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The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Brian Kilmeade on 2028, Kamala Harris & the Democrats’ Socialist Shift · The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tudor Dixon podcast. We have Brian Kilmeade
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  Speaker 1: with us today, and he is going to share some
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  Speaker 1: of his wild predictions about 2028. But first, I need
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  Speaker 1: to talk to you about a U.S. senator who has
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  Speaker 1: her eyes on the presidential race in 2028, Alyssa Slotkin.
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  Speaker 1: She is definitely trying to be president. She's traveling around
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  Speaker 1: the country. She's trashing Kamala Harris and telling anyone who
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  Speaker 1: will listen that the next president of the United States
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  Speaker 1: is especially the candidate on the Democrat side, will be
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  Speaker 1: someone outside of the list that the mainstream media is
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  Speaker 1: talking about. So translation for that is she wants it
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  Speaker 1: to be her. I would argue she actually, even though
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  Speaker 1: she comes off as this like sweet Midwestern girl and
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  Speaker 1: her ads, she's from Michigan. I saw her ads. Her
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  Speaker 1: ads were her. And oddly enough, I work with Trump.
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  Speaker 2: Me.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think there's anything, you know, we shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have parties. We should work together. We shouldn't think of
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  Speaker 1: each other as Democrats and Republicans. I'll work with anybody.
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  Speaker 1: The reality of her, I think she is one of
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  Speaker 1: the most dangerous fascists out there. And I mean it
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  Speaker 1: when I say fascist, that you hear that word thrown
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  Speaker 1: around by the left all the time. Her latest comments
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  Speaker 1: will horrify you and scare you for your family, for
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  Speaker 1: your kids. But before we play that, I want to
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  Speaker 1: remind you a little bit. Don't forget, she's part of
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  Speaker 1: the Seditious Six. Remember, they made that video telling service members,
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  Speaker 1: don't carry out the orders of the commander in chief.
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  Speaker 1: Do not carry out the orders of President Trump and
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  Speaker 1: indicating that. that any orders that he has are illegal.
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  Speaker 1: She said, you can refuse illegal orders. No one has
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  Speaker 1: to carry out orders that violate the law. We need
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  Speaker 1: you to stand up for our laws. Right now, the
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  Speaker 1: threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but
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  Speaker 1: right here at home. You swore an oath to defend
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  Speaker 1: and protect the Constitution. These are the things that she said.
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  Speaker 1: And she put a video out knowing that this was
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  Speaker 1: going to make news. She was widely seen as telling
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  Speaker 1: service members not to carry out the orders of the president.
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  Speaker 1: And then when people said, like, why would you do this?
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  Speaker 1: Why would you make this video telling service members what
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  Speaker 1: they're doing is wrong? Not only are you hurting morale,
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  Speaker 1: but you're also risking a service member out there in
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  Speaker 1: the field making the wrong call because you're telling them
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  Speaker 1: not to. And remember, she is a CIA person. So
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  Speaker 1: she comes, she's an analyst for the CIA. So she
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  Speaker 1: comes from a background that people tend to trust. So
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  Speaker 1: now she's doing the same thing. After this, after she
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  Speaker 1: did this, she played the victim card. Oh, they're coming
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  Speaker 1: after me. She's doing the same thing right now. These
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  Speaker 1: are her most recent threatening remarks. This is to students.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to listen to what she had to say,
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  Speaker 1: and then we're going to talk about it afterward.
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  Speaker 2: This is it.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: I want to look at these signature cases and not
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  Speaker 3: just focus on the president, but on the people who
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  Speaker 3: enabled him. I want young people coming out of school
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  Speaker 3: to say, should I go work for the Trump administration?
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  Speaker 1: Like, that sounds fun. I might get an opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: I want them to be like, Lord, that might be
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  Speaker 3: buying myself a ton of problems that I don't want.
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  Speaker 3: And so let me avoid participating in that. I want
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  Speaker 3: that deterrence message.
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  Speaker 1: I want that deterrence message. This is it. this, folks,
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  Speaker 1: is fascism. This is where you get your name put
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  Speaker 1: on a list. You're an enemy of the state. And
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  Speaker 1: we've seen this. Conservatives have gone through this. So when
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  Speaker 1: we hear it, it's not a mystery. This is not
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  Speaker 1: something new. This is not something unknown. We've seen the prosecutions.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen jail time. We've been debanked. We've been deplatformed.
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  Speaker 1: There are conservatives in the state of Michigan, her home state,
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  Speaker 1: who have had their business licenses revoked and Because they
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  Speaker 1: were on the wrong side of a political issue. This
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  Speaker 1: is fascism. Make a list of political enemies. Make that public.
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  Speaker 1: Take away the normal methods of doing business or having
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  Speaker 1: life in general for them. Ban them from speaking. Make
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  Speaker 1: an example of anyone who goes against our correct way
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  Speaker 1: of thinking, comrade. That's what she's saying. And people... said
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  Speaker 1: she's playing the victim. Now, as soon as she, she is,
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  Speaker 1: as soon as she comes out and says this and
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  Speaker 1: people go, what are you doing? Like, what are you saying?
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  Speaker 1: You're literally saying our kids that get out of school,
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  Speaker 1: if they decide to join our party, if they decide
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  Speaker 1: to serve their country in any way as a Republican,
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  Speaker 1: they should be prosecuted. And trust me, I'm someone who
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  Speaker 1: ran for office. I look at my children right now
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  Speaker 1: who are teenagers going into college, and guess what? Public school,
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  Speaker 1: public universities, I am afraid for them to go because
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  Speaker 1: if they find out who their mom is, this is
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  Speaker 1: the kind of treatment they're going to get. You know why?
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  Speaker 4: A U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Senator is telling these radical professors, it's okay, put them
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  Speaker 1: on a list. They don't deserve opportunities. They don't deserve
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  Speaker 1: good things. They should think about this and go, hey,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm a conservative, I could have problems. That's what
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  Speaker 1: she's saying. But now she's saying, oh, my gosh, I'm
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  Speaker 1: the victim.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to this.
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  Speaker 3: Also to kind of like try to play, you know,
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  Speaker 3: reverse Zuno or whatever on you and push back.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the goal, by the way, is to intimidate.
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  Speaker 3: The goal is to create so many threats against you,
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  Speaker 3: your family and your staff that you shut up. My
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  Speaker 3: staff has been doxed today. I mean, it has been
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  Speaker 3: a very tough day for us purposely. They're doing that purposely.
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  Speaker 3: And I think people need to understand that these are
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  Speaker 3: kind of the authoritarian tactics that are used across the world,
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  Speaker 3: not just by this president, but by people who understand
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  Speaker 3: that threats of physical violence get their opponents to shut up.
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  Speaker 1: That's their goal. So this is classic gaslighting. I'm not wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything wrong. You're threatening me. You saw
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  Speaker 1: the difference between the first clip and this clip. She
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  Speaker 1: threatened us. If she wants young people in the Republican
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  Speaker 1: Party to think, if I want to work for this administration,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to have problems. You think those problems are
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  Speaker 1: just that I might not have friends? No, she's talking.
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  Speaker 1: She said, if there are cases, I want everybody near
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  Speaker 1: him to be wrapped up in those cases. Those are prosecutions.
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  Speaker 1: That's jail time. That's trying to make sure that you
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  Speaker 1: silence your opponent. She is now going, I didn't say
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  Speaker 1: anything and I'm being threatened. My staff is being doxxed.
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  Speaker 1: And I think people weren't buying that. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: like even in that interview, she could feel that this
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  Speaker 1: is not the right card to pull right now. I
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  Speaker 1: need to throw something else out there because I made
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  Speaker 1: this threat. Now I'm trying to claim that I'm the
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  Speaker 1: threatened one. So then, of course, she pulls the sexism card.
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  Speaker 1: Here it is.
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  Speaker 3: I do think there's something about being a woman and
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  Speaker 3: criticizing them and calling them out on that corruption that
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  Speaker 3: really gets under their skin, obviously, or they wouldn't respond,
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  Speaker 3: you know, remember the Second Amendment sweetheart.
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  Speaker 1: Or all that crap.
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  Speaker 3: But I think it's more that it's not.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking to them. It's speaking to.
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  Speaker 3: The people who are potentially going to be asked to
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  Speaker 3: follow illegal requests, right? It's speaking directly to the people
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  Speaker 3: who are on the receiving end of this administration.
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  Speaker 1: So she goes right back to, oh, I'm just trying
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  Speaker 1: to make things legal. And I'm a woman. So of
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  Speaker 1: course they're attacking me for it. Look, I'm a parent.
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  Speaker 1: Alyssa Slotkin is not. I have kids. And yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: hope they're going to be conservatives. And I would cheer
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  Speaker 1: them on if they decided to serve their country. And
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  Speaker 1: she would try to prosecute them. So yeah, there are
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  Speaker 1: a few of us out there as parents who look
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  Speaker 1: at you, and let me make this clear, has nothing
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  Speaker 1: to do with you being a woman. When you threaten
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  Speaker 1: our families, when you threaten our kids, when you threaten
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  Speaker 1: our ideology, when you threaten our speech, it is un-American.
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  Speaker 1: And it is disqualifying for you to come out and say,
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  Speaker 1: it's not because I said something wrong. It's because I'm
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  Speaker 1: a woman. It's like the little boy that cried wolf.
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  Speaker 1: This is not a normal reaction to your bad behavior
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  Speaker 1: to claim you're being mistreated because you're a woman. You're
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  Speaker 1: being told you cannot say these things. You cannot threaten
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  Speaker 1: our families. You cannot threaten our children because you think
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  Speaker 1: you have a little bit of power because you are
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  Speaker 1: a U.S. senator. And if you think that as a U.S. senator,
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  Speaker 1: you can become the next president by threatening our children,
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  Speaker 1: you are dead wrong. It is disqualifying. But as much
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  Speaker 1: as I do think that even the Democrat Party won't
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  Speaker 1: elevate someone like this, Because she's trashing the rest of
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  Speaker 1: her party, too. As I said, she's trashing Harris. Anybody
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  Speaker 1: who gets in her way, she just tries to eliminate,
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  Speaker 1: whether it is verbally or I guess with a prosecution.
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  Speaker 1: She wants to get rid of them. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they're going to be ready for that yet. But
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  Speaker 1: I think they might. They might just take her on
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  Speaker 1: as vice president. So you need to watch her because
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  Speaker 1: she will be a top fascist dictator. She is just
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  Speaker 1: waiting to get her hands on the controls of the
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  Speaker 1: country and to control your children and get them to
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  Speaker 1: fall in line, to control my children and have problems
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  Speaker 1: come their way. There is an endless list of problems
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  Speaker 1: that Alyssa Slotkin can create for our kids, for our families.
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  Speaker 1: And she may even grab Jack Smith's latest predetermined list
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  Speaker 1: of MAGA donors to start her prosecutions. Remember, Jack Smith
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  Speaker 1: was just exposed because he's been collecting a list of
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  Speaker 1: people who bought MAGA apparel, collecting a list over 600,000 times.
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  Speaker 1: people strong of their bank accounts, of the cards that
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  Speaker 1: they used, of their names, of their addresses. And she's
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  Speaker 1: claiming everything she says, remember, is actually something she's doing.
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  Speaker 1: If your name is on there, expect to be doxxed.
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  Speaker 1: Expect your family to be out there in the public
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  Speaker 1: eye as enemy number one in Alyssa Slotkin's list of
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  Speaker 1: enemies if she gets any more power. And she should not,
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  Speaker 1: she should not be elected again to the U.S.
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  Speaker 2: Senate.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm telling you, keep your eyes on this one.
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  Speaker 1: She is one of the most dangerous senators out there
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  Speaker 1: because she'll say anything for power. And I don't, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not even joking. Don't forget, this is the woman who
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  Speaker 1: now says, that if you want to work with the administration,
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  Speaker 1: that you should think, Lord, I might have problems coming
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  Speaker 1: my way if I work with President Trump. But in
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  Speaker 1: her ads in Michigan, she bragged that she worked with
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  Speaker 1: President Trump. So like I said, she'll do anything to
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  Speaker 1: get power because now anyone around him should be prosecuted.
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  Speaker 1: But I guess based on her own ads, she should
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  Speaker 1: be prosecuted too. So when I see things like this,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, where are all the true statesmen? And I'm
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  Speaker 1: so glad that I have Brian Kilmeade here to talk
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  Speaker 1: to me about not only the statesmen of the past,
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  Speaker 1: but the statesmen of the future. Stay tuned. He's going
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  Speaker 1: to be talking to us right after this.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited because we have one of my favorite co-hosts
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  Speaker 1: of Fox and Friends with us. Actually, I would say
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  Speaker 1: the funniest one because and I don't mean that to
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  Speaker 1: insult Ainsley or Lawrence, but we have Brian Kilmeade with
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  Speaker 1: us today. And Brian, there are times when you say
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  Speaker 1: things and I think you are just like slipping it
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  Speaker 1: in off the cuff. And I don't even know if
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  Speaker 1: everybody always notices on the set, but I laugh out
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  Speaker 1: loud at home. So I appreciate the fact that you
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  Speaker 1: are very funny.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much, Tudor. I appreciate it. And
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  Speaker 2: I always love when you come by, you always come
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  Speaker 2: up and do radio too. So I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: I do. I do.
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  Speaker 1: I love your show. We always talk about how you
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  Speaker 1: must be the hardest working man at Fox because you
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  Speaker 1: literally go from morning to radio, Saturdays, but you're on
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  Speaker 1: other people's shows all day long. So I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how you do it. And then you write a book.
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  Speaker 1: Like what in the world? How do you find the
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  Speaker 1: time to do all of this?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, this took almost three years.
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  Speaker 4: So I just said, I want to do something for 250.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm not going to do what Walter Isaacson
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  Speaker 4: does when he follows Steve Jobs or Elon Musk around
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  Speaker 4: for four years.
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  Speaker 2: I can't do that.
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  Speaker 4: John Meacham does a thorough biography on Andrew Jackson that
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  Speaker 4: spans as all as 81 years. I couldn't do that.
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  Speaker 4: So I said, they gave me this series on Fox Nation.
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  Speaker 4: I know you're familiar with Fox Nation. It's called What
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  Speaker 4: Made America Great. And I'm able to travel around the
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  Speaker 4: country for the past, probably seven years, and I've done
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  Speaker 4: 68 of them. And I go to these great moments
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  Speaker 4: in American history or see the great people in American history.
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  Speaker 2: And what it is, you know, you see.
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  Speaker 4: These historians, they bring you through this, you know, the officials,
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  Speaker 4: they're there, you know, the state police are historians and
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  Speaker 4: the park police, I should say.
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  Speaker 2: And they'll bring you through.
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  Speaker 4: I was at Teddy Roosevelt's house the other day. And
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  Speaker 4: I just thought, what if I talk about the moments
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  Speaker 4: that truly astounded me? That if they didn't take place,
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  Speaker 4: it didn't break the way they did, we wouldn't be
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  Speaker 4: the country we are. And that's what got me to
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  Speaker 4: the Boston Massacre, not because it led to the revolution,
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  Speaker 4: which it did, not because it was our first outstanding
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  Speaker 4: example of propaganda used for profiting to sell a cause,
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  Speaker 4: but the fact that John Adams represented the British soldiers
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  Speaker 4: who were basically acting like thugs.
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  Speaker 2: He said, I don't care.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone deserves the presumption of innocence and deserves an attorney.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to represent them.
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  Speaker 4: And I just thought that's beginning to show that America,
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  Speaker 4: whatever emerges, was going to be a nation of loss.
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  Speaker 4: And I thought him doing, you know, alienating himself in
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  Speaker 4: his practice by doing the unpopular thing was special, which
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  Speaker 4: led me to when Washington burned to the ground. and
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  Speaker 4: the War of 1812, it looked like our country was finished.
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  Speaker 4: We had a great thinker, but not a.
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  Speaker 2: Great leader in James Madison.
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  Speaker 4: We were able to rally back in a way that
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  Speaker 4: no one thought possible in the Battle of New Orleans,
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  Speaker 4: which I wrote about separately, which we won decisively, did
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  Speaker 4: what Napoleon couldn't, defeated Wellington's invincibles in under two hours.
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  Speaker 4: And this is a bunch of farmers and militia members,
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  Speaker 4: regular army, free men of color, and pirates, because they
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  Speaker 4: were there for the cause. George Washington changed the way
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  Speaker 4: he fights. Shays' rebellion led to the Constitution. And lastly,
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  Speaker 4: John Quincy Adams. He was the conscience of the country
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  Speaker 4: when he just demanded the South give up slaves. And
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  Speaker 4: the guy that learned from him how to put together
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  Speaker 4: an argument was Abraham Lincoln, who sat diagonally behind him
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  Speaker 4: when he was in Congress.
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  Speaker 1: So this is called Uniting the States. It's six crucial
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  Speaker 1: moments that forged the American miracle. I was going to
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  Speaker 1: ask you, you said you've been traveling for three years.
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  Speaker 1: Was the because you have a series on Fox Nation
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  Speaker 1: that is also going to be focused on uniting the states.
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  Speaker 1: Is that was that is that us watching you learn
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  Speaker 1: this at the same time or did you already know
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  Speaker 1: these would be the six?
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  Speaker 2: So I thought it would be. That's a great question.
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  Speaker 4: So I thought it'd be pretty boring for me to
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  Speaker 4: walk to all these spots and tell a talk.
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  Speaker 2: So what I did is I met the experts in
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  Speaker 2: their place. And that's separate from what makes America great.
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  Speaker 4: This is a 45-minute documentary that posted yesterday on the book.
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  Speaker 4: So you'll understand what the book's about. You can watch
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  Speaker 4: this 45 minutes, but you can actually see it. What
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  Speaker 4: people have told me is, I like watching it after
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  Speaker 4: because you picture where Daniel Shays and the rebellion took place.
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  Speaker 2: You picture, you know, you picture.
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  Speaker 4: Where John Quincy Adams died in the Capitol or where
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  Speaker 4: he lived.
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  Speaker 2: I went to both places.
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  Speaker 4: But what if I showed you exactly the couch he
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  Speaker 4: died on? What if I showed you the spot he
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  Speaker 4: sat on? And what if I showed you the house
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  Speaker 4: he lived in? So it kind of adds to it.
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  Speaker 4: you know, so that was my hope.
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  Speaker 2: But if people are in Russia on Fox station, you're
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  Speaker 2: going to get the story. I think you'll appreciate the
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  Speaker 2: country a little more.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting. I just got back from Israel and it
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  Speaker 1: was kind of that same exact thing for me where
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  Speaker 1: it was similar with the Bible. You know, you go
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  Speaker 1: there and you've read all these stories and then going
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  Speaker 1: and actually seeing it was like, it all comes together
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  Speaker 1: in a way that you can't imagine. And my kid's
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  Speaker 1: So my kids, every year, they go to D.C. in
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  Speaker 1: eighth grade, and we stop at Gettysburg on the way back.
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  Speaker 1: And the first year that I went with my oldest daughter,
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  Speaker 1: it was amazing to see how the boys connected when
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  Speaker 1: we got to Gettysburg. The entire trip to D.C., you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're kind of goofing around. We got to Gettysburg, and
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  Speaker 1: they were like, whoa. These were kids. Some of them
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  Speaker 1: were our age. They went out on the battlefield and
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  Speaker 1: they changed the world. Changed the world. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 1: what I think. You say you write this in a
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: way that anybody can read it because you're not an
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Ivy League guy. You don't want to alienate people. I
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: think that's fantastic because we need people to understand the
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: beginning to know where we are right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I went to Gettysburg. One of the features
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: was Gettysburg.
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  Speaker 4: And if we had lost that decisive battle, who knows
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: what kind of country it would be.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: It would probably be two countries. Do I think we'd
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: still have slaves in the South?
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  Speaker 1: No.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: But we definitely would have had the trajectory we had.
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  Speaker 4: And that was the decisive battle. And you could actually see,
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: imagine the courage it took to run in an open
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  Speaker 4: field with a standing army just waiting to shoot you
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: when you got close.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, and that was just a bloodbath. But the
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: courage it took to.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Make that run And then to sit there and hold
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: your fire, knowing that if they get to you first,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: you will be macheted to death.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, it would be, it was unbelievable.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: But you got to go there because it's exactly like
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: they wrote it. And you can see exactly where Lincoln stood,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: as you know.
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  Speaker 2: So it's really, really special.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: So when you do this, because you've written a lot
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: of books and a lot of, you've become, I know
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: you say you're not a historian, but I mean, at
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: a certain point, you start to become a historian. So
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: as you've written all these books and you've read all
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: of this history, relate this to today for us. Do
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: you see any of these qualities in leaders today? And
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: what are your predictions for people who will rise up
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: out of either party right now?
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Well, the one thing is pretty clear. We were always arguing.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Always arguing. Nobody ever agreed.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: This was a series of adjustments and crises. I mean,
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: I'm reading about the Louisiana Purchase. I only got, you know,
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: deal with the century. Great job, Thomas Jefferson. Who represented him?
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: James Monroe. James Monroe is all everything in history. He's
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: so underappreciated. So you see this and then you think, OK,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: he's going to come back with this great deal.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: But the Congress didn't want it.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Because they go, you're going to devalue my property.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: If you triple the size of the country, my property
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: is worth less.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: And then Hamilton's pushing against the passage of Jefferson, who
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: he just made this fantastic purchase. Now, does that mean
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: And does that mean Alexander Hamilton is dumb? Does it
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: mean Jefferson is smart? No, it means smart people disagree.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Throughout our history, all these times, these smart people that
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: we look up to are disagreeing, maneuvering around each other,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: consolidating power, shaping legislation. And we're just doing it now
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: on nine different media outlets. So, Tudor, you would hop on.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: If you were running for office again, you'd hop on
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: the 6 o'clock news. You'll be on the 11 o'clock news.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: And then you hope maybe be on a morning show.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: And then maybe you'll put out an ad. Best of luck.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Now, every minute, you got to get your phone.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: You got to go do a video, talk to the camera,
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: get up, describe your day, interact with people.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: It is a lot harder. But what it does, it
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: amplifies everything.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: So if Tudor Dixon, for example, Shane Gillis and what's
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: going on on Saturday Night Live and the terrible, you know,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: the monologue he put together, I'm not offended, but it
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: wasn't a funny monologue. That has been amplified so many
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: times just because of the social media.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: But it's such a big deal.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: If there was social media back then, it would have
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: been just as big a deal.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: But, you know, you write an angry letter, it gets published.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: It would take weeks. for anything to really get traction.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: But now everything is so accessible.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: It makes it seem like we're coming apart.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: It just said, we're just doing it quicker because everything's easier.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that is true. So, but what do
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: you think, what do you think is like when you
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: see the values of the founding fathers and in these
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: crucial moments, Where do you see those characteristics in some
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: of our politicians today? I mean, I do think because.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Not enough.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I know. That's what I fear. Like, are there any
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: rising stars? I mean, look at Michigan right now. We
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: have Mike Rogers and Abdul Al-Said running both for Senate.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: A very critical seat. I mean, I don't think people
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: realize how critical each seat in the Senate is. And
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: then you have really questionable things coming out of Al-Said's past.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: And I agree with you that we've always been fighting,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: but this is different stuff than what American values have
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: always been. So how did we, how are we steering
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: off course to socialism and these kinds of control, government control,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: like we are seeing in some of these candidates?
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: First, I have no idea. You got to explain to me,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: the people in Michigan, how this is even close.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I know, I know.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, so, I mean, Alyssa Slotkin, you know, she
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: ran as a moderate. CIA background. Okay. Barely, Mike Rogers,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: barely lost. He should be up by 10, up by 15.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: This guy's got no black support. They want nothing to
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: do with him.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: The Jewish community, if you listen to the words that
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: got him out of his mouth in the past, don't
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: listen to what's happening now.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: You know, he's just doing it to pander to you.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: How any person in Michigan, Jewish person in Michigan could
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: vote for him, I have no idea. So Mike Rogers,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: if he was a Democrat, I'd say you're the prototypical
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: politician because serving the military, serving the FBI, you become
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: a businessman, very successful, bought a yacht.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Good luck. Buy two. Maybe he has to. I don't know.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: And then he says, I'm going back to public service.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: So why? He doesn't need to do this.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: After he barely lost by a few thousand votes, he
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: decides to go back. So to me, that represents Michigan.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: I don't think Michigan needs a firebrand conservative. I don't
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: think they need a firebrand liberal. But if you vote
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: for this guy, he's going to wreak havoc in the Senate.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: But we have these people who. OK, so I believe
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: that the Democrat Party has aligned with the DSA because
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the DSA is very good with the ground game. They
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: and the Democrats have said, you know what, we just
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: want to win. And they've convinced their people. I mean,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: to your point, why would Democrats come out for Al-Said
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: in Michigan? They've convinced their voters. We just have to
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: win no matter what. Doesn't matter who's on the ticket.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: As long as there's a D by their name, that's
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: who you vote for. They've been co-opted by socialists and
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: they're allowing it to happen. I mean, really, none of
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: them are standing up. I saw Kamala Harris come out,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: which obviously this means she's looking at running again and
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: saying she wishes they had gone harder against Israel.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: What? Yep. Yeah, I mean, Brett McGurk has a book
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: out and he talks about that, that.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: She did want to go, she wanted to give them
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: less arms, wanted to limit their fighting ability. A lot
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: of people in the Biden administration wanted to do that.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: It's absolutely insane. This is why I look at her.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: If she cared about her future, she would have ran
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: for governor. And then if she was actually a skilled politician,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: she would have won in a walk, by the way.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Beshear is a tragic figure. He's absolutely awful. she would
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: have wanted to walk. And if she did a good
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: job replacing Gavin Newsom, it wouldn't have been tough because
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: he really did nothing productive, did all things ideological. She
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: might have been in a perfect spot for 28 or
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: certainly 32, but she needed to get better.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: And if someone was honest with her in her life,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: she would say, listen, run for governor. You need to
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: get more experience. You need leadership.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: You need to be able to rally people. You need
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: to build a bigger donor base. But she does not
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: want to work. She inherently seems to be a lazy person.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: She wants to be the king and queen of England.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: She doesn't want to be a workhorse. So that's why.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: DeSantis is just the opposite. DeSantis, all he wants to
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: do is work. He could use a little bit more charm.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: But she thinks she's going to get by in life
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: and charm. She's going to do it and let a
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: lieutenant governor run the state.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: She didn't want to do that.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: She just wants to go for the ring where she
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: can be anointed and have all this first this, first that,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: first this. And the chief of staff and everybody else
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: would be doing things. And we'll find out our ideology
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: is way, way left.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of these governors are still like that.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Gretchen Whitmer, even the media here has said, boy, once
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: she got reelected, she never did anything for the state again.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: She just kind of disappeared. They want the title. They
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: don't want to do the job. I fear that's what
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: she would, Kamala Harris would be as president, wanting the title,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: not wanting to do the job. She wouldn't even know
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: how to do the job, to your point. But I
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: do think that we are... I don't know how we
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: got here. I'll just end it on this. We have
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: a really serious problem where we have a half of
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the country that has demonized one of our greatest allies,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and that is Israel in the Middle East. And it
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: is critical that we have a relationship there. And I
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: don't know how we got here. But what is the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: future if we don't have a relationship with Israel?
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Well, the Democrats aren't going to have it. And Israel
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: says we're going to have to manufacture our own weapons.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: They're already making other alliances with Greece and Cyprus. They're
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: trying to find other allies with India. Because not me,
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: I'm all in. I couldn't be more impressed with Israel
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: as a country, what they've been able to do ever
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: since October 7th.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: But I think they got to be prepared to manufacture
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: their own weapons.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Because I read Brett McGurk's book, and he was chronicling
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: how curtailed the weapons shipments was, how delayed they was.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Here you have an American president trying to really conduct
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: a war in Israel with his power, since he had
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: so many weapon systems that they needed. And David Sling
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: needed to be reloaded, as did all their missile defense apparatus. So...
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: I just think that if you are an Israeli, you
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: got to be prepared to go it alone. And I
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: think they get it. And not if I was president,
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: not if you were president, but what's next?
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think J.D.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Vance is a Israel fan. He doesn't sound like it.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Sounds like an apologist. He sounds like somebody who is
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: gritting his teeth saying positive things.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: But Marco Rubio is.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. I think it's going to be
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: a very interesting 27. As soon as 27 hits, you know,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: we're going to start seeing who's going to emerge on
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: both sides. I think it'll be a very interesting 28
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: for us, for sure. But in the meantime, you should
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: know your history. So go out and get Uniting the States,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Six Crucial Moments That Forged the American Miracle. So, Brian,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: it's anywhere you get your books, right?
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: And you go to BrianKilme.com. I'll go to my local
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: bookstore if they want it personalized.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Then they'll mail it out. Oh, awesome. Okay.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: So go to briankilledme.com. There you go. There you have it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Brian. Thank you for your time today.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Go get them, too. See you soon.
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