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Congressman Warren Davidson joins the show this morning · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Seven oh six. If you about Garrison de talk Station
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Speaker 1: Abby Thursday, Brian Thomas always looking forward to talking with
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Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson, So we get to do that right now.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Congressman Davidson. I certainly appreciate your willingness to
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Speaker 1: come on the fifty five Casey Morning Show and address
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Speaker 1: the listeners and me and answer the question is the
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Speaker 1: GOP going to give up on this whole shutdown thing?
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Speaker 1: Welcome back Congressman Davidson. It's great to have you on as.
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Speaker 2: Always, it's always an honor, Brian. And is the GOP
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Speaker 2: going to give up on it? I mean, look, that's
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Speaker 2: been my frustration a lot of the gops fighting like
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Speaker 2: the CRS. What we're fighting for, You're like, nothing preserves
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Speaker 2: the status quo, like a continuing resolution. It's just yeah,
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Speaker 2: what you were doing, just keep doing that. So it
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Speaker 2: is meant to be a peace offering, a truce to say, well,
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Speaker 2: let's at least keep the government open while we continue
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Speaker 2: our negotiations. Democrats have rejected that, I don't know fourteen
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Speaker 2: fifteen times. However, many times the Senate Democrats won't get
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Speaker 2: to sixty votes to even have the real vote, So
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Speaker 2: this is a cloture thing. The real binding vote could
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Speaker 2: be later, so you could say, well, go ahead and
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Speaker 2: have your vote and vote for that. But if you're
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Speaker 2: opposed to the measure, you could simply say I'm opposed.
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Speaker 2: But they won't do that in the Senate yet. There
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Speaker 2: are signs that they might be willing to start talking
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Speaker 2: about doing it, maybe over this weekend. I think there's
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Speaker 2: a fairly decent chance by the middle of the next
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Speaker 2: week and the next week we'll get it done. You know.
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Speaker 2: Once they did shut the government down, I felt like,
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Speaker 2: you know, there's a decent chance that this goes past
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Speaker 2: the election, but it's certainly, almost certainly going to be
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Speaker 2: over before Thanksgiving. So that puts us in the window right.
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Speaker 1: Now because they all have to use an airplane to
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Speaker 1: fly someplace, and the air traffic is getting shut down.
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Speaker 1: That was the announcement yesterday. The sting is starting to
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Speaker 1: be felt beyond those who just been placed on leave.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, you know it's felt because everyone has
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Speaker 2: at some point somebody they know well that's affected, I mean,
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Speaker 2: and members of Congress do because you know, you're sitting
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Speaker 2: there looking at your staff and they're looking at you like,
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Speaker 2: we're going to get this dumb boss because they're not
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Speaker 2: getting paid. So you know, you look at some of
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Speaker 2: these kinds of things where in our area right Patterson
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Speaker 2: Air Force Base is probably the biggest area that's affected,
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Speaker 2: the largest employer in the state. And you know, people
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Speaker 2: always say, well, why do we even have non essential employees?
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Speaker 2: And that's not necessarily a relative importance, it's just a
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Speaker 2: sense of urgency. Like obviously you can't furlow the federal
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Speaker 2: prison guards or the prison wouldn't work. But you know,
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Speaker 2: the procurement wing of the Air Force is important. Generally
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Speaker 2: they're working on longer range stuff than buying stuff to
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Speaker 2: keep the Air Force open today. So the people that
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Speaker 2: are working on say a project for future fighter plan
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Speaker 2: or something like that, they're furloughed right now. The military
2:48
Speaker 2: people are at work. It's important that we continue to
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Speaker 2: do these kinds of developments. I'd say we could be
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Speaker 2: a little more focused and effective at it, but nevertheless,
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Speaker 2: some of those people are very essential and they're not
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Speaker 2: at work right now because of the timing and the urgency.
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Speaker 2: So you know, some of these kinds of things will
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Speaker 2: be felt in the long run, but for a lot
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Speaker 2: of people in their personal household. They're like, things are fine.
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Speaker 2: Can we keep this going? So we'll see where we are. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: At listener lunch yesterday, I met the first person that
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Speaker 1: I had encountered that was directly impacted. He's a guy
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Speaker 1: that was placed on furlough, and so I had a
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Speaker 1: good conversation with him. He didn't seem really too angry
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Speaker 1: about the whole thing. He's like, have you met anybody
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Speaker 1: who's been directly impacted yet? He's like, no, welcome to
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Speaker 1: the first person. So, yeah, it hasn't reached its tentacles,
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Speaker 1: hasn't reached that far. But when it does start interrupting
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Speaker 1: things like people's holiday travel, then you're going to hear
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Speaker 1: more and more angry voices like, wait a minute, it
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Speaker 1: does impact me. So if you say it's going to
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Speaker 1: be resolved by Thanksgiving and I think I'm in agreement
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Speaker 1: with you on that for a variety of different reasons,
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Speaker 1: does that mean the Senate Democrats are finally just going
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Speaker 1: to say, Okay, we'll accept the clean resolution and keep
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Speaker 1: spending at Biden levels and then go back to work
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Speaker 1: on the twelve appropriations bills, which is what the whole
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Speaker 1: setup was for but doesn't the CR as it currently
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Speaker 1: exists keep the government open until some date in the
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Speaker 1: short term near future.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the CURRENCYR expires November twenty first, So
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Speaker 2: the version that passed the House, the version that they've
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Speaker 2: been voting on, expires November twenty first, So it's not
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Speaker 2: really rational to pass that with that date. So I
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Speaker 2: think the minimal change that the Senate will do is
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Speaker 2: change the date. We were really close to being done
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Speaker 2: with three of the appropriations bills in the House and Senate.
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Speaker 2: They're generally bundled in twelve. There's no magic reason it's
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Speaker 2: twelve bills. Like you normally have military construction and VA
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Speaker 2: funding in one bill. You normally have transportation and hood
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Speaker 2: in one bill. I mean, so it's not like a
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Speaker 2: magic combination. These things are clustered. But we had three
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Speaker 2: of the twelve bills done in the House and Senate,
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Speaker 2: and there are differences between them, and there were conferencing
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Speaker 2: those and some of those meetings have gone on and
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Speaker 2: they're not necessarily fully resolved. But there are a lot
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Speaker 2: of people fighting to say, let's put those three bills
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Speaker 2: on with the CR and show momentum towards you know,
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Speaker 2: the parts of funding that are bipartisan, So there might
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Speaker 2: be some kind of face saving compromise like that, But
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Speaker 2: those kinds of things were already pretty close. And you know,
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Speaker 2: there might be out of the one and a half
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Speaker 2: trillion dollar list of demands, some things that were bipartisan.
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Speaker 2: I can't find anything in that list that I want
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Speaker 2: to vote for as a single line item, as a
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Speaker 2: standalone provision. But some of those things might be so
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Speaker 2: not toxic that they could be added to a bill
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Speaker 2: and wouldn't necessarily lose votes. Some of them, if you
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Speaker 2: add them to the bill, well you're going to lose
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Speaker 2: a lot of Republican votes, but maybe you pick up
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Speaker 2: a lot of Democrat votes. So we'll see. They may
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Speaker 2: finally get to that point. But for the longest time
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Speaker 2: that was the Democrats like, here's our list of one
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Speaker 2: and a half trained dollar demands, and they didn't want
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Speaker 2: to talk about anything but that whole one and a
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Speaker 2: half trillion. They might highlight one or two things, but
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Speaker 2: their goal was to get to some point. Maybe this
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Speaker 2: is the point they wanted to get.
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Speaker 1: Well, I really truly believe part of the strategy. I
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Speaker 1: suppose you can keep the government shut down that is
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Speaker 1: a strategy of some sort was to impact the election
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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Do you think that had some measure of success?
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Speaker 1: Can give given the the outcome that was not good
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Speaker 1: for the Republicans side of the ledger anyway.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean you look at Republicans that are saying, well,
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Speaker 2: without Trump on the ballot, we have a hard time
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Speaker 2: motivating our voters. Well, Democrats are the same way. Trump
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Speaker 2: wasn't on the ballot. So how do you motivate your voters? Well,
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Speaker 2: they got caught fighting. It's clear they're fighting for something
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Speaker 2: other than the status quo. And the status quo isn't
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Speaker 2: popular with anybody. Nobody likes it because it didn't freaking
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Speaker 2: work it. So we're supposed to be changing it. And
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Speaker 2: that's where my frustration with the Republicans has been. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: we're playing decent defense. I'm glad the Speaker in a
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Speaker 2: lot of ways has kept us out because it's prevented
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Speaker 2: the Surrender Caucus from forming and saying, oh, let's compromise
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Speaker 2: even further. It's like, no, the cr was the compromise quit?
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Speaker 2: You know?
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Speaker 1: So if more people understood exactly how it got to
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Speaker 1: this point in time, there would be no argument that
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Speaker 1: who's to blame if blame is this key critical element
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Speaker 1: for this shutdown. I mean, you set the whole thing
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Speaker 1: up to take all the wind out of the Democrats
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Speaker 1: sales by passing the Continuing Resolution to keep funding levels
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Speaker 1: at Biden era spending. I mean that should have been
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Speaker 1: the end of the discussion right there. Or the CR passes,
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Speaker 1: you work on the appropriations bills, and we're all done
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Speaker 1: and moving on with our lives.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was the way I was designing.
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Speaker 2: I mean you look at it, the shutdown, it's like
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Speaker 2: normally shutdowns over like, well, we put some really aggressive
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Speaker 2: provision in this bill, and you know, okay, it's partisan,
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Speaker 2: so we can't get the votes or something like that.
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Speaker 2: There's nothing in this bill. I mean, now, granted we
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Speaker 2: passed some other things earlier in the year, and that's
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Speaker 2: what they're you know, upset about. I mean, whether medicaid
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Speaker 2: they want to keep giving it to illegals in some states,
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Speaker 2: food stamps for example, they're talking about that today. But
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Speaker 2: you know, those kinds of programs. We said, look, if
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Speaker 2: you're able bodied work at age adult, you don't have
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Speaker 2: dependent kids at home, I mean, you get to go
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Speaker 2: to work. Eventually, go to work, go to school, volunteer,
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Speaker 2: do something productive, just like you would expect a friend
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Speaker 2: or family member if you're going to help them out.
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Speaker 2: You know, you'd help them out in a time of need,
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Speaker 2: but you wouldn't help them out forever. And you know,
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Speaker 2: we've got millions of Americans that way. And the crazy
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Speaker 2: thing is we get millions of non Americans. There's tons
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Speaker 2: of tons of non citizens on this list of forty
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Speaker 2: two million people. You think of that forty two million people,
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Speaker 2: that's bigger than the population of Canada.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's amazing. And you know, I saw
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Speaker 1: an article and I hope I get the facts roughly correct,
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Speaker 1: but I think it was during the Biden administration of
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Speaker 1: the asylum applications globally people trying to leave their country
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Speaker 1: seeking asylum in another country. In terms of the global
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Speaker 1: population seeking to do that, fifty percent of those requests
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Speaker 1: came to the United States. I mean, the only reason
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Speaker 1: I bring that up illustrates that, yeah, we are the
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Speaker 1: destination land. People want to leave their ridiculously govern authoritarian
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Speaker 1: regime or communist regime or socialist regime because it's a
8:55
Speaker 1: terrible life and they want to come to America. And
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Speaker 1: the problem with that is conceptually it may be okay
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Speaker 1: because as we get the benefit of all these people
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Speaker 1: and jobs and everything, but in the final analysis, they're
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Speaker 1: automatically entitled forever reason to hook themselves up to our
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Speaker 1: social welfare safety net, which isn't even funded well enough
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Speaker 1: to serve the American people who expect it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, a lot of people on immigration they say, oh,
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Speaker 2: let's just go back to the days of statue of liberty.
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Speaker 2: Give us you're tired, you're poor. Yeah, let's go back
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Speaker 2: to that where like to come here, part of the
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Speaker 2: condition was you get nothing. There is no welfare state
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Speaker 2: to begin with at that point. But even if there were,
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Speaker 2: you can't be a ward of the state. You can't
9:33
Speaker 2: be a burden on the population. You come here, and yeah,
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Speaker 2: you get to be here. It's a lant of opportunity,
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Speaker 2: but you don't get your neighbor's money.
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Speaker 1: Exactly right. And there were no social welfare safety programs
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Speaker 1: when Ellis Island was running. We're overflowing with people. Pause,
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Speaker 1: we're being Congressman Davidson back on to ask you about
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Speaker 1: yesterday's a teriff debate for the Supreme Court of the
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Speaker 1: oral arguments there, and it does not look good for
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump if you can read the justice's tea leaves.
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Speaker 1: What are we going to do about that? Let's he
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Speaker 1: your boybouck about that. From Congressman Warren Davidson the talk
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Speaker 1: station seven fifty five KRCD talk station Brian timeus here
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Speaker 1: with Congressomme Warren Davidson talking shut down and for we
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Speaker 1: real quick here Congress from Davidson before we leave that topic,
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Speaker 1: and I got to ask you about the tariff situation
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Speaker 1: to the extent you've got an opinion or thought on it.
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Speaker 1: But is it possible that, assuming the government reopens under
10:23
Speaker 1: whatever circumstances, that they are going to move toward the
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Speaker 1: omnibus thing? Or are we pass that option? Because that's
10:29
Speaker 1: the kind of scary stuff the sausage making goes on.
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Speaker 1: With omnibus, you end up with a whole lot of
10:35
Speaker 1: individuals getting what they want for their state and usually
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Speaker 1: cost the American tax bar a whole lot of money.
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Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson, Yeah, we're definitely not ready for an omnibus.
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Speaker 2: You know, we still don't even have all the details
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Speaker 2: worked out on like defense appropriations. That's usually one of
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Speaker 2: the big ones that gets a lot of detail added
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Speaker 2: to it. And we have a Defense Authorization Act that
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Speaker 2: needs to pass before we do the defense approbes. So
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Speaker 2: we've got the three bills that's sometimes called a minibus
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Speaker 2: because it's instead of twelve bills, it's essentially a twenty
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Speaker 2: five percent bus, you know. So it's but those bills
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Speaker 2: have all passed the floor of the House. So these
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Speaker 2: aren't like things that haven't passed. These are these have
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Speaker 2: passed the House and they've passed the Senate and uh.
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Speaker 2: And so combining those in a conference thing really isn't
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Speaker 2: the same kind of thing as what you see in
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Speaker 2: an omnibus, because we did have the debate on those
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Speaker 2: bills in the House. We did offer amendments, and you know,
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Speaker 2: we know what's in them, and you know the realities
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Speaker 2: they are all big enough to go, Well, there's some
11:30
Speaker 2: things in there I really don't like. And you know,
11:33
Speaker 2: to be honest, one of the biggest things that I
11:34
Speaker 2: want but we can't get the votes for is I
11:37
Speaker 2: don't think the federal government should send money to any
11:39
Speaker 2: political subdivision except states. Uh. And you know, it's a
11:44
Speaker 2: vital lifeline. We don't really have an easy way to
11:47
Speaker 2: operate today, like, for example, fire departments need direct funding
11:50
Speaker 2: from the federal government to really hit break even if
11:53
Speaker 2: you've got to. There's just so many programs that are
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Speaker 2: for fire for example, these are essential and they're they're
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Speaker 2: not part of and we want them to go there.
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Speaker 2: If you look at how this is broken, just you
12:04
Speaker 2: put lots of tentacles to every political subdivision, and it
12:08
Speaker 2: grows the power of the federal government. They're dependent on
12:11
Speaker 2: the money and they're dependent on the policies. And if
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Speaker 2: you sent the same money to the state, the state
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Speaker 2: would then send it differently and it would increase the
12:19
Speaker 2: power of the states and decrease the role of the
12:21
Speaker 2: federal government. But we don't have the votes for that
12:23
Speaker 2: kind of structural shift right now.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, judgmenth Paul Atono predicted it yesterday said these
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Speaker 1: tariffs that Donald Trump engage in our taxes, he does
12:31
Speaker 1: not have the power to levy taxes. Just boiling down
12:34
Speaker 1: his general points. That appears to be the way the
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Speaker 1: Supreme Court perceived this as well. That the Emergency and
12:38
Speaker 1: Economic Powers Act in nineteen seventy seven, you can declare
12:41
Speaker 1: an emergency. Yeah, but we're not in an emergency. This
12:44
Speaker 1: wasn't a sudden and out of nowhere that this trade
12:47
Speaker 1: problem has been building and has existed for well for
12:50
Speaker 1: one hundred years plus, So you can't declare an emergency
12:53
Speaker 1: for something that's been out in the open. If that's
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Speaker 1: the direction they go and they declare these tariffs unlawful,
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Speaker 1: what's going to happen? I mean, I guess I'm wondering
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Speaker 1: what are the options? Is Congress retroactively ratifying them. But
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Speaker 1: since we're in the middle of a shutdown, I can't
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Speaker 1: really see the Democrats actually giving into Donald Trump on
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Speaker 1: literally anything, So that's unlikely to happen. How do you
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Speaker 1: see this unfolding being unpackaged?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see any way the Democrats give the
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Speaker 2: votes to give President Trump the discretion to do a
13:22
Speaker 2: thing like one of the no brainers that the Senate
13:24
Speaker 2: Democrats rejected. We didn't get a vote on it in
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Speaker 2: the House yet, but it was if people are essential
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Speaker 2: enough to be at work, like air traffic controllers or military,
13:33
Speaker 2: you know, prison guards, whatever, then the payroll clerk is
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Speaker 2: essential to so at least be the people that are
13:41
Speaker 2: working right now. And so they're like, no, no, that
13:44
Speaker 2: gives discretion. As the president, Trump has to see who's working,
13:47
Speaker 2: and so he can just leave people not at work,
13:50
Speaker 2: and so we can't do that. And so I don't
13:52
Speaker 2: see on tariff's Democrats giving the votes for that because
13:55
Speaker 2: it would allow President Trump to make a decision. But
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Speaker 2: that's what he was elected to do, is make decisions.
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Speaker 2: And look, we didn't have free trade before Donald Trump
14:03
Speaker 2: was president. We still don't have free trade, but we
14:06
Speaker 2: moved in that direction and the tariffs were leveraged to
14:09
Speaker 2: do that. And look, I won't say it's not unanticipated
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Speaker 2: that this would happen. I introduced a bill called the
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Speaker 2: Global Trade Accountability Act if this eventuality should get here
14:19
Speaker 2: or whatever. The President is kind of reached a point saying, yeah,
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Speaker 2: we're pretty content with our trade negotiations. And it allows
14:25
Speaker 2: the president to change terms with anybody for up to
14:29
Speaker 2: ninety days at a time, and it doesn't say you
14:32
Speaker 2: have to change them up or down, but you just
14:33
Speaker 2: have to change them within ninety days, and then Congress
14:36
Speaker 2: votes on them. And the goal would be country by
14:38
Speaker 2: country or group of countries by group of countries. Then
14:41
Speaker 2: once you've got some sort of deal locked in, then
14:44
Speaker 2: Congress votes and you lock them in and now you've
14:46
Speaker 2: got some level of certainty. But any future president, they
14:49
Speaker 2: could come in and change tariffs or up to ninety
14:51
Speaker 2: days at a time, and you could say, hey, we're
14:54
Speaker 2: going to put a ten percent tariff and ninety days
14:57
Speaker 2: is coming. The goal would be to use that as
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Speaker 2: leveraged say, look, we can either go up or down,
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Speaker 2: but we can't stay at ten percent.
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Speaker 1: Well, I guess I have to ask the fundamental question
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Speaker 1: the trade agreements that he was able to successfully negotiate.
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Speaker 1: Had he gone out into the world SAMs a power
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Speaker 1: to impose tariffs, but under his power over foreign policy
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Speaker 1: negotiated trade agreements with say some the Chinese or the Japanese,
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Speaker 1: whoever it happens to be, he could do that on
15:22
Speaker 1: his own. The power that gave him to negotiate the
15:25
Speaker 1: trade agreements he's locked in so far came from the tariffs.
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Speaker 1: So is the original sin of his tariff wielding increases
15:32
Speaker 1: that led to a trade agreement? Does that negate the
15:34
Speaker 1: trade agreement? I suppose that's a legitimate question to ask.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this would just be the dumbest self
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Speaker 2: inflicted moment. Yeah, that the Supreme Court could deal to
15:43
Speaker 2: our country. You know, could we do this a little differently? Sure, maybe,
15:47
Speaker 2: but that's for Congress and the president to decide. If
15:50
Speaker 2: Congress wanted to claim that power, we could pass a bill,
15:54
Speaker 2: but we haven't. And Okay, you could say, well, there's
15:56
Speaker 2: a standoff between Congress and the president and the court
16:00
Speaker 2: needs to decide. Okay, maybe that would be the case,
16:03
Speaker 2: but the Congress hasn't said we're going to reclaim this
16:06
Speaker 2: power from the president. You know, there's people that have
16:09
Speaker 2: said we should, but generally that's Democrats. It's party party
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Speaker 2: line fight, with the exception of you know, three or
16:18
Speaker 2: four people in the Senate. Beyond that, it's like, yeah,
16:21
Speaker 2: we want the president to have the power to do
16:23
Speaker 2: this negotiation. And I forget which justice it was. I
16:26
Speaker 2: think it's either Kavanaugh or Roberts who said, look, so
16:29
Speaker 2: let me get this straight. Under the law, as you stated,
16:31
Speaker 2: the president could completely cut off trade, can do a
16:36
Speaker 2: full embargo for every country in the world. Right, Isn't
16:41
Speaker 2: it seemed crazy that he he could do that extreme
16:44
Speaker 2: of a measure, but he couldn't put a one percent
16:48
Speaker 2: tarify And that was the that was the question. And
16:51
Speaker 2: I think as they contemplate this that might resonate. And
16:54
Speaker 2: the other part is just if you look at the
16:56
Speaker 2: effect of what the work has been done in this administration,
17:00
Speaker 2: frankly the last it would completely gut you know, this
17:05
Speaker 2: administration's work in foreign policy, which is very clearly the president's.
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Speaker 1: Round that clearly is well. I suppose Congress is still
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Speaker 1: in recess. You guys, have Kevin been called back to
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Speaker 1: work yet?
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Speaker 2: Have you? Yeah, I mean not for a formal session,
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Speaker 2: so most of us, I don't know about everybody, but
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Speaker 2: you know, I've been back, you know, not every week,
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Speaker 2: but most weeks I end up going back for a
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Speaker 2: few days. Yeah, I was there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not suggesting for a minute you're not doing
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Speaker 1: work or that work is not getting done. But since
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Speaker 1: you haven't been formally called back, you can't vote on say, oh,
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Speaker 1: I don't know released in the Epstein files. People seem
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Speaker 1: to think that that's the basis for the closure right now,
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Speaker 1: and I just want to get that out in the air.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Look, you know, my good friend and Kylie
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Speaker 2: Thomas Massey's get a discharged edition. It will be ripe.
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Speaker 2: And I think, look at they're going to get the signatures.
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Speaker 2: It'll come to the House for the votes. It'll have
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Speaker 2: the votes. But the real problem is isn't whether we
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Speaker 2: get another report or another set of files, or another
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Speaker 2: hearing or whatever. The real question is when is somebody
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Speaker 2: going to jail? And that's the question I want. And
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Speaker 2: one of the hearings that didn't happen because we weren't
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Speaker 2: in session is Pam Bondi coming before the Congress and saying, okay,
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Speaker 2: explain yourself. You hand out binders to the press, You
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Speaker 2: say there's lots of there there. You imply that there's
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Speaker 2: going to be these trials. And then next thing you
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Speaker 2: and President Trump are saying there's nothing there, and you're like, well,
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Speaker 2: please show us the nothing, because you with the binders
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Speaker 2: full of blank pages. I mean, the public needs to
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Speaker 2: know that. And I think at some level that's a
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Speaker 2: valid thing. Well, okay, since you're not explaining, we're going
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Speaker 2: to call the question. Show us the stuff.
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Speaker 1: It invites conspiracy theories and invites thoughts and comments, and
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Speaker 1: you know, you can clear the air, release the dam files,
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Speaker 1: and let's move on with our lives. You know, maybe
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Speaker 1: there is nothing there and we can all say, oops,
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Speaker 1: I guess I shouldn't drawn conclusions but all those conclusions
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Speaker 1: are being drawn because of the craziness surrounding the fact
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Speaker 1: that we haven't seen him yet. Congressman Warren Davidson, appreciate
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Speaker 1: what you're doing for the American people, and I know
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Speaker 1: you're hard at work and spy to the recess, but
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Speaker 1: I'll let you go to go back to the hard
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Speaker 1: work you're doing. And I invite you here on the
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Speaker 2: Always an honor of brain. God bless you and your listeners.
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