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Inside The Birds Postgame Show Week 2: Philadelphia Eagles 20, Kansas City Chiefs 17 · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, welcome to the Inside the Birds postgame show
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Jeff Mosher, Adam Kaplan, and Inside the Birds dot COM's
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Andrew de Checo. We are here, of course, to wrap
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up another Eagles win and go inside all the details
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of a win that over the Chiefs that did not
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look like the one from seven months earlier in the
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Super Bowl. Not as much poetry in motion, but it
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is a win. Nonetheless, the Eagles win twenty to seventeen.
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They go to two and oh, amazingly, the Chiefs go
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to oh and two. Let's get our impressions. Adam, you
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know the Eagles are two and oh. I'm sure for
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them inside the building. That's the thing that matters the most.
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Two good wins. How did you see this victory? In
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your eyes?
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Speaker 2: This is look, this is tough. This is the Chiefs
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home opener. Well, the Chiefs had some problems coming to
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the game. One of the reasons why I picked the
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Eagles is enough about their passing game. It's really been
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two years that the Chiefs passing game has been very disappointing.
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Speaker 1: Then you can remove.
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Speaker 2: Rachie Rice is their top possession receiver, and then with
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Worthy who who they really were ready to have a
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breakout season with his dissocated shoulder, though he got the
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decent he got some work in late this week, late
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last week. Technically it was going to be a problem
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and it was now. Yes, the Eagles had some coverage
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busts that was interesting, but there are lots of positives
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guys to We'll get into them in a minute. But
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I would say overall, this is a survive in advanced game.
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Some things have to be cleaned up the passing game,
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but overall there's a lot to be happy about. Because
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when you hold the Chiefs to just ten points. We
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could talk about some of the things that went on
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why they only scored ten points, which we'll get into.
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Speaker 1: I had seen seventeen.
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Speaker 2: Give them their credit, seventeen, right, they got to score
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late twenty to seventeen. The Eagles found a way to win.
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It's not easy to win on the road, and they
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got that win there. Very impressive.
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Speaker 3: Andrew Well, it was a grimy win, as I like say,
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and it's not easy to win on the road. But
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I thought the Eagles, particularly on the defensive side of
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the ball, did a nice job settling in really after
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the break, and the offense was able to hold up
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their end and play enough complimentary football to cash in
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when they had their opportunities. But I thought it was
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it was one of those wins that you know, obviously
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wasn't pretty. There's a lot that needs to get cleaned
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up at already mentioned the passing game, but I thought
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that Divic Vangio's bunch in that second half really stepped
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up and answered the bell.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I feel like this is the kind
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of win that three years ago I might have said
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the Eagles won, but dot dot dot because it came
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with its warts and its flaws. But I don't do
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that as much anymore because the Eagles have kind of
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trademarked winning this way. I mean, the Chiefs were doing
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that last year too. They went fifteen to one and
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seemingly won every game, second half, fourth quarter, bounce of
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the football. You know, the Eagles are are becoming a very,
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very defensive minded football team, and I know the fans
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love defense in this city of Philly, and they're able
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to compensate at times when their pass offense just isn't there.
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And this is not the first time we've seen it
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happened probably countless times last year. And then we get
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those games out of the blue, whether it's the Super Bowl,
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the Steelers game, whatever it is, where the pass offense
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just looks like it's poetry in motion. So to me,
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this is what you get with the Philadelphia Eagles. There.
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It's going to look ugly at times, but the defense
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is coming through and it is another win and it
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just goes to show. I think you guys can agree
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on this no matter how the Eagles look sporadically offensively
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or even sometimes defensively at times, but they are a
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very tough team to beat, Like you really have to
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play your best football to beat the Eagles.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I can't disagree with that. Yeah, can't disagree. It's one
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situation with the Eagles is they kind of know who
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they are. They play a specific style. Now, I would
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also tell you as we get into this, eventually this
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passing game is going to take off. It has to.
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There's just way too much talent. And by the way,
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I want to get started on offense. We let's start
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on offense. The pass protection was incredible. I mean, I
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don't know what else to tell you. It was phenomenal.
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What happened with the past game overall is you know,
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we can't tell off TV, so I'm not gonna guess.
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But the good thing is that after a they struggled.
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Their offensive line did not play well Week one, particularly
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in pass protection. Yes, they had some run blocks they missed,
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but the pass pro this game against the Chiefs in
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a hostile environment, sometimes you can't hear because you have
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to go with the silent count sometimes. But overall, that's
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one of the many things I thought were very positive
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from this game.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought so too. I was expecting to hear
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landon Dickerson's Dickinson's name, a little bit Landon Dickerson's name
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in the negative, like giving up a pressure or I
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know he had a false start, But in general, I
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thought he and Cam played well. Now, I know some
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people are gonna be like, what are you talking about?
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There were you know, there were times Jalen Hurts was
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under duress or he was running folks. There were times
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that de Spagnola's sending six or seven guys that's not
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on the offensive line. There were times that Jalen Hurts
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dropped back to throw, and even if he didn't complete
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the pass or just had nowhere to go, he had
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like three, four or five seconds to play. So I
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thought that was really impressive. Andrew, what did you think
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overall of the offensive design and concept and the attack plan?
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Speaker 3: Well, it was curious from a passing game standpoint, the
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routes were very compressed. There was a lot of short
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passes and dump offs. That first one to John Metch
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you sort of set the tone there. And when you
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keep hearing the word evolve and I know it's only
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been two games, but you expect to see a little
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bit more of an expansive attack, pushing the ball down
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the field, using the middle of the field, different little
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wrinkles that usually accompany the word in that passing game,
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because it looked it's looked like it has last season.
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But to your point, on the offensive line, guys, I
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thought Jordan Melatta and Landon Dickerson played a really or lane.
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Johnson as well played a really good game. And on
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that Sekwon barkley thirteen yard run, Tyler Stein had a
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really good block on Chamari Jones and Cam Jurgen's got
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to the second level a block up Tranq Will that
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kind of sprung him untouched.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you did not hear the name Chris Jones.
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A whole lot as far as wrecking shop or or
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who's the edge rusher from Purdue that they have whose
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name is, You just didn't hear them like you you
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ordinarily do. I agree with you. Offensive line played well
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I think Adam this week, to Andrew's point, you're gonna
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hear a lot of questions so the coaches about the
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evolution or the new iteration of the offense that just
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not has has not presented itself yet. It just hasn't.
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There's no evidence to suggest that this offense is any
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different on a day to day or week to week
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basis than it was last year. And like you you
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hit on the head, there's gonna be a game where
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they come out throwing the ball all over the field
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and everybody's gonna feel great, but it's it's not something
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that we've seen as sustainable, and they're gonna get questioned
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about that this week. I am sure of it.
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Speaker 2: A friend of mine, Kyle, said it was texting. He goes,
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I have a feeling in the Rams game, he goes,
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passing is going to take off. Because maybe if if Stafford,
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you know, Stafford's played pretty well so far. We'll talk
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about him later in the week, but maybe sometimes you
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get that passing tempo game where both quarterbacks going back
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and forth. You never know about that, but I would
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say the first half of the first game against Dallas
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or some really good things from Tulo but since then, again,
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we won't know for sure until you and I talked
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to greco cell Monday night about what the tape looked like.
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Is the pass protection was sublime?
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Speaker 1: What was and good things?
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Speaker 2: Hurts didn't bail from the pocket, but was he not
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pulling the trigger? Were guys o getting open? Typically, as
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as coaches will tell you, seventy five percent of the time,
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guys are getting open, but the quarterback doesn't like what
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he saw. Whatever the case may be, but typically the
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what you see on TV is not reflective of really
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what is. And we're going to find out. We'll get
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the truth from Greg as he always tells us the truth.
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But I would say this, they know they have to
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be better. The tape will tell them that and it
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will just see what happens over time. But offensively, by
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the way, Barkley looked good. He really did. He hit
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the hole pretty well. The offensive line did a better job,
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still not quite where they need to be run blocking.
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And by the way, just look at my notes here.
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So a lot two got in a little bit. He
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came in the second series and I didn't see him
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for a while. Then I saw him come back. But
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Grantson was the f tight end if you watch closely,
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because Granted cannot line up in line. He could tell
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line up in line. I don't know why. I don't
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know why they wouldn't use lots in line more than
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they did. But that's something that they're going to have
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to figure out because last year, by the way, just
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charting it pretty much the backup why tight ends for
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most of the eas and were stalled before they cut him,
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then use Ama.
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Speaker 1: That was it.
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Speaker 2: So they always had someone when god it was out,
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they had someone could play online as they don't have
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that guy unless they're willing to use a lot to
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more like that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised they didn't use them very much.
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He had a nice block in the in the red
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zone on their touchdown. But outside of that, you saw
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the divisioncies there with Grant Cackuti. On the very first play,
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I believe it was Leo Shanew who got off the
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edge and forced a fumble on Jalen Hurtz. And that's
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not I mean, that's not Grant Cockata's game. We've talked
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about that for a number of years now, but I
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was I was surprised that they put Kylon grantson out
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there as much as they did and not put Latsu
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because a Lot two is a really physical player. Thinking
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the limited sample size that that revealed.
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Speaker 1: It, Yeah, I think the answer to that, and again
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that's something that will be revealed in the week, maybe
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the coaches will talk about it is that it's tough
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to take a player like Latuo has never played an
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NFL game before and now you're asking him to sort
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of play a different kind of position. I know, tight
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end and fullback has some similarity where you line up
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and block, but again, something he's never done before. As
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opposed to Grantson, who's about a three year NFL veteran,
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I think this is your four four year arrested Yeah,
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actually right right. So my point is he may not
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be great, but he has played that role that position,
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has been doing it for the Eagles since the start
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of camp, however, and this was the chance for a
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Lot two to get his feet wet. However, I thought
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a lot too through a really good block on the
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Saquon Barkley four yard run that was reviewed. You know,
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they thought maybe it was a touchdown it stopped short.
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They get the touchdown on the hurt scamper, But I
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think if anything, he's probably earned himself some more opportunities
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as the weeks go on to take on that role
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or if Goddard continues to get hurt, because it's we
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all know. I mean, they just don't have really good
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blocking tight ends when Goddard's not in But I just
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don't think they were ready to commit to like that
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role for a Lot two this time against that opponent
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on the road. You know they got to get out.
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Speaker 2: Don't know. I don't know that. I mean, if he's
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out there, you play him as a in line I
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I which.
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Speaker 1: Limit his responsibility. Remember you're not trying to also tell
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the defense what you're doing. And when he's out there,
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every time I believe was a run. So I mean,
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you're not going to pass the ball too much with
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Lot No.
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Speaker 2: No, But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking
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about getting him in line because Cranton cannot play in line.
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He just cannot. He's just not never has, never will.
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It's just he he's gonna get blown up.
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Speaker 1: So but if he's in line, don't you think the
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Chiefs are like, oh, they're running the ball.
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Speaker 2: Because that doesn't matter. It doesn't mean you're gonna throw it,
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run it. You could, you could lie. You could have
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two guys lining up in line and roll at the
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quarterback out run a sprint option. No that that I
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hear you. But that doesn't mean you have to run it.
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Speaker 1: So it doesn't mean by but you give yourself one
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less better. By the way, the passing game is my point.
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Speaker 2: Well, by the way, by the way, by the way,
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first down, how many times do they run the football
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first down? Every first down? Yeah, it was ridiculous that
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the whole passing game game plan. Now again, we don't
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know what the tape looked like yet, but in terms
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of philosophy, my god, could you give it? Talk about tells? Yeah,
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seem like Andrew didn't seem like they run it every
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time on first.
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That's code birds for a risk free first stake. Yeah. Anyway,
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on that note, I thought I give credit to Spagnolo
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because he really he did not He was not afraid
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to throw the house at times. The Jailen hurts, and
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you know, for a guy who got burned by it
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in the Super Bowl, he came back and did his
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thing and he actually did a good job. I mean
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there were no Usually when you blitz Jalen hurts like that,
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you get give up the one on one opportunities that
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Hurts loves down the sideline, and there were really no sideline.
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There was one of the two earlier in the game
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that he missed. I think it was Davante, and he
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didn't get it until the fourth quarter, right, he finally
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got the one. Yeah, but if you're Spagnolo, you know
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you're gonna give up one of those. But you'll trade
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that for getting Hurts on the run and throwing and
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throwing wide. And at the end of the day he said, look,
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I give up twenty points to the Eagles. They have
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all these offensive weapons. We did our job, but their
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offense chiefs offense did not do its job. So I
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credit Spagnolo, But also a nice job by the Eagles
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offense on a bad day to finally get that play
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that they really love against those pressures, which is that
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jump ball that you saw to DeVante. It was a
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great catch by DeVante. Reminded me of the one he
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made against Washington a couple of years ago where he
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goes up against it. He's a kind of made that
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his thing, and that was really a backbreaking pass play
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and I'm sure Spags was thinking I knew it was
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gonna happen. I just was hoping my offense would have
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gotten me a two touchdown lead at some point before that,
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or even a lead at that point in the game.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, Spags and his defense always to
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render fifteen yards on the ground to Jalen Hurts after
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Jalen Hurts carved up Dallas his lay.
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Speaker 1: So Solitz is right. They were blitzing the A gaps,
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which makes it hard to run out the middle, and
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I noticed their rushers would rush wide, so he him
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and then took away the inside running lanes. I swear
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we've seen teams do this before, and we always say, Man,
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I wonder if that's a blueprint, like the Niners did
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that a couple of years ago in the NFC Championship game.
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But the Eagles always figure out a way then to
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kind of counteract and or they take advantage of a
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team that just can't do the way his Spags does it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think so.
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Speaker 2: Uh, if you want to move on, I do want
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to talk about special teams, Braid Man.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get to I was going to save that
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for the end because they were they were really important.
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Speaker 2: We cat actually take we could take care of that
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real quickly. We could just do that. Now before we
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get the defense, I got a lot. I got a
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lot to say on defense, it's really good. But braid
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Man is I mean, I know it's only two games,
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but we talked about how great he was in training camp.
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I mean his last point was forty. But by the way,
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it just overall he is what's been outstanding. Yeah, and
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and Elliott Wow, and it was all windy. It was
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twelve miles an hour, look breezy, and Elliott looks phenomenal.
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So yeah, they're special to they're specialists. Have been great
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so far. Touch with kicking a puny Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I noted that the operation with Braden Man holding and
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Charlie Hewlett at the new long snapper, that operation has
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been pretty crisp, real quick.
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Speaker 2: Braidman apparently it's a phenomenal holder. I heard he's that
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that's like run. It's in addition to everything else he's
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done for the Eagles. Uh, he's a phenomenal holder. And
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it really shows. Elliott is back. I mean, he looks incredible, he.
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Speaker 1: Looks very good. And by the way, the biggest special
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teams play. We can't ignore a nice job by A. J.
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Brown scooping up that onside kicking. Yeah, I guess technically
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it never went the distance it needed to, but it
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was a nice job by A. J. Brown. Yeah yeah, yeah,
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all right, good stuff. So that is special. Yeah yeah, listen,
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that shouldn't be understated. Jake Elliott has made three field
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goals all of fifty eight, fifty eight and fifty one.
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I mean, and on the road you make two of them.
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That's really tough. I mean that he's really back. And
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if the Eagles are going to be a kind of
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grind it out and gut it out kind of team
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so far, then that's really really big.
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Speaker 3: They're gonna need him. I mean, look, he's obviously kicking
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with a ton of confidence right now and rightfully so
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he's had a good summer and he's carrying that over
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into the regular season so far.
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Speaker 2: Oh No, one more thing. John Mechi was the kickoff returner.
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I mean, I know they have to have two guys back,
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but Mechi returned all three of the kicks.
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Speaker 3: He lived and it was AJ Dillon, which we all
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pretty much expected that got the reserve. Was the immediate
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reserve behind Saquon the tank. Bikby just got to Philadelphia,
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so I didn't really expect him to be much of
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a factor offense.
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Speaker 2: Played on specials. I did see that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he played on specials.
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Speaker 1: Right, all right, let us switch gears. We'll talk about
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this Eagles defense against the Chiefs. Now, for everything I
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said about Steve Spagnolo not being afraid to try to
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do what he the same blueprint, go after hurts, you know,
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try to shut down the run. Vic Fangios enters the
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chat and says, no, hold my beer, I'm gonna do
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something different. I'm actually going to blitz more than I
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did the Super Bowl, which we know was a big
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goose egg in the Super Bowl. And I thought to myself,
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as I'm watching guys, I'm like, that's really smart. I mean,
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the Chiefs probably never thought in their wildest dreams that
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Vic Fangio was going to come at them, and Vic
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probably felt that the Chiefs felt that way, and he
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came at him. Now, not like he was throwing cover
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zeros left and right, but he was pressuring. He was
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sending guys, and it clearly made Mahomes rattled. I mean,
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Mahomes got some runs out of it, but he also
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threw a lot of high rushed passers. The one on
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the sideline of Marquise Brown, there was one over the
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head of I think Thornton, one to Kelsey that was
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a little behind. Yeah, I mean those matter, and those
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all happened because he was hurried.
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Speaker 3: There's a player that I highlighted because he really he
19:42
continues to impress me with his physicality and his ability
19:46
to set the edge, and that's Non Smith. He plays
19:48
with a lot of violence. He had a really nice
19:50
stop on that fourth and one on that first they're
19:53
down to start the game. He did a nice job
19:55
to Harry Mahomes and it was the incompletion to Burchard Smith,
19:58
the running back in the flat. I really like the
20:01
way that no one plays. He uses his hands well
20:04
and he plays with controlled violence.
20:07
Speaker 1: I like that controlled violence. Yeah, that is something Adam
20:10
we talked about last year. The first half of the
20:11
year you didn't see and then he really started to
20:13
learn speed to power and just playing within himself, putting
20:17
out offensive guards who were trying to pull He's been
20:20
he's really becoming a good player there.
20:23
Speaker 2: They had at least seven blitzes in the first half,
20:25
which was interesting that there's just saying if you can't
20:27
get home with four, you bring five. You can't come
20:29
home with five, you bring six, or you start blitzing
20:33
guys off the A gap, up the A gap. That
20:35
they they knew it that they had to do something.
20:38
Their pass rushers are not existent for the most part
20:40
last week, and they Ojoma had a couple of nice rushes.
20:44
He had a he had he had his first NFL sack.
20:47
But the big story was that Darius Smith in early
20:51
he showed up. Like we'd said earlier this week, we
20:55
thought he'd play unless he's not in shape. He played
20:57
and played a lot and seemed to play well well.
21:01
They hit Mahomes at least ten times. They hit him,
21:04
They got to him, Yes he had They had the
21:06
backbreaking runs. But you noticed guys in the first half, Yes,
21:10
they got a field too many times. They cleaned that up.
21:13
That was a good adjustment by Fangio and his coaches.
21:15
They shut down Mahomes in the big runs of the
21:17
second half. That was really big.
21:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what. I was starting to get like
21:22
Josh sweat vibes out of Zadarias Smith because not only
21:24
was he rushing the pass or he was playing the
21:26
run pretty well, setting the edge. It looked like his
21:29
athleticism and his length and his size. He has good size,
21:33
was given given the offensive line trouble for the Chiefs,
21:37
and he can wind up being a sneaky good pick
21:39
I mean he should be a It shouldn't be a
21:41
sneaky good pick up. He's been a really good player
21:43
in the league. But you throw him into a rotation
21:45
now with an improving Nolan Smith right and Jylex Hunt,
21:49
who's gonna keep getting better and learning how to play
21:51
the position, and you got yourself a nice little three
21:54
man rotation there. And I thought it showed up. I
21:56
thought it made a difference. And again I think vic
21:59
fan Angio was willing to make a trade off, just
22:02
like Steve was right with the deep ball. As long
22:04
as he's getting a lot of pressure. He was willing
22:07
to give up some scrambles to Mahomes for the for
22:11
the upside of also pressuring Mahomes into making a lot
22:14
of throws that were off target. And there was one.
22:17
There was one drive in late in the third quarter.
22:20
It was third down. He sent Campbell on a blitz up.
22:23
The a gap was a five man rush. Campbell got
22:25
in Mahomes face and he threw the ball. I forget
22:28
who he was throwing to but it wasn't complete because
22:31
it was hurried. It wasn't the one where he overthrew Thornton.
22:34
It was like right either before or after that. I
22:37
think it was actually before on the drive before and
22:39
those little things that knowing when to send that fifth
22:43
guy was something that we saw from Vic that we
22:46
didn't have to see in the Super Bowl or other times.
22:48
So it was really good, good strategy there.
22:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, and real quick on Zadarius Smith, you could tell
22:54
talking to him last week that he was itching to
22:56
get back out and play in a regular season game.
22:59
And he definitely added some juice to the pass rush
23:01
and you could see his size really come into play.
23:04
I thought he brought some really good energy to that
23:06
group and he'll be the third edge rusher. And the
23:08
Eagles also worked Josh uche In and he had a
23:10
couple of nice plays, limiting at Pacheco for a two
23:13
yard run early in the game, and then he had
23:15
another one where he got into the backfield.
23:18
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Noah Gray, by the way, was the guy
23:21
I was saying who he threw wide off because Campbell
23:23
was blitzing into his face. So this is a defensive
23:27
Eagles team. Now, I guess and Andrew. Have we talked
23:29
about Andrew mcoobaugh.
23:30
Speaker 2: Obviously No, that was obviously a huge play. I'm sure
23:33
the Chiefs are thinking, Okay, that was some bad luck,
23:36
but hey, you know what, you make your own luck.
23:39
That was an unbelievable return. He's a guy that a
23:42
number of big plays in college. That was obviously the
23:45
game changer and they were able to go up by ten.
23:49
But overall, the good thing is they kind of rebounded
23:52
after last week. Let's not forget the Cowboys had at
23:55
least four drops. One would have been a touchdown, and
23:57
they played much better this week. The matchups were much
24:00
better for them because of the guys who were missing
24:01
for the Chiefs, and they really shut him down. I
24:03
know they had a cover coverage busts in the fourth quarter,
24:06
which they'll clean up, but there are a lot of
24:08
good stories. And Dorry Jackson, by the way, played much
24:11
better in this game, much better.
24:12
Speaker 1: Did he did?
24:14
Speaker 3: Now mention that.
24:16
Speaker 1: Granted there's no CD lamb out there, but he did
24:18
play much better. You got to give him these credits.
24:20
Speaker 3: All you can all you can do is play against
24:22
who you're lining up against. And I thought I thought
24:23
he'd did a nice job.
24:25
Speaker 1: That is true, very very very true. Back to Macouba, Andrew,
24:29
you were on him from the start. He just it
24:32
just seems like he's such a natural fit for what
24:34
Vic wants to do. And then on top of that,
24:37
he just is always in the right place in the
24:39
right time. We saw that against the Browns in the preseason,
24:42
and he'll like think about it. His momentum. He is
24:44
going toward the play right, it's a it's a past
24:47
to Kelsey. He's the post safety he's coming to. But
24:50
at the top, as the ball is bouncing off of
24:52
Kelsey's hands, Kelsey is cutting in and Yakuba is going
24:56
to him, going the opposite direction so to maintain the
25:00
the concentration to see the ball into his hands as
25:02
Kelsey's coming in front of him and he's going the
25:04
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25:08
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was my third rated safety coming out of
26:42
the draft. You've seen plenty of my mock drafts. I
26:44
had him as a late too because of the ball skill,
26:48
because of the high level football intelligence and the just
26:52
the versatility and what he brings to that back end,
26:54
allowing it to be multiple and when you see someone
26:57
like Vic Vangio go to him one. Obviously he was
27:00
a second round pick, but he didn't play last snaps
27:02
in the summer. That shows you the kind of confidence
27:04
that they have in him. And he did mention he
27:06
played okay in the opener and reference a couple He
27:09
called it major bust. That didn't hurt the Eagles or
27:12
they could have hurt them more. But I thought in
27:14
this game, aside from you know, I played that Mahomes
27:17
had against him in the running game on third down
27:19
he had. He definitely stepped up in a big way,
27:22
and that's what he can do. Take the football away,
27:24
and that's why he's that's why he's back there.
27:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know he's good. He's gonna make mistakes.
27:29
He is a rookie, Adam. He saw he also had
27:31
a penalty a defensive hold. They sat on the broad
27:35
they set it on on the right up or the
27:37
whoever does the stats that it was Quinion Mitchell, but
27:39
it was Macouba that had the defensive hold that negated
27:43
the sack between Davis and I think Carter on third down.
27:48
Then you also saw him sort of get I don't
27:50
know if it's trampled, but Travis Kelcey sort of show
27:52
voted with one hand as he's raked around. And so
27:55
he had a couple of plays. He got truck pad
27:57
by Mahomes at the end of a fifteen yard run.
28:00
So what when you see him able to kind of
28:02
respond and come up with the biggest player of the game,
28:04
he say that it's great. You know, rookie's gonna have
28:07
rookie moments and then he's gonna come through and make
28:09
some real plays. So the question is does he get
28:12
fined in kangaroo court though for getting chased down by
28:15
a guy who weighs for the Yeah, is.
28:19
Speaker 2: A pretty good athlete for a left tack. Yeah, remember
28:22
he's coming off the torn betel at tenant. But overall,
28:25
the defense just you know, in this game, particular comparatively
28:29
to the Cowboys game really rebounded well. They played disciplined.
28:34
The Sadarius Smith addition, we'll see what the snapcount looks like.
28:39
I'm surprised that he played as much as he did,
28:41
at least appeared to have played, considering he had not
28:44
practiced prior to this week since January. That's it's amazing.
28:49
But he see here's the thing. We know they're telling
28:52
you he was in great shape. They wouldn't have played
28:54
him like they did.
28:55
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
28:56
Speaker 3: The last time he played in the game Adam was
28:58
January eighteenth against the Lions, or with the Lions went
29:01
in the playoffs against the Commanders.
29:04
Speaker 2: Think about that, I mean you're think about you're talking
29:08
about over nine months or about nine months. That's incredible.
29:10
He had not even been with the team this spring.
29:12
That's really he's a true pro. That is a big
29:15
time to do. That. Really nice signing. They beat the Lions.
29:20
I know the line for a fact had interested in
29:22
bringing them back. I don't know if they were going
29:23
to do anything, but they had interest all off season.
29:25
If they cut them, he was making way too much money.
29:27
But this is a really quality signing for a team
29:30
that's got to find a pass rush and they really did.
29:32
Sacks are great, they're cherries on top, so to speak,
29:37
but it's the quarterback pressures, which talking to coaches over
29:39
here is a little bit more important to them, and
29:42
they got They hit mahomes a lot. That was the
29:44
great thing. They collapsed that pocket a lot.
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throughout the week, So let's finish it up on this, Adam.
31:01
You give me one thing that you really like and
31:03
one thing that you're concerned about. Headed into week three.
31:07
Speaker 3: A lot to like.
31:09
Speaker 2: The good thing is And I knew what would happen,
31:11
because I think what happens is when you see an
31:14
offensive line that you know is elite. They shock us
31:17
for the first time and out on how many years
31:19
they don't play well Week one. It wasn't just one
31:21
or two plays. It was enough that you go, you
31:23
start scratch your head a little bit. They rebound, they
31:26
rebounded nicely the pass the game. I'm not as pessimistic
31:32
as some people are I've seen what's in social media.
31:34
I'm aware and I'm not absolving hurts from this. The
31:38
tape's gonna tell us when we talked to Greg, we
31:41
tape inside the when we record inside the tape. But
31:45
he's had a number of play callers. He's got another one.
31:48
It's just you got to get throw of the process.
31:51
You just can't snap your fingers. This is not good.
31:54
We know that the passing game was pathetic for the
31:57
most part on Sunday. It's got to be better. It's
31:59
going to be better. Not everything's gonna be great. They won,
32:02
you know, by the way they won. When your quarterback
32:07
throws for one hundred and one yards and you win,
32:12
and quite frankly, in the second half of its kind
32:15
of like it looks like Beagles have a lot of
32:17
momenimum of the The Chiefs scored late to make it
32:19
twenty to seventeen. But when you when you do that,
32:22
when your quarterback on throws for one hundred one yards
32:24
and you still win, you gotta feel good about because
32:28
you know it's going to be better. It's it's just
32:30
eventually going to be better. It has to.
32:32
Speaker 1: There you go and you're in one concern we No.
32:35
Speaker 2: That was my concern the passage.
32:36
Speaker 1: Oh right, right, yeah, the quarterback. Okay, gotcha, Andrew. One
32:39
thing you're encouraged by. One thing you're concerned with.
32:41
Speaker 3: Encouraged by the development of the first and second round
32:44
pickch jo Hot Campbell and Drew mccoubla. They're going to
32:46
be mainstays on that defense. And I think that they
32:49
are right on schedule at least a pearod that that's
32:51
the way that it appears, and and they're going to
32:53
be somebody that they're gonna have to lean on so
32:56
to this early on. To be able to make plays
32:58
like they have, I think is a testament to the
33:01
coaching and to their ability to pick up the plays.
33:05
Speaker 2: Good stuff. One thing I want to say that fans
33:07
should be proud of. For those of you who are
33:09
in your forties or fifties, when is the last time
33:12
you saw linebacker play like this? Un I'm playing linebacker, right,
33:16
Vic calls him Ilb's Andrew is in your mid thirties,
33:20
Andrew your lifetime.
33:21
Speaker 3: You've ever seen late late thirties?
33:23
Speaker 2: Okay, if you ever see anything like this at linebacker
33:26
for the football team.
33:27
Speaker 3: I have not, And it's certainly not hyperbole Adam to
33:30
say this is the most dynamic second level tandement the
33:33
Eagles have had, and I don't know, maybe ever, it's
33:37
really impressive with Zach Vaughan and John Campbell ideally complimenting
33:42
each other with their skill sets. And then I guess
33:44
the one area of concern would be, like Adam alluded to,
33:46
the passing game, and I do believe it's going to
33:49
get corrected. It's going to take a little bit of time.
33:51
They're not just going to be able to roll things
33:53
right out. Kevin Patulo is gonna you know, it's a
33:56
second game calling plays. The players are going to come.
34:00
The players are gonna come. But today, you know, obviously
34:03
it wasn't good enough and it left a lot to
34:05
be desired.
34:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was encouraged, as you mentioned before, with the
34:08
bounce back by the offensive line. I thought they were
34:10
really really well in a tough place to play well
34:12
where it's loud. They obviously had to rely on the
34:15
silent count for the first time this year with the
34:19
right guard Tyler Steen having to be a big part
34:22
of that on the look back, So they did a
34:23
really good job there. The only thing I'm a little
34:27
I don't want to say discourage, but we just have
34:29
not seen It's only two weeks. Really haven't seen the
34:32
signature Saquon Barkley breakout game or a breakout run he
34:36
used to own the second half. He really hasn't had
34:38
that yet. And I don't know if that's team's really
34:41
trying to take him out or if it just lanes
34:43
aren't there. But you know, he has made some tough
34:46
yards on his own, but he still hasn't had the big,
34:48
backbreaking one yet. I thought that was gonna come in
34:51
the second half against the Chiefs.
34:53
Speaker 6: It did not.
34:53
Speaker 1: We'll see if it comes against the Rams or down
34:56
the road that's gonna do it. For this episode of
34:58
the Inside the Birds PO game show for Andrew to
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checko Adam Kaplan, I'm Jeff Mosher, Thanks for watching. Catch
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you all on the next one.