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#501: MIAMI WINS 43-35 vs Florida State in 2OT | OBB Week 7 Recap Show · Orange Bowl Boys: A Miami Hurricanes Podcast

0:01
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it, it's proud, caught, melancholy, touchdown Miami.
0:06
[SPEAKER_01]: They may both be going into New York.
0:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't be off the field for this play, first and go.
0:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Mallory in the backfield.
0:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Mallory, he's dead, touchdown Miami.
0:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Men's the under center.
0:23
[SPEAKER_01]: The action will toss fake, and they go to the end.
0:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Hurricanes in front with 249 to play.
0:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Stand right off the left side.
0:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Touchdown, J.V.
0:38
[SPEAKER_01]: and Mallory.
0:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Lion the answer.
0:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Second and go, looking for men's up.
0:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Tony's got it.
0:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Men's got a Tony again.
0:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Tames back in front.
0:56
[SPEAKER_02]: these are the orange ball boys who sit at by Paul Baines roofing from residential roofing to commercial roofing even roof repairs give Paul a call get your free estimate at Paul Baines roofing.com here's toast Roman and Scoop
1:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Your a Miami hurricane's won a double over time thriller against Florida State 4335.
1:21
[SPEAKER_05]: We call this Genders hates old people show right row.
1:25
[SPEAKER_05]: It's the recapture.
1:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have a voice, but it's the recapture.
1:33
[SPEAKER_04]: I boys don't
1:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess we're doing great.
1:41
[SPEAKER_04]: We're doing great.
1:41
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll have things to talk about, but if it's you, not so much, mind as well, just call this a collection of their tears.
1:47
[SPEAKER_04]: And let me see how the electable this is.
1:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Hold my, hold my.
1:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, they're very, very good.
1:55
[SPEAKER_04]: The Danny can now twist to this right here with all of their, it's just so nice.
2:00
[SPEAKER_03]: The proportions, I'm not pretty sure I've blocked him from our account years ago.
2:05
[SPEAKER_03]: So I have no idea what he's crying about today.
2:08
[SPEAKER_04]: the same thing everybody else is crying about the call at the end of the game.
2:11
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, whatever man.
2:13
[SPEAKER_05]: So I mean, listen, it was the first time last time yesterday happened with 1935 with that many top 10 teams losing the same day.
2:23
[SPEAKER_05]: So it was a historic day as I was telling
2:28
[SPEAKER_05]: when we kicked off that all that carnage is already laying out there at that point 63 to three is out in my mind.
2:35
[SPEAKER_05]: It is I've moved into March Madness mode, which is just surviving advance.
2:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Just surviving advance.
2:39
[SPEAKER_05]: Everyone else has lose and said, just win the goddamn game.
2:42
[SPEAKER_05]: And barely we did.
2:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Barely, apparently we did.
2:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and look, I think that I think when you see five out of the top eight teams go down.
2:52
[SPEAKER_03]: as an FSU player, coach, fan, whatever.
2:59
[SPEAKER_03]: It's changed your entire complexion of what you're capable of doing tonight.
3:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Right?
3:05
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just, they're like, something in the air.
3:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, there's, we've got a chance here.
3:09
[SPEAKER_03]: If they didn't think that before, they certainly thought it then.
3:12
[SPEAKER_03]: And it changed everything.
3:13
[SPEAKER_03]: That, that had that not happened.
3:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that game is is very different.
3:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I do.
3:20
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just man.
3:21
[SPEAKER_03]: It was one of those days.
3:22
[SPEAKER_03]: It was, well, one of those days I've never seen to be quite honest with you.
3:25
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a hell of a day for college football.
3:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Glad, yes, glad we could escape.
3:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Glad we could just write an advance.
3:33
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the, you know, we like to talk smack and think that we're going to blow FSU out because it's
3:43
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, if people don't want to call it the greatest rivalry in college sports or college football, you know, it was for many, many years.
3:54
[SPEAKER_03]: You're always going to get everyone's best and or worse to be caught honest with you because we didn't put out our best last night.
4:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Miami football team did not play their best at this.
4:04
[SPEAKER_03]: You play pretty well.
4:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't mean to hug the microphone.
4:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm confused on just the general lack of interest in kicking fugh goals from anyone, not from the fact that Mike Norvel refuses to kick fugh goals, not the fact that we went for it two times and failed.
4:37
[SPEAKER_03]: it's everywhere and I don't quite understand like why wouldn't you you know we're down to the obviously we know what happened with that issue but we're down to the twenty five it's fourth and two we have we're down seven we have to score two times to win it's there's eleven or twelve minutes left in the game
4:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Why wouldn't you take the points there?
5:02
[SPEAKER_03]: This is my biggest gripe last night.
5:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Why wouldn't you take the points there?
5:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Knowing you're going to get the ball back at some point.
5:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, I just, I don't quite understand that mentality.
5:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you need to tie it, but you also need more points than that to win.
5:20
[SPEAKER_03]: So why don't you take the points on that field goal?
5:23
[SPEAKER_03]: You stop them or you write away you get a fumble, you score instead of being tied to your up.
5:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't understand that entire mentality of just field goals.
5:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Think about this.
5:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Not a single field goal was attempted last night.
5:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Not one, not one field goal from either team was attempted.
5:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Like what type of football are we watching?
5:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you guys are supposed to score more points than the other team and all you wanna do is raw, raw, we've got this no matter it's fourth and nine, who cares?
5:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I just, I don't understand it.
6:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I really don't, I don't get it.
6:05
[SPEAKER_04]: This game was close.
6:07
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a sandwich.
6:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I've unpacked this in my mind many times.
6:10
[SPEAKER_04]: I've put it in my little igloo and I'm carrying it around.
6:12
[SPEAKER_04]: And I know exactly what it is.
6:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Florida State fans, you're not gonna like this, but you got your ass kicked, right?
6:18
[SPEAKER_04]: In order for that game to unfold the way it did, this is what everything had to in this cosmic universe line up just right.
6:25
[SPEAKER_04]: You had to not go for those kicks as Scoop alluded to.
6:28
[SPEAKER_04]: You got bailed out on the first one because of a phantom face mask.
6:31
[SPEAKER_04]: You should have been off the field.
6:33
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you scored on that one.
6:35
[SPEAKER_04]: I've never seen in all my years of football, a field possession battle loss as bad as you had it.
6:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Based on the fact that your coach was so in-depth, he won't kick and take the points.
6:45
[SPEAKER_04]: And then we gave you a 30-point swing or a 30-yard swing on two, like penalty.
6:50
[SPEAKER_04]: So we had to lose to penalty.
6:51
[SPEAKER_04]: We had to lose to possession.
6:53
[SPEAKER_04]: None of that was really something that you were necessarily doing.
6:56
[SPEAKER_04]: You put us into this box.
6:58
[SPEAKER_04]: I've never seen, I've never seen.
7:00
[SPEAKER_04]: So the next, you know, you know, you're a person I'm going to first half really disadvantageous because of because of where they were in terms of the field position battle, right?
7:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Disgustingly bad.
7:09
[SPEAKER_03]: It's awful.
7:10
[SPEAKER_04]: It's bad.
7:10
[SPEAKER_04]: I've never seen it.
7:11
[SPEAKER_04]: And then we come out in the second half, quarterbacks worst quarter.
7:16
[SPEAKER_04]: I've ever seen from him.
7:18
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm getting flagged from the Miami hurricane.
7:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Here's the three plays, and this is what kept you in the game, right?
7:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Here's the three plays.
7:24
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going into score.
7:25
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't stop this in a second half.
7:26
[SPEAKER_04]: You were exactly who we thought you were.
7:28
[SPEAKER_04]: You look at the yard totals in the second half.
7:30
[SPEAKER_04]: You got steamrolled, right?
7:32
[SPEAKER_04]: You got steamrolled.
7:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Darren Mensa goes down there and throws an inexplicable bad pick.
7:37
[SPEAKER_04]: in the end, so on on this season, that's in the end zone.
7:39
[SPEAKER_04]: That's one.
7:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Number two, he's five yards past the line of skirmish and decides to throw a ball.
7:44
[SPEAKER_04]: That takes points off the ball.
7:46
[SPEAKER_04]: And then on one of those fourth downs, he's got a wide open and we're running back for a first down and decides to kill a snake.
7:53
[SPEAKER_04]: we had to rely on our quarterback turning into a freaky Friday moment and stuff like that.
7:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Then we have on us, Shannon Dawson goes away again for two drives.
8:02
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm losing my mind and then he does exactly what I told him to do last time at way force, get into your bag and do it.
8:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Again, we get into our bag and we go down the flight.
8:09
[SPEAKER_04]: And then when you add that, the disadvantage
8:13
[SPEAKER_04]: like first half possession kind of thing and all over the place and we're all like our starting positions at the 10, you know, your starting positions are 17, our quarterback place terrible, right?
8:24
[SPEAKER_04]: You needed all those things for that game to do that.
8:27
[SPEAKER_04]: You got the worst Miami version, you could have possibly had less than if you had a chance to beat us, you had to play really well, which you did, right?
8:35
[SPEAKER_04]: And you still couldn't do it.
8:36
[SPEAKER_04]: You've still couldn't do it.
8:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Cheers.
8:38
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll continue to drink your tears.
8:40
[SPEAKER_05]: Kings, uh, good.
8:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Put your 583 yards of offense.
8:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, 257 on the ground.
8:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Three, 26 through the air.
8:45
[SPEAKER_05]: No one's had 443 overall.
8:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, the penalties, bro.
8:57
[SPEAKER_05]: The penalties.
8:58
[SPEAKER_05]: I knew that was just, it was, it was, I've never, I'll buy it on a scoop.
9:02
[SPEAKER_05]: I, I've, I can't remember the last time I ever seen a team get two personal foul penalties together and get a 30 yard.
9:12
[SPEAKER_05]: But I don't know if I've seen that before.
9:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not really sure how, well, first of all, they called both of them on Keon.
9:19
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it was no.
9:20
[SPEAKER_03]: You haven't got one of them.
9:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Pro was the other one.
9:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
9:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Pro was the first one I think.
9:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
9:25
[SPEAKER_03]: But I was in, and I don't look.
9:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't see any of it.
9:28
[SPEAKER_03]: But how was he the only one flagged in that melee?
9:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, you don't have off setting on sports with like in something like that.
9:36
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not really sure.
9:37
[SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, I got put on a 17 again.
9:39
[SPEAKER_04]: That was one of the things.
9:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but yeah, I know scored points.
9:41
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I would like to know.
9:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I really don't.
9:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know the answer to this, but he's still running that young man.
9:45
[SPEAKER_04]: He's still running on the green tree right now.
9:47
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, he got that text from coach.
9:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, hey, meet me on the line of 430.
9:51
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, that was not pretty.
9:52
[SPEAKER_04]: It was.
9:54
[SPEAKER_03]: And I kept harping about it because I had control of Twitter last night and I kept harping about the the field position man like the visually it was nauseating I would imagine if I saw the actual like road just said we started an hour and 10 they started our own it had to be if you average them out it had to be they started on our side of the 50 it has to be
10:23
[SPEAKER_03]: If it's not, it's nowhere, it's nowhere, it's no further back than their 45 for an entire half of football.
10:31
[SPEAKER_03]: I need to know this, somebody figured this out for me.
10:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Right, so here we go.
10:36
[SPEAKER_05]: So here's where, uh, where they started, um, let's see.
10:42
[SPEAKER_05]: They started on.
10:43
[SPEAKER_05]: I need to add this up.
10:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, no, it says not nearly is.
10:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, it's agree.
10:50
[SPEAKER_05]: It's gross.
10:51
[SPEAKER_05]: You're in the wrong.
10:52
[SPEAKER_05]: The ones going to, the ones they have had one, you had one where they started on the UM 15.
10:58
[SPEAKER_05]: But then you had they started on the, they started on the FSU 47, FSU 46, FSU 42.
11:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh-huh.
11:06
[SPEAKER_05]: So yes, you had three that were in the, in the 40s.
11:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Yep.
11:09
[SPEAKER_05]: And then my hand was in Miami.
11:11
[SPEAKER_05]: Miami started a field position 14 yard line to yard line 25 25 yard line 25 28 8 yard line 25 28 39 25 25 25
11:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
11:23
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
11:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
11:24
[SPEAKER_03]: So what is it?
11:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, man.
11:26
[SPEAKER_05]: Two.
11:26
[SPEAKER_05]: We don't say they had one of the UN-15 and then now, right over time, two at the UN-25.
11:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
11:31
[SPEAKER_05]: So, UN-15.
11:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Would you say 47, 47, 46 and 42?
11:39
[SPEAKER_05]: That was the stretch for eight, right?
11:42
[SPEAKER_05]: In the 47, that's 15 yards.
11:44
[SPEAKER_03]: That means, that's 15 yards, 30 or 15.
11:50
[SPEAKER_03]: So their average starting position on those first four drives was our 30.
11:56
[SPEAKER_03]: It's as bad as it just bad as it looked.
11:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
11:59
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I was trying to say.
12:01
[SPEAKER_03]: That was my igloo sandwich.
12:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I know like this is why the eye goes.
12:04
[SPEAKER_03]: It's unbelievable how bad that was.
12:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I was texting with Roddy at halftime and we're the, I was just, like, I was just bitching about the fact that we can't run the ball and we're, they're literally on our side of the 50th of the entire half.
12:17
[SPEAKER_04]: We started to run the ball very efficiently in the second half.
12:20
[SPEAKER_04]: We did exactly what we had been doing all year.
12:23
[SPEAKER_04]: And then again, through Robinson hits us and 60 takes a lightning.
12:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Ungolfed a lot, angle, or ungodly angle.
12:32
[SPEAKER_04]: And then it just, of course, of course.
12:35
[SPEAKER_04]: But you just smile at that one.
12:37
[SPEAKER_04]: To me, when when he pulled one play, I wasn't mad at that one, I was like, I said, of course,
12:48
[SPEAKER_03]: that that's all that one is that's just of course our course our safety takes a bad angle and trips up our corner of course of course that happens and that's I don't understand look that was tip your captain when that's no you can't do that that's fine that's fine but you can't have heatherman Dr. Doom love you to death you can't rotate the one do down
13:17
[SPEAKER_03]: and leave the one dude up top.
13:21
[SPEAKER_03]: You like, who thought that's a good idea?
13:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Who's not going to work?
13:24
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a good idea with that personnel.
13:28
[SPEAKER_04]: He was late getting over too.
13:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Because if you're going to read that, we've said it on student in the game for years.
13:33
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's exactly where I'm headed to.
13:34
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to run down to the lap.
13:36
[SPEAKER_04]: What's the same place, but you don't know that.
13:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to run down to the lab as soon as this is done.
13:40
[SPEAKER_04]: And I will tell you, when I see,
13:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Florida State victimized him on those rotations.
13:47
[SPEAKER_04]: They did a really good job because most teams will go into the flats.
13:50
[SPEAKER_04]: F. as you went into the screen game, which is also into the flat.
13:52
[SPEAKER_04]: So they just took it to another level.
13:54
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's going to be concerning moving forward.
13:56
[SPEAKER_04]: But you're right.
13:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, you have to know.
13:58
[SPEAKER_04]: And I've said this for years and years and students to get know your worst nightmare.
14:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Every play you got to know where you're not.
14:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, this is the play I drawn up.
14:04
[SPEAKER_04]: But this is the coverage that beats it.
14:05
[SPEAKER_04]: And what do I do if they do it?
14:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Listen, we're going to rotate this down.
14:08
[SPEAKER_04]: If he's out here, one on one, you can't be laid on the rotation.
14:12
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't be sucked up this flat.
14:13
[SPEAKER_04]: This is a size matchup that you're right, Scoop.
14:16
[SPEAKER_04]: That was one of the ones where he lost sight of his rotation and his scheme was first, players was second, and you got victimized and you got burned.
14:23
[SPEAKER_04]: And you're lucky, too, because at the end of the game, I'm going to see the controversy call was involving him, too, so you had to go ahead and account for your worst nightmare, put some size on this guy.
14:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Or just, just, just, just, just, Markham.
14:34
[SPEAKER_03]: So I tried gather with three guys around them and brace thankfully came down with that Yeah, I was I was mad at the I was mad at who I and I saw him I saw done again.
14:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll name him.
14:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I won't name the other guy.
14:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw done again
14:52
[SPEAKER_03]: just fly down into the box and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like I literally yelling at the screen before the play even happened.
14:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, why are we leaving him up?
15:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Tip by himself.
15:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
15:04
[SPEAKER_03]: So I will harp on it.
15:07
[SPEAKER_03]: They change that up.
15:09
[SPEAKER_03]: later.
15:10
[SPEAKER_03]: They did they didn't allow for that to happen again.
15:13
[SPEAKER_03]: As we got into overtime and and he caught that again on a board that you just caught that that damn thing and then and that wasn't him.
15:23
[SPEAKER_03]: That was two guys who you would expect that not to happen to.
15:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
15:29
[SPEAKER_03]: but still still wicked we got it I don't know and and it goes back to it goes back to the fact that we are just decimated with injuries in the secondary on the margin play no the more he did not play again he was supposed to be out there full go did not play Bryce who said it was a stinger twice right I'm not sure I believe him
15:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I mean, that's, I don't know, it looks like an awful lot of it.
16:00
[SPEAKER_03]: It looked like a, well, losing poiser to the target of the health did not help.
16:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, look, you lost your, you're starting to safeties in the first quarter.
16:09
[SPEAKER_03]: You lost in Bryce in the first play and you lost poiser early.
16:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and then all of a sudden, you're like, okay, right?
16:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I look, the defensive line.
16:21
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm all over the place.
16:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even know what I'm jumping from.
16:25
[SPEAKER_03]: You want to talk about anything specific because now I'm going to go to the top line and talk about.
16:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'll show you this.
16:29
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll show you this.
16:30
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll just before we keep going down the individual things.
16:34
[SPEAKER_05]: Overall, bring me in, dude.
16:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Overall, I'm just going to say, overall, and I'm sending this last night on the stream a few times in the second half.
16:42
[SPEAKER_05]: I love this rivalry, but this rivalry is just it's everything.
16:47
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, as a cane fan for as long as I've been this rivalry is as good as it gets.
16:53
[SPEAKER_05]: And last night was honestly, one of the top five, in my opinion, like the game was these teams to put on just with the weather and with what was at stake in the emotion, where they are, where we are, like it was just, roast everything college football's about.
17:08
[SPEAKER_05]: And then we survived, we advanced, we got by it.
17:10
[SPEAKER_05]: And it was possibly our worst game of the year.
17:13
[SPEAKER_05]: And Darian Mensa, I've got some concerns because yeah, he's not looking as good as he did the beginning of this season and scoop you made reference at one point how last year all of a sudden this season took a right hand turn that we didn't want it to take.
17:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, it almost took a right hand turn again last night, but we we got through it.
17:29
[SPEAKER_05]: But there's still some stuff coming up and I don't know.
17:32
[SPEAKER_05]: I need this, this offensive lines, not coming together as quickly as I wanted to.
17:37
[SPEAKER_05]: I was hoping for some nice drives that kind of imposed themselves against the FSU.
17:41
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't really see that last night in the second half, a little bit, but not like I did against Clemson, when they responded.
17:46
[SPEAKER_05]: So I don't know, man.
17:48
[SPEAKER_05]: It was a great game, loved all of it, but I definitely got some question marks about this.
17:52
[SPEAKER_05]: He's gonna be number one.
17:53
[SPEAKER_05]: Pretty sure we're gonna be number one.
17:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe Ohio, I don't know.
17:55
[SPEAKER_05]: They lost Julian saying, but
17:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm a look.
17:58
[SPEAKER_03]: You got holes and I hear you, you're concerned on the offensive line for sure.
18:04
[SPEAKER_03]: What I will say is this in regards to that, um, I think you would have seen that drive.
18:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you would have seen that drive and it would have been.
18:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, when we were still tied, maybe I think that was before it was the drive of the pick in the end.
18:22
[SPEAKER_03]: So you would have seen the drive because they were running it down their throat, man.
18:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they were butt.
18:29
[SPEAKER_03]: And then all of a sudden, we stop.
18:32
[SPEAKER_03]: All of a sudden, we don't want to do it anymore.
18:34
[SPEAKER_03]: All of a sudden, we want to get, it just sometimes, sometimes, and call me an idiot, because he likes to call city.
18:43
[SPEAKER_03]: It's sometimes.
18:44
[SPEAKER_05]: That's right.
18:45
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
18:46
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
18:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes, I don't understand that because you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, it was that drive that you never even bothered.
18:58
[SPEAKER_03]: to think about putting it on the air, right?
19:01
[SPEAKER_03]: It was that drive that you were just gonna continue to bully them right down the field.
19:06
[SPEAKER_03]: And inexplicably, you said, nah, nah, nah, talk to that.
19:10
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't do that anymore.
19:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Why we wanna, why, why?
19:14
[SPEAKER_03]: No, my biggest concern about the offensive line is they create no running lanes.
19:21
[SPEAKER_03]: They really do.
19:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Mark Fletcher,
19:24
[SPEAKER_04]: runs into so how many yards to hold that hold on how many yards did it run for again because we had a unique six six six six six six and I will yeah and I will say now from your telecast we were watching the skycast we were watching we were watching the sky okay we had no one answers no Roddy was just the PA and answers pretty cool and we were literally watching the line the whole time I will tell you this yes it's tight
19:53
[SPEAKER_04]: There was a, there was a, when it got clutch, there wasn't an offensive line problem running backs, we're missing the whole running backs, we're missing.
20:00
[SPEAKER_04]: We could see it clear as day.
20:01
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, man, it was right there.
20:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Why did you cut that back in the holes over there?
20:05
[SPEAKER_04]: They have, they have it down to a science.
20:07
[SPEAKER_04]: And again, when you're rushing over your rival for over 250 something,
20:12
[SPEAKER_04]: I think they did good scoop.
20:13
[SPEAKER_04]: I think cognitive came in as he's taking that offensive line, but I wasn't.
20:17
[SPEAKER_04]: They got some pressures that got in a little bit that I was like, I'm not used to seeing one guy come and clean that way, but we'll see, we'll clean that up.
20:26
[SPEAKER_03]: So what I was going to say was the lanes as you have seen from this line in the past, if you want to come holes, you want to come lanes, you want to come whatever you want.
20:38
[SPEAKER_03]: They're not really there.
20:40
[SPEAKER_03]: And I did tweet out, eight gap for life is dead because our ability to create those lanes in that space and say what you want.
20:51
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't exist.
20:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Those 250 yards were because for the most part,
21:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Mallory was able to bounce it outside.
21:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
21:04
[SPEAKER_03]: More B and C gets it for life, right?
21:08
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what you're looking at.
21:11
[SPEAKER_03]: And Fletcher is a different type of back.
21:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Fletcher is an A-gap for life.
21:23
[SPEAKER_03]: just just run you down, but he needs those lanes.
21:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Fletcher runs into the back of somebody nine and a half times out of ten with this offensive line.
21:35
[SPEAKER_04]: He's not running.
21:36
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not running through holes.
21:38
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not running through lanes.
21:41
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not.
21:41
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not.
21:42
[SPEAKER_03]: He's at go back and look at he's not.
21:44
[SPEAKER_03]: He did on the touchdown.
21:46
[SPEAKER_03]: That was a nice play.
21:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
21:48
[SPEAKER_03]: That was a very, very well-blocked play.
21:50
[SPEAKER_03]: But where did that touchdown come?
21:52
[SPEAKER_03]: off tackle.
21:55
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't a gap.
21:56
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't anywhere within the interior line.
21:59
[SPEAKER_03]: So that worries me.
22:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it great that Mallory looked Mallory is a dude better than anyone thought he was the average 8.3 13 carries 100 Ng yards for the team.
22:11
[SPEAKER_05]: They got they got 260 the average 5.8 a carry incredible.
22:17
[SPEAKER_03]: And we had to go to double OT.
22:18
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's just going to share that that concerns the inability for them to actually say and look, they went for twice and they went in the A gap and Mark got stuffed.
22:29
[SPEAKER_04]: And I didn't like one of those plays.
22:30
[SPEAKER_04]: They just give me what their heavy formation.
22:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Now they would come back to their heavy formation and and would score touchdown on a pass, which was a beautiful play.
22:37
[SPEAKER_04]: And we needed that.
22:38
[SPEAKER_04]: But they came in heavy and just tried to wedge block and they just wedge block this back.
22:43
[SPEAKER_04]: It was terrible.
22:44
[SPEAKER_04]: It was a terrible like all that one forked down.
22:46
[SPEAKER_04]: But listen, Darian, now Darian meant to run a game where upset, it just doesn't look right to piggyback off this even though we're going to the quarterback.
22:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Imagine going 2434.
23:00
[SPEAKER_04]: 326 yards, 3TDs and one pick.
23:03
[SPEAKER_04]: It was the worst game of your year.
23:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, first game of the year for Darren Mesa.
23:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Again, 24, 34.
23:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Imagine having, we're criticizing the running game, we're averaging five yards of rush.
23:14
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's just where we are with the University of Miami Hurricanes, because we know they could play, but they can play better.
23:18
[SPEAKER_04]: They could have won 63 to three, right?
23:22
[SPEAKER_04]: They could very easily have been in the team that beat Florida State.
23:24
[SPEAKER_04]: So think, yeah, think about it.
23:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Last night, those things up.
23:28
[SPEAKER_03]: at up the fact that meant so on for three twenty six three tuddy touch this one under pic twenty four thirty four ran for two hundred fifty something yards on those boys almost six hundred yards of total all six hundred to total offence who wants to double over time because of what that that igloo is that gross and that's gross because like we're happy about it but man that's disgusting
23:51
[SPEAKER_04]: it was you know when you you try to launch a rocket ship right you do this series of tests booster one at series two relay three it's like every time we were trying to get to a booster to get to the another we failed it right patty boop do all right now no booster to hit it check now i got two three and out drives and i totally went back into my shells and off it's a girl do hey we're going to go for it on fourth it's you let's do a wedge plug do
24:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, we're gonna get off these robes.
24:19
[SPEAKER_04]: We couldn't take them off.
24:20
[SPEAKER_04]: No, hey, we're in the second half.
24:22
[SPEAKER_04]: We're running all over them All we got to do is start.
24:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, he throws a pick right there.
24:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, it's a four thud.
24:26
[SPEAKER_04]: He's wide open.
24:27
[SPEAKER_04]: We just could never hit those booster checks, right?
24:30
[SPEAKER_04]: We could have been into the actual stratosphere doing exactly what we thought, but we wouldn't let it happen.
24:36
[SPEAKER_04]: There was so much self-inflicted garbage on that night.
24:39
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, you want to credit, I credit FSU for the rivalry.
24:44
[SPEAKER_04]: I credit FSU for their competitive spirit.
24:47
[SPEAKER_04]: You're still a really bad football team.
24:49
[SPEAKER_04]: You're not even, it says, oh, well, that's what happens when you finally play a good team.
24:52
[SPEAKER_04]: No way forced is to better the two teams to stand in close.
24:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, I don't know what that final was, but good God.
24:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
24:58
[SPEAKER_04]: way force was a much better team.
25:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Clemson was a much more physical team.
25:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Clemson was a better defensive team by far.
25:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't don't don't even start.
25:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Like Clemson is a much better defensive team than Florida State.
25:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Way force.
25:10
[SPEAKER_04]: You're not the better team.
25:11
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to credit you for the rivalry and your competitiveness.
25:14
[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm not going to credit you because, wow, you did something and you were just a great team.
25:18
[SPEAKER_04]: No, you're not.
25:19
[SPEAKER_04]: You're not.
25:19
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just the way rivalry games go and we just talked about all the series of events that put us in a spot where we were just had like rocker rocket booster dysfunction, right rocket tile this one 40 that's what we wanted to seven 40.
25:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're low pez function.
25:40
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what we had.
25:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Geal low pez, 267 yards, four touchdowns.
25:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
25:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're criminal in the right of the thing.
25:46
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and the ACC, and it's, and it's, and it's clear.
25:49
[SPEAKER_04]: It's clear as day.
25:50
[SPEAKER_04]: We've been saying it in Florida State.
25:52
[SPEAKER_04]: You're nowhere close to the top of the ACC teams.
25:54
[SPEAKER_04]: And you're probably going to lose.
25:55
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know who you're playing.
25:57
[SPEAKER_04]: If it's an ACC game, you're probably going to lose that too.
26:00
[SPEAKER_04]: So.
26:00
[SPEAKER_04]: That's just lost in the game.
26:03
[SPEAKER_03]: We didn't get Mike fire.
26:04
[SPEAKER_03]: And I love it.
26:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
26:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I do love that aspect about this whole thing.
26:08
[SPEAKER_03]: They were gritty.
26:10
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a good loss by Mike still, by the way, haven't won a road game in three years.
26:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Just for anyone who's counting.
26:23
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and by the way, any time Notre Dame plays anyone with a pulse, they lose two.
26:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's the thing.
26:30
[SPEAKER_03]: So Notre Dame's one, that was not out right now.
26:33
[SPEAKER_05]: And they're on three CJ cars on three against in the three biggest games.
26:37
[SPEAKER_05]: He's played in the last year and a half.
26:39
[SPEAKER_05]: So I don't want to hear anything for Notre Dame fans like you want to make fun of us in our schedule.
26:44
[SPEAKER_05]: You lose every ranked matchup you have.
26:47
[SPEAKER_05]: So I don't want to hear anything until you win one of those games.
26:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Malachi 11 catches 154.
26:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.
26:52
[SPEAKER_05]: I tell you what, man, 31 yards of the round.
26:55
[SPEAKER_05]: And how about the conversion pass on the two point conversion?
26:59
[SPEAKER_05]: What a beautiful play call that was finally for Dawson when we needed one with Malachi throwing for the two point.
27:05
[SPEAKER_05]: That was just beautifully actually.
27:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so happy that we only had one double load and we didn't because that was the only one he had.
27:11
[SPEAKER_03]: That was it.
27:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought to myself, I did think to myself, I thought to myself, shit, what's
27:19
[SPEAKER_05]: was my first thought, I was awesome, but now we're out of them.
27:23
[SPEAKER_05]: That was it.
27:24
[SPEAKER_05]: That was the one bad play I had.
27:26
[SPEAKER_04]: The next one was just going to be, you know, toss left.
27:30
[SPEAKER_05]: I also want to give it a little tip of the cap.
27:33
[SPEAKER_05]: Love what I'm seeing just the growth and development from Dale and upshall.
27:37
[SPEAKER_05]: And he's really stepping in and answering the bell whenever it's called Mallory again.
27:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Lyle got some good burn nine carries for you.
27:46
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, him and his health are the are the interior guys.
27:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Lyle looked healthy.
27:51
[SPEAKER_03]: He did.
27:52
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't play a ton, but he looked like he had that burst back in him last.
27:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Little bit.
27:57
[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to need those running back room in scoop.
28:00
[SPEAKER_03]: We only saw one carry out a pringle just to know didn't see no I know we didn't see him so obviously you know we don't know what goes on behind the scenes here's what goes on behind the scenes and it's now now in front of the scenes right behind the curtain front of the curtain.
28:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Javio Mallory's that guy.
28:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Javio Mallory's a lot faster than I thought it was first of all.
28:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, you got to answer and man, I'll say it again.
28:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I will say it every recap show every single one of them.
28:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope next year he will Josh Moore is going to be back.
28:34
[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe not, but I hope that next year they give him number three.
28:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to see the transition from 21 to 3 and I want to imagine.
28:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to go back and I want to have reminisce and I want to live the Frank Gore life.
28:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Because that's dude is the most Frank Gore ish I have ever seen on a football field.
29:00
[SPEAKER_04]: I said this in the recapture and talking about Gerard Pringo and I feel like Gerard Pringo,
29:10
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's going to go to Louisville next year.
29:11
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was going to be so proud of you guys.
29:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I was proud of you.
29:14
[SPEAKER_04]: Like that's literally what he's going to do.
29:17
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's just one of those things in the future.
29:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Mario just needs to stop with it because the smaller backs, fast guys that literally
29:27
[SPEAKER_04]: You have so much world of potential that that was just like Mario doesn't favor those guys.
29:32
[SPEAKER_04]: He just doesn't.
29:32
[SPEAKER_04]: He just doesn't.
29:33
[SPEAKER_04]: He just doesn't use him.
29:36
[SPEAKER_04]: It's almost the next Saben thing where it's like I know he's going to be Isaac Brown at Louisville.
29:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
29:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want him to be Isaac Brown is leaving and he'll find a person go to look market down bookmark this.
29:48
[SPEAKER_03]: George Pringo's going to go to Louisville next year and he's going to be amazing over.
29:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
29:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
29:56
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a future.
29:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Go to beat in the boat is interesting because he was so successful and so productive towards the end of the last season.
30:04
[SPEAKER_03]: We're like, man, he's taking this job.
30:07
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think he would have been that guy again.
30:10
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, Javi on just went in and he took this launch box and he said.
30:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, and why, because Javi on, because again, he's going to factor more in past pro.
30:23
[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to be a bigger back.
30:24
[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to want to run you over and that speaks Mario's language.
30:29
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just speaks.
30:29
[SPEAKER_04]: I cannot get, you can have another Chris Johnson Jr. Another Gerard Pringle.
30:35
[SPEAKER_04]: That's my, I mean, like, did we reproduce that like the Octo mom?
30:41
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's just, if they just keep falling out of trees or reference.
30:44
[SPEAKER_04]: And I cannot get excited about any future one, there no matter how great they look because just Mario, it's just not a Mario guy and it's sad.
30:55
[SPEAKER_04]: But
30:56
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just, but it works because he's like, what did you see how many yards and we rush against Florida State when it was raining?
31:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, it's not gonna change.
31:04
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it is.
31:06
[SPEAKER_04]: think we're beyond that point.
31:07
[SPEAKER_04]: And Gerard Pringle had a lot of burn last year too because we had some injuries.
31:10
[SPEAKER_04]: That's when Fletcher immediately got hurt and what happened.
31:12
[SPEAKER_04]: One Fletcher came back and he was healthy in the playoffs.
31:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Who was featured?
31:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
31:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
31:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course.
31:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I understand that.
31:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't think that look.
31:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that this and I said it earlier.
31:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't mean to say it again.
31:24
[SPEAKER_03]: But Fletcher and this offensive line.
31:28
[SPEAKER_03]: are not flexure in last year's offensive line.
31:31
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just different.
31:32
[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
31:33
[SPEAKER_03]: It's different.
31:33
[SPEAKER_04]: It's partner.
31:34
[SPEAKER_03]: It totally is.
31:35
[SPEAKER_03]: They're stepping on each other's toes.
31:38
[SPEAKER_03]: And now flexures hurt, right?
31:41
[SPEAKER_03]: He obviously has something either.
31:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Something with a number of interest.
31:45
[SPEAKER_03]: To the fact that it was bad enough that he, I mean, it's surprising, it concerns me because for him to be in that much pain with that part of your body is concerning.
31:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Especially as a lie back.
32:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, he can't carry it in that hand.
32:02
[SPEAKER_03]: You saw him switch late on that one outside run.
32:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, where were you going?
32:06
[SPEAKER_03]: It was outside.
32:07
[SPEAKER_03]: It was outside.
32:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's outside.
32:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
32:09
[SPEAKER_03]: So look at we cried last year.
32:13
[SPEAKER_03]: for them to please get to the outside.
32:15
[SPEAKER_03]: And now they're doing it, and they're doing it.
32:19
[SPEAKER_03]: But flex isn't that guy.
32:21
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't mean to, I love him to death.
32:24
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a heart and soul this team.
32:26
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's a different, you said.
32:27
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a different dance part.
32:28
[SPEAKER_03]: It just looks different.
32:29
[SPEAKER_03]: And Mallory, all of a sudden, Mallory is could be.
32:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Could be the number one run about on this team, which is wild as a true fresh one.
32:43
[SPEAKER_05]: the future thing and we're talking about this last night scoop at uh it almost seems like and I think that might be why Lyle got so many carries last night sure it's a caught you know but it seems like maybe they're saying to flush like he's got an injury but it's one of those where it can't get worse but it's not going to get any better one of those you're going to kind of have this for the rest of the season until the off season when something's dealt with
33:06
[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, but he's absolutely, then he'll come in a few plays later and he's fine.
33:10
[SPEAKER_05]: He looks like he's fine.
33:10
[SPEAKER_05]: He's not grabbing it, but then after a carrier to, he's grabbing it again.
33:14
[SPEAKER_05]: And so it's, I just, I don't know if, like, yeah, I mean, you had the buy week.
33:19
[SPEAKER_05]: It still didn't get better.
33:20
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm just kind of thinking that he, this may be something that he's dealing with for the rest of the season for.
33:24
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, it's a great.
33:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think this is, I don't think this is the same thing that bothered him.
33:29
[SPEAKER_03]: This is not the same thing why he set out the Central Michigan game.
33:33
[SPEAKER_03]: That hand thing happened last night.
33:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
33:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
33:36
[SPEAKER_03]: You think it's just happened last night?
33:37
[SPEAKER_03]: The hand thing happened last night.
33:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
33:41
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll see.
33:41
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
33:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, listen, it was open out.
33:45
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's look at the ranking.
33:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I would not do what I was close to being done, are we?
33:48
[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, no.
33:48
[SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, I get a lot to talk about.
33:51
[SPEAKER_05]: There was some, are you want to talk more about the game?
33:53
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm talking about what else went on in the college football.
33:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, okay.
33:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Who we touched on.
33:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, so I was just going to say that.
34:00
[SPEAKER_05]: So just looking at what went down yesterday.
34:02
[SPEAKER_05]: So I mean, Georgia loses to Auburn at home.
34:06
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, Notre Dame loses to be why you on the road.
34:11
[SPEAKER_05]: We picked up the data.
34:12
[SPEAKER_05]: The gators off Texas amazing.
34:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, Oh, God, I hope they win this game.
34:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, because, you know, I think I picked that one.
34:21
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I picked that.
34:22
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I think I did, I was like, Florida's going to keep it close.
34:26
[SPEAKER_04]: I said they were going to lose, but I said, but Florida's going to keep.
34:29
[SPEAKER_04]: I said, Florida's going to lose, but I think they keep it close.
34:31
[SPEAKER_04]: And you guys, I pretty sure you laughed me out of the building.
34:34
[SPEAKER_04]: I got dog walked.
34:35
[SPEAKER_00]: You did.
34:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You picked you up.
34:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
34:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Missouri was my player the week.
34:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you tell me how you tell us how they can't stop the run there.
34:45
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll also pick them up here.
34:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
34:48
[SPEAKER_00]: You picked a lot of big Tennessee.
34:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Nice.
34:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I picked, I picked you.
34:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Why you so well, so let me ask you guys what the here's a big with Ohio state.
34:55
[SPEAKER_05]: So Julian St. goes out.
34:57
[SPEAKER_05]: So he's got a lot of weeks from a sling a shoulder issue of Ryan day after the game said that he's going to miss quote unquote several weeks.
35:05
[SPEAKER_05]: So is that back for the big ten title game is that back before the end of the season item for Michigan.
35:10
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, but that would be the only team that could that would be number one over Miami.
35:15
[SPEAKER_05]: I think he's, but I think he's a penalized that right, but losing their quarterback.
35:19
[SPEAKER_04]: They can't be number one.
35:21
[SPEAKER_04]: But see, for me, toast, the reason why I couldn't put Ohio State, not because they just because of the penalty thing, because of the Jordan Travis like tax.
35:28
[SPEAKER_04]: I fell to Texas losing again.
35:32
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's where you lost to.
35:33
[SPEAKER_04]: They lost to Florida, right?
35:35
[SPEAKER_04]: And Florida was in net the last two weeks.
35:37
[SPEAKER_04]: So they, this is a two lost Texas team.
35:40
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's exactly who Ohio State lost it.
35:42
[SPEAKER_04]: So even if they were undefeated, Florida beat them last years in a row.
35:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
35:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
35:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I went on the record yesterday, man.
35:48
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I mean, I called.
35:50
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that when the, when the rain can just come out today, I think you're going to see Texas drop to like 12, and Florida pop in it like 19.
35:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, probably.
36:00
[SPEAKER_05]: I think the two lost Texas is still going to be a top 15 team.
36:04
[SPEAKER_04]: They, they're still going to be so much.
36:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: S.E.C.
36:06
[SPEAKER_04]: S.E.
36:06
[SPEAKER_04]: We've got rolled.
36:08
[SPEAKER_04]: They're more point and they don't really show.
36:11
[SPEAKER_04]: And we're about Ole Miss, Ole Miss rolls.
36:14
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, honestly, this is such an understanding Ole Miss.
36:17
[SPEAKER_04]: The meme that comes to mind and we talked about this yesterday.
36:19
[SPEAKER_04]: And it recaps the stream show, the stream show.
36:25
[SPEAKER_04]: That sounds like an IP daily skit.
36:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to my history.
36:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's go.
36:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, but we're like, it was like that meme scoop or it's like the grim Reapers knocking on the door.
36:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
36:35
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just blood tripped.
36:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
36:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
36:38
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's just like, here's Ole Miss.
36:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Ole Miss gets blasted when Florida was the 2019 version of the LSU Tigers to go.
36:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess right that's what everybody's taking them and then they go if they fall off the the earth when they lost that bad in this Swamp and because the grim Reaper it's like you get to go and re-skin your door clean it up with some disinfectant And somehow all misses going to be like the 16th in the country after ours in the Florida right?
37:03
[SPEAKER_04]: It's because it's like it's not just about the grim Reaper knocking on your door in college football Cuz it's inevitable.
37:09
[SPEAKER_04]: It's when it happens
37:11
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, you just gotta hope that you, you get taken out like, if Miami lost last night, it was alright.
37:18
[SPEAKER_04]: It was okay.
37:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Like the tone of this is going to be like, hey, did you just see the rest of college football?
37:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you see everything that I have everybody lost?
37:24
[SPEAKER_04]: So at the grand scheme of things, everybody's just going to slide back a couple.
37:28
[SPEAKER_04]: That's it.
37:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Because it's not like Miami got blasted, right?
37:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Miami barely lost and double overtime.
37:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you see that call?
37:34
[SPEAKER_04]: And but that's what it would have been.
37:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Miami was in that game and if you go back and you watch it,
37:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, it's just the season.
37:44
[SPEAKER_04]: And this is what college football has become, right?
37:46
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, Miami, but the more Miami keeps winning, the more you could absorb a loss.
37:51
[SPEAKER_04]: We didn't pick the University of Miami to be undefeated by no means, right?
37:55
[SPEAKER_04]: We didn't.
37:56
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like an 111 season.
37:58
[SPEAKER_04]: You're more than halfway there now, right?
38:00
[SPEAKER_04]: 6 to 0.
38:01
[SPEAKER_04]: So you still can, you still could trip up one and you're still gonna be in the playoffs, right?
38:06
[SPEAKER_04]: So let's go, let's go.
38:09
[SPEAKER_04]: But it is fun, though, because when we go up to in a few weeks and we go play those gold domers, that's an elimination game for those guys, and it would be nice to kick them out of the playoffs two years in a row.
38:20
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, listen, it's the last time we were number one was 2002 2002 2002, so we're talking 24 years ago, man.
38:29
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think the people who want to punch a hog who is, but it, but it does.
38:35
[SPEAKER_03]: It does point to the fact that we are where we are, right, under Mario.
38:41
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's team, and thank you to Mario, not only for that, but thank you for being the consummate recruiter and changing with the times of the NIL and then recruiting lights out these college, these high school kids, because with the injuries that this team
39:05
[SPEAKER_03]: the ability for them to keep winning with guys that are recruited guys, not portal guys, right?
39:10
[SPEAKER_03]: These are guys that he's recruited and developed.
39:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you look at the freshman, you look, you look at the fact Tony goes out and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I
39:27
[SPEAKER_03]: really surprised by this, but I guess this is where we are.
39:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Tony goes out on something that, I don't know, I thought, ended his season.
39:34
[SPEAKER_05]: See him with me, I were like, non-contact, I was terrified.
39:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was like, OK, now that now we got, now we got problems.
39:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right?
39:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Who's the guy that comes in to replace him?
39:45
[SPEAKER_03]: That for, that for, that for, true freshman.
39:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Who's the guy who they're catching so much down?
39:51
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
39:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Stafford.
39:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Stafford.
39:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
39:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Like nothing happened.
39:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing happened.
39:55
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not like, okay.
39:56
[SPEAKER_03]: You're right.
39:56
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not, it's not.
39:57
[SPEAKER_05]: I called it.
39:58
[SPEAKER_05]: I called it.
39:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Don't, don't.
40:01
[SPEAKER_05]: We are slot you.
40:02
[SPEAKER_05]: We're slot you.
40:03
[SPEAKER_05]: We're slot you.
40:04
[SPEAKER_05]: We're slot you.
40:05
[SPEAKER_04]: To which to which my orange ball behavior immediately said if she was slot you.
40:09
[SPEAKER_04]: So that one should be.
40:12
[SPEAKER_03]: And that is not untrue.
40:14
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not untrue.
40:15
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not untrue.
40:19
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, so so that's a freshman replacing Malachi.
40:23
[SPEAKER_03]: You've got Javion who steps up as a true freshman who shows that he is debatably the best back on this team
40:34
[SPEAKER_03]: with this dance partner with this long, okay?
40:37
[SPEAKER_03]: So let me clarify what I'm trying to say there.
40:39
[SPEAKER_04]: He's a good, he likes salsa a little bit.
40:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, he's got a little bit of a bit of a little bit more lateral hip movement there with the salsa.
40:48
[SPEAKER_04]: That salsa you're a little bit more this way.
40:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I guess the meringue you guys like Pringle, I don't want that meringue you just have over there.
40:55
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, a day-long like you said, Dalen played a lot last year as a true freshman until he got hurt.
41:00
[SPEAKER_03]: So like if you're, if you're the dude,
41:03
[SPEAKER_03]: and you come in like you've got an opportunity to play on the number one team in the country.
41:10
[SPEAKER_03]: So thank you for that.
41:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for building this the way that it needs to be building.
41:15
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just curious to see where some of these votes go.
41:19
[SPEAKER_04]: You're going to see some stupid AP votes.
41:22
[SPEAKER_04]: I swear you're still like Texas.
41:24
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's going to be Miami OSU
41:29
[SPEAKER_05]: I think so.
41:30
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that's your top.
41:31
[SPEAKER_05]: And who's there?
41:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Number four.
41:32
[SPEAKER_05]: And they're going to slide.
41:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I still have Georgia.
41:35
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a couple undefeated teams, though.
41:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Utah's undefeated.
41:40
[SPEAKER_03]: You told him to tie you Texas tack undefeated still.
41:44
[SPEAKER_03]: This is tech at 10.
41:44
[SPEAKER_05]: They, the host ASU yesterday.
41:47
[SPEAKER_05]: They did.
41:48
[SPEAKER_05]: You see a list of undefeated.
41:50
[SPEAKER_05]: So.
41:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Ohio State and Georgia are going to jump some as Alabama's probably back closer to the 50, but they're still going to not going to door for a playoffs, but they'll probably lose one more and then they'll be out.
42:01
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't put a three law.
42:02
[SPEAKER_05]: You're going to have like from like eight three to 12 or 15 is going to be all SEC teams are all going to be grouped together.
42:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Of course.
42:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, all one lost SEC teams in a couple.
42:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, and now Texas has two.
42:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, Texas has two.
42:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Alabama has two.
42:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Alabama has two.
42:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Alabama has two.
42:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
42:16
[SPEAKER_04]: They're going to be like, well, that's what
42:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Alabama for some time.
42:23
[SPEAKER_05]: I would hope so.
42:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
42:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be honest that I would I was I mean, they were they were ranked ahead of Texas, Alabama.
42:32
[SPEAKER_03]: They were no who's ranked in Texas to seven.
42:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it was six seven.
42:37
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
42:39
[SPEAKER_05]: I think Texas falls down to like 15 dude.
42:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Sarch starts doing it again.
42:44
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't want to even want to fall out of the top 20.
42:47
[SPEAKER_05]: So here's what he was talking about this game last night here here's what I'll tell you just look around college football every single one of these top teams have holes.
42:57
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that's what we're learning, including well, the parents seem to have the parity.
43:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, none of these teams is perfect.
43:03
[SPEAKER_05]: All these teams have weaknesses and that's what this is created.
43:06
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's what that's what I mean, I'll be honest, like I don't, I don't.
43:09
[SPEAKER_05]: I have no issue with where this can stand in terms of against everybody else because I'm seeing all these teams have some specific holes and stuff that can be exploited and it's all just going to come back to you better game who plays better that day.
43:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and you know, this isn't it's going to come down to the quarterback position.
43:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's going to come to it.
43:27
[SPEAKER_04]: It's only here one quarterbacks.
43:29
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's a 24 it's it's it's inching to not inching.
43:33
[SPEAKER_04]: It's moving towards a 2014 playoff.
43:36
[SPEAKER_04]: And there's huge parody in college football.
43:38
[SPEAKER_04]: So you know what happens, it's gonna turn into hockey.
43:41
[SPEAKER_04]: It's gonna turn into NHL hockey.
43:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Now what is NHL hockey?
43:45
[SPEAKER_04]: The regular season really doesn't matter.
43:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Like just get into the playoffs.
43:49
[SPEAKER_04]: What doesn't matter in NHL hockey?
43:51
[SPEAKER_04]: Who has the hottest goalie?
43:53
[SPEAKER_04]: college football is probably going to be who has the hottest quarterback going in.
43:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Last year was Trinidad Chamble.
43:58
[SPEAKER_04]: He took an Ole Miss team and took him as far as he could take him.
44:02
[SPEAKER_04]: We had Carson Beck, he kind of picked up, but we had some running back as well.
44:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Fernando Mendoza ended up being the number one pick overall in the NFL as a quarterback.
44:10
[SPEAKER_04]: It's really going to come down to that who who has the hottest hand when it matters in the regular season because my
44:19
[SPEAKER_04]: And somebody else is just that buzz saw team that guy with the cauliflower ear you just don't want to fight in a back alley bar.
44:26
[SPEAKER_04]: He's just hot, he's just ready to go.
44:27
[SPEAKER_04]: His wife just left them.
44:29
[SPEAKER_04]: He's paying alimony out the ass and he's ready to crack some skulls, dude.
44:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Right?
44:34
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the dude you don't wanna face.
44:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Somebody who's hot.
44:36
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's the way college football's gonna be moving.
44:39
[SPEAKER_03]: It is gonna be, and look, I'm still very much on the fence about this.
44:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I do put out tweets and just to let you guys know some things, I do put out tweets sometimes, just to piss you off.
44:53
[SPEAKER_03]: No, yes, this is true toast.
44:57
[SPEAKER_03]: This is true.
44:59
[SPEAKER_03]: They still have no idea that it's true, but it's fun.
45:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
45:03
[SPEAKER_03]: It's fun to just throw grenades and just watch the calamity.
45:08
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm still very much on the fence about this because I for years, begged.
45:15
[SPEAKER_03]: begged when we had the BCS and whatever crap was before that and I begged them to follow the division to model.
45:27
[SPEAKER_03]: right can we have a playoff can we have a bracket like let's just let's just let everybody not everybody I thought 16 teams was I still think 16 I think 24 too many I do think that I do love how they're doing it I think 16 is great no buys why do you have 12 with a buy well who needs buys do 16 teams just like the division two and three
45:55
[SPEAKER_03]: It's fun to have that game against the buzzsaw.
45:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's what makes all of this great, and back then you couldn't do it.
46:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, Boise, he beat Oklahoma, but how often was that gonna happen?
46:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, never.
46:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, anybody can beat anybody.
46:14
[SPEAKER_03]: With this parody and how they've put this thing together, anyone can be anyone on any day, as you saw last night.
46:23
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what makes the playoffs great.
46:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I think 24s too many, I do.
46:28
[SPEAKER_03]: But I love the brachatology of this.
46:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the fact that they're gonna be on campuses for this.
46:37
[SPEAKER_03]: I love that aspect of it.
46:38
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's, yeah, let's, I mean, just don't please don't do it for more people.
46:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't throw it to 32 next year.
46:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, let's just dip it in the butt here.
46:48
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm a huge fan of getting to watch these, but does it take away from the regular season?
46:55
[SPEAKER_03]: It does.
46:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Pocky.
46:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure it does.
46:59
[SPEAKER_03]: It does.
47:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Last night, last night, yes, we would care because it's Florida State.
47:04
[SPEAKER_03]: If we lose to,
47:06
[SPEAKER_03]: who we play next week.
47:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even know.
47:07
[SPEAKER_05]: It is a pit pit.
47:08
[SPEAKER_05]: We lose our first 12 noon game on a Saturday.
47:12
[SPEAKER_03]: No, gross.
47:13
[SPEAKER_03]: If we lose to pit next week, I wouldn't care.
47:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I literally wouldn't couldn't.
47:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I probably wouldn't even watch the game at 12 o'clock on a Saturday.
47:25
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how much that next year starting next year going for.
47:28
[SPEAKER_03]: It completely delutes the fact that I'm going to try to watch every football game.
47:35
[SPEAKER_03]: And that sucks.
47:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so you've got Pittsburgh at home, then you're going to go to North Carolina, which will be a prime time game.
47:41
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't like that.
47:43
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't like that at all.
47:43
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't like that.
47:44
[SPEAKER_03]: All the big, big, take all bitties.
47:46
[SPEAKER_03]: It's got some got Halloween.
47:48
[SPEAKER_05]: It's going to be like spooky whichy stuff going on.
47:50
[SPEAKER_05]: So that could be in the season.
47:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to be wearing a skeleton costume.
47:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, she'll be.
47:55
[SPEAKER_03]: No, she'll be a slutty nurse.
47:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Inside line helping out with concussion protocol.
48:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Slot you at UNC.
48:04
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, listen, it's been it's been a long so it's a long recapture so let's get as it should be.
48:10
[SPEAKER_05]: I got to finish you last.
48:11
[SPEAKER_05]: I got to go see old people.
48:14
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, so we'll be back for a preview show on Wednesday.
48:18
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll get ready for Pittsburgh and lose yesterday.
48:22
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yes, they would they lost they lost yes to who they lost.
48:27
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know five and two now.
48:28
[SPEAKER_05]: There was not a good loss.
48:30
[SPEAKER_05]: I lost a B C.
48:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Like losing Heinz, you'll end it there season.
48:37
[SPEAKER_05]: Isn't he really just a BC?
48:39
[SPEAKER_05]: It lost to BC.
48:40
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, 27.
48:40
[SPEAKER_03]: They're huge stealer.
48:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Yep.
48:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
48:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Shoe stealer James.
48:43
[SPEAKER_03]: 3 and 3 BC.
48:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
48:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Who's known her name got next week?
48:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Hold on.
48:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Who can they lose to?
48:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you're on a bite.
48:53
[SPEAKER_03]: They can lose a bite.
48:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they get navy.
48:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, there you go.
48:57
[SPEAKER_03]: They could lose that.
48:59
[SPEAKER_03]: At navy.
49:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Navy's terrible this year.
49:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
49:03
[SPEAKER_05]: And then listen, they still got SMU.
49:06
[SPEAKER_05]: on the road.
49:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
49:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wait.
49:09
[SPEAKER_03]: No, so they're off next week.
49:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
49:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Thirty-first.
49:12
[SPEAKER_03]: They put Halloween.
49:13
[SPEAKER_03]: And then they have names off.
49:14
[SPEAKER_03]: But her name's off.
49:15
[SPEAKER_03]: And they got Navy and then us.
49:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
49:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the fact that they've got to deal with Navy the week before they deal with us.
49:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I just all triple options stuff.
49:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I love that.
49:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I love that.
49:25
[SPEAKER_03]: And then they got to lose the Boston College.
49:28
[SPEAKER_04]: What if the line changed for us and Notre Dame?
49:30
[SPEAKER_04]: I wonder if they're still going to have, you know, they were one of the six and a half point favor preseason.
49:34
[SPEAKER_03]: You see, we open it as like a 25 point favor against Pit.
49:37
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm not surprising.
49:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think, man, I, oh my god, are they going to get their asses?
49:43
[SPEAKER_03]: They're going to get destroyed.
49:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I mean, let's, I'll be honest.
49:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, our boys are going to hate this.
49:48
[SPEAKER_05]: This is going to be a brutal week of practice for the boys.
49:50
[SPEAKER_05]: Mario is going to dry is going to be all over their asses.
49:53
[SPEAKER_05]: It's great.
49:53
[SPEAKER_05]: It's great for them.
49:54
[SPEAKER_05]: This is like a loss.
49:55
[SPEAKER_05]: He's going to be treating this like they lost.
49:58
[SPEAKER_05]: Right?
49:58
[SPEAKER_05]: At least so.
49:58
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, show it.
50:00
[SPEAKER_05]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that does the kids are still sitting in a six and a half point favor, by the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really still.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because of this morning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now that well, they haven't, they haven't up there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's clearly clearly accurate.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love it though.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They need to keep that.
50:16
[SPEAKER_04]: They need to keep that one.
50:17
[SPEAKER_03]: That would be great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like stop.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's hop on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll take the money.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I know.
50:20
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We'll see you guys on Thursday for the drop as always.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
50:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Bang!
50:29
[SPEAKER_02]: That's another episode in the books.
50:32
[SPEAKER_05]: What are you waiting for?
50:33
[SPEAKER_05]: Somebody to kiss you goodbye?
50:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, I guess not.
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