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10-23-26 - Nuggets lose opener to OKC/Broncos @ Cardinals expectations/Playing scared on a contract year · The Appetizer Hour with Brett Kane

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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma City will wind it down. Five seconds left to
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  Speaker 2: go here. And Denver will lose. There's a horn. And
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma City to the Thunder. Entertaining basketball game. for three
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  Speaker 2: plus quarters and then it slipped away from the Nuggets.
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  Speaker 2: 96-84 is the final here tonight. Denver falls to 0-1
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  Speaker 2: on the season. They obviously shrink a bunch to begin with.
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  Speaker 3: Do you feel like Cam being out of the game
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  Speaker 3: in the second half just kind of affected the spacing
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  Speaker 3: at all for Nicola and Jamal as they were kind
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  Speaker 3: of trying to figure out ways to operate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No, I mean, if your best shooters aren't playing, obviously
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  Speaker 4: that's a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: So I have a whole sort of pros and cons
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  Speaker 3: list from last night.
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  Speaker 4: I think there was a lot of good.
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  Speaker 5: A lot.
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  Speaker 3: There was some bad that was mixed in, but I
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  Speaker 3: do believe, like, I don't know how you guys felt
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  Speaker 3: about the game last night. I came away actually pretty encouraged.
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  Speaker 3: Because I think the things that you couldn't do were
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  Speaker 3: fixable things, and I think the things that you did
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  Speaker 3: do were improvements from last year. And I'll give you
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  Speaker 3: an example. Jokic going 5 of 19 from the.
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  Speaker 4: Floor is highly, highly correctable. Like, highly.
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  Speaker 3: Jokic doesn't have shooting percentages like that very often, but
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  Speaker 3: the Thunder now have done that to two of the
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  Speaker 3: best players in the world in back-to-back games to start
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  Speaker 3: the season. Which says to me, the Thunder are really good. Like,
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  Speaker 3: they're very, very good. I think they're the best team
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  Speaker 3: in the league. I said it before the season started,
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  Speaker 3: even though that they weren't the NBA champions or Western
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  Speaker 3: Conference champions from last year. You just look at the
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  Speaker 3: way that that team is built from top to bottom,
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  Speaker 3: the amount of bodies that they can throw out there confidently.
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  Speaker 3: And everybody gives like a different sort of flavor with,
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  Speaker 3: you know, even Mara, who goes out there at seven
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  Speaker 3: foot two and then becomes this giant skyscraper.
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  Speaker 4: In the middle of the paint. They're really well put together.
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  Speaker 4: They just are.
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  Speaker 3: And you're going to need to be at your best
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  Speaker 3: to beat them. And here's what's funny. Jokic was not
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  Speaker 3: at his best. Jamal had a miserable game. Cam Johnson
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  Speaker 3: leaves after 11 minutes. And you had control of that
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  Speaker 3: basketball game until about midway through the third. And you
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  Speaker 3: did that through playing great defensively, you did that through
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  Speaker 3: limiting the other best player in the world, which is
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  Speaker 3: Shea Gilgis-Alexander, to no buckets until late in that game.
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  Speaker 3: Like the Nuggets broke his streak, I think it was
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  Speaker 3: 141 straight games of 20-plus points. Every single night. He
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  Speaker 3: only had 17 last night, and most of those came late,
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  Speaker 3: late in the game.
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  Speaker 4: No buckets at half.
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  Speaker 3: I think that guys like Trevin Brazil coming off the
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  Speaker 3: bench and Alpha Diallo looked like guys who were going
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  Speaker 3: to give you real minutes this year.
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  Speaker 4: Even Marvin Bagley. In the minutes that he gave.
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  Speaker 3: You, like, I came away pretty encouraged through the first
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  Speaker 3: game of the year against the best team in.
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  Speaker 4: The league on the road.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of things to like from
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  Speaker 3: last night. Like, if you're telling me the big problems
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  Speaker 3: that you had was Jokic and Murray couldn't make.
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  Speaker 4: A bucket, okay. I think 81 games that are left...
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  Speaker 4: those two will be just fine.
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  Speaker 3: I think Jokic is probably not going to be 5
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  Speaker 3: of 19 from the floor very often. I think that
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  Speaker 3: Jamal is probably not going to be 2 of 11. Like,
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  Speaker 3: the problem with Jamal wasn't so much that he couldn't
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  Speaker 3: make a shot last night. He was turning the ball
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  Speaker 3: over like crazy, and that killed you. You know, in
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  Speaker 3: those non-Jokic minutes where somebody else is handling the basketball, like,
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  Speaker 3: six turnovers from Jamal is big. DeRozan was kind of
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  Speaker 3: the same way. And maybe that's DeRozan trying to fit
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  Speaker 3: into a bench role now and trying to figure out
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  Speaker 3: what his game is and who he's playing with and
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  Speaker 3: all these different things. Like, it really felt like last
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  Speaker 3: night was a feeling out process. And I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how you guys feel about it. And the texture says, Brett,
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  Speaker 3: why are you making excuses for the Nuggets? Be mad.
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  Speaker 4: It's okay.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know how many times I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: tell you guys this. I don't come on here and
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  Speaker 3: fake an emotion. Like, this is how I felt watching
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  Speaker 3: the game last night. I think holding the Thunder to
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  Speaker 3: 96 points is really impressive. And the reasons why you
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  Speaker 3: didn't score were because your two best scores on the
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  Speaker 3: team couldn't make a bucket. I don't think that Jamal
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  Speaker 3: and Jokic are going to combine for 7 for 30
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  Speaker 3: very often. But the things that I've been concerned about
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  Speaker 3: heading into this year, if you heard me yesterday, here
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  Speaker 3: was my thought from yesterday. It felt to me, as
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  Speaker 3: you went to sort of the bargain bin this offseason,
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  Speaker 3: because you had to, to find players to fill out
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  Speaker 3: this roster.
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  Speaker 4: It felt to me.
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  Speaker 3: That the Nuggets were like a team that were, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: they're going to make the playoffs. But I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what they do beyond that because I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: their depth is. And the depth was the big concern.
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  Speaker 3: You go into a game last night in which I
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  Speaker 3: thought you had seven players on that roster that I trusted.
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  Speaker 3: It was your starting five, DeMar DeRozan and Spencer Jones. Well,
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  Speaker 3: Spencer Jones was out. So that limits it to six.
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  Speaker 3: Then Cam Johnson leaves after 11 minutes. That limits that
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  Speaker 3: to five. Jokic and Murray weren't good last night. Well,
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  Speaker 3: that takes you down to three. Really the only starter
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  Speaker 3: that played well. overall, was Aaron Gordon. And the shame
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  Speaker 3: of it is, it looked like Cam Johnson was going
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  Speaker 3: to have a pretty good game hitting those spot-up threes
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  Speaker 3: until he got hurt. And when I talk about depth,
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  Speaker 3: this is kind of the point here. And this is
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  Speaker 3: something that David Adelman said in his quote that Nelly
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  Speaker 3: just played.
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  Speaker 4: They aren't a.
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  Speaker 4: This isn't a shooter's roster. Okay?
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  Speaker 3: Jokic's three-point shooting is off and on. Jamal is typically
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  Speaker 3: a good three-point shooter. He was just really off last night.
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  Speaker 3: Your shooters are Cam Johnson, Julian Strother, who I did
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  Speaker 3: kind of cock an eyebrow when he said that because
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, Julian doesn't really play.
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  Speaker 4: At least he hasn't. So, I don't know. But it's true.
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  Speaker 3: Cam Johnson and Julian Strother, two of your best three-point shooters,
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  Speaker 3: were out. after 11 minutes with Cam Johnson. I just,
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  Speaker 3: I really was concerned about what would the bench look
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  Speaker 3: like when the starters were off the floor and they
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  Speaker 3: had extended minutes with Alpha Diallo and Trevin Brazil and
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  Speaker 3: DeMar DeRozan and Marvin Bagley and Tyus Jones and all
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  Speaker 3: these different guys where I was like.
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  Speaker 4: You know what?
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  Speaker 3: It was pretty fun. It actually looked like a competent group.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Trevon Brazil had 12 rebounds in 18 minutes.
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  Speaker 3: He looked like a pogo stick.
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  Speaker 4: He was constantly in the air.
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  Speaker 3: So I just, look, the Thunder are a very, very
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  Speaker 3: good basketball team. I think they're the best team in
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  Speaker 3: the league. I don't think the Nuggets are. And you
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  Speaker 3: have to be... Pretty perfect if you're a team that
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  Speaker 3: is playing the best one in the league at home
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  Speaker 3: to beat them.
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  Speaker 4: And the Nuggets weren't.
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  Speaker 3: And they weren't perfect, and I would really narrow it
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  Speaker 3: down to about two or three things, but the top
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  Speaker 3: two being your top two players, Jokic and Murray, were
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  Speaker 3: not good offensively. And your best shooter on the team,
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  Speaker 3: Cam Johnson went out with an injury 11 minutes in.
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  Speaker 3: That makes it exponentially more difficult to beat the Thunder.
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  Speaker 3: My whole thought process behind this is the fact that
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  Speaker 3: you were able to even be in that game and
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  Speaker 3: have a lead is crazy. I mean, the Nuggets only
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  Speaker 3: scored 36 points in the second half.
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  Speaker 4: That's awful.
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  Speaker 3: But when your two best, who typically don't shoot the
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  Speaker 3: way that they did, play that way That's what's going
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  Speaker 3: to happen. So no, I'm actually encouraged after last night,
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  Speaker 3: not discouraged.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not happy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm disappointed because I feel like that was a winnable game.
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  Speaker 3: You were holding OKC in check, but you couldn't get
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  Speaker 3: a bucket, and you turned the ball over a lot,
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  Speaker 3: a lot. I mean, turnovers were 22 to 12. points
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  Speaker 3: off turnovers. I don't even know what the number is.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure that can tell you a pretty big story. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you conceded 21 points to 12 points off of turnovers,
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  Speaker 3: and guess what? You lost by 12. Pretty much the
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  Speaker 3: exact number that you lost by. But again, encouraging things,
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  Speaker 3: like Aaron Gordon was great. I don't know, and I
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  Speaker 3: pray to God this guy stays healthy this year, but
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  Speaker 3: you want to talk about one of the most insane
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  Speaker 3: turnarounds in somebody's career. You don't see very often in
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  Speaker 3: the NBA, I would say almost never, you don't see
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  Speaker 3: the guy who can't shoot from three that all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden becomes a sharpshooter from three. That late in
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  Speaker 3: his career. I mean, Aaron Gordon joined the NBA in 2014.
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  Speaker 3: He became a good three-point shooter in 2024. Like, you
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  Speaker 3: get to year 10 of your career, and then all
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  Speaker 3: of a sudden you learn how to shoot.
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  Speaker 4: It needs to be studied, what A.G.
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  Speaker 5: Has done.
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  Speaker 4: But, yeah, I get... I don't know, man. I get
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people that.
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  Speaker 4: Are like angry this morning. I just, I don't feel that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: And tell me why I'm incorrect then. It's one thing
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  Speaker 3: to tell me I'm wrong. Give me some substance behind it.
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  Speaker 3: What am I exactly wrong about? Because I'd like to
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  Speaker 3: hear it. I'm open to having my mind changed. I've
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  Speaker 3: had it changed a million different times. But I guess,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, I started from a point where that
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  Speaker 3: was not the unexpected result last night. I think the
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  Speaker 3: final score definitely was. I don't think anybody would have
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  Speaker 3: picked both of these teams to be held under 100 points. But,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, Nelly, let me ask you real quick.
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  Speaker 3: What was your overall feeling after last night?
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  Speaker 5: You know, my overall feeling was, well, I should say,
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  Speaker 5: first of all, it was kind of funny. I wasn't
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  Speaker 5: able to watch the first half. I was at a
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  Speaker 5: comedy show downtown. And so I got in the car
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  Speaker 5: right as the third quarter was starting. And you know
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  Speaker 5: how you try to.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you got in for the worst minutes.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 5: I missed the good stuff. But you know how sometimes
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  Speaker 5: you come in in the middle of a game and
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  Speaker 5: you're trying to reverse engineer what happened?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: The score was in, I think, the 50s at that point.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, really?
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  Speaker 5: We're in the low 50s in the start of the
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  Speaker 5: third quarter?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And then at one point, I think Jokic or Jamal
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  Speaker 5: bricked a shot and Kaz said to Katie... Those two
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  Speaker 5: are great, by the way. Kaz with Katie Wenge on color.
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  Speaker 5: That's fun when we get her on radio.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. But.
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  Speaker 5: He said, man, none of these stars can make a
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  Speaker 5: shot on either team. And I said, you know what?
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: So to me that was a good sign that the
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  Speaker 5: starters for both teams were playing poorly, but some of
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  Speaker 5: the bench guys on the Nuggets actually stood up and
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  Speaker 5: kept the score close.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, they did.
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  Speaker 5: And CB was playing good defense on SGA. He was
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  Speaker 5: sticking on him all night, making his night pedestrian. So
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  Speaker 5: that was my takeaway is like when your stars have
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  Speaker 5: an off night, Your bench kept doing it, and then
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  Speaker 5: I guess you ran out of gas at the end
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  Speaker 5: of the fourth.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So just to highlight something that you said, though, a
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  Speaker 3: couple of texters have pointed out CB wasn't great shooting either.
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  Speaker 3: CB doesn't have to be great shooting if he holds
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  Speaker 3: him to no buckets and a half. There's a responsibility
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  Speaker 3: that every player has going into a game. If you
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  Speaker 3: have tasked Christian Brown with the responsibility of you make
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  Speaker 3: sure And look, did he get help?
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  Speaker 4: Occasionally.
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  Speaker 3: But it wasn't like they were doubling SGA every single possession.
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  Speaker 3: Christian Brown was excellent defensively against him. And I don't
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  Speaker 3: care if he went one for 40 from the floor.
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  Speaker 3: He did his job last night. So again, you guys.
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  Speaker 4: Tell me how you felt.
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  Speaker 3: Look, again, I'm disappointed in the result because I felt
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  Speaker 3: like that was a game, especially at half, You had
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  Speaker 3: control and you could have taken and you didn't.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm disappointed. But I will say it.
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  Speaker 3: Was encouraging for the things that I was concerned about
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  Speaker 3: heading into this season to see the bench, I think,
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  Speaker 3: hold their own against the deepest team in the NBA.
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  Speaker 3: And defensively, which was a gigantic problem last year, I
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  Speaker 3: thought you were good. The things that killed you were
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  Speaker 3: your best players didn't shoot well. That's not going to
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  Speaker 3: happen very often. So, 303-504-0925.
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  Speaker 4: Like, maybe....
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  Speaker 3: I'm not above being wrong in the way that I
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  Speaker 3: feel about things sometimes. And my overall consensus from last
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  Speaker 3: night is that I was disappointed.
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  Speaker 4: In the loss against the Thunder.
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  Speaker 3: But in the areas that I was concerned about, I
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  Speaker 3: was encouraged by what I saw. I think that Trevin
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  Speaker 3: Brazil's a guy like, I think he's a backup big
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  Speaker 3: that plays to the style that the nuggets want that
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  Speaker 3: could play with Joker and could play with the guys
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  Speaker 3: on the bench and fit in either way. I think
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  Speaker 3: that's big time. It's huge to get a guy that
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  Speaker 3: you trust on a cheap rookie contract. You haven't had
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  Speaker 3: one of those.
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  Speaker 4: So that's one thing.
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  Speaker 3: Um, And it actually says, in one offseason, the Nuggets
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  Speaker 3: went from best offense to worst. This team is built
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  Speaker 3: for coordinated offense. Adelman is forcing defense, which is why
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  Speaker 3: everyone was off. Man, there's 81 games left. You can't
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  Speaker 3: say best offense to worst over the span of a night.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I told you.
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  Speaker 3: Heading into the game, Knocking down threes and open threes
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  Speaker 3: is going to be a pretty big key. Turns out
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  Speaker 3: that was the case. Now, OKC didn't shoot much better,
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  Speaker 3: but again, that's a reason for, I think, encouragement. I
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  Speaker 3: just feel like last night, you got a good example of.
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  Speaker 3: You don't need more of a sample size on guys
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  Speaker 3: like Jokic and Murray.
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  Speaker 4: You know who they are. They were bad offensively. And
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  Speaker 4: let's be honest, guys.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like Jokic was selling out on defense and
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  Speaker 3: that led to bad offense for him.
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  Speaker 4: He was just... It's early in the season. It's the
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  Speaker 4: first game of the year. His touch was a little
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  Speaker 4: bit off.
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  Speaker 3: All those little floaters and stuff around the rim that
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  Speaker 3: usually bounce four times and go in bounced off the
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  Speaker 3: rim and went out.
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  Speaker 4: I just... I feel that.
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  Speaker 3: The Nuggets' style and competitiveness last night was something that.
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  Speaker 4: Left me more encouraged than discouraged.
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  Speaker 3: And to be honest, it was not anything remotely what
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  Speaker 3: I was expecting. So anyway, we'll get back to the
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  Speaker 3: Cardinals this weekend. Here's my expectation for the game. I
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  Speaker 3: think the Broncos win. I think it's ugly. It's just,
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  Speaker 3: it seems to be what the Broncos theme has been
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  Speaker 3: over the last, I don't know, two years. If we're
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  Speaker 3: looking for things like, how about this? We were just
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  Speaker 3: talking about the Nuggets and there are things that I
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  Speaker 3: went into the game concerned about that I left the
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  Speaker 3: game more encouraged by.
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  Speaker 4: I would love to have.
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  Speaker 3: That feeling about the offense. And that doesn't mean that
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  Speaker 3: it's perfect and everything goes great. But I'd just like
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  Speaker 3: to see that.
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  Speaker 4: If you can get.
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  Speaker 3: An offensive performance that is, how about, I'll put it, stomachable.
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  Speaker 4: If that's the case... then I think he'd come.
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  Speaker 3: Away with this game not only with a win, but
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: feeling a little bit better about what's to come. The
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Broncos' schedule as far as who they face here coming
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: up in the next six weeks comes from a lot
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: of teams. that are that are middle of the road
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: or worse all of that with the exception of what
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: happens against the Chiefs next weekend as they play them
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: is that the let's see okay so that's a Sunday
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: game but you have the Chiefs at home Again, the
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: next handful of games until the final stretch of the season.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: So everything up until Christmas, this is what it looks like.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: It's Cardinals, Chiefs, Panthers, Raiders, Steelers, Dolphins, Jets, and Raiders again.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Those are all middle-of-the-road teams or below that with the
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: exception of KC. Who, again, you get at home and
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: the Broncos at home are a monster.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: This isn't necessarily....
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: About just wins and losses. This isn't necessarily about, well,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: what's our record by the end of that? It is
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: about how does this look and do you trust that
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: heading into the postseason?
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Because that's the whole point. The point isn't to make
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: the playoffs.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: That is a given expectation. This team's made it two
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: straight years. They went to the AFC Championship last year.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: you should be like, yeah, we're going to make the playoffs.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: My concern beyond that is what happens after we get there.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: And I think.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Against a softer part of your schedule. Now you should
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: be able to look at that offense and say, that
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: is something I trust enough.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: That's the goal.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: As you hit in, head into that home stretch where
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: it's bills at Patriots in against the chargers. Like, I
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: had the game side-by-side last night. I had the Nuggets
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: game on, and I had the Bears and Patriots game on.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: And guys, it's a different world that you're living in
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: when you watch the Patriots and the Bears passing game.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: It just is.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, both of those guys last night, Caleb Williams,
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: and I hate to say it, because I'm not a
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: huge Caleb Williams guy.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: He is remarkably fun to watch. He just is.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Drake May puts throws on the money. He had one
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: bad throw, and it ended up being in the red
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: zone for a pick that, if you want to go
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: back and look at the game, eventually ended up costing
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: him the game. But there's a willingness to put the
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: ball in harm's way. There's a gamble that's taken place
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: with both of these guys.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, the best throw of the game.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Caleb Williams on third down, have to get a first
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: down to keep the clock moving and potentially run the
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: clock out against New England. He puts one, New England's
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: in zone coverage. He's got a linebacker over the middle.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: He's got a corner that's bearing down on the receiver
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: and a safety over the top. And he makes a
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: throw that is just over the outstretched fingertips of Kevin
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Bayard over the middle. fits it in the pocket, I
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: think it was to Colston Loveland, fits it in the
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: pocket to him on a third and nine, where that
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: guy's taking a hit immediately upon catching the football. But
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: it's the willingness to make that throw that I want
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: to see heading into this weekend. And I know that
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: everybody's kind of thinking to themselves, well, you know what,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Arizona's not very good. Well, Arizona won a football game
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: against the Rams, kicking six field goals last week.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: When the Rams were 12.5-point favorites at home.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like the Cardinals are terrible. They have
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: talent on that team.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: They do.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: They are very limited offensively with non-explosive plays, which is
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: why your defense, I think, is going to.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: There isn't a world that exists in which you get
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: blown out in this game. There's just not.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: The Cardinals' offense is way too impotent to do that
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: to you. But to me that says, well, why not
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: take some risks then? Like I am in Bo Nix's
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: ear all week and I'm saying, hey man, there's a
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: difference between being stupid with the football and trusting yourself.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I want Bo Nix to look like he trusts himself.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Think about how we were talking about Drake May after
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: the first three weeks of the season.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: New England was miserable.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: They couldn't score points. They lost in week one 13-10
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: to Seattle, and that's when Sam Darnold was knocked out
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: five plays in, and Drew Locke ends up winning that
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: game 13-10. In that game, Drake May threw three picks
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: and one touchdown. When the ball got knocked out of
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Drake May's hand. The second week they play against Pittsburgh,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: they win that game 20-3, but once again, Drake May
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: looked awful.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: He threw another pick. He had no touchdowns.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: It was like you were kind of just playing against
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: a team, a Pittsburgh team that couldn't figure it out.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: In the third week, they get beat 35-6 by Jacksonville
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: in a game in which Drake May had no touchdowns
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: again and two interceptions. And we all thought to ourselves,
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: what the hell's wrong with Drake May? What happened to him?
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Was last year a fluke? Does he actually stink? And
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: guess what? Since then, He's thrown for 12 touchdowns in
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: the next four weeks to only two picks. He found confidence.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: He ran two touchdowns in. You want to know what's
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: crazy about Drake May? Drake May, in the last four
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: weeks of the season, last four, has run for 130 yards.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: These are all things that I'm looking at Bo Nix
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, start running the football again.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Push the ball downfield. Trust yourself. Do all of these things.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: And if there's any team you can get away with
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: it with, it's Arizona. Now, I say that, and then
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: I go back a couple of weeks, and you thought
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: you could get away with something like that against the Chargers,
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: and the Chargers were beating you until late in that game.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: So I guess who knows? But confidence stems from the
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: people who are doing the action. When you're a sports fan,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: you don't gain confidence by blind faith. You do it
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: by witnessing it. And you can tell when a player
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: is playing confidently or when he's playing tepid and scared.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: And right now, I think the Bo Nix is playing scared.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if it's a fear of, I
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: don't trust my ankle. I don't trust my abilities. I
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: don't know what it is. I don't trust my O-line.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I don't trust my whoever. But that's what I want
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: to see. You've got a defense that has Jonathan Cooper
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: returning to the defensive line, which would make a huge difference,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: especially in the run game. In Arizona, it's just a
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: team that, look, they don't do a lot of things
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: well on offense. They do one thing. One thing really,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: really well. They get the ball to Trey McBride. And
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Trey McBride is the best tight end in the league, arguably.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: But that's not going to be enough to put you
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: in some sort of blender. Like, Arizona averages 300 yards
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: of offense per game. You average 250, but they don't
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: have your defense. I just feel like if there's any
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: game in which you can take some risks and get
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: away with it, it's this one. And I'd be telling
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Bo Nix, try and make some throws in tight windows
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: to push the ball downfield. The funny thing is, last
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: week when they did that against Seattle, they pushed the
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: ball downfield a couple of times, and guess what? I
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: can remember two specifically. One resulted in a pass interference
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: on Cortland Sutton because he was one-on-one that put the
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: ball at the one.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: The other.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: was a really good throw to Marvin Mims near the
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: end zone. That feet got tripped up, and there wasn't
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: a PI call, but it was almost a catch like
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: the throw was on the money.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: He's capable of doing it. But it is funny.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: You watch the game last night between two really good quarterbacks,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: young quarterbacks from the same draft class, and Drake May
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: and Caleb Williams. They're playing a different sport. And I
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: want it to look like that sport. I'm not even
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: saying that Bo Nix has to be as good as
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: those two quarterbacks are. But you have to be a threat.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: And that's the difference. Like, teams with terrible quarterbacks have
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: made it to the Super Bowl before. You know, the
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Bears made it, what was it, like 2000, what would
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: that be? 2004 or something like that with Rex Grossman.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: What year was that, Nellie? Look that up for me.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Let me see how bad my memory is. But they
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: made it with Rex Grossman where everybody knew that Grossman
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: was not a good guy. quarterback, and the defense was
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: carrying them to victories, and they would turn the ball
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: over and convert that into points, and that's what got
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: the Bears there.
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: Yes, that was played in February 2007, so that would
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: have been crowning a champion for the 2006 season.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Okay, so I was close. I don't want it to
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: feel that way.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Where the team's good, but you know the quarterback isn't,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: and you don't know how sustainable and long-term that is.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Bo Nix has shown in the past that he's capable
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: of making the throws that we're talking about. And again,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: if you doubt me, just throw on the highlight tape
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: of the Buffalo Bills game in the playoffs last year.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: And tell me that's not something you would take a
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: quarterback all day. It doesn't mean he's the best in
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: the league, but it means he's good enough to win
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: championships for you. And with this roster, that's what you
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: should be aiming for, especially during this rookie contract. I
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: want this to be a week where Bo Nix finds
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: his confidence. I am begging for this to be the
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: week where, I don't even know if I'm doing the
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: postgame show or not. If I'm doing the postgame show,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: if I'm coming in here on Monday, I want to say,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: That is something that can win.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: A Super Bowl. I ain't asking for the world here.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: And it doesn't mean he's Josh Allen. It means that
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: he has a competent offense combined with a killer defense
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: because that can do it. So 303-504-0925. Shop Mazda text line.
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  Speaker 3: to here. As we roll along today, the Nuggets open
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: up their season with an L in OKC. We have
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: the Broncos taking on the Cardinals, trying to get to
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: 5-2 on the season.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Stick around.
• 31:30
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• 31:36
  Speaker 3: & Shanker. Um, injury lawyers call 2-2-2.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: 2-2, 2-2. So, I want to go to a couple
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: of texts. Here's one.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Texture says, Bo isn't going to find his confidence because
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: it's not about confidence. It's about a $ 60 million contract.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: He doesn't want to get hurt. Fundamental disagreement. If you
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: play well and get hurt as a quarterback, you get
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: paid still. If you get hurt and play poorly, then
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: you don't. But playing well is the number one thing.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: It's not about are you healthy and then you get
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: the contract. For example, if I were to saw Nikola
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Jokic in half today and surgically repair him, saw him
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: in half, sew him back together, we don't know if
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Jokic is going to play basketball ever again. The Nuggets
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: still give him a max contract at the end of
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: this year because Jokic is good. And that's what you
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: do with good players. You give them money so that
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: they stay. The only reason, especially at that position, you
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: don't give that guy the giant contract is because he's
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: not good at football.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Like, we've seen a ton of examples of this. Tua.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Had plenty of injury problems throughout his college career, going
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: into his NFL career. But Tua got a big contract
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: from the Dolphins because Tua was good at that time.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Then he played poorly and was hurt all the time.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: And then they said, wow, we made a mistake. It's
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: about your level of play and is it trustworthy? And
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: the texture says Jokic is MVP. Bo is a middle
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: of the pack quarterback.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: I can name you a ton of middle of the
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: pack quarterbacks that have gotten gigantic contracts because the fear
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: of not having one of those, the fear of having
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: a really bad quarterback instead of middle of the road
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: is terrifying. And right now, guess what? Bo is one
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: of the worst quarterbacks in the league. Like we all
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: know it. The worst QBs in the NFL this season,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: and we don't need to put it in particular order,
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: but we've watched enough games this year to say this.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: The worst QBs in the league this season are Justin Herbert,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Cam Ward, Bo Nix, and Daniel Jones. In whatever order
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: you want to do it. Malik Willis is probably in
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: that discussion too. Those are like your bottom five. Whatever
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: order you want to do and put those guys in,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: then go ahead and do it. But that's the truth.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: And I don't think that Bo Nix is permanently in
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: that discussion. Just like I don't think that Justin Herbert
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: is permanently in that discussion. But that's where he is
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: right now. And that's what needs to change. It needs
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: to change to give you hopes that you can win
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: a Super Bowl. this year, number one. For him personally,
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: it needs a change to see if you secure a
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: gigantic generational type bag and are the franchise, is the
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: franchise starter here for years to come. Like, think about
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: how much different this would be if your defense was
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: average instead of incredible. Like, you legit might be 0-6
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: on the year. With a middle-of-the-road defense. Like, let me
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: just find a defense, at least in points per game,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: that is middle-of-the-road.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Let's go to a... There you go, Rams.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: If you had the Rams defense this year, they give
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: up 23 points a game. If you gave up 23
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: points a game, You might be 0-6. If you were
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: the Rams, if you were the Eagles defense from this year,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: which is typically good, and now they're just okay. They're
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: an okay defense. Well, look at what Philly's done. Philly's
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: 2-4 for basically the exact same reasons. With a much
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: worse schedule that they played against, by the way. They've
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: had the Commanders, Titans, and Panthers mixed in there.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: I'm just... These.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Are the things, the realities that you're dealing with right
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: now that need to change if you want to get
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: to the place you want to go, which is Super
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Bowl contention. And a texter says, isn't it crazy how
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: most people on local sports talk stations and nationally thought
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: the Broncos defense was going to take a big step.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Back this year? Boy, were they wrong.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Look, man, I was kind of one of them. I
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: don't know if I thought a big step back, but
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I thought a... Little step back. Do you know how
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: hard it is to replicate that year over year? To
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: be that level good and to do that again? To
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: not have injuries derail you? And look, when you're out,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Sertan and Hufanga and Jonathan Cooper and all these different things,
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: I think it's more than reasonable to expect a defense
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: to take a step back from there. Instead, They've been
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: awesome still. Like, incredibly good. So if the defense wasn't
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: playing at the level that they were playing at, it's
• 38:06
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  Speaker 4: So here's what we do.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Every Friday at the end of the appetizer, we pick
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: a lock of the weekend and we do an underdog
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: of the weekend. And because I've been so forgetful lately,
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I've neglected to do this for two straight weeks but
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: we're back so here's what you got I have one
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: lock of the week and this is going to be
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: you know the Browns have been fortunate that they've had
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: this last place schedule they've been going against and been
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: taking care of business against most of these teams Well,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: guess what? Cleveland is now going to play a Titans
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: team that is coming off their first win of the
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: year in Tennessee. They're one and a half point favorites.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: I think the Browns win this game again because they're better.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: And the Titans, the way that they won last week
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: was totally bizarre. It was Daniel Jones giving the ball away.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Cam Ward only threw for like 105 yards in that game.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: The Browns defense is nothing, if nothing else, is going
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: to hold Cam Ward to like 13 points max. So
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: I think the Browns win this game outright and cover
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: that one and a half pretty easily.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: And then for an underdog of the week, it's very odd.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: The Chiefs are playing against the Seahawks. Seahawks are a
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: three-point favorite on Sunday night. They're at home, but the Chiefs,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: have consistently been able to run the football. It's going
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: to be the return of Kenneth Walker to his old team.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he's going to want to make him pay
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: for that. The Seahawks do get Zach Charbonnet back this week,
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: which should change their running game and help out Sam
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Darnold a little bit. But I think the Seahawks are
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: a little lost offensively. I don't think they can get
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: things going outside of JSN still. And to rely on
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: just the return of Zach Charbonnet to be the thing
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: that changes everything, I don't buy it. So I'm going
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: to take the Chiefs not only to cover the plus three,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: but to win this weekend.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: So there you go.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Brady and his bets. We do it every Friday heading
• 41:17
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• 41:19
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• 41:31
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• 41:36
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• 41:39
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• 41:42
  Speaker 3: We'll recap the Nuggets game, their opener from last night
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: against OKC. Take one last look at the Broncos heading
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: into the weekend. A whole bunch to get to.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Stick around.