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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Says Reparations are "Very Obviously Unconstitutional" · Earn Your Leisure

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  Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child
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  Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador
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  Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with
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  Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just
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  Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President
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  Speaker 2: Trump's leadership.
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  Speaker 1: Under President Trump, attempted illegal border crossings are at the
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  Speaker 1: lowest levels ever recorded, and over one hundred thousand illegal
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  Speaker 3: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security.
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  Speaker 4: What is your stance on reparations, Yes.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I understand the moral.
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  Speaker 6: The moral argument for reparations. I think race paper based
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  Speaker 6: reparations are are very, very obviously unconstitutional under the you
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  Speaker 6: know reason.
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  Speaker 5: Supreme Court decision in the Harvard case. Oh I you know.
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  Speaker 6: My approach to economic development in black communities, I think
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  Speaker 6: is more comprehensive than that, and you know less and constitutions.
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  Speaker 6: I've worked for thirty five years as on the board
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  Speaker 6: of directors of Bedford Steibusant Restoration, which is the oldest
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  Speaker 6: community development corporation. My father started it in our country
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  Speaker 6: in one of the poorest black neighborhoods in America, and
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  Speaker 6: I watched what economic development.
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  Speaker 5: Could do to those neighborhoods.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, one of the problems in black neighborhoods
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  Speaker 6: is that there is no equity. And we have systematically
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  Speaker 6: stripped equity, including men, namely.
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  Speaker 5: Home ownership, from black neighborhoods.
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  Speaker 6: By twenty thirty, there will be essentially he's zero Black
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  Speaker 6: equity left in this country. And that's destroying in these neighborhoods.
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  Speaker 6: If you don't own a home, if you don't own
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  Speaker 6: something that you can brow money on, you have no
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  Speaker 6: entree to American capitalism. You are no longer a citizen.
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  Speaker 6: You are now as a subject. And you know the
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  Speaker 6: challenge is and you know those those communities are redlined.
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  Speaker 6: It was black communities that the entire nation you know, collapse,
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  Speaker 6: our real estate collapse in two thousand and eight because
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  Speaker 6: of these balloon mortgages and these exotic instruments. Well those
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  Speaker 6: companies were testing those exotic instrument for a decade earlier.
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  Speaker 6: In the black that was the testing zone and those
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  Speaker 6: you know bedside when I started working there was the
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  Speaker 6: reason my father chose that neighborhood is it was very poor,
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  Speaker 6: but it had a high incident of home ownership by
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  Speaker 6: black families, many who have been there from the Civil War,
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  Speaker 6: and so they had the opportunity to start businesses and
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  Speaker 6: they were very entrepreneurial. The problem is they were redlined,
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  Speaker 6: and my father ended that and got them access to
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  Speaker 6: capital and the other The problem with black businesses is
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  Speaker 6: that a lot of you know, there's not the accrued
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  Speaker 6: knowledge business knowledge in black communities. Like my father always said,
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  Speaker 6: you know, if he wanted to start a business, he'd
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  Speaker 6: call a friend of his from Harvard to the Harvard
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  Speaker 6: Business go and say, how do you solve this problem?
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  Speaker 6: How do you do this accounting issue? You know, how
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  Speaker 6: do you how do you handle inventories? You know, how
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  Speaker 6: do when do you pay for the inventories, et cetera.
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  Speaker 6: In a black neighborhood, there is not that accrude knowledge
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  Speaker 6: and people can't pick up the phone and get it.
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  Speaker 6: So one of the things we did with Bedside is
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  Speaker 6: we made those mentorships available to them. And when we
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  Speaker 6: first started working in Bedside Fulton Street in Brooklyn, there
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  Speaker 6: wasn't a single open business. They were all boarded up.
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  Speaker 6: Today it's a thriving community with black owned businesses everywhere.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, the other thing we need to be
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  Speaker 6: doing in those communities is it's a criminal. It's criminal
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  Speaker 6: what we're doing to the schools urban schools in this country.
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  Speaker 6: Kids are not getting educated. They're being warehouse in those schools.
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  Speaker 6: And you know what I see people teaching about for
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  Speaker 6: diversity training and you know, and you know all of
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  Speaker 6: these sort of any racism education and enforcement, et cetera
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  Speaker 6: that you see, which all great, but you know that's
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  Speaker 6: not going to insult the problem. What solve is the
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  Speaker 6: problem if you have a generation of kids who have
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  Speaker 6: self confidence, who believe in themselves, who have access to capital,
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  Speaker 6: who are part of families that are building businesses, who
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  Speaker 6: own a business for themselves.
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  Speaker 5: I was calling you know when I was a kid.
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  Speaker 6: There was a lot of anti Catholic president prejudors in
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  Speaker 6: this country, and I got called names like mackerels Acher,
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  Speaker 6: et cetera. And it never bothered me. I would think,
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  Speaker 6: you know that that person's problem. They're calling me that
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  Speaker 6: I'm proud of who I am. I'm proud of my religion.
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  Speaker 6: And you know I was able to feel that.
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  Speaker 4: Way, mystic mister Kennedy. Not to cut you off, but
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  Speaker 4: just I just wanted to go because you see. So,
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  Speaker 4: I think we did two different conversations. As far as
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  Speaker 4: black economic empowerment. That's important, that's kind of the basis
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  Speaker 4: of our of our whole show. But the question was
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  Speaker 4: specifically around reparations. So you said, you know your anti that,
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  Speaker 4: and you said that I believe you say it's unconstitutional.
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  Speaker 4: But where Japanese Americans not compensated for what happened to
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  Speaker 4: them during World War Two?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Job, and these Americans were compensated. And I think if
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  Speaker 6: reparations were not race based, that for example, if you
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  Speaker 6: just said, no matter what race you are, if you
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  Speaker 6: can trace your lineage back to slavery, there you could
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  Speaker 6: you could not do reparations for Jim Crow. You can
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  Speaker 6: make a very strong moral case for that, you know,
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  Speaker 6: and I grew up in a Jim Crow's day, But
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  Speaker 6: you couldn't. You can't do race based. You could say, okay,
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  Speaker 6: if I trace my lineage back to slavery and my
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  Speaker 6: family was, you know, promised forty acres a mule, and
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  Speaker 6: then we got double crossed on that that you can
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  Speaker 6: that you know, you could conceivably bring that case and
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  Speaker 6: that it would be.
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  Speaker 5: That would pass constitution. Monster.
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  Speaker 6: Do I think that that case politically that you could,
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  Speaker 6: that you could you could push through those kind of
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  Speaker 6: reparations in Congress. I think it would be a very
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  Speaker 6: very heavy lift.
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  Speaker 3: So you brought up a few issues, right.
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  Speaker 7: You talked about the lack of education in our community,
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  Speaker 7: the lack of schools which hence talks about the lack
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  Speaker 7: of education. Talked about the lack of businesses in our communities.
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  Speaker 7: You said, the issues with having no home equity, and
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  Speaker 7: these are all issues redlining.
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  Speaker 3: You brought up.
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  Speaker 7: I want to talk about something that also plagues our communities,
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  Speaker 7: and that's criminal justice and mass incarceration.
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  Speaker 3: And social criminal justice reform.
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  Speaker 7: So I want to know what your thoughts around that, because,
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  Speaker 7: as we know, black African Americans and LATINX community are
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  Speaker 7: disproportionately incarcerated, more so than anybody in our country and
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  Speaker 7: pretty much the world for that matter. So what are
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  Speaker 7: your thoughts around criminal justice for form, Well.
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  Speaker 6: I think the you know, the nineteen eighty six Criminal
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  Speaker 6: Justice Act and then you know nineteen ninety four, which
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  Speaker 6: instantly were both supported by were written on both of
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  Speaker 6: them by President Biden, were you know, probably the worst
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  Speaker 6: blight on the African American community. And you know, we
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  Speaker 6: as you guys know, there was one hundred to one
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  Speaker 6: in the in the nineteen eighty six Act, there was
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  Speaker 6: one hundred to one penalty for for for crack cocaine.
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  Speaker 6: Visa the powder cocaine and crack cocaine was a black
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  Speaker 6: job drug. They're both cocaine, they're both the same drug,
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  Speaker 6: but the form was more common. Crack was more common
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  Speaker 6: in black communities, so the penalties that were assigned to it.
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  Speaker 5: Were one hundred times.
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  Speaker 6: So a kid who was in a black community that
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  Speaker 6: got call it with some crackt a one hundred times the
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  Speaker 6: penalty of a kid in a white community a mile
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  Speaker 6: away at it had powder cocaine. And in the years between,
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  Speaker 6: in the eight years after that the eighties six Act,
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  Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President
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  Speaker 1: Donald J.
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  Speaker 2: Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the.
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  Speaker 1: United States Secretary of Homeland Security under President Trump. Attempted
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  Speaker 1: illegal border crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded,
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  Speaker 1: and over one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested.
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  Speaker 1: If you are here illegally, your next you will be
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  Speaker 1: fine nearly one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned and.
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  Speaker 2: Deported, you will never return.
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  Speaker 2: Do what's right, leave now.
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  Speaker 1: Under President Trump, America's laws, border and families will be protected.
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  Speaker 3: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security.
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  Speaker 5: Eight the.
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  Speaker 6: Black population America's prisons had doubled, and they were from
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  Speaker 6: mainly nonviolent crimes. It was for drug crimes. And we
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  Speaker 6: destroyed an entire generation of Black Americans. We made it
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  Speaker 6: in many states so they can't vote, they're disenfranchised. It
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  Speaker 6: was a generation of black children who were raised without
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  Speaker 6: their fathers, and you know, there was a you know,
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  Speaker 6: that's where rap music came from. All of these, you know,
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  Speaker 6: the entire culture of the black community. Because jailing was
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  Speaker 6: a prison was so commonplace became it became a you know,
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  Speaker 6: a part of the part part of the cultural a
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  Speaker 6: typical cultural experience.
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  Speaker 7: I'm sorry, are you saying that country.
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  Speaker 6: No, and I will your answer your question. I want
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  Speaker 6: to get I want to stop.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I just wanted to be clear what you were
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  Speaker 7: saying about the music itself. You're saying that the music
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  Speaker 7: derived from the mass incarceration or because I just want
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  Speaker 7: to be clear, I.
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  Speaker 6: Mean, madis incarceration dictated the way people dress the music.
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  Speaker 6: All I'm saying is that it was so power, such
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  Speaker 6: a powerful and universal experience that it put the stamp
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  Speaker 6: on every aspect of black culture. And it's you know,
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  Speaker 6: I don't think that that's I'm not saying anything. I'm
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  Speaker 6: certainly not saying anything against rap music. I'm just saying
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  Speaker 6: that it changed, It altered the entire culture, and it's
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  Speaker 6: not you know, it's not a good thing.
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  Speaker 5: It was not a good thing for our country.
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  Speaker 6: It was definitely not a good thing for the black population,
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  Speaker 6: or for economic development, or or people being able to
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  Speaker 6: live in this country and fulfill their potential and fulfill
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  Speaker 6: their expectations.
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  Speaker 5: In prison's not a good place to do that. So,
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  Speaker 5: you know, that's all I was saying.
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  Speaker 6: And I you know, as president, I'm going to do
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  Speaker 6: everything I can to make sure my father fought you know, Uh,
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  Speaker 6: tooth and nail, or prison reform to make sure that
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  Speaker 6: people when they came out of prison, that they had training,
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  Speaker 6: that they had that they had opportunities for education, that
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  Speaker 6: they had opportunities when they got out, and that people
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  Speaker 6: weren't in prison for you know, for rhymes, that that
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  Speaker 6: they shouldn't be in prison for.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway.
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  Speaker 6: I mean one way, my father died. All of the
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  Speaker 6: the It's It's sing sing an Attica wore black armbands
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  Speaker 6: because the commitment he'd made to better the conditions in
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  Speaker 6: the prisons and to give opportunities to people, you know, that.
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  Speaker 5: They're not cast away. You know, what I want to do.
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  Speaker 6: Is start is you know, but prisons are now the
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  Speaker 6: biggest industry in rural areas in our country, and I
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  Speaker 6: want to develop instead a string of farm drug rehabs
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  Speaker 6: and healing farms in those same rural communities where people
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  Speaker 6: can go if they get involved with drugs, if they
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  Speaker 6: if they're you know, if they're debilitated by depression or
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  Speaker 6: or dependence on on on psychiatric drugs that they want
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  Speaker 6: to get off of, there's places for them to go
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  Speaker 6: where they can learn to live in communities again, where
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  Speaker 6: they can receive job training where they can receive to
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  Speaker 6: get social skills and make sure they can.
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  Speaker 5: Get GEDs and education.
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  Speaker 6: Or whatever, and that we have a humane way of
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  Speaker 6: treating people in this country who who've gone off on
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  Speaker 6: the wrong you know, on the wrong tack.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, I was a drug addict.
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  Speaker 6: For fourteen years when I was a kid after my
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  Speaker 6: dad died. And you know, if I had been in
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  Speaker 6: a black community, I'd probably be in prison today. Oh,
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  Speaker 6: you know, that's not fair and it's not a good
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  Speaker 6: thing for our country. And you know, I don't you know,
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  Speaker 6: it's going to be one of my priorities as president.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, but the issue is systemic, right, we can
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  Speaker 7: all agree on that, and we all know from statistics
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  Speaker 7: that it hasn't been.
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  Speaker 3: A place to rehabilitate people.
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  Speaker 7: But from a business standpoint, I mean, the more prisoners
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  Speaker 7: that are taking in, the cost for is tremendous, So
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  Speaker 7: private business specifically, what is the benefit of not in
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  Speaker 7: prisoning population? Like, what are we going to do to
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  Speaker 7: combat that?
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  Speaker 6: If you're elected, let me ask you something besides what
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  Speaker 6: I said, what do you think I should be doing?
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  Speaker 3: What do I think you should be doing?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, what do you think I mean?
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  Speaker 6: Tell me what if you were president, or if I'm
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  Speaker 6: president and I call you up on the first week
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  Speaker 6: and say, will you come up here and give me
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  Speaker 6: a plan for.
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  Speaker 5: Prison reform? What are you going to tell me to do?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 7: I don't think it's it's a singular proposal, right. I
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  Speaker 7: think that's something that we'd have to discuss amongst our people.
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  Speaker 3: From a place that's education.
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  Speaker 5: I can sound like a politician.
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  Speaker 7: No, I'm sounded like somebody that's answering your question right
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  Speaker 7: from a standpoint that we know the issues and we
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  Speaker 7: know the people that benefit from it. But every time
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  Speaker 7: somebody is, you know, trying to be elected for an
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  Speaker 7: office or a seat, they talk about policies, but none
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  Speaker 7: of them ever implemented. And so I'm asking you specifically,
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  Speaker 7: what are the policies, right, are the other educational programs?
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  Speaker 3: Is it police reform? Are are we having better training? Like?
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  Speaker 7: What are the specific things that are going to be
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  Speaker 7: implemented to combat it?
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  Speaker 6: Well?
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  Speaker 5: You know, I have a guy who's working on my campaign.
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  Speaker 6: Who is who served a long bid in prison and
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  Speaker 6: he learned to he got his ged and he got
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  Speaker 6: an education, and he came out feeling like it actually
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  Speaker 6: had been a good positive.
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  Speaker 5: Experience for him.
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  Speaker 6: And so I think it's possible that people go to
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  Speaker 6: particularly when young people go to prison, and we give
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  Speaker 6: them opportunities to actually make themselves better for when they
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  Speaker 6: get out of prison.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, I've been in prison. I served.
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  Speaker 6: I spent the summer of two thousand one in maximum
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  Speaker 6: security federal prison in Puerto Rico. And you know, in
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  Speaker 6: that particular prison, there were a lot of educational opportunities
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  Speaker 6: for people, and there were other opportunities, and then there
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  Speaker 6: were things that were foreclosed, like I couldn't go to
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  Speaker 6: AA meetings when I was in that prison.
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  Speaker 5: There's something wrong with that.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of people are in prison you want that
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  Speaker 6: have access to recovery. So I know I could tell
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  Speaker 6: you right now that you know if when I'm present,
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to make sure that federal prisons, that federal
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  Speaker 6: prisoners have access to twelve step program. If somebody wants
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  Speaker 6: to recover, that's a perfect place to do it. But
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  Speaker 6: you know what I'm also asking you, and I you know,
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to provide educational opportunities and make sure that
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  Speaker 6: you know that we do everything that we get that
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  Speaker 6: identify model programs around the country that are working and
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  Speaker 6: then try to adopt those protocols in other prison And
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  Speaker 6: that's all I can tell you. But I mean, I'd
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  Speaker 6: love to hear because a lot of people ask me
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  Speaker 6: about prisoner for him and I you know when I
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  Speaker 6: say to them, And I said this to my friend Champ,
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  Speaker 6: I said, what would you do with you were me?
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  Speaker 6: And he said, education.
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  Speaker 5: Changed my life. So that's a good idea. I want that.
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  Speaker 6: Available to everybody. And if you have an idea, and
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  Speaker 6: I want to hear it, you know, because I don't
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  Speaker 6: know everything.
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  Speaker 8: A lot about If we're being very honest, we're going
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  Speaker 8: to have to find a way to offset the seven
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  Speaker 8: point four billion dollars that they lose annually. So if
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  Speaker 8: there is cash and money related incentives to lock our
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  Speaker 8: people up, there has to be a way to funnel
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  Speaker 8: them from the current system that they're using into another.
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  Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child
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  Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from El Salvador
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  Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with
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  Speaker 1: filming and so selling child pornography in Michigan. These are
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  Speaker 1: just some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: President Donald J.
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  Speaker 2: Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the.
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  Speaker 1: United States Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted
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  Speaker 1: illegal border crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded,
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  Speaker 1: and over one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested.
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  Speaker 1: If you are here illegally, your next you will be
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  Speaker 1: fine nearly one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned and deported,
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  Speaker 1: you will never return. But if you register using our
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  Speaker 1: CBP home app and leave now, you could be allowed
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: to return legally.
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  Speaker 2: Do what's right. Leave now.
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  Speaker 1: Under President Trump, America's laws, border and families will be protected.
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  Speaker 3: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security.