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Cam Jordan Out vs. Lions: What His Absence Means for the Saints’ EDGE Room · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 2: Cam's going to do everything possible to play in this game. So, again,
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  Speaker 2: he's progressing well. He's done a really good job through
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  Speaker 2: this recovery process. And we'll just take it week by week.
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  Speaker 3: It's Kellen Moore.
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  Speaker 1: Cam Jordan is going to miss the third game of
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  Speaker 1: his professional career. He's been an incredible Ironman. He missed
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  Speaker 1: his first game ever in 21 with COVID. And then
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  Speaker 1: a year later in 2022, he missed a game for
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  Speaker 1: the first time ever due to injury. That's when he
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  Speaker 1: had the facial fracture. He missed just one game, which
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  Speaker 1: that ended up itself to miss one game with.
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  Speaker 3: A facial fracture. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So this will be just the second time in his
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  Speaker 1: career that he misses a game due to injury. But
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  Speaker 1: the third game he'll miss in his career. You heard
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  Speaker 1: Kellen Moore say it there that he's trying everything he
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  Speaker 1: can to get back. And they'll take it sort of
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  Speaker 1: week by week. Kellen Moore also was asked about if
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  Speaker 1: this could be an IR designation situation.
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  Speaker 2: I thought you didn't place him in IR.
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  Speaker 3: Is there hope that.
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  Speaker 2: He returns with him, I guess, the first four? I
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  Speaker 2: think there's potential. Yeah, again, we'll just see how this
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  Speaker 2: thing responds.
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  Speaker 3: I don't love the answer.
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  Speaker 1: I can also understand not knowing the severity and how
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  Speaker 1: long that injury may linger, but Obviously, as you heard
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  Speaker 1: in the question there, if Cam was placed on short-term IR,
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  Speaker 1: he'd miss the first month. That's what they're doing with
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Tyson, right? So it does free up a roster spot.
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  Speaker 1: This is the conversation you might remember we had a
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  Speaker 1: year ago with Chase Young. When he missed the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of the season with injury, we were wondering, you know,
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  Speaker 1: are you going to place him on short-term IR, which
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  Speaker 1: would free up a roster spot? They didn't because the
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  Speaker 1: assumption was that he would be back within that first month.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't, as it were. So you effectively just punted
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  Speaker 1: a roster spot for that first month of the season,
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  Speaker 1: which was disappointing and proved to be just a a
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  Speaker 1: miss on the saints front office and management of the
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  Speaker 1: roster side of that. Um, I am, I'm disappointed for cam, um, just,
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  Speaker 1: just on its face because he's been so durable and
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  Speaker 1: he's one of the greatest new Orleans saints ever. And
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be in the saints hall of fame
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  Speaker 1: and the saints ring of honor. And I believe is
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  Speaker 1: going to be a pro football hall of famer one day. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, 243 career games played. He's got 132 sacks and, uh,
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  Speaker 1: after the double-digit sack season a year ago, the awesome
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  Speaker 1: bounce back after he had gone from 12.5 in 21
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  Speaker 1: to 8.5 to 2 to 4. I mean, it really
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  Speaker 1: felt like Cam had fallen off the proverbial cliff in
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  Speaker 1: his career that it was over. And to have that
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  Speaker 1: nice bounce back as a part-time player, really, where he
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  Speaker 1: played about half the snaps but doubled his productivity, was
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  Speaker 1: great to see because it showed, look, man, if he's
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  Speaker 1: not on the field for 95%, 99% of the snaps,
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  Speaker 1: which he played most of his career, Maybe as a
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  Speaker 1: situational rusher, he could still have effectiveness. That's kind of
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  Speaker 1: the hope here. But the thing that I am excited
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  Speaker 1: to see with Cam out, I'm not excited that Cam's out.
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  Speaker 1: Don't misunderstand me. Of course, you're better with your veteran,
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  Speaker 1: one of the greatest pass rushers in NFL history on
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  Speaker 1: the field. You're better with Cam Jordan there. What I
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  Speaker 1: am excited to see is what it looks like without him.
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  Speaker 1: Because remember, the Saints constructed this roster defensively in this
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  Speaker 1: offseason with the assumption that Cam Jordan was not going
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  Speaker 1: to be there. Remember, this was the whole offseason conversation
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  Speaker 1: around Cam, where they had not agreed to terms on
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  Speaker 1: an extension.
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  Speaker 3: He was an unrestricted free agent.
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  Speaker 1: Cam hit free agency, went unsigned, and the Saints went
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  Speaker 1: into the draft, and while they didn't select an edge
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  Speaker 1: rusher highly, they did make a trade with the Raiders to.
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  Speaker 3: Acquire Tyree Wilson.
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  Speaker 1: And Tyree Wilson, as we well know, is the former
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  Speaker 1: top 10 overall pick of the Raiders and had been
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  Speaker 1: a good run stopping end with the Raiders, but never
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  Speaker 1: really emerged as the true pass rushing threat. And so
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  Speaker 1: the Saints sent a fifth round pick in this year's
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  Speaker 1: draft to the Raiders for Wilson and a seven. So
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  Speaker 1: this is a guy that the Saints are invested in.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a top 10 pick like like the Raiders
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  Speaker 1: invested when they took Tyree Wilson, but considering you gave
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  Speaker 1: up a five to acquire him at the time you
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  Speaker 1: did not think you were going to re-sign Cam Jordan,
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  Speaker 1: it tells you, yes, there's an expectation. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: Tyree Wilson still looks awesome. I mean, he physically, the
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  Speaker 1: way he fills out the uniform and looks the part,
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  Speaker 1: I'm very excited to see what that looks like, where
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  Speaker 1: you're going to have the combination of Chase Young, Carl Granderson,
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  Speaker 1: Tyree Wilson, as your defensive ends. And then you throw
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Jennings in the mix as well, who the Saints
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  Speaker 1: got from New England.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Necessarily what my expectations are for Anthony Jennings.
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  Speaker 3: And I know he's a.
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  Speaker 1: Defensive end, but really more of an outside linebacker is
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  Speaker 1: kind of how they slot him. But make no mistake,
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  Speaker 1: they're using him as an edge, as someone who's going
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  Speaker 1: to play in the boundary and help generate pressure, and
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  Speaker 1: hopefully negative plays. So you have two young veterans here,
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  Speaker 1: and Jennings, who's 29 years old, and Tyree Wilson, who's
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  Speaker 1: 26 years old. You have two young veteran pass rushers
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  Speaker 1: that you've brought in to help supplement that spot opposite
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  Speaker 1: your two starter, behind your two starters, in Chase Young
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  Speaker 1: and Carl Granderson. This is what it was supposed to
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  Speaker 1: look like. So here in week one, or for however
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  Speaker 1: long Cam's gone, This will actually be a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a glimpse, perhaps, into the future, not just this year,
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  Speaker 1: but what next year and beyond may look like with
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  Speaker 1: these guys if they stick and stay with the New
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  Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. So I think it's multiple ways to look
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  Speaker 1: at it. I'm disappointed for Cam missing the game, and
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  Speaker 1: I want Cam there and available because he showed he
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  Speaker 1: still has some chops as a pass rusher, even situationally.
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  Speaker 1: I am excited to see what the vision of adding–
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  Speaker 1: Wilson and Jennings may look like here from jump against
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  Speaker 1: that Detroit team this week. And as we talked about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, one of the big storylines there in Detroit,
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  Speaker 1: now this affects the interior of the line, not necessarily,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the tackle spots where they have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: one of the best in the league in Panay Sewell,
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  Speaker 1: but Cade Mays is the center, former Tennessee Vol, Cade
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  Speaker 1: Mays is the center of that they acquired who was
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  Speaker 1: injured in camp and is out, might miss the whole season.
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  Speaker 1: So there will be a new starting center on the
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  Speaker 1: interior of that Detroit line. So maybe some opportunities there
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  Speaker 1: for the Saints. Obviously, we know David Montgomery's injured as
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  Speaker 1: well there for the Lions. So while Jameer Gibbs is excellent,
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  Speaker 1: they were expecting, you know, to have that 1-2 and
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  Speaker 1: to be down to just the 1 and to be
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  Speaker 1: down your center. I'm interested to see how the saints may,
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  Speaker 1: may fare there on the defensive side of the ball
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  Speaker 1: against Detroit, a, uh, Alliance team looking for a bounce
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  Speaker 1: back after a disappointing season a year ago, where, you know,
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  Speaker 1: where they were nine and eight, but coming off of
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  Speaker 1: 15 and two campaign, you know, they lose, as we know,
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  Speaker 1: both of their, both of their coordinators. And it just,
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  Speaker 1: Shep did, did Kelvin Shepard did fine last year. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but to see, um, uh, To see that
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  Speaker 1: offense struggle the way it did a year ago and
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  Speaker 1: now to have some of the injuries with Montgomery gone.
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  Speaker 1: You're leaning on Jameer Gibbs. You don't have your starting center.
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  Speaker 1: And to see the Saints defensive front, how might they fare?
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  Speaker 1: I'm at least interested.
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's going to be watching the offensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 1: We all want to see what Tyler Shuck looks like.
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  Speaker 1: It's a bummer that there's going to be no Jordan Tyson.
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  Speaker 1: But the biggest question mark for Detroit this week is
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  Speaker 1: their secondary defense. And so, can you get the offense going?
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  Speaker 1: For sure, that's going to be what a lot of
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  Speaker 1: us are watching to see what the Saints might be
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  Speaker 1: this year in year two under Shuck and Kellen Morris.
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  Speaker 1: Can Tyler Shuck take that next step? They've given him
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the weapons. That's where the focus will be. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if that's 1A, 1B is going to be
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  Speaker 1: this defensive front because they have invested in that defensive
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  Speaker 1: front quite heavily to see what it looks like. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Cam's not playing. We know DeMario's now with the Jets. So,
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  Speaker 1: They've invested in getting younger in that defensive front seven.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see. Christian Miller.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see how it looks with a lot of that
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  Speaker 1: young defensive front against Detroit here in week one.
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  Speaker 3: All right. It's after further review.
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  Speaker 1: wait for the official injury report to drop here on Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: which is not out yet. Yesterday, I think it was
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  Speaker 1: sometime in the four o'clock hours, a little later than
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  Speaker 1: normal when we saw that injury report drop. So we're
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  Speaker 1: waiting on today's injury report. Yesterday, Delp, Estime, Cam, who's out,
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  Speaker 1: and Camara were the four listed. Delp, Estime, and Jordan
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  Speaker 1: were DNPs. Camara was limited with the knee. So we'll
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  Speaker 1: wait and see what it looks like here on Thursday. Remember,
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  Speaker 1: Friday really is the day worth looking at because by
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  Speaker 1: the time you get to Friday, what?
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  Speaker 3: It's out. Just dropped. Good timing. Well, I'm not loading here. Well,
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 3: everyone you just mentioned, is this the official injury report?
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  Speaker 3: Is this just participation? I'm looking at the official injury report.
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  Speaker 1: Um, Dell estimate, Jordan, all DNP again. Okay. Camaro with
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  Speaker 1: the knee limited again with the knee, with the knee
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  Speaker 1: Devon Godshaw added, did not practice, but that's that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. He did that all last year too.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And then everything for the lions remain the exact same.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Um, Camaro will be the one to watch
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  Speaker 3: for tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Again, if by Friday you're not at least limited,
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine going on a Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: So that'll be the one to circle and look for.