost assuredly going. I think you
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  Speaker 1: just kind of accounted for your Big 12 runner-up, but
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  Speaker 1: there is this scenario that we talked about with the
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  Speaker 1: Big 12 getting three. I'm not willing to say that
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  Speaker 1: that's a lock just yet, but it does exist. The
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  Speaker 1: big 10 is going to get an extra one, whether
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  Speaker 1: that's Ohio state or not. Let's say, let's call it
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  Speaker 1: in UCLA right now. So then you're fighting this battle
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  Speaker 1: of like, okay. Nine in three, Texas versus 10 into
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  Speaker 1: Ohio state and having the head to head.
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  Speaker 2: Texas gets it.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly think Ohio state is out in that scenario. Does wake,
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  Speaker 1: does wake forest run the table? If Wake goes 11-1
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  Speaker 1: into the ACC championship and loses another close game to Miami,
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  Speaker 1: are you kicking them out for only losing to the
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  Speaker 1: number one team in the country twice?
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  Speaker 2: What was the final? It's the big question. Because if
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to penalize Ohio State for losing big, then
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  Speaker 2: I can penalize Wake Forest for losing big.
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  Speaker 1: They need to keep it within 14.
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  Speaker 3: It depends on how it looks for Ohio State. If
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  Speaker 3: it's Fahey, if it's somebody else at quarterback and it
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  Speaker 3: looks terrible, then That whole offense is built around getting
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  Speaker 3: the ball to number four aggressively. And if you can't
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  Speaker 3: do that, and you still somehow survive and say it
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  Speaker 3: is doubtful for the playoff stretch, I think the decision
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  Speaker 3: could get made.
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  Speaker 1: To be fair, we didn't talk about the SEC at
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  Speaker 1: all here. There's a lot of SEC teams still alive
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  Speaker 1: in this. Ole Miss, Tennessee, Kentucky. Kentucky. again, we talked
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  Speaker 1: about Texas. LSU is still very much alive with just
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  Speaker 1: two losses. Bama has two losses. Florida is still alive
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  Speaker 1: with just two losses. Now, if Florida, you know, is
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  Speaker 1: in this conversation now, they've beaten Georgia. They've beaten Kentucky.
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  Speaker 1: They've taken some other teams out along the way.
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  Speaker 2: Missouri. Missouri's still alive, technically.
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  Speaker 1: So, like, I think you're talking about an Ohio State that, now,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State goes 11-1. None of this matters.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But, Ohio State goes 10-2 and doesn't have their quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: and you've got a bunch of SEC 10-2 teams there
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  Speaker 1: at the end. That's tough, man. If Bama goes 10-2,
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  Speaker 1: if Bama wins out, which is maybe hard to imagine
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  Speaker 1: right now, but Bama and LSU play. The winner of
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  Speaker 1: that game, if they go unscathed the rest of the way,
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  Speaker 1: should be in. Tennessee, but you could make the same
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  Speaker 1: argument with Tennessee and LSU. They play each other in Knoxville.
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee and Kentucky. Yeah, so there could be enough cannibalization
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  Speaker 1: still left to happen to where the SEC runner-up has
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  Speaker 1: three losses before they get to, you know, like, that's
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  Speaker 1: not unfathomable where somebody goes to the SEC and SEC
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  Speaker 1: championship has three losses. Well, if that's the case, then yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if they take their fourth loss there, then I might
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  Speaker 1: slide Ohio State in. But I don't know, man. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's a lock for them. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they're a lock at 10-2. Some people should argue that
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  Speaker 1: they should be. I don't know. The president's there. We'll
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  Speaker 1: see what the committee wants to do.
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  Speaker 2: They're a lock at 10-2 if they go to the
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  Speaker 2: Big Ten title game. That, to me, is just a
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  Speaker 2: done deal. If you somehow, someway make it to the
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  Speaker 2: Big Ten title game, you have to be a lock
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  Speaker 2: to go. Because if any other team would be a
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  Speaker 2: lock in that situation, think about it. If they go
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  Speaker 2: to the Big Ten title game, and let's say Julian
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  Speaker 2: Sane got hurt in that game, you're not taking them
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  Speaker 2: out at that point. So just think about it that way.
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  Speaker 2: And this is also just a fair reminder, the same
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  Speaker 2: team that won a national title in 2014 with Cardell
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  Speaker 2: Jones starting for the first time in the playoff. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just saying. Weirder things happen. And Tom raised up a
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  Speaker 2: really good point. The offense is predicated on finding for
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  Speaker 2: the football as much as humanly possible. So if Fahey
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  Speaker 2: or St. Clair comes on in and does what he's
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  Speaker 2: supposed to do, which is be accurate, don't put the
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  Speaker 2: ball in harm's way, and spread it around enough to
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  Speaker 2: get defenses letting the open target downfield known as Jeremiah
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  Speaker 2: Smith find the end zone, they're probably losing one game.
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  Speaker 2: And they're probably going to the Indianapolis. And if they're
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  Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, they're in the playoff.
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  Speaker 1: We did not plan for that segment, but it was
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  Speaker 1: a fun one. Again, a lot to be decided. Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State has to play Oregon. They have to play Northwestern.
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  Speaker 1: They have to play USC. Are those in back-to-back-to-back weeks?
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  Speaker 1: And Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: There's one other game, I think, in between there. They
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  Speaker 2: have the bye week. They play USC next. Then they
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  Speaker 2: play Nebraska next. There's somebody else on the schedule.
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  Speaker 3: I'm blanking.
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  Speaker 2: UCLA. They play UCLA too?
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  Speaker 1: Were you talking about USC?
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about, I'm talking about, oh, Oregon is what
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking of, Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And Northwestern.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say, Ohio State's at SC, home
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  Speaker 3: against Oregon, home against Northwestern, at Nebraska, the game.
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  Speaker 2: Next game.
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  Speaker 3: With a backup quarterback?
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  Speaker 2: Two losses are very possible in that situation. And then
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  Speaker 2: it's 9-3 and it's a big point, potentially.