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5-25-26 Hour 2 - Avalanche lack mental fortitude/Failing to meet expectations/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Kine on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: Just given what happened in that game and where the
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  Speaker 2: series is at now, like what is kind of the
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  Speaker 2: emotion at the moment from you and from your group
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  Speaker 2: that you've known.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's low as low as it can get, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because you got a big hill to climb and to
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  Speaker 3: the next twenty four to thirty six hours as far
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  Speaker 3: you got to find a way to get over it
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  Speaker 3: and regroup and.
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  Speaker 4: Go again, s Beddar after the game again, just if
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  Speaker 4: you guys are are just puting in our thoughts, our hearts,
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  Speaker 4: our prayers all go out to our our friend Vic
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  Speaker 4: who lost his dad over the weekend and getting to
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  Speaker 4: know Easy over the last seven and a half years,
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  Speaker 4: I truly think you know, and it's it's fitting on
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  Speaker 4: a day like Memorial Day where you honor those who
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  Speaker 4: have paid the ultimate sacrifice. Having a battle with dementia
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  Speaker 4: over the last four years has been a brutal process.
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  Speaker 4: But he is truly if I had to tell the
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  Speaker 4: story of an American dream people coming over from anywhere
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  Speaker 4: in the world and making a life and a beautiful
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  Speaker 4: life for his family, for his children. I think you
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  Speaker 4: can point to no better example than Easy, who is
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  Speaker 4: just in unbelievably awesome and admirable human beings. Who our
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  Speaker 4: thoughts go out to a Vic and his family at
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  Speaker 4: this time, who he's built, He and Bambina.
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  Speaker 5: He and Bambina man did it right, yep, and wanted
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  Speaker 5: you know, wanted a better life for themselves for sure,
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  Speaker 5: but drove to work his I mean his bought off yep,
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  Speaker 5: to provide for his family and to build a family,
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  Speaker 5: a successful family. He and Bambina did an amazing job.
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  Speaker 5: And you're right, Brett, when you're talking about American dream
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  Speaker 5: type of stuff. You know, Vic sent out that little
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  Speaker 5: video that concluded with Easy on the back of his
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  Speaker 5: scooter yesterday morning, and just to hear is he explain,
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  Speaker 5: you know what, why did you leave Italy? You know
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  Speaker 5: why'd you come here in why Denver?
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  Speaker 6: And so on?
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  Speaker 5: And yeah, I just I can't express my sympathies enough
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  Speaker 5: to the Lombardi family, into to Donna and to Deli
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  Speaker 5: on Mario and Bambina and all the family. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I've been to Easy's village, you know, in uh In,
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  Speaker 5: in Italy. On multiple occasions they treated me, and I
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  Speaker 5: guess maybe that's the way it might hurt so bad
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  Speaker 5: for even me.
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  Speaker 6: It's not my father treating me like gold.
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  Speaker 5: I've met all of his cousins, you know what I mean. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I've I've I've been in it. I mean, I had
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  Speaker 5: to crawl through the trees inside of his old house.
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  Speaker 5: There's trees growing up in the middle of his old
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  Speaker 5: house and snakes and whatnot. But I climbed in there
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  Speaker 5: and and weave my because I wanted to be in
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  Speaker 5: that house. Because he was just such a great guy,
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  Speaker 5: and I appreciated him as a as a man and
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  Speaker 5: as a father. And it's a sad, sad day, and
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  Speaker 5: it really is. We've got our job to do. We're
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  Speaker 5: gonna talk hockey today and perhaps a couple of other things.
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  Speaker 5: But more importantly for the entire Lombardi family are our
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  Speaker 5: heartfelt sympathies and much love to all of them.
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  Speaker 4: Now to the hockey part of this, uh the aves
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  Speaker 4: are now down oh three. And there was an answer
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  Speaker 4: from bed NARDA was to start the presser and it
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  Speaker 4: was just like, what's changed when you talk about Uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, this was in the context of from the
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  Speaker 4: first period to the second period and beyond last night,
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  Speaker 4: but I think this could apply to this series in general.
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  Speaker 4: It was what changed after the first period.
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  Speaker 3: Everything, Yeah, first nine minutes it was like kind of
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  Speaker 3: looked like portions of Game one for me in parts
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  Speaker 3: of Game two where we were mismanaging the pocket like breakouts,
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  Speaker 3: and then like they just got more competitive and we
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  Speaker 3: didn't stay with that intensity for me for nine minutes
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  Speaker 3: and you know, a little bit of communication and some
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  Speaker 3: talk and you know, we just didn't dig in and
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  Speaker 3: match their intensity. That started the second quick enough for me.
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  Speaker 3: It was nine minutes those two goals pretty much an onslaught,
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  Speaker 3: and then after they scored the second goal, we had
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  Speaker 3: the TV timeout and things kind of started to change.
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  Speaker 6: A little bit for us.
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  Speaker 3: We got the power play, we got a couple Nelson
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  Speaker 3: chances in on the rush, and more zone time, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, and then they just chipped away at that
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  Speaker 3: one goal lead and ended up winning the Hawk.
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  Speaker 4: It's just I feel like, just quickly, you're most sorry.
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  Speaker 4: The change between the first and second period feels like
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  Speaker 4: the change between the first two series of the playoffs
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  Speaker 4: in this one. You feel like you got control, you
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  Speaker 4: got something that you believe in and you trust, and
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  Speaker 4: there's a level of want to and grit and execution
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  Speaker 4: that all looks good and then out of nowhere, it's
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  Speaker 4: almost like when you get hit with a little piece
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  Speaker 4: of adversity, the team, instead of responding in a strong way, crumbles,
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  Speaker 4: Like there's no other way for me to explain this
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  Speaker 4: other than you sort of peed down your leg for
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  Speaker 4: the last two periods and you had no response for
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  Speaker 4: I mean Vegas when they scored on the power play.
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  Speaker 4: They're down two now instead of three. It's not a
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  Speaker 4: big deal, buckle down, play decent hockey, execute properly, and
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  Speaker 4: you are still in prime position to win. But it
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  Speaker 4: felt just watching through the television screen and you were
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  Speaker 4: their mush. It felt when like when Vegas got that
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  Speaker 4: first goal, you just knew more were coming. And I
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  Speaker 4: don't get it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I Brett, I I think you laid it up perfectly.
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  Speaker 5: Did it completely collapse, No, But did it dissipate quickly?
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  Speaker 6: Yes? That's maybe that's it. It was a quick dissipation
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  Speaker 6: of that omph that oh that And again this goes
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  Speaker 6: back to you can't fool players. They know they played
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  Speaker 6: that second for that nine minutes, and I don't know
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  Speaker 6: why that is, but they played like they didn't believe
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  Speaker 6: in themselves.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what.
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  Speaker 5: They played like like they thought that maybe their three
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  Speaker 5: to one lead as fools.
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  Speaker 6: Gold.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm trying to simplify this the best I
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  Speaker 5: possibly can and put it in the layman's terms the
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  Speaker 5: best I possibly can. But to me, that's what it
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  Speaker 5: was like. It's like, you know where we're we're still
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  Speaker 5: up three, but we really shouldn't be, or you know
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  Speaker 5: that kind of thing. It's almost like you manifest your
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  Speaker 5: own collapse because something is permeating where.
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  Speaker 6: And maybe not with every and here's the thing, maybe
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  Speaker 6: not with every guy.
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  Speaker 5: But with enough guys that it causes the disjointed nature
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  Speaker 5: of their play and then they start compounding their own things.
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  Speaker 5: Now again that goes away and they get back to
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  Speaker 5: being themselves. But it's these little stretches, or in this case,
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  Speaker 5: a long stretch of nine minutes where that's the number
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  Speaker 5: one vibe and that's the number one thing, and that's
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  Speaker 5: the number one reason why you're now down three games
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  Speaker 5: to none. So that's as simple as I can put
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  Speaker 5: it out The real question is going to be, when
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  Speaker 5: it's all said and done, why did that happen?
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  Speaker 6: How did it happen with.
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  Speaker 5: Guys who have shown repeatedly a fantastic ability to respond,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and I go back last year they lost
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  Speaker 5: that Dallas series in the third period of Game seven
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  Speaker 5: with a two nothing lead, completely different scenario.
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  Speaker 6: Though, Brett, completely different.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it just kind of got got a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: And again the one off Sammy g skate, you know
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  Speaker 5: what I mean, right, And and so it was, it
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  Speaker 5: was a different scenarios to why you lost. But man,
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  Speaker 5: when even in that first round, Dallas a hell of
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  Speaker 5: a club, when they punched you in the mouth, you
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  Speaker 5: punched back, yep. And maybe it took a while, but
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  Speaker 5: it's it's you see what I'm saying. I and you
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  Speaker 5: got got a little bit. But the reason you lost
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  Speaker 5: is not nearly or not even remotely close to what
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  Speaker 5: you're doing now to lose games.
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  Speaker 4: Right, And that is to me what hurts the most
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  Speaker 4: this morning is I just did you know a week's
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  Speaker 4: where the show is about a month ago talking about
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  Speaker 4: you lost a series because mental Lee, the other team
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  Speaker 4: was stronger than you were. And that's the Nuggets. That's
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  Speaker 4: what happened in that Minnesota series in much of a
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  Speaker 4: similar fashion, especially after Anthony Edwards and to soon move
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  Speaker 4: and everybody else leaves the lineup. You look at it
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  Speaker 4: on paper, You're like, you're better. You are better talent
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  Speaker 4: wise than the team you are facing right now, and
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  Speaker 4: the reason why you aren't winning is because that the
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  Speaker 4: opposing team between the ears is stronger than you are.
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  Speaker 4: And I never would have thought I'm doing the same
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  Speaker 4: thing with this AVS team because it felt like they
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  Speaker 4: had all of that. It felt like they had the
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  Speaker 4: talent combined with the mental makeup to be able to
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  Speaker 4: overcome even a little bit of struggle or adversity or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: And in these last couple of games, you're looking for someone,
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  Speaker 4: anyone to give you a spark in set a tone,
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  Speaker 4: and it's to be honest, mos I think that maybe
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  Speaker 4: a couple of guys have done that. The issue is
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  Speaker 4: those guys are the ones that are playing on your
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  Speaker 4: third and fourth lines. I haven't seen it from your
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  Speaker 4: top players, and it's part of the beef that I
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  Speaker 4: have right now. When people are pointing to and I
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  Speaker 4: get it, I think that there is a heavy load
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  Speaker 4: of responsibility on everybody, including the coaching staff. But when
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  Speaker 4: I look at production from the guys that you are
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  Speaker 4: paying the most money, the guys that you are lying
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  Speaker 4: the most upon to do things for you in the
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  Speaker 4: biggest of games, you cannot succeed without Nathan McKinnon's scoring.
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  Speaker 4: You cannot succeed when Brock Nelson, your second line center,
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  Speaker 4: has three points and twelve playoff games, two of them
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  Speaker 4: being empty netters. You cannot succeed when Valdichushkin has four
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  Speaker 4: points throughout the course of this postseason. You can't succeed
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  Speaker 4: when those guys aren't playing up to a certain standard.
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  Speaker 4: It's just impossible. And when you look at the opposite side,
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  Speaker 4: Man Vegas has their guys producing. Howden has been dan
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  Speaker 4: all series long. Doorfiev has been dangerous all series long.
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  Speaker 4: Marner has made play after play after play. That's how
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  Speaker 4: you win. But when you can't get production from your
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  Speaker 4: top guys, what are you supposed to do here? What
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  Speaker 4: am I supposed to be evaluating in the trouble? And
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry that I'm rambling here most but it's just
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  Speaker 4: everything's coming together at once now. The trouble in all
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  Speaker 4: of this is the guys that you are relying upon
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  Speaker 4: the most are the ones that are under contract for years.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know what happens now. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: where you go. If you end up losing tomorrow and
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  Speaker 4: getting swept, or if you lose in five, or if
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  Speaker 4: you lose in six, it doesn't matter. None of it
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  Speaker 4: changes when you lose in this series. The only thing
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  Speaker 4: that can change is if you win four straight and
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  Speaker 4: make the Stanley Cup Final.
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  Speaker 7: That's it.
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  Speaker 4: But we're talking about a borderline impossibility.
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  Speaker 6: That's correct.
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  Speaker 4: Those guys need to produce skin.
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  Speaker 5: When you ramble, I gotta start writing stuff down because
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  Speaker 5: you're making some very good points. It's just that you
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  Speaker 5: move on to the g the hell I was gonna
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  Speaker 5: say about that thing, and then that thing, and then
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  Speaker 5: that thing, and if it was about want, if it
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  Speaker 5: was about because they haven't been lazy. They haven't, you know,
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  Speaker 5: just I don't want to say been as sleep. Although
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  Speaker 5: a couple of little scenarios they were in this series.
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  Speaker 5: So far, it's been poise at times, and I'm thinking
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  Speaker 5: to myself, well, I know how good this team is.
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  Speaker 5: I know with the belief system inside this team, I
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  Speaker 5: know how poised they are. Typically, what is the reason
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  Speaker 5: why is it happening? And I don't I don't know
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  Speaker 5: how to put it any more simply than this, And
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  Speaker 5: you may think I'm oversimplifying listeners, but this is the
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  Speaker 5: this is the scenario. This is how you lose not
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  Speaker 5: only games, but seria. You've got a three to two lead,
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  Speaker 5: and you've just shown, you know, on the especially that
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  Speaker 5: second goal, two bad plays in a row.
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  Speaker 6: You compounded your situation. It's three to two.
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  Speaker 5: Fine, Nelson still has a breakaway opportunity that rings off
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  Speaker 5: the crossbar. You still had a power play in there too,
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  Speaker 5: where you're you're all of a sudden, if you're back
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  Speaker 5: up for nothing, that time has been that tie, that
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  Speaker 5: tide has been stemmed, and you're back to playing your game.
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  Speaker 5: The fact that you don't score that goal, the fact
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  Speaker 5: that that power play does look like it like it did,
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  Speaker 5: even though I thought Heart made some really good saves
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  Speaker 5: and they had a couple of really nice difflections, and
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  Speaker 5: they did this and they did that. The fact is
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  Speaker 5: you didn't score, and because you didn't score, it's now
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  Speaker 5: still a three to two game. Manson gets blown up
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  Speaker 5: with the blue line. There's no call. He's pissed. Everybody's
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  Speaker 5: now just joined because his guy is deep in the
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  Speaker 5: zone and he's trying to get back into the play
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  Speaker 5: and he's looking, where the hell's my.
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  Speaker 6: Guy, and then boom. That's what cost you not only
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  Speaker 6: a game, even though.
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  Speaker 5: It's three three three three after two, it costs you
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  Speaker 5: that game and now it's cost you the series. That
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  Speaker 5: just just that stretch of time in one game. It's
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  Speaker 5: remarkable how that works in the Stanley Cup playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: Three zero three five oh four oh nine two five.
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  Speaker 4: I know we sound dowur here, but guess what. You
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  Speaker 4: on fourteenth in Market Tomorrow night is the Athlete to
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  Speaker 4: Stay Alive in the Western Conference Finals. Nate and Andy
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  Speaker 4: Rhinehouse for Game four.
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  Speaker 6: Brett.
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  Speaker 5: It's I know it's probably not funny to other people,
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  Speaker 5: but to me, I had something funny. I was just
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  Speaker 5: gonna say about Andy and about Nate Andy at the Rhinehouse.
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  Speaker 6: I can't read.
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  Speaker 5: I'm say, I'm gonna I'm gonna save it. I don't
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  Speaker 5: feel like what like, Man, there's a lot of bum
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  Speaker 5: there's a lot of bumus going around.
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  Speaker 4: Come on, make me laugh. I need I need a
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  Speaker 4: good chuckle.
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  Speaker 6: I it's gone out of my head now too.
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  Speaker 5: It's just been this has been a rough god since
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  Speaker 5: last not even Wednesday. You lost Game one, big deal,
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  Speaker 5: but release it's Friday afternoon. It's been a frigging bummer
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  Speaker 5: of a time.
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  Speaker 4: Well, a texture makes a good point, and I think
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  Speaker 4: that this sums it up pretty good. It's like, truly,
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  Speaker 4: he said, boys, this is the first day of the
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  Speaker 4: whole season where I think the As will not win
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  Speaker 4: the Cup.
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  Speaker 7: Like that's how I feel like.
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  Speaker 4: Even when they were down oh one in this series,
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  Speaker 4: I was like, they'll be fine, bounce back win game two.
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  Speaker 4: Even again, I'll mention this. If they had won last night,
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  Speaker 4: I'd be like, man, the car's back in the lineup.
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  Speaker 4: The team looked right. They took a three to nothing
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  Speaker 4: lead after the first period. Like, I think I'd still
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  Speaker 4: have that belief. But you can't have it now you're
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  Speaker 4: down O three. This hasn't happened in basically the history
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  Speaker 4: of the sport in this scenario where somebody's come back
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  Speaker 4: and won this way like crazy. So uh three all
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  Speaker 4: three Bible four H nine two five back after this?
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  Speaker 2: From your perspective, how'd you guys kind of end up
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  Speaker 2: in this spot here in this year? Is what changed
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  Speaker 2: from this series versus the last couple.
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  Speaker 6: No, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It's a good it's a good team we're playing. It's
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  Speaker 3: a really good team. Like for me, I guess the
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  Speaker 3: story even like because I can take parts of the
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  Speaker 3: game two, it's like getting out and sustaining or getting
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  Speaker 3: to our game and sustaining our game for a full
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  Speaker 3: sixty that's a gainst difficult competition. If you make a mistake,
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  Speaker 3: they capitalize on it, like they're very good at finishing
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  Speaker 3: off their chances. Poor start to game one cost us
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  Speaker 3: the game. Played a great game after that nine minutes
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  Speaker 3: stretch in the second period today cost us the game.
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  Speaker 7: No, that sound that that sound? Is everybody play that again?
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  Speaker 4: L I just do that on a loop?
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  Speaker 6: Please? Yeah? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: That sounds pretty much sums up everything you need to
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  Speaker 4: know about this series.
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  Speaker 2: So far the spot here in this series. What changed
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  Speaker 2: from this series versus the last couple?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah that now a lot and and Brett Brett stuff
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  Speaker 5: for a second. Yeah, yeah, it's it's exasperating because you
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  Speaker 5: thought you had it, and you know what, you do
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  Speaker 5: have a lot of it.
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  Speaker 6: But again, in this scenario, you're.
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  Speaker 5: Talking about a you know, a semi final is what
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  Speaker 5: this is the Western Conference Final. You can't even let
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  Speaker 5: up for a little bit. And if you do, you
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  Speaker 5: got to get lucky that you don't get scored on.
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  Speaker 5: You gotta get lucky that it doesn't cost you the
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  Speaker 5: game or the series. And you've let up enough or
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  Speaker 5: been disjointed enough that it's cost you every single time.
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  Speaker 5: You're not really getting away with anything at all. And
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  Speaker 5: part of it too, And this is where let me
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: be a little bit funny here. It's not even funny,
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: but it's damn truth. This is me as an emotional being.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: It's that team, it's those guys. Sure, it's this fan base.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: I'd like to make a I set in the stands
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: for a great portion of the game last night. I'd
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: like to make a proclamation about the people around me,
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: But I'm not gonna do it because it's just gonna
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: sound like sour grapes. But listening to that, listening to
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: the the PA guy shout at me, yeah, listening to
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: the blonde girl who's giving away prizes to Jimmy and
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: Susie and everybody else up and down the aisles screaming
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: over the speakers and penetrating my soul. It's it's these
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: guys you're losing to. It ain't Edmonton, right like mcpickoles
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: is finally getting his or something like that, you know
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: what I mean. It's it's these friggin dudes who were who, honestly,
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: until they made the coaching change, they were this close
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: to missing, for God's sake. But when you capture something, Brett,
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: when you capture something and you're feeling, even if you're
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: dumb at times and do stupid things, but you're feeling
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: that kind of invincibility is a club that can carry
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: you a long way. And that's what Vegas is writing
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: All right, can I get uh, let me allow me
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: to be a bit speculative, okay?
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: His I what.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: There's things that you hear and there's things that can
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: be translated through context. And I consider myself pretty good
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: at being able to read between the lines of what
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: somebody actually means without saying it. And this is what
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: I want to do. And there's a couple of texts
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: and I'll address these, one being this, you guys are
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: basically saying that Vegas was an unworthy opponent with a
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: temporary coach. Now Vegas is giving him the belt. I
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: remember when bretton Moser were like, oh, well, we beat
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: the wild so the next team isn't going to be
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: a match at all because we already beat the best team.
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: I just want to say on the front end of that.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: I did say before this series, before it started that
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: I think this goes a minimum of six games, probably seven. Yes,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: I thought the Abs would win this series. I did
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: not think this would be easy. I said it repeatedly
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: that this was going to be a tough series. Not
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: in my wildest dreams what I imagine you being down three
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: to start it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: One two.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: I talked about it this series, and the biggest issue
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: I have with it is that I think there is
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: a there's a difference between being by a team that
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: is equal or better than you talent wise, and that's
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: something that is much.
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: Easier to live with.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: And the comparison I made was last year with the
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Broncos when they played against the Bills in the postseason,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Bonix's rookie year, and they lost thirty one to seven
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: or whatever the score was. And I got on the
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: air the next day and I just shrugged. I was like, yeah,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: the Bills are better than you are. I don't have
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: an issue with this. You made the playoffs, it was
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: a good year. You obviously weren't talented enough to beat them.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: That's because you were ahead of schedule. Everybody knew it, Yes,
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: everybody did. This Avalanche team bred is right on schedule.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: And you know what, the playe pulled away from the
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: gate in Game three last night without them in that
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: second period.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: The issue that I have is you aren't losing this
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: series because Vegas is a better hockey team than you are,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: talent wise, skill wise, player wise. You are as hard
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: to say this when you're down oh three, but I
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: think everybody knows what I mean here. On paper, you
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: are as good, if not much better than what Vegas is.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Not to say Vegas isn't good, but that's how talented.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: I think the Avs are the reason you feel this
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: way is because you're getting beat upstairs, and a texta says, well,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: who do you mean by mentally soft or not mentally
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: tough enough? And this is where I try and read
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: between the lines. I try and translate into real terms
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: what somebody means to say without saying this.
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: Jared DOWNO two.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Is there a greater urgency to get kel mccarrback or
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: is the timeline kind of the timeline on him?
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Is there's urgency to get him back, like since he's
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: gotten hurt, like, you know, but it's it's gonna be
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Cale's decision on when he's coming back, you know, Like
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: it's he's doing all the work he can possibly do
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: to try to get back as fast as he can.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: And we get wordy he can play, then that's great,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: but like I don't make that decision for him. But yeah,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: there's urgency to make sure everyone is in and available
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: and everyone's playing as well as they possibly can.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: This is where I try and read between the lines
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: and mos This is just opinion, This is just me speculating,
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: but I consider myself pretty good at reading between lines
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: and things. Cale was cleared to play, Cale held himself out.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: That's my read on it. And in the sport of
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: hockey above all else, when you have a season end
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: and mos you see the laundry list, the old seventeen
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: hundred scroll of this player's getting a knee surgery, a
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: back surgery, a hip problem, a hand, a rib a whatever. Right,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: everybody's got something that they got to clean up after
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: the season because they're all playing through something. It's hard
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: for me not to imagine that, if I'm reading between
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: the lines correctly, that Cale's keeping himself out when he's
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: been medically cleared to play, that that doesn't have a
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: few people in that locker room looking at him saying, bro,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: get your ass on the ice.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: We're all hurting.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: It's all I'm saying. I don't know that to be
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: the case, but I'm just trying to read it. And
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: could that mess with some sort of internal camaraderie. I
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: don't know, maybe, but something seems off.
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: Well, Brett, that's it's interesting.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: I don't know either, but it's interesting you bring that
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: up because it's got to be something. Yeah, it's got
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: to be something because this is not this is not
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: the same team it's got. It's got to be something
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: because this is not this is not the team that
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: we even saw in the Minnesota series.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: Did Minnesota play them tough? Yeah? Did Minnesota punch him
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: in the mouth a couple of times? Sure? Yeah? And
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: what do they do?
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Did Minnesota come back from a three to zero deficit
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: and then you went on to win the game anyway? Yeah?
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: Correct.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: It so something that some sort of dynamic shifted and
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: changed in the midst of all this. And I think
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: for part of the fan base two is this and
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: maybe even for me. Let's say you're down three games
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: to none right now, but you've been playing your.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: Butts off and you will lost three.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: Overtime games, let's say, okay, and one of them in
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: double overtime. That's a whole lot different than they scored
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: a power play goal when you're up three nothing. They
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: scored a power play goal and somehow it caused you
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: to just mentally lose it for about nine minutes. You know,
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: there's a difference in how. It's the how you're losing
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: that is the concern.
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: I go back to the Nuggets too, and you were
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: so right about that. It's not that they lost in
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: Minnesota in five games, but it's how they lost. It's
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: especially it's especially after that game too, and you get
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: you lose, you get called out, and there's nothing, there's
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: there's nothing, you know what I mean. And that's where
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: you're going, Okay, that that there's there's deeper issues here.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: And with the said Sevalanche team, I don't think the
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: issues are incredibly deep. But I'm trying to tell you.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: I've said it before, I mean to say that thousand
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: times again in the Stanley Cup Playoffs, Western Conference Final.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: Your issues don't have to be deep, they don't have
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: to continue on for for even an entire period. But
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: if you have issues for even this long, a handful
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: of minutes, and it costs you, that is the difference
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: between everything. And you add those up enough, you find
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: yourselves in the scenario you're at right now.
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: Well, I'll tell you a difference.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: So Bennar was called out by a lot of people saying, hey,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: you can't say that about one of your top players.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, you saw the reaction motion, and to me,
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: it's like, what do you mean? Like, Here's what's funny
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: is coaches get criticized if they don't try and motivate
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: or call out nonsense when they see it, and then
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: they get criticized when they do. And it's kind of
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: dan if you do, dan if you don't, because we
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: all know what the real issue is. If you don't win,
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: everything looks wrong. For example, you can have a coach
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: like Nathaniel Hackett who is mister easy, go lucky whatever, happy,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: smiling all the time, don't get after your players, don't
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: yell at players, player friendly guy, and if your team sucks,
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: then he's too soft. And then you can have Fangio
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: and Fangio walks in and he's a hard ass and
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: he is a dictator and a tyrant and he runs
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: the team his way and it's his way or the highway. Well,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: that's too hard. You can't do that. It's all about
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: if you win or not. Because if either of those
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: guys won, then their coaching style is great and there's
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: no problem. But I guess I bring up the Kale
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: comments for this.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Leon here's here. Here you had Bill Belichick, who's won
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: a lot. Sure, but I mean peak, Pete Carroll won
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: a Super Bowl, and they couldn't be They couldn't be
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: different human beings, right and styles.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: And I bring up the Kale thing to say this
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: when Nathan McKinnon takes a slapshot the off the outside
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: of the knee and can barely even put me weight
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: on it, and Wedgwood says this after the game.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously, h you know, I might have to kill him,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: the gun him off the ice.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: So just kind of the person he is in the
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: competitor is so, you know, obviously proves that every time
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: he's on the ice he wants to win on anybody.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: And just another example.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: It's just one of those things most when you hear
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: those things side by side, it just it makes me
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: cock an eyebrow about what's actually going on here. And
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to oversimplify things, but I
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: think it is kind of this easy. We can talk
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: about coaching and making adjustments and what you can do
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: on the power playing to make that more dangerous, or
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: what you got to do to say to motivate a
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: team or whatever. The bottom line is, if your top
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: players don't play to the level of top players, it's
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: really really hard to win, really hard.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: And not only that, but body let's look at body
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: language real quick, all right. You you laid it out
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: where Vegas is not the more talented team.
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: Not on paper, they're not.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: They're not better at the middle or I'm better than
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Blue one, and that you're right about that. But when
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: you talk about body language and you talk about something
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: that's that's esoteric, you can't it's intangible. Doesn't it feel
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: like they just they're playing with house money right now.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: They're playing like, I want to say, loosey goosey, but
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: they but they they.
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: Just have this yeah man, this inner vibe. Man, we
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: you know we can do.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: It's like and they've been building on that since since
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: the coaching change. I think really the last week of
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: the regular season, I mean, they played better hockey, but
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: as the playoffs have gone on, they've only gotten strong
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: longer the Vegas Golden Knight. So you it's it's gone
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: like this, it's it's tilted.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: And because they're capitalizing, and I'll give them a lot
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: of credit. I said this before the series began. What
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: they do incredibly well is they capitalize on your mistakes.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: They capitalize on that four and a half nine minutes
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: of where you you just feel disconnected.
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: As a club. They capitalize on that and they make
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: you pay. That's it. It doesn't need to be any
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: deeper than that. We don't need to, you know.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: To try to turn over every rock and find an
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: excuse or a situation that doesn't exist. I mean, Aukham's Razor, Man,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: it's right there in front of you.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Well, let's just do a simple exercise. Has has I'm
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: just gonna name a player. Most you tell me yes
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: or no. Has the player played to the expected level
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: that you thought you'd get?
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: Okay?
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: Nathan McKinnon, Uh, production wise in this series?
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: No, not product I mean you're talking about I mean
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: they're playing hard, but it's production you're worried about.
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: Right, Yes, Okay, then no, Nature's no like.
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: No Landy, yeah, Rock. No, that's Shushkin.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: Although I thought luck he like, he made some really
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: good plays last night, Brett, he did, but Lucky but
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: just truly keep going. But he's but he's again, he
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: missed time. He's not himself.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: Go ahead, that Ushkin.
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: No Cadrin.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: No, Nick Wah, I think Nick's been fine.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: O'Connor, Yeah, Parker Kelly, Oh yeah, Jack Drury.
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: I'm better than better than okay, yep, Ross Colton, I
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: mean better than himself.
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Ross call I.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: Think I think that I think that the two game
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: sitting of Ross Colton did wonders for him. He's he's
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: playing his butt off, and I'm again, I look around
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: these guys, so hang on, hang on hand, go ahead,
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: go ahead, Yeah, go ahead.
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: I just went through the entire forward group.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: You said yes is two guys who are all in
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: the bottom six essentially, with a couple exceptions. That's who
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: you said yes to. Didn't say yes to your top dogs.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: That's a problem to go to the blue line tail.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: I guess it's an incomplete He's barely played in the series.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Malenski No, Kulac.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's been fine.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: Burns he said he's had some struggle bust moments at
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: times in the penalties I.
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: Think are difficult. Manson Ah, he was out, of course
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: with injury this postseason.
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: I'm just talking about in the series. In the series, Oh, in.
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: This series, I think he's been I think he's been okay.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: Thaves, Yeah, Taser doesn't look like you like himself to
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: meet one thousand either.
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: And then Weggie.
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: Average it's not good enough?
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Like that is that is too many guys that have
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: not played to the standard that you need. And it's
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: too many of the guys that you consider the the
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: main factors to winning. Depth is an amazing thing to have,
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: and you need it to win a cup, but it
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: can't be the best asset on your team is the depth.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: And I think that's where you're drawing the main conclusion.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Why are you down three? Because your top guys aren't
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: playing like top guys. And so we'll get back to this.
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: In a bit.
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Game three of the Eastern Conference Final between Montreal and
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Carolina can be heard right here on at the Dude
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Sports Radio, not each five pregame, five point thirty.
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: Puck drop shortly after six pm.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Oh by the way, next, all right, so a little
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: break here from the hockey stuff, just for a couple
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: of minutes. Oh, by the way, stories around sports in
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: the world. We feel like you should be aware of.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: And I'll start here. Did you have you.
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: Should be aware of? You know what you should be
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: you know what you should be aware of?
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: What's that?
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I don't know. These are these
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: are difficult days, bro. I've been through you know, I've
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: been through a million of these, Dude. Every Avalanche series
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: loss kills me. This one's hitting different because they they
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: were there and now they're not there.
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: It's just crazy. Go ahead.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: It was a terrible insult. By the way, you know
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: what you should be aware of. I don't know, bro,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: I'm just sad that's what you said.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: Anyway.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, did you see that there were
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: the quote enhanced games over the weekend, like the.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: They were here in They're here in Vegas.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: Oh they were so yeah, this is this is your
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: this is your dream, this is the Bret Kane dream.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: It's like the Olympics with steroid needles sticking out of
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: people's butts.
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: So here's the data.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Ninety one percent of the athletes used testosterone in these games,
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: seventy nine percent used hgh in, sixty two percent use
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: stimulants like adderall in, MODAFINIL. I don't know what that is,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: modo final. Anyway, they're just jacked.
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: To the gills.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: But here's my thought. After those games took place and
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: all the events that they had, they did, deadlifting, sprinting,
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: all the different things, right, only one quote world.
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: Record was set.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: It's not going to be recognized but one out of
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: all these games, which makes me think, are people in
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: the Olympics juicing If you tell me that these things
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: are amazing? Sports enhancers and not an only one record
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: was broken. The hell's going on in the Olympics.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: You're you're you're you're missing the point here entirely, bro
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, you're completely missing the point. If if Steve Nelson,
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: let me look at Nelly, if he put his flute
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: down for for two days and decided, you know what,
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: I want to be a weightlifter and I'm gonna get
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: on d ball and just jacked himself up for jacked
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: himself up for two years, Steve Nelson is never gonna
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: set a world record in weightlifting or anything like that.
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  Speaker 6: It's just not gonna happen, Okay, But it does what
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: it does.
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  Speaker 5: But what what it does do, Brett is it makes
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: the very best athletes even better. Barry Bonds was already
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: an unbelievably awesome hitter.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Most the Mountain from Game of Thrones who competed in
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: these games is not Steve Nelson. He's the belief in
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: the mountain.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, understood, He's not playing a yeah, but he's also
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: like fifty That guy has to be, doesn't he.
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: I suppose?
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: Uh oh.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: By the way, the all NBA teams were released over
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: the weekend, No surprise that Nikola Jokic is a first
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: team All NBA player. He joined Shay Victor, women, Yama Luka,
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: and Kate Cunningham. What is interesting is Jamal Murray did
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: make third Team, which, in addition to an All Star season,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: he's now an All NBA type player. All of that
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: doesn't matter because they got bounced in five games. But
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: still we're all waiting for years for somebody to get
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: some sort of accolade. Along with Jokichen, Jamal made Thirdeam
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: All NBA.
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: Good good for he was an All Star this year. Yeah,
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: so good for him. It's all good.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Another one here. Oh, by the way, Justin Simmons, who
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: is uh you know, retired as a Bronco recently now
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: done with the game of football, but he has picked
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: up the game of golf motion He's only been playing
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: for a couple of years. Well, I just saw that
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: that jerk had a hole in one over the weekend.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: That guy's Those guys pissed me off. Yeah, I'm sorry, exactly.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: Those guys really piss And I mean, let me say
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: this about Justin Simmons. He's an awesome dude, love him,
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: but his fortune and my lack of fortune in that regard.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: Pisses me off, Like, oh, I was just an All
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Pro safety for ten years in the league, picking off
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: passes all the time, making all a bunch of money.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: I'm a good looking guy who's a great leader of
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: a team and all around likable human being, and I
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: get hold on ones when it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: Just picks up the game.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: It's like it's just because, Look, I've played the game
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: for a long time. I've come so close. I won
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: two watches for being this close to a hole of one.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: I've had a lip out. I almost won a red
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: Mercedes Benz one time in a tournament. That would have
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: been awesome. Yeah, I've never had one, Brett No, And
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: to this day, I just I've seen like four in
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: my life. I've played with people like I've seen like four,
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: never had one.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: Always the bridesmaid. Uh did you happen to see? Bobby
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Marx projected what Peyton Watson will make on the open
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: market this year as a restricted free agent.
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: What would you guess? What was the contract?
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: It's he said it's a four year deal for what
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: ninety is his projection.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: So.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: Maybe we're off the hooked then a little bit, which
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: is thought there's no doubt somebody's going to overpay for potential.
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: Which would be doable.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: Like, yes, you'd have to move different people around and
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: you'd have to offload some contracts, but that would be
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: doable if that's what he gets on the open market,
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: and if it's any sort of like positive indicator. His
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: projection for Christian Brown was thirty million a year. He
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: only got twenty five, so maybe it could be a
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: little south of that too. I have no idea, but okay,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: I think that Peyton Watson is an immensely important part
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: to the future of that team because he's young, with
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: high potential on offense and already a really good defender
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: who's athletic, which you need speed and athleticism.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: Uh did you, Oh, by the way, did you see
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: Johnny Manzel beat up Bob Menry this weekend?
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: What was that? What are we doing here? Is this
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: just the new era of fighting? Is that we just
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: take names that you recognize who can't really fight and
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: then they just hunch each other or what.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: It doesn't do any It doesn't do anything for.
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: Me whatsoever at all. I don't watch that crap, but
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: I did see that he beat him up?
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Is this the failed athletes Dancing with the Stars?
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: Is that what it is?
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: You know when celebrities when their flame burns out on
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: their their celebrity, they go to Dancing with the Stars
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: and it's like, hey, you guys remember Chachi, don't you
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Well he's gonna be on Dancing with the Stars this year.
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: Tune in.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Is he and Henry Winkler battle it out for the
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: like you know what I mean? Like, that's that's what celebrities.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: You washed up athletes, I guess, go all, go fight
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: rage a, you know what I mean?
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Pretty much? I got another one. Oh by the way,
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: did you watch the end of the Indy five hundred yesterday?
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: I did? Yeah?
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean I saw I saw the highlight, right.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: You were watching it live, but you probably saw Felix
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: rosing fists, you know, go around David Malucas there at
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: the very ende to that point zero two, right, I
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: mean yeah, Can you imagine being that red car though?
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, what if you're David Malucas and you the
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: problem is the guy's drafting on you, right, You're trying
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: to break it as much as possible. Would you rather
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: be the leader on that last lap? Or would you
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: rather be in second place, I mean the leader because
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: he did everything he could.
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: I don't I don't think he could do anything. There's
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: nothing he could do.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't get like mo as you know me.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: I don't understand cars and I don't understand racing. But
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: it was pretty incredible finish. It was a fun watch.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, you win my point zero two seconds? Pretty crazy?
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Just quickly here. Oh, by the way, Florida has passed
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: a law that is called the Teddy Bridgewater Act. If
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: you remember, Teddy Bridgewater was the coach of a high
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: school team in Florida and got fired and suspended because.
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: He would bring his players food.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: He would buy them ubers to get to and from
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: practice if they didn't have a ride, and that was
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: not allowed for impermissible benefits even at the high school level.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: And everybody kind of thought, Bro, he's getting these kids transportation,
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: physical therapy and rehab on his own dime. That's not
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: something you should punish, that's something that should be celebrated. Well,
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: it turns out they're allowed to do that now, So
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: you can help players with expenses such as food, transportation,
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: and physical therapy. As a head coach, if you want to.
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: So that's a huge rack.
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: He's taking his drub back.
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: I think he's got a job in the NFL, still
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: doesn't he.
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you're right, he went back to the NFL.
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: You're right.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: Uh, Nelly got went on the way up.
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: Oh, by the way, after the show wraps up today,
• 43:12
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna quit so I can go spend the next
• 43:14
  Speaker 8: three years lifting weights just to prove you wrong.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: Motion.
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: I'm about to start breaking the world records. But no, Oh,
• 43:20
  Speaker 8: by the way, did you guys ever play the board
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: game Operation growing up?
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: I did, yes, So I don't know if you saw it.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, dude, it was fun. It was fun for
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: like you take two bones that shit. Yeah, it's like
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: hungry hunk. Yeah, it's like hungry hungry hippos. It's fun
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: for about twenty seconds. You go then you're like this sucks.
• 43:40
  Speaker 8: Well, then maybe you should enter this giveaway. See if
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: you can get a better version of the board game.
• 43:46
  Speaker 8: Dylan Brooks has teamed up with Underdog Sports to create
• 43:50
  Speaker 8: a board game called Unethical Hoops and it looks like Operation,
• 43:53
  Speaker 8: except the dude on the table is Sga dribbling a
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: basketball and all the different holes on the board are
• 43:59
  Speaker 8: different parts of SG body and the goal is you
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: have to remove the basketball from SGA without setting off
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: the whistle. And the game is literally called Unethical Hoops.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: This look I know you guys might think yourself, this
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: looks like AI.
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: It's not.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: This is a real thing that Dylan Brooks made.
• 44:15
  Speaker 8: This is a real board game. And you can go
• 44:17
  Speaker 8: to Underdog's website and enter and they're gonna give away
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: one hundred actual copies of this board game.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: So each one of these holes that you got to
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: take the basketball out without hitting the side most Here's
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: what it says at the I'm going from the top
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: to the bottom head snap, shoulder bump, hook and cook,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: push off, lean in, rip through, head snap, don't reach,
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: phantom contact and leg kick.
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm not a big Dylan Brooks guy me either,
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: but I love him. I love him for this, Yeah,
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: I do. I love him for this. We've got to Okay,
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: what's the website again, Nelly.
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: It's it's Underdog, the under the I believe there are
• 44:57
  Speaker 8: sports betting outlet, I yeah, and then or you can
• 45:01
  Speaker 8: just go to Unethical hoops dot com.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna go to Unethical hoops dot com and
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna try to win because when I win one
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: of these, we're gonna bring it into the studio where
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: we're gonna play it live.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: I would love to do that. That'd be awesome. That
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: would be awesome. So yeah, shout out to Dylan Brooks.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: That's really funny.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: Uh oh.
• 45:25
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• 45:34
  Speaker 4: Get back to the app.
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: One more hour to Yeah, one more hour to kind
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: of kind of put Game three at.
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: The at the backside of things. I'm gonna get some
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: better light here and let's roll on.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: I'm I want to do something a little different when
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: we come back. This has been doom and gloom, and
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: rightfully so, because the Avs have crushed our hopes and dreams.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: But allow me just for a second to imagine the impossible,
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: and we'll get to it next.