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RADwood's Art Cervantes Drives While Awesome! · That Car Show

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  I'm super stoked to be involved because I love like curation
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  and, and it's sort of the way I express myself artistically.
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  Again, going back to that thing, I don't draw, I don't paint, but
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  I know how to place cars and I can take some photos, so.
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  This week we're joined by our pal Art Cervantes.
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  Art, of course, is one of the founders of Radwood, and we talk
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  about the big presents they'll have at Car Week here coming up,
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  the appreciating and depreciating cars of the 80s and
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  90's, the origins of Radwood itself, and what it takes to
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  keep putting on these amazing events that they do.
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  This is a long one, but we talk about all sorts of interesting
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  stuff, so stick around. Tell your friends it's that car
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  show. Welcome back to that car show.
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  I'm Lindsay and I'm here with Ryan.
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  And joining us tonight is Art Cervantes from Haggerty, and
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  it's his birthday. So thank you so much for joining
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  us, Art. We're glad to have.
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  You. I'm excited to be here.
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  Yeah. Thank you.
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  Yeah. I'm shocked, but I'm also
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  honored that you would choose to spend your birthday with us.
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  I know. Thank you.
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  It is a waste of it and I'm just kidding.
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  This is great. I mean, you know, I, I, I love
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  to talk cars. I love to talk car culture.
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  I love to interact with fun people.
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  I mean, I've met Lindsay, Lindsay a few times at our shows
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  and this is awesome. I mean, I, I'm, I'm stoked to be
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  here. Fantastic.
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  I mean, and you know that car show, people know it's the only
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  way to celebrate really. So we're going to make it an
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  epic, epic day for you, so. For those.
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  Yeah. So for those that don't know
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  you, you are one of the creators and cofounders of Radwood and
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  you also host the Driving While Awesome podcast and you are
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  nearing 900 episodes on the show.
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  So congratulations on that. That's amazing.
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  And you and I, yeah, you and I met or we first connected when I
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  was contemplating buying an X5 from you, which was I believe
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  SRL Blue. And I decided I didn't have.
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  It turns out that my BMWSUV collection has to wait.
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  But we've stayed in touch and gotten to meet in person at
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  several of the Radwood events, which are, as the name says,
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  super rad. So I'm excited to have you with
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  us and catch up and hear what's been going on.
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  Hey, real quick, before we get into it, we're excited to share
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  some news. All of us here at that car show
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  are thrilled to be working again with Sheffield Watches.
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  Sheffield, of course, is the storied watchmaking brand that
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  was revived a couple years back by our friend Jay Turkbus, and
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  it's seen wild success in both the car and watch enthusiasts
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  communities everywhere, and certainly with that car show
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  crew. Sheffield offers a wide
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  selection of watches, many inspired by the iconic designs
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  of its 1960s dive models, most notably the one Jay's parents
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  gave him in 1970, which ignited his lifelong passion for
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  watches. His Porsche passion would
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  follow. Sheffield watches are high
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  quality, reasonably priced and a great value.
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  There's a reason you can show up to pretty much any car gathering
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  and see lots of Sheffield watches on wrists.
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  Order your Sheffield watch at sheffieldwatches.com.
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  Give them a follow on the gram at Sheffield under score.
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  All sport under score watches. And tell Jay that car show sent
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  you. Awesome.
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  Yeah, yeah. Exciting.
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  And you know, I will say we just had our Redwood Norcal event,
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  which is our big Bay Area event a couple of weekends ago.
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  And the gentleman who purchased my 4.6 IS in esterol blue with
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  Alcantara sports heat interior. That was that was there.
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  And you know, it's, it's always a little bit of a scary thing,
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  right? It's like, hey, how so how's the
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  car? You know, and yeah, he's like,
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  great, but the oil leaks are getting worse and I'm like,
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  yeah, that sounds about right. But you know, and it was and
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  it's a thing. I'll be, you know, this is
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  something I discussed on the show.
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  But you know, I, I did a ton of work on that car.
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  Like, you know, I I had basically all the stuff that
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  goes wrong. I had sorted right and, and
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  preemptively as much as I could and, and then we had really like
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  a couple little oil leaks here and there.
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  But now as you know, those are very complex, lovely vehicles,
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  but they are they've got a lot of places to leak oil from.
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  And, and so I was not surprised, but he did not seem very upset
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  and he was happy with the purchase.
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  Still he says he daily drives it and it it is his dad mobile.
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  Yeah, he has 2 girls and they both go in the back.
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  That is like peak X5 that that that exact model right?
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  Like that was just the best looking one of all.
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  Well, and especially in that color, I mean, that's, that's a
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  large part of why I was so tempted and I knew you had
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  sorted it so well. And I thought, if I'm going to
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  do it, that's the one to do it all.
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  Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, well, yeah, exactly.
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  You don't you, you didn't want to spend 15 grand or whatever I
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  did on it, just getting it up to up to stuff.
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  And you know, this is and this is of course one of the nicest
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  ones. I mean, well, as you know, it's
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  it's a rare color combination and all that stuff too.
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  They think they made like 100 in this color combination or
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  whatever. But I had been looking for a
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  while and when it popped up, I'm like just like yourself, I'm
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  like, I have to get this. So I'm as soon as I saw it pop
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  up, I bought it on cars and bids and I paid like a premium for
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  it. You know, it was a lower mileage
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  car. I think it had like 60 something
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  1000 miles on it. And this is for the listeners.
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  This is a 2003 X5 4.6 IS which has got the really sweet quad
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  Cam V8 that it was actually designed by Alpena and then BMW
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  basically decided because they were experimenting with the idea
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  of like putting out an MSUV product.
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  This is in the early 2000s and they were going to go full tilt
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  on it, but then they decided, you know what, let's let's test
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  out the market here. And so this is effectively the
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  1st MX5, but it wasn't badged as such.
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  And and they instead of developing their own motor for
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  it, they just acquired the Alpena design and produced it
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  themselves. And so it's the same motor as, I
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  don't know, I think it's like they maybe like an E34 Alpena.
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  OK, maybe I can't remember, maybe E39 actually.
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  But anyways, sorry dirty stuff. Also one of the best stances of
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  any SUV ever. It looked just.
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  So good. It looks so good.
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  Yeah, Yeah, it's got three fifth.
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  No. Is it 3 fifteenths in the back
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  or 320 fives? I can't remember.
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  One of those, yeah, they're fat tires.
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  Big white tires, yeah. And the fronts are pretty,
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  pretty decent, but the rears are it's a staggered setup.
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  And yeah, it just gives it such a cool, like muscular look.
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  And I have a story about that. There were, you know, the first
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  time I ever saw one, I was actually, this is kind of small
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  world, you know, full circle stuff.
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  As I had mentioned before the show, I'm I live in Santa
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  Barbara and I was in college down here at the time and I was
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  in my 75 2002 coming into town over a fun Rd. here over the
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  hill. And the car was dialed like
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  suspension wise. I used to auto cross it, but not
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  necessarily a very powerful motor or anything.
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  It just had a good, you know, header Weber or whatever, but
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  like we're talking compared to one of these things, you know,
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  nothing. And so this thing flies up on me
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  is a section of Rd. where there's a passing lane gets in
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  front of me and I'm like, all right, cool.
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  I got I got the downhill section here.
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  I've got my suspension dialed. Let's go, you know, and I was
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  struggling to keep up with this guy like, and I know this road
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  really well. And when we got to the bottom of
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  the hill, I'm like, what the heck is this thing, you know?
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  And I pulled up around it and I saw the little flares and, and
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  it said 4.6 IS on the side. And so ever since then, I've
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  always wanted one. And you know, I finally got one
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  and spent a tremendous amount of money on it.
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  Yeah, well worth it, I'm sure. Well worth.
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  It but did get did get did get to enjoy it and had the
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  experience so I checked. That box, so good, so good.
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  We should probably stop for a second just to for the I think
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  most of the people listening certainly know what Radwood is,
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  but maybe for the handful who don't, what is Radwood all
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  about? Because really, you guys started
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  a movement. Yeah, yeah.
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  So it's a celebration of 80s and 90s like car culture, but we
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  celebrate the lifestyle piece as well across, you know, the
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  board. So it's it's pop culture and you
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  know, we incorporate appeared correct music.
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  We encourage everybody to dress up and there is an award for Rad
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  is dressed and it's a really fun presentation that we do at each
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  event for that. It is a People's Choice driven
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  award. So we incorporate the audience
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  and, you know, it's, it's a fun thing.
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  But yeah, so it is it is really something that we identified,
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  you know, back in like 2016, really maybe even 2015.
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  The the first show was until 2017.
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  But we had all among us, you know, 80s and 90s like sports
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  cars and fun drivers cars. And, you know, the, the those
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  were the cars that we grew up with and that, you know, we less
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  than after when we were in high school and couldn't afford.
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  So we started seeking out, you know, those, those cars.
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  And so we had E36M330M3940 fours, you know, all the, the,
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  the, the typical, you know, sort of like, especially the German
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  side of things. I had a 993 at the time.
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  And, and so we, we decided, well, you know, we like these
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  cars, right? So obviously we love to drive
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  them, we enjoy them. It's A, and there was that key
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  piece of the, of all of it being that it was sort of the perfect
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  balance between like modernity and like analog nests and you
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  know, you, they, they weren't carbureted.
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  They started every time. They had decent AC and, and, and
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  also they weren't super heavy and tech laden and, and, and
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  just, you know, very like enjoyable cars to drive and own
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  and work on. So we decided to put on a rally
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  that was really focused around that through our podcast,
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  through driving well, awesome. That was really a way to like
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  open up the whole rally concept and, and really make it more
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  approachable, especially for cars of this era, because there
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  wasn't a place for our cars. And so from that, you know, we
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  noticed there was enough interest in the, in the driver
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  space, right? We, we, we had a ton of people
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  that came out and it wasn't just 80s and 90s cars, but we opened
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  it up to, right, the majority were.
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  And then we decided, OK, well, if people like to drive these
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  cars and own them, we got to look into celebrating this era,
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  just as, you know, the Goodwood revival, you know, and some of
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  these old school, you know, hot rod shows do right?
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  Like there, it's all about period, correct everything and
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  really immersing yourself in the era.
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  And so, so we decided to to put on, you know, this Radwood
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  event. And the, the first one was
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  really an experiment. It was a bit of a what I call
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  the litmus test. In June of 2017, I booked the
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  Brisbane Marina just in South San Francisco there.
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  And we basically on the podcast said, hey, we're going to throw
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  a boom box on a car and have a food truck bring your 80s and
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  90s cars dressed the part and let's have a good time.
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  And, and we did have an RSVP and registration process.
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  So we were able to track it a bit.
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  We had 150 cars and about 500 people show up.
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  And that was with no marketing and marketing outside of our
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  podcast. And yeah, and at the time, our
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  podcast wasn't like, you know, as big as it is now, right?
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  So it was very regional and it was pretty small.
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  So yeah, we just kind of saw, we, we struck a nerve at the
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  right time, right? We saw, we identified a gap.
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  You know, there was no platform to celebrate this era.
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  And we, we, we kind of like right at the cusp of when we saw
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  that generational shift happening right, of the, we were
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  kind of writing that and we decided to put, put on this
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  experience. And so, yeah, we put on events
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  all over the country now, one in the UK since then.
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  And and we, we actually became part of the Haggerty sort of
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  umbrella of, of events in 2022. And and so we're there now,
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  yeah. That's amazing.
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  Well, I think that's what sets the events apart.
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  Like you said, it is such an overall experience with the
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  music and they close. It is similar to Goodwood in
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  that way. So tell me how you came up with
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  the name. Because it's so fun and it's so
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  evocative and like it tells you what the event is.
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  So I'm curious. What Yeah, it's it's pretty
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  straightforward. Yeah.
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  I mean, it's you know, the the the good would would is there
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  right. Like it was you were inspired by
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  that. And then rad is is like the most
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  like appropriate word of the error, right.
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  Like the most really what do you well, evocative is a good way to
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  put it, but it's just really sort of like definitive, really
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  right of the era. And so that was the thing.
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  It was like thinking, OK, what is the what is the word that
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  represents this era the most? And then it's like portmanteaued
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  with like the wood, you know, piece from Goodwood, since that
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  was the inspiration. It just worked.
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  If you're just listening and you're not watching, you won't
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  see Lindsay in her vintage Hobie T-shirt.
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  And I have stuffed myself into an old polo shirt from high
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  school, which I haven't worn since about 1993.
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  And it smells like 1993. But we're we're suffering from
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  fashion. That's how you.
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  Look, but I love it. Go ahead, Sorry.
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  No, I'm saying I love it and I and I say I gotta say I
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  appreciate it because you did mention that it's, it's warm out
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  there and, and, and, and, and for those who are are on just on
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  the audio channel here, it's a long sleeve and it's, it's a
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  heavier shirt, right? Not a polo shirt.
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  It's a Polo Ralph Lauren long sleeve shirt.
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  Yeah. It's all I had.
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  It's all a. Legitimate.
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  Shirt A lot of memories in this shirt.
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  Yeah, but that being said, I mean, I I noticed that hope you
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  shirt right away too. I mean you're I know you're more
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  comfortable, but it's definitely rad and we love this stuff.
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  I mean, I, I actually one of my favorite things about our shows
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  is, is actually, you know, going to the thrift stores, the head
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  of a show and like seeking stuff out, right?
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  Like I will always wear a radwood hat because I want to
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  rap. And it's also, hey, this is
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  available at the merch tent, right?
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  So it's like. It's a website, I bet.
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  Yeah. Yeah, it's so, you know, I'll do
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  that. But I mean like if shirts or
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  jackets I love like vintage motorsport stuff.
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  And so I, I really seek that stuff out like any.
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  So exactly. Yeah.
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  Like best mic drop, either outfit or car that you've seen
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  at one of your events. Just that.
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  Just nailed. It across all of them, yeah,
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  yeah. Right now.
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  There's been some really, really heavy hitters.
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  I mean, people go all out. I mean, you'll, there's been
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  some excellent Princess like, you know, Prince formerly known
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  and, and, you know, full tilt, right.
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  The makeup, the hair, the, the, the, the, the, the all the
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  what's the other frills or whatever, you know?
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  Yeah, the. Puffy shirt, Whatever, right?
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  Whatever it's called, the pirate shirt, I don't know.
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  Yeah, all of it. But there's been some great ones
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  of those. Yeah.
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  I think personally though, you know, there's, there's been a
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  ton of stuff and very well executed, like especially the
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  people go into the, the, the, the cosplay, like a lot of the
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  artists and musicians of the era, Right.
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  So we've had a lot of Slash and, you know, Madonna and all that.
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  That's cool. But I one that really stuck with
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  me was, is it Lumberg from Bill Lumber lumber from office space?
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  And, and it was so perfect. I mean, he was dialed and he had
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  the same glasses, the tie, the, the and, and, and it's just like
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  such a, it's like most things, right?
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  It's so personal, right? Because it's, it's, it's a movie
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  that I was super into and also just, it represented the era
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  perfectly. It was so it was, it's so great.
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  And so I, I really like that one because especially because
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  that's one that we hadn't seen and I, I believe we haven't
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  actually seen repeated where there's a lot of like the
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  regulars, right? You have the guy dressed up as a
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  Solo cup or with that Dixie cup pattern, whatever it's called,
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  right? You know, things of that nature.
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  But, but yeah, that one really stands out is it's just a
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  hilarious outfit. And he had the the coffee mug
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  and everything too, which was awesome.
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  And I. Would take some effort.
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  Yeah. At Redwood, LA in the fall, I
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  think it was Brad Hanson and his wife Athena dressed up as Gem.
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  And the Yeah. And I think they won.
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  Actually, they looked they did yeah, yeah, they went all out.
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  Yeah. That that was a really, really
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  good like it was a it was also just because it was a band,
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  right, too. And everybody did such a good
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  job, right. Yeah, it was super well
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  deserved. Yeah.
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  Cars is that's, that's trickier because, you know, on average,
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  let's say we get 15 ish, you know, across the board, I'd say
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  average between 10 and 15 participants at each of our of
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  our Radwood radish stressed sort of competition per show.
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  And we have an average of 500 cars at each show.
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  So it gets a little trickier. But, you know, I think that
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  there's, there's some standouts where it's just because it's,
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  it's stuff that we've kind of brought out of the, the, the,
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  you know, the woodwork, if you will, that that just, you know,
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  don't have a place, right. And so I love seeing the really
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  weird stuff like, you know, the one that has come up a ton and
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  I, I feel like I'm, I'm a broken record because it's so exemplary
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  and it's not the geometric convertible Lowrider that
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  everyone that's about to, because I've said it before it,
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  it was, there was a Toyota Tercel all track manual wagon at
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  one of our events that had a pristine plat interior.
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  And that is such a cool car. And it's, it's like super nerdy.
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  It's something that, you know, most people would walk right
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  past and assume it's like some lame grandma car, but but like
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  this, like it, it was, you know, we're talking late 80s Toyota
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  manual transmission, all-wheel drive, selectable all-wheel
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  drive and, and just the coolest, like 80s interior you can
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  imagine, right? Like just it's, it was so cool.
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  And, and my favorite thing about that beyond the car itself is
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  that I'd say about 30 feet away we had a 959 and there were more
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  people around the Tercel wagon than there were around the 959
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  for the entirety of the event. So like, and that's what Rad was
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  about, right? It's like, it's not all about
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  values and the most exclusive and the most, you know, supercar
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  or whatever. Like, it's just, it's, it's the
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  fun stuff. It's the it's also the how is it
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  still here? Yeah, Factor, you know, the fact
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  that someone preserved because. Yeah, sorry.
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  Go ahead. That's it.
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  Because I mean, everyone keeps their Porsche nice or their
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  Corvette nice or different, but people don't, you know, keep
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  their tercells nice, right? It's not as a.
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  Rule, Yeah. No.
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  No, right. No, it's yeah.
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  And that's a really good point. So we have a a time warp award
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  that we made for this exact purpose, right?
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  To, to find these sort of like preserved, you know, pristine
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  examples of cars. But if, if it's, you know, down
• 18:44
  to two cars and we're talking, you know, a sports car versus
• 18:48
  something that shouldn't have been preserved and someone
• 18:50
  appreciated for personal reasons or whatever, that's going to
• 18:53
  win, right? Like there, that's, that's it's
• 18:55
  because just as you said, it's, it's much more likely that
• 18:58
  someone's going to preserve a valuable car.
• 19:00
  Like that's just the standard, right.
• 19:01
  So that, but that being said, though, I mean, we have as a
• 19:04
  matter of fact, you know, we, we've actually, no, we ended up
• 19:07
  giving it a Radisson show at Pacific Northwest, but it was
• 19:10
  really close to getting it was between another car and it was
• 19:13
  either going to get that or time warp because it was the nicest
• 19:17
  E28M5 we had ever seen. But it was also like a Eurospec
• 19:21
  car with like all the good Eurospec stuff.
• 19:23
  But I'm not saying that we're like by default, they're not in
• 19:28
  the running. It's just like if it's, if it's
• 19:30
  against like a Ford Taurus, you know, that's absolutely
• 19:34
  Immaculate with 10,000 miles on it.
• 19:36
  I mean, it's, it's hard to argue, right?
• 19:39
  Yeah, well, I think that's another thing that's really fun
• 19:42
  about the events is the number of times when you see something
• 19:44
  and you kind of stop and go, like, what is the story?
• 19:48
  Like, how is this the thing this person went, yes, I'm preserving
• 19:52
  this. Like I think one of the really
• 19:54
  fun ones at the Radwood, LA last year was the Hot Pink Rabbit,
• 19:59
  which was so. Cute.
• 20:01
  Like, really fun definitely attracted the crowd attention
• 20:06
  and the woman was so proud of it.
• 20:07
  And it was just like, I think that's another part of it is how
• 20:10
  proud people are of their cars. And you can see it in the cars.
• 20:14
  But yeah, it's really the conversation piece, like.
• 20:17
  Super easy and, and, and that's, that's really been part of the
• 20:22
  whole show philosophy since day one, the inclusivity, right.
• 20:25
  And like, of course you want to put on a show and you want to
• 20:28
  have the big highlight vehicles that, you know, the, the, the,
• 20:31
  you know, the 993GT2 or the 964 turbo S and, and of course, you
• 20:37
  know, the de Loreans and the Testarossas and all the, all the
• 20:39
  really typical icons. But and, and some that are
• 20:42
  standouts, right? Like, I mean, I'm proud to say
• 20:44
  that we've had an EB110 before, which I was super stoked on, you
• 20:47
  know, like that's like that's a very rare car and friends like
• 20:50
  choose to come to our event. That's really special.
• 20:52
  You know, we've had all sorts of really cool Group B stuff and,
• 20:56
  you know, that's all great to see.
• 20:59
  And those are my personal like legitimate favorite cars that I
• 21:02
  would want to own, right. But, you know, at the same time,
• 21:05
  like it's it's it's it's kind of like finding those little gems,
• 21:10
  right, That are that are brought out and, and, and especially
• 21:12
  because we've seen it. All right.
• 21:14
  Like I love like learning and, and and discovering new things.
• 21:18
  But yeah, I was going to say something about the LA show with
• 21:21
  the pink. Oh yeah.
• 21:22
  So that woman, she was parked inside of what we call our
• 21:25
  royalty display, right? So that's the curated section of
• 21:28
  the show. Typically, we have a more
• 21:29
  photogenic space for those cars. And it's kind of like your
• 21:32
  showcase parking. They're more spaced out and
• 21:35
  they're not just all packed in, but like that car was parked
• 21:39
  right next to, you know, some 6 figure cars, right?
• 21:41
  And like, and everything in between.
• 21:42
  And like, it's just that it was such an extremely like clean
• 21:46
  example. And it was also a super unique
• 21:48
  color, which I later learned was that I think it was a nail
• 21:51
  Polish color or something. And she like, and she just loved
• 21:54
  the nail Polish color and then had a custom custom paint job
• 21:58
  done on her on her car, the match.
• 22:00
  It was unbelievable. That's incredible.
• 22:03
  My introduction to Radwood was a couple years ago at Amelia.
• 22:06
  And I'll never forget walking in and there were 3 Buick Riata's
• 22:10
  like set up. Like you were walking to walking
• 22:12
  into a GM showroom in 88, right? Like I mean, and there was like
• 22:15
  literature. There was a guy in like all the
• 22:16
  gear and it was just, it was like this lot of memories
• 22:19
  because growing up, you know, in 1988 in Indiana, that was an
• 22:22
  aspirational car. Like, like that was, you know,
• 22:25
  and I hadn't seen one in years. And then to see three of them
• 22:27
  and there was I think 2 convertibles and a coupe and it
• 22:29
  was just, you know, it was just awesome.
• 22:31
  It was, you know, I've been a fan ever since.
• 22:33
  But what kind of cars did you grow up with?
• 22:35
  I think I'm probably older than you.
• 22:37
  So Riata's probably were not on your radar.
• 22:39
  But what, you know, what were your folks driving?
• 22:41
  What were you into as a as a young person?
• 22:44
  Well, my dad was a really big Datsun and Nissan guy, so I grew
• 22:48
  up around a lot of those, but it wasn't necessarily what I
• 22:52
  wanted. I, I was like really into JDM
• 22:57
  stuff like I've always been. And so when I was in high
• 23:00
  school, well, I mean, I, I, I did, I did want A993 Turbo S
• 23:06
  like at the time that was like my favorite car.
• 23:08
  Yeah, yeah. And, and so I've also always
• 23:12
  loved 300SL roadsters. So I was really into that.
• 23:14
  But in terms of like era, like specific stuff, like although
• 23:19
  993 would have been, I was really into like Toyota Supra,
• 23:22
  as you know, the turbo Supra as like everyone is and Integra
• 23:26
  type RI loved and always wanted one and 97 first year is my
• 23:31
  favorite like US spec car. Now it's like impossible, right?
• 23:35
  They're like super wires, yes. Yeah, OK.
• 23:38
  Championship White yeah, yeah. So the 90 sevens are a little
• 23:41
  different. They they have a A1 year only
• 23:44
  front end and also they're lighter.
• 23:47
  They don't have a rear wiper like all of these little like it
• 23:50
  was more focused right before they're like, oh, wait a minute,
• 23:53
  we're going into the US market. We got to really spiff this
• 23:55
  thing up because you know, they people want air conditioning and
• 23:59
  rear wiper and blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 24:01
  But you know, so the the first year is my favorite, but it is
• 24:05
  yeah, championship white and that's the one that I wanted
• 24:07
  then and I still want now and I'm never going to do it
• 24:10
  because, you know, a a nice example is 70 grand minimum,
• 24:13
  right? So, but yeah, I mean, while I
• 24:16
  say never maybe, but yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 24:21
  So I really liked the NSX, which I eventually bought.
• 24:25
  So I have been going down the list and buying all the cars
• 24:27
  that sort of going through and going through the bucket list.
• 24:31
  But yeah, NSX I I really liked all like the like the Subaru
• 24:36
  22B, the Evo, Mitsubishi Evo 5 was my favorite and continues to
• 24:40
  be so. Yeah.
• 24:42
  And I think, you know, I am of maybe because I'm a little
• 24:45
  younger, I don't know if you were playing Gran Turismo, but I
• 24:47
  was heavily inspired, you know, or influenced rather by Gran
• 24:50
  Turismo, right. So it was especially at that
• 24:52
  point, right, because it opened up a whole new world of cars
• 24:55
  that we didn't have here, right. So you see all the forbidden
• 24:58
  fruit and, and I, I was so nerdy about it that I, when I would go
• 25:02
  to San Francisco, just go with my friends and there was a
• 25:04
  Japanese bookstore there. And I would go to Kinokunya
• 25:09
  bookstore and there was a whole section of Japanese like car
• 25:13
  mags. And so I would, you know, at the
• 25:15
  time I didn't speak the language and I would just like get 567 of
• 25:19
  them, you know, and bring them all home.
• 25:20
  And it was all for the photos. And it was, it was so cool, you
• 25:23
  know, to see all those cars. But so, yeah, I was really into
• 25:25
  that. Eventually I I got into euro
• 25:28
  stuff. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:29
  You said at the time you didn't speak Japanese.
• 25:31
  Do you speak Japanese now? Yes.
• 25:33
  Amazing. Did it come from the cars?
• 25:36
  No. Well, I mean, there it was
• 25:38
  influenced by that. Like I mean, I was really into
• 25:40
  like Super GT and at the time I guess it was JGTC, but I really
• 25:45
  like Japanese Motorsports. And so I eventually ended up
• 25:49
  going there for the first time in 2003.
• 25:53
  And you know, the, the short story, long as we like to say,
• 25:58
  is that I was originally doing pre Med and I, I realized that
• 26:02
  very quickly there the difference between an interest
• 26:05
  and a passion as a, as a young man.
• 26:08
  And, and I'm like, you know what?
• 26:09
  I, I like science. I love it.
• 26:10
  I've done fine in science. And I, I, I thought I wanted to
• 26:13
  be a surgeon, but this is not for me, you know, And so I, I
• 26:17
  decided to go travel, ended up in Japan.
• 26:20
  And at that point I'm like, OK, I don't know what I'm going to
• 26:23
  do, but I have to learn this language and I have to move here
• 26:26
  and, and, and at some point, right?
• 26:28
  So, and in order to move here, I need to learn the language.
• 26:31
  And so I, yeah, I ended up changing my, you know, career
• 26:35
  path, if you will. I did Japanese with
• 26:37
  international relations and luckily I was able to apply that
• 26:40
  very quickly as soon as I finished school and and use it
• 26:44
  and at a professional level and spent a ton of time in Japan,
• 26:48
  which was great so. Amazing.
• 26:49
  It's just the neatest place. I remember going.
• 26:52
  I've only been once, but going and seeing like skylines
• 26:54
  everywhere, just, it was like, mind blown, you know?
• 26:57
  And it was probably around 2003 that I went, Yeah.
• 27:01
  And it was just, I just, yeah, it was just everything was
• 27:04
  amazing. It continues to be.
• 27:07
  Yeah, it is. It is my favorite place.
• 27:09
  I mean, I, we just got back. I was there three weeks ago and
• 27:12
  I, I took my, my family there for the first time.
• 27:15
  I mean, my, my wife and I had to travel together.
• 27:18
  But, but we have two girls and we had been waiting for them to
• 27:20
  be old enough, right? To like, really appreciate what
• 27:23
  they were, what it was and, you know, kind of acknowledge what
• 27:26
  was going on. And so.
• 27:28
  So yeah, it was super fun. Yeah, we did two weeks there and
• 27:31
  it was a blast. Awesome.
• 27:32
  Awesome. Well, I'm sure it helps to speak
• 27:34
  the language. That's an amazing.
• 27:37
  I mean, I give you a ton of credit for learning.
• 27:39
  I mean, it's not not easy language.
• 27:41
  Yeah, it's, it's, it's my favorite what one of my, one of
• 27:44
  my favorite experiences, rather sorry, was Japanese one O 1.
• 27:48
  First day in class, right. So we sit down and, you know,
• 27:54
  everyone's kind of settling in and, and it's this little
• 27:56
  Japanese woman at the front. She's very serious and just kind
• 27:59
  of acknowledge everyone and just like not saying anything.
• 28:01
  And then once everyone's seated, the door is closed.
• 28:04
  She says welcome to Japanese one O 1.
• 28:07
  Japanese is the most difficult language in the world.
• 28:09
  So if you're interested in really, truly learning, I
• 28:13
  recommend you stay. If not, you may have a difficult
• 28:16
  time. And so and then about 6 students
• 28:20
  got up and left and then. Well, that's amazing.
• 28:22
  Listen, Yeah, yeah. And so it definitely made it.
• 28:26
  I guess they were like, I kind of want to check it out and
• 28:29
  realized and they're like, and this woman's like, no, this is
• 28:31
  not the place that you just check stuff out.
• 28:33
  You just don't even bother. You know it was.
• 28:35
  More classes should start with a with a phrase like that, I
• 28:38
  think. Or directive like that, yeah.
• 28:40
  Totally. It was quite the disclaimer, but
• 28:42
  I love it. It's so old school, you know,
• 28:43
  it's, it's very classic. So, but yeah, it was, it's, it's
• 28:47
  a very difficult language and I continue to learn every time.
• 28:50
  And you know, when I go there and you know, it's, it's,
• 28:53
  there's a lot, a lot to it. You know, without kind of going
• 28:57
  on too deep of a tangent, there's a lot more.
• 29:00
  There's three writing systems, you know, think of it as 3
• 29:02
  alphabets and you know how many letters are in our alphabet?
• 29:05
  Like thirtyish, I don't know 26. There are one of their writing
• 29:11
  systems. You don't need to know Yeah,
• 29:14
  what exactly? Right.
• 29:16
  But, but just to give you some perspective, though, one of the
• 29:19
  writing systems to, to be able to read like a newspaper, like
• 29:22
  a, a good newspaper fluently, you need to know between 4 and
• 29:27
  5000 characters. And so then it goes from there,
• 29:31
  right? Like it's just it, there's
• 29:32
  20,000 of these. And, and it's the, it's the same
• 29:36
  as the complex Chinese characters that you would see in
• 29:39
  Chinese. So it's very similar.
• 29:41
  And then you have two other writing systems.
• 29:43
  And also grammatically, like the way it works, there's nothing
• 29:46
  like it in the world. It's entirely unique.
• 29:48
  So the way you compose sentences is totally unique.
• 29:51
  You know, there's, they say, what is it like Basque,
• 29:54
  Hungarian and, and Japanese are the three languages that have
• 29:57
  zero, like roots. Like there's no, they're not
• 29:59
  connected to anything. They're entirely independent.
• 30:02
  And so, yeah, it's, it's, it's a wild, yeah.
• 30:05
  But it's, it's, it's super fun for me.
• 30:08
  It's a challenge. And there's also, there's so
• 30:10
  many ways that you can express yourself in Japanese and things
• 30:13
  that you can say that don't exist in any other languages.
• 30:16
  And I'm, I'm a polyglot. And so I, I love just, you know,
• 30:20
  linguistics in general. So anyway, sorry.
• 30:23
  No, no, I, I am as someone who very much isn't, I am so envious
• 30:28
  of, of that, of having that gift.
• 30:30
  I, I, it's, it's my biggest regret, right?
• 30:32
  And, and man, because it opens up the world right as you, as
• 30:37
  you know so. I feel the same way about
• 30:39
  musicians. Like, you know, I don't play any
• 30:41
  instruments and I, I'm very envious.
• 30:44
  And I, I, I love also, this is sort of more of a philosophical
• 30:47
  or just, you know, I guess, yeah, I guess it's a
• 30:49
  philosophical thing in terms of just a philosophy of life.
• 30:52
  And, and I've always been really the type of person that loves to
• 30:56
  absorb as much information about everything is possible.
• 30:59
  And you know, you hear like the whole Jack of all trades thing.
• 31:01
  And like, I really, really envy people who are super hyper
• 31:05
  focused and specialized in one thing because it's like, I don't
• 31:09
  have that right. And I mean, it's, it's so
• 31:11
  awesome to see. And Japan is like that.
• 31:13
  Like it is such, it's a culture of specialization.
• 31:16
  And so, you know, you go to Japan, you go to a ramen place,
• 31:19
  they only do ramen and it's going to be the best.
• 31:22
  You go to a, you know, Curry place, they only do Curry and
• 31:24
  it's going to be the best. And so they just strive to do
• 31:26
  something really, really, really well.
• 31:29
  And, and it's and it's something that's revered there, right?
• 31:32
  Like they they want you to. I mean, it's a traditionally, I
• 31:35
  guess they would, it's something that would be encouraged, right.
• 31:38
  Versus like, I feel like Western culture is like, I try to learn
• 31:41
  as much as you can, which I actually enjoy.
• 31:43
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 31:44
  But music, is that one of those things?
• 31:46
  For me, It's like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a good way to put it,
• 31:51
  you know, JDM, you know, what is it about those 90s Japanese cars
• 31:54
  that's just, you know, they're just so good, like they were.
• 31:59
  They're not like that now. Yeah.
• 32:03
  Yeah, Well, I think it it, it really stems from motorsport,
• 32:07
  right? A lot of it does.
• 32:08
  And and so it's like there, it's it's sort of like getting that
• 32:14
  race car for the street concept and really applying it, right.
• 32:17
  And so there were so many great like fun sports cars and rally
• 32:20
  cars that came out of Japan in that era.
• 32:23
  And, and also they were pretty like innovative, right, with,
• 32:26
  with like the way that they incorporated technology, whether
• 32:29
  it be like rear wheel steer or, or, you know, just like the way
• 32:32
  that they, they had their differential set up and, you
• 32:35
  know, the way that they incorporated like Yaw sensors to
• 32:38
  be able to, you know, control, you know, vehicle dynamics.
• 32:42
  And so they, they, they were really like doing a great job
• 32:45
  with that, you know, but also like with like we, we talked
• 32:48
  about the type R, right, like the purity of a car and like
• 32:51
  just focusing on, on, on really, even if as a loss leader, right,
• 32:55
  where that car didn't make them any money.
• 32:57
  But it like established, you know, Honda and Acura as like a
• 33:02
  just as a technological powerhouse and like a motorsport
• 33:04
  powerhouse, right? And this is all like stuff that
• 33:08
  you see in Porsches, right? It was like seam welded chassis
• 33:10
  with like, you know, the Super high revving over 100 liter per
• 33:15
  horsepower, you know, out of a, this tiny little naturally
• 33:19
  aspirated, you know, 1.6 or 1.8 liter.
• 33:22
  They had the Ek nines over there with the B16B and, and just all
• 33:26
  of it, right? And it just from an engagement
• 33:28
  standpoint and driving dynamic standpoint, like they were just,
• 33:31
  they're so analog and so raw and so commutative and, and that's
• 33:35
  like what makes a good driving car driver's car, right, is like
• 33:39
  understanding what the car is doing and getting that
• 33:41
  information. I had an, an R33 GTR that I sold
• 33:45
  last year and I was really impressed by, by how, how, how
• 33:52
  raw it was like, you know, because like everybody talks
• 33:54
  about, OK, the R32 is the one and then the R33 got really soft
• 33:58
  and then, you know, the R34 is like the cool one because fast
• 34:00
  and furious. But I've always been an R33 guy.
• 34:03
  And so I, I bought one never having driven one, because as
• 34:07
  soon as it became importable, I'm like, I got to have it
• 34:09
  before it gets nuts, right? And so, so I, I got one through,
• 34:12
  through Top Rank and that they found me like exactly what I
• 34:15
  wanted. It was a super, super nice car.
• 34:18
  And just, yeah, I was, I was so impressed by like all of this
• 34:22
  stuff, right? Just like that, this, the
• 34:23
  feedback that you get from that steering wheel, it was akin to
• 34:28
  like an air cooled 9/11, which is insane, right?
• 34:31
  Because we're talking about a motor that has a big
• 34:33
  longitudinally mounted, you know, inline 6, the front.
• 34:36
  And like, it's just not the same thing, right?
• 34:38
  And, and so do you just have such granularity and, and also
• 34:42
  is weighted perfectly? And there's all these little
• 34:45
  details about the driving experience, right?
• 34:48
  Like the intake manifold is on the driver's side, you know, for
• 34:50
  the Japanese. So you get all of that intake
• 34:53
  induction sound right in front of you.
• 34:55
  And so all of that starts to add up, right?
• 34:58
  So there's there's a lot of a lot of reasons, you know, but
• 35:01
  also I think that the Japanese were looking at the rest of the
• 35:06
  world and, and trying to improve on that, right?
• 35:08
  You look at the Lexus LS400 and what they did there, right?
• 35:12
  And so that was a world beating car.
• 35:14
  And they were looking at Mercedes, you know, as the
• 35:15
  standard. And they're like, we like, let's
• 35:18
  take a Mercedes and do do better and prove it in every way,
• 35:21
  right? In, in in their own way.
• 35:22
  And, and so, yeah, they they created some amazing stuff.
• 35:26
  So, yeah, it's, it's a lot of that, but I think the the most
• 35:29
  important thing I think is also who's who's at the helm, right?
• 35:32
  Like you look at Akio Toyota now and, and, and how influential he
• 35:36
  continues to be with, with a Toyota brand and ensuring that
• 35:41
  they still make drivers cars and cars that are engaging and fun,
• 35:45
  most importantly, right. And and not just, you know,
• 35:47
  boring, you know, the vehicle or sorry people transporters.
• 35:51
  Sure. So yeah, yeah, yeah, there's,
• 35:55
  yeah, there's a bunch of other reasons I could, I, I could go
• 35:57
  into and sort of like theorize on.
• 36:00
  Foot, those are no Toyota. Toyota's got 3 sports cars at
• 36:03
  least right now, right? The the the Corolla GR, there's
• 36:05
  the 86 and then the the Supra. The like, well, there's also the
• 36:13
  the other, the other GR Yaris and.
• 36:16
  Corolla well, right, right over other places, but yeah, yeah.
• 36:20
  Yeah, yeah, it's. Just, you know, credit I guess
• 36:22
  is my point. They're trying, you know, and
• 36:25
  and and it's and and that's and it's a it's a battle internally,
• 36:28
  right, like they're trying to optimize for profit as usual,
• 36:30
  right. And what is it that's selling,
• 36:32
  you know, SU VS and hybrids and you know all that.
• 36:35
  And so like to keep that it's sort of it's really keep
• 36:38
  continue to push for that is is commendable.
• 36:40
  And I think also you look at the truck side of things and the TRD
• 36:44
  program is massive, you know, and that that's the same concept
• 36:47
  over there. But yeah, I think it's, it's
• 36:51
  really, you know, like the philosophy of the brand and what
• 36:53
  they're what they're trying to do and, and having the right
• 36:56
  people in place to continue to really push that.
• 36:58
  Because look at where Nissan is now, look at where Mitsubishi
• 37:01
  is. Like that's, that's all it's all
• 37:03
  gone, right. Like, and they were definitely
• 37:05
  like at the top in, in, in the Radwood area.
• 37:08
  I say they were like all of their cars were pretty awesome.
• 37:12
  Well, it's interesting. It ties in with what you were
• 37:13
  saying about the language and just culturally the focus on
• 37:17
  doing, you know, one thing really well.
• 37:19
  And like you were saying the GTR, you were amazed.
• 37:23
  I think that's when you were talking about where it turned
• 37:25
  out the driving experience was pretty incredible and the sort
• 37:31
  of focus on doing one thing kind of shines in every area of the
• 37:34
  culture, it sounds like. I think so, yeah.
• 37:38
  And it's whether it be making the best hybrids or the best
• 37:43
  minivan, which they usually are producing, right, or just sports
• 37:50
  cars and fun, entertaining vehicles for sure.
• 37:53
  Yeah, I heard that. I was, I mean, we'll see what
• 37:57
  happens, but I was kind of disappointed because I heard
• 38:00
  that they were considering putting AV 8 in the in the next
• 38:03
  Supra, which is what they should have done in the 1st place.
• 38:05
  I thought, I'm like, if they would have put the LC-500-V8 in
• 38:09
  the Supra, like how awesome would that been with a manual
• 38:12
  transmission? Like that's, that's everybody
• 38:14
  wants that, Like everybody wants that, right?
• 38:17
  And instead they used a BMW platform and you know, and how
• 38:20
  that went apparently mildly successful and apparently and
• 38:23
  also technically a good car. It's just, you know, not
• 38:27
  necessarily what I want, especially aesthetically, but I
• 38:31
  feel like with, with, with something, something happened
• 38:36
  with V8 supercars where they want like a super in the series.
• 38:39
  And so in order, you have to have AV 8.
• 38:41
  And so we're on the street. Is that the, the, the, the, the
• 38:44
  consumer version may not have AV 8, but but there that's still
• 38:48
  like sort of influx and you know, it's kind of a bumper
• 38:51
  though, if it doesn't, because if you got the V8 supercar
• 38:54
  version, like that's the one that everybody wants to again,
• 38:56
  right, Going back to that so bizarre alignment, right?
• 39:00
  I know that there's emissions and limitations and standards
• 39:03
  that, you know, have to be met and that's but I mean, if you
• 39:06
  look at it just like everybody says, right?
• 39:08
  If Ferrari made manual cars, they'd sell every single one of
• 39:10
  them, but they don't do it right.
• 39:11
  And so in this case, like I think if there's there's no
• 39:16
  reason why why the every V8 manual Supra wouldn't sell.
• 39:20
  I feel like based on what I'm saying in in market trends,
• 39:23
  yeah. You've got an NSX at the moment,
• 39:26
  is that what you said? No, I have one.
• 39:29
  I had. Yeah, I had one when we started
• 39:31
  Bradwood. Yeah.
• 39:31
  So I had an NA1 NSX. And I think you guys will
• 39:35
  appreciate this. I you guys know the movie Pulp
• 39:39
  Fiction, of course. And so the wolf.
• 39:42
  Remember, Harvey Keitel's character drove a silver NSX.
• 39:46
  The best color I had. Yeah, no kidding.
• 39:49
  That's the color I wanted. And so silver and a sex and he
• 39:53
  was the wolf in the movie. That was his name, right?
• 39:56
  That was his code name or whatever.
• 39:57
  And and so I tried to get the wolf like vanity plate, but it
• 40:02
  was already taken. So I I got Ted wolf, TH wolf,
• 40:06
  you know, like in lead speak. So it was kind of nerdy, but you
• 40:09
  know, people acknowledged it and I had the plate.
• 40:12
  And I was dressed as Harvey Keitel for the first Radwood.
• 40:15
  So I, I, I rocked the wolf name badge, I'm sorry, name tag.
• 40:19
  And I had a fake cigarette, you know, with the, with the tuxedo.
• 40:23
  So yeah, it was really cool. But did.
• 40:25
  You set the bar high then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:28
  Yeah. And I was going to say
• 40:30
  ironically though, I was going to say, yeah.
• 40:31
  But ironically, you know, these days, you know, especially like
• 40:35
  once you start really get, once we started to really get going
• 40:38
  rather and actually, you know, scale these events, like, you
• 40:41
  know, being dressed up is, is problematic, right?
• 40:44
  You're like running around and you have two walkie talkies on
• 40:46
  you. And you know what?
• 40:48
  I'll just wear a cool, fun T-shirt.
• 40:50
  If it's cold, I'll rock like a motorsport jacket and throw on a
• 40:53
  Radwood hat. Sure, good.
• 40:54
  You know, But sure. But yeah, as much as I'd like to
• 40:57
  dress up and in a full like, you know, Benetton Schumacher, you
• 41:02
  know, you know, attire, whatever race suit, I'm not going to do
• 41:07
  it you. Have to have a period correct
• 41:09
  walkie talkies and then it's just sort of spirals right it?
• 41:11
  Exactly goes from. Goes from there.
• 41:14
  But you mentioned the NSX and I bring it up only because you
• 41:17
  know, there are very few cars that have I guess increased in
• 41:20
  values quite as much as the those early NSX is.
• 41:22
  I, you know this, they were twenty $30,000 cars, maybe less
• 41:26
  at one time, right for rough one and they're just such wonderful,
• 41:30
  wonderful cars. But you know what's a good one
• 41:32
  Go for now it's it's 6 figures. I mean, yeah, I guess if defined
• 41:37
  good, I think it's more about mileage and condition these
• 41:40
  days, right. Like a a driver which is a car
• 41:43
  with let's say between 70 and 100,000 miles and that isn't
• 41:48
  flawless is going to be you know, 60 to 80 grand.
• 41:53
  And, and if you find something that is like, you know, under
• 41:57
  50,000 miles, especially a later car, like the fixed headlight
• 42:01
  cars and a manual fixed headlight car is 100% a six
• 42:05
  figure coming out. So yeah, I think the cheapest
• 42:09
  I've seen them these days are like in the 50s and they're for
• 42:12
  very high mileage cars. And and ironically, it's like
• 42:16
  it's a Honda, right? It doesn't matter.
• 42:17
  Like it's just, it's not going to deter.
• 42:19
  I mean, it's not going to impact the driving experience.
• 42:22
  It's just that it's, it's kind of money in money out, right?
• 42:24
  It's, it's if, if you're putting money there, you know that
• 42:26
  that's what you're going to get out of it when you go to sell.
• 42:28
  But if you want to own the experience and just, you know,
• 42:31
  have it for a year, like I think I would, I would go for that,
• 42:35
  you know, $50,000 example, because they're, they're
• 42:38
  aluminum chassis, You know, they're, they're, they're,
• 42:40
  they're, they have an aluminum monocoque and they're very, very
• 42:44
  nice cars. And they, they're so well built
• 42:47
  and they're extremely like comfortable to drive too,
• 42:51
  because they're like ergonomically very well designed
• 42:55
  just from your seating position. And I don't know if you've
• 42:57
  driven one or sat in one, but the visibility out of one is
• 43:01
  kind of one of the best of any car in existence.
• 43:04
  Like what? Happened to visibility art.
• 43:06
  Yeah, that. Is seriously, I want to bring
• 43:08
  back right just good visibility. I know, right?
• 43:11
  Well, it's, you know, thick AB and C pillars happen to be for
• 43:15
  safety reasons, right? That's the first thing.
• 43:17
  But but yeah, the NA1 NSX is you sit sort of like kind of upright
• 43:22
  and like you, you the dash is super low.
• 43:26
  So you see over the dash and the front end just drops down.
• 43:29
  So you basically see the road directly in front of you.
• 43:32
  It's it's it's such a cool sensation.
• 43:36
  And yeah, they're they're phenomenal drivers cars.
• 43:39
  The only issue I had with them, with mine in particular, because
• 43:42
  it was AUS spec model, is that and they have really long gears.
• 43:46
  And I think it's, you know, again, U.S. market people drive
• 43:49
  on big, you know, fancy Texas highways, right?
• 43:51
  And so that's and so they made our gearing really tall and in
• 43:55
  Japan they had a different gear set.
• 43:57
  You get different final drive. And so, yeah, so that's the
• 44:00
  move, you know, and I was, I was considering it and then I sold
• 44:04
  it and got something else. But but I think if I were to get
• 44:07
  another one, which isn't out of the question, I think there's
• 44:09
  such awesome cars and they have phenomenal presence.
• 44:13
  Yeah, I would, I would get either the a different final
• 44:17
  drive or get the Japanese gear set or both because that
• 44:21
  especially the type of driving that I like to do.
• 44:23
  And I mean, you said you're in Denver, you know, Lindsay,
• 44:25
  you're in PNW like, you know, tight twisting mountain roads.
• 44:29
  You know, you want to be shifting through the gears,
• 44:31
  right? Like not just sitting in 2nd all
• 44:33
  day. Ironically, you're you're
• 44:35
  speaking to two GT 4 owners. We also suffered.
• 44:38
  Some very long years. So yeah, we.
• 44:40
  Can that's a thing? Yeah.
• 44:41
  Yeah, that's a thing. Yeah.
• 44:43
  Well, our friends over at Shark Works can take care of you.
• 44:46
  Absolutely. Yes, yes, that's gonna be the
• 44:48
  next move for sure. So right on.
• 44:51
  That's a life goal I know well. And you have such great roads in
• 44:53
  Santa Barbara up in the hills to explore.
• 44:56
  So that sounds like that's. A pretty Yep, totally yeah, I
• 45:00
  mean and and I would I would be frustrated driving a stock NSX
• 45:03
  around where I live. It would just it would really
• 45:05
  work because I mean, I have a so one of my current cars I built
• 45:10
  specifically for back Rd. driving and it's like it's it's
• 45:14
  with that in mind, right? It's I have an E30 that has
• 45:17
  AK-24 in it, a Honda motor and and even now I feel like I have
• 45:22
  a three 373 final drive and I'd probably go to a 410.
• 45:26
  Yeah, yeah. Because like I don't really care
• 45:28
  about top speed in a car like that.
• 45:30
  You know, it's, it's, it's all about like, you know, I want to
• 45:32
  be shifting through the gears, enjoying.
• 45:34
  I want to be, you know, Rev matching downshifting.
• 45:37
  And if I shift through 4 gears to be at, you know, 90 miles an
• 45:40
  hour, who cares? Like it's like it's, it's I'm
• 45:43
  not racing anybody. I'm just, it's more about that
• 45:45
  engagement and having a good time.
• 45:47
  Yeah. What do you think's undervalued
• 45:49
  right now are like, what should we all be buying?
• 45:52
  I mean, I've said it before, we should all be out picking up
• 45:54
  like early boxsters, right? Like find the nicest 1 you can
• 45:56
  find, find 10, put them in a barn, right?
• 45:58
  Come back in 20 or 30 years, right?
• 46:02
  What do you think? What's the move?
• 46:04
  Yeah, Yeah, that's a good question.
• 46:06
  I feel like there's a few cars that have have increased in
• 46:10
  value a lot but are kind of settled and have room again and
• 46:15
  one of them I feel is like the E36M3.
• 46:17
  I think it's it like it they kind of blew up and then they
• 46:19
  got soft again and those are such great cars and I know that
• 46:23
  they've always had that stigma of like, you know, the euro ones
• 46:26
  got the cooler motor or whatever, but I'd say that most
• 46:29
  people that say that I've never driven 1 and they're they're so
• 46:33
  fun to drive yes. They do have the biodegradable
• 46:35
  glues in the interior. So you got to like fix your door
• 46:38
  panels and and you know, the, the, the, the, what do you call
• 46:41
  the glove box store is going to sag and you know, but those are
• 46:44
  all, you know, remedy, remedy able things.
• 46:46
  But in terms of like a driving experience and what you get like
• 46:50
  a super silky smooth inline 6. The gearing is perfect on that
• 46:54
  car with the stock setup and just a super enjoyable like, you
• 46:58
  know, not a slow car fast, but like a quick car fast, right?
• 47:00
  It's not going to get you in crazy trouble, but definitely
• 47:03
  really, really, you know, it's just a fun car to drive.
• 47:05
  And I think they're super handsome.
• 47:08
  They come in great colors, They sound good.
• 47:11
  You know, all of they check a lot of boxes.
• 47:12
  I've had a bunch of them and I, and every time I sell my last
• 47:15
  one, I say, all right, I'm done with E46.
• 47:17
  Are you 36 M 30s? And then I'm like, all right,
• 47:19
  I'll get another one, you know, but I've, I've set myself up for
• 47:22
  permanent failure with that though, because I, I said that
• 47:26
  I'm only going to buy one very specific car and there are like
• 47:30
  a handful of them, so I'm never going to find one.
• 47:33
  I want a slick top, a slick top, Techno Violet with Modena
• 47:39
  interior, M345. So I want a sedan manual
• 47:43
  transmission in the purple with that Modena.
• 47:46
  It's like a saddle interior. It's a dark tan or whatever they
• 47:49
  call it. And they're extremely rare.
• 47:53
  I've seen two of them and both of them were not for sale, of
• 47:57
  course, And so I'm I'm just a super nerd about that stuff.
• 48:02
  I feel like having that combination of ingredients would
• 48:05
  absolutely make me want to own it.
• 48:07
  But but I think those are those are those are still undervalued.
• 48:10
  I think the other car that continues to be a very
• 48:13
  undervalued is a 944 turbo. I feel like, you know, 944 turbo
• 48:18
  is is a is a phenomenal car and they're not super expensive.
• 48:22
  Like a nice driver is between 50 and 20 grand still and like it
• 48:26
  is so much car for the price. Like, you know, it is a genuine
• 48:29
  Porsche. You got, you know, really,
• 48:31
  really fantastic handling, driving dynamics and it's cool
• 48:35
  design, all of that. It's it's it's great.
• 48:38
  You know, I think it's it's a fun time.
• 48:40
  The other cars that are sort of my oddball choices would be a
• 48:44
  280ZX turbo. I feel like those are like waste
• 48:48
  slept on. It's such a handsome car.
• 48:49
  They're, they're really cool, very rad, you know, with the
• 48:52
  Radwood era sort of design. I think that's, that's something
• 48:56
  that it continues to be a good buy.
• 48:58
  I think, yes, it's going to be squishy and soft, but like, you
• 49:01
  know, you, that can be remedied and there's, there's, there's
• 49:04
  aftermarket options out there for you.
• 49:07
  But that one, that one, I've also talked about the 300ZX
• 49:10
  turbos, but those are not, not the, not the one that everybody
• 49:14
  wants with the quote UN quote, Lamborghini Diablo headlights,
• 49:17
  right? The the the 890 or 89 meter, but
• 49:21
  the the Z 30 one, which is the one after the the 280ZX and
• 49:27
  those are also really cool. The turbos, the later ones,
• 49:30
  especially they're I think it's a great design, very cool
• 49:33
  interiors. You kick a pretty sick like
• 49:35
  digital dash on them. You know, those are those are a
• 49:38
  few that come to mind right off the top of my.
• 49:40
  Yeah, no, these are good ones. Yeah, that's.
• 49:42
  Yeah. Sorry, I was distracted.
• 49:43
  I think I have a bat in my garage.
• 49:46
  Whoa. All right, the door open.
• 49:48
  Because that are very large bug, I'm going to just let it be and
• 49:52
  we're going to keep going. But I had to figure out what
• 49:54
  what's going on? As long as it doesn't land on
• 49:56
  your neck, right? I know, right?
• 49:58
  Would that be a show it? Would warn you to duck if it
• 50:01
  starts to like get real National Geographic behind you or
• 50:04
  something. Yeah, it's sort of what the hell
• 50:07
  it was. I love it.
• 50:08
  No, it's it's all good. But yeah, hey, you know, yeah,
• 50:12
  Wildlife, what can you do? Well.
• 50:13
  I love this. Is not a lion or a bear or
• 50:15
  something? Yeah, it's a great list and you
• 50:18
  know, and Lindsay, you can speak to the E36 a little bit owning
• 50:21
  1A fordo yourself. And I remember when those cars
• 50:24
  were new, it was the the second coming right on car and driver.
• 50:27
  You know, it was on the cover and deck are yellow.
• 50:29
  But I mean, you love your your E36, right?
• 50:33
  That's yeah. Well, and that's, I think it's
• 50:34
  fun about M3's in general is that they always have, you know,
• 50:37
  the special yellow and the special blue.
• 50:39
  And so the E36 was deck are yellow and esteral blue like
• 50:42
  your X5. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 50:45
  And I have an M345, which I think is so fun, you know, M34
• 50:50
  doors, 5 speed. And I hadn't driven it for a bit
• 50:56
  and I went and test drove another one and I was like, Yep,
• 50:59
  still love them. They're the best.
• 51:00
  Like there is something about them that just sucks you in.
• 51:03
  I think just because they're so fun to drive, it's not like
• 51:08
  they're not precious anymore. Unless you get a Techno Violet
• 51:11
  with a Motena interior, Yeah, you can just enjoy the driving
• 51:16
  experience. Yeah.
• 51:18
  I think, you know, you really look into it and compare it to
• 51:21
  the alternative for that price point and it's like it is such,
• 51:25
  it is a lot of car. It is such a great car.
• 51:27
  And I think they continue to be underappreciated, obviously,
• 51:30
  especially because the the older brother, right, the E30M3 with
• 51:34
  all that motorsport heritage, like, you know, they continue to
• 51:36
  be, you know, I mean, although they've softened significantly,
• 51:39
  like you can find them in the 50s again, 60s where they went
• 51:43
  like, you know, 6 figures for a while.
• 51:45
  And but yeah, and I've had both and I can tell you now that, you
• 51:50
  know, outside of like the aesthetic component, like the
• 51:54
  E30M3 is such an awesome looking car and like, you know, it's
• 51:56
  such an iconic design, but like in terms of the driving
• 52:00
  experience and E36 M 3 is so much better.
• 52:02
  It's like. 3 generations, I feel like of development, right?
• 52:06
  I mean, it was, it was just such an improved car in so many ways,
• 52:10
  right? Totally, yeah, and I have an E30
• 52:11
  in the garage with a high strung little 4 cylinder and I'll I'll
• 52:14
  admit it, you know, it's it's they're awesome cars and it's
• 52:17
  definitely way more. I mean, E36 is much more
• 52:18
  insulated and not as like the raw right, but but in terms of,
• 52:23
  you know, what you get out of it, I think it's a good option,
• 52:25
  especially because as I said, I think that and I'm sorry,
• 52:28
  Lindsay, it doesn't sound like you're selling yours, but the
• 52:31
  market sort of softened on them. They were getting super
• 52:33
  expensive for a second and and they, you know, they consider to
• 52:37
  be if you've got a lightweight or like a super low mileage, you
• 52:39
  know, a rare combo of ingredients there.
• 52:42
  But yeah, I I was trying to think of some other stuff.
• 52:45
  But yeah, there's there's everything else seems to like
• 52:48
  that that I would want at least like has all become too too
• 52:52
  valuable or, or it's just too complex that to really, you
• 52:56
  know, to to enjoy and like, you know, we've we always talk about
• 53:00
  the Audi V eights. Do you remember those?
• 53:02
  Yeah. Oh yeah, the original V8, yeah.
• 53:04
  The boxy sedan, Yeah. And those are those are, those
• 53:07
  are worthless. And they're they're they came
• 53:09
  with a manual transmission. Super cool V8 but fine parts
• 53:13
  yeah you know it's impossible, right yeah.
• 53:15
  And and so there's stuff like that that just it doesn't have a
• 53:18
  market because it's they're just they're they're challenging to.
• 53:21
  Keep on the road, right? Sure, sure.
• 53:24
  But yeah, there's there's a bunch of stuff like that.
• 53:26
  It's interesting, yeah. Those were such cool cars,
• 53:28
  though. I I feel like most of them
• 53:30
  weren't pearlescent. They had those amazing BBS
• 53:32
  wheels, right? I mean, they were just so good.
• 53:34
  But yeah, other cars like that like that just aren't just not
• 53:38
  worth touching in your opinion. Well, yeah, I mean, I think
• 53:41
  especially as you get later, you know, into like the early 2000s
• 53:46
  in particular, right, you, you start to get into some stuff,
• 53:48
  like there's some some AMG products that are really
• 53:51
  awesome. But then, you know, it's it's
• 53:54
  that classic case, even late, like like what is it the E55,
• 53:57
  right? Like a late 90s E 55 like such a
• 54:00
  fantastic car, but you know, they're worth maybe like 10 to
• 54:05
  15 grand for a decent driver, but you're going to put that
• 54:08
  much into it a year in maintenance, right, because
• 54:10
  everything is super expensive and like there's all and stuff
• 54:14
  is going to go wrong. So it's just it's there are cars
• 54:17
  like that where you end up in a situation where I call it like
• 54:20
  the 928 effect, right? For a long time, 920 eights were
• 54:23
  not worth keeping on the road, right?
• 54:24
  Like the people just kind of when when the first bill came
• 54:27
  in, the first big bill outside of a, you know, warranty or
• 54:30
  whatever came in, they're like, all right, it's going in the
• 54:32
  driveway under a tarp. We'll get to it eventually.
• 54:34
  And they stayed that way for 20-30 years.
• 54:37
  And so I feel like and eventually, you know, things
• 54:40
  have come full circle. And as we talk about this sort
• 54:42
  of generational shift and people seeking those out now and, you
• 54:45
  know, wanting to like, you know, because there's nostalgia, their
• 54:47
  stories, people are willing to invest and actually get them
• 54:50
  back on the road. And now you see a ton of really
• 54:52
  nice 920 eights and most of them are very valuable because people
• 54:55
  invested the money to, you know, to to to get them back into tip
• 54:59
  top shape. So, yeah.
• 55:01
  So you find stuff like that. I mean, I'm sorry.
• 55:04
  Good. I want to say the the is what's
• 55:06
  what was the SLS like of the, you know, through 89 or whatever
• 55:10
  what? Was that well the R1 O seven?
• 55:12
  Yeah, that's convertible. Yes, I feel like those are still
• 55:15
  really undervalued like that. Those are a hell of a lot of
• 55:17
  car, but but you know, maybe not quite with the issues that the
• 55:19
  928 have, but I don't know, man. I grew up with weird science and
• 55:23
  risky business and the 928 is just I mean, that's the car for
• 55:27
  me of that era and. Yeah, yeah.
• 55:29
  It's funny that you mentioned the Mercedes.
• 55:32
  So I had a car that is it's it's so funny, like it sort of made
• 55:36
  the rounds like I bought and sold among friends, you know,
• 55:39
  multiple times and we kind of kept it among us.
• 55:41
  But it was a euro spec 500SEC Mercedes.
• 55:45
  So it's, you know, the pillarless coup hardtop.
• 55:49
  And this was a euro spec car. So I had the tight little
• 55:51
  bumpers and it had the the beefy euro spec 500 power.
• 55:54
  Sorry, A5 liter high compression motor and and a bunch of AMG
• 55:59
  bits from the era that were dealer installed and super cool
• 56:02
  car that is a very undervalued car.
• 56:06
  So SEC's in general. Yeah, yeah, they're like just
• 56:09
  amazing Teutonic, like, you know, so well made and like
• 56:13
  they're just beautiful cars. They have so much presence.
• 56:16
  It's a car that I could drive up to any Ritz and you know, valley
• 56:19
  at the front and no one questions it.
• 56:21
  Yes and it's just and it's just like really cool classic looking
• 56:26
  and and so this one in particular had you know custom
• 56:30
  BBS Rs wheels installed at the dealer before they shipped it
• 56:33
  over AMG like you know lowered suspension on it and you know
• 56:38
  supposedly AMG cams, but I never opened it up.
• 56:41
  You know, but it, it, it was a fast car and I, I, I sold it to
• 56:46
  a friend and then I think I want to say it's sold on BAT for like
• 56:49
  15 grand, you know, not too long ago and, and this or maybe on
• 56:54
  cars and bids, but this is a car again, we're talking about a car
• 56:59
  that has so much presence that you could take anywhere, you
• 57:01
  know, and not, and not no one's going to bat an eye.
• 57:03
  And, and they drive that way too.
• 57:05
  They drive the way they look. They're so tight and just
• 57:07
  they're, they're so like they're Autobahn bargers, right?
• 57:11
  They're specifically designed to like cruise at high speed and
• 57:13
  like a big GT car like that very underrated.
• 57:17
  They kept they have some expensive bills, but like
• 57:20
  overall and it's you know, they're pretty, pretty reliable
• 57:24
  and and there are some really nice examples out there because
• 57:27
  you know, grandma or grandpa like bought 1 new and then
• 57:30
  didn't drive it very much. And you'll find them out there
• 57:33
  with that been they've been sitting, which means you got to
• 57:35
  get through the rubber and do all that.
• 57:36
  Sure, right. But you know, overall though, I
• 57:39
  think they're they're still very cheap considering how awesome
• 57:42
  they are. Yeah.
• 57:43
  I mean they didn't make a ton of those I think when they were new
• 57:45
  or didn't import a ton. And weren't they like 200 grand
• 57:48
  in like 80s money when they were?
• 57:49
  New, I wouldn't be surprised, yeah, expensive, right?
• 57:51
  Yeah, just and a lot of them got all, you know, they got the the
• 57:55
  the cocaine cowboy treatment too, right.
• 57:57
  Like they went, you know, there's some goal wing versions
• 58:00
  out there and crazy white interiors and all the buttons
• 58:03
  and you know, there's yeah, they were pretty funky.
• 58:06
  But yeah, that's one that stands out for.
• 58:08
  Sure. There was 1 I think at Amelia
• 58:11
  when I was there that had I don't was owned by some chic and
• 58:13
  it had like a golden Thunderbird shifter and a like a 40 or 50
• 58:17
  band graphic equalizer. Like a like it's a like a piano,
• 58:20
  you know, across the the dash. Just epic, just epic.
• 58:23
  That's that's, yeah. Absolutely.
• 58:25
  That stuff. No, it's great.
• 58:26
  And we love to see that stuff. Yeah, it's great.
• 58:28
  Yeah. Do you have time for a couple of
• 58:31
  questions from Instagram? Absolutely.
• 58:35
  So Shacor Shacor CHAYCORE asks what have been the biggest
• 58:42
  challenges with Radwood events, both at the beginning and then
• 58:45
  now? That's a good question.
• 58:50
  There's the the first thing would be that, you know, we
• 58:55
  initially started with a very small group of people, right?
• 58:59
  And, and we wanted to do big things, so which required a
• 59:03
  tremendous amount of commitment and a lot of, you know, you
• 59:06
  know, just a lot of bootstrap work seven days a week and, and,
• 59:10
  and do it, you know, just start up stuff, right, like that you
• 59:13
  find in small organizations. And so once we saw that there
• 59:17
  was enough interest, you know, we wanted to keep that momentum
• 59:19
  going, right, because as soon as you have, we make a splash, it's
• 59:22
  very easy to fade away if you don't keep that, you know, and
• 59:25
  keep that momentum. So, so we started traveling a
• 59:28
  lot and doing events all over the country.
• 59:30
  And, and a part of that really with putting events on like
• 59:34
  this, the challenge is, is you know, in finding interesting
• 59:38
  venues is really important for me.
• 59:40
  And like, you know, one of the things that from day one that we
• 59:44
  we talked about is like creating a space that's unique and that
• 59:47
  it isn't just another car show, right?
• 59:49
  And so all of our venues have interesting backdrops and or
• 59:53
  interesting sort of like opportunities for vehicle
• 59:56
  placement and creating kind of a unique ambiance around the show.
• 1:00:00
  And you know, we talked about some curation things of that
• 1:00:03
  nature. And so all of that is super
• 1:00:05
  important. And so it's challenging to find
• 1:00:09
  a venue that is interesting like that and is photogenic, but also
• 1:00:13
  that. Can, you know, have several 1000
• 1:00:16
  people on site that there's, you know, spectator parking
• 1:00:19
  available that, you know, and then also you get the right
• 1:00:21
  permitting for it because, you know, we do everything legit,
• 1:00:24
  right? So like the city needs to
• 1:00:26
  approve it. The fire, you know, needs to be
• 1:00:27
  done. All of those things need to be
• 1:00:29
  done correctly. And so doing that while
• 1:00:32
  simultaneously putting on a good experience is, is challenging.
• 1:00:35
  And so that was something that was a challenge early on and
• 1:00:39
  continued to be, you know, after the fact.
• 1:00:41
  But you know that that that was the the first one.
• 1:00:45
  What was the second question? It just, you know, a challenge
• 1:00:49
  is now, I mean, maybe it was a huge relief when you sold the
• 1:00:51
  Haggerty, right? Because a lot of that was off
• 1:00:53
  your own shoulders, right? I mean, yeah, that that was that
• 1:00:56
  was part of the reason, right as we wanted to scale the business,
• 1:00:59
  like we wanted to have more support.
• 1:01:01
  And, you know, being part of the Haggerty kind of umbrella or
• 1:01:05
  under rather the Haggerty umbrella is, is it really kind
• 1:01:09
  of plugs you into a very wide and large network of of people
• 1:01:14
  and and organizations, right. So that gives you a lot, you
• 1:01:17
  know, opens up a lot more opportunity.
• 1:01:19
  Obviously, you know, we want the staffing support as well and all
• 1:01:22
  of the things that come with that.
• 1:01:23
  But but that's that's a big one. And so I think, you know, the
• 1:01:28
  challenge now is, is you know, I'll, I'll be very frank, I
• 1:01:31
  think, you know, it is a business, right?
• 1:01:34
  And so, you know, how do you balance that, you know, sort of
• 1:01:37
  creative freedom and creating a fun experience while also being
• 1:01:41
  profitable, right? And that's really important
• 1:01:43
  because that's that's what it's all about ultimately, right?
• 1:01:45
  And so, and it's very easy to just basically say, all right,
• 1:01:49
  let's just go with something basic.
• 1:01:51
  We can put on an insurance anywhere and you know, and
• 1:01:54
  ultimately like, you know, you know, really get the beefiest
• 1:01:57
  margin possible, right? And so for all things and, and,
• 1:02:01
  and it's, it's, it's a challenge, right, to like, try
• 1:02:04
  to like balance all of that. And so that's very front of mine
• 1:02:07
  for me. And I, I, I'm constantly trying
• 1:02:09
  to figure out ways to do that. And, and there's, you know,
• 1:02:11
  being, being part of Haggerty is beneficial.
• 1:02:13
  And in many ways that because of the how it's plugged in and all
• 1:02:17
  the different business units and just supporting all of the
• 1:02:19
  different Haggerty properties is also helpful.
• 1:02:21
  And so there's all of those things, but you know, because,
• 1:02:25
  you know, quite frankly, like the goal here is, you know, with
• 1:02:27
  this is this is the next generation of automotive
• 1:02:29
  enthusiasts, right? And so, and this culture and
• 1:02:32
  these people are very valuable to to to basically, you know,
• 1:02:36
  future proof the business, right?
• 1:02:38
  You know, I mean, historically we have a lot of the old school
• 1:02:40
  shows, right? I mean, and everybody talks
• 1:02:42
  about this, you know, like a lot of the cars that were super
• 1:02:44
  valuable 20 years ago are now not right?
• 1:02:47
  And it's because of the interest.
• 1:02:48
  And so I think it's important to to really be able to find that
• 1:02:52
  balance, right of like, you know, and it's all good stuff,
• 1:02:55
  right? Like, you know, we all we want
• 1:02:56
  to do good for our parent company and we want to, we want
• 1:03:00
  to do great for our attendees and our participants in our
• 1:03:03
  community. And so that's without being too
• 1:03:05
  specific like that's, that's the the current challenge I'd say.
• 1:03:09
  I mean, I give you a ton of credit because I mean, I feel
• 1:03:12
  like, you know, you've still got the magic right.
• 1:03:14
  I mean you, you know, you've got the the cred still, and I think
• 1:03:17
  that's the toughest thing to retain, right, doing anything
• 1:03:20
  and so job well done, not blowing smoke.
• 1:03:22
  I mean, it's it's rad woods as cool, as good good as it's ever
• 1:03:25
  been, I think and and awesome. Thank you.
• 1:03:27
  Right. I mean, it's, it's awesome,
• 1:03:29
  continues to grow. And.
• 1:03:31
  Yeah. Car Week.
• 1:03:32
  Yeah, Yeah. This is like this is like living
• 1:03:35
  the dream. No, and that's the thing too is
• 1:03:38
  that having the right people involved still, right.
• 1:03:40
  And so you know, we have so it's it's three of us from the
• 1:03:44
  original Co founders that are still involved, like I'm the
• 1:03:47
  director, Warren Madsen is is heads up operations, right.
• 1:03:51
  So he's on that side of things. And then we work very closely
• 1:03:54
  together. And then Lane is, is still, you
• 1:03:57
  know, managing our social media and doing some creative work.
• 1:03:59
  And so that keeps things consistent and we work really
• 1:04:02
  well together. And so we all, we all, we've
• 1:04:04
  been doing this since day one together.
• 1:04:05
  So the fact that we're able to continue that is super crucial,
• 1:04:08
  right? Because that's really part of
• 1:04:10
  the whole identity of the brand and how you know, how what type
• 1:04:14
  of experience we put on and what type of experience this should
• 1:04:17
  be in the future, right? And luckily, because of the
• 1:04:21
  liberty that we've been given, you know, as part of Agrity,
• 1:04:24
  it's, it's been very successful still.
• 1:04:27
  That's awesome. Well, and Ryan mentioned Car
• 1:04:29
  week, I know that's top of mind for all of us getting excited.
• 1:04:32
  So what can we look forward to from Radwood and like motor
• 1:04:37
  locks and you know, what can we expect?
• 1:04:40
  Yeah, yeah. So, so we're going to have our
• 1:04:43
  our own curated display. It's going to be a 50 car
• 1:04:46
  Radwood era 50 car display, have an event called the Paddock.
• 1:04:49
  This is an inaugural event at the Black Horse Bayonet, which
• 1:04:53
  is historically the place that they hold the concourse.
• 1:04:55
  So Italiano. And so it's going to be great.
• 1:04:58
  You know, we're we're going to have a beautiful, you know,
• 1:05:01
  scenic spot on the lawn overlooking the ocean.
• 1:05:04
  There's going to be 15 food trucks there, all sorts of other
• 1:05:07
  cars there as well, beyond ours. And we're going to have, you
• 1:05:10
  know, our our resident DJ is going to be spinning the on the
• 1:05:13
  ones and twos within our space and we're encouraging people to
• 1:05:16
  dress up still. And so so it's going to be a
• 1:05:18
  great time. I mean, good food, great venue
• 1:05:21
  and you know, a bunch of really rad cars.
• 1:05:23
  We have 50 really, really nice, like hand picked submission.
• 1:05:27
  So we're going to be there first.
• 1:05:29
  That's gonna, I'm sorry, not first.
• 1:05:31
  That's that's the one sort of standalone thing that we're
• 1:05:33
  doing. That's going to be on Friday, on
• 1:05:36
  on August 15th. That's a three to 8:00 PM.
• 1:05:38
  It's an evening show, which is pretty cool.
• 1:05:41
  And then on Wednesday, so going back in time now 88 miles an
• 1:05:44
  hour hopefully, yeah, we're going to be at Motor Lux.
• 1:05:50
  And so we, we are actually are not putting on a Radwood event
• 1:05:53
  per SE there, you know, being part of the Haggerty events team
• 1:05:57
  is that we also assist with other events, right, Because
• 1:06:00
  Haggerty owns quite a few events including the Concours and
• 1:06:03
  things like that. So we we are on the Radwood guys
• 1:06:08
  are we do the vehicle selection and placement and so curation of
• 1:06:11
  the cars and manage all of that on site.
• 1:06:14
  So if you go to the Motor Lux event, which is a phenomenal
• 1:06:17
  party, historically it was called the Jet Center party.
• 1:06:20
  It's at the Monterey airport. It is like Michelin star chefs,
• 1:06:24
  all of foods, all of these food stations, curated displays of
• 1:06:27
  cars among airplanes as well. And we take over some hangers.
• 1:06:31
  It's it's really cool. And that's like, I'm super
• 1:06:33
  stoked to be involved with that because I love curation and it's
• 1:06:36
  sort of the way I express myself artistically.
• 1:06:38
  Again, going back to that thing, I don't draw it on paint, but I
• 1:06:42
  know how to place cars and I can take some photos.
• 1:06:44
  Yeah, yeah. So that's always fun.
• 1:06:46
  For sure, yeah. Yeah, you can curate a mean car
• 1:06:50
  event. I can curate a mean car event.
• 1:06:52
  Yeah, exactly. So and and yeah, so we're going
• 1:06:55
  to be there and that's going to be a ton of fun.
• 1:06:57
  That's on the Wednesday and evening event as well.
• 1:07:00
  There's some pretty heavy hidden cars that we're going to have
• 1:07:03
  there. We have a couple of F 40s.
• 1:07:05
  We have several roofs, including a one of one roof Ctr. yellow
• 1:07:10
  bird slap nose, only slap nose they made.
• 1:07:15
  And there's going to be some other stuff including that
• 1:07:19
  Penske specific Porsche 963I believe they're calling it, you
• 1:07:24
  know, that that one off that was debuted at Goodwood.
• 1:07:27
  This is going to be it's AUS debut.
• 1:07:30
  So it's sort of like an, it looks like an LMP, like one
• 1:07:33
  prototype, but it's it's it's actually a silver one, right?
• 1:07:37
  It's a Porsche built the silver one.
• 1:07:38
  Yeah, yeah, it's a Porsche built race car for the street, if you
• 1:07:42
  will. We're going to have that and
• 1:07:44
  then a ton of other stuff. I mean, just all of the anything
• 1:07:47
  you can imagine. So a lot of Radwood era, you
• 1:07:49
  know, you know, heavy hitting cars and but also this you're
• 1:07:53
  going to see some pre war, you know, blower Bentleys and and
• 1:07:57
  modern supercars, you know, and everything in between.
• 1:08:00
  So yeah, it's going to be a really good time.
• 1:08:02
  That's that's a super fun show. I'm I'm excited to be a part of
• 1:08:05
  it again this year. We've been doing it three years
• 1:08:07
  and you know, it's been a blast every single time.
• 1:08:10
  So that's that's the other spot we're going to be at with
• 1:08:13
  through the driving while awesome side of things.
• 1:08:15
  This is an event that we're putting on specifically for our
• 1:08:18
  patrons on Patreon and we're going to do a curated little
• 1:08:22
  kind of hang slash drive, if you will.
• 1:08:25
  So we're going to meet up with our group and then hang out with
• 1:08:28
  our sort of with our our listeners and then go, go on a
• 1:08:32
  drive and and spectate the what do you call it?
• 1:08:35
  The the Pebble Beach, the tour, yes, exactly down the coast
• 1:08:41
  there. So we did that last year and it
• 1:08:43
  was a ton of fun. There's going to be some food
• 1:08:45
  there and then that's sort of like the the end of the the
• 1:08:49
  major commitments. I might be doing some stuff at
• 1:08:51
  the track on. Saturday, but.
• 1:08:55
  That's it. Yeah.
• 1:08:56
  Yeah. But it's it's fun to be back at
• 1:08:59
  Laguna. Sorry at a car week with with a
• 1:09:02
  rad would have been because we've done a couple in the past
• 1:09:04
  and this one should be really fun too.
• 1:09:06
  Well, that's really exciting to have like the big new paddock
• 1:09:11
  event. That's a really big deal.
• 1:09:12
  Congratulations, Yeah. Yeah, thanks.
• 1:09:15
  Yeah, it's cool. I mean, it's it's it's I think
• 1:09:18
  an interesting concept, right. It's because, you know,
• 1:09:21
  everything's pretty expensive in, in Monterey, right?
• 1:09:24
  And, and, and there are some premier events that are, you
• 1:09:27
  know, even more so than just expensive and they're extremely
• 1:09:31
  exclusive and impossible to get into.
• 1:09:33
  And so that are on lawns and they do amazing stuff.
• 1:09:36
  And they're also events that I want to be a part of.
• 1:09:39
  But in this case, you know, it's something that's a little more
• 1:09:41
  approachable, you know, 100 ish dollars, but you get a lot of
• 1:09:45
  that vibe, right. So you're you're on on a golf
• 1:09:47
  course overlooking the ocean with good food and beautiful
• 1:09:51
  cars and great people. So yeah, it should be a good
• 1:09:53
  time. Even going to let us 2IN, so
• 1:09:55
  thank you. Yeah.
• 1:09:57
  We'll see you there and and make sure you bring your polo.
• 1:10:01
  Yes, period. Correct.
• 1:10:01
  Something with short sleeves right for.
• 1:10:03
  Sure. Yeah.
• 1:10:04
  So although in Monterey, you want to do the short sleeves
• 1:10:06
  under with a layer on title. Yeah, that's.
• 1:10:09
  Right. That's right.
• 1:10:10
  Yeah, cuz you never know what to expect there.
• 1:10:12
  It could be 40° and foggy or it could be 75 and sunny so.
• 1:10:17
  Yeah, absolutely. You might appreciate.
• 1:10:19
  It amazing either way. Hello.
• 1:10:21
  While we're there. There you go.
• 1:10:23
  Yeah, totally. Art, do you have time for one
• 1:10:25
  more question? Sure.
• 1:10:26
  From Instagram, it's the photographer's garage.
• 1:10:29
  Thank you. What city or market has Radwood
• 1:10:32
  not been to but would love to? That's a great question.
• 1:10:38
  This is a selfish one because Haggerty does not have a plan to
• 1:10:43
  enter this market. But I still want to do Japan.
• 1:10:49
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:10:50
  So I, I still would love to do Japan.
• 1:10:52
  Yeah. We, we experimented with the
• 1:10:54
  with the idea and it's challenging, it's tricky.
• 1:10:57
  It's a the way that, you know, just from doing business in
• 1:11:00
  Japan for so long, like you really got a breadcrumb your way
• 1:11:04
  to sort of introducing concepts and, you know, products to
• 1:11:08
  Japan. Like you just can't show up and
• 1:11:09
  be like, here's my new this buy it.
• 1:11:12
  Like everyone's like very like kind of slow to everything has
• 1:11:16
  to, you know, there's a method like there people are sort of
• 1:11:19
  reserved initially and and then eventually once they they're
• 1:11:22
  into it, they're like into it 150% right.
• 1:11:25
  So yeah, exactly. So I have some ideas around that
• 1:11:29
  and how to do that, but it's just, you know, again, like this
• 1:11:32
  is Bradwood is no longer mine, so to speak, or ours, right.
• 1:11:36
  It's like, you know, so I it is, it wouldn't be in the interest
• 1:11:40
  of the rest of the org, but like that is something that I would
• 1:11:43
  love to do still because there's some great venues.
• 1:11:46
  There's I mean, the coolest cars there because there's all the
• 1:11:49
  forbidden fruit that we didn't get here, right?
• 1:11:51
  Not just JDM like all the Europeans.
• 1:11:53
  Yeah. That's too so because they have
• 1:11:55
  access to all of that that we didn't see here.
• 1:11:57
  So as a matter of fact, you know, I'm going to throw a
• 1:12:00
  number out there, but I'd say 75 to 80% of all of the really cool
• 1:12:03
  Euro like AMG, Alpena, you know, Rs Carreras, the 96 fours, a lot
• 1:12:09
  of those are coming from Japan. And so because the market was
• 1:12:12
  booming there, right? And so they, they, they, they
• 1:12:14
  have a ton of that stuff there still.
• 1:12:16
  And yeah, I mean, Speaking of values and stuff going nuts, I
• 1:12:20
  remember being there, I went to a place, it was called LMP cars
• 1:12:24
  Oyama and Oyama. And I always walk past it
• 1:12:28
  whenever I was in Tokyo just to see what they had in the
• 1:12:30
  showroom because it was always the coolest stuff.
• 1:12:33
  And I walked up to it one day and there was a, it was a, it
• 1:12:37
  was a turbo Carrera. So this was like a 76, you know,
• 1:12:41
  this is an early car and three liter car.
• 1:12:44
  It's got the really cool little rear spoiler.
• 1:12:46
  It was and it was a chocolate brown car.
• 1:12:48
  It was like it was so rad lowered on gold BBS wheels.
• 1:12:52
  I'll never forget it. And this was in this was in 2013
• 1:12:56
  and they wanted 40 grand for it. And I was like, and I remember
• 1:13:00
  thinking like, can I make this work?
• 1:13:03
  Like, you know, and, and now that car's you know, you know, 6
• 1:13:07
  figures, easy 200 grand, you know, who knows whatever.
• 1:13:10
  And yeah, there was a lot of stuff there.
• 1:13:12
  People already caught on though, like I mean, I was way too late
• 1:13:14
  to the game. Like by the time I was actually
• 1:13:16
  in a position to buy some cars and sell them, like, they were
• 1:13:18
  already very valuable like, and that's hence why you see a lot
• 1:13:21
  of these cars being imported from there.
• 1:13:23
  Well, I would love to see a Japan, Japanese Radwood show.
• 1:13:27
  I think that would be I just think that would be amazing.
• 1:13:30
  And it sounds like you do too. So we'll we'll look for that in
• 1:13:33
  time. And and there's so much we
• 1:13:35
  didn't get to talk about tonight.
• 1:13:36
  The Driving Well Awesome podcast.
• 1:13:38
  We can talk about anything. All right, you got a few more
• 1:13:40
  minutes. Okay.
• 1:13:41
  I'm not in a rush. When you said 900 episodes for
• 1:13:44
  driving while awesome, like that's a huge achievement.
• 1:13:48
  I mean, just doing anything with other people 900 times is ask me
• 1:13:53
  how I know I'm very, very impressive.
• 1:13:56
  I mean, what's your secret? Yeah, you know, it's, it's, it
• 1:14:00
  is pretty, pretty amazing, right?
• 1:14:02
  Because in the time that we've been doing it, we've seen so
• 1:14:05
  many podcasts come and go. You know, it's, it's really
• 1:14:08
  hard, especially, you know, because this, our podcast in
• 1:14:13
  particular is, is not, I mean that we do make some money, but
• 1:14:17
  it's not the main focus, right? It's literally an outlet for us
• 1:14:19
  to literally meet up and, you know, and talk cars and drink
• 1:14:24
  some beers and, and, you know, and, and just kind of keep in
• 1:14:26
  touch, right. And like, and, and luckily that
• 1:14:28
  concept, you know, resonated with a lot of people and, and
• 1:14:32
  continues to do so. And so we just keep it going.
• 1:14:35
  There's we do do our rallies, which is a a big part of the
• 1:14:39
  podcast sort of ecosystem. But you know, I I'll, I'll admit
• 1:14:43
  that I came in a year after it was started because it was
• 1:14:46
  started 10 years ago by the three original Co founders.
• 1:14:49
  And I came in a year after that. So I've been on for about 9 now.
• 1:14:52
  And, and so it, it, it's yeah, it's been awesome.
• 1:14:56
  And I think a lot of it has to do with just like just being
• 1:15:00
  good friends, right? And it's like, and, and, and
• 1:15:02
  we've rarely rarely, rarely argue.
• 1:15:05
  Like, I mean, it's, it's you know, of course there's things
• 1:15:08
  can get heated at times with certain discussions.
• 1:15:10
  Never like a thing that is like, you know, to the point where
• 1:15:13
  like I'm walking away or anyway, it's just like, yeah, just like
• 1:15:17
  being very. We're also, it's kind of a
• 1:15:21
  perfect balance of having sort of like key tenants or just a
• 1:15:27
  foundation of like of what we appreciate.
• 1:15:30
  And I in those things being sort of like true across all three of
• 1:15:34
  us, right? Like we're all into like, you
• 1:15:36
  know, we love to drive our cars. We all love manual
• 1:15:39
  transmissions. What we we love, you know, also
• 1:15:42
  we're pretty easygoing, we're pretty open minded, you know,
• 1:15:45
  and we're like those things are sort of at the core of it,
• 1:15:48
  right? And we're legitimately all three
• 1:15:50
  of us are very, very hardcore car guys.
• 1:15:53
  So like, you know, we, we love this stuff.
• 1:15:55
  We're super nerdy about it. That helps.
• 1:15:57
  And then the rest of it is like pretty subjective, right?
• 1:16:00
  Like we have like I'm obviously into JDM stuff like, you know, I
• 1:16:03
  like certain things I look out of my car and you know, certain
• 1:16:07
  maybe aesthetic choices that they may not be into and vice
• 1:16:11
  versa. And like, and that's fine,
• 1:16:12
  right? We each kind of have our own
• 1:16:14
  thing going and like, and we're, we're also, we very, we take
• 1:16:20
  kind of like a comical approach to it, right?
• 1:16:21
  It's like we're pretty laid back with this whole thing.
• 1:16:23
  It's like we don't take ourselves too seriously and
• 1:16:26
  like, and I think that that having that kind of comedic
• 1:16:29
  element, like people like to write.
• 1:16:31
  And so it keeps things fun and and and and light hearted.
• 1:16:35
  Not always, but for the most part, right?
• 1:16:37
  It's this is all to have a good time, right?
• 1:16:40
  That's why we do this. This is it's literally like our
• 1:16:45
  outlet for like joy, you know, like that's what it's what we do
• 1:16:49
  to. There you go.
• 1:16:50
  Part of like the whole driving car culture thing, right.
• 1:16:53
  And so luckily we're all into it enough to where it just kind of
• 1:16:57
  has continued going. And, and also having, you know,
• 1:16:59
  Lane, who's the guy who's been sort of like the engineer behind
• 1:17:02
  the scenes, like keeping everything, you know, pumping
• 1:17:05
  and like he just has a really good system and, and is, you
• 1:17:08
  know, and, and just, and, and pushes this stuff out there and
• 1:17:11
  on a weekly basis for a while. We're doing 2 episodes a week
• 1:17:14
  and you know, it's, it's, it's a lot of work.
• 1:17:17
  That's a lot of people have no idea how much work upon.
• 1:17:21
  Yeah, it's a it's. Give it to you for free.
• 1:17:24
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:17:26
  And, and it's a yeah, it takes just commitment, dedication,
• 1:17:30
  right. Like, you know, we all have
• 1:17:31
  done, you know, our part in, in, in that like I used to commute,
• 1:17:35
  like I used to drive an hour and change every week to record from
• 1:17:39
  San Francisco to Santa Cruz, which our studio is.
• 1:17:41
  And I did that for years. And now I record by a Zoom
• 1:17:46
  because I'm not close enough to drive.
• 1:17:47
  But like, whenever I'm in town, we definitely, I record in the
• 1:17:50
  studio with them, but they're in the studio and.
• 1:17:52
  Yeah, OK. You know.
• 1:17:53
  Yeah. So there's, there's that and,
• 1:17:55
  you know, just with everything else, right, With family and
• 1:17:57
  life and everything, just like it's something that is on the
• 1:17:59
  calendar and we just stick to it.
• 1:18:01
  Yeah. That's kind of the.
• 1:18:02
  Yeah, the thing. Yeah, just becomes a routine, I
• 1:18:04
  suppose. And I I guess if you weren't
• 1:18:06
  doing it, you'd miss it, right. So it's just you're.
• 1:18:08
  Yeah, just do it, yeah. It's totally.
• 1:18:10
  Yeah, it is. And it helps too that, you know,
• 1:18:13
  it keeps us sort of relevant in the automotive space.
• 1:18:16
  You know, I mean, it's, it's a being really pragmatic about it.
• 1:18:19
  Like, you know, this is, this is how, you know, we stay like, or
• 1:18:23
  we get access to events and, you know, we have a voice and, and
• 1:18:26
  we're all of those things are important to us, right, as we
• 1:18:29
  build network and like connect to all these other people.
• 1:18:31
  Like it's the fact that we have this outlet and you know, it's,
• 1:18:36
  it's a platform that, you know, has an audience, like definitely
• 1:18:39
  helps us and it's, and it's, it's part of the the deal.
• 1:18:43
  You know, it's like definitely part of keeping us going.
• 1:18:45
  It's like, all right, like we want to continue this, right?
• 1:18:48
  We want to, we want to be able to, to do X and, and, and, and
• 1:18:52
  meet cool people like you guys, right?
• 1:18:54
  So like Sam, that that's a big part of it too.
• 1:18:56
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's a great answer.
• 1:18:59
  You know it, it really is. One other question, if you've
• 1:19:03
  got a minute best, I don't know I was wording best Radwood
• 1:19:09
  playlist or soundtrack? What would be on your top five
• 1:19:13
  or top 10? Oh man, also a full mix.
• 1:19:19
  Right, like I I thought long and hard when I put a little promo
• 1:19:22
  together, I ended up on on new shoes because that just sort of
• 1:19:25
  seemed to encapsulate. OK.
• 1:19:27
  I don't know. You tell me.
• 1:19:29
  Yeah, you know it just. Well, there is how do I put
• 1:19:33
  this? I mean, the thing for me is also
• 1:19:35
  it has a lot to do with like mood, right?
• 1:19:37
  Because like I love David Bowie and like David Bowie always gets
• 1:19:40
  me moving, right? Like it's like I love like a lot
• 1:19:44
  of his music and I feel like you can't go wrong there.
• 1:19:48
  But sometimes I want to be, you know, it's I'm in a different
• 1:19:50
  mood, right? And I'm like, I'm more like, you
• 1:19:53
  know, East Coast, like, you know, early rap, right?
• 1:19:56
  So like I want to listen to, you know, stuff in that realm and
• 1:19:59
  so. And you know, I love the Beastie
• 1:20:02
  Boys, you know, still and you know, it, it just really depends
• 1:20:05
  on the mood. It's hard to say.
• 1:20:07
  I do have a super comprehensive playlist that we've compiled
• 1:20:10
  that we occasionally use for events.
• 1:20:13
  And it is a very wide array of music.
• 1:20:15
  You know, everything from like Fleetwood Mac to, you know,
• 1:20:18
  Vanilla Ice. So, you know, cuz it's amazing.
• 1:20:21
  You know, it's, it's the era was so like, you know, there was so
• 1:20:24
  much diversity in the music, right?
• 1:20:26
  Like in the in like look like Toto to comparing Toto to like
• 1:20:30
  MC Hammer, right? I mean like it's and you want
• 1:20:33
  both of them on the playlist, right.
• 1:20:34
  So yeah, I mean. Listen to the artist you just
• 1:20:37
  named. Like did you ever think you'd
• 1:20:38
  hear those in the same sentence? But like, it's of the time.
• 1:20:41
  But all good. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:20:43
  Yeah, but yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah.
• 1:20:45
  You want some, Sir? Mix a lot in there, you know,
• 1:20:47
  you want. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:20:49
  It's all awesome. Yeah.
• 1:20:51
  I mean, I we, you know, Warren and I travel a lot together
• 1:20:55
  because we're the ones that kind of boots on the ground at these
• 1:20:57
  shows. And so we listen to a lot of
• 1:21:00
  Hall and Oates that that's, you know, pretty iconic and you
• 1:21:03
  can't go wrong there. So yeah, hard to say.
• 1:21:07
  Like 1 tidy play. Sure, sure.
• 1:21:10
  I think I threw some options out there for.
• 1:21:12
  You like any good DJ, got to read the room right?
• 1:21:14
  And you know what the bangers are right?
• 1:21:17
  The Anthems. Right.
• 1:21:18
  So absolutely, yeah. I mean, Careless Whisper at
• 1:21:21
  Radwood, I don't know if I feel like that's the right.
• 1:21:23
  I like the song, but it's where you are.
• 1:21:25
  Makes sense? Japan, you know it would.
• 1:21:28
  It would be a hit. Right, Yeah, yeah.
• 1:21:30
  I mean, well, yeah, I mean, there's also I listened oddly
• 1:21:34
  enough, you know, that you mentioned that I listen to a lot
• 1:21:37
  of Japanese city pop, which is basic.
• 1:21:39
  It's music of Japan from the 80s and, and, and so it is, it's
• 1:21:45
  very interesting because it's definitely very heavily Western
• 1:21:48
  influence, but it's got like sort of a little bit of a jazzy,
• 1:21:51
  synthy vibe. And like, and there's there,
• 1:21:54
  there's also a few different bands that are very into like
• 1:21:56
  jazz fusion. And so, and it's one of my
• 1:21:59
  favorite genres and here like it's not super popular, but like
• 1:22:04
  if it was a rad one in Japan, I'd be inclined to play a ton of
• 1:22:06
  that stuff, you know. So I mean, I don't know if like
• 1:22:10
  LL Cool J would resonate sure over there, but.
• 1:22:13
  It's funny, like the 80s and 90s, you look back at now like
• 1:22:15
  they were these halcyon days, right?
• 1:22:17
  And at the time they, you know, they didn't seem so great.
• 1:22:19
  But I guess that's just how this works, right?
• 1:22:20
  Sentimentality and everything else but DM if they didn't put
• 1:22:23
  out a, a good, good soundtrack, right?
• 1:22:26
  So. Totally.
• 1:22:26
  Yeah. No, I mean I, I still, I still,
• 1:22:30
  I mean, I do I, I don't know. I mean, I, I, I guess I'm, I am
• 1:22:33
  maybe more of the stereotype. I do look back on it very fondly
• 1:22:36
  and like with the Rose colored, you know, gross tinted lenses,
• 1:22:39
  if you will, because like, especially because you're, it's
• 1:22:43
  a, it's mostly about where you are in your life, right.
• 1:22:45
  And so like when I it's like being a kid, you know,
• 1:22:48
  especially like for the 80s, right, I was a little younger,
• 1:22:51
  you know, I turned 40 something today, like, but like, I
• 1:22:53
  definitely remember like, like playing like playing Nintendo
• 1:22:56
  with my friends, right, the sleepover and like in 88 or
• 1:23:00
  something. That was super cool and it was
• 1:23:02
  one of the best experiences I ever had, right?
• 1:23:04
  We were just eating all the pizza in the world and we had
• 1:23:06
  nothing, no bills to pay, No, all the stuff, you know, just
• 1:23:10
  have no responsibilities. And then into the 90s, like
• 1:23:13
  actually getting my first car and then like, you know, and
• 1:23:16
  doing all that stuff. And then, you know, everything
• 1:23:18
  that comes along with with, you know, being a teenager and, and
• 1:23:21
  just sort of like, you know, sure, there were some challenges
• 1:23:24
  and not so great things, but like, and, and also you look at
• 1:23:27
  the macro, right, like political stuff, all that.
• 1:23:29
  Like I don't really look at that.
• 1:23:30
  I'm just like thinking about like, what was I into and what
• 1:23:33
  was like, you know, and that sort of thing, right.
• 1:23:35
  Because naturally every era is going to have some strife and,
• 1:23:38
  and, you know, and some issues, right.
• 1:23:40
  But I feel like, yeah, the overall though, like, I think
• 1:23:43
  it's just, it was a simpler time, right, As they say.
• 1:23:46
  And, you know, being able to like, you know, jump.
• 1:23:49
  Like I remember like leaving my house after dinner and riding
• 1:23:52
  bikes for three hours and coming back in the middle of the night,
• 1:23:55
  you know, and like, my parents didn't care as long as I got
• 1:23:58
  back, you know, I just, I needed to be back by 11:00 PM.
• 1:24:02
  You know, it was, it was not a school night and I could do
• 1:24:04
  whatever the hell I wanted. And it was awesome, you know?
• 1:24:06
  So there's little stuff like that, you know, of course, all
• 1:24:09
  the movies and there's all the pop culture.
• 1:24:11
  And that's what makes the Radwood stuff so popular, right,
• 1:24:13
  Is that you walk around an event and you're going to see all the
• 1:24:16
  memorabilia, all the ephemera, all of those things, you know,
• 1:24:19
  like you're going to see that memorabilia that that is tied to
• 1:24:24
  motorsport, sure, but also just pop culture stuff, right?
• 1:24:27
  Like we just had A at a Norcal event, we had an ecto, like a
• 1:24:31
  Ghostbusters ecto build with like Slimer and like all the
• 1:24:35
  Ghostbusters equipment. They built their own gear and
• 1:24:37
  their own, like, what do you call it?
• 1:24:39
  Their own. Oh, the proton packs.
• 1:24:41
  Yeah, the Proton packs, yes. Yeah.
• 1:24:43
  So they built them pretty legit, you know, and, and it was
• 1:24:47
  actually a JDM spin on it. It was like some sort of JDM
• 1:24:50
  like Toyota car wagon and they converted into an ecto.
• 1:24:53
  So I love it. Yeah, there's a ton of stuff
• 1:24:55
  like that, which is really fun. Raddus dressed at Radwood Norcal
• 1:24:59
  was Elliot from ET. Oh, I saw those pictures.
• 1:25:03
  That was amazing. Yeah.
• 1:25:04
  And she had the period correct BMX bike with the with the ET up
• 1:25:08
  front. And like we just happened to
• 1:25:10
  know family that both of you know, his parents are friends of
• 1:25:13
  ours and we had no idea that they were going to do that.
• 1:25:16
  And it was not up to us that he won the award.
• 1:25:18
  Like he was like overwhelmingly the most popular.
• 1:25:22
  So good I I can't see three kids on BMX bikes without thinking of
• 1:25:25
  ET. Right.
• 1:25:26
  Like it's just that's the impression that that movie left
• 1:25:29
  on. Totally.
• 1:25:30
  That's that's awesome. Absolutely.
• 1:25:32
  Well, keep doing the amazing work art.
• 1:25:34
  I mean, it's just, you know, like I said, Radwood really has
• 1:25:36
  become a movement and you know, it's a word that just about
• 1:25:39
  everyone knows, right? I mean, you're part of the
• 1:25:41
  lexicon and that's, I mean, I think that's the highest
• 1:25:43
  compliment. So thank you for joining us and
• 1:25:45
  and on your birthday nonetheless, So I know.
• 1:25:48
  Yeah, thanks. Yep.
• 1:25:49
  Yeah. And this is such a great
• 1:25:50
  birthday present. You're kind.
• 1:25:52
  Thank you. Thank you.
• 1:25:54
  Thank you. We'll look for you at Car Week
• 1:25:58
  as far as social media and all that, where to find you best
• 1:26:01
  places and and what's your next event, I guess after Car Week
• 1:26:04
  that we should look for? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:06
  So you can find us the podcast stuff and all the driving events
• 1:26:10
  that's driving while awesome at driving while awesome on all the
• 1:26:13
  things at Radwood official on all the things for Radwood,
• 1:26:16
  anything radwood.com, of course, for, you know, schedules and,
• 1:26:20
  you know, tickets and stuff like that.
• 1:26:22
  And then personally, I'm at art seas, so a RTS double ES.
• 1:26:28
  It's a play on my name. It's kind of a nerdy thing, but
• 1:26:33
  yeah, that that's probably the those are all of the main
• 1:26:36
  properties there that you'll find our stuff on.
• 1:26:38
  And next event will be in L Actually, no, I'm sorry.
• 1:26:43
  It's going to be in Detroit. So we're going to be a part of a
• 1:26:47
  thing again called cars at the station in front of the Michigan
• 1:26:50
  Central train station that Ford completely redid.
• 1:26:54
  I don't know if you guys saw that.
• 1:26:57
  And so we had a presence there last year ahead of our main
• 1:27:00
  event, our own standalone event. But this year we're actually
• 1:27:03
  totally integrating into that event.
• 1:27:05
  So we're going to do a display there, our own Radwood display
• 1:27:09
  as part of that experience. It's free to attend to the
• 1:27:12
  public, so check it out. If you want to submit a car,
• 1:27:15
  it's cars at thestation.com and you can just just put your
• 1:27:19
  information in there in the notes, say that you're
• 1:27:21
  interested in Radwood and you know, we'll, we'll take that
• 1:27:24
  into account. I think we're only going to do
• 1:27:25
  about 50 to 60 cars. So it's also pretty curated, but
• 1:27:30
  that that should be a fun time. And then after that, real quick,
• 1:27:33
  we're going to be in LA October 25th back at the same venue at
• 1:27:37
  the Port of Los Angeles in San Pedro.
• 1:27:39
  Nice. We're going to do a takeover
• 1:27:41
  there again. And then November 20.
• 1:27:44
  I'm sorry, October 25th, did I say October 15th, October 25th
• 1:27:49
  and then November 15th, yeah, November 15th will be our Austin
• 1:27:53
  event. And so we're going back to CODA,
• 1:27:56
  which we have been to for this will be our fourth time I think
• 1:27:59
  there. But yeah, that's the sort of
• 1:28:02
  rounds up the year there. And then we're back at it again
• 1:28:05
  early next year. Thank you With the pop caller,
• 1:28:08
  you may have saved my life from rabies tonight.
• 1:28:10
  So because I get off this call, I'm gonna go do some bat
• 1:28:14
  hunting. You're.
• 1:28:15
  Gonna go investigate. As well.
• 1:28:19
  Thank you for, uh, sticking with us despite the intrusion and,
• 1:28:22
  and really great conversation Art.
• 1:28:24
  Thank you very much. Just keep on doing for doing it
• 1:28:26
  again. You're, you're killing it and,
• 1:28:28
  and we love Radwood and can't wait to see a car week.
• 1:28:31
  So. Thanks.
• 1:28:32
  Awesome. Thanks.
• 1:28:32
  Thanks a ton. And yeah, and hopefully, uh,
• 1:28:34
  your audience comes and checks us out.
• 1:28:36
  Just go to radwood.com, see where, check out our schedule
• 1:28:39
  and see if it's close to you. If not, make the trip, make it,
• 1:28:41
  make the trip. You know, we choose interesting
• 1:28:45
  destinations for a reason, right?
• 1:28:46
  So, you know, fly out, do the Radwood things, stick around for
• 1:28:49
  Sunday, check out whatever town we're in.
• 1:28:51
  Absolutely. Well worth it.
• 1:28:53
  Well worth it. Lindsay, you always close these
• 1:28:55
  things up. Well remember, always be driving
• 1:28:59
  and thanks for doing. That Art.
• 1:29:01
  Yeah. Thanks, Art.
• 1:29:03
  Thank you.