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The Cubs Could Have Swept Milwaukee But The Bullpen Made It Messy · Monday Morning Cubs Show

• 0:05
  SPEAKER_00: Good morning, good afternoon, and evening, Chicago Cubs fans, and welcome back to the Monday morning cub show.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_00: Today is Friday, I believe it is September 4th.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we just took two of two from the Milwaukee Brewers.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're going down to Miami Marlins tonight.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, this is this is, I promise you, this is an abbreviated Monday morning cub show.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_00: That's because I'm about to get on a train, go downtown, take care of myself for today.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: You know, me and Mrs.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_00: Carl have a nice day planned downtown.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: Believe it or not, it's my first architecture cruise ever on the Chicago River.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_00: Now, it's something I've held out on because people love doing the architecture cruises.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_00: But forever, I was like, one of these days I'm gonna want to do it.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_00: And so, like, when you're 25 years old and you're trying to bang that girl and she's like, I'm hanging on architecture cruise.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_00: In my head, I was like, I'm not wasting that bullet on your bad puss, lady.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'll just be dead honest with you guys.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not wasting that bullet.
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  SPEAKER_00: One of these days, I'm gonna be an old guy, I'm gonna want that tour.
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  SPEAKER_00: Today's the day.
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  SPEAKER_00: My name is Carl.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is a solo show.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_00: You guys are you guys are welcome to subscribe if not.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're just gonna talk about a couple things today.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_00: First is that Kevin Gossman and Clay Holmes are good enough.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's number one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Two Craig Council, you're gutless, you're just a gutless cunt, I think is the word.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_00: And now that's two very strong words out of the gate here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hardly a minute and 15 seconds into the show.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dropping a puss, dropping a cunt.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, if you're new around here, that that's that's kind of the cut of the gym.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_00: So architecture cruise today, very excited for that.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_00: Nice little lunch, you know, day downtown.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_00: Picked up some ridiculous Japanese zoom lens yesterday for my Sony A6700 body, and so it's a Sigma 15 to 50 millimeter.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: Now, people hear me talk about this.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: They go, What the fuck is he talking about?
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm talking about hardware, buddy.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm I'm I'm I'm honestly I'm just talking about cameras.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so I have a bunch of cameras and I got some nice stuff, but I don't this is a sick zoom lens, you know.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like usually for zoom lenses, I'm saying you're looking, you're going, I'm looking for a deal, you're on eBay, you don't, you're not necessarily worried about the warranty that much unless you're trying to spend a fuck ton of money.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: Then you get worried about that stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yesterday I dropped a fuck ton of money on this lens, specifically for the architecture cruise.
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  SPEAKER_00: So why am I talking about this stuff?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I want to distract myself.
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  SPEAKER_00: We should have swept the Milwaukee Brewers.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_00: We should have swept the Milwaukee Brewers.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_00: I got a little spice, a little heat on my mind, and that's because I had a lot of Thirsty Vaquero this week.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_00: Thirsty Vaquero is a Mexican-style soda, it's a signature spicy finish.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's all bite, it's no rattle.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's available on Amazon, you know?
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I made this point yesterday.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_00: When we talk about the Chicago Cubs, I go, hey guys, uh, you know, you're up 3-0 with Matt Boyd.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: You should win the fucking baseball game, right?
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're up 3-0 against our Brewers in a must-win game.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_00: We lose that game.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, you score five runs against Jacob Mizerowski.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ball or strike.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_00: We win that game.
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  SPEAKER_00: Strike.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ball.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: No way.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the reaction I have.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ball's right down the middle.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a strike.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, it's a ball.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why?
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  SPEAKER_00: Cause because we cause we suck.
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  SPEAKER_00: We can't, we can't.
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  SPEAKER_00: We score five runs on Jacob Mizerowski.
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  SPEAKER_00: We lose that game.
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  SPEAKER_00: Craig, just just take your take yourself out back and shoot yourself.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_00: Now that's an aggressive position, right?
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's not April, guys.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_00: This ain't mid-June.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, and you're going, well, he's got to get the mix figured out.
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  SPEAKER_00: He never figured out that mix.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_00: You never figured out your bullpen.
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  SPEAKER_00: I get guys have gotten hurt.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: You have to figure out the bullpen.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's where you get paid eight million dollars.
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  SPEAKER_00: So back to Thirsty Vicaro, a little spice, a little heat.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's a Mexican-style soda.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's got a signature spicy finish.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's all bite, it's no rattle, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: What is it?
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_00: What is it?
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's delicious.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's spicy watermelon, it's mango muerte, it's Lamon Ledrome.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's on Amazon.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they'll they'll you order it, they'll ship it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's just as simple as that.
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  SPEAKER_00: How hard is that?
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_00: You know, obviously, a lot of takeaways about the Brewer series, guys.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if I cram this in too quickly, like I'm I'm I'm I'm on a boat today, mentally.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So just everybody be cool with everybody here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Happy Labor Day.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um I I sincerely am disgusted that the Cubs go two and two in that series against the Milwaukee Brewers.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, the even worse part is that I still think we can get to the NLCS and get to the World Series and we can make a run in the playoffs.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like we scored five runs on Jacob Meserowski.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, we should have swept the Brewers.
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  SPEAKER_00: The Brewers are like the by far, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Aren't they by far the best team in baseball?
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  SPEAKER_00: We should have swept them.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_00: You know, the fact I can't get on the show tonight and be like, we took three or four from the Brewers, and that's why it come playoff time, that's why I wanted to go mentally.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_00: But then then you just it's like you you can't hold a 3-0 lead, you know?
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_00: You can't win a game, you you score five against Miss.
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  SPEAKER_00: So then here's the counterbalancing part.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_00: So we do this on the Monday morning cub show.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll make an argument, I'll say I I feel this way, and then I'm gonna talk to the other side of the argument, and then I'm gonna talk to the other side, and then we're ultimately gonna realize here's the ultimate decision.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_00: Here's here's kind of here's kind of an attitude.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe I don't do that at all on the show.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I just made that up.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_00: I don't fucking know.
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  SPEAKER_00: I will tell you this though.
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  SPEAKER_00: We won a game on Thursday where we scored two runs.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's crazy.
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  SPEAKER_00: How many, how many times do you score two runs and win a baseball game?
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh fucking never.
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  SPEAKER_00: What's the odds on that?
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  SPEAKER_00: What are you what's the percentage odds of you winning a baseball game when you score 10 runs?
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_00: I bet you it's less than 14%.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'll bet you that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Gary, whatever your name is, Gene Steven.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh I'll I'll be I'll be miffed if it's higher than 14%.
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  SPEAKER_00: Scoring two runs winning a baseball game.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_00: Fucking my ass.
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  SPEAKER_00: No shot, pal.
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  SPEAKER_00: No shot, Charlie.
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  SPEAKER_00: So then what does that mean to this thing?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm saying we should sweep the brewers.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_00: Well, then anybody who's saying you can do this, guys, you can do this.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: You can say it to me, you can say it to somebody who's bitching.
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  SPEAKER_00: We say something browser.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can say, hey, we we could have swept the brewers, but should is a hard thing to say when you only score two runs on a Thursday game, even though we win it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Even though we win it, it's very hard to say we should have.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now we could have, and that hurts.
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  SPEAKER_00: We should have, could have.
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  SPEAKER_00: Find the nuance there.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's up to you.
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  SPEAKER_00: What I'm trying to say is there is a delicate balance in drawing these conclusions and saying we could have won, we should have won, we should have swept.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, two runs on Thursday, you win.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what's the ultimate takeaway, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because it's like uh if we go two and two against the Burrers, some people are mad.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_00: I think we should have swept.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I think we could have again nuance, you figure out where you stand on that.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but as it pertains to playoffs, like Gaussman and Clay Holmes are plenty good enough.
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  SPEAKER_00: So start there, folks.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_00: Because I knew the pitching staff bows, the bullpen, atrocious.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, not one guy wants a ball.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: Not they don't the Trent Thornton tantrum in the dugout, like, buddy, go play for the Cincinnati Reds.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: There ain't none of that shit going on in Ridley.
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  SPEAKER_00: Throwing your fucking glove.
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  SPEAKER_00: How about you be a pro?
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: A pro throwing his glove, buddy.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're a pro.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_00: You you're good.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_00: What are you throwing your fucking glove for?
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_00: You should know where to throw your fastball, you should know how to execute a breaking ball.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_00: You should be able to throw back-to-back changeups.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_00: You're in major leagues, you're a right-hander, you don't throw 97, you're an awkward-looking, goofy fucking white guy named Trent.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_00: You should be able to throw back-to-back change-ups, and you can't.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's not your glove's fault, dude.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's it's not.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's not.
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  SPEAKER_00: And don't worry about your family at home that's watching the game.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_00: Don't worry about the guys back home watching it.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_00: Don't worry about any of the bullshit.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: Just go out and compete.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_00: You can't fucking do it, so you gotta go throw your glove like a pussy.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, and I'm thinking about, and if you don't know what I'm talking about, Trent Thornton meltdown, but the the general concept of we don't have the bullpen, we don't have the bullets, we don't have the ammunition at the end of these games where we feel good.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: I get that.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: That's your counter.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_00: I go, Gossman and Clay Holmes are good enough.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I want to talk about the bullpen.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm telling, I'll get to the fucking bullpen, pal.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'll get to the bullpen.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna sit here and you're gonna listen to me tell you Kevin Gossman and Clay Holmes are good enough first, though.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_00: They're good enough, folks.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_00: That was awesome.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_00: Gossman's such a what was that clearing my throat.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_00: Gossman's such a laid-back, chill guy, and then the the uh switch flips.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_00: You know, he gets on the mound, and the competitive nature of him is it's really marvelous.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: So we love this guy and endearing and and fun and charming, and what what's the right word?
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_00: He's sitting there eating Ann Sanders cinnamon rolls with Taylor McGregor pregame.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like, love that stuff.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely love that stuff.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_00: Fits right in.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, is Kevin Gossman throwing his glove?
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely not.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_00: Now, there is an iteration of Kevin Gossman in his career where he might throw a glove, but not this version, not this version, and that guy's solid.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_00: Now, some people are gonna say Clay Holmes, game one, Gossman game two.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's very simple, guys, because the game one, two combination, they're basically it's like you're a one or two, it's you're the best pitcher on the team, is what they're the two best pitchers on the team.
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  SPEAKER_00: Pitch game one and two.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_00: Now, who goes game one?
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like I think that's a lame concept in Major League Baseball.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_00: I very much do.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's like you need your best pitcher to pitch game one or game two.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's one of those two things because there is a theory out there that you should have your best pitcher pitch game two.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's not necessarily your your best guy.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: Now, where that theory falls apart is in the wild card one game, which no longer exists, would be where you go, okay, our number one's pitching this game because he's our number one.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: And that's where I would entertain would Clay Holmes go over Gossman if we had a one and done game.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: Now that's a great argument.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: Fortunately, we don't have to have it because the one and done doesn't exist.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_00: But do not use that same logic to then say Gossman's our number one or Clay Holmes is our number one.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_00: That who would start a one-game wildcard is different than who would start game one of a wildcard series, three-game wildcard series, or a five-game NLDS or a seven-game NLCS.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: Which is, I mean, this is esoteric, but practically speaking, when you Gossman pitched in the World Series last year, Gossman's been on the mount as Gossman's got all this experience.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: Now, Clay Holmes is pitched in the postseason plenty.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, there's this like now as I'm saying this, like, well, Holmes has great experience as well.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: But Gossman's polished, easy, simple, smooth.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: You you have a very particular idea of what you're gonna get from him, and then the idea of having Clay Holmes to either go up 2-0 or to get back to 1-1 is what I like the most.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: Between Clay and Kevin, who would pitch game one and two, I like Clay to go to step on someone's throat or to get us out of the hole more than I like Gossman to step on someone's throat or get us out of the hole.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I like Gossman more to set a tone that's easier for Clay Holmes to follow.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I think it's fantastic, sensational, and great stuff that we can sit here and talk about starting pitching because our offense is so good and our defense is so good.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: The bench is great, like it's like who's playing second baseman?
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: Not Pedro Mirz, maybe it's Matt Shaw in Lost in the Sauce is like Nico Horner's the second baseman, and DC Swanson has an oblique thing.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: This it's we're so lucky.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know how many Nife Perez played appearances I watched?
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know how many times I watched Joe Mather get into the batter's box at Wrigley Field?
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: You're fucking kidding me.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: So we're lucky, and this this is a lucky situation.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_00: So the fact I'm coming into talking about starting pitching bullpen, I'm not glossing over.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, do you do I need to sit here and tell you Alex Bregman hit 300 with 12 homers and 30 RBIs in the month August?
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_00: You play more games in August, but I I mean, what is that?
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: What's that on page for?
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: 70 homers, 180 RBIs?
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_00: This that's that's worth 35 million.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: I think I enjoyed August with Alex Bregman.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, also, I saw some point finger pointing about Michael Bush online.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's it, that's an easy way to expose that you don't know jack shit.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I like you guys, I want you guys saying smart stuff online.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: When you see people bitching about Michael Bush, he only has 16 home runs.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_00: Michael Bush is facing left-handed pitching this year.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: What did we talk about all offseason into the early part of this year?
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna need a ready to thump lefties because Bush has never done it in his career, and we don't want to go into the season where we're over the luxury tags, and we're gonna ask a lefty to hit lefties for the first time in his career.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's September.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, we played the Diamondbacks not too long ago.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: Eduardo Rodriguez is a left-handed pitcher who carries some of the best statistics in baseball this season.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: He'll do that once every three or four years.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: And Michael Bush hit cleanup against him.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: Last year, Michael Bush would have been in flip-flops, keeping a chart, you know, with a dip in.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: We got we got Michael Bush in the box against Eddie Rodriguez.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_00: The gap on that is significant, you know.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: He has to he had to learn this year how to hit left.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: He's never he doesn't hit lefties at professional baseball.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: Which, you know, like if you're gonna open your mouth this year about Michael Bush in 26, what you have to start with is damn good thing he played well enough so we didn't have to burn a roster spot on a platoon first baseman.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's a very real thing that could have happened.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_00: If Michael Bush was bad against now, Michael Bush is fine against lefties, which is good enough, which means we don't need to burn a roster spot, which means what?
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know, which means Pedro Ramirez is is your second basem right now or is getting time and and did get to play a lot.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: Now that is because it danced mean there's other connections and all this other shit, but like here's a good example.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: Do we have the flexibility to carry Michael Conforto all season long?
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: If we if we have a platoon option at first base, Tyler Austin, I believe, blew his knee out.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: We signed him from Korea, he was supposed to be the ready to thump.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I tell you guys this stuff because if you're if you're into the Cubs and you're uh you know see people online saying shit like Michael Bush and battery, you know, then it's on you.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_00: The same way the Danzby Swanson responsibility fell on you to tell that person, hey dude, Bush has seen lefties 200 times this year.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: That's a huge challenge, and it fucks with everything, right?
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: If all you see is right-handed pitching, like yeah, dude, launching pad, you just face right-handed pitching, you know.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_00: So when you get in the boxer hitting cleanup and you fucking smash right-handed pitching, so now you have to go, okay, well, they're bringing in a lefty, and you're looking in the dugout, and they're they're not subbing you out.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: You're right up there, pal.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: Now, he still has the same amount of plate appearances against Reddy's.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: So someone's gonna come back and go, Well, how come his power numbers are down so much?
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I would just ask you guys, like, like, okay, I'm sorry, you were going to work today, and uh, you know, some guy cut you off and it ruined your fucking day.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_00: Now you're in a meeting, it's 10 o'clock, you got into an accident, someone slash your fucking tires, whatever.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody gave you the metal finger, somebody threw coffee at your car this morning.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: You know, a homeless guy rolled up onto your hood at a red light.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: Fucking deal with it, buddy.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's Cook County.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: No one's come to save your ass.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: All right, but something happened to you on the way to work, didn't it?
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: Something did, and you're all fucking pissed off, you know, or you went in the office today, it's Labor Day, Friday.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: Just good on you for showing up.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: But you you could have gone in the office today with something on your head in your mind that prevents you from doing what?
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: The fucking TPS report, dude.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: From calling the Peterson account.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: Where are we at on the Peterson account?
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: And you're like, We're we're waiting to hear back, but you didn't even fucking call them, Joe.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_00: You didn't even call Peterson, but you're gonna tell your sales boss, we're waiting to hear back, which is classic.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: Just class anytime someone says we're waiting to hear back, they're full of shit, just so you know.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: One, two, uh that concept of like why they we're waiting to hear back from Peterson, you go to lunch.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: What'd you have at lunch, Joe?
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: Did you have a cheesy beef again?
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: Were you a bad boy?
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: Did you get the onion ring?
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, Joe.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm gonna ask you, Joe, now why at two o'clock you got a bad attitude?
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: And and you're ready to go home.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: You got three more hours in the day, and you still haven't called the Peterson account, Joe.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_00: But you're having a bad day.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: Now, what happened?
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: You got an argument with your your old lady last night, or somebody cut you off on the way in, or that guy you work with being a dick, whatever it is.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: Is it unrealistic for me to suggest that that will impact your experience?
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: No, it'll impact you.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_00: It will impact the quality in which you want to pursue the Peterson account on behalf of the guy who's being a dick to you.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck you, dude.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's facing Latani Pitching.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: That's what it that's that's face them, that's like Bush, you gotta go face lefties, you gotta get cut off on the way to the ready's.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: You know, your life is gonna come become ex ac exponentially more frustrating.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, is it more difficult?
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's not hard.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like dealing with some fucking asshole at work is not hard.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's just a pain in the ass.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: Those are two different things.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: Hard is hard, you know what I mean?
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: Left-handed pitching's hard.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's so now we're taking Bush, we're going lefties, now against righties, now back against lefties.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, by the way, you're 30 years old, and for the first five years of your life we in professional baseball, you were like told not to hit lefties.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: Now you're in the big leagues.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we need you to hit that lefty.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's how I see Michael Bush.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, sure.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: I would like to see the power numbers up.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: I also see this season is like a profoundly shaping season in this man's life.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: So no, I'm not gonna sit here and cast.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I think he's solid.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: I think the defense is there.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I didn't think I'd get this deep into Bush, but I saw I saw people talking about this stuff, and this is where I gotta, this is where I gotta raise the banners on the maniacs and be like, hey, just so you guys know when you see this stuff, you gotta speak up.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta go.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, Bush is facing lefties, you you fucking whatever.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not being mean, I'm just saying that got to me.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, okay, we're gonna go back to Craig Council here, guys.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: This is the Monday Morning Cub show.
• 18:09
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• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna try and get out of here in a minute.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: You know, why do I say that?
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: Because I I could be here, I could be here all day.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: Cancel architecture cruise, you know.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: Can they come pick me up all the way fucking out here?
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: Where am I 50 miles west of the architecture cruise?
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: Come and get me.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: Uh no, I was very disappointed with council.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to get over it, and and it's just I'm thinking about great managers in baseball, and like not ever does anything even remotely like cred council come to mind.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: Not anything, you know.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: Jack McKeon, why am I why'd I go to him?
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: But fucking, you know, Jimmy Leland and T when Tito's rolling with the I mean, obviously Tito, it's a different conversation.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: Modern baseball, but whatever, dude.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like Girardi and and and why did I just say Girardi?
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: Joe Torrey, fuck him, Bobby Cox, you know, there's guys that are just great Mike Sosha.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: Do I have to name every great manager that comes in my head?
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Why the fuck did I say Joe Girardi?
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not editing that out.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um Craig is so far away from like any of that.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: What do you what?
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: What a gutless guy, is my sense.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe I'm wrong about this.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna be a little bit more vulnerable in this part of the show where I say, I don't know if I'm right or wrong about him.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we have my buddy CB on the show, and he's a he's a good anti-council guy.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: He's a solid perspective on what he doesn't like about console.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: I like talking to him because he's prepared about it, and it means a lot to him.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: You know, he takes that, and and that's a good way to think about the position.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, yeah, we want to win games and we want to be awesome and all stuff.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: Let's start here.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: You're the manager of the Cubs, you're our leader, you're the face, you're the fucking guy.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we're gonna lose games because baseball is baseball.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: You don't do anything to help that process.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: You know, David Ross, when you lose games because you lose games, it's like that happened.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: Now David Ross can manage it out of game every now and then.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: But when you lose a game, you go, hey, it just happens, it's baseball.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you gotta be a baseball guy, you gotta give it to me the right way.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: I gotta feel like it.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: That shit just happens.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: Craig is so poor at making, and does it matter?
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's the counter-argument.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: Does any of it matter?
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like how Craig wants the fans, if or any of this stuff that bothers me?
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: And and I think the answer is no, none of it does matter.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: But it's these moments where you go, why didn't we take four in a row against Milwaukee?
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: Why aren't we going down to Miami tonight?
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: Five back or four back?
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Why are we not?
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I want to blame Craig because I'm going, we have the best offense in baseball, we have the best defense in baseball.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: Two things not really Craig's responsibility.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: Other than saying a setting up batting lineup and and trying to maintain consistent attitudes, I suppose, week to week, but like but you're managing Dansby Swanson and Alex Bregman and Nico Horner and Michael Bush and Ian Hap and Seyo Suzuki and Carson Kelly.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I don't know if that gets easier.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I didn't even mention the fact that like one of the greatest seasons in modern Major League history is gonna play center field for you.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: How about that?
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: How about that, Craig?
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: Now, if we if I if I give you give me the fucking top six, seven guys on each major league team to manage.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll guarantee you, every major league, and not every major league manager, almost every major league manager would pick the Cubs core.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: It is a manager's dream to show up and Danzby Swanson's your shortstop and Alex Bregman's your third baseman.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: Now you may not believe me because you may just be a fantasy guy or a numbers guy or a sports car guy.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: You may be, you just may not know the game.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: And that's okay.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what I'm here for.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: And and what I'm here for to you to learn is specifically that left side of the infield.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Though you have on field managers.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: Nico Horner is one of the most prepared and inhabited, or two of the most prepared guys in the division on a day-to-day basis.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I just went through the whole Michael Bush thing.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_00: Don't get me going on Say Suzuki's professionalism.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: Just how how easy he is to manage.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: It couldn't be easier for Craig.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: It couldn't.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I understand the starting pitching's been decimated.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: Do we agree that Jed went out and got Gossman and Clay Holmes and I'm sitting here doing a show about how those guys are good enough to take us to the World Series?
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: So the starting pitching is not a problem.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: The problem is we don't have a bowpen.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: So whose job is that?
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: There's the mix.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: There's having an environment where guys can be successful because they feel they're part of something.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: What the fuck is Craig doing?
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: Tealbar's brutal.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: Where's Phil Mayton?
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: Hunter Harvey?
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: I can start naming.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just bodies.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: I got bodies outside the fucking door right now.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: Just stacked one on top of the other.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: And and and the one thing they have in common is that Craig Council killed every single one of them.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's what Craig Craig, that's what Craig does.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: He'll he just murder he just he just he just that am I wrong?
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: Now I have to be vulnerable.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: I have to come back.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: I have to ask him maniacs.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: Am I being craziness?
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: The best offense.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: We score five on Miz at home.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: We should have swept the Brewers.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: Again, we scored two runs last game.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: Is that counsel?
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_00: Is it because I'm I hate him.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_00: I I think I hate him.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think I hate his guts.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: I hate looking at him.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_00: You know.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: But then the counter to that is we do have the best offense in Major League Baseball.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: We do have the best.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: How much do you want to give Craig credit for that?
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: For maintaining the same type of headspace.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: I this that's where I'm gonna leave you guys.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what to what to think or say or feel about Craig.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: Because in one hand, I'm I the the bullpen stuff has got me out of my mind, disgusted.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: Last week all I did an hour and 15 minutes.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: Here's the bullpen, here's what we're gonna do, here's how it's gonna work, here's Craig's great task over the next couple weeks, and then and then just and then just flop, you know, and then just just poopy pants.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: So that's not fair, that's not cool, or chill, as they would say.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm very interested in maniacs.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Use the Spotify comment section if you can, or you know, it's like take don't go on Twitter or tag me.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: I don't give a fuck.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm interested in good opinions, uh, which reminds me actually, now that I said that, somebody did DM me this morning, a baller strike, and I I have a I'm not editing any of this, I'm just pulling it up on Twitter.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: I I have an honest relationship with you guys that if you you know if you ball or strike me, I'm gonna I'm gonna give it to you.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, this guy goes, kind of meatball taker, baller strike training staff should be fired into the sun.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for this.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna end here.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: This is from Sean.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: This is from Sean.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: This is from S bot.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: This is from Sbot 24.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: This is from Shawnee boy.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: This is from Sean.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: That boy, Sean.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, fine with all those guys.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: Get a new job, go work for the fucking Chicago sky.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I heard that I heard the Chicago Fires hiring.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: They got a new stadium.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: Go get away from the Cubs.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: Get away.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: Every oblique, everybody, everywhere, everybody, no, fuck that.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: And and probably the worst injury is just the general malaise that infiltrates our clubhouse and and is permeated across our coaching staff.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: That is the type of stuff we need to we need to eradicate.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: Now we played the Marlins this weekend.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna go on this architecture cruise with my wife.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna have a blast today, guys.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I just want to say thank you.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: Love you guys.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: You know that.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: You guys know that.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: And we're gonna be we're gonna be fine.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna be fine.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: We have a great tune-up weekend.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: Mahoney and I will be back on Friday.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: No, we will not be on Monday because Monday's Labor Day, and I'm not doing a show on Labor Day or the night before any of that bullshit.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: We'll be back on maybe Sunday night.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: I've actually actually, as I say this out loud, it's like you probably gotta think about this before you hit record.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna think about it, and then I'm gonna hit record.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: For now though, guys, everybody have a good Labor Day.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: Share the show, don't share the show on givea fuck.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: Make a chance.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, go to Amazon and share some, get some thirsty if you care.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: That I do care about.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: That's all biting all rattle.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's good stuff.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, until next time, you know.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_00: Go cubs.