Latest / I Am All In with Scott Patterson / Luke and Jess. Scott and Milo. Reunited and it Feels So Good
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I am all in. I want to kiss you. I
- 0:17Speaker 1: am all in with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey, everybody, listen,
- 0:23Speaker 1: we have a very special guest. Uh, My litt vent
- 0:26Speaker 1: Amelia is going to join us. My good buddy for
- 0:28Speaker 1: over twenty years. Uh. He's one of the most decorated
- 0:32Speaker 1: and well deserving of those awards and nominations actors working
- 0:38Speaker 1: in the business today. Uh. He's a personal friend of mine. Uh.
- 0:42Speaker 1: He's a terrific, terrific guy, terrific actor. Uh. He's also
- 0:48Speaker 1: done some of the most interesting work right now. He's
- 0:50Speaker 1: Jack Pearson on uh This is Us the smash Hit
- 0:54Speaker 1: on NBC. But he's also doing a podcast called Strawberry Spring,
- 0:58Speaker 1: which is on I Heart. Uh. It's a Stephen King
- 1:02Speaker 1: uh kind of a murder mysteries doing Garrett Hudland and
- 1:06Speaker 1: Sydney Sweeney The Wonderful Sydney Sweeney and others. And so
- 1:11Speaker 1: he's he's doing that podcast and I think they've they've
- 1:14Speaker 1: done a couple of episodes, eight episodes or something, and
- 1:17Speaker 1: they're in the can and they're they're downloadable on Wednesdays
- 1:20Speaker 1: on my Heart. Uh. But we're gonna talk to Milo
- 1:23Speaker 1: and uh I'm very excited. Um, any chance to spend
- 1:27Speaker 1: some time with Milo as time well spent and uh
- 1:30Speaker 1: so we're we're going to talk to Milo and uh
- 1:34Speaker 1: after these messages. Yeah, Mr Milo, there he is. What's
- 1:43Speaker 1: up brother? How you doing? Man? How are you doing? Guy?
- 1:46Speaker 1: I'm great, dude, great to see you must be so busy.
- 1:51Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the time to do this, absolutely, man,
- 1:55Speaker 1: Really appreciate it, really really appreciate how you doing. What's
- 1:58Speaker 1: going on? You know, we we sold the house, we
- 2:02Speaker 1: moved close to the beach, and the Nick's back in
- 2:05Speaker 1: school and you know we're just we're just living our lives. Dude.
- 2:11Speaker 1: That's great. Anything happened in your life? Uh lately taking
- 2:18Speaker 1: over the entertainment business one or two things, you know.
- 2:22Speaker 1: You know me, I'm married to work. Um now things
- 2:25Speaker 1: things are, things are well, you know, plugging away six
- 2:28Speaker 1: season of the show. Um and uh they're a little
- 2:33Speaker 1: traveling over the break on the hiatus. Decided not to
- 2:36Speaker 1: work and try and spend some time with people. You know,
- 2:39Speaker 1: what I found was there were a lot of people,
- 2:41Speaker 1: of course, coming out of what last year was that
- 2:45Speaker 1: I think needed to be reminded that that the world
- 2:49Speaker 1: will open back up, things will level, things will right,
- 2:53Speaker 1: And I kind of took it upon myself to just
- 2:55Speaker 1: travel around and see a few friends best I could
- 2:58Speaker 1: as safely as I could, knowing that maybe they needed
- 3:01Speaker 1: to see someone outside of their immediate world. So that's
- 3:04Speaker 1: what I did. And now I'm back in the grind
- 3:06Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, work, traffic, all the all the like,
- 3:09Speaker 1: wearing makeup things like that. Yeah, man, you're keeping it real,
- 3:14Speaker 1: I see on your social Yeah, you'll go out and
- 3:18Speaker 1: you'll and you'll travel around. Uh, and you'll you'll go
- 3:22Speaker 1: great distances. I mean you'll just drive, drive, drive, You'll
- 3:25Speaker 1: visit the Grand and you'll visit you'll take that what
- 3:27Speaker 1: are you take an airstream with you and just yeah. Yeah.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Last last year I picked up my first air stream
- 3:33Speaker 1: and realized it wasn't quite as big enough as big
- 3:35Speaker 1: as what I'd like to have, So I sold that
- 3:38Speaker 1: got a second one that was bigger. Um. But yeah,
- 3:42Speaker 1: you know I again, you know, I mean, you know me.
- 3:45Speaker 1: It's like, I think as long as we've known each other,
- 3:47Speaker 1: it's like we've always just talked about being like kind
- 3:49Speaker 1: of out in the world and me being out in
- 3:50Speaker 1: the world, and you know, once the kind of globe
- 3:55Speaker 1: slowed down, we had to reassess what getting out of
- 3:58Speaker 1: our own houses. And um, I found a lot of
- 4:02Speaker 1: comfort taking a trailer, taking an airstream and actually like
- 4:06Speaker 1: getting around and seeing what's next door, seeing kind of
- 4:09Speaker 1: my neighbors. I mean, when I was a kid, I
- 4:12Speaker 1: used to take trips all the time. I mean we'd
- 4:15Speaker 1: go to Arizona, we'd go to Oregon, we'd go to Utah.
- 4:19Speaker 1: We kind of just go maybe as far as Colorado,
- 4:22Speaker 1: but we take these family trips and and uh, I
- 4:26Speaker 1: just really enjoy it. I definitely enjoy it. So and yeah,
- 4:29Speaker 1: and then then eventually I post. I think I haven't
- 4:31Speaker 1: posted anything on the social media and probably like well
- 4:35Speaker 1: on Instagram, particularly probably like five or six months, which
- 4:38Speaker 1: means I've probably got I don't know, maybe like a
- 4:40Speaker 1: hundred photos ready to go up or something like that
- 4:43Speaker 1: in the last six months. People will will we'll stop
- 4:47Speaker 1: what they're doing and check it out for sure. Um yeah, maybe,
- 4:52Speaker 1: but yeah, what a wonderful thing it is to travel,
- 4:54Speaker 1: just to get out there, and especially in this business
- 4:57Speaker 1: when you're when when it's so and you know I
- 5:01Speaker 1: know how it is too, it's very it can get
- 5:03Speaker 1: a little taxing on your system and you need to
- 5:06Speaker 1: just go recharge and you need so I get out
- 5:09Speaker 1: and you know, my big thing is skiing and I
- 5:13Speaker 1: and even before I got the show, I throw stuff
- 5:17Speaker 1: in my truck and drive to Utah. I'd be a
- 5:20Speaker 1: snowstorm chaser and go chase this the powder and just
- 5:23Speaker 1: do that for the winter as I could. I can't
- 5:27Speaker 1: do it anymore because you have a family, but still
- 5:29Speaker 1: we get out there. But yeah, the need to get
- 5:31Speaker 1: out there and travel is is. Yeah, it's a wonderful no. Now, now,
- 5:34Speaker 1: now you just bring roommates. That's how it is. You
- 5:38Speaker 1: need to bring your roommates. You know. It's funny. It's
- 5:42Speaker 1: like when you're talking about when you're talking about like recharging,
- 5:46Speaker 1: you know you you and I always worked the same,
- 5:50Speaker 1: you know. I remember I remember being on set and
- 5:53Speaker 1: so many moments like just having to like work worksop
- 5:58Speaker 1: those lines and workshop those scenes. And you know, I
- 6:00Speaker 1: was always grateful to do that with you because that's
- 6:03Speaker 1: also your process. Um. But sometimes that just gets you
- 6:08Speaker 1: get so focused on it. That's really the only thing
- 6:10Speaker 1: you're thinking about, and you you never understand or I
- 6:14Speaker 1: would never understand that I would just be kind of
- 6:16Speaker 1: drawing from the well, I'd be pulling and pulling and
- 6:19Speaker 1: pulling and like using all that kind of emotional currency
- 6:23Speaker 1: or or spiritual currency or just kind of you know
- 6:26Speaker 1: what we have to do as artists using that. At
- 6:30Speaker 1: a certain point, you really need to fill that back up.
- 6:34Speaker 1: And for me, it's always people that that I'm close to,
- 6:38Speaker 1: you know, having a friend that I know I'm gonna
- 6:40Speaker 1: know for the rest of my life, and being able
- 6:42Speaker 1: to spend time that doesn't feel like it's work, you know,
- 6:48Speaker 1: and travel and also got seeing different sites and all
- 6:50Speaker 1: that and seeing familiar sights too. Yeah, just just re
- 6:54Speaker 1: refilling that. Well. It is a very demanding mean anything is,
- 7:01Speaker 1: but I mean acting a very demanding job. Yeah, because
- 7:05Speaker 1: it's not just what you're doing. It's not what you're
- 7:09Speaker 1: doing in front of the camera. It's how you're interacting
- 7:12Speaker 1: with everybody else on the set. And you do that
- 7:16Speaker 1: particularly well because I think it's just your sort of
- 7:19Speaker 1: a naturally outgoing, uh friendly person, naturally outgoing, outgoing, naturally
- 7:25Speaker 1: outgoing introvert. No, there isn't introvert in you. There is
- 7:29Speaker 1: there is a side of you that's very introverted. But
- 7:31Speaker 1: it doesn't it you know, it doesn't make you um,
- 7:36Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't make you block off the world
- 7:39Speaker 1: or block off people. I mean you're still open to
- 7:42Speaker 1: people while you're working. So I always I was, I
- 7:44Speaker 1: was always uh very impressed by that fact. Um, how
- 7:49Speaker 1: did we meet? What do you remember the first time
- 7:51Speaker 1: we met? Oh man, I don't remember the first moment,
- 7:55Speaker 1: I think I very much just remember that first day
- 7:58Speaker 1: of filming it and that first day of filming is
- 8:02Speaker 1: when you, Luke and Jess were at odds. He was
- 8:07Speaker 1: kind of forced to have to go to school, and
- 8:09Speaker 1: we're doing that big walk and talk right before you
- 8:11Speaker 1: pushed me in the lake. That was the first thing
- 8:13Speaker 1: we did together. I think it was or no, no, no,
- 8:17Speaker 1: you know what it was. I think the first thing
- 8:19Speaker 1: we did together was getting off the bus. I think
- 8:22Speaker 1: we actually they gave us a moment one which was
- 8:25Speaker 1: a simple scene, barely anything spoken. But I think that
- 8:29Speaker 1: was like the first like real working moment. I think
- 8:32Speaker 1: we met each other in passing when I got the job,
- 8:36Speaker 1: because wait, did we do table reads? Yes? We did
- 8:39Speaker 1: early on we did for a couple of seasons. Yeah.
- 8:42Speaker 1: Then I think we probably met maybe at a table
- 8:45Speaker 1: reader or shortly before. I really can't remember. What I
- 8:47Speaker 1: remember is just diving right in, like like no pleasant trees, no,
- 8:51Speaker 1: no bullsh just literally like this is Scott, this is mine,
- 8:54Speaker 1: Like this is how we're gonna, you know, and to
- 8:58Speaker 1: what was always funny to me us dude, You and
- 9:01Speaker 1: I were always like really cool and engaged and had
- 9:03Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. But of course we're playing
- 9:07Speaker 1: these characters that you know, Jess was. He was a
- 9:10Speaker 1: punk kid who didn't want to hear it from anybody.
- 9:14Speaker 1: And you know, Luke was losing his mind with this
- 9:16Speaker 1: kid that he got saddled with from his sister, and
- 9:20Speaker 1: and you know, who you and I were could not
- 9:24Speaker 1: have been more opposite than who Jess and Luke were.
- 9:27Speaker 1: But also where Jess and Luke kind of got to,
- 9:30Speaker 1: I think ultimately was closer to who you and I
- 9:34Speaker 1: were in terms of like like relationship and whatnot, you know,
- 9:37Speaker 1: because I think I think, you know, Jess grew up,
- 9:40Speaker 1: just learned some lessons, and Luke had been through some
- 9:43Speaker 1: stuff and it's all fascinating. It's all fascinating. I remember
- 9:47Speaker 1: I remember shooting that the Lake push scene, I remember
- 9:49Speaker 1: the walking talk was like thirty we did like thirty takes,
- 9:52Speaker 1: didn't we Yeah, we did, but the Lake Push was
- 9:55Speaker 1: one that was that was the first one, and then
- 9:58Speaker 1: we did get a safety just in case. I think
- 10:01Speaker 1: we did it twice. Yeah, because I remember I had
- 10:05Speaker 1: to I had to change. I had three different changes.
- 10:09Speaker 1: Random Maybean was there. I had a blanket to like
- 10:12Speaker 1: put around me just to change really quick on the
- 10:14Speaker 1: on the go instead of going all the way back
- 10:15Speaker 1: toward trailers on the other side of the last Samurai set,
- 10:20Speaker 1: you know, it was like, yeah, Tom Cruise was over there. Yeah.
- 10:25Speaker 1: There were so many things that would come through that
- 10:26Speaker 1: lit It was so fun to watch too. Like you
- 10:29Speaker 1: you I remember being on that lot and seeing like
- 10:33Speaker 1: George Clooney and Anthony Edwards playing basketball and then you
- 10:38Speaker 1: knew Tom Cruise was shooting a movie. And then you'd
- 10:41Speaker 1: walk past the Friends set to get from our stages
- 10:44Speaker 1: and trailers to get to the back lot where the
- 10:46Speaker 1: gazebo was, and you just like see them and see
- 10:49Speaker 1: the cars, and you you talked to the security guys
- 10:52Speaker 1: Ramos because you you know, you just you see these
- 10:54Speaker 1: people every day, so you just start talking to we
- 10:56Speaker 1: know their names and everything. And um, I mean would
- 10:59Speaker 1: a magic time, And then thinking to myself as a
- 11:02Speaker 1: young actor, Wow, I've got a spot. I've got I've
- 11:07Speaker 1: got a concrete slab that has my name on it
- 11:10Speaker 1: on the Warner Brothers Film Studio lot. Wow, I'm twenty
- 11:16Speaker 1: four years old. This is unbelievable. It was cool for
- 11:21Speaker 1: me too. I was in my early forties and it
- 11:23Speaker 1: was it was like, I've I've got a parking spot
- 11:25Speaker 1: over here with my name on that. That was that
- 11:28Speaker 1: was awesome. It's so cool. Uh yeah. I remember when
- 11:32Speaker 1: they were doing Oceans eleven or twelve or thirteen, whichever
- 11:36Speaker 1: one it was, and they were right across the street
- 11:40Speaker 1: from my It's like Brad Pitt and Cluney pulled up
- 11:43Speaker 1: on their motorcycles and then al Pacino got dropped off
- 11:46Speaker 1: his trailer. Al Pacino's trailer was was catty corner from
- 11:50Speaker 1: my trailer, and I went over there. I actually went
- 11:54Speaker 1: over there and tried to meet him. Yeah, And the
- 11:57Speaker 1: p A was like, how did it go? Not well?
- 12:00Speaker 1: Did not go well? It didn't go well. She looked
- 12:03Speaker 1: at me like, get out of here, you jerk. What
- 12:05Speaker 1: are you doing. You're not gonna meet him. He's in
- 12:07Speaker 1: his trail to go away, and I'm like, come on,
- 12:09Speaker 1: I just I just want to I just want to, like,
- 12:11Speaker 1: you know, I gotta meet the guy. You're like, but
- 12:13Speaker 1: that's but that's my trailer, Like I said, I'm not
- 12:17Speaker 1: some crazy guy on the lot. I'm just you know,
- 12:20Speaker 1: that's my trail over there. I'm doing a TV series.
- 12:22Speaker 1: I just want to meet the guy. She goes, if
- 12:24Speaker 1: you don't get out of here, I want to call
- 12:26Speaker 1: security to get out. Oh man, it's so funny. He's
- 12:29Speaker 1: he's such a he's such a lovely man, this warm guy.
- 12:31Speaker 1: I did. I did a bunch of table reads on
- 12:35Speaker 1: this script that he really wanted to do about Salvador
- 12:38Speaker 1: Dolly and I remember I did one and it was
- 12:42Speaker 1: it was out and uh Kelsey Grammer and um Rita
- 12:46Speaker 1: Wilson and a handful assemble. Blair was there and say,
- 12:50Speaker 1: handful of actors and we just kind of read the
- 12:52Speaker 1: script and workshop dude, and you know, he just kind
- 12:56Speaker 1: of do that. Then you forget about it, and then
- 12:58Speaker 1: like a month later the like, hey my, look al
- 13:01Speaker 1: wants you to do it again, and I go okay,
- 13:04Speaker 1: And then like two months later, hey my, I wants
- 13:06Speaker 1: to bring you in to do this again. I'm like, wait,
- 13:08Speaker 1: why is Al calling me? And really that's crazy, But
- 13:12Speaker 1: just like he's just one of those guys that dies
- 13:15Speaker 1: completely into his his r and his work. I remember,
- 13:17Speaker 1: like I got tried to do his house to watch
- 13:20Speaker 1: solomn A. He'd he done a recorded version, a filmed
- 13:26Speaker 1: version of a stage play starring Jessica chas Stain before
- 13:30Speaker 1: she became Jessica chaff Stain, And I remember I remember
- 13:34Speaker 1: everybody just like whoa, who is this this girl? Who's
- 13:40Speaker 1: this woman? She is amazing? And it was just but
- 13:44Speaker 1: also at the same time, you know, like kind of
- 13:45Speaker 1: as a fanboy, you're sitting I'm like, I'm sitting at
- 13:47Speaker 1: al paciano his house watching something that he filmed, and
- 13:50Speaker 1: he's asking me my opinion. Wow, this is this is crazy.
- 13:54Speaker 1: Remember the motorcyclists to have with the with advance and
- 13:57Speaker 1: heine short shots. It was really loud. Yeah. I pull
- 13:59Speaker 1: up to a little theater parking lot to turn around
- 14:03Speaker 1: in West Hollywood, and I almost ran over. Albacino wanted
- 14:06Speaker 1: that parking lot. Was there a p a to tell
- 14:09Speaker 1: you not to tell no? No? He was by himself.
- 14:11Speaker 1: He was getting out of his his suv and he
- 14:13Speaker 1: was going into the theater. You know that little old
- 14:15Speaker 1: globe theater they have in West Hollywood. Yeah, he was
- 14:18Speaker 1: there and I roar up and I and he and
- 14:21Speaker 1: he and he gives me this like whoa, whoa because
- 14:23Speaker 1: it was really loud. And I came in and I
- 14:25Speaker 1: didn't see him, and I didn't. It's not I didn't really,
- 14:28Speaker 1: But that's when I got to meet him. And I
- 14:30Speaker 1: got off my motorcycle and I said, you have no
- 14:32Speaker 1: idea how much I wanted to meet you. You were
- 14:35Speaker 1: over at the Warner Brothers lot and I was filming
- 14:37Speaker 1: a show and I just wanted to say you were
- 14:39Speaker 1: one of my big inspirations. And he was really cool
- 14:42Speaker 1: with me. He was just like, oh my god, he goes,
- 14:44Speaker 1: he goes your motorcycles really loud. I said, well, that's
- 14:46Speaker 1: to keep me alive, you know. So yeah, I know
- 14:50Speaker 1: for for how for how grand he is, for how
- 14:52Speaker 1: grand his performances are. Yeah, he's an artist, just like
- 14:55Speaker 1: you or I. Yeah he is. He really truly is,
- 14:57Speaker 1: and and he champions actors. He really, he really does.
- 15:00Speaker 1: It's a pretty wonderful thing. It's it's good good reminder
- 15:05Speaker 1: for being on the other end of things, when there
- 15:08Speaker 1: is that younger actor or someone who's maybe not quite
- 15:12Speaker 1: in a position you're in, like to notice the talent,
- 15:15Speaker 1: to champion the talent, to give them real, honest ideas
- 15:19Speaker 1: so that they can grow in their careers. I could
- 15:22Speaker 1: talk to you all day. Um oh, dude, all day, Scott.
- 15:25Speaker 1: There's a lot of fan questions. I have to ask
- 15:28Speaker 1: you a couple of fan questions. Okay, yeah, no, man,
- 15:31Speaker 1: go for Okay, So all right, let's see Jessica. Maybe
- 15:35Speaker 1: it's Jessica Jesstain wants to know Jessica from she's from Portland,
- 15:41Speaker 1: wants to know looking back, what do you think about
- 15:45Speaker 1: Jesse and Rory's relationship. It's been a while since I've
- 15:51Speaker 1: thought about Jesse and Rory's relationship. I know people always
- 15:54Speaker 1: ask me questions about it, but I think you know
- 15:58Speaker 1: it's things are complicated when you're young. I think we
- 16:02Speaker 1: can all understand this. I think we can all appreciate it.
- 16:07Speaker 1: You know, you're you're going through the developmental change. You
- 16:11Speaker 1: are seeing things in the world that you've never seen before.
- 16:15Speaker 1: You're experiencing things like from from the heart, from the
- 16:19Speaker 1: from the gut, from the head that you're experiencing for
- 16:21Speaker 1: the first time, you know. So I think jessin Rory,
- 16:26Speaker 1: I think they were what they needed at the moment
- 16:30Speaker 1: from each other. And at the same time, you know,
- 16:34Speaker 1: it didn't work out. They went in different directions, and
- 16:37Speaker 1: that's okay too, that's kind of great. Um. But I
- 16:41Speaker 1: think what I did always appreciate about the two of
- 16:44Speaker 1: them was, you know, they outside of what anybody wanted
- 16:50Speaker 1: to put onto those two, they they kind of made
- 16:56Speaker 1: their own world. And I think that's pretty cool. I
- 17:00Speaker 1: think when there's always going to be outside influence and
- 17:03Speaker 1: tell you how to behave, what to read, what to do,
- 17:06Speaker 1: what to look for, what are the pitfalls, what are
- 17:09Speaker 1: the glories? Hey, this is what I did when I
- 17:10Speaker 1: was your age. But really that's just people giving you
- 17:15Speaker 1: their version of what they think your life should be.
- 17:18Speaker 1: So I think Jesse and Rory like really kind of
- 17:21Speaker 1: found their own world and created their own world, and
- 17:23Speaker 1: it lasted beyond just them romantically as teenagers to where
- 17:27Speaker 1: they had an actual friendship as they became young adults.
- 17:33Speaker 1: Would you do it again if they wanted to do
- 17:37Speaker 1: some more episodes? I mean, the thing the thing is,
- 17:41Speaker 1: this is, like I can't ever get away from it,
- 17:43Speaker 1: you know. It's it's for me knowing that like you
- 17:51Speaker 1: and Lauren and Alexis and probably just about everybody else
- 17:56Speaker 1: in the show would show up, and on top of
- 17:58Speaker 1: it would probably be Dan and Amy they're writing their
- 18:01Speaker 1: asses off. It's like, yeah, why wouldn't I, um, if
- 18:06Speaker 1: it would feel like it's there for the right reason
- 18:08Speaker 1: versus the wrong reason, like and we all know those
- 18:11Speaker 1: wrong reasons where shows think that the show is bigger
- 18:15Speaker 1: than the characters, so they'll try and bring it back
- 18:17Speaker 1: just to get more money. And it's like, yeah, but
- 18:20Speaker 1: are you are there really more stories to tell? That's
- 18:24Speaker 1: that's where I always kind of go back to the
- 18:26Speaker 1: nostalgia of the past of stories that we were a
- 18:28Speaker 1: part of. Is are there still more stories to tell?
- 18:31Speaker 1: Have these characters grown to a point where we actually
- 18:34Speaker 1: really want to see more of them, We want to
- 18:37Speaker 1: understand where they've been, We're going to discover something new.
- 18:41Speaker 1: So I think if they did want to bring it back,
- 18:44Speaker 1: and if it was it was Amy and Damn at
- 18:46Speaker 1: the Helm and you guys are all showing up, I'd
- 18:48Speaker 1: be a jerk to not show up. Um that you
- 18:54Speaker 1: just made a lot of people very happy. Not that
- 18:56Speaker 1: not that you don't anyway, but when they hear that,
- 18:58Speaker 1: they're gonna be very happy. No, I'm listen every everybody,
- 19:01Speaker 1: you know. The way that I look at it was
- 19:03Speaker 1: the uh, the four films that were put together after
- 19:07Speaker 1: the fact, that felt like the extra slice of cake,
- 19:11Speaker 1: after you've already had cake, you had that favorite meal,
- 19:15Speaker 1: you had the cake, and then you've got something even
- 19:18Speaker 1: extra like I don't know if they would bring it
- 19:20Speaker 1: back or in the form that maybe people would want,
- 19:25Speaker 1: because I'm also big on Hey, we're artists and we're actors,
- 19:28Speaker 1: and we evolve and we grow, and yes, we played
- 19:31Speaker 1: these parts and they may be iconic and they may
- 19:34Speaker 1: be evergreen, but at the same time, it's like, you know,
- 19:38Speaker 1: I look forward to playing a lot of different men
- 19:41Speaker 1: over the course of my career. Let's talk about the
- 19:48Speaker 1: sledgehammers scene. My my absolute favorite just there you get
- 19:53Speaker 1: a room. Yeah, you know, because of the fact that
- 19:59Speaker 1: I was talking so much, and it was just nice
- 20:03Speaker 1: to do an action. It was nice to do some
- 20:06Speaker 1: physical acting some and just a clever little quick scene. Ah.
- 20:13Speaker 1: And the pressure was on and we had already we'd
- 20:15Speaker 1: already proven that we can operate well under pressure with
- 20:19Speaker 1: the lake Thingum, what do you think of that scene? Oh? Man, again,
- 20:24Speaker 1: that was years ago, but I do remember. I remember, Yeah,
- 20:27Speaker 1: there was a whole whole bunch of gaff and gauwe
- 20:30Speaker 1: going on beforehand that ultimately, you know, the came to
- 20:38Speaker 1: the moment where you start hitting the wall and I
- 20:41Speaker 1: think just just kind of not really understand what's going on.
- 20:43Speaker 1: And then and you go there you got your room.
- 20:46Speaker 1: I think that was the line there. It's like, there
- 20:47Speaker 1: you have your room space or whatever. And yeah, I mean,
- 20:53Speaker 1: I mean, listen, we had we had a lot of work.
- 20:55Speaker 1: I have to go back and watch two seasons from
- 20:58Speaker 1: twenty years ago to like re the truly understand. You know,
- 21:02Speaker 1: I just saw the scene because I hadn't seen a
- 21:05Speaker 1: year in the life. I went to the premiere. You didn't.
- 21:07Speaker 1: You weren't there, which was a great disappointment. Um, but
- 21:10Speaker 1: I'm sure you were busy and you were filming something. Um.
- 21:15Speaker 1: But the premiere was this overwhelming fans celebration. So many
- 21:20Speaker 1: people showed up in Westwood. It was it was craziness.
- 21:23Speaker 1: But I want you know, they played Winter there and
- 21:27Speaker 1: I thought, boy, this is really well done. Uh. They
- 21:30Speaker 1: they felt like little rom coms. They felt like really
- 21:33Speaker 1: high quality, uh independent films. Um. It didn't seem like
- 21:38Speaker 1: television anymore. It seemed like it had graduated into something,
- 21:41Speaker 1: you know, it morphed into sort of the film world.
- 21:44Speaker 1: Um Um. But I I didn't watch the other three episodes.
- 21:48Speaker 1: I just don't like I don't like watching myself. I
- 21:51Speaker 1: don't you know. I spent so much time with the
- 21:53Speaker 1: show that I didn't watch it. And then I finally
- 21:55Speaker 1: saw the scene with the flower and you and me
- 21:58Speaker 1: and Laurela had gone to California to do her wilding,
- 22:03Speaker 1: and I was so touched by that scene. I was
- 22:07Speaker 1: so moved by that scene because your character had come
- 22:10Speaker 1: full circle and now you were the one taking care
- 22:13Speaker 1: of me and it, and I actually teared up a
- 22:17Speaker 1: little bit because I missed you so much and I
- 22:19Speaker 1: know you're such a good guy, and and what a
- 22:23Speaker 1: perfect moment that was for me. And in all of
- 22:26Speaker 1: the those four episodes, that was my favorite moment. That
- 22:30Speaker 1: scene was my favorite moment. Um. Anyway, that's well, I'll
- 22:35Speaker 1: say about that. Let's get into your podcast. You have
- 22:40Speaker 1: a podcast. You're doing a podcast with Stephen King. Tell
- 22:45Speaker 1: us a little bit about that. Um, I mean, I
- 22:48Speaker 1: got approached, just like an acting job. You know, I
- 22:51Speaker 1: listen to podcasts, have been a podcast, and I'm in
- 22:53Speaker 1: the process of putting up a couple of my own
- 22:56Speaker 1: in the scripted world, which hopefully I can talk about soon.
- 23:01Speaker 1: But this, I just I got approached. And you know,
- 23:04Speaker 1: I've always grown up with Stephen King novels, and once
- 23:08Speaker 1: I had a little bit of bravery and read some
- 23:11Speaker 1: and and understand the writing and find my favorites and
- 23:14Speaker 1: all of that, I just I was a fan like
- 23:17Speaker 1: anybody else. So when the opportunity came up to be
- 23:22Speaker 1: a part of this, I was familiar with the short story,
- 23:26Speaker 1: but I hadn't read it. I know it was only
- 23:28Speaker 1: eleven pages. But what I did read were the first
- 23:32Speaker 1: three episodes that were written by Lee Metzger, and I
- 23:37Speaker 1: just thought, this writing is phenomenal. A one thousand percent
- 23:41Speaker 1: captures the essence of a Stephen King's story, and I'd
- 23:47Speaker 1: like to do it. So, you know, just like a
- 23:50Speaker 1: normal job, you line up to meet people, although you're
- 23:53Speaker 1: not going in for fittings, you're not going in for
- 23:55Speaker 1: hair and makeup tests. You're just they're understanding what you're
- 23:58Speaker 1: gonna do with your voice and how it's going to go. So,
- 24:02Speaker 1: and these murders happen in one section of time, and
- 24:06Speaker 1: then we jump forward and they're happening again. So you
- 24:09Speaker 1: start to understand there's a serial killer, and there is
- 24:13Speaker 1: an investigative journalist that starts at the school paper but
- 24:16Speaker 1: also kind of graduates beyond that who's investigating these and
- 24:19Speaker 1: that's played by Garrett Headlind, This guy that works the
- 24:22Speaker 1: newspaper played by Sydney Sweeney, and I play Um, Garrett's
- 24:27Speaker 1: friend who's also a radio DJ at the time, and
- 24:30Speaker 1: we're all just trying to make sense and understand what
- 24:34Speaker 1: these killings are about and who's doing it and trying
- 24:37Speaker 1: to like just really figure it out. And in true
- 24:39Speaker 1: Stephen King fashion, it's it's darkness, it's scary and it's
- 24:44Speaker 1: real and you kind of are haunted by it and
- 24:48Speaker 1: you know you're you're really thinking about those things that
- 24:50Speaker 1: kind of lurk under the bed or outside your window
- 24:52Speaker 1: at night. Fantastic. Yeah, it's fantastic. What an interesting project. Yeah,
- 24:59Speaker 1: Stephen King all about Yeah, he's all about you know
- 25:01Speaker 1: New Hampshire, Vermont, you know the woods, Ye, all that yeah,
- 25:06Speaker 1: fog fog rolling in every years. You know. My god. Uh,
- 25:11Speaker 1: that's great. So that's so those you're making those episodes
- 25:14Speaker 1: now and they're they're download loadable now, they're already they're
- 25:17Speaker 1: already made, they're already made. It took me not a
- 25:20Speaker 1: lot of time to shoot all eight of my episodes. Um. Yeah,
- 25:23Speaker 1: they're out on our Heart Radio Spotify podcast. New episodes
- 25:27Speaker 1: come out every Wednesday. So I think there's three episodes
- 25:30Speaker 1: now we've got five more on top of that. And um,
- 25:34Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean it's the story really builds. I
- 25:36Speaker 1: think it's great. I mean, you know, as a kid,
- 25:39Speaker 1: I used to listen to these these radio plays when
- 25:41Speaker 1: I go on road trips to my dad, Like I said,
- 25:43Speaker 1: and it's just, uh, this is exactly that, this is
- 25:48Speaker 1: exactly that. All right. I hadn't I wasn't even aware
- 25:53Speaker 1: of that. And then yeah, producers told me that you
- 25:56Speaker 1: had a a podcast. I was fascinating. Um, here's a question,
- 26:01Speaker 1: here's another fan question. Yeah. Um, you've played a couple
- 26:05Speaker 1: of different iconic roles, uh in your career so far
- 26:09Speaker 1: many more to come. Who do you think is what
- 26:15Speaker 1: do you think Jack Pearson versus Jess who did you
- 26:20Speaker 1: have more fun playing or are you enjoying Jack Pearson
- 26:23Speaker 1: as much as you played Jess. I enjoyed Jack Pierson
- 26:27Speaker 1: as much as I enjoyed playing Jess. I mean, if
- 26:29Speaker 1: you know, for for me and I know we've talked
- 26:32Speaker 1: about this in terms of like acting and whatnot, but
- 26:34Speaker 1: I really put myself into a character holy like you know,
- 26:39Speaker 1: w h O L like just the whole thing. Um.
- 26:43Speaker 1: I immersed myself in it, uh to the point where
- 26:46Speaker 1: I can take that character off like a costume and
- 26:49Speaker 1: lead them on set and step away and just be myself.
- 26:52Speaker 1: Or when cut is called, I get to step away
- 26:55Speaker 1: and be myself. So when I was twenty four and
- 27:01Speaker 1: I was playing Jess, I was completely invested. As I'm
- 27:05Speaker 1: in my forties now playing Jack, I'm completely invested in
- 27:09Speaker 1: Jack and six years deep. The nice thing about a
- 27:14Speaker 1: guy like Jack and what I was able to experience
- 27:16Speaker 1: with Jess as well, was knowing these men so deeply
- 27:22Speaker 1: and so intimately that I was acting on instinct. All
- 27:26Speaker 1: I had to do was truly learned my lines, show up,
- 27:30Speaker 1: look my co star in the eye. And then there's
- 27:33Speaker 1: the character, you know, I mean, Harry, and the makeup,
- 27:35Speaker 1: the wardrobe you know, of course kind of like puts
- 27:38Speaker 1: you into that that mode of the character. But it's
- 27:42Speaker 1: all acting on instinct. So I I enjoy it. I
- 27:47Speaker 1: really do. Um. I'm sure you know these aren't the
- 27:52Speaker 1: two defining characters all have, just like Peter PETRELLI wasn't.
- 27:56Speaker 1: In addition, But I mean, you know, there's there's a
- 27:58Speaker 1: lot of men complex and incredibly simple that I would
- 28:04Speaker 1: love to play that I'd love to kind of tell
- 28:06Speaker 1: the stories of who aren't that? Who do you want
- 28:08Speaker 1: to play? Who are you really itching to play? I mean,
- 28:11Speaker 1: I tell you what. Last year I was lined up
- 28:13Speaker 1: to play Evil kin Evil. Yeah, we got we got
- 28:18Speaker 1: shut down. I mean I was fully transformed over um
- 28:22Speaker 1: at some point. I'll show you the photos, the portraits
- 28:25Speaker 1: we took because whoa. People people thought they were like, oh, yeah,
- 28:29Speaker 1: you're gonna look just like him, Like, no, that's me,
- 28:31Speaker 1: that's not him, that's me, that's not him. Um. I'd
- 28:35Speaker 1: like to get back to that project and people that
- 28:38Speaker 1: was you know, he's he's an icon and he's an
- 28:42Speaker 1: American legend. Um. He was also uh not an amazing
- 28:47Speaker 1: husband and not an amazing father in ways and really
- 28:51Speaker 1: had uh a tough outlook on the people that were
- 28:56Speaker 1: supporting him, and that he just didn't treat well. So
- 29:00Speaker 1: he was a complex character, very complex man that I
- 29:05Speaker 1: would like to get back to that and the stories
- 29:07Speaker 1: we we had lined up in the six episodes we
- 29:10Speaker 1: were going to do. I mean, we're Wow, what a journey.
- 29:13Speaker 1: You know, I grew up with him. I grew up
- 29:15Speaker 1: with that guy. Um, I mean he was part of
- 29:19Speaker 1: the entertainment of my youth. Yeah. It seems like every
- 29:24Speaker 1: month or every couple of months, Evil Kinevel was going
- 29:26Speaker 1: to set another record jumping his motorcycle over you know,
- 29:29Speaker 1: now thirty busses or forty busses or something in the
- 29:32Speaker 1: Houston Astrodome or wherever. And he always fell, and he
- 29:36Speaker 1: always broke dozens of bones in his legs, his hips,
- 29:42Speaker 1: his I mean, he was always in surgery. He was
- 29:45Speaker 1: always but you know what he always did, and what
- 29:48Speaker 1: the biggest message was, what you get back up. You
- 29:52Speaker 1: get back up no matter what you're gonna fall, but
- 29:57Speaker 1: you're always going to get back up. And I think
- 30:00Speaker 1: that was what people identified with. Yes, people people would
- 30:04Speaker 1: watch him to see the crash, but also that triumphant
- 30:10Speaker 1: get back up even in the most pain Like when
- 30:12Speaker 1: he crashed it whimbly, I think he was he'd made
- 30:15Speaker 1: an announcement saying, this is the last time I'm never
- 30:17Speaker 1: going to jump. I mean that dude was really broken
- 30:20Speaker 1: once that happened, really broken. But he had to as
- 30:25Speaker 1: a point, get up and walk out of that stadium,
- 30:28Speaker 1: even though he had help, but he had to do it.
- 30:31Speaker 1: He could not do it. It was a big inspiration
- 30:34Speaker 1: to kids. You know, it's a big message of his
- 30:36Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he did a lot of other badge,
- 30:39Speaker 1: but he got back up. It just it was staggering
- 30:45Speaker 1: to watch a man put himself through that. Yeah, you're
- 30:49Speaker 1: a little kid watching this guy, and they're showing it
- 30:51Speaker 1: in slow motion. The thing I remember most about Evil
- 30:53Speaker 1: Kin Evil is his attempt to jump the Grand Canyon
- 30:57Speaker 1: in that rocket car and then the slow motion replays
- 31:01Speaker 1: on ABC's Wide World of Sports of him crashing and
- 31:05Speaker 1: the and his bones but you could see his bones
- 31:07Speaker 1: breaking on on the on the concrete. When I mean,
- 31:09Speaker 1: it was just like, why is this guy doing so
- 31:12Speaker 1: that contract is still still has life. You can go back.
- 31:16Speaker 1: You're gonna go back and do that. Yeah, we're we're
- 31:19Speaker 1: trying to figure that out. I mean, you know, we
- 31:21Speaker 1: got shut down because of covid Um, where the whole
- 31:24Speaker 1: world just stopped, and then ultimately I personally ran out
- 31:28Speaker 1: of time to be able to go film that because
- 31:31Speaker 1: it was six episodes, it was a pretty big, ambitious project,
- 31:34Speaker 1: and we were also producing it, so you know, we
- 31:37Speaker 1: knew that we we could step away from it and
- 31:40Speaker 1: hopefully go back to US. I think right now there's
- 31:42Speaker 1: conversations about bringing that back next spring once I wrapped
- 31:45Speaker 1: This is Us, you know, go blond again, put my
- 31:49Speaker 1: fake hairy chest on and and get back into the
- 31:53Speaker 1: white leathers. Um. But yeah, I'm sure. I mean, you know,
- 31:57Speaker 1: we spend six years on the show too. You know,
- 32:00Speaker 1: you know this, It's like when it's done, you're kind
- 32:02Speaker 1: of ready to take a break, but you're also peaked
- 32:04Speaker 1: to know what else is out there? You know, what
- 32:09Speaker 1: are the opportunities can can can I jump on? What
- 32:12Speaker 1: are the characters can I play? Because as an artist,
- 32:15Speaker 1: you know, I always want to challenge myself and I
- 32:18Speaker 1: want to grow when I want to play things that
- 32:21Speaker 1: aren't the same as what I've been doing, Like you know,
- 32:24Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I don't need to play another Jack Pearson father,
- 32:28Speaker 1: even though people see me in that light right now,
- 32:30Speaker 1: because we'll I've done it for six years. Maybe I
- 32:33Speaker 1: need to do something different, like evil and Evil was
- 32:36Speaker 1: the complete opposite, because they're going to come after you
- 32:38Speaker 1: for every Jack Pearson role. Yeah, of course they're gonna
- 32:42Speaker 1: want you to play that for the rest of your life. Yeah. Sure,
- 32:45Speaker 1: And I could probably make a nice, nice living in
- 32:47Speaker 1: a nice career that. But also it's like I wouldn't
- 32:49Speaker 1: be satisfied for me. I'd rather just you know, I
- 32:52Speaker 1: don't know, learn how to go like shaping knives in
- 32:55Speaker 1: Japan for the rest of my life. Okay, So I
- 32:57Speaker 1: don't know exactly. I mean, yeah, uh, keep learning, keep changing. Yeah, absolutely.
- 33:05Speaker 1: Why do you think here's another fan question. This is
- 33:08Speaker 1: from Maggie from Oh Moosehead Lake. Why do you think
- 33:13Speaker 1: Gilmore is so special and has stood the test of time.
- 33:19Speaker 1: I think it's a bit of wish fulfillment, and I
- 33:21Speaker 1: think it's got a magical quality quality to it. At
- 33:24Speaker 1: the same time, I think it shows on an emotional
- 33:29Speaker 1: level experiences that we all go through. As simple as that,
- 33:35Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's wish film and everybody wants
- 33:38Speaker 1: to live in a small town with the gazebo. That's
- 33:40Speaker 1: the wish part. The emotional side, we all experienced, you know, love,
- 33:45Speaker 1: we all experienced heartbreak, we all experience coming across some
- 33:48Speaker 1: zany characters in our in our worlds. Um. But at
- 33:53Speaker 1: the same time, all we're looking for is companionship and
- 33:56Speaker 1: happiness and love and and hopefully support. I think that's
- 34:00Speaker 1: a big thing. And you know, I think I think
- 34:02Speaker 1: Gilmore had a lot of that, had a lot of
- 34:04Speaker 1: supportful like not supporting, but there was there were a
- 34:10Speaker 1: lot of characters that were, yes, let's say, supporting others
- 34:16Speaker 1: in an emotional way. A lot of love, a lot
- 34:20Speaker 1: of love. There a lot of love. Okay, here we
- 34:22Speaker 1: have Jennifer from Dallas. What was your favorite Okay, here's
- 34:28Speaker 1: a Jess question. What was your favorite part of Jess
- 34:30Speaker 1: and what was your least favorite part of Jess? Um.
- 34:37Speaker 1: I think they might have been one of the same
- 34:39Speaker 1: as confidence, because I think he had a lot of confidence,
- 34:42Speaker 1: and he also had a lot of insecurities and he
- 34:45Speaker 1: kind of had to find his way back to that center,
- 34:47Speaker 1: back to that middle, and it made him complex, it
- 34:53Speaker 1: made him have to discover the sides of his existence.
- 34:59Speaker 1: That were constantly battling inside of him, you know, the
- 35:03Speaker 1: exposure to the vulnerability, but yet the bravado of no
- 35:06Speaker 1: I know exactly the answer to these twenty questions because
- 35:09Speaker 1: I'm kind of a kid genius and I root um.
- 35:13Speaker 1: You know, those are my favorite sides of Jess. I
- 35:16Speaker 1: just I really like that, and I liked when he
- 35:19Speaker 1: would allow that vulnerability to happen and he was rewarded
- 35:27Speaker 1: for it, you know, kind of like those breakthrough moments
- 35:30Speaker 1: with Luke, the breakthrough moments with his father, that we
- 35:33Speaker 1: only got a glimpse of those breakthrough moments with Rory,
- 35:36Speaker 1: that we that we understood we're happening. I think those
- 35:39Speaker 1: moments were wonderful because it happens in life. We all
- 35:43Speaker 1: do that. We put ourselves out there. We may speak honestly,
- 35:48Speaker 1: but yet with the idea that maybe somebody's not going
- 35:52Speaker 1: to respond. Well, but the fear is just us projecting
- 35:56Speaker 1: what could what we think may happen, versus having a
- 36:00Speaker 1: good honest conversation, and that just usually comes up being
- 36:02Speaker 1: an adult. M hm. You know, well, I don't think
- 36:08Speaker 1: they could have picked a better actor to play Jess.
- 36:11Speaker 1: I don't think they could have picked the better actor
- 36:13Speaker 1: to play Jack Pearson. Um. I think when you have
- 36:19Speaker 1: the experience of working with Milo, and I'm talking to
- 36:23Speaker 1: my audience directly, it's it's working at an in an
- 36:27Speaker 1: elevated place. UM, when you would come on the set
- 36:32Speaker 1: and we would do our work. UM, there was something
- 36:36Speaker 1: very very calming, um, working with you, about working with you. Uh.
- 36:43Speaker 1: And I miss it, and I miss you, and I
- 36:45Speaker 1: love you, brother, and I'm so happy for all of
- 36:50Speaker 1: your success and please continued success. I think you're I
- 36:55Speaker 1: think I think you're just scratching the surface of where
- 36:57Speaker 1: you're going to go in this business. I hope, I hope. So,
- 36:59Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if I'm discratching there, just hopefully
- 37:02Speaker 1: can just create other opportunities where guys like us can
- 37:04Speaker 1: get back on a set, you know, because I feel
- 37:06Speaker 1: exactly the same way. I love the experience. Whenever I
- 37:09Speaker 1: think about it, I was going back to like immediately
- 37:12Speaker 1: standing outside of the diner, middle of the night, workshopping lines,
- 37:16Speaker 1: and you're like, you know, how you remember long passage?
- 37:19Speaker 1: Ago enough, Scott, how do you remember long passage? And
- 37:21Speaker 1: you go, you say the sentence, but then you tack
- 37:24Speaker 1: on the first word of the next sentence and then
- 37:29Speaker 1: you just string them all together. I never, I never,
- 37:31Speaker 1: I never never thought about that. Okay, dude, we we
- 37:35Speaker 1: would just work. I forgot about work and work, but
- 37:39Speaker 1: it but it was it was always exciting and it
- 37:42Speaker 1: was always fun, and it was like I was gonna
- 37:45Speaker 1: be this is gonna be good, this is gonna be
- 37:46Speaker 1: a good five takes. Let's do it, yeah for you,
- 37:49Speaker 1: because we'd have to do that many times for sure,
- 37:52Speaker 1: Um yeah a lot. All right, buddy, you have to
- 37:56Speaker 1: please come back. We have so many things we can
- 37:59Speaker 1: talk about other than Gilmore girls, and I know, I
- 38:02Speaker 1: know I could. I could be uh andy to your
- 38:04Speaker 1: conan go vow all the best, um and thanks for
- 38:10Speaker 1: coming on. Thank you for your time, gentlemen. Love you buddy,
- 38:15Speaker 1: my lo vent Amelia. Have a great day. We'll talk
- 38:19Speaker 1: to somebody man, okay man, Thanks God right bye, Hey everybody,
- 38:53Speaker 1: and don't forget follow us on Instagram at I Am
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