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T-Minus 18 Days Until the Midterms · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 2: And a good Friday, everybody. It is the 16th day
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  Speaker 2: of October, 18 days to the midterms. Mark Davis in
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  Speaker 2: for Hugh Hewitt. on this Friday. We've spoken together, I'm sure,
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  Speaker 2: on a number of occasions. I'm kind of the go-to, generic, hit-the-sky-with-a-bat-signal,
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  Speaker 2: fill-in guy across pretty well every show on the Salem
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  Speaker 2: Media Platform at Salem Radio Network, Salem News Channel. So
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  Speaker 2: whether you are listening or watching, we appreciate it, and
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  Speaker 2: we're glad you are here. My usual gig, already finished
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  Speaker 2: with that this morning on 660 AM The Answer. I'm
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  Speaker 2: the morning show host here in Dallas-Fort Worth, and hey,
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  Speaker 2: that's Texas. Got a few things to share about this
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  Speaker 2: Tallarico-Paxton race and how that's likely to go. The nation,
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  Speaker 2: yay the world, have paid some attention to my state,
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  Speaker 2: as they so very often do. But from here in Texas,
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  Speaker 2: I'm also paying attention to things going on wherever you
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  Speaker 2: may be, especially in Minnesota, looking at whether Michelle Tafoya
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  Speaker 2: can win. In Michigan, whether Michiganders are going to allow
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  Speaker 2: a gentleman who appears to be a radical Democrat terrorists
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  Speaker 2: sympathizing Islamist into the Senate. I'm thinking not. I think
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  Speaker 2: things are looking good for Mike Rogers there. But listen,
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  Speaker 2: who knows whose crystal ball has any more value than
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  Speaker 2: anybody else's? I know there's such a thing as pollsters. Boy,
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  Speaker 2: what a rough stretch they're having. And have you noticed,
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  Speaker 2: it's happening here in Texas, maybe in your state as well,
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  Speaker 2: these Democrat leads are starting to shrink. And you don't
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  Speaker 2: have to be Harry Enten to figure this out. Harry
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  Speaker 2: is the very brave, sing-songy gentleman who will stand in
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  Speaker 2: front of a big map. His most famous clip in
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  Speaker 2: the last day or so is him saying, look, if
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  Speaker 2: Republicans have been under-polled, as they so often are, to
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  Speaker 2: the tune of two or three average points, you're looking
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  Speaker 2: at a 53-47 Republican Senate and the Republicans keep the House.
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  Speaker 2: And this guy works for CNN. mysteriously. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how he keeps pulling a page. Well, Scott Jennings works
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  Speaker 2: for CNN. The mysteries abound. The mystery here in Texas,
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  Speaker 2: of course, has involved where in the world was James
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  Speaker 2: Tallarico for the better part of two weeks? I believe
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  Speaker 2: that ship has sailed. I don't believe he was in
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  Speaker 2: a mental hospital in Ohio. But I also don't believe
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  Speaker 2: really anything that this campaign says. If the candidate himself
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  Speaker 2: can lie with relaxed ease on various issues, such as
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  Speaker 2: his sudden discovery of moderation on things from trans issues
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  Speaker 2: to borders to dismantling ICE, etc., etc. He is every
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  Speaker 2: bit the radical that AOC, that Abdul El-Sayed, is just
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  Speaker 2: in a more meek countenance here in Texas. And I
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  Speaker 2: think Ken Paxton's going to beat him. And we'll talk
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  Speaker 2: a little bit about that. And in the next hour,
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  Speaker 2: let me have you write down a phone number.
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  Speaker 3: 1-800-520-1234.
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  Speaker 2: 1-800-520-1234. We're going to be spending some time with Eli
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  Speaker 2: Lake here in just a little bit from Free Press.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to be spending some time with our friend
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  Speaker 2: Matthew Continetti, a scholar at AEI and frequent writer in
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  Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal. Sort of our Friday guys to
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  Speaker 2: sling hot topics and take a look at what's happening
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  Speaker 2: in the news. But by the time we get to
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  Speaker 2: hour number two, I really want to mix it up
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  Speaker 2: with you. So get ready. Have that phone number at
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  Speaker 2: the ready. Be ready. Let's go 1-800-520-1234. You can interact
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  Speaker 2: with me further on Twitter on X at Mark Davis,
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  Speaker 2: M-A-R-K Davis. And so that's how we hang out together.
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  Speaker 2: And so I'm glad that we're hanging out together because
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  Speaker 2: we have plenty to talk about here at T-minus 18
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  Speaker 2: days to the midterms. A lot of it's midterm related,
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  Speaker 2: but there are some things in the news in just
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  Speaker 2: the last 24 hours and some things in about the
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  Speaker 2: last two hours. that let me address these pretty quickly here. First,
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  Speaker 2: as we talk about just the normal grind of going
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  Speaker 2: through the various aspects of midterms and politics and polls
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  Speaker 2: and debates and all of this, Michelle Tafoya and Peggy
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  Speaker 2: Flanagan had a debate during the day today. Who got
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  Speaker 2: to see that? Well, we did. Got an excerpt or
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  Speaker 2: two from that. But as we go about the normal business,
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  Speaker 2: something comes along and grabs you by the heart, as happened...
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  Speaker 2: yesterday in Bend, Oregon, at this school, where a 16-year-old,
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  Speaker 2: a 16-year-old, shot his way into the building and killed
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  Speaker 2: an adult. Three kids, wounded at least a couple of
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  Speaker 2: other people, and then was taken out by this kind
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  Speaker 2: of good Samaritan, seems to be a mild, a hero
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  Speaker 2: of the highest order. somebody who I think was probably
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  Speaker 2: breaking all kinds of Oregon and school district laws by
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  Speaker 2: being armed on the property, but thank God he was.
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  Speaker 2: There's an old saying, guns don't kill people, gun-free zones
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  Speaker 2: kill people. And God only knows how high this death
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  Speaker 2: toll would have gone, but for this hero. So thank
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  Speaker 2: God for him. And while invoking God, as we should do,
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  Speaker 2: let us lift our prayers for healing, for comfort, for
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  Speaker 2: anybody who's hurting, for anybody who's lost anybody. And of course,
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  Speaker 2: like clockwork straight from central casting along come the gun grabbers,
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  Speaker 2: the people who will tell you, oh, we have to
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  Speaker 2: do something, do something. We're tired of all this inactivity.
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  Speaker 2: We do have to do something. We have to pray hard,
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  Speaker 2: change society, and look deeply inwardly at ourselves. And that's
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  Speaker 2: harder than just passing some new stupid law that won't
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  Speaker 2: work and just makes guns harder to get for law-abiding people,
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  Speaker 2: the gun grabbers will also say we're not doing anything.
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  Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you we are doing something. When
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  Speaker 2: we pray, when we put those prayers into action, when
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  Speaker 2: we fight, it's way harder to pass some stupid law
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  Speaker 2: than it is to look at yourself, look at your family,
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  Speaker 2: look at your society, look at your world, and try
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  Speaker 2: to change it by guiding people toward godly behavior. That's
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  Speaker 2: real heavy lifting, and the left just doesn't want to
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  Speaker 2: do it. The other story of just the last couple
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  Speaker 2: of hours, kind of saw this one coming, and God
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  Speaker 2: bless her. She seems like a nice lady. She's a
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  Speaker 2: smart lady. May or may not be an attorney, a lawyer.
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  Speaker 2: As soon as we were dancing on the head of
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  Speaker 2: a pin about the meaning of that, I thought, she's
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  Speaker 2: not long for this world. Katie Zachariah, out of here
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  Speaker 2: as press secretary. What was that, five days? Here's cut 15.
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  Speaker 2: Here's President Trump on the gaggle, on the White House
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  Speaker 2: lawn gaggle. Talking a little bit. Let's run about a
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  Speaker 2: minute of this and I'll come back out. They were
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  Speaker 2: asking about what Katie Zachariah's fate would be.
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  Speaker 4: Go.
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  Speaker 2: Katie Zachariah.
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  Speaker 5: I told Katie that, in my opinion, she was treated very,
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  Speaker 5: very unfairly, very unfairly by the news. Let's call it
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  Speaker 5: the fake news or the news or the media, any
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  Speaker 5: term you want. And I said, Katie, do you need this?
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  Speaker 5: I don't think you need this. And we're talking about
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  Speaker 5: doing something. We like Katie a lot. I think she's
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  Speaker 5: been really, really treated very unfairly. What do you think
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  Speaker 5: you're talking about?
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  Speaker 6: Not, no, no.
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  Speaker 5: We're talking about, I want her to have a good life.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to have a life like she's led
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  Speaker 5: in the last three days. She is being brutalized by
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  Speaker 5: the media. I think very unfairly, but she's been brutalized
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  Speaker 5: by the media. So I said, when I get back,
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  Speaker 5: we're going to Georgia right now.
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  Speaker 4: We have a.
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  Speaker 5: Tremendous crowd of people, like, record-setting.
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  Speaker 2: You know, these— I don't know if you know it.
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  Speaker 5: These rallies are turning everything around.
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  Speaker 6: These rallies are legendary.
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  Speaker 5: These are like the rallies I've had. And I didn't
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  Speaker 5: think I'd have to do it, but I want to
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  Speaker 5: make sure.
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  Speaker 2: Because what we with with our remaining minute here in
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  Speaker 2: this segment, President Trump is he's what he's doing here
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  Speaker 2: is showing grace and being nice. I also want to
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  Speaker 2: show grace and be nice. She was not up to
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  Speaker 2: this job. You could you could see it from the
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  Speaker 2: very front. And the people said, oh, she's nervous. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: I've been nervous, too. We've all been nervous. This was
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  Speaker 2: not nerves. This was a job. Pardon the phraseology. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: I don't even want to say it was too big
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  Speaker 2: for her. That's like a slight to her. There's no
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  Speaker 2: sin in not having this be your perfect skill set. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: guess what? It turns out this was not her perfect
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  Speaker 2: skill set. She is an accomplished woman. She's done a lot.
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  Speaker 2: And President Trump was right. It was going to be
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  Speaker 2: a rough ride. And one of the reasons it was
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  Speaker 2: going to be a rough ride is I think there
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  Speaker 2: would have been more deer in the headlights, cringe moments.
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  Speaker 2: And that's not that just ain't good. It's just not good.
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  Speaker 2: So I wish her nothing but good things. She's incredibly talented.
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  Speaker 2: She's going to find something she's actually talented at and
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  Speaker 2: go do that. Meanwhile, we got to find somebody who's
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  Speaker 2: good at this because I think it might be a tie.
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  Speaker 2: My two favorite White House press secretaries forever. It was
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  Speaker 2: Tony Snow. And lately, I got to tell you, I
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  Speaker 2: think that Caroline Leavitt pulled up into a tie for
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  Speaker 2: that just because the way she, with such toughness and competence,
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  Speaker 2: just mowed down some of these jackals in the White
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  Speaker 2: House press room. I think they broke the mold when
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  Speaker 2: they made her. But there are people.
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  Speaker 2: Who I think could be really, really good at this.
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  Speaker 2: One of them is a colleague of ours. Everybody says, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: about Scott Jennings. I know nothing about that. I have
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  Speaker 2: no inside Salem Intel. I will. tell you this. When
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  Speaker 2: your country calls, you know, you answer. And if the
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  Speaker 2: president says, I need you to do this, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
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  Speaker 2: But do you walk away from that gig? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is a pretty sweet ride to conservative media. And
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  Speaker 2: I think Scott has some speaking engagements. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: this is his next dream job. They'll find somebody, though.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm Mark Davison for you. Glad you found us
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  Speaker 2: on Salem Radio Network, Salem News Channel. We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 2: The great Chuck Berry, he may have no particular place
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  Speaker 2: to go. We have plenty of places to go, and
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  Speaker 2: one of the places I'm going to go is to
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  Speaker 2: the calendar to send you to Sunday, day after tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: Chuck Berry's 100th birthday. Boom, there's some history. Hey, speaking
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  Speaker 2: of history, Breaking History is the brand-new history podcast from
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  Speaker 2: Free Press. Free Press guy is Eli Lake, also contributing
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  Speaker 2: editor of commentary. Let's talk to Eli about a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of things. Eli, Mark Davison for Hugh Hewitt. How are
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  Speaker 2: you doing, sir? Welcome. Happy Friday.
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  Speaker 7: Happy Friday to you. Great to be here, Mark.
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  Speaker 2: Let's cover some things in the news this week and
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  Speaker 2: then talk about the podcast, which I plan to consume
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  Speaker 2: as soon as I can. Track for me, if you will,
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  Speaker 2: the path that Abdul Al-Sayed is taking to try to
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  Speaker 2: convince people that there is no family connection to the
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  Speaker 2: Muslim Brotherhood.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I think the term that we would use is
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  Speaker 8: he's brazening his way, brazening his way through it. which
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  Speaker 8: is I think he knows that he has told a fib,
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  Speaker 8: and he's just hoping that, you know, keep your head
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  Speaker 8: down and keep going forward until Election Day. You know,
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  Speaker 8: this gets into a very interesting kind of issue for him,
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  Speaker 8: which is that he wins the primary by exciting a
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  Speaker 8: kind of base that's centered around radical college students at
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  Speaker 8: Ann Arbor, And, you know, the Dearborn Muslim community that
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  Speaker 8: really does think that Hamas were the good guys on
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  Speaker 8: October 7th. And so this is the center of his problems,
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  Speaker 8: because when he's running in this general right now, it
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  Speaker 8: was the primary was closer than I think the polling thought.
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  Speaker 7: And I think that he wanted he thought it would be.
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  Speaker 8: So now you've got a situation in Michigan where he
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  Speaker 8: risks if he kind of goes too far distancing himself
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  Speaker 8: from the Muslim Brotherhood, he alienates a kind of core
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  Speaker 8: constituency that he wants really big turnout from, potentially tamping
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  Speaker 8: down enthusiasm among his base.
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  Speaker 7: And then if.
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  Speaker 8: He doesn't, then I think he's obviously going to lose
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  Speaker 8: a lot of Jewish voters in Michigan, but also maybe
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  Speaker 8: a lot of other more moderate Democrats, a lot of
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  Speaker 8: African Americans. So I think he's in a pickle, although...
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  Speaker 8: you know, this may be a wave year, Mark, and
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  Speaker 8: there's nothing, it won't matter in the end. And he'll
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  Speaker 8: just get through because, you know, the price of gasoline
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  Speaker 8: is too high and inflation is too bad. And, you know,
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  Speaker 8: Trump is in foul odor.
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  Speaker 2: Man, I hope that's not true. I know, I know
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  Speaker 2: it's a possibility. I've been running a little, little bit
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  Speaker 2: on the show here in Texas called Operation Prove Them Wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Here's T-minus 18 days, prove the pollsters wrong, some laggard
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  Speaker 2: Republicans wrong, the media narratives wrong. That maybe, just maybe,
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  Speaker 2: the positives that we've been able to glean for the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of years, fixing the border, crimes getting better,
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  Speaker 2: gender sanity, environmental sanity. I know, Iran and affordability, Iran
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  Speaker 2: and affordability, but I'm hoping things go a little better.
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  Speaker 2: What you've described there in terms of Abdul taking a
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  Speaker 2: risk and trying to distance from people who are in
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  Speaker 2: his base, is this a clumsy analogy? I sense right
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  Speaker 2: here in my state that Brother Tallarico has a similar problem.
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  Speaker 2: He's trying to seem a little less crazy, a little
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  Speaker 2: less radical in order to win a statewide race, but
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  Speaker 2: the trans-friendly, LGBTQ-friendly, environmental radical base that has loved him
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  Speaker 2: in Austin is saying, wait a minute, where are you going?
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  Speaker 2: We want you as you were to win and be
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  Speaker 2: a senator in Texas.
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  Speaker 8: I think it's a little different with Tallarico because I
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  Speaker 8: think Tallarico himself is maybe, it doesn't have the kind
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  Speaker 8: of history that like an Al-Sayed does in terms of
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  Speaker 8: these issues. I'm aware that he said, Um, things like that,
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  Speaker 8: you know, God is non-binary and things like that, which
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  Speaker 8: are kind of goofy and make for funny soundbites. But
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  Speaker 8: for the most part, I think you've got like, I just,
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  Speaker 8: it's also a different personality. Um, Tallarico, whatever you want
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  Speaker 8: to say about him is kind of a cool, a
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  Speaker 8: cool cucumber, you know, um, uh, El Said is easily agitated,
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  Speaker 8: a bit of a hothead. So I do think that
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  Speaker 8: it's a little bit different. Um, You know, obviously, it
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  Speaker 8: would be an extraordinary story if a Democrat got elected
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  Speaker 8: statewide in Texas. Hasn't happened since Ann Richards. So that would,
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  Speaker 8: you know, that's very interesting. And I think in this
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  Speaker 8: particular case, the Republican Party fielded a very weak candidate
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  Speaker 8: in Ken Paxton. I think that Cornyn would have done
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  Speaker 8: a lot better, and a lot of that had to
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  Speaker 8: do with Trump.
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  Speaker 7: So.
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  Speaker 8: you know, this is, the race is much closer than
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  Speaker 8: it should be. I think it's a little bit different.
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  Speaker 8: I think, you know, Michigan, on the other hand, is
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  Speaker 8: a place, it is a battleground state, but, you know,
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  Speaker 8: it tends to vote statewide for Democrats. So, you know,
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  Speaker 8: that is on El-Said's side. But the other thing is
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  Speaker 8: that El-Said really, I mean, like he defined himself in
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  Speaker 8: the primary in such a way as very much out
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  Speaker 8: of the mainstream. I take your point on the gender
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  Speaker 8: stuff and the Austin, Texas stuff, but I don't think
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  Speaker 8: Tallarico ever really kind of ran on it. With El Said,
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  Speaker 8: he's got to basically try to, if he's going to
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  Speaker 8: do a walkback, and it hasn't been a very successful one,
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  Speaker 8: I should say, you know, what he's got to do
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  Speaker 8: is kind of contend with the Al-Sayed of only like
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  Speaker 8: three months ago.
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  Speaker 7: So, I mean, which is, I think, a different kind
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  Speaker 7: of problem.
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  Speaker 2: The Tallarico stuff, some of it is like six years old.
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  Speaker 2: With Al-Sayed, it might have been this morning. In our
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  Speaker 2: last couple of minutes, Eli Lake, of course, commentary, of course,
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  Speaker 2: the Free Press. Tell me about Breaking History, the brand
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  Speaker 2: new podcast from you, Free Press.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, we've had it.
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  Speaker 8: We had our first season that actually started in the
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  Speaker 8: beginning of really with the inauguration of Donald Trump. And
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  Speaker 8: so there's already a lot, a lot of great, uh, programs.
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  Speaker 8: It's a narrative history podcast, meaning they're like audio documentaries. Uh, we,
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  Speaker 8: what we try to do is explain in every episode, uh,
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  Speaker 8: something that's happening in the news, uh, through, uh, a
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  Speaker 8: historical episode. Um, I put a lot of work into
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  Speaker 8: it and we do have a special season coming out
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  Speaker 8: next month for breaking history, which will, because we've been
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  Speaker 8: a little bit of a hiatus, which will be a,
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  Speaker 8: six-part series on the Bush dynasty and kind of looking
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  Speaker 8: at the Bush political dynasty kind of from the context
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  Speaker 8: of the 10-year anniversary of Trump winning his first presidential election.
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  Speaker 8: So I think the work is terrific. It's the kind
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  Speaker 8: of thing that a lot of people tell me, you know,
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  Speaker 8: they listen once and then they want to listen again.
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  Speaker 8: So I encourage everybody to go to the Breaking History
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  Speaker 8: feed and catch up if you haven't heard it before.
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  Speaker 8: on some of our older episodes, because I think they've
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  Speaker 8: aged very well.
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  Speaker 7: Some really good ones in there.
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  Speaker 2: I look forward to it. I'll tell you what, having
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  Speaker 2: done a deep dive into the Bushes, a family I
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  Speaker 2: know well, I've hung out with George W. for a
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: long period, back when he was governor of Texas. So
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: you have Bush 41, Bush 43. I think Jeb seems
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: to hate Trump less, and I think George P. is
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: trying to blaze a different trail. I don't think the
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Bush family is done. 30 seconds, what do you think?
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  Speaker 8: Well, you know, I actually, that's a great point, the
• 17:48
  Speaker 8: Bush family not being done. I just think that they're
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: a remarkable family in a lot of ways. I think
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: they have a lot more accomplishments in a lot of
• 17:58
  Speaker 8: ways than the Kennedys. But the other thing is that
• 18:00
  Speaker 8: they managed to kind of produce, you know, excellent leaders
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  Speaker 8: long after the family itself had attained generational wealth. Usually
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: the generational wealth is a way that, you know, it
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: kind of depletes the ranks, so to speak, because you know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: the progeny get used to living the good life and
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: who wants to, you know, kind of throw their hat
• 18:20
  Speaker 8: into the political arena.
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  Speaker 7: But, you know, Jeb, George W., George H.W. and George H.W.
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: 's father, Prescott, all extraordinary, very disciplined, high achievers. But
• 18:35
  Speaker 8: you'll have to listen in because I try to tell
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: that story. And I think that it is a it
• 18:39
  Speaker 8: is a very it's a story of civility in many
• 18:42
  Speaker 8: ways in politics that maybe is lacking today.
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• 18:50
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• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Let's buzz up our buddy Matt Continetti next to get
• 18:54
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  Speaker 5: Well, the first.
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• 19:20
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• 19:22
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• 19:32
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• 19:36
  Speaker 2: There's some working man's dead. from 1970. See, we're here
• 19:40
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• 19:43
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• 19:46
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• 19:48
  Speaker 2: It's always great to hear him. on the Hugh Hewitt Show,
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  Speaker 8: Hey, Matt.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Happy Friday. How are you doing?
• 19:57
  Speaker 10: Happy Friday, Mark.
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: Nice to be with you.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Nice to be with you. You have just written a
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: thing about affordability that feels like mind-reading. Because I've been
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: trying to find ways for Republicans to navigate through Iran
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: and affordability, the two, the twin albatrosses that are supposed
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: to be dragging us down. One of the things I've
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: said is if affordability is a concern of yours, take
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: a look at the blue states and take a look
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: at the red states. Which ones are more affordable? Let's
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: run America like a red state. You have a deeper
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: dive into some specifics where you essentially say, hey, you
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: want things to be more affordable? Here are some things
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: we can do. Let's work our way down that list.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: And why don't you start us off by talking about
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: some of the things that government can do to make
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: things more affordable?
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: Well, sure.
• 20:43
  Speaker 10: I wrote this week about how we're about to have
• 20:45
  Speaker 10: the third straight election in a row dominated by the
• 20:49
  Speaker 10: issue of inflation and rising prices. 2022, 2024, and now 2026.
• 20:56
  Speaker 10: Each of those elections, inflation and rising prices was the
• 20:58
  Speaker 10: most important issue. And in each of those elections, incumbents lost.
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: And that's likely to happen in a few weeks. So
• 21:08
  Speaker 10: the question is, how do you stop it? How do
• 21:10
  Speaker 10: you actually address this issue so that prices become more reasonable?
• 21:14
  Speaker 10: And the key, in my view, Mark, is having incomes
• 21:18
  Speaker 10: grow faster than inflation. And so I turned to history.
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: And we went through a period of the great inflation before,
• 21:24
  Speaker 10: beginning with President Johnson and running up through President Carter.
• 21:29
  Speaker 10: And what you saw there was Americans hate inflation, they
• 21:33
  Speaker 10: hate rising prices, and they take it out on the
• 21:36
  Speaker 10: party in power, whichever party that is. And so it
• 21:39
  Speaker 10: was Democratic presidents, Republican presidents like Nixon and Ford, Democrats
• 21:44
  Speaker 10: like Johnson and Carter, they all suffered from inflation until
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: Ronald Reagan had the courage to do two things, stand
• 21:54
  Speaker 10: by Paul Volcker as Paul Volcker kind of ringed the
• 21:57
  Speaker 10: excess money out of the system, and then cut taxes
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: and regulations and spending in order to allow Americans to compete,
• 22:06
  Speaker 10: to choose for themselves, and to innovate. That seems to
• 22:09
  Speaker 10: me to be the recipe we need today to address
• 22:13
  Speaker 10: the affordability issue.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at those things, those suggestions, and
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: see how many of them track with things President Trump
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: is likely to do. Tightening credit, as you say, until
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: inflation is below the Fed's 2% target. I guess that's
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: on the table. Cutting taxes, certainly something Trump has a
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: predilection for doing. A better regulatory environment, absolutely. I'm a
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: pretty vocal daily supporter of President Trump. I thank God
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: he won every day. But the guy is not the
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: biggest spending cutter. Never has been, and I don't know
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: if he ever will be.
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: No, that's true. We have had some cuts, actually.
• 22:52
  Speaker 10: I mean, there were cuts to Medicaid in the One
• 22:54
  Speaker 10: Big Beautiful Bill Act that were important. Russ Vogt, the
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: chairman of the OMB, the guy who runs the budget
• 23:02
  Speaker 10: in the White House, he, of course, wants to tackle spending,
• 23:05
  Speaker 10: the non-defense discretionary spending. The problem for President Trump is,
• 23:10
  Speaker 10: of course, he's made two big choices, I think, that
• 23:14
  Speaker 10: have contributed to the pressure people are feeling on prices.
• 23:18
  Speaker 10: The first is his tariffs last year, and the second
• 23:22
  Speaker 10: is the war with Iran. Now, I happen to support
• 23:25
  Speaker 10: the war with Iran, but you have to understand that
• 23:30
  Speaker 10: that has created an increase in fuel prices, and so
• 23:34
  Speaker 10: I've always thought that the one way to get those
• 23:36
  Speaker 10: fuel prices down would be to finish the job sooner
• 23:39
  Speaker 10: rather than later against the Iranian regime.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I'd say let's do 30 seconds and we'll expand on
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: it if we need to. What does finishing the job
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: look like?
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: How?
• 23:51
  Speaker 10: Well, it means taking the fight back to Iran, not
• 23:55
  Speaker 10: just this economic blockade that is working significantly, but actually
• 23:59
  Speaker 10: resuming military operations against the regime. President Trump says he
• 24:03
  Speaker 10: won't do that until after the midterm election, but that
• 24:06
  Speaker 10: means those prices are still going to remain high for
• 24:08
  Speaker 10: the next two weeks.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Matthew Continetti is here. We're going to take a pause.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: We're going to come back because he did another piece
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: of writing about sort of Trump's Senate coattails. President Trump
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: is fond of saying as he hits the campaign trail,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: vote like I'm on the ballot. I've been saying for
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: a while, he pretty well is, or at least the
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: second half of his second term is, if we're expecting
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: him to get anything done, Republicans have to keep power. Mr.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Continetti and I return in just a moment. Mark Davison
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: for Hugh Hewitt, Salem Radio Network, Salem News Channel. Stay here.
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: We got the afternoon.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: You got this room for two.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Mark Davis in for Hugh Hewitt. Little John Mayer, that's
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: a strange cat, but a talented dude. And Your Body
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: is a Wonderland, he's 49 today, Mr. Mayer, on our
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• 25:10
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Let's talk. We're talking a little bit and focusing a
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: lot on who's going to win in the midterms. And
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: the definition of a midterm is that the president's not
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: on the ballot. President Trump says, please vote like I am.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: And I think there's a strong point to be made
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: there in terms of how the last two years of
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: President Trump's presidency will go, how his legacy will be remembered.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: And as our guest, Matthew Continetti, mentions in a Wall
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Street Journal piece just a few days ago, Republican Senate losses,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: if there's a kind of bloodletting that we're looking at,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: that pain can be lasting because as you say, Matt, hello,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: six-year terms, Trump will be long gone and some of
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: these scoundrels could still be there.
• 25:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right, Mark. President Trump saying, you know, vote
• 25:55
  Speaker 10: as if I were on the ballot because one, he
• 25:58
  Speaker 10: knows the stakes of the election, but two, you know,
• 26:00
  Speaker 10: so much of President Trump's support comes from voters who
• 26:04
  Speaker 10: are really attached to him more than they're attached to
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: the Republican Party and who may not come out to
• 26:09
  Speaker 10: every election if it's not a presidential election or if
• 26:13
  Speaker 10: Donald Trump isn't running for office. And so he's making
• 26:16
  Speaker 10: that appeal. But it matters because the senators elected this
• 26:21
  Speaker 10: year won't be up for reelection until the end of
• 26:24
  Speaker 10: the next presidential term. So we can forecast a scenario
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: of what that might mean if the Democrats have unified
• 26:33
  Speaker 10: control of Congress. for the next two years under President Trump.
• 26:37
  Speaker 10: But it would also lay the foundation for a potential
• 26:40
  Speaker 10: Democratic presidency in 2029. And that's what happened in 2014
• 26:48
  Speaker 10: when Republicans had a great election and the Republicans elected
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: in that year became key votes for President Trump's agenda
• 26:56
  Speaker 10: after he replaced Barack Obama. And it also happened back
• 26:59
  Speaker 10: in 2006, which was a Democratic year, And the senators
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: elected in that year ended up voting for Barack Obama's priorities.
• 27:07
  Speaker 10: So that's why I think the Senate races matter a
• 27:10
  Speaker 10: great deal, even more than the House races.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Makes sense. 2014 gave us Ben Sasse, Tom Cotton, Joni Ernst.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, again, hello, six-year terms. So, look, let us stipulate,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: nobody has a perfect crystal ball. Everybody's just going on gut.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's just my wishful thinking, my bubble,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: or whatever, but I find myself, as I see polls tighten,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: if I see Harry Enten anymore, I'm going to start
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: talking red wave on CNN, and I'm only half kidding.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: He's talking about these poll leads shrinking, everything, just about
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: every swing state, every battleground state is within the margin
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: of error. So I don't know, Matt, dare we dream here,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: or do you think ultimately we're just kind of deluding ourselves?
• 27:56
  Speaker 10: No, I think Republicans have a real shot when races
• 27:59
  Speaker 10: are within the the margin of error that makes them toss-ups,
• 28:03
  Speaker 10: and toss-ups can help Republicans.
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: I think the key stakes, the key.
• 28:08
  Speaker 10: Issues right now, the key races right now, are the
• 28:11
  Speaker 10: races that are actually kind of toward the north of
• 28:13
  Speaker 10: our country, places like Maine, where Susan Collins is running,
• 28:17
  Speaker 10: in New Hampshire, in Michigan, of course, probably the most
• 28:21
  Speaker 10: important race between Mike Rogers and Abdul Al-Sayed, and in Minnesota,
• 28:25
  Speaker 10: where it's not covered much by the national press, but
• 28:28
  Speaker 10: Michelle Tafoya is making a real race in the Senate
• 28:31
  Speaker 10: there against Peggy Flanagan, who's been mired in the welfare
• 28:35
  Speaker 10: fraud scandal of Governor Tim Walz's administration.
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: So these are real close contests.
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: Of course, in some of the red states, like Texas,
• 28:44
  Speaker 10: that race is closing in favor of Ken Paxton. Ohio,
• 28:47
  Speaker 10: John Husted seems to be making up the gap. In Iowa,
• 28:51
  Speaker 10: Ashley Hinson seems to be pulling slightly ahead. So that
• 28:55
  Speaker 10: means that the Senate has a real chance of remaining
• 28:58
  Speaker 10: in Republican hands And not only will that make President
• 29:01
  Speaker 10: Trump's last two years easier, because for one thing, he'll
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: be able to appoint people to cabinet positions and to
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: nominate judges, including Supreme Court judges. But it will also,
• 29:12
  Speaker 10: I think, blunt any Democratic advances in 2028. And of course,
• 29:17
  Speaker 10: that's when we really have to start to worry, because
• 29:20
  Speaker 10: if the Democrats come in with the full control of
• 29:22
  Speaker 10: government in 2029, that's when you see the end of
• 29:25
  Speaker 10: the filibuster. That's when you see the end of The
• 29:29
  Speaker 10: Electoral College, the packing of the Supreme Court, admitting D.C.
• 29:33
  Speaker 10: and Puerto Rico as states, just a truly revolutionary agenda.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Let me just put that on an endless loop. and
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: maybe that will motivate people to get off the couch.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Our last couple of minutes with Matt Continetti, you mentioned
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: that northern tier of states. In Maine, we have an
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: incumbent woman, and in Minnesota, we have a candidate who's
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: a woman, and Susan Collins and Michelle Tafoya, who because
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: of the states in which they are running, neither Minnesota
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: or nor Maine is going to give you Ted Cruz
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: or Rand Paul or Mike Lee. These are women who
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: have to run with an R by their name and
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: kind of do some distancing from Trump. Have you noticed
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Michelle Tafoya, I think, has an ad that says, I'm
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: a proud pro-choice Republican. Well, that's not my favorite thing,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: but in Minnesota it might be if it's called winning.
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 30:20
  Speaker 10: I think the candidates who are doing the best or
• 30:23
  Speaker 10: are doing the most surprising efforts right now, Mark, are
• 30:27
  Speaker 10: the ones who have profiles that are somewhat detached from
• 30:30
  Speaker 10: President Trump. And that's exactly Tafoya. That, of course, is
• 30:34
  Speaker 10: Susan Collins. And then it also applies to Sununu in
• 30:37
  Speaker 10: New Hampshire and even to some extent Rogers in Michigan,
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: who is distancing himself from Trump on some issues, even
• 30:44
  Speaker 10: though they're unified in their opposition positions. to Abdul Al-Sayed.
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: It's the candidates who have the closest relationships with Trump,
• 30:52
  Speaker 10: like Michael Watley in North Carolina or Ken Paxton in Texas,
• 30:56
  Speaker 10: that I think are proving the most disappointing as candidates
• 31:00
  Speaker 10: and have had the higher hill to climb to win
• 31:04
  Speaker 10: their races.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Matthew Continetti. AEI, Wall Street Journal all the time, here
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: all the time, and I'm just grateful to be here
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  Speaker 2: on some of these days so I can talk to him.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Thank you, man. Have a great weekend. Much appreciate your
• 31:14
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• 35:18
  Speaker 4: in 1956. And I was thinking, I guess, yeah, I
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: got seniority on you by a couple of years. And
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: I was thinking maybe Tallarico had a bad bowl of
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: trans Texas tofu in Austin because I can't figure out
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: who this guy is appealing to because I don't remember
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: meeting any anti-capitalist, gun-hating socialist drag queens back in Tyler.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Well, not in Tyler, but in Houston, in the blue
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: dots in our red state, in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: El Paso, Austin, parts of college towns like Lubbock, but
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: not big parts, Red Raiders, guns up. You will find
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: people and enough people that could make this a pretty
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: close race. There were enough people who are Democrats. Actually,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: we have Democrats in Texas. We just don't let them
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: run the place. I mean, you may recall that Beto
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: O'Rourke did come within two and a half points of
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Ted Cruz. Is that kind of thing possible here? I
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: think it is, but I don't think it's going to happen.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I think that an anti-gun, anti-oil, anti-meat cheerleader for abortion
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: and child sex changes is not going to win our state.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: What kind of gut feeling do you have?
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I moved out to California when I
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: was about seven, but I had no idea that the
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: mentality had changed so much or the demographics changed. But
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: everybody I knew growing up, including my own family, was
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: in love with church. We had an oil well dividend.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: It's small, but in our family we had an oil
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: well dividend. I slipped 10 feet from my.
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: 22 caliber.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: When I was like nine years old, I grew up
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: with guns and I knew the proper use of them
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: and how to use them. And we had a weekly barbecue,
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: you know, so I just don't get what's going on
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: in Texas. But I just I can't believe people are
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: stupid enough to elect some crackpot like Tallarico.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to be. And Bill, thank
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: you for the stories of a childhood draped in church, family,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: guns and barbecue. I think I think on which Tallarico
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: is wrong on virtually all of the above. I don't
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: believe for a minute that he's a big fan of barbecue.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I don't believe for a minute that he's a big
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: fan of church, at least churches that use the actual Bible.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: In the weird Bible that James Tallarico reads, God is
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: okay with abortion. God is at least ambivalent on carving
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: up the healthy genitalia of children. Bobby is 11. He
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: thinks he wants to be a girl. Listen, if you
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: want to be okay with that, you can be okay
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: with that. We have freedom of speech and freedom of thought.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: But the minute you have those views, that baby killing
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: is okay, that child sex changes are okay, and you
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: say that Jesus is on your side, then we get
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: just from a difference of opinion into the genuine world
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: of heresy and blasphemy. And that is the world where
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Tallarico resides. And I don't see that prevailing in 18 days.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: We're in Scottsdale, Arizona. Jim, hey, Mark Davison for Hugh. Welcome.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: How are you?
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: I'm fine, Mark. Good to talk to you. I merely
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: wanted to make the point that as much as I
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: support President Trump, I think it's a mistake for him
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: to put himself on the ballot, so to speak. Listen,
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: we're Republicans, okay? We can respond to issues. Issues can
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: motivate us. We don't need a demagogic empty suit like Obama.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. Number one, stop, because that's a weird
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: stretch for you to go on to say, I support
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: President Trump, and then 30 seconds later compare him to
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: a demagogic empty suit. You're right that I'd like to
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: think that everybody... has a brainstem and a motivated heart
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: to just look at the way the playing field goes
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: and say, hey, we like the Trump agenda as conservatives.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: We understand affordability. Iran, we get it. But we trust
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: him more than Democrats to make those better. The current
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Democrats who do have are crazy. So we're going to
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: crawl on broken glass to go vote. I'd love to
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: think that that was enough. It may not be. President
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Trump is a magnet for turnout, a magnet for motivation.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: a magnet to these rallies. So I find it hard
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: to see why you would think that the rallies are
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: not a good thing.
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: The rallies are fine, Mark, but what are we going
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: to do in 2028 when we don't have Trump and
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: we need to vote and get motivated because of the issues?
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Again, we're Republicans. It will be. 2028 will be about
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: the issues, but it will also be about the candidate.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: And it appears that it will either be J.D. Vance,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: about whom many good things can be said, or Marco Rubio,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: about whom maybe even more good things can be said,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: or somebody we're not even talking about. I would virtually
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: guarantee that the Republican nominee will have at least a
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: substantial MAGA flavor. So candidate plus issues will motivate us
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: in 2028 as well.
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: One last point. I wasn't comparing Trump to Obama. I
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: was just comparing what motivates Democrats to vote. In other words, figure.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: Trump is far from anything like that.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: No, I understand completely. And I appreciate you. I'm glad
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: you were here, and thanks. And I think if I
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: thought that, listen, do I want Trump going to Maine?
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think Susan Collins wants Trump going to Maine.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: So let's let's let her just beat this character up
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: there in Maine. I don't know if Trump needs to
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: go to Minnesota to hang with Michelle Tafoya. She's doing
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: a little bit of distancing. It's a balancing act of
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: embracing and distancing and a little bit of both. Again,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: in states like Minnesota and in states like Maine, in Texas,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I think Trump's here about every three days for Paxman.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I think that's going to accrue to his benefit. We
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: are in Pittsburgh. Joan, hey. Mark Davis in for Hugh. Hi, Joan.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: You're in Pittsburgh. It's nice to have you. Hello.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: Hi.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: What I'm calling about, I mean, there's a lot of,
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: you know, the hero who did the school shooting, I mean, rather,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: who shot the shooter.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Caleb Giamonco. Yes, ma'am.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm a Republican in thinking. I mean,
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: I think like a Republican. That All this school shooting
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: is going on. I'm concerned about the kids that didn't
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: make it, and that's just not fair either. But the
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: man who did the shooting, it's not, you know, the
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Word of God says, he who lives by the sword
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: shall perish by the sword. So, like, down the road,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: who knows? That same person may get ambushed, just like
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: cops do.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: They get ambushed.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm a tad bit confused here. Do you have
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: concerns about the gentleman who intervened, the Good Samaritan, who
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: brought this tragedy to an end?
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: And I'm so grateful that he saved his daughters, right?
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: He might have saved an entire school full of kids. And, Joan,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: thank you. I don't know how close the police were.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: God bless the police. I'm sure they have a fine
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: police force in Bend, Oregon. They can't always be there.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: There's no magic Star Trek transporter that will get law
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: enforcement to the location of a shooting when it first
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: breaks out. That is where that saying comes from, about
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: a good person with a gun being the best deterrent,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: and not just deterrent, the best response to a bad
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: person with a gun. That's not a slight at the
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: police at all. Thank God for the police. But what
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: are they, five minutes away, ten minutes away? Depends on
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: response time. They're not everywhere. But you know what can
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: be everywhere? The citizenry. A good armed citizenry, such as
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: this particular gentleman. And again, just please learn and say
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: and lift up his name. Caleb Giamonco. He was driving
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: home from lunch. He heard gunshots. He saw a gunman,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: turns out a 16-year-old boy. entering the Oregon Elementary School
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: where his two young daughters attend. And he did save
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: their lives and a whole lot of other lives as well.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: God bless this hero. All righty, come join us. 1-800-520-1234.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Mark Davison for Hugh Hewitt, Salem News Channel, Salem Radio Network.
• 43:48
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• 43:53
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• 43:56
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• 43:58
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• 44:01
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• 44:05
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• 44:09
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• 44:12
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• 44:16
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• 44:19
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• 44:21
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• 44:24
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• 44:26
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• 44:28
  Speaker 2: is go to the poet laureate of the Hugh Hewitt Show,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Tarzana Joe. Hello, Joe.
• 44:32
  Speaker 11: You can see the jealousy all across the country. Last week,
• 44:38
  Speaker 11: Hugh asked if I'd ever been hired by a political
• 44:40
  Speaker 11: campaign to write a poem, and I had not. But
• 44:43
  Speaker 11: this is probably the closest I would come to it.
• 44:47
  Speaker 11: There are a lot of choices we'll be making in
• 44:49
  Speaker 11: the fall. like candidates who advocate this Medicare for all.
• 44:54
  Speaker 11: Obama was their hero when he was playing tough, but
• 44:58
  Speaker 11: now they say Obamacare just didn't go far enough. You
• 45:02
  Speaker 11: couldn't keep the plan you like, you couldn't keep your dock,
• 45:05
  Speaker 11: and when you paid your premiums, you got an awful shock.
• 45:09
  Speaker 11: The leader of the movement for this plan will come
• 45:12
  Speaker 11: to dread is candidate for Senator Abdu'l-Sayed. Championing the rhetoric
• 45:18
  Speaker 11: of folks like Bernie Sanders, he thinks that he can
• 45:22
  Speaker 11: sell this stuff to hordes of Michiganders. But folks who
• 45:26
  Speaker 11: live in border states, they know this isn't saleable. They've
• 45:30
  Speaker 11: seen when care is always free, it's.
• 45:34
  Speaker 9: Often not available. Hospitals in Lansing serve Canucks and Quebecois.
• 45:41
  Speaker 9: They head south for the healing like the Tin Man
• 45:43
  Speaker 9: did to Oz. the wave of sick Canadians, it never
• 45:47
  Speaker 9: will let up, as if they're streaming here so they
• 45:51
  Speaker 9: can see the Stanley Cup. So unless nights can get
• 45:54
  Speaker 9: darker and water can get wetter, I don't see for
• 45:57
  Speaker 9: the life of me how this could turn out better.
• 46:01
  Speaker 9: That's free for all. By Tarzana Joe.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Free for all. I did not have a Quebecois in
• 46:08
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• 46:13
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• 46:16
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• 46:20
  Speaker 2: what a pleasure it is to hear you. Thank you, Joe.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: God bless you and have a fantastic weekend. Moving into
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: the weekend, I find myself thinking about Hugh and wanting
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: to channel him. The Texas Rangers couldn't even win a
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: bad division, so I have no dog in the hunt anymore.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: So I've been watching some postseason baseball. Did anybody get
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: the number of the truck that hit the Los Angeles Dodgers?
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Swept in four by the Milwaukee Brewers, who have never
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: won a World Series. They are hungry. Maybe we'll have
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: the all-hunger World Series. You know who the other half
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: of that needs to be? Your Cleveland Guardians. Sean Armstrong,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: great name for a pitcher. on the mound against the
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Rays tonight. Let's have a happy Hugh and see if
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: the Guardians can wrap that up and give us Cleveland, Milwaukee.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: How's that for a World Series? God bless everybody. Thank you, Hugh.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Thank you, America. God bless this great country. Mark Davis,
• 47:10
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• 47:12
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