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- 1:44Speaker 1: How does a mom go missing, seemingly vanishing off the
- 1:49Speaker 1: face of the earth on a Sunday afternoon bike ride,
- 1:54Speaker 1: broad Delight. I'm talking about Suzanne Morphew Crime Stories with
- 2:07Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. I'm easy, Grace, this is crime stories. How
- 2:16Speaker 1: did she go missing? And Jackie? Is this significant to
- 2:19Speaker 1: you that she goes missing on Mother's Day? Now, yes,
- 2:24Speaker 1: that Sunday is not different from every other Sunday, Accept
- 2:28Speaker 1: that you celebrate moms. I always find it very let
- 2:34Speaker 1: me say, curious when someone goes missing or is killed
- 2:40Speaker 1: or Trasday befalls them on a particular holiday. It's kind
- 2:45Speaker 1: of a red flag you can't ignore. But let's go
- 2:49Speaker 1: to the source. Take a listen now to our friends
- 2:51Speaker 1: at CBS for Denver. Alan, Janette and she went biking
- 2:55Speaker 1: on Sunday. They're in the mountains about twenty miles west
- 2:59Speaker 1: of Salida, Trevor, and and then there was nothing from her.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Tell us what you do know, Alan, I'm I'm willing
- 3:11Speaker 1: to confirm that the bike was found on Sunday evening.
- 3:17Speaker 1: The bike was found on Sunday evening, the night that
- 3:20Speaker 1: she disappeared. And for more information, on the bike for
- 3:25Speaker 1: its condition. I would encourage you and everyone else to
- 3:29Speaker 1: contact the Chaffey County Sheriff's Department. Yeah, it has to
- 3:32Speaker 1: be disconcerting to know the bike has found. Sheriff has
- 3:35Speaker 1: said he does not believe that this was an animal,
- 3:39Speaker 1: and so all of Colorado has really ought to be
- 3:41Speaker 1: aware that there is a potential den Trevor, that she
- 3:43Speaker 1: might be somewhere well out of the county for all
- 3:46Speaker 1: we know, which is why we need to make sure
- 3:48Speaker 1: that we're aware of the situation. Okay, something is hank
- 3:51Speaker 1: you right there. Okay, it doesn't take a j D
- 3:54Speaker 1: to figure that out. Did you hear that, Jackie? The
- 3:57Speaker 1: way the nephew and why is the nephew speaking? Where's
- 4:01Speaker 1: the husband? Where's the children? But the nephew is speaking,
- 4:05Speaker 1: and the way he said it, he said, I'm willing
- 4:10Speaker 1: to confirm the bike has been found. I'm not suggesting
- 4:16Speaker 1: the nephew is in any way involved in Suzanne's disappearance.
- 4:21Speaker 1: He's out facing the cameras speaking, But that tells me
- 4:26Speaker 1: there's something unusual regarding the discovery of Susanne's bike. And
- 4:34Speaker 1: he was very tight lived about it with me. An
- 4:36Speaker 1: All Star panel to help determine what's happening to analyze
- 4:42Speaker 1: the clues left behind. First of all, trial lawyer and
- 4:46Speaker 1: judge anchor at Court TV Ashley Wilcot at Ashley Wilcot
- 4:50Speaker 1: dot com. Doctor Angela Arnold, renowned psychiatrists joining us out
- 4:55Speaker 1: of the Atlanta jurisdiction. Cloyd Steiger thirty six years Seattle
- 4:59Speaker 1: PD twenty two. That homicide, that's something, can't sneeze at that.
- 5:04Speaker 1: Author of Seattle's Forgotten serial Killer, Gary Jane Grant at
- 5:08Speaker 1: Cloyd Steiger dot com, Professor Forensics Jacksonville State University and
- 5:13Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon. Death investigator
- 5:18Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan. But first to Crime online dot Com
- 5:22Speaker 1: investigative reporter Nicole Parton. I got a lot of questions
- 5:27Speaker 1: regarding this, but let's just start with the timeline. Mother's Day.
- 5:33Speaker 1: She goes for a bycride on Mother's Day. In the afternoon,
- 5:39Speaker 1: she's reported missing by neighbors at six pm. I believe
- 5:45Speaker 1: husband is one hundred and fifty miles away in Denver
- 5:49Speaker 1: on Mother's Day. But hey, that's just three hours if
- 5:53Speaker 1: you're going sixty mph. Jane stop wants to go to
- 5:55Speaker 1: the bathroom. So Nicole parton with that in mind, tell
- 5:59Speaker 1: me what you know. Yes, Nancy, forty nine year old
- 6:02Speaker 1: mom missing and apparently it's her next door neighbor that
- 6:06Speaker 1: alerts authorities. She sees her and knows that she's headed
- 6:10Speaker 1: out on the bike ride late in the afternoon. When
- 6:12Speaker 1: she doesn't return, the neighbor gets concerned and calls authority.
- 6:16Speaker 1: Now I've looked at her pictures. You have two beautiful
- 6:19Speaker 1: forty nine year old mother, very fit and in shape.
- 6:23Speaker 1: It was not uncommon for her to go out for
- 6:25Speaker 1: a bike ride. Do you know that? Do you know
- 6:28Speaker 1: that to be a fact. We know that according to
- 6:30Speaker 1: the next door neighbor, they had seen her go out
- 6:33Speaker 1: for bike ride several times. Questions question next door neighbor
- 6:37Speaker 1: male or female? Female? Good to know because I'm wondering,
- 6:41Speaker 1: how does the next door neighbor know so much about
- 6:43Speaker 1: this woman that there I was wondering if it was
- 6:46Speaker 1: a creepy stalker next door neighbor. But no, it's not.
- 6:49Speaker 1: I can tell you statistically it's not. If it's a woman,
- 6:54Speaker 1: how does a woman know that she left for the
- 6:57Speaker 1: bike ride and then no, by six o'clock she's not
- 7:00Speaker 1: where she's supposed to be. Maybe they were supposed to
- 7:03Speaker 1: have dinner together. Who knows, Maybe she called me. Do
- 7:07Speaker 1: you know why the neighbor realized something was a miss
- 7:10Speaker 1: at six pm? The only thing we know is that
- 7:12Speaker 1: she told authorities that it was getting dark, it was
- 7:15Speaker 1: getting late, and she knew she should have been back by. Now,
- 7:18Speaker 1: can I tell you about an unconfirmed report? Nicole? We
- 7:22Speaker 1: have an unconfirmed report the daughter, she has two daughters. Correct,
- 7:27Speaker 1: call the neighbor and asked her to call Jack. You're
- 7:32Speaker 1: saying she asked her to call the mom or asked
- 7:34Speaker 1: her to call police. So, in any event, you're correct
- 7:39Speaker 1: that it is the neighbor. I was wondering what prompted
- 7:43Speaker 1: the neighbor to realize that Suzanne was missing, and that
- 7:47Speaker 1: maybe a small detail, but we can all agree that
- 7:50Speaker 1: small details matter. Here. You pick it up from there, Sorry, Nicole,
- 7:52Speaker 1: go ahead, no problem. So authorities are alerted and they
- 7:56Speaker 1: begin the search. As you said, husband is one hundred
- 7:59Speaker 1: and fifty the way out of town. They're being very
- 8:02Speaker 1: tight lipped. Her family is not speaking, except for the nephew.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Husband has lawyered up. He's been able to do several interviews. Wait. Wait, wait, wait,
- 8:12Speaker 1: what did you just say? The husband lawyered up? That's correct.
- 8:16Speaker 1: What kind of lawyer? Do you know who the lawyer is?
- 8:18Speaker 1: I don't. I wasn't given that information. I just know
- 8:21Speaker 1: that the lawyers. I'd be curious to know if the
- 8:24Speaker 1: lawyer is a criminal defense lawyer. Just out of curiosity,
- 8:30Speaker 1: he lawyered up, you know, speaking of what you just said,
- 8:35Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcott, judge, trial lawyer, court deem me anchor. Ash
- 8:39Speaker 1: I was wondering why it was the nephew out there
- 8:42Speaker 1: hitting the airwaves, but in the last hours the husband
- 8:46Speaker 1: has finally come forward and spoken. Jack. Can you play
- 8:51Speaker 1: what the husby just said? Oh, Susanne. If anyone is
- 8:55Speaker 1: out there, I can hear this that has you, Please
- 9:02Speaker 1: do whatever it takes to bring you back. We love you,
- 9:05Speaker 1: we miss you. Your girls need you. No questions asked,
- 9:10Speaker 1: however much they want, I will do whatever it takes
- 9:14Speaker 1: to get you back. I love you, Okay, Ashley, I'm
- 9:20Speaker 1: just a JD all right. I only know how to
- 9:22Speaker 1: try cases. That that's it, and cook in the crop pot.
- 9:25Speaker 1: The girls miss you. I'm trying to analyze every word,
- 9:32Speaker 1: and Ashley, I'm not saying the guys responsible. But I
- 9:35Speaker 1: am saying that that's where the investigation will always start.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Barn one with hobby lover, ex boyfriend living, that's where
- 9:44Speaker 1: we start, jump in Ash well exactly. And he didn't
- 9:48Speaker 1: say I miss you, I'm worried, I'm concerned. And he
- 9:51Speaker 1: also made another statement that was fascinating to me, and
- 9:53Speaker 1: he said no questions asked. I felt like he was
- 9:57Speaker 1: blaming her, meaning he has information or knows more. That's
- 10:03Speaker 1: a really good point. I mean, maybe he's trying to say,
- 10:07Speaker 1: Lloyd Steiger, no questions asked, I won't go after you,
- 10:10Speaker 1: just bring her home alive. Could be that, but Ash
- 10:14Speaker 1: is right, why would you say no questions asked? And
- 10:18Speaker 1: I don't want to parse words. I want to find
- 10:21Speaker 1: this woman. But what do you make of the circumstances
- 10:24Speaker 1: so far? Also, Lloyd, they're not telling us. And I've
- 10:27Speaker 1: tried to find out where the bike was found in
- 10:30Speaker 1: relation to the home. And also we know that a
- 10:35Speaker 1: personal item was found that is hers about I think
- 10:41Speaker 1: about three hundred feet or so from the home. So
- 10:47Speaker 1: what's that item because that would indicate to me that's
- 10:50Speaker 1: where the attack took place. If she's on a bike
- 10:54Speaker 1: and she's a veteran biker. Would she have dropped an
- 10:57Speaker 1: item by accident and not gone to get up? Where's
- 11:01Speaker 1: her cell phone? Was it activated? As she have fine
- 11:04Speaker 1: my iPhone app? And where the bike is? And the
- 11:09Speaker 1: condition of the bike. Because you heard the nephew say,
- 11:13Speaker 1: I'm willing to confirm the bike was found, but he
- 11:17Speaker 1: sounded like he'd been instructing not to say anything else.
- 11:19Speaker 1: Why do you make mccloyd. Yeah, I think you know
- 11:22Speaker 1: when I heard that, no questions that same two that
- 11:24Speaker 1: were into Red flight for me? What do you mean
- 11:25Speaker 1: by that? I mean if my wife was missing or
- 11:28Speaker 1: something like that. First of all, I wouldn't lawyer up.
- 11:30Speaker 1: I mean, he has a right to get a lawyer,
- 11:31Speaker 1: but I wouldn't lawyer up. I'd be out there every
- 11:33Speaker 1: day in front of the news begging for help. I
- 11:36Speaker 1: wouldn't send a nephew out to be my spokesman. Uh,
- 11:40Speaker 1: you know it sounds like, well, first of all, I'm
- 11:41Speaker 1: sure that this dament he made was parted with his
- 11:43Speaker 1: attorney before he made it. But you know, and what
- 11:47Speaker 1: was it? I don't know where was the bike found?
- 11:49Speaker 1: That's pretty important. You think they'd give you the area
- 11:51Speaker 1: the bike resound. Some people that area if they thought
- 11:53Speaker 1: something would know to look for the exactly crime stories
- 12:12Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're talking about the disappearance of
- 12:17Speaker 1: a mom, Susanne Morphew, beautiful mother of two girls. The
- 12:24Speaker 1: husband is one hundred and fifty miles away in Denver,
- 12:27Speaker 1: and I'd be all over that like a cheap suit.
- 12:31Speaker 1: What hotel is their surveillance video of the hotel, in
- 12:34Speaker 1: the hotel of him going in his room, did he
- 12:36Speaker 1: come out of his room? What time? It's only three
- 12:39Speaker 1: hours away. And again I'm not saying he had anything
- 12:42Speaker 1: to do with this. I'm saying that's where you start
- 12:44Speaker 1: the investigation. And if anybody disagrees, jump in and explain why.
- 12:49Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen now to our
- 12:52Speaker 1: friends at crimealline dot com. This is Dave Mack. Listen.
- 12:57Speaker 1: Susanne Morphew went missing from Maysville, Colorado. This small community
- 13:01Speaker 1: has a population under one hundred and thirty five according
- 13:04Speaker 1: to the two ten census, and average home prices are
- 13:07Speaker 1: around five hundred thousand dollars. Search efforts began when the
- 13:10Speaker 1: mom of two did not return after a bike ride
- 13:13Speaker 1: on Mother's Day. Reports say a neighbor called to report
- 13:16Speaker 1: more few missing. But we've also heard reports that it
- 13:19Speaker 1: was one of Morphew's two daughters who asked the neighbor
- 13:22Speaker 1: to contact police when she could not reach her mother.
- 13:24Speaker 1: Morphew and her husband, Barry, moved from Indiana about two
- 13:27Speaker 1: years ago. She was a middle school teacher. He owned
- 13:30Speaker 1: landscaping companies. He's also a volunteer fireman while Susanne Moore
- 13:34Speaker 1: a few opened a nonprofit for children in need called
- 13:37Speaker 1: Hope Network Incorporated. I'm trying to just take in all
- 13:41Speaker 1: that information. So he owned a landscaping company. That's just
- 13:48Speaker 1: opening up a plethora of possibilities, all the properties where
- 13:55Speaker 1: he has worked, all the people that work for him
- 13:59Speaker 1: and the landscaping companies. This woman did not leave of
- 14:04Speaker 1: her own volition and stage her bike right now, it's
- 14:08Speaker 1: my understanding that police are not releasing any information regarding
- 14:14Speaker 1: the condition or the location of the bike, or what
- 14:17Speaker 1: the quote personal item is that they found. You know,
- 14:21Speaker 1: Nicole Parton, we got carried away and ran down a
- 14:23Speaker 1: rabbit hole. Go back to where you left off and
- 14:26Speaker 1: tell me what you know, please sure, Nancy. So the
- 14:29Speaker 1: nextdoor neighbor calls authorities and they began this search, and
- 14:32Speaker 1: of course they reach out to the children and the husband,
- 14:35Speaker 1: and it says though she vanished in thin air, the
- 14:38Speaker 1: bike trail that supposedly she went is very safe. There
- 14:41Speaker 1: are people in the area who bike there as well,
- 14:43Speaker 1: who say there's never been an incident of anything happening.
- 14:46Speaker 1: They don't believe that it had anything to do with
- 14:48Speaker 1: a wild animal attack. They're calling this very suspicious and
- 14:52Speaker 1: of course I'm missing the missing person case. They don't
- 14:55Speaker 1: know what happened. They're being tight lips. We don't know
- 14:58Speaker 1: if she had a cell phone with her, We don't
- 15:01Speaker 1: know what personal item was found right there near the home.
- 15:04Speaker 1: But we also know that, in addition to owning these
- 15:08Speaker 1: landscaping companies, her husband has a net worth of close
- 15:11Speaker 1: to three million dollars. So could this have been something
- 15:14Speaker 1: to do with a ransom? Could this have been something
- 15:16Speaker 1: to do with kidnapping for money. There's so many different
- 15:19Speaker 1: areas that could be questioned. Well too, is that Joe
- 15:23Speaker 1: Scott jumping in Joseph Scott Morgan kidnapped for ransom? Where's
- 15:26Speaker 1: their answer that? Yeah, no, kidneys ns the one and
- 15:28Speaker 1: we don't know about it. And police aren't saying anything.
- 15:31Speaker 1: That's something I'd be very interested. And I was just
- 15:33Speaker 1: taking a look at satellite image of the home and
- 15:36Speaker 1: it is, I don't know, by my standards, pretty impressive.
- 15:41Speaker 1: And this is in a very isolated area. But one
- 15:43Speaker 1: significant thing here. Their home sits just off of Highway fifty,
- 15:49Speaker 1: which is like an old federal highway, and it's kind
- 15:52Speaker 1: of a main thoroughfare that runs down there. She would
- 15:55Speaker 1: have when she exited the home, she would have had
- 15:58Speaker 1: to have made a left heading back toward town on
- 16:02Speaker 1: this road on her bike. That item that they keep
- 16:06Speaker 1: referring to that they haven't specifically identified, was found about
- 16:10Speaker 1: three tenths of a mile away from the home, on
- 16:13Speaker 1: the right hand side, the side of the road she
- 16:16Speaker 1: would have been riding on, and it's adjacent to the trail.
- 16:19Speaker 1: I think, so that's roughly five hundred yards if you
- 16:23Speaker 1: want to compute that this happened. If this happened right there, Nancy,
- 16:28Speaker 1: it happened almost immediately, like as soon as she turned
- 16:32Speaker 1: out onto that road. That's significant. That means that somebody
- 16:36Speaker 1: may have been watching her. You know another thing that
- 16:38Speaker 1: you just sparked memory, Joe Scott, do you remember Dylan
- 16:43Speaker 1: and Shasta Grone, the two little children that were kidnapped
- 16:46Speaker 1: in Cordelone, Idaho, and the whole family was massacred and
- 16:51Speaker 1: they were taken. They were held repeatedly molested. The little boy,
- 16:56Speaker 1: Dylan was raped over and over and over, and he
- 17:00Speaker 1: would be strangled to death or near death and then
- 17:04Speaker 1: resuscitated and then it would start over and over and over.
- 17:08Speaker 1: And they caught the perp because he took Shasta to
- 17:15Speaker 1: like seven to eleven and she was walking around behind him,
- 17:18Speaker 1: and somebody recognized her photo after seeing her on TV.
- 17:24Speaker 1: We had been covering out like every night on HLN.
- 17:28Speaker 1: Long story short, he happened to be driving down the
- 17:32Speaker 1: interstate that perp and spite of the children playing in
- 17:36Speaker 1: an above ground pool. Totally unconnected. So you're telling me
- 17:43Speaker 1: this is right off oh Highway fifty, correct, Yeah, also
- 17:46Speaker 1: Highway fifty. You know. One of the things that just
- 17:49Speaker 1: strikes me about this. I want to know more information
- 17:52Speaker 1: about this bicycle because I don't know where it was found.
- 17:55Speaker 1: Let's just say, for instance, just you know, indulge me
- 17:58Speaker 1: just for a second. Let's say that this person pulled
- 18:00Speaker 1: up alongside of her and nudged her off of the road.
- 18:03Speaker 1: There's going to be significant damage, probably contact damage to
- 18:08Speaker 1: that bike. She would have more than likely if she'd
- 18:11Speaker 1: been bumped off of the bike and disabled in some way,
- 18:15Speaker 1: she would have injuries to her body, maybe a leg injury,
- 18:18Speaker 1: hip injury, maybe even a head injury. But they have
- 18:21Speaker 1: the bike, so I'm wondering if we've got transfer evidence
- 18:25Speaker 1: like paint from a vehicle that has attached itself onto
- 18:28Speaker 1: the bike, you know, when these two things scrubbed together,
- 18:31Speaker 1: that's going to be significant. And also was the bike
- 18:34Speaker 1: actually run over, you know, and that that could go
- 18:37Speaker 1: to things like trace evidence relative to tires, did it
- 18:42Speaker 1: get caught beneath the vehicle? And it raises all kinds
- 18:46Speaker 1: a myriad of questions from a forensics fandpoint of course
- 18:49Speaker 1: that what may have happened to her at that moment time?
- 18:52Speaker 1: And what was that personal item? Was it a set
- 18:55Speaker 1: of headphones? Was it a phone, was it a watch?
- 18:58Speaker 1: I don't know what it would have been. That would
- 19:00Speaker 1: have been a specific and this is a significant, a
- 19:03Speaker 1: specific tie back to her. They said it's her personal item,
- 19:07Speaker 1: not somebody else's, but her, So it means it's got
- 19:09Speaker 1: an identifier. I can tell you one thing, the bike
- 19:13Speaker 1: was found at a different location I think than the
- 19:18Speaker 1: personal item, because the first thing we hear, well, actually
- 19:23Speaker 1: they wouldn't say anything about whether the bike was found
- 19:25Speaker 1: at the get go. They kept that a secret, and
- 19:27Speaker 1: I wonder why. And based on what the nephew is saying,
- 19:31Speaker 1: how he was so mysterious about the bike's condition, That
- 19:35Speaker 1: tells me it's a huge evidentiary clue. But then later,
- 19:40Speaker 1: like forty eight hours later or more, we hear, oh, update,
- 19:45Speaker 1: a personal item has been found. That suggests do you
- 19:48Speaker 1: agree or disagree Joe Scott that the personal item was
- 19:51Speaker 1: found in a different location than the bike or it
- 19:54Speaker 1: would have come out at the same time. Yeah, it could,
- 19:56Speaker 1: it could have been. Just let me kind of follow
- 19:58Speaker 1: this line of logic. If the bike was found in
- 20:02Speaker 1: a different location. Just y'all follow me just for a
- 20:04Speaker 1: second here. If she got knocked off and was subdued
- 20:09Speaker 1: in some way, you know, bike's going to draw attention
- 20:11Speaker 1: if it's just laying out. I mean, we've all driven
- 20:13Speaker 1: down these these old US highways like this. They're pretty sizeable.
- 20:17Speaker 1: It's not like some little country road that bike would
- 20:20Speaker 1: draw attention. That means that potentially there was a vehicle
- 20:23Speaker 1: big enough to accommodate that bike. Maybe they threw the
- 20:26Speaker 1: bike into the into the car and drove it to
- 20:30Speaker 1: a different location so it wouldn't draw attention, and then
- 20:33Speaker 1: they hit it or sequestered it somewhere. And of course
- 20:36Speaker 1: she's missing, and that's significant. I do know that they
- 20:40Speaker 1: got out what are called swiftwater swiftwater searchers, which are
- 20:45Speaker 1: kind of like a dive team, but they're they're set
- 20:48Speaker 1: up to do whitewater searches. You know, the Arkansas River
- 20:52Speaker 1: runs through this area. That is a serious river that
- 20:55Speaker 1: like canoers and rafters go down. We're in a very
- 20:58Speaker 1: rugged area of our country in this area, Nancy, and
- 21:01Speaker 1: so you're going to have a very complex areas that
- 21:06Speaker 1: kind of search for evidence here. And it takes a
- 21:09Speaker 1: keen eye. They're looking in these rivers for her for
- 21:12Speaker 1: whatever reason, because they went to their trouble to bring
- 21:14Speaker 1: these people in crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, where
- 21:33Speaker 1: is Suzanne Morphew who seemingly vanishes just boof disappears in
- 21:40Speaker 1: broad daylight. Take a listen to our friends at CBS
- 21:44Speaker 1: for Denver News. This is Alan Jannette. The hardest thing
- 21:47Speaker 1: She's a beloved member of her family and the sweetest
- 21:51Speaker 1: person that you've ever met, The nephew of forty nine
- 21:53Speaker 1: year old Suzanne More, if you talking about what it's
- 21:56Speaker 1: like to go through the difficulty of a search that
- 21:58Speaker 1: started after when missing during a Sunday bike cry. Family
- 22:02Speaker 1: has said her husband, Barry, was out of town in Denver.
- 22:05Speaker 1: A friend called authorities when more Few didn't return. The
- 22:09Speaker 1: bike was found on Sunday, the day as she would missing.
- 22:12Speaker 1: The sheriff has not yet shared information on the bike,
- 22:14Speaker 1: but has told CBS for the reason for her disappearances
- 22:17Speaker 1: probably not animals. Extensive searching in Chiefee County, about twenty
- 22:22Speaker 1: miles west of Salida, has not brought an answer on
- 22:25Speaker 1: what happened to More. A few guys, we're talking about
- 22:28Speaker 1: a gorgeous you know, mom, Suzanne Morephew, and I'm getting
- 22:33Speaker 1: more questions than answers right now. Once again we hear
- 22:37Speaker 1: the nephew speaking out the bike found and announced separate
- 22:43Speaker 1: from the personal item, let's bring in the panel joining me.
- 22:47Speaker 1: Doctor Angela Arnold, psychiatrist in the Atlanta jurisdiction. Why the
- 22:51Speaker 1: nephew and now the husband? Several days later posts a
- 22:56Speaker 1: Facebook video. Interesting. Can't take questions on Facebook video? Go ahead,
- 23:02Speaker 1: doctor Angela, It's very interesting. I'll tell you something to
- 23:06Speaker 1: to see a question that's burning inside of me. Why
- 23:09Speaker 1: did they Why did they move there two years ago?
- 23:12Speaker 1: I'm just wondering about that. And how how close is
- 23:16Speaker 1: the nephew to this woman? Well, you know, my mems
- 23:20Speaker 1: are very close to me because you know, they came
- 23:24Speaker 1: along before I had my own children, so they were
- 23:26Speaker 1: like children to me. And my nephews and my niece
- 23:31Speaker 1: very close and have always considered them like my own children.
- 23:36Speaker 1: I do believe they came here for They came to
- 23:39Speaker 1: Colorado for early retirement. They you know, stashed away somehow
- 23:44Speaker 1: three million bucks had a half a million dollar home
- 23:47Speaker 1: in a beautiful area in Colorado. Gorgeous area. By the way,
- 23:51Speaker 1: I hiked there many many times. Long story short, I
- 23:54Speaker 1: think that's why they were there. I asked the same question,
- 23:57Speaker 1: doctor Angela, Why move if you're happy and doing well
- 24:01Speaker 1: where you are. I'm just curious about the whole thing.
- 24:06Speaker 1: Floyd Steiger with me, Ashley Willcot with me, Ashley to
- 24:10Speaker 1: you again, nobody's pointing the finger at the husband, but
- 24:15Speaker 1: being one hundred and fifty miles away. I mean, that's
- 24:18Speaker 1: nothing that's less than three hours away. I've just got
- 24:23Speaker 1: to figure out the timing here. And you have to
- 24:26Speaker 1: start with the husband first. No offense to him, Ash,
- 24:29Speaker 1: Absolutely you do, because that's what you always do. Often
- 24:32Speaker 1: perpetrators are ones that we know are the person that
- 24:34Speaker 1: we lived with, that we're closest to. So one of
- 24:37Speaker 1: the things that I don't have yet that I would
- 24:39Speaker 1: like to have established is the timeline. Exactly what you said, Okay,
- 24:43Speaker 1: we've heard the husband with one hundred and fifty miles away,
- 24:46Speaker 1: but what time did he leave the house? Where did
- 24:49Speaker 1: he go when he was one hundred and fifty miles away?
- 24:52Speaker 1: Do in fact they have like a GPS tracker from
- 24:54Speaker 1: his phone from his car to know if he stayed
- 24:57Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty miles away all day or not.
- 25:00Speaker 1: The timeline has not been established in terms of everything
- 25:04Speaker 1: I've seen in the coverage yet to know exactly who
- 25:07Speaker 1: was where when, which are very important pieces to start
- 25:11Speaker 1: an investigation. And I'd like to know about her phone.
- 25:14Speaker 1: It's hard for me to believe you we'd leave it
- 25:17Speaker 1: behind even on a bike ride. I mean, I make
- 25:21Speaker 1: my children, you know, I go out with them, have
- 25:23Speaker 1: their phone with them, not to look at on the
- 25:25Speaker 1: bike ride, but to have with them. Let's take a
- 25:29Speaker 1: listen to w k WGN Craig and Nieto's Channel two.
- 25:35Speaker 1: Day three of the search for forty nine year olds
- 25:38Speaker 1: Shusanne Morphew, the Chiefe County wife and mother, first reported
- 25:41Speaker 1: missing late Sunday afternoon. The search intensifying today along Highway
- 25:46Speaker 1: fifty at the base of Monarch Pass. Today, I've got
- 25:49Speaker 1: different types of searching dogs in the area. Gone back
- 25:54Speaker 1: over the same area again. Sunday afternoon, Morphew had set
- 25:57Speaker 1: out for a bike ride along County Road to twenty
- 26:00Speaker 1: five and West Hiwe fifty. Chiefee County's sheriff says social
- 26:04Speaker 1: media is actually getting to places where search crews cannot
- 26:09Speaker 1: well over about one hundred and eighty thousand, well over
- 26:12Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty thousand people on Facebook, I thought
- 26:14Speaker 1: he's down south. Day four ends with promising news. We've
- 26:19Speaker 1: brought on a lot of extra help to work on
- 26:21Speaker 1: this case, and we're just looking for anything we can
- 26:23Speaker 1: to try to find her. Now. I did ask us
- 26:25Speaker 1: for more of few. If he's interested in making a
- 26:27Speaker 1: public plea, he says at this point, it's simply too soon.
- 26:30Speaker 1: Too soon? What was he waiting on? Guys? Also, in
- 26:34Speaker 1: the public play he released on Facebook, taking no Questions,
- 26:38Speaker 1: he says, I'll I will do whatever it takes to
- 26:41Speaker 1: get you back, Honey. I love you. I want you
- 26:44Speaker 1: back so bad. You know, people react to this kind
- 26:48Speaker 1: of situation differently. I remember when my husband, I don't
- 26:53Speaker 1: know if I told you this story, Joe Scott Morgan,
- 26:55Speaker 1: when he has to travel a lot with his business,
- 26:59Speaker 1: he always text or calls the minute he touches down,
- 27:02Speaker 1: so I don't have to worry. And then when he
- 27:06Speaker 1: usually will text when he goes to supper, like hey,
- 27:10Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm having umji whatever. And then he old
- 27:15Speaker 1: text or call when he gets to a hotel and
- 27:18Speaker 1: he's safe, and I don't expect him to break into
- 27:21Speaker 1: his busy day to call me and have a big,
- 27:25Speaker 1: long conversation. But he went to Florida and he texted
- 27:29Speaker 1: when he landed, and I was super busy at that bay,
- 27:31Speaker 1: so I saw the text. I was happy, and then
- 27:33Speaker 1: I didn't ever hear from him again, and I was
- 27:36Speaker 1: convinced that, you know, somebody in the parking lot and
- 27:39Speaker 1: hit him on the head, or he got to a
- 27:41Speaker 1: hotel room and had a heart attack. You do know,
- 27:45Speaker 1: Joe Scott. I made d who works with me, wake
- 27:48Speaker 1: her up at one o'clock in the morning, and we
- 27:51Speaker 1: spend till six a m. Calling every hospital in hotel
- 27:55Speaker 1: in the area. I don't even remember what town it was.
- 27:57Speaker 1: I think it was winter Haven, Florida, until we found
- 28:01Speaker 1: d found his hotel and I tore. I tried to
- 28:05Speaker 1: be nice to start with, but finally I tore the
- 28:07Speaker 1: poor night clerk and you well, you know what until
- 28:12Speaker 1: he went to the room with his cell phone turned
- 28:17Speaker 1: on and on the door, and you could hear David
- 28:22Speaker 1: come to the door and he said, your wife's gonna
- 28:26Speaker 1: call you on your hotel room. And he was fine.
- 28:28Speaker 1: He was just exhausted and fell asleep with his iPad
- 28:32Speaker 1: open and his cell phone sitting by him on the bed.
- 28:36Speaker 1: So I mean, the moment I think he's missing, I
- 28:39Speaker 1: started trying to do everything I could. So what does
- 28:43Speaker 1: that mean It's too soon to ask the public for help? Yeah,
- 28:47Speaker 1: I don't know what it means. And back to your
- 28:49Speaker 1: first point there, I think that goes along. Obviously, our
- 28:52Speaker 1: reaction goes along with the nature of what we do
- 28:55Speaker 1: for a living. You know, I'm always terrified something's going
- 28:58Speaker 1: to happen to my loved ones like this because of
- 29:00Speaker 1: all the stuff we cover. But to this point, I
- 29:04Speaker 1: tell you something else that's kind of curious for me. Uh.
- 29:07Speaker 1: You know, I'm just an old Southern boy. And you know,
- 29:09Speaker 1: you start Mother's Day right, okay, Mother's Day, and I'm thinking,
- 29:13Speaker 1: why why don't you watch you with your children on
- 29:16Speaker 1: that day? Uh? You know, maybe he's maybe his models
- 29:20Speaker 1: and caught in Denver. I have no idea, but you know,
- 29:23Speaker 1: for me, I better be standing tall at the house
- 29:26Speaker 1: with my wife, the mother of my children, and we
- 29:28Speaker 1: better be maybe over at at my in law's house,
- 29:31Speaker 1: you know, visiting my mother in law or my mother.
- 29:33Speaker 1: But we're gonna be together as a family. Not so
- 29:36Speaker 1: much on Father's Day, but on Mother's Day. That that's
- 29:39Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of odd to me. And so
- 29:43Speaker 1: that's one of the things that really kind of raises
- 29:45Speaker 1: a flag from me. And again, you know, we're not
- 29:48Speaker 1: accusing for me too, questions, don't we You know, when
- 29:51Speaker 1: you get married and you say I do you you
- 29:54Speaker 1: situate yourself and you better expect that you're the first
- 29:57Speaker 1: one cops come to when anything go sideways. And I
- 30:01Speaker 1: got to tell you something to doctor Angela Arnold, why
- 30:03Speaker 1: is this. I don't give a fig about my birthday.
- 30:06Speaker 1: I love everybody else's but never have but Mother's Day.
- 30:10Speaker 1: I mean, that's my crowning achievement, that the twins Mother's Day.
- 30:15Speaker 1: That's why is he one hundred and fifty miles away?
- 30:18Speaker 1: And I still don't understand this comment whatever he said
- 30:21Speaker 1: about no questions asked, no questions asked? What is going on?
- 30:27Speaker 1: All these little nefarious things that people are saying. There's
- 30:31Speaker 1: so much underlying us. You don't leave your wife on
- 30:34Speaker 1: Mother's Day? I'm sorry. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, guys,
- 30:53Speaker 1: we are learning so much more about disappearing mom Suzanne.
- 30:59Speaker 1: We're learning, for instance, reports that her bike brakes were locked.
- 31:08Speaker 1: What does it mean bike breakes locked? Let's go to you,
- 31:14Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan and Cloyd's Tiger. What does that mean
- 31:18Speaker 1: to you? Is that significant? Joseph jo Scott Morgan? If
- 31:21Speaker 1: it's true, well, yeah, and again that's that's kind of
- 31:24Speaker 1: a cryptic kind of way to describe that. I'm wondering
- 31:28Speaker 1: if maybe she didn't apply the brakes, you know, the
- 31:31Speaker 1: handbrakes that you have up on the handlebars, in such
- 31:34Speaker 1: a manner that it locked down at the moment time
- 31:38Speaker 1: when maybe she was approached by a vehicle. Maybe there's
- 31:41Speaker 1: an independent way to lock the brakes on a vehicle
- 31:44Speaker 1: so that the tires don't spend. Remember these bikes that
- 31:48Speaker 1: people have, particularly in these areas, are very very expensive,
- 31:51Speaker 1: and so they have kind of fail saves on them
- 31:53Speaker 1: to prevent like tires from getting out a line and
- 31:56Speaker 1: this sort of thing. So maybe it's locked down to
- 31:58Speaker 1: prevent that. That's something that we would need to explore more.
- 32:01Speaker 1: I'd like to know if it happened in a sudden moment,
- 32:05Speaker 1: like we say in forensic medicine and an acute moment,
- 32:09Speaker 1: or was it something that she had done independent or
- 32:12Speaker 1: maybe somebody locked them down so they wouldn't spin around
- 32:14Speaker 1: in a vehicle that the car that the vehicle was
- 32:17Speaker 1: being that the bicycle was being transported in to cloy
- 32:20Speaker 1: Stiger or Tory six year Seattle, Pg. Twenty two. Homicide
- 32:24Speaker 1: questions mounting as Suzanne Moorephy remains missing now one week
- 32:30Speaker 1: cloy S Tiger, If you were there on that scene,
- 32:33Speaker 1: what would you be asking? What would you be doing? Well,
- 32:36Speaker 1: first of all, I would I would like actually said,
- 32:41Speaker 1: I believe that Why was this her husband one hundred
- 32:44Speaker 1: and fifty miles away or wherever he was? What was
- 32:46Speaker 1: going on that he had to be there? This guy
- 32:47Speaker 1: sounds like a pretty well there. He was a business owner.
- 32:50Speaker 1: The acticles there on a Sunday on Mother's Day, and
- 32:52Speaker 1: then I, of course you want to look for you know,
- 32:55Speaker 1: I can have a lot of commercial surveillance video there,
- 32:56Speaker 1: but if you went by houses, there's a lot of prices. Wait, wait,
- 33:00Speaker 1: hold it, hold it, hold it Cloyd coronavirus. Who is
- 33:04Speaker 1: going to travel out of town and hold up in
- 33:07Speaker 1: a hotel on Mother's Day during coronavirus? Yeah, that's another thing.
- 33:12Speaker 1: What's going on there? What's happening that makes this guy
- 33:14Speaker 1: be one hundred and fifty miles away? Maybe he was
- 33:17Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty miles away because he wanted to
- 33:19Speaker 1: be away when something happened that he'd set up with
- 33:21Speaker 1: somebody else. Those are questions I'd ask. Again, it's almost
- 33:24Speaker 1: always the husband doesn't mean he did in this case,
- 33:27Speaker 1: but you have to be prudent and started. Yeah, you
- 33:29Speaker 1: have to and again, he is not a person of interest,
- 33:32Speaker 1: He is not a suspect. Nothing like that has been said.
- 33:35Speaker 1: We also know, as Joe Scott indicated earlier, the Chaffee
- 33:38Speaker 1: County Sheriff's office has been looking at white water. They're
- 33:42Speaker 1: doing fast water dive searches with a whole nother animal
- 33:46Speaker 1: of diving. But they've also asked neighbors to preserve surveillance video.
- 33:52Speaker 1: And you know, when you got a house to Cole
- 33:54Speaker 1: parton Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter, that's a half
- 33:57Speaker 1: a million dollars or more, you know they're going to
- 33:59Speaker 1: be doubt totally was surveillance video. So they're asking neighbors
- 34:04Speaker 1: if they have any now catch this from May eight
- 34:09Speaker 1: to May twelve? Whoa why are they asking for video
- 34:16Speaker 1: from May eight to May twelve? What about that Nicole? Oh?
- 34:20Speaker 1: Have you heard that? I had heard that. We don't
- 34:23Speaker 1: know why, but it would lead us to believe that
- 34:25Speaker 1: they want to see who's coming, who's going, what's happening
- 34:29Speaker 1: during all of those days? Are they watching the husband,
- 34:33Speaker 1: are they watching the home? Are they looking for maybe
- 34:36Speaker 1: someone would come back to the home who had taken her.
- 34:39Speaker 1: There's so many possibilities but we do know that they
- 34:41Speaker 1: are checking with all of the neighbors, capturing that surveillance video,
- 34:46Speaker 1: capturing door to door witness accounts of anything that was
- 34:51Speaker 1: heard or said during that time frame. That makes me think, you,
- 34:55Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan, they're looking at somebody else as well.
- 34:58Speaker 1: Why are they looking at video for eight, nine, ten, eleven,
- 35:02Speaker 1: twelve leading up to her disappearance? Guy's tip line seven
- 35:07Speaker 1: one nine three one two seven five three zero repeat
- 35:12Speaker 1: seven one nine three one two seven five three zero.
- 35:16Speaker 1: There is a two hundred thousand dollars reward jump in
- 35:21Speaker 1: Joe Scott. Hey, Look, Nancy, at this point in time,
- 35:24Speaker 1: we have nothing to go on in from our perspective.
- 35:28Speaker 1: Now the police will have more. But you have to
- 35:31Speaker 1: You have to turn over every rock. You have to
- 35:33Speaker 1: consider every possibility. And look, let's don't beat around the bush.
- 35:37Speaker 1: We've talked about people that you know with the husband,
- 35:41Speaker 1: the next door neighbor. We're talking about people that are
- 35:43Speaker 1: in the intimate circle. Those are going to be people
- 35:46Speaker 1: they're gonna have firsthand knowledge. Well, if you're on videography
- 35:50Speaker 1: relative to the life of this woman, if you're filmed
- 35:53Speaker 1: in that area, then that means that you're part of
- 35:57Speaker 1: her life in some way. I want to know who's
- 35:59Speaker 1: coming going I know Chloyd Woods as a homicide investigator.
- 36:03Speaker 1: I want to know who's going to have contact with her,
- 36:06Speaker 1: which is very important going back and forth. You know,
- 36:10Speaker 1: can we establish a tomline before she disappeared, when she
- 36:15Speaker 1: maybe was saying she was going to leave, and then
- 36:17Speaker 1: up to afterwards, and that goes to motives sometimes if
- 36:21Speaker 1: there's something that farious going on here, and I certainly
- 36:24Speaker 1: believe there is, trying to figure out why they want
- 36:27Speaker 1: surveillance footage for a period of days leading up to
- 36:31Speaker 1: Susanne Morphew's disappearance when apparently she's spotted by an eyewitness
- 36:36Speaker 1: going for a bike ride Sunday afternoon Mother's Day while
- 36:40Speaker 1: her husband's out of town in Denver. Let's cut two,
- 36:44Speaker 1: cut six Chaffee County Sheriff's press conference. Take a listen
- 36:48Speaker 1: to this. We've run foot searches using air support, canine support,
- 36:54Speaker 1: swift water support, and we've also utilized countless hours of
- 36:58Speaker 1: drone searches. We've used all over two hundred personnel and
- 37:01Speaker 1: over two thousand man hours have gone into this search,
- 37:04Speaker 1: but unfortunately, we haven't found Suzanne yet, and as I
- 37:07Speaker 1: stated before, that is our top priority. Yesterday afternoon, which
- 37:12Speaker 1: is Thursday, in the area of County Road two twenty
- 37:14Speaker 1: five and Highway fifty, we did find items that we
- 37:19Speaker 1: believe were personal items of Suzanne, more few and that
- 37:24Speaker 1: launched a bigger search we had today, which included the
- 37:27Speaker 1: full closure of US Highway fifty on Monarch Pass. In
- 37:31Speaker 1: that search, we used today well over ninety searchers that
- 37:35Speaker 1: are well trained individuals from both our local agencies as
- 37:39Speaker 1: well as the FBI and CBI. We searched over two
- 37:42Speaker 1: and a half miles using grid patterns. Unfortunately, we found
- 37:46Speaker 1: no other items in that area. FBI, local sheriff's and police,
- 37:51Speaker 1: and the CBI Colorado Bureau of Investigation. That is quite
- 37:57Speaker 1: a search covering, I think, he said, twenty miles via grid.
- 38:02Speaker 1: Now take a listen to nine News Colorado News anchor
- 38:06Speaker 1: Kim Christiansen. Suzanne Morphew went for a bike ride on Sunday.
- 38:11Speaker 1: She never returned. The Chaffey County Sheriff's Office says an
- 38:15Speaker 1: item thought to belong to her was found just west
- 38:18Speaker 1: of County Road two twenty five and Highway fifty. The
- 38:21Speaker 1: Sheriff's office would not say what that item was or
- 38:24Speaker 1: where it was found. More than fifty searchers were in
- 38:27Speaker 1: that area, and they closed Monarch Pass for several hours.
- 38:30Speaker 1: This morning, Our nine News anchor Gary Shapiro talked with
- 38:34Speaker 1: Morphew's uncle, our nephew rather about the search for his aunt.
- 38:39Speaker 1: Are there any theories that you're working on? Yes, there are,
- 38:43Speaker 1: But I think it's best for the investigation and for
- 38:45Speaker 1: the family and for the progress that we that we
- 38:50Speaker 1: keep it close. We're making progress, and we are so
- 38:54Speaker 1: far from giving up, and we are going to find
- 38:56Speaker 1: her today. Oh gosh, that's sin if you speaking saying
- 38:59Speaker 1: we're going to find her today, I've got a question,
- 39:04Speaker 1: what do you make of that? To Cloyd Stey girl,
- 39:07Speaker 1: I want to go to ask you, Willcott, I haven't
- 39:08Speaker 1: talked to her at a moment, Ash. Why would they
- 39:11Speaker 1: not want to reveal a theory. Wouldn't they want the
- 39:14Speaker 1: public's help to further that theory. Sure they would, unless
- 39:18Speaker 1: it's going to interfere with the investigation. So at this
- 39:21Speaker 1: point I have to tell you, knowing that we have State,
- 39:23Speaker 1: we have FBI, we have all these people involved, I
- 39:26Speaker 1: think that they have more information that they don't want
- 39:30Speaker 1: to tell the public. They don't want the public to
- 39:32Speaker 1: know the theory because they don't want the person who
- 39:35Speaker 1: is involved or know something to know that they're onto them.
- 39:39Speaker 1: And they still have to investigate more to really make
- 39:42Speaker 1: certain that theory might be accurate. That's the only thing
- 39:46Speaker 1: I can guess in this case. Tipline seven one nine
- 39:49Speaker 1: three one two seven five three zero. We wait as
- 39:54Speaker 1: the search goes on Nancy Grace crime story, signing off
- 39:58Speaker 1: goodbye friend,