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Ep. 21 | Student Sexual Abuse in Peoria USD · The Myth of Education Podcast

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SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the Myth of Education Podcast,
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SPEAKER_01: where we expose corruption,
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SPEAKER_01: advocate for student safety,
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SPEAKER_01: and defend parental rights.
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SPEAKER_01: Everything in this podcast episode is alleged.
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SPEAKER_01: All rights are reserved.
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SPEAKER_01: Dan, kick us off.
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SPEAKER_00: All right.
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Well,
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you know,
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the big story in the news,
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certainly for Arizona and really nationwide,
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is the
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SPEAKER_00: child sex scandal going on in the Peoria Unified School District.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's not my home district.
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SPEAKER_00: It's probably not yours.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe you're not even in Arizona,
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SPEAKER_00: but we're here with Tiffany Benson,
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SPEAKER_00: who is right there in the backyard of Peoria Unified School District.
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SPEAKER_00: This is a major scandal because it involves our kids.
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And more than that,
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it's a child sex exploitation scandal,
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a cover up,
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a political coup
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even involving,
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I mean,
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it's a political circus that involves conservatives.
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We all are familiar with political circuses involving a
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partisan debate and a
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SPEAKER_00: partisan battle,
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SPEAKER_00: but this involves what we conservatives consider the good guys.
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SPEAKER_00: And so it's a mess.
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SPEAKER_00: It involves betrayal.
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SPEAKER_00: It's even got a TikTok star.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's got all the recipes for something that
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people would be interested in,
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makes it complicated,
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interesting,
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and kind of tragic,
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really.
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Tiffany,
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can you kind of tell us,
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introduce us to Peoria as a town and as a school district?
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SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna be a little bit technical.
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SPEAKER_01: It's actually a city.
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SPEAKER_01: is huge.
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SPEAKER_01: There's about 31 to 33,000, depending on which resource you consult.
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SPEAKER_01: They like to brag about how big they are.
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SPEAKER_01: So about 31 to 33,000 students.
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SPEAKER_01: It is
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We are largely conservative in the community,
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but we have a leftist board.
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And we're going to use the word conservative a lot on this
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podcast because we're
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SPEAKER_01: going to emphasize values over party.
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SPEAKER_01: More on that later.
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SPEAKER_01: So yes,
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we thought that we had a conservative majority on our school
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board here in Peoria,
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SPEAKER_01: Arizona,
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but one of the persons that we voted for kind of turned out to
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be a little bit of a
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SPEAKER_01: slob.
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We got to pick up the pieces and keep parents encouraged and
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engaged because those
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SPEAKER_01: of us who are actually fighting to protect children in our community,
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SPEAKER_01: we're not necessarily the ones holding power,
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SPEAKER_01: but the power we do have is in our voice.
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And so I am very thankful that a lot of the parents and
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community members in Peoria are active
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we went a little we went a little dormant after the elections
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in 2024 because again
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we thought we left the district in good hands but after the
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shenanigans that we
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have seen everybody's kind of back out there's a little bit of
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some scuffles going
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on but I consider it all to be you know in the name of
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protecting and guarding
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children they are a gift and a reward from the Lord as my
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scripture says and so
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SPEAKER_01: every parent needs to be
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alert to what's happening in Peoria USD because this is it's a
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flashpoint but I
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have to tell you but so was Virginia back in 2020 Loudoun
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County that was a
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flashpoint California so many things have happened Redlands
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California that
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district has paid out multiple millions of dollars to victims
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of sex crimes and so
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SPEAKER_01: I've been following these things for about 3-4 years those who know me
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They know I've been following this for a while and
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unfortunately it's just I don't
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SPEAKER_01: see any end in sight.
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SPEAKER_01: Parents have to take control of education.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're an expert in this field.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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you were doing a school board watch list where you're watching
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districts across the
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SPEAKER_00: country.
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SPEAKER_00: I know, I think that's how I met you.
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SPEAKER_00: We were doing things in Southern Arizona and you had your eye on that.
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SPEAKER_00: You knew what was going on and you were our advocate, came alongside.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's,
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SPEAKER_00: I'm sure,
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a little bit near and dear to your heart when you see something
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like this happen
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SPEAKER_00: right there in Peoria.
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SPEAKER_00: You mentioned that you thought you had a conservative board.
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SPEAKER_00: Can you tell us kind of real briefly
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SPEAKER_00: how the election went and what you expected.
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SPEAKER_01: So in 2024, right, we had three seats.
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SPEAKER_01: So every other cycle, it's two seats and then it's three seats.
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SPEAKER_01: So in 2024, we had three seats that were available.
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SPEAKER_01: We decided to, we tried to get two people elected.
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The reason why we ended up with a slate is because we had some
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shenanigans with LD27.
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and they basically just put a liberal who was registered with
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an R on the golden
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ticket and so that's how we ended up with Becky Proudfit on our
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board and the
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SPEAKER_01: parents
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Just to clarify,
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in Arizona and a lot of other places,
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school boards are nonpartisan.
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SPEAKER_00: So that adds a little wrinkle,
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SPEAKER_00: right,
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SPEAKER_00: where they're not going to have an R or a D or an I next to their name.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a conservative in name, right, or in reputation.
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SPEAKER_01: And then the parents, they pulled through
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SPEAKER_01: with a grassroots campaign called Vote the Jays.
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And that was how we ended up with Jeff Tobey and Janelle Bowles
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on our board.
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So I think that LD27 was trying to convince everybody that
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Proud Fit was a conservative.
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SPEAKER_01: We all knew that she wasn't.
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SPEAKER_01: Actually,
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I was one of the last people because I basically told everybody
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to give her a
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SPEAKER_01: chance until we saw how she voted.
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SPEAKER_01: But all the parents, nobody liked her to begin with.
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SPEAKER_01: And then Toby recently just voted with the two leftists,
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SPEAKER_01: so that would be Proudfit and Melissa Ewing,
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SPEAKER_01: to basically unseat Heather Rooks from the presidency on our board.
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SPEAKER_01: My expectation in terms of how the election went two years ago,
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SPEAKER_01: I knew that Toby was beta,
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SPEAKER_01: like I could see it,
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SPEAKER_01: how he acquiesced at the LD meetings,
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because there's a lot of people that are under the impression
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that they hold more
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SPEAKER_01: power than what they actually do.
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SPEAKER_01: But when you're running for office,
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I think you're willing to smile in anyone's face to get where
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you need to be As an
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SPEAKER_01: activist,
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SPEAKER_01: as an advocate,
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I only have to be loyal to the truth So that's probably why
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I'll never run for
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SPEAKER_01: office here But the outcome of elections,
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SPEAKER_01: obviously,
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SPEAKER_01: is that they have consequences And so this is where we are now
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Well you know you laid it out really well you only know what
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you know at the time
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and the limited information you have you don't know the real
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character of a person
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you don't know even their political ideology until they're
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tested and what
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What more of a terrible time to be tested is when the safety of
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kids and their
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SPEAKER_00: sexual sanctity is in jeopardy in a case like this in Peoria.
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SPEAKER_00: So we have two teachers who are now accused of exploiting one
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SPEAKER_00: football player at Centennial High School.
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SPEAKER_00: But there are probably more.
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SPEAKER_00: There's speculation that there's more kids involved.
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At least a lot of the kids and even staff may have even known
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about this months in advance.
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SPEAKER_00: And then it appears that there was at least a failure in reporting,
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which is a class six felony when it involves sexual
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exploitation of a child.
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but how would you describe how this might have been bundled or
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messed up or
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SPEAKER_00: mismanaged and how could have the optics been better?
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SPEAKER_01: Well,
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SPEAKER_01: first of all,
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the police report shows that there are more survivors of even
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the two alleged
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SPEAKER_01: predators because if a child sees pornography
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SPEAKER_01: If it's shared,
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we don't even know how far certain images and videos and stuff
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were shared of two
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SPEAKER_01: grown women being nasty with kids and then
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I mean as far as the optics go here's what I need everybody to
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understand right
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they think on the right that we're upset because Rooks was sat
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down and the
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reasoning behind why Toby stabbed her in the back is due to
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them people on the left
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saying that she had these political ambitions because she's
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running for office and
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all that even if that's true which I'm not here to judge her
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motives it is what it
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SPEAKER_01: is all school board members pretty much unless you just stay
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SPEAKER_01: that humble, I'm just here to fight for the kids type person.
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SPEAKER_01: If you get a little fire in your belly and your backbone gets up a little
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SPEAKER_01: straighter,
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SPEAKER_01: you are going to aspire for higher office.
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SPEAKER_01: And then other people do it for selfish reasons.
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SPEAKER_01: But what I need people to understand is that whatever her motives were,
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she was doing the right thing and asking for additional
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investigations internally
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SPEAKER_01: because it came about that
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the HR department did not do their job that the Centennial High
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School principal
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probably didn't do his job I say probably he didn't and what we
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need people to
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understand is that this is about protecting kids and if you
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don't want your
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district to look like you're covering up sexual abuse probably
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what you wouldn't
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want to do is publicly sit down the person that's fighting for
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the transparency and
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then you've got all the parents online now saying that you're
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part of a cover-up
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SPEAKER_01: you probably wouldn't want to put
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in place as your interim superintendent the HR director who
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oversaw the lack of
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internal investigations so as far as optics go I think because
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Peoria is so big
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they feel like they're going to outlive whatever scandal has
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been created which
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SPEAKER_01: will probably be true which is why it's on parents to take control
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It's the end of a school year by the time this episode airs
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will be into the month of June.
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Parents got a few months to figure it out before the next
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school year starts.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
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things I've learned being an active parent and anybody out
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there who's been to a
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school board meeting to vent the truth to the board or petition
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the board for some
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action no matter how many parents are behind you will learn how
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powerful school
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SPEAKER_00: boards are.
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SPEAKER_00: I always say pound for pound,
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they're the most powerful government body in the United States
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because they can
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SPEAKER_00: just steamroll over parents,
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SPEAKER_00: steamroll over teachers,
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they as long as they look good or are perceived to be look good
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enough to get voted
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back in and realizing that nobody looks at the bottom of the
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ticket you know we are
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the people watching this are but a lot of people don't care
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about school boards so
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they know that they can do whatever they want and the only way
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to get out is to if
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we don't vote them out is to be impeached and I don't think
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that's ever happened in
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SPEAKER_00: Arizona not that I've heard of so and it would have to be really bad yeah
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To be fair,
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Peoria is one of those districts where you see the battle of
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darkness and light.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not completely just overrun with insanity like Scottsdale.
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SPEAKER_01: or Tucson Unified is not completely overrun with the demonic.
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So because you have somebody like a Heather Rooks or a Janelle
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Bowles or some up
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SPEAKER_01: and comers who would align with them coming onto the board,
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you can actually see that light battling the darkness that is
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coming from leftists,
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like our current board president and clerk and the third person
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that they vote
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SPEAKER_01: with.
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And I don't want parents to be discouraged in terms of things
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being lost.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a battle.
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SPEAKER_01: And if you read the Bible,
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SPEAKER_01: you know that from the beginning to the end,
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SPEAKER_01: there is a battle of evil versus good.
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SPEAKER_01: Good according to God's standards, not ours, obviously.
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And when it comes to children and their innocence,
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we should be willing to fight to the death.
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SPEAKER_00: Doesn't matter.
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SPEAKER_01: The death of your career, parents, if you need to
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SPEAKER_01: Do something to take control of the situation, whatever.
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SPEAKER_01: Your kids are worth more than your home or your business.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that's easier said than done.
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SPEAKER_01: But we have a situation where there's an epidemic.
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SPEAKER_01: This is not just one incident here and there.
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This is a disease in the United States public school system
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that adults are preying
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on children and none of our major law enforcement offices are
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consistently tracking
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SPEAKER_01: this,
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SPEAKER_01: studying this,
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SPEAKER_01: reporting on it,
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SPEAKER_01: prosecuting it.
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It has to be something big like Peoria Unified before the
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adults will even care or
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SPEAKER_01: believe the children.
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SPEAKER_01: It's disgusting.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
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we get reports from academic studies that say up to almost 12%
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of kids say at some
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point in their K-12 experience that they've been on the
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receiving end of sexual
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SPEAKER_00: misconduct by an adult at school.
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SPEAKER_00: And then you go even less than that that have reported cases.
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And then you go even less than that that have reported cases to
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law enforcement by
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SPEAKER_00: staff when they're required by law to do that.
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And one of the things going back to the God issue is that we
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have a God who gives
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SPEAKER_00: us a perfect playbook on how human sexuality should work.
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SPEAKER_00: And what have we done?
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We've just thrown that out and laid down as the only rule,
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the rule of consent for these kids.
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SPEAKER_00: And we may have talked about this on a prior podcast.
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but when you do that what if a kid wants to be with a teacher
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in a sexual way
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that's consent I think that's why in Peoria we have a problem
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with the charges not
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yet being assessed is because by the time it all hit the
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headlines this kid was
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discernibly I think above the age of 16 and is now 18 and I was
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told has left the
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SPEAKER_01: state and graduated from somewhere else I can't confirm that
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SPEAKER_01: So everything is alleged, but yeah, that's where we are.
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SPEAKER_01: And I wanted to point out really quick before you continued on,
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SPEAKER_01: that 12%,
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know if that statistic is from the Office of Civil Rights,
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SPEAKER_01: the OCR,
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SPEAKER_01: because I know that they are connected to Title IX.
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SPEAKER_01: But the thing is,
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SPEAKER_01: to me,
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I always interpret that 12% to be the percentage of students
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that are believed
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the percentage of situations that are investigated and or there
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were policies that
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SPEAKER_01: were put in place as a result of an incident so 12% is very very low
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's underreporting.
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SPEAKER_00: No question.
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SPEAKER_00: And what kid would want to tell an adult this?
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I mean,
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you would have to have a driving motivation,
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I think is what you're saying.
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SPEAKER_00: You'd have to be drawing this out of the kids somehow.
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Well,
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at the Peoria board meeting,
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I want to say it was a couple of weeks ago.
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We can probably just put it in the show notes which board
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meeting it was because I
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SPEAKER_01: can't remember the date.
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But there was a student that came and spoke in favor of keeping
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rooks in power and
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SPEAKER_01: as the president and saying, we want this exposed.
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SPEAKER_01: We want adults to believe us.
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SPEAKER_01: We have to be able to, you know, talk about this.
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SPEAKER_01: But of course,
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SPEAKER_01: all of the students were just steamrolled by sitting her down and saying,
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SPEAKER_01: so we're not going to talk about this.
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SPEAKER_01: And then we have that raggedy superintendent, Dr. Summers.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank goodness he's leaving.
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SPEAKER_01: This was his MO.
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SPEAKER_01: I just wanted to throw that out there.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know if anybody saw my op-ed in AZ Free News, but
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When he came from Lewis Palmer School District in Colorado
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there were sex scandals
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going on there and he was the superintendent at the time when
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the student was
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SPEAKER_01: actually allegedly sexually assaulting and harassing students Dr.
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Summers was in a position to put a stock to it and rather than
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that happening the
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SPEAKER_01: kid was allowed to graduate early
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and there was just there was a cover up and so now at the end
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of his career because
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SPEAKER_01: by the time this airs he's back in Colorado in another school district he
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successfully did a staged you know helped stage a coup on our
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school board and you
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know put people in control who are not going to investigate
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corruption and help
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SPEAKER_01: children
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
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we're going to put in the show notes the article that Tiffany
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just referred to from
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the AZ Free News op-ed that she submitted because nobody's
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really talking about the
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background of the superintendent that was there at the center
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of the scandal just
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so happened to go look for another job as soon as the police
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brought their report
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SPEAKER_00: to the district.
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SPEAKER_00: And, you know, I would tell you, Tiffany,
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SPEAKER_00: Some of the facts still need to be confirmed in this whole mess.
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SPEAKER_00: But if you were to try to cover up a child sex scandal,
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Peoria Unified School District is doing the exact thing you do
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to cover it up and
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SPEAKER_00: to cover your butt and keep everybody
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SPEAKER_00: in their jobs.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you know who's been fired other than the two teachers,
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SPEAKER_00: one of which I think resigned,
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SPEAKER_00: the other one was fired.
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One still has her certificate still with the Board of Education
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months and months later.
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SPEAKER_00: But other than these two people,
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who in administration was immediately fired as a result of this
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so that the
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SPEAKER_00: district can save face and move on?
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SPEAKER_00: Who was disrupted as a result of all of this?
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The interim superintendent named Ryan Leducer is the only
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person who has been
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punished that I can discern from in this whole situation
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because he he left
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SPEAKER_01: whatever job he left came to Peoria Unified and was learning from Dr.
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SPEAKER_01: learning the ropes from Dr.
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Summers hopefully not learning anything character wise from him
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but was going to
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SPEAKER_01: pick up where he left off and as of
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Friday May 22nd when we're recording this he has been replaced
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by the what's her
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what's her name it's a personnel manager I think or director of
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personnel yeah
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she's the director of HR visitainer is the last visitainer what
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the heck kind of
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last I don't know what that is but anyway so yeah he is the
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only person that I can
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discern administratively that has been punished when it comes
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to the Centennial
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SPEAKER_01: High School principal Scott Holibaugh
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SPEAKER_01: To my knowledge,
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SPEAKER_01: and someone can correct us if we're wrong here,
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SPEAKER_01: but to my knowledge,
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SPEAKER_01: that fool is still walking the halls.
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SPEAKER_01: Unfortunately,
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teachers and students still have to look at him in the middle
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of the police
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investigations that are still going on in the middle of the
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Maricopa County
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SPEAKER_01: Attorney's Office still investigating the situation.
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And I wanted to point out when the sex scandal broke out a
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couple of years ago
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SPEAKER_01: surrounding that psycho,
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SPEAKER_01: Mr.
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SPEAKER_01: Orange,
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SPEAKER_01: basically the Peoria High School principal
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She was actually placed on administrative leave even though she
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did follow mandated
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reporting and she was eventually whisked away to some other
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position in the
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district and I know that there's probably some division on
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whether or not she
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should have kept her job or moved to a different place but the
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comparison by which
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she was treated versus Halabaugh is night and day and you know
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on the right we
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don't usually scream too loud about sexism but I just I just
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feel like I I
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SPEAKER_01: that he's getting to stay where he's at because he's a man.
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SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
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SPEAKER_01: I can't think of...
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know any other reason.
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SPEAKER_00: Are you talking about the 2019 scandal at Sun Valley Elementary School?
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SPEAKER_01: No.
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SPEAKER_01: This was in 2024.
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SPEAKER_01: Mr. Orange.
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SPEAKER_01: His name is Patrick Batillo.
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SPEAKER_00: Huh.
20:12
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: And he was recently charged.
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SPEAKER_01: with child sex crimes.
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SPEAKER_01: And in that situation,
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there was a mandated reporter named Holly Holgate who actually
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tipped him off when
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SPEAKER_01: the cops came to make an arrest.
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SPEAKER_01: When I recently tried to research her,
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I could not find any court documents showing that she had been
20:30
charged with
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SPEAKER_01: anything.
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So this is the reason why mandated reporting,
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which is the law,
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is important.
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SPEAKER_01: There's no reason why, even in good faith,
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you shouldn't be reporting something our goal right and this
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should not be a
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partisan thing our goal should be to protect children there
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really shouldn't be any
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issue it's not that complicated right right so as a result of
20:56
that did the district
20:58
say hey there was a big failure here and here's how we're going
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to fix it how did
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SPEAKER_00: that go
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SPEAKER_01: No.
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The excuses of why Heather was unseated is because they felt
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that her asking the
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Maricopa County attorney for an investigation specifically into
21:17
mandated reporting
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was going to disrupt an investigation that was going on with
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the police department
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and with the two predators because those two had the most
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egregious crimes that the
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SPEAKER_01: cops would focus on that.
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SPEAKER_01: So what it would take is somebody with a keen eye to
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SPEAKER_01: like Janelle and Heather have to say,
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SPEAKER_01: hey,
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SPEAKER_01: there were additional laws broken that we wanna go ahead and look into.
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And the county attorney said that they gave the green light and
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said it was fine.
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SPEAKER_01: But I think from the school district's perspective,
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they just want to be able to hush everything up and move on and
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give out their
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trophies and say look we're the 85th largest school district in
21:57
the state and we're
21:58
so great even though our state is a complete big fat F when it
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comes to education
22:04
they want to be able to parade their little A school ratings
22:08
and the kids that are
22:09
actually doing a remarkable job they're using that I think as a
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narrative scapegoat
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SPEAKER_01: on the ground level
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So they did nothing after this yet to make any acknowledgement
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of a failure or
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SPEAKER_00: certainly since they're not admitting any sort of failure,
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SPEAKER_00: no corrections.
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And then in the case about Mr.
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Orange,
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who you described as Mr.
22:30
Orange,
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did they do it then?
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SPEAKER_00: Did they say he was goofed up?
22:33
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: And then he got fired though.
22:35
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: Well,
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the only reason I think he got fired is because of the
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conservatives that were on
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SPEAKER_01: the board at the time,
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SPEAKER_01: which was Becky Hill and Heather Rooks.
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They and all of the parents and us grassroots folks made so
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much noise that there
22:49
was no way that he was just going to quietly resign and be able
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to go teach
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SPEAKER_01: somewhere else whenever he got out of prison.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: Well,
22:56
here's the common thread to wrap this part of the conversation
22:59
up is that in 2019,
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there was another incident that I referred to earlier at Sun
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Valley Elementary.
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SPEAKER_00: where Ricky Ordway,
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SPEAKER_00: who's in prison now in Kingman where he should be,
23:08
was molesting young girls between 9 and 11 years old in front
23:13
of the class for a
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SPEAKER_00: year.
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SPEAKER_00: And then he was removed in May after school was done.
23:19
SPEAKER_00: And the parents sued and they wanted $25 million.
23:25
SPEAKER_00: And the district,
23:25
SPEAKER_00: in the midst of all this latest scandal on April 23rd,
23:29
SPEAKER_00: they agreed to a settlement.
23:31
SPEAKER_00: Nobody was,
23:32
when everybody's got their eyes off the ball looking at this
23:35
current thing with
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SPEAKER_00: Heather Rooks getting unseated and this big scandal,
23:40
SPEAKER_00: they settle this other scandal.
23:41
And the parents in the complaint said the culture was ripe for
23:45
this kind of abuse
23:47
SPEAKER_00: and the school's doing nothing.
23:49
SPEAKER_00: Now that they settled,
23:50
all of the evidence is going to be sealed forever and the
23:52
school will never have to
23:53
SPEAKER_00: admit failure.
23:54
So they're never going to admit and look for any sort of
23:57
correction either.
23:58
SPEAKER_00: So that's three different scandals.
24:01
Three different times they've had a chance to be able to make
24:03
an improvement.
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So I want you to tell me why the GOP and the Republicans and
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the conservatives,
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SPEAKER_00: just so you can see my air quotes,
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SPEAKER_00: conservatives,
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are causing such a problem for themselves and what you
24:20
personally experienced the
24:21
SPEAKER_00: other day.
24:21
Because I guess the teachers union president for the area was
24:27
welcomed with open
24:27
SPEAKER_00: arms in the Republican Party.
24:30
SPEAKER_00: district meeting.
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But when you came as a conservative,
24:35
proven by the shirt you're wearing now,
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right?
24:38
SPEAKER_00: In the life I live.
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SPEAKER_00: You're wearing that there, right?
24:42
SPEAKER_00: How'd it go?
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So somebody coached the Peoria Education Association president
24:50
to register
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SPEAKER_01: Republican before that meeting because I'm willing to bet
24:55
the few pennies that I have that she ain't been no Republican
24:58
for a long time but
25:00
at the end of the day neither has Becky Proudfit whose guest we
25:03
believe she is I
25:05
don't have the paperwork on that right now but when Proudfit
25:10
was doing her little
25:11
speech at the LD28 meeting she invited everybody in the guest
25:15
section to become a
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SPEAKER_01: PC in LD28 and to join the social media pages myself
25:23
SPEAKER_01: and I think this probably broke a few people's hearts.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: I lost followers.
25:27
SPEAKER_01: I even had a person who barely knows me.
25:29
She just straight up blocked me after it came out that I am
25:33
actually registered with no party.
25:36
So it doesn't matter how MAGA I am,
25:38
how conservative,
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how Christian,
25:39
which is the real deal.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm a little too Christian.
25:43
SPEAKER_01: I'm further right than the majority of the Republican Party.
25:47
SPEAKER_01: And so, yes, I was escorted out.
25:50
SPEAKER_01: There is this secretary chick
25:53
SPEAKER_01: who came over and there was a police officer behind her.
25:56
SPEAKER_01: It was not a security guard.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: This was an on-duty police officer who came up with her.
26:01
Mind you,
26:01
one of the leftists was escorted out by her friend,
26:04
but I don't know.
26:05
SPEAKER_00: They needed guns for you.
26:07
SPEAKER_01: They needed guns for me.
26:09
SPEAKER_01: And I said in my substack,
26:12
SPEAKER_01: I said,
26:12
SPEAKER_01: you know,
26:12
SPEAKER_01: if I was a leftist,
26:14
SPEAKER_01: this is the part where I would cry racist and start a GoFundMe.
26:18
SPEAKER_01: because I know that they were all leftists in there anyway.
26:20
SPEAKER_01: So yes, came over and was like, hey, we need to have a talk outside.
26:25
SPEAKER_01: And so these females are trying to explain to me why they put me out.
26:30
SPEAKER_01: And I said, you don't need to explain.
26:31
SPEAKER_01: I already know what's going on here.
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SPEAKER_01: I was part of the nuisance of how some photos were
26:41
shall I say posted all over social media yeah I'm going to snap
26:44
a picture because
26:45
you got all these liberals and leftists and democrats just
26:48
sitting in the LD28
26:49
meeting and they are welcome with open arms I was there
26:52
specifically to watch the
26:54
vote for support for that retarded letter that LD28 put out in
27:00
support of Prophet
27:02
and Toby voting Heather out of office that's how I'm going to
27:04
describe it and
27:05
SPEAKER_01: people can read that for themselves but essentially
27:09
SPEAKER_01: This is supposed to be nonpartisan on the school boards.
27:13
So that's why I was there waiting until the end of the meeting
27:16
just to see what
27:17
SPEAKER_01: further they were going to say because our LDs,
27:20
SPEAKER_01: I think,
27:20
SPEAKER_01: should not be this involved.
27:21
You can't be so hypocritical as to always be calling Democrats
27:25
crazy when you're a
27:27
SPEAKER_01: right-wing nutjob yourself.
27:29
SPEAKER_01: And if you want politics out of the schools,
27:31
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to keep saying this,
27:32
SPEAKER_01: then lead by example.
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SPEAKER_01: Obviously, it's not possible because we
27:37
are so politically entrenched and we can't just,
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you know,
27:41
be about values and protecting kids.
27:43
SPEAKER_01: It is very political,
27:45
SPEAKER_01: but I just think that it's also hypocritical that,
27:47
SPEAKER_01: yeah,
27:48
based on a registration that the union leader is now welcomed
27:55
to become a PC and
27:56
SPEAKER_01: participate in LD28,
27:57
but myself as a conservative registered no party who has
28:01
historically been
28:02
SPEAKER_01: Republican when I was doing PC work,
28:04
SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not welcome.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm okay with that.
28:07
SPEAKER_00: I'm good.
28:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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And those of us godly conservatives that put God first before
28:13
conservative,
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SPEAKER_00: we have a standard to appeal to,
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SPEAKER_00: and we're always going to be driven in our moral values by that.
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SPEAKER_00: It's really unfortunate that the GOP and the Republicans,
28:24
SPEAKER_00: who we typically align the most with,
28:27
SPEAKER_00: are so unreliable,
28:28
SPEAKER_00: especially in the West Valley and Peoria there in the Phoenix area.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: where you just can't count on them.
28:33
You can't count on them during the election and then you can't
28:35
count on them when
28:36
SPEAKER_00: they're tested,
28:37
SPEAKER_00: truly tested.
28:38
SPEAKER_00: And then they stab you in the back because they send a letter.
28:40
The letter you're referring to is a letter in support of the
28:43
coup that they did at
28:44
the Peoria Unified School District to get rid of the one person
28:47
who is asking for
28:48
SPEAKER_00: an independent investigation.
28:49
SPEAKER_00: Well, Tiffany, it's crazy.
28:52
SPEAKER_00: It's always crazy.
28:53
SPEAKER_00: We always have crazy things to talk about.
28:55
SPEAKER_00: And let's just pray that things can
28:58
Get Better And It's Only Unless Like The Lorax Says Unless
29:04
Somebody Does Something
29:06
It's Not So Get Out There And Be Active Pay Attention To Who
29:10
Your School Board
29:11
Candidates Are And Let's Make Some Real Change What Do You
29:15
Think What Are The Last
29:16
Words For You Hey The Last Words For Me Are Always Going To Be
29:20
Parents Pay
29:21
Attention That's The Name Of My Substack ParentsPayAttention.com
29:25
Pay Attention If
29:26
SPEAKER_01: Your Child Reports
29:28
SPEAKER_01: Something funny about a teacher,
29:30
SPEAKER_01: whether they're showing too much attention to certain students,
29:32
SPEAKER_01: if there's back rubbing and touching and excessive compliments and gifts,
29:36
SPEAKER_01: don't blow that stuff off.
29:38
SPEAKER_01: Don't blow it off because by the time a kid says something to you,
29:41
SPEAKER_01: that took a lot of bravery,
29:42
SPEAKER_01: a lot of guts,
29:43
a lot of back and forth in their mind of whether or not you're
29:46
going to believe
29:47
SPEAKER_01: them or you're going to get mad at them or whatever.
29:49
SPEAKER_01: So when kids speak up, take them seriously and investigate everything.