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128 SHOCKING: Remote Viewer Says Dogman and Mothman are Connected to Dark Ritual Magic · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man and he had already
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  Speaker 1: had one Paul, massive Paul on my front the chield,
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  Speaker 1: and one Paul right above my mirror on the driver's side,
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  Speaker 1: and the driver's side of my car just pushed down,
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  Speaker 1: just the weight of it just puts pushed down, and
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  Speaker 1: the Paul that was on my front windshield, my windshield
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  Speaker 1: started cracking.
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  Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it.
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  Speaker 3: And then while I was holding it, but it's like the.
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  Speaker 2: Ground underneath me.
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  Speaker 1: Just kind of opened up and I just kind of
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  Speaker 1: fell through the planet.
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  Speaker 4: He wasn't moving, he wasn't blinking, like there was a
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  Speaker 4: complete like just like blankness to his face, like there
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  Speaker 4: was this there was nothing there. I rubbed my corn
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  Speaker 4: of my truck.
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  Speaker 2: I jump out the truck and tuck, and that's what
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  Speaker 2: I knew it was.
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  Speaker 4: It was just gone.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: There would be a real low guteral brown.
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  Speaker 4: One more step and he's going to be in clear view.
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  Speaker 4: And he takes that one.
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  Speaker 3: More step and he just it was like he just
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  Speaker 3: stepped behind an invisible curtain and he wasn't there anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show, everybody.
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  Speaker 3: This is episode one and twenty eight with mister David Powell.
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  Speaker 3: David Powell is a remote viewer. I got tongues tied
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  Speaker 3: a lot in this episode. It was a very long
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  Speaker 3: day of work, a lot of speaking, a lot of translating.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so you'll hear me in there, so enjoy that.
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  Speaker 3: But nonetheless, David Pop came on and I was asking about,
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  Speaker 3: you know, what is remote viewing?
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  Speaker 2: How do you get into it? What is it like?
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  Speaker 2: He broke it all down.
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  Speaker 3: Uh. He was a very very very wonderful guests, very nice, complimentary.
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  Speaker 3: I had a great time with him and we got
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  Speaker 3: into his remote review remote viewing of Bigfoot, Dogmen and
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  Speaker 3: the Mothman.
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  Speaker 2: Very very interesting.
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  Speaker 3: the next one out to you guys, So please enjoy
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  Speaker 3: this episode with one mister David Powell.
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  Speaker 4: All Right, guys, nice see it.
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  Speaker 1: Tom.
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  Speaker 4: Good to be here.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so happy that it was just a strange occurrence.
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  Speaker 3: I seen you write in a comment section of one
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  Speaker 3: of my videos, I don't remember which, and it was
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  Speaker 3: so detailed. I was like, Okay, this guy knows something.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, hey, man, here's my email. Contact me,
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  Speaker 3: and within I think fifteen minutes, he wrote.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It was a SaaS question
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  Speaker 4: that was the topic, and you had a guest on
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  Speaker 4: and I had had a tasking of a SAS question
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  Speaker 4: not all that long ago, so yeah, I was. I
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  Speaker 4: had some comments like, yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 4: going wandering around. But I'm an operational remo viewer. I
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  Speaker 4: was trained via a couple of Stargate guys, Paul Smith,
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  Speaker 4: I've done some work with Bill Ray. So basically I
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  Speaker 4: was on social media one day and I got into
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  Speaker 4: this remote viewing thing, and I was doing. Now, remote
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  Speaker 4: viewing is always done it blind. Like you see, there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of misnomers out there where people like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: you want me to remote through the moon? Okay, hold on, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I see ets and all this. The remote viewing is
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  Speaker 4: the only legitimate remote viewing is done in the blind,
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  Speaker 4: meaning that the remote year has no idea what the
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  Speaker 4: target is until after all his work is done. That's
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  Speaker 4: that's the psychic component, you know. Otherwise you're just you
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  Speaker 4: can't tell imagination from what's psychic, you know. So there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people out there that are totally from
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  Speaker 4: you know, they're just it's it's frauds. So it makes
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  Speaker 4: people like myself, you know, who's done all this training
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  Speaker 4: and work in the blind. It's you know, it's kind
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  Speaker 4: of annoying, but so true remote viewing. You're in the blind.
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  Speaker 4: You don't know what the target is.
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  Speaker 3: You're saying, there's a lot of since uh, since since Cincilization, Yes, terrible,
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  Speaker 3: teaching English all day long, you couldn't tell right there.
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  Speaker 4: But sure, so yeah, so I did that and I
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  Speaker 4: was pulled called into I got a scholarship because I
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  Speaker 4: was a couple of one of the couple of them
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  Speaker 4: were online a couple of start on social media Stargate members,
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  Speaker 4: and they were looks like they were looking for talent,
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  Speaker 4: and I was pretty good just out of the gate
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  Speaker 4: at this. Uh So I got a scholarship to fly
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  Speaker 4: out to Utah, learned, learned CRV, and then before the
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  Speaker 4: ink was dry on my intermediate training, I got pulled
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  Speaker 4: into a subcontractor of the d O D to do
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  Speaker 4: a project. Now he that now Paul, this is through Paul,
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  Speaker 4: the Stargate guy's company. You know, So I think he's
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  Speaker 4: under an NDA on that one is probably maybe, but
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  Speaker 4: I didn't. I wasn't, so I'm free to talk about it.
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  Speaker 4: But it's interesting. It's so interesting, like there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of stigma on on esoteric targets in remote viewing, and
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  Speaker 4: then once you get training, that's the first thing they
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  Speaker 4: throw you into is they want to know some interesting
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  Speaker 4: uh stuff. So but my but when I graduate intermediate,
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  Speaker 4: my target, my last session target was area fifty one.
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  Speaker 4: So it was really interesting when you play with these targets.
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  Speaker 4: When the other student was doing a session on area
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  Speaker 4: fifty one, my phone started ringing by itself from his phone,
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  Speaker 4: which is also in the same room on its own.
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  Speaker 4: I was listening to music. It took me out of YouTube.
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  Speaker 4: It just started dialing itself. It was very strange. So anyway,
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  Speaker 4: so I did this project for them, and what was
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  Speaker 4: interesting was it was a UFO. And here's what I
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  Speaker 4: was told is it was a UFO target, and I
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  Speaker 4: know it was for add contractor. Now Paul and hal
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  Speaker 4: Putov are good friends, so and he's working on the
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  Speaker 4: material sciences of of these, like the crafts and stuff
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  Speaker 4: that have come down and all that. So what I think,
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  Speaker 4: what I believe and I'm speculating here was the target
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  Speaker 4: had to do with maybe possibly where the materials came from.
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  Speaker 4: And the reason why I say is because I'm following,
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  Speaker 4: I'm in it. I found myself sketching a massive UFO
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  Speaker 4: and I am following a human guy through this massive
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  Speaker 4: UFO who I kept declaring as the President. Now I
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  Speaker 4: doubt it was the president. But there's something called we
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  Speaker 4: call analytical overlays when you you kind of make whatever
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  Speaker 4: the target is is bigger, bigger than what it is,
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  Speaker 4: so you kind of arrest that notion. It's like a
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  Speaker 4: high level deduction. Uh. But there was clearly somebody there
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  Speaker 4: that was human. It was being escorted through a large UFO.
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  Speaker 4: And when I was now, I was this is all
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  Speaker 4: could be. You could look this all up. I mean
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  Speaker 4: Bill Ray was my monitor for it, who was in stargate,
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  Speaker 4: and he cued me up to ask, you know, like,
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  Speaker 4: what's most noteworthy here? What's going on? And in that moment,
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  Speaker 4: oh other things that I noticed during the session. Again,
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  Speaker 4: I have no idea what this is. And I'm sketching people,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm sketching other beings of all different kinds, like
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  Speaker 4: non human beings, different sizes like I was. I even
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  Speaker 4: noticed in the session, I'm like, this guy is like
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  Speaker 4: so much bigger than this other guy. So what I
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  Speaker 4: found out, at least during that session, there was some
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  Speaker 4: kind of offering or exchange that was given up, and
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  Speaker 4: I had sketched like something in this guy's hand almost
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  Speaker 4: looked like a flashy stone or something. But and then
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  Speaker 4: after that, I was tasked again to follow that UFO
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  Speaker 4: back to its origin, which I followed back to somewhere underwater.
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  Speaker 4: I've just seen it dip down, and you know, I'm
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  Speaker 4: sketching all this in the sessions.
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  Speaker 3: If you don't mind if you don't mind, David, If yeah,
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  Speaker 3: if you don't mind, David, could you, like, if possible,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what ken cannot be said, Can you
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  Speaker 3: tell us.
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  Speaker 2: What it is and maybe how it works, works or
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  Speaker 2: how it's supposed to work? What exactly? Because you're describing
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  Speaker 2: these things of course, great, thank you?
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  Speaker 4: Oh sure, but.
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  Speaker 2: Then how does the work and what is it supposed
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  Speaker 2: to do?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely? Yes, sorry guys, it's very yeah. Yeah. So basically
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  Speaker 4: what happens is I get a random number, okay, and
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  Speaker 4: on a piece of paper in an envelope somewhere that
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  Speaker 4: random number. There's a tasking which says, like, go to
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  Speaker 4: this event on this day at this location and describe
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  Speaker 4: what's happening. Okay, that is all I get? Is that number?
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  Speaker 4: That's all I get? And I basically you basically through
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  Speaker 4: through your your You start with an idiogram, which is
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  Speaker 4: basically a mark, you scent, You get a sense of
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  Speaker 4: is this land what you know? You very start very small, okay,
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  Speaker 4: you're the psychic. The process starts very incrementally small, and
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  Speaker 4: as you sit in there and dig into the session,
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  Speaker 4: the pieces of data gets richer and bigger. Okay, So
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  Speaker 4: I'm basically starting with small descriptors. It's dark here, it's rocky,
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  Speaker 4: it's you know, it's pebbably, there's there's machines here, type
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  Speaker 4: of thing, and then you get into more high level
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  Speaker 4: concepts and data as you progress through the session. So
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  Speaker 4: I'm sketching, I'm writing words down, I'm writing headers on
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  Speaker 4: the top of the page, like what's most noteworthy at
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  Speaker 4: this target? And then something will come in.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Is this is this under?
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  Speaker 3: Is this under a hypnosis? Are you in a now
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  Speaker 3: in a tank of water with the float tanks or
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  Speaker 3: something like?
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  Speaker 4: In this situation, this situation, I sit at my desk,
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  Speaker 4: I've got a stack of paper here and I'm wide awake,
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  Speaker 4: just working. And so you have things like the Monroe
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  Speaker 4: Institute where it's more out of body. Okay, So there's
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  Speaker 4: several ways to do this, Okay, I do so. So
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  Speaker 4: one way is controlled remote viewing. Okay. So I sit
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  Speaker 4: at a desk, I'm wide awake, I sit with paper.
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  Speaker 4: I start with that number and I kind of stretch
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  Speaker 4: it out like I through that through a process on paper,
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  Speaker 4: so wide awake, and what happens. It's a natural evolution
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  Speaker 4: if you just stick with it, Like as you go on,
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  Speaker 4: if you start perceiving bigger aspects of the target, it is.
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  Speaker 2: It like messages in your mind or is.
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  Speaker 4: There sometimes sometimes it's words, Sometimes it's a feeling. Sometimes
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  Speaker 4: it comes in as a flash image. So it just depends.
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  Speaker 4: Your subconscious will throw this at you in a myriad
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  Speaker 4: of different ways. And over time doing this process, you know,
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  Speaker 4: with you know, one hundreds of sasshions, you start to get.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, there's a protocol that kind of helps
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  Speaker 4: you stay in limits going off the distance. But also
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  Speaker 4: as time goes on, you start to feel a familiarity
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  Speaker 4: of what psychic feels like, like, Okay, this feels like garbage. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: this is completely outside of me. Whatever, this has got
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  Speaker 4: to be validated. It's not coming from me. Yeah, So
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  Speaker 4: you get a feel of it's like it's like passing
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  Speaker 4: the ball back and forth with your own subconscious mind.
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  Speaker 4: And after time you start to recognize the patterns and
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  Speaker 4: how he's trying to communicate. Now, depending on the question
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  Speaker 4: you ask, it may be easier just to show me
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  Speaker 4: a quick image of something. It may be easier for
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  Speaker 4: them to just whisper a word in my you know,
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  Speaker 4: hear a word in my ear.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that would freak me out. Bro.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So you get so familiar. I could tell
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  Speaker 4: in a session when somebody speaking a phrase or or
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  Speaker 4: it's just a data point about the target. It just
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  Speaker 4: comes in in a certain way through your mind where
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  Speaker 4: you're familiar. You know.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, is there? So you were telling me there's a
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  Speaker 3: contractor is so and they're looking into area fifty one,
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  Speaker 3: which is a government installation?
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  Speaker 4: Well, no one was Area fifty one was my instructors
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  Speaker 4: graduating target that Now he just did that. He send
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  Speaker 4: students there, so later on you can write a book
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  Speaker 4: about it. Probably.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, what I'm asking is, so there's there are there are,
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  Speaker 3: there's there's government contractors, there's private contractors, and they kind
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  Speaker 3: of look at each other's things through psychic abilities.
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  Speaker 2: Is that what you're doing?
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  Speaker 4: Well, what I've done a lot of a lot of
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  Speaker 4: dark targets, so and I don't know, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean? I could just go by what after doing
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  Speaker 4: so many targets, like what kind of is going on?
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  Speaker 2: From my prosuit? You're just getting a little bits of
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  Speaker 2: information is for them?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this happens to me all the time. I get
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  Speaker 4: paid and I never get any feedback, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: just know that I might they must be happy with
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  Speaker 4: whatever I gave them. They won't even tell me what
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  Speaker 4: the target was. That happens to me all the time.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, so because like you know, they don't have to.
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  Speaker 4: You know, feedback is helpful. It's nice to have, like
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  Speaker 4: you kind of crazy remo viewer, just because then you
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  Speaker 4: know how well you did, you know, But and once
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  Speaker 4: you get at operations, you don't often get feedback. They
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  Speaker 4: don't even tell you, especially if you're working in a
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  Speaker 4: sensitive area, right.
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  Speaker 3: Right, because why would they because if you're not getting
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  Speaker 3: like a clear like you know, like you know, the
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  Speaker 3: way we perceive reality vision in front of you, even
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  Speaker 3: that is up to you know, like conjecture. So and
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  Speaker 3: if it's something that's sensitive, they wouldn't. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: they would trust.
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  Speaker 2: You with that.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, is.
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  Speaker 3: There a worry of like, okay, so if there's I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you don't have to tell me. But the way I'm seeing,
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  Speaker 3: there's people looking at people trying to figure out information
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  Speaker 3: between them with that, actually you is it like you know,
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  Speaker 3: like CIA stuff where it's more like concrete they can see,
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  Speaker 3: you know how much a country salt intake is to
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  Speaker 3: know if their populations are decreasing or not, or how
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  Speaker 3: much fuel is being used and things like that. It's
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  Speaker 3: a little more concrete data. But if they're doing that,
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  Speaker 3: are you is there any fear that they will look
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  Speaker 3: into your mind and that they can go into you
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  Speaker 3: and then also ritual information that you've been taken from them?
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  Speaker 2: I just don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, okay. So here's where it gets a
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  Speaker 4: little controversial. All right, So when you say if I
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  Speaker 4: remote viewed you or just any random human person anytime
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  Speaker 4: of the day, they it's not like they have any
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  Speaker 4: notion they don't know, you know what I mean, because
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  Speaker 4: you're you're and even if I got if I if
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  Speaker 4: I remote viwed and I was pulling and I was
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  Speaker 4: getting information about you, I'm accessing all that through your
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  Speaker 4: subconscious mind. You don't actively know I'm there, you know,
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  Speaker 4: pulling stuff. But when you deal with some of these
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  Speaker 4: esoteric targets, like some of these ET's and stuff, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: not all the time, but sometimes it seems that they
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  Speaker 4: know you're there, boken around. I experienced that many times.
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  Speaker 3: So you're telling me with one hundred percent certainty other
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  Speaker 3: than your government kind of coming out with that ets
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  Speaker 3: are a real thing.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Could you tell me anything about what they are? What
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  Speaker 2: are they?
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  Speaker 4: I think what we're dealing with, at least from my perspective,
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  Speaker 4: given all the targets that I've done, I think we're
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  Speaker 4: dealing with a layer cakes situation, meaning of realms of perception. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: so so so we are very limited. We seem a
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  Speaker 4: very narrow band of perception. Now when you're when you're
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  Speaker 4: in a psychic function, you get a better perspective, you
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  Speaker 4: can you could perceive more. Okay. Uh, these guys are
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  Speaker 4: they've been cultivating it, and it seems to be like
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  Speaker 4: a second nature to them. Okay, so it gives them.
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  Speaker 4: So imagine, imagine if there's another species out there that's
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  Speaker 4: five percent more psychic than us generally, that's actually quite
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  Speaker 4: a bit you know what I mean, Like it's going
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  Speaker 4: to give them quite a bit of an advantage for
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  Speaker 4: us because when when I mean, I've seen this through
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  Speaker 4: remote viewing, you call it telepathy, whatever, But when I
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  Speaker 4: queue up a question in someone's mind at the target,
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  Speaker 4: I get an answer, you know what I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: hear it, you know, So is it telepathy? Now, if
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  Speaker 4: you're dealing with the cryptid, it's more interactive. Okay, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's more like what are Instead of like feeling like
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  Speaker 4: you pulling something out of the back of their mind,
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  Speaker 4: it's more like, what are you doing here? You get
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  Speaker 4: answers like that. So, yeah, they're more they're more. So
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  Speaker 4: I think what we're dealing with here, at least from
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  Speaker 4: my perspective, is we have there's literal pocket dimensions that
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  Speaker 4: these things could access and come in and out of.
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  Speaker 4: And they they have a obviously they could they could
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  Speaker 4: kind of shut people off. They're just way more psychically
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  Speaker 4: enhanced than we are, you know, so they have a
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  Speaker 4: real advantage. They're seeing every spectrum of life, you know.
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  Speaker 4: So so again they have a huge advantage. Now, So
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: from my perspective, I think you have realms like we're
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: dealing with, Okay, interdimensional things. We've got ets from other planets,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: We've got stuff that's been pulled into this reality through
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: magical dark practices. Okay, there's a lot going on.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's interesting. So you're saying it's a multitude of things,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: that's not just if we're trying to if we're trying
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: to like corner what it is that that is actually
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: the opposite of what it should be. There's a lot
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: more things going on, and do you know that they
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: interact with each other on behalf against us or for us,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: or in cahoots with some agency or something like this.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: There's definitely a dark, sinister aspect of this. I don't
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: think it's all like that. There definitely is. I mean
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: I've had targets where I'm seeing human soldiers like in
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: cahoots working down in a base with seemingly ets doing
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: like hybrid stuff, you know what i mean. So as
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: far as that goes what I think happens, I think
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: we got in bed with a nefarious group early on. Yeah, yeah, probably,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: and we learned that they're actually not for our best
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: interest or something. And I think that's a big part
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: of it, because I don't some of the stuff is
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: very dark. I mean I've been in like I did
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: the Hell Your project. I perceived people down in the
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: caves like screaming, you know, human people and cages and stuff.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: There's very dark things. Now dog Man, I've done dog Man,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: and I've done Sasquatch.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: From my perspective, Okay, let's go ahead and get let's
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: good and yeah, no, I think your perspective. That's great,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: that's school. We're trying to get a base of what's
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: going on, and I think I understand a little bit better.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: That's great. Dog Man, that's cool. You can tell me
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: about them. But I'd like to go into the beginnings
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: of that and why, or maybe not so much why,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: but what you think the reason is?
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, of course it's.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Your opinion on why, because they don't give your feedback
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: on why you had to do that.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I would love to get into both of those.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Why I had to do what?
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Why it was asked of you to psychlic you know,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: remote view Sasquatch and dog Man.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay. Sasquatch was for a documentary. Dog Man was
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: for another client. Someone had been attacked. And this is
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: actually not all that long ago. So Sasquatch to me,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: is very much a real creature. He lives in in
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: very like they're very territorial. So the one that I
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: was dealing with, he was in this Washington park and
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I described the whole scene exactly the way it was
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: and somebody went missing, the CIA guy. So my from
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: my perspective, he was in there. He must have known
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: they were there or something. He was trying to either
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: get a photo or something. But they seemed to know that.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: The Sasquatch when I did this session, it was the
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: thing was answering questions before I could even ask him,
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: you know. So there, they seem to be highly telepathic.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: They're like an apex predator. They could see in the dark.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: And I think a big part of like of what
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: they seem to be interacting or working with these ets too,
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, And I think what it
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: is is it has some it's some kind of a
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: corporate you know, cooperation of protecting these areas because there's
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: very ancient sites around the world and some of these
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: mountains and stuff. And I think there must be some
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: kind of symbiotic relationship because I had both of them
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: working together.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, so what were they? What are the Sasquats exactly?
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: You know, like I said, they're they're They're a real
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: creature there. But to me, what it reminded me of is,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, it was so close to a Native American
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: and it was like it was like, you know, it
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: was like a Native American that just lived in the wild.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: That what reminded me. But they had all these these
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: natural instant like to stay alive. They seem way more accustomed,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: like I don't know if we're from Earth, but they
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: definitely are, like like if you think about yeah, because
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: I mean you think about how we developed, we could
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: not wait to get out of the woods, like we're
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: very like you know what I'm saying.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Going in there now, leaving.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: That target, it made me think like like they if
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: you think about just the way we came up, it's
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: so strange, like they seem so accustomed. Like the reason
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: why they're so aggressive, other than the territorial thing is
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: if you think about from their perspective, they don't like
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: anything about us. You know, they don't like the technology.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: They don't let their picture taken. They want you to
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: stay off their land. Some of their land. I think
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: that they've had their dead buried on this and people
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: don't know you're in their territory. So when when I
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: got the forest preserved that he was at, they had
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: cleared out some brush and built some bridges and stuff
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: like that. And I'm going through the session, I'm sketching
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: him and I'm getting his feelings, like well, I'm not
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: happy about these trees being cut down. The trees. They
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: have a very strong relationship to the trees. The trees
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: getting ripped out was like somebody come into your house,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: rip the studs out of the walls. I mean, they
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: did not like that at all.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: So they're not always aggressive, though I've heard many encounters
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: of them being more spiritual.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure they're curious. And but again
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: and again, I could just go from my experience, I don't,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: of course, you know, you know, but they seemed highly
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: telepathic and in that they know what your intentions are
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: when you walk in those woods. So if you walk
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: in there and you're not trying to catch them on camera,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: you know, if you're just going there literally the true
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: like maybe you're just doing again. You want to have
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: a real experience, that's one thing. But I don't think
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: you're gonna go in there and I'm smart. I mean,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: they lived, Yeah, I mean, it's like it's like a
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: game for them. So now I don't want to get
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: off topic, but I want to say that dog Man
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: and the Mothmen I've also done, and that was.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: That's not off topic. That's not off topic.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: So those those two. What I got was strong dark,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: ritualistic magic attached to both of those. So if you
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: think about Alistair Crowley and parises and stuff, they weren't
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: doing they were getting results, okay, whatever they were doing,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. So what I'm you know,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: us as humans, from my perspective as a psyche remo viewer,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: humans have a perception problem. You know, we're getting this
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: little little bit of reality and we have there's these
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: other realms that are right in front of us. We're
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: just not we have we can't perceive them, you know.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's it's interesting.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: I think, I think that, I think that even yeah,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I even think about I think even uh, what can
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: you say about psychedelics role in changing this perception? Do
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: you know anything about that or is there any not
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: not experience so much? But if you I don't know
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: exactly if if you can say anything to that.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: No, I mean I know there's projects that they you know,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: their experiments with microdosing and stuff like that. It wouldn't
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: be it wouldn't surprise me. I haven't been a part
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: of us. I don't know, you know what I mean,
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: But it wouldn't surprise me if they have some they
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: have actually have heard that they have had some success
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: with that.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: So oh yeah, I mean I've I've listened.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm a big fan of Terence McKenna and
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: a like where they describe you know, reality just dissipating
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: in front of you and you literally talk to beans
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: made a light telepathically. So this is just it seems
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: to be like somewhere's in the realm in which you are,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: where you kind of change your you know, your whatever,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: your conscious output or your conscious input. If you see
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: it like an intend to like I do, and then
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: somehow like alter that through whatever state that you're in,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: then something like that can also happen. So I would
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: imagine that, I mean, course, back in the sixties and
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: things like that, we know whatever doing you know, LSD experiments,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Uh what was it, the Operation Night something or other
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: wherever we're giving like CIA agents this and then trying
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: to get like you know, women of the Night to
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: pull information out of them and things like that. But
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: there's also other deep ones like object looking glass where
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: it's like they can like project into the future and
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: see that, you know, no matter what it is, because
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: when you change something now supposedly the future changes, and
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: they said, no matter what it is we do now,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: the outcome that we want in the future, we can't do.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: So they had to like abandon that project. So it's
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: just I don't know, man, Like I just never talked
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: to anybody who's done this and who gets you know,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: paid for it. It's a it's quite astounding actually, And
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know. How do you do you develop this?
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Or is this some type of natural ability that you're
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: born with.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Everybody's born with it. We could all do it. It
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: can be cultivated, it could could you can get better,
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: you know, it's it's it's it's it's very much to
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: me at least, it's almost like going to the gym.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: You know, you get real because you're getting so familiar
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: with these like signals from your subconscious and it's all
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: about getting to know yourself, like how you how you
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: work yourself, and like I could even tell when I'm like, oh,
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I must really like this target. Like I could just
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: feel getting pulled into the the to the information. But
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: everybody's got the ability to do it. Yeah.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're when you're saying things like you know,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: dog man and mouthman or some type of manifestation of
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: like a negative black magic ritual type situation. Isn't there
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: a part of you that like is a little bit
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: for me trepidacious about you know, actually doing that.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, your life.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, I've had stuff follow me home, dude,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: into that home. There was. I used to do a
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: lot of dark targets, okay, and I don't I don't
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: even know where I picked it up at, Okay, but
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: I could tell you that that's because I've done so
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: many of them. But I could say there was a
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: time where I was waking up every night, multiple times
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: a night, feeling like somebody was squeezing me or choking me,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: you know, like over you know, over time, I'm like,
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: what is this going to die? I'm like, do I
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: have a sleeping app near or something like? No? No, no.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Something was malicious and it was seemed to be tormenting me,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, And I finally I finally got rid
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: of it now, and I got rid of it by
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: by putting some attention on what the hell's causing us?
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: You know, I spent some other viewers and it was
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: something very malicious. But you know, I did a target
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: it was this missing there's a boat in Argentina that
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: went missing off the coast of uh San Mateo like
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: decades ago. Okay, so the Stargatermo viewers did this too,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: and it was like it had affected a lot of
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: REMO viewers and it was it was it was, to
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: be honest with it was a little too advanced for
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: me before I did it, because I picked up like
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: some PTSD from that target. But anyway, so what ended
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: up happening was there was a mine sweeper and they
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: found the boat, food hot on the table, empty out
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: on the ocean, like they couldn't figure out where everybody went.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: The boat was in good condition whatever, but apparently there's
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: something in the water there that they had interacted with.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Because these guys are like, these guys are like ants, man,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: and they're they're they're grow under our fingernails, man, They're
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: in the water, they're in the caves, they're and they're
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: all different factions and stuff. So the biggest realization to
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: me was as humans were the lowest form of high
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: level intelligence on planet Earth. We thought we were the highest,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: but nactuality, we're probably not.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, So like I was thinking, you know.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: There has to be something that's happening, because it seems
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: that I don't know if it's because of the Internet,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: but these decent conversations seem to be at least I
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: don't know if it's because of what I do or
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: my interest involved in it through my paranormal experiences that
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: most people have.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I would say I would get if I had to,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: you know, venture to.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Guess, I would say every percent of a seventy percent
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: of people that there is a that there is a
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: thing that's that's happening right now in the world. And
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what that is. Is there anything
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: you can say to that to why this is such
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: common play now?
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So what I think has happened, and I think
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: it's at this point it's pretty clear is our government
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: seems to be at war with itself with this topic.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: And over the years, you know, people talk about the cabal.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: There is some seemingly against from my perspective, some organization
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: that is interacting with these things. Who is wearing at
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: least some face of the US or you know, and
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: you know you have these missing scientists and stuff like that.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: That's not a coincidence. I task that out that's there's
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: energy weapons involved. Ok yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, there there's
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: not a coincidence that eleven people or whatever that happened
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: to be working on exactly technology just disappears. Yeah, it's
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: not a coincidence. There's other people that need to know too,
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: is we have energy weapons out there that may that
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: you know, we have weapons that make you sick, but
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: we have other weapons possibly too that literally the point
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: something at your head and it makes you think something
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: or do something whatever.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah something technology. Yes, I heard of this.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: So going into mccaf, I, oh wow, what.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: We basically these people or just trying to control the
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: narrative or try to control the narrative.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what happening is, here's what I suspem this.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm just suspecting you just from everything
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: I've done seeing. I think that there was an arrangement
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: and agreement and that came to a close or something,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: and now whatever whoever we got in bed with, whatever
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: faction of ets or dimensionals, I don't know, whichever, they
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: don't want this out. I think that, you know, I
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: think that that's part of it, because we're obviously we're
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: being used for something. And they're pulling us out of
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: I think I think what happened is we when we
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: when these things came down or made their appearance, whether
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: it be ros or whatever, we're like, oh, we want
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: to be out in space? Do we want to go
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: out and do all these things and all that? And
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: they're like, no, you guys aren't. You don't have the
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: DNA for it. You can't live out in space long.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: You make a bunch of you know, you spend all
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: this energy, you're not telepathic, blah blah blah blah. And
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: we're like, well, well what could we do? Oh, well,
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: we can make you a hybrid, you know, we can
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: make you like a semi group of humans. And you
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: got those guys could go out and do those things
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: because at some point we got in bed with somebody
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: and and there's I mean, I can't tell you how
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: many times. I mean, I've had clients come to me
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: with missing time and I'm seeing ets. Sometimes I'm seeing
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: military with ets.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: You know, Yes, I've heard of this too.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so there must be. And it's got to be
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: some form of the US. I mean, you know what,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, who else would it be?
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's well, it's gonna be maybe a
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: bit of a curve ball of a question. But what
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: and I don't mean this in any negative connotation or
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: any negative way, but what is your purpose for coming
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: on and talking with me today? Why do you want
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: to share this information because it's just thing we should know.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Do you feel like a higher power calling you forward
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: to do so or it's just you think people should
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: know what exactly is? Why why are you talking with me?
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's just interesting.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you're not my first podcast.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Microphone.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean you ask. That's why I said, yes,
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I'm glad there's a here.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: That's why I said.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: I didn't mean it that way, but it would be
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: a purpose And why you're Yeah, the really.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Reason why I come, I didn't. I only comment because
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: you happen to be doing a show that just was
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: right on this topic. I had just done this big
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Foot target and I just kind of wanted people let
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: people to know that, like, you know, be careful if
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: you're gonna go well, I wouldn't do it, even even
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: if I knew my attention, I wouldn't go out there.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: I don't mean to see them. I mean for what
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? I mean, you know what
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, like they I didn't get the impression when
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: I did the Sasquat. If you know, you'll see remo
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: viewers do these targets. A lot of them Missasquatch. And
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: the reason why, I think a big reason of that
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: is because they could. They could turn you around. They
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: have the ability to do that. I don't know how,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: but I've seen a lot of good remote viewers miss
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: that target. And when I was when I was working
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: on it, I got a sense them like is this Sasquatch?
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: And I kind of went in with the the like
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: the attitude of look, I'm not trying to step on
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: your toes. I've just got I've just got a task.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: I just got to poke around. I got to figure
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: out what's going on, that's all I'm not. And with
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: that everything just opened up. So I think that they're
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: kind of a you know, I think that they have
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: a high level sophistication in that way. Now they're not
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: going to go, you know, engineer or some kind of
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: contraction or something, but they definitely felt smart enough that
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: way and telepathic enough that I felt he let me in,
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: you know, just to give some people in this case, I've.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Heard people saying that, you know, they'll be in their
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: house and you'll hear them talk to them in their head,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: or they'll tell them what there are, you know, we're ancient,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: uh you know where, and we're that, but we're definitely
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: or they'll tell them this is what we're not. We're
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: not just some ape running around in the woods that
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: you might think. We're actually a little bit more. And
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: what I've come to understand, especially I've had a few
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Native Americans, like real like medicine women come on and
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: talk to me about them, and it's it's just commonplay
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: that it's a it's a mutual respect between them. This
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: is in every folklore at least as far as I
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: know of North America, and it's it's it's it's just
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: such an interesting thing that for some reason, there seems
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: to be a lot of misinformation out there. I was
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: talking to a gentleman who said that there's actually, you know,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: agencies that will go online and go through these channels
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: and go through different you know, Facebook groups or whatever
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: and actually stir you know, stir up ship for lack
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: of a better word, so that people that there's no
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: clarity on any of this. And then you have someone
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: coming forward who's saying, from my house, I've talked to them, uh,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: and I don't want to go in the woods with him.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: But then you also say things like that. Which freaks
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: me out is that you know, you're like, oh, I
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: was you know, remote viewing mouth man or something of
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: this nature, and this followed me home.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: But that, for me is almost.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Scarier than actually being like there's a physical large you know,
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: for lack of a better word, you know, ape like
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: creature standing in front of me, throwing rocks at me.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: It is scary for like the first month. Then you
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: just start getting pissed off. They're just like this is
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: starting to piss me off, like because you get annoyed,
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: you know at this point. Yeah, but I've had so
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: many like experience, like very bizarre experience with world viewing.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: It takes a lot nowadays to really scare me, because
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: you kind of grow, you grow into your ability, and
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: like with like with sasquatch, in any any any being
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: or like you know you're dealing with individuals, you know
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: you're gonna have some probably that are going to be
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: more curious. Maybe the younger ones are a little more
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: curious of the field, and you're gonna have some like,
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: oh god, this is this guy's you know, seventy years
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: old or something, and he's grumpy as shit, you know,
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: and they eat meat and he knows your intentions, you know.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: So you know, that's so interesting.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: What's I mean, like, what's thanks for us? I mean,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: we're all this, all this information is now seems to
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: be pouring out. Is there is there any hope for us?
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Are you getting any good vibes somewhere?
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I think so. I think there's you know, there's
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: so much happen in the world right now. I think
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: what we're somehow this seems to be a part of
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: is I think that we're in some kind of a
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: consciousness awakening or revolution. And the reason why, the reason
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: why I say that is because like even when you
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: look back at remote viewers from the you know, from
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: the eighties and stuff like that, we've come a long way.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Like for some reason, the remot views of today are
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: much better in general. And I don't think it has
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: anything to do with anything other than some kind of
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: building up. Just like it's like we're waking up, you know,
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: like and you know that that like you know, now
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: it's all the mainstream and stuff. Obviously it's more accepted.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: But you know how back of the day, I mean,
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: you said psychic the first thing comes to your head
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: is like somebody in a turb Yeah, yeah, sou But
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: in remoteviewing is just a part of it. There's psychometry,
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: there's channeling, there's all kinds of different psychic stuff that works.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: It's effective. Yeah. Remote being is very scientific though it's
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: you bring up you can really prove it's worth if
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: you're on target.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Is it somehow maybe even connected to dreams? Like where
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: like the concept and dreams that maybe there's some I'm
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: just asking a question.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you know any of this. I'm
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: just firing in the dark. Man.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I really don't know much about it because honestly, I'm
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: afraid of the topic because I've had some experience for
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, you know, I'm gonna go ahead and
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: step away from that.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I don't need that I got, you.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Know, I I'll just stay on this side of the
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: fence and be the person who pervades the information instead
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: of letting it, you know, go into me, is there
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Like what I'm trying to say is damn, I kind
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: of lost my and thought. But basically there's a there's
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: there's something going on, and uh, I think we're on
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: the spearhead of something. And I do agree with you
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: with the with the awakening of the consciousness, and I
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: would say something to do with the long cycle to
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: my encolendar, I am forty six. I was thirty two
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: when that happened. And I realized and I noticed that
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: rated that moment, a lot of things started happening, a
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: lot of this woke stuff and a lot of this
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: a lot of like strangeness to like kind of, in
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: my opinion, to distract us from whatever this big thing
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: that is now arising, to keep the kind of stray
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: us off course. It's just it's just an interesting time.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: To be alive.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: And I'm really happy that I'm that I'm able to
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: experience it.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Honestly, do you watch a Skinwalker ranch?
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I do not watch a Skinwalker ranch? No, No, I
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: have no. I know a little bit about it. I
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: know somebody who was in it, not an adjacent farm,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: but a farm close to it, an area close to
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: that part of Utah, which is interesting because that's where
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: you get because that's exactly where you want to get
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: your training, which made some of my synapses fire off,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: and so many interesting things about that place. I know
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: a little bit about it, but what do you want
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: to tell me about it?
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: Well, there's definitely stuff in the ground. There is artifacts
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: in the ground. What I've sent somebody and they got
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: an ancient city buried buried there in the property within
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: that mesa, you know. But in addition to that, there's
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: other remote viewers. I mean, bird, he's done some but
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: what it looks like to me, it's to me it's
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: after seeing some real viewing. It's pretty obvious. So he
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: has something on the ground. But you also have these
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: beings that are I think that are interdimensional, and us
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: humans are over here playing, we're doing experiments. They're shooting
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: up rockets and stuff. They are the experiment. There's these
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: interdimensional eats are like inserting stuff into this bubble, you,
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: you know, to get a reaction out of them. I
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: don't know, but there's a lot of things going on there. Yeah,
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: it's very interesting.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I always have this I don't know what
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: I think. The thing that I like about humanity is
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: our is our mistakes. I enjoy that. That's why AI
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: for me personally, especially when it comes to what we
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: know AI is to be. Now who knows what it's
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: going to turn into. Is like you know, you can
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: say five words and say make this hook through this
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: line and there's a song. But the imperfections in music
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: like the Beatles and things or you know, the Stones
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: or whatever, and you listen to like, oh, there's some
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: fret buzz there, or like the you can tell that
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: it's not perfectly miked up on the bass drum or
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: whatever it may be, is what makes us super special.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: So there's a part of me. And then I think
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: another part of us that is super untouchable is this
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: interconnection with God, whatever that is for you. I'm not
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: a religious person. I just have this belief or this
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: faith in this because of my personal experiences. And I
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: think our undying hope is what will never or which
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: is what will be there for.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Us when we need it most.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Is that hope, the knowing that things will be better
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: or but they're trying to project a lot of darkness
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: into us because you know, even our cell phones are
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: basically a portal in which they constantly try to make
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: you feel a certain way.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: And if you feel a.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Certain way about whatever, you know, something crazy, abortion, whatever,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: then they go ahead and they say, oh, we'll silo
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: you here so that you see things that fit here.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: And so if you look at my feed, I go
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: both ways. I have this on the other and you
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: see the craziness on both sides. And I think that's
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: to distract us. I mean, the mere fact that clicks
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: is how they make money. So therefore it's not good
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: information a lot of times. And I think they're really
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: afraid of our hope. Man, I really think so to
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: be as a terror.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, like I've done a lot of
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: there's some things from just this process that are just
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: you just no, like like I know there is a
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: not like this is just a suit, you know what
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, Like when I die, I'll be onto something else.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: I mean because because I'm the reason why I know
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: that is because I'm accessing I'm accessing data somewhere else, right,
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: So there's so so there's you know, there's a non
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: local so I don't necessarily need to be in the body.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: And and you go to you gotta what is it
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: the the Monroe Institute. They'll take you right out of
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: your body. You you look right down on your but
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: you know, so it's just it's just the way it is.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: It's just a part of our existence.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to attach to, you know, religious connotations,
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: but we are just. But we are a theoral in nature.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, when when this is gone, we're we're still there.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: You know you can't yeah, I mean you can't. You
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: can't destroy the unders, you know, the undestroyable. It's just
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: it doesn't happen. I don't know where I'll be going,
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: but but.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: You know, I think it's like the third law of
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: thermal dynamics, that energy can't be destroyed, it's just transferred
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: or something like that.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's that in there too.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: That's also if you guys want to look you know,
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: people love science, so go ahead and look into that.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: I wanted to actually ask you about the reflections of
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: your experiences compared to looking forward, compared to how it's
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: changed your life. Is anything you want to add to
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: that before or is anything you want it? You can
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: also if it's anything you know, uh, that you want
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: to say that you would like to say any kind
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: of message that you would like to tell humanity.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: Sure. So when I came into this, I was so excited,
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: like I just it's just an amazing thing. What I do,
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, like what we can all do it? Just
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: the gratification you get from like nailing a target that
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: you had no idea what it was and stuff it
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: It just burned like a fire, okay within me. And
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: when that happens, like I was very kind of closed off,
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: like I wasn't a person who saw ghosts and stuff
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: like that or dead people. But I'll tell you, when
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: you start opening these channels, you start to get some
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: of that even if you weren't looking for it. I
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: have a I did. I did a there's an affair
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: Acinonton if you've heard of him, he was he was
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: a pharaoh or something in Egypt or whatever, And I
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: did a big project on that. And during that session,
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Actnoton seemed to like be excited because we were trying
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: to figure out how he had died. Okay, that was
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: the you know, and again I'm blind, but whoever he
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: was seemed so excited that he would it was. It
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: turned into like more of a channeling, like he's talking
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: to me Okay, so I've been For another example, I
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: was blindly tasked a Church of the Knights, Templar Church,
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: you know, blind blind. I'm going through the session. I'm
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: describing coffins and stuff like that, and you know, and
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: just the church and all this, and all of a sudden,
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: a night just shows up, just boom, right in my face,
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: and he's like, what are you doing here? And I'm like,
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: this is in the session. I'm writing it down. There's
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: a night here. He's talking to me, is you know,
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm just looking around. That's all gone.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: I did a and again I'm always blind. I did
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: another target. It was it was a museum of all
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: these this Native American old artifacts. Right, I'm around, I'm
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: describing things stuff like that. All of a sudden, boom,
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: a native chief just shows up. What are you doing here?
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: I'm just looking around like so, now this doesn't happen
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: to everybody, but there is something about my perception where
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: these you know, there must be something of me there
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: and there must be something of somebody else there. Interaction. Yeah,
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: so Native American artifacts I get in India, a Native
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: American chief, okay, ghost, Apparently I'm at the knights templar.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: I'm getting a knight, you know, a church, you know that.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: But they've got knights buried in the basement and all
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: this stuff. Right, So again I'm picking up on a
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: layer of reality. Seemingly that's there. It's always there. It's
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: just we don't you know. And at that time, seemingly
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: they noticed I was there, you know, and they started
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: asking me questions. So unless something weird is happening, all
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: the evidence shows me that we're there, you know, there's
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: a part of us there because sometimes we get interacted
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: with while we're there.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: I had a gentleman on he does he doesn't in
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: his dream. I can't think of the word of it
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: is within the dream. There's a remote viewing, which is conscious,
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: and then there's the one in your dream where you
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: can control your dreams. I know I'm flying whatever that
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: may be. Where there was an incident that happened. Someone
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: passed away and it was like a close person to him.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: It was an older gentleman who was like a father
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: figure to him, and his friend was his friend was
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: the guy's father was, you know his whatever?
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Hell that works in my brain. I'm having a bad
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: day today. It's been a long one.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: And he said, okay, so this guy can do this
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: interactive dreaming whatever that there's a specific word for it.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: People are going to kill me, I know that. But
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: in the dream, normally, if something jumps in front of
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: him in his mind, he can sit, just go. He
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: can just kind of move it out of the way
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: and say get out of here, and then jump and
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: fly and do whatever he wants to. But this time
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: said this is dreaming. Thank you, sir, Thank you so much.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: I knew you were here for a reason to help
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: me out, and humility is important. And he said, now
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: you can't do that right now. I want you give
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: uh because his son was moving to another country, right
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: and he said, don't worry about it, it's ok Tell him.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: First of all, you can't just blink me out of
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: existence right now. I want you to tell him that
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: I'm okay where I'm going. I can't give these messages anymore.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: But if you can do me a favor and tell
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: him that he's okay and I love him and I'm fine,
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: that would be great for me. And he come out
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: of the dream and he's like, okay, I am not
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: going to say anything. You know, the funerals just passed.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: It's not time for that. And like two weeks later,
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: you're supposed to leave to wherever he was going in
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: another country, and he goes, Man, I got to pull
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: you aside it because it's so weird to me. I
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: got to tell you this man, your father showed up
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: in a dream. Any guy goes, my father showed up
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: in dream. Let me guess what. Let me guess he
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: told you that everything is fine where he's going down
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: to Da Da and he just detailed everything that he
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: said to him, and he goes.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he is.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my sister told me and my mother told me
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: to thank you very much. And he was upset about it.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: So that's It's another it seems to be in the
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: lucid dreaming world, another way in which some of these
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: messages get put through. It's just it's just weird. I
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: don't know what what this world is, but I enjoyed
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: the hell out of it.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: I really do.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there is from where Like again, I've done a
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: lot of wild targets. Okay, so in projects, and one
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: of them was, you know, I remote you quite a
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: you know quite a few dead people and what when
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: I'm interacting with him depending on how the target's setting up.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: This is good going a lot of time, but there
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: is there seeming from my experience, there seems to be
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: not maybe not everybody, but the way the like experiences,
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: like you said, were these things up in somebody's dreams
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  Speaker 4: that are able to perceive it and then carry off
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  Speaker 4: that message to someone. Okay, so what what I've experienced
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  Speaker 4: in my own life is you know, like I said,
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: I do many I do trans channeling, I do automatic
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: writing stuff like that, so I don't let anybody take
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: over my body. But to me, it's just telepathy. I'm
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: just listening and I hear the message kind of thing.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: And if I don't listen, they'll just chew my ear.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: They'll just keep bugging me until I write it down.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: But but that came, that started to come, you know,
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: after time, people are like this guy could hear you?
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: You know. So, oh, I don't know where I was
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: going with this, but anyway, but those certain beings that
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: have passed that seem to be like taking this role
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: as like a guardian or something. They could put stuff
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: into your timeline. I've been talking to a colleague about this.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: They could put stuff into your timeline to make things
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: go together, like like a syncreticity thing or okay, so
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: time for them is completely different. It's it's like a wheel.
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: It's like they could put this it's like, okay, we
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: want him to go or to see this side, you know,
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: and then it'll make him realize something. And for them,
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: it's like a wheel. I'll put it here and then
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: spin it and then it'll it'll and then it'll come
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  Speaker 4: up in your reality just the right time. Like I've
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: got data that that made sense, like later on, you know,
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: they could it's like they could put it anywhere in
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: time to make it hit at the right moment. So okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: spirit guys or whatever. But but I think some of
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: that yeah yeah, And I don't have to talk about
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: it because it's it's it's what I was so sciency.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: I was so like, this is a scientific thing, this
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: is not a But what happens is is you become
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: more open to these things around you, and it's either
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: and you can ignore them, but they just get louder,
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: I think. But I think from my perspective, there seem
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: to be it's there seem to be beings out there
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: that are trying to help us out. They're trying to
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: to help us, but you got to you gotta be
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: open enough to see the message. You know what I
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: mean that we're walking around with blinders on. Oh yeah,
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: it took me a long time. Like people don't even
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: acknowledge the psychic component. We're all psychic. So that's the
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: first step. Acknowledge that, and then if you want to
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: cultivate it, there's lots of ways.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: To do that. Interesting.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Interesting is there is there a book in the future
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: for you? Is there anything you're promoting today?
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: Actually, well, I mean you could. You could check out
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: my YouTube channel als Erzer three. I have a bunch
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: of targets I've done. There's education videos on there. There's
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: all kinds of videos. Will probably over one hundred videos.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: I am working on a book on the my journey,
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: but also the sociological aspect of remote beling, where these
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: people learn remote vieling from someone and then they become
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: like guru worshipers. Oh my gosh, this guy and then
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of backbiting within the field of remote viewing.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: So that fascinates me. But but it's so competitive, you'd
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: be you'd be surprised how competitive. So I just kind
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: of do my own thing. I get calls, I get
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: work coming through my channel. I could only take about
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: half of them because sometimes I get people like, oh,
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: can you tell me what's going on? I have I'm
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: not breathing right, Yeah, go see a doctor, you know,
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: if you if you wouldn't sell it if you saw yeah, yeah,
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: if you saw a doctor and they don't know, then
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: we'll talk, you know. But because I have a project manager,
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: they'll they'll filter all this stuff. So some things I
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: don't do, like I won't do wagering targets, money targets
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: because I can't. I don't trust it. Get there's there
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: seems to be a when it comes to money and
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: gambling remote viewing, there seems to be another component. It's
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: almost like a control factory.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know, I apparently I wasn't here to
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: just tie into psychic network and just make a bunch
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: of money, So.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: But I do that was.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, there's a couple of things. First of all,
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: like numbers, Like numbers don't have what we're feeling, you know.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Remoteting is feeling with your mind. There's no feeling to numbers.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: There's no I can't. I can't touch it, I can't
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  Speaker 4: smell it. I can't.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: It's like what they call it synesthesia, whatever it is,
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: like you know, like.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: Three blue and yeah, yeah, I don't know.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a big numerology guy.
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: Myself, but I've seen it where it's literally taken me
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: in the exact opposite direction. It's almost like, you know,
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: there seems to be a filtering effect. Yeah, yeah, I
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: feel like, to be honest, this is my my opinion.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: I think there's a predestination aspect to our lives now
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: and I'm not readily aware of it. But our subconscious
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: is not bound by time. So let's say you you
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: just enter this life, you're a newborn baby. Your subconscious
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: mind could have already made every decision you're ever going
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: to make, and you're just waiting for them to play
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: out in real time.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: So interesting. Interesting.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: So when you actually fight against your subconscious, that's where
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: you probably have some mental issues, Like like there's a
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: party that really knows what it is, and there's the
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: other party who thinks it knows, and then if you
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: don't listen to that inner voice society, then that's when
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: a lot of turmoil happens. I definitely believe that too.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: To get in touch with your real self, it's it's
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: a it's a it's a process, and sometimes you basically,
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: you know, metaphysically, have to hit yourself and I have
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: with a baseball bat, or the baseball bat will hit
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: you without you even wanting you to because you're not
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: listening to yourself. I agree with that too, That's so true, David.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: This has been amazing. Man.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: It was just such a surprise thing. My brain is
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: not working today.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: It must be one of the worst interview sessions I've
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: ever had, and normally I do a lot better, but
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: I just didn't know where to go with I guess
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: uh yeah. It was just it was great and cool
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: and there's probably a million questions that I'm not asking.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: But maybe one time I'll hook back up with you
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: and that can even you actually write something down. It
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: seems to be something I need to do with this situation.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Man. Thank you so very much.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: You're welcome and just for people out there, being is
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: very cool thing. Don't get wrapped up in like the
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: particular methodology. There's plenty of methods that were great, work
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: well with your your your you know, your your peers
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: and you know. But yeah, yeah, happy to be great,
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: great torn.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, great to meet you man. Guys.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: Just open your mind, open your heart, man, and you
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: just might find something more than this world in which
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: you uh did You might know, guys. So we are
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: the eye, we are where. I love you all later.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Thanks David A.