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Patriots Unfiltered 6/8: Looking Ahead to Next Week's Mini Camp · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 3: There, I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, Uh, tomorrow will be an ota that we
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  Speaker 2: have access to, and Catch twenty two will catch you
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  Speaker 2: up on that right after practice, So look forward to
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  Speaker 2: that tomorrow. But right now, we're still talking about what
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  Speaker 2: we saw on Tuesday and anything else else that's going
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  Speaker 2: on out there.
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  Speaker 4: I think that we'll maybe pick up the Hopkins talk
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  Speaker 4: because it's now officially going to visit the Titans to Hopkins,
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  Speaker 4: so we had a lot of talk about him starting
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  Speaker 4: to take some visits. Now I would say probably the
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  Speaker 4: Titans maybe need him a little more than the Patriots.
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  Speaker 4: I think I saw a stat that Mike Rabel has
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  Speaker 4: more career catches.
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  Speaker 3: Than any receivers on the roster right now, which is
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  Speaker 3: pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: So we'll see I think that's not until next week though,
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  Speaker 4: Is that is that? I think it was next Tuesday.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like he's going to go on a
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  Speaker 5: whole free agency tour.
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  Speaker 3: Oh what would possess you to sign with anybody while
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  Speaker 3: these voluntary things are going on?
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  Speaker 5: Well that that was definitely talked about as well in
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  Speaker 5: one of the reports, and maybe rap sheet or someone
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  Speaker 5: said he's not in any real hurry to get into
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  Speaker 5: mandatory mini camp.
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  Speaker 3: Can't blame him. This guy hasn't practice during the regular seas.
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  Speaker 2: So what if it comes down to the Patriots and
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  Speaker 2: the Titans, and the Patriots get him, does Rabel not show.
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  Speaker 6: Up for.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see. I mean I again, I do think that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean the Titans really they really do need them.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I know, you know, jokes aside, they have
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  Speaker 4: Mac or Tannehill slash Will Levis.
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  Speaker 3: I might pick here.
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  Speaker 2: Yes that's just.
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  Speaker 3: Me though, but I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: But why is that? I don't because you hate the
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  Speaker 2: Patriot Because I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't think Mac is as good as Tannehill. I thought
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  Speaker 3: that was kind of self evidence.
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  Speaker 5: I think Mac is worse than Tannahill.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't think I didn't think that was a code. No,
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  Speaker 3: I mean I would go to Tennessee for the first reason,
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  Speaker 3: Mike said, because the Titans don't really have anybody. I
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  Speaker 3: mean Jalen Burks, that's about it, right.
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  Speaker 2: But why they still would.
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  Speaker 3: So he could get all the time.
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  Speaker 7: I know.
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  Speaker 2: But they're not going to be good.
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  Speaker 3: Oh well they have doesn't you want to ring Paul? Now,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that. Now I'm gonna remove myself from
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  Speaker 3: the summer stuff.
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  Speaker 2: No, But but honestly, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Think the Patriots are gonna be good either.
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  Speaker 2: No, but who's going to be better the Titans of
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a coin flip.
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  Speaker 5: I don't go Patriots Patriots. So yeah, that Titans quarterback situation.
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  Speaker 5: Say what you will about the Patriots quarterback situation, but.
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  Speaker 3: They got to figure it out. Yeah, because I mean,
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  Speaker 3: obviously Tannehill's on the back nine at best.
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  Speaker 4: But if Will Levis is, you know, they go to
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  Speaker 4: him early and maybe he shows something. Derek Henry stays
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  Speaker 4: healthy and you know, gets rejuvenated a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: They're definitely in a rebuilding phase. They stripped it down.
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee's not going to be very good. Yeah, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Think what do you think I have has your percentage
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  Speaker 2: has gone up of him coming here, Hopkins.
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  Speaker 4: I still feel like it could happen. I really do.
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  Speaker 4: I just I mean, I think Evan Blade it out
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  Speaker 4: well of just like he's a depreciated asset now, like
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  Speaker 4: he's just he's right in their wheelhouse of you know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, maybe they're going to have to get into
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of a bidding war with some of
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  Speaker 4: these teams that that. But I don't think that you're
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  Speaker 4: talking about huge money and and I think, like Paul
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  Speaker 4: said on the show on Tuesday, that when he does
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  Speaker 4: sign somewhere, if he does some sign somewhere else there,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like it's inevitable that the money's gonna be.
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  Speaker 4: We couldn't have done that like that. That's that's what
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  Speaker 4: the deal's going to be. So so why not why
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  Speaker 4: not go for him right now and you know, bring
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  Speaker 4: him in and you know, don't you don't have to
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  Speaker 4: cut DeVante Parker the next day. You can let everybody
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  Speaker 4: kind of come in and wait maybe if you want to,
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  Speaker 4: or maybe wait till camp and see how it all
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  Speaker 4: comes together. But I still think it could happen.
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  Speaker 3: I totally agree with you. I think there's I liked
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  Speaker 3: Evans phrase with that depressed asset thing because I think
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  Speaker 3: that is Bill's willhouse. I think that's absolutely accurate, and
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a chance. I just I think I
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  Speaker 3: said this Tuesday. I don't think if we're looking at
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  Speaker 3: it after Hopkins signed somewhere, I don't think people are
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  Speaker 3: going to be saying, well, you know what, that was
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  Speaker 3: too much money. I wouldn't have done it either. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think very many people will say that because I
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  Speaker 3: don't think it's going to be one of these, you know,
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  Speaker 3: twenty million dollar contracts, Like what have they given DeAndre
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  Speaker 3: Hopkins did this? I don't think that's going to happen, right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I think that there's also this narrative out there
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  Speaker 5: that he's ring chasing at this point with like an
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  Speaker 5: elite quarterback, and he's never said that. He's went on
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  Speaker 5: the im Athlete podcast a few weeks ago and he
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  Speaker 5: said he has three prerequisites to what he wants. He
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  Speaker 5: wants a stable organization. He wants a team with a
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  Speaker 5: good defense because he feels like teams with good defenses
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  Speaker 5: are competitive. He said defense wins championships. And he wants
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  Speaker 5: a quarterback who loves ball, not not an elite quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: He actually said it doesn't need to be an elite
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  Speaker 5: quarterback because I've done it without elite quarterbacks. I just
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  Speaker 5: need somebody that really loves football as much as I do.
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  Speaker 5: And those are the three things that he said. And
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  Speaker 5: he's coming to the Patriots, and it does kind of
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  Speaker 5: check a lot of boxes.
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  Speaker 4: Right, say what you will about Mac, but football.
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  Speaker 5: He loves football. They you know, they have Belichick here,
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  Speaker 5: so obviously you think their organization is pretty stable. They
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  Speaker 5: do have a good defense, and so that's why when
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  Speaker 5: a lot of this Titans visit came out, people are like, well,
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  Speaker 5: doesn't he isn't he going to contender? Like, isn't he
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  Speaker 5: going to play with Patrick Mahomes. He He's never actually
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  Speaker 5: said that that's what he's one hundred percent looking for.
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  Speaker 5: So I think that's important to mention because I've seen
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  Speaker 5: that out there.
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  Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: go where whoever get in the most money.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think that's what it'll come down to, is
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  Speaker 3: if he doesn't have a chance to go to a contender,
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  Speaker 3: it's going to be the most money, right I could,
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  Speaker 3: I don't I agree with you, Fred, they almost always
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  Speaker 3: take the most money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I.
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  Speaker 3: Could see a scenario where he says, I'll take a
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  Speaker 3: few million less to sign with Patrick Mahomes and have
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  Speaker 3: a chance to win. Then I will with Mike Rabel
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  Speaker 3: and not really have a chance to win. I could
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  Speaker 3: see that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I did. I should say too. I saw a
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  Speaker 4: report I forget who said it exactly, but said that
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  Speaker 4: that Cleveland seemed kind of unlikely right now. So that
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  Speaker 4: was the one team I got America Tuesday that you know,
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  Speaker 4: might might have been in the running. And now all
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  Speaker 4: of a sudden, here comes Tennessee. So we'll see where
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  Speaker 4: else he goes.
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  Speaker 2: And what ends up.
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  Speaker 3: I took the third part of Evans thing with that
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  Speaker 3: podcast to be just a complete rocket shot at Kyler Murray.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was just writing.
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  Speaker 3: That's all I was thinking. I wasn't really thinking about
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  Speaker 3: any of the other thirty one quarterbacks. I thought that
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  Speaker 3: was a not so veiled shot to say because the
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  Speaker 3: guy I just got finished playing for it doesn't care
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  Speaker 3: about football.
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  Speaker 4: Vote yeah like Madden.
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  Speaker 5: He also, I mean he did list like he was
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  Speaker 5: asked on the same podcast, what quarterbacks would you want
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  Speaker 5: to play? With and he did list like all the
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  Speaker 5: best quarterbacks in the league. But what was he supposed
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  Speaker 5: to say, Oh, I know, yeah, I'm gonna go play
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  Speaker 5: with will Levis, Right, it'd be a lot of fun,
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  Speaker 5: like you know.
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  Speaker 4: Like Wilson back in all than the Jets, right right.
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  Speaker 5: But he's a I don't think that he's one of
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  Speaker 5: those people that necessarily feels like, oh, I need a
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  Speaker 5: ring before I retire. It doesn't seem like that all
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  Speaker 5: the time.
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  Speaker 3: Really think fans would be really surprised with how little
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  Speaker 3: that factors in all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, over under sixty percent chance he comes to New England.
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  Speaker 5: Over over, I'm under sixty under sixty under sixty one.
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  Speaker 5: I'd put it at thirty seven and a half percent.
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  Speaker 3: Push push, I mean there is thirty one teams like
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  Speaker 3: I don't say sixty percent for the Patriots.
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  Speaker 5: That's I like to use. His confidence seems high. The
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  Speaker 5: streets are whispering, they're talking.
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  Speaker 3: And he knows that. I mean, he's got his zeror nowhere,
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  Speaker 3: so Belichick my head Belichick's office, he.
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  Speaker 5: Can I texted Deuced yesterday. I was like, the streets
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  Speaker 5: are talking a little bit about.
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  Speaker 4: This little buzz, little buzz Evans on tax the blogs.
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  Speaker 3: You see him at the Hurts counter. Boys, there's what
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  Speaker 3: it would almost work.
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  Speaker 2: It was almost the Patriots Region blog or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: This is what it is, your boys, your people people.
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  Speaker 3: How long they're still my people here? Now I'm here.
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  Speaker 2: Once a blogger, always more, were always in the club. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Fair enough, fair enough, fair enough. But none of those
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  Speaker 4: people I heard.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't know. I just have this. I just
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm gonna have to be nice with
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  Speaker 3: those people. I have a feeling my son's going to
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  Speaker 3: become one of them in about three years.
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  Speaker 2: Are you going to be penning it?
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  Speaker 8: No?
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  Speaker 2: Under his name?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, just a little chatter, that's all all right?
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  Speaker 2: What else? What else do we got?
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  Speaker 5: Dalvin Cook?
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  Speaker 2: Alvin Cook Hook?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of weird.
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  Speaker 4: Know why why pay what?
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  Speaker 5: Running running back money?
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  Speaker 4: What he wants a new contract? Is this the last
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  Speaker 4: year of a steal?
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  Speaker 3: I believe that was the case. He was looking for more.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know they're tight against the cap, but
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't make any sense to me for a team
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  Speaker 3: that has aspirations. Yeah, and to me, the NFC is
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  Speaker 3: wide open, right Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: And I saw they were just gonna flip it to
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  Speaker 4: Alexander Matson. I guess who's gonna just take over for him?
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  Speaker 4: But running backs, I don't don't. I don't see really
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  Speaker 4: any need for him here.
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  Speaker 2: Hatred Social released another clip of Christian Gonzales one handed catch.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I was I was going to bring up
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  Speaker 4: the Key on White one from last week where he
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  Speaker 4: just like destroyed a blocking machine.
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  Speaker 3: Too, Like when I was like, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: the Gonzales one, I could at least see, like, Wow,
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  Speaker 3: he's a really big guy who is so fluid, like
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  Speaker 3: his athleticism shines through. We all agree a little too
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  Speaker 3: much was made up the clip, but at least you
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  Speaker 3: could see, wow, this is six or three guy that
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  Speaker 3: really moves well. The Key on White one he hit
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  Speaker 3: a blocking sled and people lost their mind. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to be that blocking set. He looked
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  Speaker 3: pretty mad.
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  Speaker 4: I know, I know you're making the most of what
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  Speaker 4: you can right now, but I'm really intrigued by Key
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  Speaker 4: on White now. I mean, I just, I mean, have
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  Speaker 4: we really even seen him hand down in the dirt
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  Speaker 4: like kind of working through the d line.
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  Speaker 2: I all, I've really seed.
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  Speaker 4: Him do his play outside linebacker right now. So I
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  Speaker 4: just I really wonder if that's the design on him.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to say outside linebacker.
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  Speaker 4: I know that's what and that's why I'm like, I'm
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  Speaker 4: looking at like high tower, you know, like I just
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  Speaker 4: like that that's the closest kind of like body type.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm very high in this front seven, very
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  Speaker 2: high in this front seven.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't ve too much into I think that that
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  Speaker 3: we talked about it, Fred, I think you do the
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  Speaker 3: thing that if they don't know how to do first, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: to see if that's part of you know, to use
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  Speaker 3: Evans in this bag, I totally get it.
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  Speaker 4: But I just it's something I'm going to be watching
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  Speaker 4: every practice next week. Is just you know, do they
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  Speaker 4: even at all, like I mean, even because I think
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  Speaker 4: we all assume that on passing downs till till he'll
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  Speaker 4: be hand down somewhere in the ground probably, you know,
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  Speaker 4: But I just I look at what they have Anthony Jennings,
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  Speaker 4: you know, probably their best after Jude on outside linebacker,
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  Speaker 4: run stopper kind of guy, and.
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  Speaker 3: There's just not a lot of depth there.
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  Speaker 4: So I could just I could see the opportunity for him.
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  Speaker 4: We all thought that get right out there and yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean definitely allow judea On to maybe tee
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  Speaker 5: off on the backside and not have to worry about
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  Speaker 5: holding the point of attack and playing the tight end
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  Speaker 5: side of the strong side of the formation. If you
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  Speaker 5: have another guy that's heavy handed that can play that
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  Speaker 5: side and allow jude On to kind of play that
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  Speaker 5: designated pass rusher on the backside, and then you bring
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  Speaker 5: Ooja in on third down like that, that could be
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  Speaker 5: the formula for them moving forward. Can we talk a
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  Speaker 5: little bit about the the rookie receivers, because I don't
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  Speaker 5: want to like get too much on the rookie receivers
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  Speaker 5: last names. I've been a little disappointed. I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 5: We've only seen two practices. I'm not trying to overreact
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  Speaker 5: or anything. But we get this question probably more than
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  Speaker 5: any other question, like into the mail bag and things
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  Speaker 5: like that, like give us, give us Booty updates, give
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  Speaker 5: us to Douglas updates. Booty in particular, have been a
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  Speaker 5: little underwhelmed, a little bit underwhelmed.
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  Speaker 4: I have two I think one thing positive that stood
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  Speaker 4: out to me, and this was last week. I was
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  Speaker 4: standing out in front of the radio studio and he
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  Speaker 4: walked by and it was the first time, like we
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  Speaker 4: talked about getting a glimpse of body types. Son, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that was one thing that I was like, he's got
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  Speaker 4: a little more thickness to him, Like he doesn't just
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  Speaker 4: just on the hoof. Doesn't look like that guy's a
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  Speaker 4: slot receiver, like he just he's got a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of thickness to him. But I agree with your point.
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  Speaker 4: I mean they had an opportunity last practice without all
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  Speaker 4: those receivers there. Max still went to the tight ends
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  Speaker 4: I think most of the time.
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  Speaker 5: So it just I don't think either one of those
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  Speaker 5: guys and Will and I'm really looking at him next week,
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  Speaker 5: right I think that's really the big week for them.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think either one of those guys have done
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  Speaker 5: anything to make a roster push yet, and I think
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  Speaker 5: it's really early and they're, like Bill said, they're drinking
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  Speaker 5: through a fire hose right now, especially at that position.
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  Speaker 5: But Douglass maybe that first OTA practice he caught some
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  Speaker 5: passes like underneath the defense out of the slot, just
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  Speaker 5: little dump offs and things like that. But Booty's really
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  Speaker 5: done nothing. And then he got chewed out by the
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  Speaker 5: coaches for being in the wrong spot the other day.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm hoping to see a little bit more out
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  Speaker 5: of those two guys, because you do, you got to
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  Speaker 5: see something tangible to put them on the roster. You
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  Speaker 5: g're not gonna just throw them on the on the
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  Speaker 5: roster just because of they were drafted and their receivers,
• 13:55
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, So, like I said, tomorrow will have
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: full access OTA, uh and then Monday, Tuesday and perhaps
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: Wednesday if they keep it full access mandatory mini camp.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: So that'll be interesting. Everybody has to be there unless
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: you're injured.
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: And we will do fred Pu shows throughout the mini camp.
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: That's right. Tuesday, Wednesday will have live mini camp radio shows.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we don't have the time of the practice yet. No,
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: do you think they'll keep it eleven thirty.
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: I think they'll keep nine thirty to eleven thirty and
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: we'll probably be but they haven't been nine thirty. No.
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: Usually mini camp is is this time like where we
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: have the OTA practices, like eleven okay one.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: You think, oh, you think it'll be eleven to one eleven.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: So we have differing opinions.
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: I think. So that's what it was last year, right.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: I thought it was nine thirty, No idea.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: I didn't remember that. We did radio shows last year.
• 14:48
  Speaker 9: I swear to god, I thought it was I thought,
• 14:50
  Speaker 9: I usually I don't know Vigen for you, you're CTE previagon,
• 14:57
  Speaker 9: so we don't know what time, but whatever.
• 14:58
  Speaker 6: That things about that, Yeah, as soon as we know
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: the time of the practice, we'll get it out there,
• 15:05
  Speaker 6: because that's when we'll start our show about fifteen minutes
• 15:08
  Speaker 6: before practice and go through practice.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: We'll be on the side of the stadium.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: We'll be up in the ring.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where you guys insisted that you wanted to be,
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: making sure I was voted on that.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Why where do you want to be, Paul?
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: I thought if we could go down like where we
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: used to do it in the bleachers. Yeah, well, the
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: people themselves aren't there right now, but we could set
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: something up on that hill. But everybody else wanted to
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: be up top, So the top it is.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I like being up there. It's a good view. You
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: can speak freely without other media people hearing you. That's
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: a very good point. Yeah, they won't steal your takes, right,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: and they.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Have to go back and listen to the podcast and
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: then they steal.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: It right right, you know, so they can grouse and
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: we don't have to hear them.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: I just have a hard time to seeing from their
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Grandpa can't see that. Why binoculars, I know, I got
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: to buy something that kind of money.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: I got two pairs of bump binoculars in my house
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: like that have both been dropped. And I'm like, do
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: you have fixed binoculars? Do you just buy new binoculars?
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: Like I would just go down the bass pro I would.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: I might go over there to that buy some bush Nelson.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Well that's what I had until I until that Miami
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: game last year. I dropped them off in the press
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: box off the colledge and we were so.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Excited that we finally beat Miami.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: So we did it, and Paul's like, to it didn't play,
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Shut up, Paul. It wasn't a jerk. Thompson and then
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Teddy Bridgewater right like, get hurt. We'll get them. We'll
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: get them one of these days.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: We'll get them one of these days.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: All right? Eight five five pass five hundred is the
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: ACE ticket hotline web radio at Patriots dot com is
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: the email address. I do want to mention. I was
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: asked to mention UH June ninth, which is tomorrow, right,
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: that represents uh six months out for the Army Navy
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: game Saturday, which is actually going to be played here
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: at Gillette Stadium this year. It's the first time ever
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: in New England that it's been played in. It's the
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: only Chicago in nineteen thirty six in Pasadena in nineteen
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: eighty three has a game been played outside the mid
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Atlantic States. So this is kind of a big thing
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: to have Army Navy in New England, you know. So
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: it's the one hundred and twenty fourth game in the series
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: started in eighteen ninety. I'm looking at my notes here.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: The teams have met annually all but five years since then,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: and in every season since nineteen thirty. So really cool.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: So, Fred, you make fun of me a lot for
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: being like the jaded old guy that done all these
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: things and you don't get excited about anything anymore. Right, Yeah,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: that's is that accurate? Like, you know, we have OTA
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: on Friday, and I'm like, yeah, these OTAs are the
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Army Navy game. I'm jacked up, jacked up for that,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: I am. I think that like the pageantry that goes
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: to now it's The ironic part of it is I
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: can't stand watching that style of football. They're both, they're both,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: they're both gonna play. Sorry, it's an all smash mouth
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: like you know, triple option football, back and forth of
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: each other, and that's not really what I want to watch.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: But for whatever reason it it doesn't offend me watching
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: them play. Just how hard both teams go after each other.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: It means so much to both both institutions. And like
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: I said, the pageantry that's in the stands, I can't wait.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do everything in my power to be here
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: that day. I know both of my kids want to
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: be here that day. I think that's a really cool
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: event that we're bringing here.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm sure, Like if you're listening and you're,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: you know, within airshot of Foxborough, the question is, you know,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: can I get tickets? In the answers, No, Unfortunately it's
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: sold out. Army Navy sold out their tickets the earliest
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: they've sold out, and they say that this first game
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: in New England has created three times the normal ticket demand.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: So yeah, but the but there'll be a lot of
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: cool things going on if you want to kind of
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: get the flavor of Patriots Place. We'll have a whole
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: bunch of stuff going on, you know, leading up to
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: the game.
• 19:14
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: There'll be merchandise in the you can go to New
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: England Army Navy Game Store dot com New England Army
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Navy Game Store dot com and there's a whole bunch
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: of Army Navy uh merchandise, you know, specific to the
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: game being here. There's gonna be a fan festival Thursday
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: and Friday before the game. You don't have to have tickets,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: just come. You know. There's gonna be all kinds of
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: stuff going on uh in Boston by the US Constitution
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: and Bunker Hill. They'll be like Patriots Games presented by
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: us A A. Uh so the Cadets and the Midshipman
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: like competing all this off field stuff. There's gonna be
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: a PEP rally at Fanuel Hall on December ninth, that Friday.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: H So there's a whole bunch of stuff going on.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: So even if you can't go to the game, you
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: can kind of get into the excitement and then go
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: home and watch it on TV.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: I was just gonna highlight I wasn't aware of this.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: On Saturday, they have the march on, which they say
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: is one of the greatest traditions in college sports. Is
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: not aware of the brigade of midshipman in the Court
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: of Cadets march onto the field in formation that takes
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: place at noon on Saturday. I mean, that must be
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: something pretty cool to see, to see those guys, you know,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: all it wants coming in.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: So lots going on.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: So they're saying for more information, you can go to
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Gelletts Stadium dot com slash Army Navy and they'll have
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: all this info on it. So if you're you know,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I didn't expect you to take notes, but Gelettstadium dot
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: com slash Army Navy and you can get all the
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: stuff that I just talked about. Due's talked about.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Do you think Bill's gonna be screwing with the army
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: guys a little bit like Gatorade war and Gateorade that
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: kind of stuff with the armies.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be. Yeah.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: I mean he's got to be part of the pregame, right,
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, I.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Might imagine him and car don't know, they're probably.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Maybe And that weekend the Patriots play on the Thursday night, Uh,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: that NFL week So they'll play on Thursday. Nancy have
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: a couple of days you know on wine from that Saturday.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Doesn't see on Sunday. No, No, something tells me that
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: wasn't by.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's you know, never before in New England
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: the Army Navy game, because it's you know, it's not
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: just the game. You know, you're bringing up all the midshipment,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: all the cadets. You've got to transport them up here.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: And so it's understandable why they kind of stayed close
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: to you know, Annapolis and you know, uh, West West Point.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: It's usually in Philly.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Philly and Baltimore a lot. But yeah, I mean
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: it's not that much different in DC.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: A couple of years ago when the Patriots are playing
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: there like afterwards or something.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Like they play in D in the last.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: I maybe like the Veeper or even Biden themselves might.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Come, I don't know, but usually they don't announce that
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: until the day of, so that, you know, crazy people
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: can't plan, you know, crazy things.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just see the what is the Air Force too?
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Come come fight in with with the craft heils out there.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we got a helicopter pad.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Don't worry, right, come right, in so that that's cool.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: So happy to announce, you know, give some information about that.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Very cool. All right, So back to uh, Patriots football
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: what we got, But we should mention like this haze
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: that's going around, like it's finally starting to hit here.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I was wondering why New York was getting hit before
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: us because we're north of New York. But I guess
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: the way it went went south. Yeah, it went south
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: and then it's coming back up.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: I think it's supposed to clear up tomorrow a little bit.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: My son's in Washington right now. It's terrible there today.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: The pictures from New York yesterday were crazy. But I
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: saw some of the teams, Philadelphia being one, moved there
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: practice inside because of it, I mean for good reason.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I mean it looks terrible.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I mean I think it's what was the word that
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: they were, I mean, it's, you know, like hazardous.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: And there were a lot of definition professional games in
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: different and various sports that were canceled. I thought it
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: was odd that some indoor games were canceled.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't they have filters on their air conditioning and all?
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: That's the w NBA game. I think there was supposed
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: to be played in New York was canceled. I mean
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: obviously the I think the Yankees and Mets both were out.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I think the.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: Nationals today the National.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Fit and I think the Phillies may have been blame.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Canada Flame Freddy Freddy at the media yesterday.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: The first thing I thought it was a catchy jingle,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's Canada's fault.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's going on.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: It was like California, we had them there. I mean
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: that was it was actually like, I mean, not consistent,
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: but you know, from time to time, it's definitely happens
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: out there in LA. Remember smelling, I mean that was
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: like smoking the air. Yeah, I remember smoke, not just
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: like dirty air.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: The one time that we had one that was really bad.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: When I was out there, we were only a couple
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: of miles from the evacuation line. So my my parents
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: and me, I we were like calling relatives that were
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: like not in like you know, downtown on an LA
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: area that maybe I could go stay with for like
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: a couple of days. And uh, you could just see
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: the sky was like the it was the color of fire,
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: like the whole sky just like lights up like an
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: orange like pink was.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: That one, like the side of the four five right
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: near the Getty went up.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's just it's the sky is the craziest
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: part to me. It's just it looks like you're you're
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: in a you know, inferno. You know it's it's.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: New York's crazy yesterday look post apocalyptic film.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody did a really good job. You could see
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: the Chrysler building in the foreground or the Empire in
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: the foreground, the Chrysler in the background, and next to
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: it is Godzilla and because of the haze like it
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: it would it just right. Yeah, it just looked perfect scary.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: I hope they get get that all out of out
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: of here and out over the ocean and process so
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: we can have our clean air again.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: It's a big fan, Yeah, big fan.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Do we have that?
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Does any have one of those? Is there any anything
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: or you can do? Can we call him the weather machine?
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Does that smoke? All?
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 24:59
  Speaker 10: Eight?
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Five five, that's five hundred is the A's ticket Hotline.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the phone see what people are thinking
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: about Patty's inn ago on what's up Patty? Patty?
• 25:12
  Speaker 11: So I may be in the minority here, but I
• 25:17
  Speaker 11: I think I made it pretty clear before, like you know,
• 25:20
  Speaker 11: early on in the off season that maybe it's the
• 25:23
  Speaker 11: age about DeAndre Hopkins or the fact that he lost that.
• 25:27
  Speaker 11: You know, everyone's saying they might have lost this step.
• 25:29
  Speaker 11: But I mean, do we really want to like invest
• 25:33
  Speaker 11: at least like two years into this guy if he
• 25:35
  Speaker 11: might be toast? I'm just looking at it kind of
• 25:38
  Speaker 11: from a perspective where I was a few years ago
• 25:40
  Speaker 11: with Julio Jones, Like I know that a lot of
• 25:44
  Speaker 11: Patriots fans wanted to see Julio Jones come to Fox, Bro,
• 25:47
  Speaker 11: but I think I was in the minority then that maybe.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: The guys, well, well that's the thing that you know, Okay,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: so let's qualify, you know, the stage of his career.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I think he's far from toast. Is he in his prime?
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: No?
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Is? Would he be probably one of the best receivers
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: in this team right away? Yes? So is it worth paying, like,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: look it up, is it worth paying like fifteen sixteen
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: million dollars this year to have a better receiver than
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: what you currently have? I think it is. I think
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: It's a risker word thing, like it might blow up
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: in your face. It might be a bad contractor might
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: be a bad move, but the upside.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: If it doesn't work back to where you were, You're
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: not giving up anything to accept money. You're not giving
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: up any assets to get him, So why not?
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: So that was two years ago, right for Julio Jones.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: It was heading into the twenty one season, so his
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: last year in Atlanta, he caught fifty one passes for
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: seven hundred and seventy one yards and three touchdowns.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Literally the same production.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: So it's a very similar year that that happen, and
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: he missed time because he always misses time, Julio Jones.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: And then he dropped down to thirty one catches before
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: thirty four, and then he dropped to twenty four for
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: two ninety nine last year in Tampa. So, cousin, Patty's
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: not The comparison is not terrible, right, They're both great,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: great receivers, right, No one would say anything bad about
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Julio Jones and.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Is more down the field than Hopkins.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, yeah, Julio was a specimen like explosive specimen.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I think Julio was better than Oh in his prime.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I agree, But I think they're both extremely physical, big
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: and durable receivers that have been highly productive throughout their career.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: And I'm just looking now, Evan, he played in nine
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: games last his last year in Atlanta, he played in
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: nine games. So it's literally the same, literally the same.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I don't think Patty's way off. Now, that doesn't mean
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: that they're both going to do the same thing. You know.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: That's what happened to Julio Jones, right, jo Jones was older.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: I think looks like he's been How many years is
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Hopkins played this is?
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Uh? Oh man eleven or twelve? Yeah, I want to
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: say eleven?
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how old is he?
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: Thirty one?
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: Oh?
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: God? Yeah, bingo, same beings, thanks, Patty.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: I just think it's worth the risk. Hey, whether it were.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Jones Jones was thirty one that year in Atlanta that
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: he caught the same amount, you know, basically had the
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: same production as Hopkins.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: I was just wonder if you know, Julio Jones more athletic,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: more to fall down from, whereas Hopkins has kind of
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: gotten by not being the fastest guy. And I mean
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: at least he has some kind of concept of I'm
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: just faster and bigger than everybody, And you know, when
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: that starts to go with a guy like you know
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Jones like then it's more difficult, it's a more precipitous
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: decline than you know, hopefully.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, Hawkins can happen.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: To compare, would you you know, I'm not saying they're
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: exactly the same, but would you compare ju Julio Jones
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: more to Calvin Johnson and Hopkins more to an Kwon Bolden.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: A little bit? I think so A little bit not crazy.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think Bolden was a little bigger and
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: you know, a little more physical than then. But but
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: I think generally kind of the roles probably.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Say, yeah, I look at things a little different the
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: way that Mike just explained it. I think the guy
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: who's really athletic and then slows down, if he has
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: those other kinds of traits, can find ways to continue
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: to be productive Larry Fitzgerald. Which is when Ankwon Bolden did.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: An Kwon Bolden was ridiculously athletic when he entered the league.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: He didn't run a blazing fast forty time. He never did,
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: but he I think his first game in the NFL
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: he had like over two hundred yards receiving his very
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: first game, but then he lost a step but had
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: other things to fall back on.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: He was a good route runner, and he used his
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: body well.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: I think sometimes when you don't enter with that high
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: end athleticism and then you lose a step. I don't
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: care how much savvy you have, it's hard to fall
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: back on something because now you just you don't separate.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Now I would, I would still, I would make this move.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: I'm with these these guys on Hopkins. I'm not gonna
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: sit there and tell you what changes my overall opinion
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: of where the team can go or anything like that.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: But I think he's better. I think you guys said
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: it very simply on Tuesday. He would be the best
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: receiver you have. And for that reason, I'm in. Yeah,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Like I'm all for trying to make my team better.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I think he would make the team better.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: I just don't. I just also just not to pick
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: on Patty, but like, like the money just doesn't. I
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: don't care money than I It's it's the money and
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: the salary cap. Like if the contract ends up blowing
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: up in their face and they have to eat the money,
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: then they'll figure out the way to work around the
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: salary cap. So it just to me, it's just a
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: boomer bust signing and that's it.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Paul, you touched on it, and this was
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: that was something that I kind of thought about after
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: we discussed this on Tuesday, was like, does DeAndre Hopkins
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: make the Patriots super Bowl contenders?
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: No?
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: I mean does he make them super Bowl conners next year? Definitely?
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: No?
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: You know, so it's it's it's it's just one of
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: those moves like you feel like you kind of have
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: to make. But does it really move the needle where
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: we all want it to go?
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: If he alone doesn't. But if you if Mac takes
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: a jump and I'm talking beyond his rookie season, if
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: he if he throws for thirty plus touchdowns and four
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: thousand plus yards, and you have Dee Hopkins, I think
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: you're you're in the you're in the conversation now. I
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: think of, you know, being a playoff contender and then
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: anything goes and then anything goes to get in.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I think that they could
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: they could become a playoff contender.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, absolutely, And that's saying a lot because
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: of the division, because you know you're gonna be a
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: wild card, so you're gonna have to beat out a
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: bunch of teams just to get into the playoffs. So
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: it's saying a lot to be a playoff content.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: I would just like to go into to Buffalo one
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: time and feel like, if this game is played in
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: the thirties, we might actually have a chance to outscore
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: the Bills on the scoreboard. And Hopkins just makes it
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: feel like that.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: It's more like that makes a few stops.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: We got a shot, right, I mean, how many times
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: are we gonna go into Buffalo with just going into
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: the game knowing, really, we only win this game if
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: it goes one way, like if it turns into a
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: rock fight and and it's really windy or freezing or
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: there's a blizzard or something like out out of our
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: control happens. Because if we have to play Buffalo straight up,
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: then we have no chance. I just I need to
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: move the needle.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would, I would say too. To Fred's point, like,
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: it's it's not even about what you know, it's a
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: lot about what Hopkins would bring on the field, but
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: it's also just his arrivals. It's gives maxim encouragement, it
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: gives Mac you know, a little bit of juice, Like
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: all right, I got another really good guy to throw to.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: You know, maybe that that is something that can help
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: get him to that season that like you said, you know.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: A real professional wide receiver who knows the game, is crafty.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: You know, we'll get it. I think that can only
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: help the team.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: I just my brain can't get help. But go to
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: day one a training camp, when the fans are lining
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: up out there, what's the difference between if DeAndre Hopkins
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: is on this roster or he's not. I think it's
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: a huge difference. I think that that's going to put
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: seats in the butt, seats in the butt, in the butt.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Wow, that was a good one. That was a good one.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Seats in the butts. I might want to sit the
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: next one. No, and I wouldn't the whole like, does
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: he make you a super Bowl contender? That shouldn't be.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: And I understand it, Like I get the theory and whatnot.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: I'm not making fun of anyone for thinking that way
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: that he's not going to make you a super Bowl contender,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: But I don't think that should be the be all
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: end all with every transaction that you make, Well, is
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: this guy gonna help us?
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: If he makes you better? And you're trying to get
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: better as a team, and yes, I do think mac
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Jones is part of that. It's a position that would
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: help mac Jones, that helps your overall course. Yeah, anything
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: you can do to help maximize what you have Mac
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Jones you should be thinking about because I think that's
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: a big part of the next three four to five years.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and certainly this season, any success will hinge on
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: how mac Jones plays. Yeah, you just.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: Look at the schedule too. I keep on going back
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: to the schedule and how difficult it is and how
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: many offenses that they're gonna play, even right out of
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: the gate with Philly and Dallas and now with Rogers
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: and with the Jets. Like, you're gonna have to score
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: some points to win some games. And at some point
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: you have to recognize that and go all in and
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: everything that you can. I'm not saying, like go sign
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: Hopkins and Dalvin Cook, but like you have to do
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: some things to get closer to be able to compete
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: like that because you're not gonna beat every single team
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: twenty to seventeen, especially with the offenses and the quarterbacks
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: that are on their schedule. It's gonna be some shootouts
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: and can you win one of those games? Because you haven't,
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: you haven't won one of those games.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: I won't overreact to week week one, but I just
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: I think the Eagles kind of embodied just such a
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: fascinating first test of everything the Patriots kind of do
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: and stand for, and what the Eagles have done and
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: stand for, what their offensive scheme is, and how many
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: fits that's giving a balance team balance. They got a
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: lot of you know, a lot of frigging guys from
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: Georgia on the defense, but I mean, they just, you know,
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: they I think everybody is pretty impressed with just their
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: team building approach and you know, and I think the
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: Patriots used to have that.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: I don't think they've had it lately.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: And it's just that it's a really interesting first game
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: as far as the narrative goes.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: I understand it, and I totally and that's why I
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: would want to I would want to make a move
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: like that, not because I think he's gonna put me well,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: now I can do X, Y and Z, but he's
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: going to help me do some of the things that
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I haven't been able to do now for two years.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: And I do think that that's part of if you
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: want to people write in and they call in all
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: the time and they ask us what kind of things
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: would you think would represent progress? You know, these nebulous
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: kind of if he did this, or if Mac did
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: that and the offense did this, and they showed signs
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: of that, and we always say, well, you kind of
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: know it when you see it. It's hard to just say, well,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: if he throws for X amount of yards and X
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: amount of touchdowns. To me, if you can get at
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: the end of the year, there's no longer anybody rationally
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: saying Hac Jones shouldn't be the quarterback in year four.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: That would be a very positive sign. And I think
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: part of that should be trying to make sure that
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: you have everything in support of him that you can
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: and that doesn't mean you bend over backward to do
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: things that are going to hurt the team just to
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: help the quarterback. This to me, helps the team adds
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: at the very least, it adds depth at a position
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: that I think you have a lot of similar If
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: you have a lot of similar players, I think he
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: would be the best player.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: And Tevan's point at the top of the show with
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: the two rookies you know. I mean, we don't want
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: to bury them at all at this point, but you know,
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: it's just something to think about. The depth is certainly
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: an issue, like you said, and you know, if those
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: guys don't pop, you're gonna need another body.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: And you have to remember that both of those guys
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: were selected in the sixth round. Now, I understand that
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Booty is considered to be more talented than the sixth round,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: but it wasn't just because he fell out of favor
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: at LSU. That's not why he went from the late
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: first second round to the sixth round. It was because
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: of his production, because of how he ran at the combine,
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: the injury that he had with you, there's a lot
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: of things that factored into that, you know, in addition
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: to you know, Brian Kelly kind of asked them to leave.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the only reason why I brought it up
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: was to kind of temper expectations for those two a
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: little bit, because I do think it's gotten and maybe
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: some of this was our fault, my fault.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: I don't speak for everybody, but I loved that book.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: I still love the pick, but.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: I do think that now that we've gotten out there,
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: Like d you said the other day, you know, the
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: top four received veteran guys aren't at practice, and Booty
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: and Douglas are have this great opportunity to pop a
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: little bit and they kind of did nothing.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: So it's funny that you said that. So that was
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: kind of like the top of my blog thing on Tuesday,
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: was that the thing that you were talking about during
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: the show and during practice I stole from you. I
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: told Joe I was going to do it about just
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: how heavily involved all the rookies were. I didn't really
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: accentuate the receivers because I didn't really see a whole
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: lot from them. Yeah, but I you know, we were
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: talking about you know, Gonzales in white and you know
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: how they were, where Mapu went from linebacker one day
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: of OTAs to safety and being active the next day
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: that we got to see OTAs. I didn't really see
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: a whole lot from Douglas or Booty. Doesn't mean that
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: we won't see him. It was OTA practices, So I'm
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: not writing them off by any means, But yeah, I
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: thought they were a little.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: I'm not writing them off, but these are the types
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: of practices that you want to see a receiver. There's
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: no contact, there's no pads. Like, if you're not getting
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: open and creating separation in the spring, then how are
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: you going to do it once? People can hit you
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: if they don't.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Bite when they're puppies.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: I felt like to the covers was a little bit
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe this is I might be wrong
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: on this one. But do you feel with Gonzales like, oh, yeah,
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: he's the guy? Like based off that practice, do you
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: feel like, oh, he's the number one? Like I just
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: I felt like there was a lot of reactions of like,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: though he's the number one because he was out there.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: It's like, we do this every year, and we all
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: do it. I'm guilty of it too. Again, I don't
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: like to I make fun of myself as much as
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: I make fun of everybody else. I know people don't
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: always hear it that way, but when Bill tells you
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: time and time again to not do that, we still
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: all do it. Marp who was out there right next
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: to Juwan Bentley the first time we get a chance
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: to win, Oh my god, he's got a red jersey on.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: He's a rookie.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Day one.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: The next practice we go through and Christian Gonzalez is
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: at left corner first play, first play that we get
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: to see him at OTAs he's out there. Yeah, okay,
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: we'll see what happens. You know, I think that Gonzalez
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: is going to be the starter. I told you Rossie
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Dowling started week one as a rookie. Like, it's not
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: going to be this way out of character thing for
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Bill Belichick to start a cornerback, a rookie cornerback in
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: week one.
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: Don't put that bad juju.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying, like, I think it's more likely
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: than not that he starts. Yeah, week one, you pick
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: him in the first round, it's a need he should start.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: He should start.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: If he doesn't, it's upset. But I just I just
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: want to pump the brakes on like he's a shutdown
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: corner you know. I'm like, like, pump the brakes like,
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: I like, we all want him to be, Hey, go
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: follow Stefan Diggs and take him out of the game.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: But I just I think that that's way too lofty
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: to expect for this.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Before we started, Evyon was joking around about the you
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: know the stats that everybody compiles during the you know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: during these practices. You know, so and so was you know,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: eight for nine during the competitive but there was no
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: competitive portion of that.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: That's and I will admit that it's difficult. It takes
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: a while to train your eyes of like is this
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: a live rep? Is this not a live rep? Like
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: where are we on you know, the from walk through
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: to to full tilt? Like what percentage are we going?
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: But the stats that come out from these OTA practices
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: is a joke. I mean, like what, First of all,
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: a lot of the time the corners are letting up
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: and letting the receivers catch the ball just so that
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: the drill can continue, like whether or not that they're
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: actually catching it or not. So you know, they're running
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: like a like a kill the clock type of drill
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: at the other practice on it the other day, and
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty positive that the corners were being told to
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: just let because they're trying to work on the situation.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: They're not really necessarily worried about going one on one
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: or are you gonna catch it? Or are you gonna
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: stop it? They're just trying to play out this is
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: what happens when we're trying to get a first down
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: to run out the rest of the clock. So yeah,
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: don't don't pay any attention to that.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Was he six or seven?
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: All right, let's the phones. Eldred's in North Carolina? What's up, Eldred?
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's tell y'all doing passionate honk there like yes, sir.
• 41:41
  Speaker 10: Evan all with you? Man, it makes them better. I
• 41:44
  Speaker 10: don't give you thirty one thirty two. Go get him,
• 41:47
  Speaker 10: you know, at least we'll see what kick the towers
• 41:50
  Speaker 10: on them to think and that'd be good. But Fred,
• 41:53
  Speaker 10: I listened to Tuesday show because I couldn't get in. Yeah,
• 41:55
  Speaker 10: you hurt my feelings? Man? What did I do hurt
• 41:58
  Speaker 10: my feeling?
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 42:00
  Speaker 10: Okay, I told you when they met, when they picked them.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well I I then I apologize. I forget I
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: didn't I don't remember that. But if you said that,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: then I apologize.
• 42:16
  Speaker 10: I didn't predict the s I'll say, we're going to
• 42:19
  Speaker 10: the super Bowl, okay, And if you played back old clip,
• 42:22
  Speaker 10: you just say that.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm why don't you get that old clip?
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Get that for next week.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: To be fair, if they didn't have Randy Moss and
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: you picked them to go to the super Bowl, that
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: have been outlandish at the time.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Like I thought Dante Starwolf was a guy. You guys
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: know that I'm you know, probably as pessimistic as as any.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: There was like an eleven year stretch, right, I picked
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: him to go to the super Bowl every year.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But but coming off but coming off his year
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: at in at the Raiders, people didn't really know what
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: you were getting with Randy Moass, and that's why you
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: got him for fourth round pick exactly.
• 43:02
  Speaker 10: But but I said, superdrum. He said, you get the
• 43:05
  Speaker 10: rand new of old. And I believe them. Okay, Like
• 43:07
  Speaker 10: I said, I knew Randy a little bit. So like
• 43:10
  Speaker 10: I said, the girl was dating at the time, his
• 43:12
  Speaker 10: baby mama drama is Virginia, all.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: Right, okay, okay, six degrees of uh so you knew
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: it's like Zion Williams.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: But great, you know, y'all all right, thanks, all right?
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: So we we. Julio was the comparison, and that one
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: was spot on. It turns out statistically, Moss was thirty
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: when he came to the Patriots. The year before with
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: the with the Raiders, he had forty two catches for
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: five hundred and fifty three yards and three touchdowns. God
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: some of the conversations are are similar between those two guys.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: You know, do they how much do they want to practice?
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: How much effort are they putting in? Like malcontents in
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: their current people thought he flat out didn't want to play,
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: right absolutely, Yeah, yeah, I mean he Moss was a
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: year younger. But I'm not saying that if they signed
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: Hopkins is gonna catch twenty three touchdowns. But I think
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: that there's you know, there if you you could say
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: it's Julio, but you could also say it's for any Moss,
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: right like there, And that's sort of the point, right,
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: and let's play.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: We'll play, you know, the positive side of it, Like
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: look at the impact that those high profile wide receiver
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: acquisitions had last year, you know, with Hill and Adams
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: and Brown. You know, is it completely out of the
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Roman possibility? Like I know you would joke around you said,
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: like twenty three touchdowns? What if you cut like thirteen? Yeah,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: if you got twenty three, what if you cut like
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: thirteen touchdowns for you? Yeah, and all of a sudden,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: he vaults your offense to a different level, right, Like
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: it's it's not completely out of the realm of possibility
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: for a great player to have one more great season.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Spend the money. Just get him here, Get him here.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I mean like if I'm if you're the Titans, maybe
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: you don't need it. Let him leave today.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: I mean that's what I'm working.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: And he comes in and say, you're not leaving.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: If you leave, go now. You just can't leave.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like rapes rapes.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so me.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: At least get a visit, Like, can you at least
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: get a seat at the table. That's the thing that has.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: He seen the new video board.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: He's got to see the.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: New video Who's the agent that he chose?
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: Uh? Guy that works for Clutch Sports.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: I forget his name.
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: I did I know the name.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: He's not a friend of Bill.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: You're texting him yet, Evan.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: It's not Neil Cohen rich or Drew Rosenhouse.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: No, it's not true.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Allen Eagleston, Na and agents.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Don't all right, a lot of emails coming in. Let's
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: see Alex has wondered about the background noise. Sorry about that.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: There is construction going on. Uh so it's a lot
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: of beeps.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: It's like it was like a cacophony of beeps.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Well you get well, I know you weren't because I
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: had checked with you earlier. Fred, were you here when
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: the evacuation happened yesterday? Yeah, I didn't see you outside.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: It wasn't ann actual evacuation.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: But how did you know?
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: He gave it a Fred And because it says if
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: you listen, if after this announcement, the signal stops and
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: you don't have to go out. So the single started
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: for started for five seconds and then it stopped.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Everybody else went on it's busy not on our floor. Well,
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: I just assume.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: I actually listened to the announcement, so we were good,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: but there was a fire, let's see. Dylan Wright saying,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: just wanted to give a shout out to Evan. Love
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: watching people say we need to get younger through the
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: draft and get good, young, skilled position players. Then Evan
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: says the second round wide receiver going into their second
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: year looks good so far, and then every call is
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: people saying let's pump the brakes. I'm glad I don't
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: have to worry about people calling in to chastise me
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: because Gonzo and Thornton look good and I'm excited to
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: see their production this season. I feel confident, saying they
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: will both be good players, and it's funny to me
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: that people consider that a bold take.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I think one of them is a bull tack.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: Taekwon.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you didn't really see anything that would
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: lead you to believe that's gonna be a really good player.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: I still don't know what we got on him. He was.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: I'm not telling you he's bad, But like Gonzales, there's
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: there's a freshness there. He's he's a rookie, first round pick,
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: and you know, we love the athleticism, let's see him play.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: But the Wointon played a whole year and it was
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: kind of and that's what I like.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to find a comp to him of like,
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: you know, to be like what could he be? And
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: there's just not a lot of you know, bean pull
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: speed burners out there in the league. Like I don't know,
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: I just I struggled.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Just that's what it is.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: And that's stupid because you know, he's his own guy
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: and you shouldn't have to rely on a comparison.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: But I'll give you a couple. Yeah, you know, I
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: have these. I have these in the chambers. I'm interested,
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: So I think the best one just because of who
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: the coordinator is is will Fuller. Now will Fuller, if
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: he was healthy, would have been a thousand yard receiver
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: for a long time. He just didn't stay healthy. And
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: when I remember will Fuller, I remember him being a
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: bigger guy. I actually looked it up. He's basically the
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: same size as Taekwon. He was. He was a rail
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: thin burner, you know, that was exactly, and he couldn't
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: stay healthy well, and he couldn't stay healthy. So maybe
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: maybe he couldn't stay healthy just because he couldn't stay
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: healthy and he's unlucky, or maybe it was because his
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: body was too frail and he got hurt all the time.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know, but he just watching how he was
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: used in Bill O'Brien's offense in Houston, it's there's some
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: similar comparisons.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: That's a good one.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: And you know, he hasn't hasn't broken out in the
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: NFL yet. But Jamison Williams at Alabama under O'Brien had
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: a great year at his breakout season, and he's also
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: a six foot one hundred and eighty pounds, soaking wet
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: for two guys. So we'll see what happens with Jamison
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: Williams in the NFL. But I think that those two
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: the way they were used within the structure of Bill
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: O'Brien's offense, I think you can kind of take away
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: as some similarities there some overlap.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Tim from Duncan, our friends at Duncan listening to you guy,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Duncan listening to you guys on Hopkins today, and the
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: chances of him coming to the Patriots. Fortunately, I think
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: he's not leaving Nashville without a contract. On a totally
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: different note, my son walked by Paul on Tuesday in
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: the stadium and immediately called me and said, who's that
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: gray haired guy you always watch and listened to. I
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: immediately said Paul Parolo, and sure enough he said, yes,
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: this show is it's best ever. And that's saying something.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Catch twenty two is great in its own right.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: Thank you, Tim, Thanks Tim, Thanks Tim.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I need While he was talking, says he says
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: who the person was, but he said it's off the
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: air for off the air.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: I want to know if he like, you know, breach
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: security or anything.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: Paul loves when he gets asked for autographs, So don't
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: hesitate next time.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Just mister, I hate you.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Signed anyway, Paul says, yeah, you know, I had to
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: go speak to a class that he loves that he
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: gets up there and you know, has the ring and everything, and.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, I do I do enjoy that. That's actor. I
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: enjoy speaking to classic.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I know you don't you want to kiss the ring.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: I think that's cool.
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: I did at one time.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: That never will never stop being cool. When someone says
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: hello to you that I'm sorry, that will never stop
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: being cool to me, that makes me a bad person.
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: Then it's especially cool when it happens when I'm with Jess,
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: because then it's like me.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: That will turn.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: That doesn't care, it doesn't care for that.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Beth Rules Arising goes.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Please Andrea from New Jersey. Here are my two bold
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: predictions for the Patriots. By the start of the season
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: and when the season is over. That Pig in the
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: urban setting will be a starter over Trent Brown by
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: week one or week four.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Just a tremendous I don't think. I don't think that
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: got enough. I mean, we all laughed and we all
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: liked it, but in listening to the open today, I
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: don't think we gave it enough.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: The origin of that though.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: My other prediction is Patriots will be in the AFC
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Championship game, all those analysts on television talking about the
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: other three teams in the division will look like buffoons
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: disrespecting this team. This will be Belichick and mac Jones
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: revenge tour. What are they getting revenge about?
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine you don't want to get mac Jones upset?
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Ps. I know how to write good emails and become
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: a real football nerd like Evan Fred. Can I come
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: to work for you? Well?
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: No, that kind of seemed like a shot at effort.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: We're not hiring. That seemed like a shot at There's
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: only one. There's only one nerd that's allowed to be here.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: All right, just like there's only one Duce.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Ray says, I'll be honest, I don't have a highly
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: constructive email to write today, but I wanted to bump
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Fred's nickname for cities up another level. The second movie
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: in the Babe series is Babe Too in the City.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised Hollywood Duce didn't make the connection. And also
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I noticed that Eric's replacement, Evan properly used the term
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: jettison during Tuesday's show. In order to fully supplant Eric,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: we need Evan to define flotsam and jetsam and the
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: cycle will be complete.
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: I can't, so at least you would.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: I heard part.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: Talked about it.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: We we we did discuss that, that that whole argument thing.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so say what it is, I'll do, I'll do
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: my O. I can't. I don't know.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: I don't have that.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't have the top of my head. No, Fred,
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: that's not what I said. Yes, that's what I said.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: No matter what he said, is what he said. Even
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: though it doesn't have anything to do with crap flam
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: in the ocean. Isn't that what it is? Well, one
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: of them had to do with like actual stuff that
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: was thrown off, like an airplane, because flats was that
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: the flats of the jets, the jets, jets from the jets.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Anyway, it wasn't what Eric thought it was.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: Whatever it was, Eric butchered it and like Fred said,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: instead of just saying I don't know, like Evan did.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: It went on for forty five minutes. Fred George, all right,
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: we're gonna take a break. My foods here. When we
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: come back, we'll have more. Fred.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And now Great Moments in.
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  Speaker 2: History. Both terms refer to items found floating in the sea. However,
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  Speaker 2: Eric was wrong stating that the distinction relates to the
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  Speaker 2: type of vehicle.
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  Speaker 5: I misspoke, Eric, We have it on tape.
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  Speaker 3: I just said I misspoke.
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  Speaker 2: You were clear were taking context. There was no misspeaking.
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  Speaker 2: Did you misremember the fact that you mentioned a plane
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  Speaker 2: is absolutely one hundred percent wrong.
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  Speaker 19: Yes, because I was thinking in my head jet Jettison
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 19: was thinking jets wrong.
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  Speaker 3: So that's how I was remembering it, because he said.
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  Speaker 2: Jets Let me finish this. The correct distinction is that
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  Speaker 2: flotsam is debris from a flessel, from a vessel that
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: was that was not deliberately thrown overboard, and jetsam is
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: debris from a vessel that was deliberately thrown.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I'm aware you didn't say that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I did say that.
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  Speaker 19: Eric, I said, when there's a shipwreck, he kind of flats, Yeah,
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  Speaker 19: because it just floats when it just floats from a
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  Speaker 19: shipwreck when.
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  Speaker 3: You throw stuff off.
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  Speaker 2: But he was right about the the action.
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  Speaker 3: He was wrong about the vehicle, right.
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  Speaker 19: No, I said, when there's a shipwreck, Yeah, the stuff
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 19: that's the debris from the shipwreck is floating.
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  Speaker 2: That's flats.
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  Speaker 3: That's not correct.
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  Speaker 4: It is correct.
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  Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.
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  Speaker 2: He just kept digging a hole deeper and deeper.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that went on for another half hour. Yeah, I
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: just wanted to stay for the record. Did I misrepresent
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: that story in any way? And another rare one that
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: I wasn't really involved in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good one though. Yeah, that was
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: a good one.
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  Speaker 5: I'm nothing like that.
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  Speaker 2: You have your own oddities back here. Eight five five
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  Speaker 2: pats five hundred is the ace ticket hutline web radio
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  Speaker 2: at Patriots dot com as the email address deuces Mike
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  Speaker 2: isn't working.
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  Speaker 5: Oh no, did you break it? Deuced?
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: Oh no, oh boy, let's get because he had so
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: many ridiculous takes, so we had to cut you off.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Let's get back to some of these emails at web
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: radio at Patriots dot com. Neil from New Brunswick. I'm
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: wondering if any of you heard Tom Brady's recent string
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: of interviews. I heard the conversation with Rich Eisen. My opinion,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: he says all the right things, but it's still pretty
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: bitter toward the Patriots. When asked about Aaron Rodgers' chances
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: of doing what he did with the Bucks, he said
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: it would be tough because the Bills and Dolphins are
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: really good, and then proceeded to take ten seconds to
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: remember the fourth team in the division, the Patriots. When
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: asked about returning for Week one to be honored, he
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: said he was excited and then basically said it will
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: be a miracle if the Patriots win because the Eagles
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: are so good and apparently we're so bad. The nicest
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: thing he can say is, as kids were born in Boston,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: I would get your honoring in while you can be
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: based oh what happened? What's going on here? I would
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: get your honoring him while you can, because based on
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: the way he talks, I would not expect frequent visits
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: from TB twelve. Interesting did anyone else see the recent
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: string or hear the recent string of interviews?
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I would just say that I didn't based
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: on that summary. I didn't really see the shots.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: Hello, oh here I am.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: I think he was saying that he wasn't giving the
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: Patriots a seat at the table in the AFC East
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: because he's mentioned the Jets and the Dolphins. But I mean,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: to be fair, Brady is going to be on Fox
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: as an analyst, and you know, whether you think he's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: actually going to take that job or not, he's going
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: to have to be somewhat objective and he can't just
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: wave the pomp pomps for the Patriots all the time.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: And he is going to be part owner of the Raiders.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, But my point is like saying that the Jets
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: and the Dolphins have improved and not really you know,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: talking about the like, that's not a shot, right right,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, did you take that as a shot? No?
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: I guess we didn't hear it, so maybe it came off.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think the most optimistic Patriot fan would
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: have to say on paper, the Patriots are fourth in
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: the division. Again, Evan's been saying it about Aaron Rodgers
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: for weeks now, like he's not buying it. If Aaron
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: Rodgers doesn't work with the Jets, of the Patriots will
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: finish probably like they did last year, neck and neck
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: with the Jets, maybe one game ahead like they did
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: last year. If Rogers works, the Jets are probably going
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: to finish ahead of the Patriots.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: They could finish ahead of the Bills. Who knows, David,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: No one knows.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: That's the beauty of it.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: David and Bethlehem.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: Wait till after the season to judge the schedule.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Would you rather sign Hopkins or use that money to
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: extend u j Duggar or Mills? Can't do everything's David
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: and Bethlehem.
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  Speaker 3: It's not how it works.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: Do you think you need to say money to extend
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: Jalen Mills?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: And you think it's gonna cost you to sign Hopkins
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: what it would cost you to extend Oo Jay Duggar.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: And it's also just not how it works. Whatever, like
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: Ja and Duggar's contracts are, they're going to be extended
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: for next season, so they're gonna play this season under
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: their current contract and then the next season is when
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: the cap will increase on those two guys, not this season,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: and so you're you're not taking the money from the
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: same Pool.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: Don't ever change because that's the way that Boston fans
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: think about their teams. I don't understand it. I don't
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: know why you but it's just actually inaccurate. I don't know,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: it's not how it works. Yeah, I think Deandrew Hobbins
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: is a really good player, and but how's that going
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: to work on the cap? Figure it out? Figure it out.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: That's your job. They have guys that that's their sole
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: responsibilities to figure out the salary cap.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Figure it out, Jessin Connecticut, are the joint practices open
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: to the public. I'm going to be in Green Bay
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: for the joint practice and I would love to go
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: to it. If they're open to the public. If you
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: have any details on them, what days they are, that
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: would be appreciated.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: So it just should be.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so look at the green Bay game and it'll
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: be you know that Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday before no with
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: games on Friday, green.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: Bay games on Saturday Saturday.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday in green Bay and
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: green Bay will because it's their place, they'll be the ones. Yeah,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: probably sixteenth and seventeenth, And knowing green Bay, I would
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: imagine they will be open to the public probably you know, the.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: Public, right.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say I think joint practices have to
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: be open, but I don't know that for sure.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Let's see, Anthony in Seattle wants to have us explain
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: pigging an urban setting. It flew over my head city
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: south city sou pigging an urban setting.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: Apparently the urban setting would be city, right right.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: Apparently it's not. You don't pronounce it's sow though. Oh really,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: that's just what.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: Who doesn't pronounce his name?
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: His honor city Sue is Sue?
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: Oh city, Sue, City Sue.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: Like that changes the whole.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: It changes the whole, it does, So what's going.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: That's why we can't be like like an urban re
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: litigious person like Sue says.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: Listen. This is according to Phil Perry, who I trust on.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: He's good with the names because he goes and he
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: finds them talking about their names in college, right, like
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: you know, he found like the other day Kishan Booty
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: told the reporter at l SU, it's.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: Booty booty, but he said it like booty body booty,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: like it was like booty. It was like no booty
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: because you got to have the Louisy in a twang
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: in there, right?
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: He does.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: Also, Evan, can you please elaborate on how your new
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: baby nephew, Jason is named after your great uncle Jerry,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: because at face value, I'm pretty sure he's not.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: That's a good point. I can't tell you. But I
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: didnt see him yesterday and he how's he doing?
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: Hanging in there. Yeah, that's cool, getting waight hair falling out.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: It's getting a little bigger. Yeah, it's definitely a little
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: bigger than than than day one when I when I
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: saw him. So can I just die zero?
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: That's really?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: Can I bring up some Felger and mass stuff to discuss?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: I was listening transition stuff.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: I have been listening, no I I yeah, I tuned
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: in yesterday. I just thought it was interesting that so
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: they were kind of talking about the fight a little bit,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: and and and I didn't know who they were talking
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: about it first, and they were kind of saying, you know,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: this is a guy who's been here for a little bit,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: like he should be a leader. This shouldn't be happening.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: And I should say too. I didn't know at first
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: that that they were talking about the fight. I just
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: heard them talking about a player that was here and
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: should be a leader and those kind of things. And
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: then it, you know, came to light that they were
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: talking about Barmore, and I was a little bit like,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't really like necessarily need everybody
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: to be a leader all the time, like, and I
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: didn't like what I saw from the practice, but I
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: was just curious what you guys kind of thought about
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: about Barmore in that regard. But also, like you know,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: talking aigger.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: Play and he plays, I don't really like, I don't
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: know him to be everything. I just need him to
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: be a good player.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: But I found myself wondering, just like because we talked
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: to Douggar the other day, and I mean, he's just
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: he's so straight laced and and you know, tough as
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: tough as anything to get like, you know, any kind
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: of personality or interesting stuff out of you know, do
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: you think that this is something like like are we
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: waiting for new leaders to emerge here? Like do you
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: think that there's a little bit of a vacuum right now?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 20: Yeah?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: I love te trick wise, and I think that he,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: you know, speaks well for the team. And David Andrews
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: but you know, those guys are kind of the lone holdovers,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: and you know, you lose mccordy, and you know, Slater's
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: getting up there, and I'm kind of waiting for like
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: practice with the team right right, you know, But but
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: I'm waiting for, you know, some of these new guys
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: to just step up it and feel like vocal leaders
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: to me. And I don't really see any new players,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: you know, And and look, everybody can't do it. And I
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: love Kyle Dugger as a player, and you don't have
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: to be a vocal leader to be a good football
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: player to have a spot on a team. But I
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: just found myself feeling like they're they're relying still on
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: the same kind of guys. And when some of these
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: young guys get up to talk, I'm not really hearing
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: people talk about the team or talk about what we
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: have to do. It's always kind of left to these
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: older veterans. And so it just left me wondering of,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: you know, who are the next guy's going to be?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know Mac, but you know, I just
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: I'm so used to Rodney Harrison, Willy, you know Willy,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: and you know all those guys that just kind of
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: spoke for the team and spoke about, you know, what
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: we have to do and those kind of things, and
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: it's just as mccordy leaves it, it feels like that
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: number of guys is dwindling and not really finding new guys.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: Not that I expected Duggar to do it, but he
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: could have been the kind of guy who's up for
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: a long term contract to you know, hey, it seems
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: like he's taking ownership of this team now a little
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: bit instead of just being like one of the guys
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: who you know needs to be told like what we have.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: To do to win games. It's interesting. I'm not even sure, Like,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: obviously Mac needs to be a leader, but beyond that,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: who should it be. I don't know the answer to that.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: I think the one guy that stands out to me
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 5: when we hear we talked to him is Joan Bentley,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: Like he's an intense, well spoken guy that you know
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 5: it does have some personality, does have some uh good answers,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 5: I think when we talked to him, and I think
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: he could be someone that that fits that. But you're right,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: I mean they don't have I mean those guys were titans, right,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: like McGuinness and Bruski and Vrabel, like those guys were
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: cut from a different cloth. And I don't even know,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: And this is a shot at people my age and younger.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: I don't even know if those people exist anymore. To
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: be honest with you, like, I don't know if that
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: type of mentality and that type of person really exists
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 5: at that level where you know, McGinnis was, you know,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: notorious for being like one of those types of guys
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: that helped and and was it was all about that
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: and every I don't know. I don't know if this
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: generation does it the same way.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: I like your Bentley example, but it's just my only
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: and I love the guy, but he's also it's just
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: he's a player that everybody kind of sums up as like, well,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: that's a problem. We got to get rid of Bentley.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: We got to have a more mobile middle linebacker. You know,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: like you never said like, oh, yeah, Will, he's a leader,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: but we got to get rid of him, you know,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: like like that's and that's you know, that's a stupid,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: probably ancillary thing. But yeah, I mean I do really
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: like Bentley. I just I wonder with some of these
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: younger guys if if they're going to take roles.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: On now, But who do you think it should be.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, I, like I said, I wanted it to
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: be Doug Er, but I mean, I think, you know what, Fred,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: it probably speaks more to the fact that the team
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: just doesn't have a lot of young star players right now.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: And I think sometimes that you're a star, you get
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: that kind of mojo, people acknowledge it. And maybe that's
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: why I'm putting it a little bit on Kyle Duggart
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: just you know, And I don't I don't want to
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: make an example out of him because I just don't
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: think that is who he is. He's just serious football guy.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: He wants to talk ball. He doesn't, you know, really
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: want to worry about all that other stuff.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: But I think Christian Gonzales is kind of the same
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: way though, like he's a little bit more soft spoken,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: and I don't know, I just don't know if that
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: guy exists.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: To Evan's point, let's look at the Super Bowl champs,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Obviously Mahomes is the leader beyond him, who
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: is it, kel Jones?
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: Kelsey?
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: I think Kelsey is a leader?
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah really, okay, Frock style, I think Chris Jones up
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: front defense Gronk style.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: But I wouldn't have called Gronk one of the vocal
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: leaders of the team.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: But Gronk was a planet player, right, like, like people
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: got behind Gronk and and did it the right way.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for all the there's a lot of similarities between
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: Kelsey and Gronk. Now, I've always found Gronk more likable
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: than Kelsey. Maybe that's because I'm a Patriots honk like
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: everybody else. But I think for all their you know,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: clownish behavior, their work ethic was never to be questioned,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: both of them. Yeah, you know, and like Evan said,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: planet players, so it's easy to lead that way. And
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: I do think that they had the team in mind,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: you know, with how they go about their business. Like
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: you don't hear a lot about Kelsey. I mean, everybody
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: has some things, but you don't hear them, like blowing
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: off training camp because he's looking for a new contract
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: or whatever, or you know, he misses a game with
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: a bad ankle and it turns into a missus a
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: month with a bad ankle. You don't hear that a
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: lot with those guys. I think those are leaders, like
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: you don't have to be necessary by the book. You know,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: he's the leader. He does like Devin.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: Mccordy at the podium.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do think that those guys, I think
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: a lot of those teams they take their lead to
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: you A point, Mike about like, where do you find it?
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: You know, young or old? I don't know if you
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: guys caught the ESPN thing that came out today. I
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: think it was Seth Walder a Wilder, I might be
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: mispronouncing that it was behind the paywall on ESPN plus,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: he ranked the cores top five players he defined as
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: the core for every NFL team, and the Patriots ranked
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: twenty seventh. It was mac judea on, uh are you
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: looking this up there?
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: Because I know what you're talking about.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: So the Patriots ranked twenty seventh in that there was
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: only two AFC teams behind them. Indianapolis and Houston were
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: the only two AFC teams behind them in terms of
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: the core of the team. And it's not necessarily young core,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: like Aaron Rodgers is a core for the Jets right now.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: So it's just the five players that you determine as
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: your core. So when you look at that Dougger, it
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: was it was Dougger Judon, Mac.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: And I got to log in far more.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: Ch I think was was one. So it should like
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: that's your core your team, right, you should think that
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: that's where your leaders are coming from.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: Mac, Judon, Dougger, Mike on.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: Win You okay, so Dougger and the when you were
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: in contract years O three, So three of the five
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: are in contract years. So you might say, like that's
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: where I wanted to come from. Well you have to
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: retain them. You know, a guy who's been around a
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: lot longer than people realize, Jonathan Jones, is he just
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: not that kind of a player. He's not really that
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: outspoken leader type.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: No, I don't think so.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: So like sometimes just hard, you know, and you know
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: sometimes you know those kinds of guys like Willie and
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: Bruski and Vrabel, they don't they don't grow on Rodney,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: they don't grow on trees.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: I mean with them though, is the absence of that
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: something that you feel like the team lacks or is
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: it just something that has to develop organically as they
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: turn the corner and become a better team.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: I would go with b. I think that they need
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: talent more than they need you know, like I think
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: the bigger problem they have right now to me is
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: the lack of high end talent than the lack of leadership.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I think I think they need both. Of course,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: I think you need that. You need those people you
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: know during the week who just regulate.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: I wonder what, like, say, the leadership hierarchy is in
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: Los Angeles with the Chargers, for example, who I think
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: do have some high end talent. Now, I don't think
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: there's talented as a lot of people say they are,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: but I do think they have a pretty talented roster,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: certainly one that's built, built well enough to win a
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: playoff game. You know, they had a playoff game in
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: the bag last year that they kicked away. But I
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: wonder what that hierarchy looks like. I wonder what would
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: like Joey Bosa and Derwyn James, those kinds of players.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: I wonder if that I don't know them, I'm not
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: telling you they don't, but I wonder if those guys
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: are strong leaders as well as being the best players.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: And one part of that, too, I think is that
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: the guys we mentioned, the Patriot guys, those guys were
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: all kind of they weren't They didn't just come to
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: New England in ninety five ninety six and have it
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: like they went to AFC Championship, they went to Super Bowl,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: they lost. I mean, they were established veterans who have
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: been here a while. But I'd like to tie this
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: actually to Paul and Matt's pats from the past with
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: Scott Peoli that I listened to, which was excellent, I mean,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: different than the rest of them. And if if anybody
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: hasn't heard bullparts, they're they're great, except for the shot
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: Paul took a Sharon, but that asides. One of the
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: interesting things that Peoli said was that we never had
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: to worry about the locker room at all because Willie
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: and all those guys they had it on lock They
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: knew exactly what what needed to be done. They kept
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: everybody in line, and Bill and Romeo and Charlie and
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: all those guys could just focus on coaching, and you
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: know that. I think maybe that's where I kind of
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: got this initial idea in my head of you know,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: certainly last year it seemed like the Lockman wasn't policing
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: itself like that there was I mean, it was it
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: was as divided.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: As it's probably been.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so just how do you how do
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: you get back to that?
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: And it's it's a tough question.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: Jason writes in we should get the hot regardless of
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: his age, because simply having him on the field commands
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: respect and could open up other opportunities for the other
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: receivers such as Barren Thornton plus Casseki and Henry. We
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: need all the help we can get. Love the show.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: Side note, I don't think the Jets are going to
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: be as good as advertised with Rogers. Okay, was that.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: Me like my burner or something I knew?
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: I took this service as a stunning line. I thought
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: among Patriots fans, I don't think that the Jets are
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: going to be as good as people right.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: I thought when you brought up Paul Shows, I thought
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: you were going in a different direction, which I kind
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 5: of find interesting. This the biggest narrative around this team
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: right now is that the head coach and the quarterback
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: don't talk to each other at practice. Like that's that's
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 5: the biggest thing. I just think it's hilarious, Like I
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: think it's so funny that the people go out there
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: and like do you take notes of like, oh, Bill,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: at this portion of practice. Bill is standing here in
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: Mac was standing there.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: That's a big Greg bdardism, Like he goes on, he
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: goes on with them, and this is you can call
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: me like spiteful because they're not having me on. But
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: he goes on and that's what they talk about. And
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: he says, yeah, you know, Bill doesn't go anywhere near Mac,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: Like how did you even know? Like why were you watching?
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 6: That?
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: Is my first My first reaction is geez, I get,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: I guess that's true, but I didn't really notice it.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: I just watched the practice.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: Well, he keeps saying that Keon White wasn't at the
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 5: first practice because he was.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: He said it again.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: Did you hear he's probably spending too much time watching Bill?
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: And I did hear that when he was on on
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: Tuesday because Mike goes there. Well, I got, I gotta
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: let it go.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: But he gave We gave Greg a little crap when
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: we were we did. We were on the side of
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: like out there are he reached out. But I gotta
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: be honest with you. I still don't think that he
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: believes that he was out there.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: But so you guys, you guys don't make anything of
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: Bill and back not not being best.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: About I'll watch it now. I'll watch what I do
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: think if if they really don't talk, I don't think
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: that's good. No, he should be me. But I'm not
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: willing to accept the premise. Do you know what I mean? Somebody,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: I haven't really noticed that that's the kid, but maybe it.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: Is because your your shows. Then take it to the
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: next step and say that now mister Kraft has told
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: Bill that Bill O'Brien is in charge of the offense
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: and that Bill and Belichick needs to stay away from
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 5: the offense because Bill O'Brien, it's Bill O'Brien's show in Belichick.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: That's where I.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: Would completely divest of that, because Josh was in charge
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: of the offense. But Bill always talked to Tom, like
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: I know that Tom. Tom Curran has had this thing
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: that like the last nine years, they didn't really talk.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: They didn't Bill wasn't involved in the planning of the
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: offensive planning meetings, and that I'm not telling you with
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent certainty that that's not true. I don't
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: believe that to be true.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: That they didn't talk to Tuesday meeting at the very end,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: at the very end.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was true. I think Nick Cassario
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: was involved in those meetings with Josh and Tom, and
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: I don't think Bill was as involved as he was before.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: But I've watched training camp for a hundred years and
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: I've seen Tom and Bill side by side all the
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: time for you know, certainly within the last nine years,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: which is what it was sort of purported to be.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: If they don't talk at all, and that's a thing,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: like they really don't talk, that's a problem. Yeah, that's
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: like Dan Reeves, John Elway. Now you can win if
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: you if you're that good. But they hated each other.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 5: But I it's a problem if they don't talk, because
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: that's just not a good way to run your team, right.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 5: But at the same time, like I'm okay with Bill
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: O'Brien being the one that has the final running on
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: the conference, Bill Belichick, you got your chance last year
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: to run the offense and it didn't go so high,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: So like, let's let's let's let somebody else do. It's like,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: I'm okay with that.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: We all wanted let's get back to normal, right, So
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: we got that, and Bill's running the offense and now
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: everybody's looking at like, whoa Bill O'Brien's running the offense.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 5: Bill is.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: Spellichick not talking to mac jont Well, that's a problem. Like, yeah,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: I mean I think that we all want Bill O'Brien
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: to run the offense, but we still want the head
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: coach involved in everything, overseeing everything.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: I want those Tuesday meetings still happening, but I want
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: Max sitting down picking BB's brain every Tuesday, you know.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 5: Right, that was the whole thing was. You know, Camp
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: said that that Bill has like a crystal ball because
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 5: he breaks down the opposing defense as a defensive coach
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 5: and says, these are the three things that they're gonna
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: do to us schematically, and then he's able to then
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: tell the quarterback expect this. You look for that, like
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: those types of things, And that's what those Tuesday meetings
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: were all about. So if you're you got to have
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: that at least, but in terms of like the schematics
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 5: and the game plans and the schemes that they're installing
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 5: into the offense, like that's that's Bob show.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: You know what I didn't have on my BINGO card
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: was the picture that we put out on Twitter of
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: Belichick like apparently doing stand up comedy for Lagerrett Blunt
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: and uh and.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: Aaron Dobson like that.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: I like, and he builds like telling him a joke,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: like he looked like he was doing the stuff, Like
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: I missed the whole thing, like Chung and everybody.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 5: I also got to talk to Adler about why he
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: keeps on taking photos of other reporters. What about the
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 5: reporters the Patriots dot com. He's always putting pictus of escular.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: I don't restrain, I don't need anything.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 5: I made a picture of Polly Perillo.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: How many cameras are on you?
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: How about me in my chair? My cool?
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: You know, come on, I might need the chair.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: Merphs and Connecticut on the Acetic hotline. What's up, Murphy?
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 18: Gentlemen, For the.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 7: First time in a decade, I'm calling into a show.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 7: It is it is. It is pronounced city sew sewing machine.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: So that's the third that's the third third different.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: I think I got it wrong in my explanation.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 7: Soon, great, great show today, guys. And Gonzales. Yeah, he's
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 7: got to start week one. The only thing everybody is
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 7: is missing here is we don't need Gonzales to be
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 7: a shutdown corner for everybody's number one. We need Gonzales
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 7: to be a shutdown corner for everybody's number two.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: Huh, Okay, have a great day. Yeah, I mean, by
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: the way, no, I mean that's been a way to
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: do it. You know in the past, you put your
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: best guy in there two and then you double their one.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: I don't like that.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I like it.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not saying, like week one, he has to
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: shut down the other team's best player, but eventually I
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: need him to be that kind of a player that
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: I can line up against the other team's best player
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: and I feel good about that.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like I said, doesn't have to be like
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: right away, right, but when I yeah that that guy
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: eventually needs to be a guy feel good about every
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: matchup that he's involved.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 5: So week one, you see on a J. Brown or
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 5: DeVante Smith sides, well this is.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: This is like my whole thing about like he just
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: needs to shut down the number two.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: Okay, so who's the number two?
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: Who's the number two?
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: That's why I'm asking.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't like the idea of you
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: shut down the number two and then double the one.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: I don't like that.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: I think just play sides.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, are they still a travel team like in Man?
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's still going to be a thing.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: Like they played man like thirty five percent of the
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 5: time last year, which was high. Believe it or not.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: That how much time? Yeah, which is like eighth highest
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: in the league.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: Thirty five percent man is eighth highest in the league. See,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: those are numbers, you know how. I always like, I
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: need you know where the numbers relate. That to me,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: sounds like a low.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: Learn that from.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: I just say that. You always say the teams play
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: a lot less man than you would be less to believe.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: Certainly less than I would believe, because it's hard.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: It's hard, Franklin and Baltimore writes, and I wanted to
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: comment on something brought up on the last show, which
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: is that isn't the reason why the fans discuss so
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: much about the cost of signing players, because Bill's cost
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: effective approach has been his mo o during his tenure here. Yes,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: I too find the whole thing pointless to talk about
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: because none of that money is coming out of our
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: respective pockets, and we should want the Patriots to sign
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: every good player. But I do think also as a fan,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: we can't ignore the BB value skill position players specifically
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: at different differently than the rest of the league, which
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: is why myopically we go over contracts. I do want
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: to stress again that I find the topic pointless and
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: don't engage with it personally.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: I think I think he's right. No, I think he's
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: absolutely right. I think Bill has brainwashed the fandom into
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: thinking that's why they've had success.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: And I also because of financial Uh.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: Couldn't agree more.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't responsibility. Of the top of my.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: Head, I couldn't tell you like the three worst contracts
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: he's given up, but I can tell you the three
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: worst draft picks that he's given up. Like the draft
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: picks is what that when you go to try to
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: get like you spend a second round pick on Mohammed Sanu. Like,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: that's the things that bugged me. As far as Ben
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: burning assets, he.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 5: Has convinced everybody that wide receivers are a dime a dozen,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: that overpaying for wide receivers and drafting receivers in the
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: first round, which they've only ever done one time and
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: we know how that turned out, and paying them in
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 5: free agency or trading five draft picks for Tyreek Hill
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 5: is a ridiculous trade, and he has convinced people that
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: is to be is that's true? And I disagree with
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 5: him on it, Like that's that's one of my biggest
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 5: pet peeves up with him out of all of it,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: especially just looking at how maybe that was true twenty
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: years ago, but that is no longer true now. And
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 5: I think the rest of the teams around the league.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 5: So you know, Philly they spent a first round pick
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 5: on Devonte Smith and they traded for A J. Brown?
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 5: Are they in a bad shape? Did they do it poorly? Like?
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: You know, it's not just because I feel this way
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 5: because I like fantasy football, like these other teams that
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 5: have done it differently than you are in the Super Bowl.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say the two parts of that are
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: the salary cap itself was once an enormous part of
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: how you You couldn't just sign every great player that
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: you want. He talked about the peel in yeah, and
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: I even got Scotts would make it.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 6: Ye.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: You know back then when you were dealing with like
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: one hundred million dollar salary cap, give or take, Yeah,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: you couldn't afford to be making too many mistakes. You
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: couldn't afford to be signing all of the best players
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: because you did have to find a way to get
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: enough players in to help you. Now that the cap
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: is not anywhere near as restrictive, people have learned how
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: to go like that learned Floyd contract that Buffalo signed.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. That shouldn't be allowed. You shouldn't be able
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: to do that. You sign him, so the guy makes
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: something like nine million dollars and you're only paying him
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: like two on the cap because he's got like incentive
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: for this and void year for that, and it's just
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: all a bunch of crap. It's all bookkeeping, is all
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: the salary cap is. And yeah, if you do that
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: and lended Floyd stinks. Yeah it's not great. But if
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: he's good, it's not gonna hurt you next year, you know.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: And I just don't really understand why people haven't figured
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: that out yet. And that's that it's the financial landscape
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: of the league has changed so dramatically.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 5: And that's where the cash spending argument comes in because
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 5: other teams like the Eagles, you know, to use them
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 5: as as an example, they pay their way out of
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 5: cap jail. So they add these void years or they
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 5: you know, convert salary to signing bonuses and they just
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 5: literally pay their way out of hell. You know, New
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 5: Orleans they do it every year. Every year New Orleans
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 5: is like fifty million dollars over the cap, and every
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 5: year they somehow figure out a way to be under
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: When the time the.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: Individual season I always use for the Patriots is seven,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: you couldn't be all any more all in than the
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: Patriots were in seven. They were aggressive and free agency.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: They signed big money players, they traded for guys. They
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: gave a guy like Wes Welker. At the time, that
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: was a big contract. Seven. I know it sounds stupid,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: five years, seventeen million. At the time, that was a
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: big contract, and they went all in. It's it. They
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: didn't win and it didn't fall apart. It didn't fall
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: apart like it was the next year the quarterback towards
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: ACL and they still went eleven and five. That's how
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: good that team was. It's one of the it's one of.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 4: Paul's most interesting takes that you have in your in
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: your take bag of they could have got more.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: You know, had they been more aggressed that they could.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: That's more of an off air one. That's not one
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: I like to share on because I understand a how
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: spoiled it makes me sound, and b it's like comes
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: off as like I'm criticizing Belichick at the winning six titles,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: but I don't necessarily mean it that way. But I
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: do feel like if they were all in a little
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: bit more like does anybody does anybody anywhere, forget New England?
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: Does anybody anywhere not think that the Patriots would have
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: beat in Chicago you O six and the Super Bowl? Right?
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: Of course they would.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, So what.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: Was that contract you were holding on?
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: Why did you Why did you lose to the Colts?
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: Besides the fact that they pumped the flu into the
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: locker room front, they lost of the Colts because that
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: game was in Indy? Does anybody think that.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 5: India would have come back from twenty one?
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: You're getting to my point. That game was in Indy
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: because you had Rehae Caldwell as your number one receiver
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: and Gabbard Gaffney signed off the street in the middle
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: of the year and Doug Gabriel catching passes. That's the
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: only reason why you were on the road in the
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: AFC Championship game that you still should have won. Yeah.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: So like if you had tried everything in your power
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: to keep either Givens or Branch, that's another title.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah right, Branch. I mean what was the branch?
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: When?
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: What was he hung up over? Like in retrospect, it
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: probably seems ridiculous and everybody just.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: Looks wouldn't give him that? No, he probably did get overpaid,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: but you would have won another super Bowl if you
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: kept him.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: And who's like lamenting, Well we got one, but you know,
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: we really played on Branch a lot of money more
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: than I would have given him. But like who, like
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: who roots that way?
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: That's more of an off air because.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: I'll save that one.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 5: It's a take.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: It's a good one though, just sounds so spoiled.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: But I think it's an interesting it's an interesting discussion,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: you know. I mean, like, look, we are spoiled, and
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: you know half the time it's you know, going in
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 4: the other direction. You know you're complaining, but I don't.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: Know, there's so many things, even for great teams, so
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: many things have to happen to go all the way
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: and to do it as many times it's it's like
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: I I can't you know, maybe they could have won more,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: but the fact that they won six I think is amazing.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: It is, and that's why I don't like to spend
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: a lot of time doing that one. I'll talk about
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 3: it off here with anybody.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: I just I will never forget Caldwell's wide eyes after
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 5: he dropped the ball, and.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: Just Sam Martin hasn't gotten his T shirt, Matt Jeez.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: Sam Martin, former returner for the Patriots. So Sammy Martin.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: He was the one that answered where Evans's favorite sub
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: shop is. He says he hasn't gotten his jersey mics.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 5: He turned that for lunch.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: I've had some operational turnover in the admin department.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 4: Oh the shipping are you?
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: Are you putting stamp postage on these things? You're just
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: like throwing it in the mail, these pre packaged ones,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: pre pat you still have to put postage on it,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: you know, not these ones.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 12: You just put it in and fill out the address
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 12: and then send them in.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: Are you sure about that? That's just an envelope.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: People have gotten their T shirts with these.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: There's nothing I don't know about that.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: I think you still have to run it through the
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: postage meter. I don't know. I think there's some people
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: at the US Post Office that are getting free T
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: shirts Patriots on Filish Bob and Wilmington, North Carolina. Should
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: the Patriots really concern themselves with trying to outperform Buffalo?
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: All they do is choke. They've never been able to
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: perform when everything's on the line, and that includes their
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: newest choker, Josh Allen, who subsequently just got on the
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: cover of this year's Madden You know what that means
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: insert bone cracking sound here, lifted. Buffalo had their chances
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: back in the Kelly years, blew it, and they all
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: squander these years they have with Alan and choke some more,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: and just like Paulo says, it always works out for
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: the Patriots. Can you think of any other team that
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: has choked more ever in the history of the world.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about Buffalo this year. The Patriots are going
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: to re establish themselves as the class of the AFC
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: East and roll into the Super Bowl.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 5: Okay, you had me with like that. Don't worry about Buffalo,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 5: But when you get to that end that stuff.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: I think there are some questions about Buffalo. Yeah, I
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: think there are kind of a crossroads. But I would say,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: is it you know, I'll give you a controversial take.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: So the four, the four in a row that they lost, right,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: they choked four times, wide left, they choked once, yeah,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: wide left, wide right, whatever it was. Right, I was like,
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: that was a choke. They were better than the Giants,
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: nor would the other three games. They weren't better than
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: the team they lost to, especially the two Cowboys teams
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: right and last year. I think you could call that
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: a choke. That's a bad You can lose to Cincinnati
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: at home, like like Kansas City lost at Cincinnati at
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: home the year before, but you can't lose like that.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: They didn't they didn't show up. Yeah, the didn't come
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: to play. Now, I think there's some extenuating circumstances, but
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: that was a choke. I don't care, Like, I don't
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: care what Buffalo guys want to, you know, write it
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: off as.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 5: Taking some offfield stuff going on for that game.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, his guy, Mike's guy Diggs has been bitchy.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 5: For for a while. Then Josh Allen got broken up
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 5: with Oh really like two days before the game.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know that. He's rebounded pretty well, all right? Uh,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: Is that true? Yeah, punters quarterback? Did he tell you
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: that when you met him?
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 5: Because you guys are actually but she was with him
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 5: when I when I did it look like and it
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 5: looks and then that they gave the Patriots and and
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: they happened they broke up. Yeah, and and oh this
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 5: is like a whole rabbit hole that Bill's twitter has.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: That's not good news for Patriots. No, that's not good
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: news for Patriots fans.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 5: So we come on here and we talk about like
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 5: how you know, Bill and Mac don't talk to each other.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 5: They go on Bill's podcast and talk about Hailey Steinfeld
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: and like, is this good for Josh Allen that he's
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 5: dating Hailey Steinfeld? This is this is real?
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: His lady before the playoff game, his lady.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 5: Dramas all over Buffalo right now.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: I just also with him, Like I just anytime you're
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 4: going into a season with a quarterback who's like, you know,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 4: really you'd think on top of his game talking about
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 4: how he has to change his game and stop taking
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 4: chances and stuff like I just I wouldn't like that
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: if I was, you know, if I was a Buffalo
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 4: fan hearing that my quarterback is now in his own head,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 4: questioning how he's going to play, because I think some
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 4: of the times he's most dangerous is when he just
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 4: lets it rip, when he goes for it, you know.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 4: And I know it's dangerous, but I just wonder if
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 4: you're going to get a Josh Allen this year who's
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 4: questioning himself on top of guys like Digs starting to
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 4: be like, come on, like the window we like, this
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 4: is it we got to win?
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: Is their stadium is supposed to be open six That
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: was like a crazy little win in twenty twenty five.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 5: But it's a good point about their window. And their
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 5: window is now clearly and they'll be in it with
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen, I think until he he.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: Shows signs of not being able to fit play anymore.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 5: But I truly think that their window to maximize what
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 5: they can put around him is happening right now. And
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 5: his playing style it it's his playing side. It's like
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 5: Brett Favre right, like are you going to reel in
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 5: the Gunslinger? Or are you going to just live and
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 5: die with it? You know? And and they've been living
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 5: and dying with it and dying so uh.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: Boston Cream writes in congratulations to Evan on having a girlfriend.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: Eric could never so an obvious upgrade there.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: That's another good point. Kills it, kills it.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 5: Thanks.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: Let's see what are the base numbers if you were
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: to guess that mac Jones needs to get the fifth
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: year option from the team. So, like, how what's the
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: minimum he has to do performance wise for the Patriots
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: to say, Okay, we'll give you the option if.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 5: You combine Daniel Jones's entire production, Like, Ma's not going
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 5: to rush for six hundred yards, so add that to
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 5: his passing total. If he has the same year that
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 5: Daniel Jones had last year production wise, then he'll get
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 5: the fifth year option.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: Back in the day, the Super Bowl used to be on
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: at four o'clock.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 4: Now, this was the the game Brady was at. Is
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 4: that that?
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, the catch game?
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 4: The catch right?
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: I just love no, I I like I like Devin's
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: thing there of Daniel Jones because I think that's, you know,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: you're not asking him to be Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: You're asking him to do something average. And I think,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: chances are you guys are probably gonna be surprised. My answered.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: Chances are they they'll pick up his option.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 5: Well, just good to have the team control. Like, even
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 5: if you don't end up being the team that keeps
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 5: him on the fifth year option, just to have the
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 5: the option to keep him around is probably the smart thing.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 4: I'm just not hung up on stats, like I mean,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 4: it's fine, but like I don't have I'd much rather
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 4: have like see him, you know, go four in tune
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 4: the division, you know, like knock off Buffalo and knock
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 4: off Miami or knock off Kansas City. You know, just
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 4: get a game where your backs up against the wins
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 4: games like just show me that and show me you
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 4: know that you've got some clutching the reason.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 3: Win some games in different ways either reason from behind.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 5: I brought up Daniel Jones two because of the They're
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 5: the Giant season last year. The arrow was pointing in
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 5: the right direction for that team. I'm not a Daniel
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 5: Jones believer, but they won a playoff game that they
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: probably shouldn't have won right by beating Minnesota, and they're
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 5: they're headed in the right direction, you would think with Dable.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 5: So if that's the way that it looks in a
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 5: year from now, the Patriots win a playoff game, with
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 5: Mac Jones, and things are on the upward trajectory, I'd
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 5: feel pretty good about picking it.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: Up Speing fres though this may seem overly simplistic, but
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: maybe the lack of rising young leaders is an artifact
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: of the brain drain and lack of reliable leadership on
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: the coaching staff. If you rightly or wrongly think your
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: bosses are boobs, there's not much to emulate in, not
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: much motivation to even try. Wow, I mean, I'm sure.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: Look like it's all connected. I mean, I don't think
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 4: you can rule any any part of it out, just
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: like you can't put you know, one specific thing like
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 4: you know, it's it's all part of it. I mean,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 4: you've lost a lot of coaches over the years. You've
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 4: lost i mean upper management guy as you had Bill
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: going in seven.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: Different directions last year.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: It's you know, it's just it hasn't been what it
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 4: usually was, that established kind of hierarchy. Everything's covered, you
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 4: know who's doing what, and you know, I mean I
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 4: do think like you know, And this goes back to,
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 4: you know, to Paul's podcast with Pioli talking about you know,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 4: the slappies and stuff that we're on that you know,
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 4: you wonder are the Evan Rothsteins of the world or
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 4: you know, I think the DeMarcus Covington's of the world
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: certainly are are developing into that. You know, is this
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: the next level of those kind of coaches? And now,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: you know, and here in this year, in twenty twenty three,
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: are those guys have they now acquired enough experience where
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 4: he can just start getting some better returns?
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think Mike pael Green has.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 4: Done a really good job with with the cornerbacks that
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 4: he's been given and and you know, those guys have
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 4: all been pretty pretty productive, and you know, they just
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 4: they need more of it.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, I also would say, like why wouldn't that
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: like more encourage guys to be more if they if
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: they had questions about their coaching, which I don't really
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: think they do. I think they had questions about Matt
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: Patricia and Joe Judge being in Judge of the offense
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: last year, like let's not make this out to be
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: now that they're all surrounded by boobs. But if you
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: had questions about the coaching, you woul get wouldn't that
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: encourage you to be more apt to try to lead
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: like listen.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: It it depends, It depends on the guy. Like some guys
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: just give up what's the point, but other guys would lead.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: But see, now I've been critical of Mac, but I
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 3: think you could say a lot of things about how
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: Mac handled last year. Giving up is not one of
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: the things I would say about him.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: No, I think reaching out to the you know, Alabama,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: if it's true, is not a sign of giving up, right,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: a sign of doing whatever he thinks he needs.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: But I even think that whole thing of like the
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: quote unquote gang of five, that that's kind of a
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: sign of leadership, like we need to do it. Yeah,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: we need to do this because we're not doing it right.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: We need to do it this way, like in a
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: weird way, Kendrick.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: Bourne rather have a gang of fifty three.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: But no, no, no, But I'm just saying in terms
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 3: of this is more about a specific thing with Patricia
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 3: and Judge, but in a weird way with Kendrick Bourne,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 3: did if he was in meetings and they were teaching
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 3: the offense his offense and offense that he was familiar
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: with incorrectly in a weird way, He's that's leadership. Yeah,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: And I've been critical of Kendrick Porn too, but more
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 3: as a player, not necessarily because he wasn't happy with
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: the way that they were teaching stuff if he thought
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: if he thought they were teaching it wrong, and he
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 3: was voicing that, I think that's leadership.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: All right, quick? Who am my game?
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: Righty am?
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: I These are all Belichick era Patriots. I got a
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP truck despite not winning the award. Malcolm
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: Butler incorrect, although it might be correct, but this isn't
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: the one I caught Tom Brady's last touchdown as a Patriot.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 4: Josh Gordon, No, you can't guess again, Evan, you're out.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: And I split reps in high school with Giovanni Bernard
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: James White. James White is correct.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 5: I'm also right about Malcolm Butler, but I think you're right.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: But yeah, how did he How did James White get
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: a truck? Super Bowl truck?
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: I think Brady gave him his truck after the Seattle game.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 5: Now that was twenty eighty three.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 3: I think he's right. Twenty eight gave the truck to
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 3: Malcolm Butler.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: He gave a twenty eight three game.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 5: The twenty eight to three game would have been the
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 5: Seattle game, Falcons would have been I think Evans right.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: No, I know, right, so the game unless he did
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: it twice. I'm pretty sure he gave it to Butler
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: after the Seattle game.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: That's what I just said.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 3: Then you said twenty eight three. That's not the same game.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 5: No, I said twenty eight to three.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I missed because we are missing. I met
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: James Sattle.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: Don't made me go all eric on you.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, friend, I meant to see That's what I said.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: I meant the Seattle game.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 3: I think I think Evans right. Well, it could have
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: happened both times, you know how I always agree with that.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 3: Couldn't have happened both times.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 5: Patriots CB Malcolm Butler always keeps Super Bowl MVP truck.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah no, But but did he also give.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 3: Me also James White?
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: I don't know, but I'm gonna say I was right.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: I said, you didn't take Malcolm Butler's rock and give
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: it to James White.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: I said, you could be right, but it might have
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: been another time.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 4: That's that's twenty seventeen I took.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 5: So Tom Brady also gave one to James White twice
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 5: three Tom Brady, but apparently James White no longer has
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 5: said truck.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's see next one. I have played both offense
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: and defense for the Patriots. Julian could be wrong, so
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: you're out.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 3: That's why I didn't guess.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: I was a team captain for one season.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 4: One season.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: Finally, my one touchdown may or may not have been
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: a trick play, depending on if you were talking to
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: fred Or and Roberts.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 5: I knew it after the captain one, but I was out.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: That's a giveaway. I have been to one super Bowl
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: but lost. That could be a lot of people. I
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: caught my first touchdown reception from Jacoby Myers.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 4: Rex perkad incorrect.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: Think about it though, there eight thirty two or is
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: better than me.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 5: Kim Newton pass from Jacobin he did against Baltimore. Yeah,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 5: Kim Newton did yep, Yeah, yeah he did.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 3: No, I remember him throwing one to Birdhead. I mean
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: my mind that corner of the Yeah, in the far.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: Instances, you know, so you know, once Super Bowl it
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: was you immediately think, who are the Patriots? Right?
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 5: You know, but it's tricky.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, that's a good that the one super
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: Bowl and lost. That was a good little wrinkle.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: Yep, my father was also an NFL player.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 3: My father was also an NFL player.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: I am a Ron Burton Award winner.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 5: Wise incorrect, Matthew.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: Matthew Slater is correct because he eats a lot of dogs. Finally,
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: I left the Patriots for another team, but came back
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: after it didn't go well.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 5: Everybody.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a bit of a no one. I
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: cost the team two ot as because I'm a double
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: agent trying to deliberately sabotage the Patriot.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 3: Judge, double agent.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: He's just kidding, of course. Yeah, let's see what else.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: James McLeod our, resident artist, has a rendering of young
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: Evan speaking as Jesus in the Temple to all the people.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 3: I didn't make No, I did, oh proud.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if I'm sure that will lend
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: up on Twitter at some point.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd a good T shirt for Paul the other day.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 3: Uh what are we doing?
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: T shirt? Yeah?
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 3: I liked that we got to print those up.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: Josh from half Moon, New York writes in I have
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: two topics I like to bring up. My Patriots topic
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: is with the Patriots having plenty of cap space for
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: next off season, over one hundred million projected by over
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: the Cap. Do you see them spending any of that
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: with extensions this preseason or in or in season? And
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: who do you think would be in line for a
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: decent extension?
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Douger new chair definitely. I think
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 4: that's kind of mo for them too, is his extensions
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 4: are looked at maybe August September. I think Jonathan Jones
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 4: maybe a couple of years ago, got his.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 5: Chant on that time.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 4: And I think you get guys in you see how
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 4: they look in camp, and if you feel like the
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 4: trajectory is continuing of what you think on the guy,
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 4: then then that's usually when they make the move. But
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 4: you know, there't hasn't been a lot of those guys.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: Off season topic is mainly for Fred. My daughter will
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: be competing in a national dance competition being held in
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: Sandwich this summer, so we'll be out there for a week.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: I'd like to know the five best places to eat
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: in Sandwich. Wow, that's a lot. Yeah. So if you
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: want seafood, the way it goes it's bottom rung is
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: seafood SAMs good. But and then it goes the pilot
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: house and then it goes Fisherman's View. But if you
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: want fried chicken, you go to Seafood SAMs. It's a
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: hidden gym, seafood SAMs.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: And this is all in Sandwich, all in Sandwich.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: They're all down by the Marina, the canal there Belfrey.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: The Belfry is a good place. If you want Italian,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: you go to Tomatoes, not to be confused with Sweet Tomatoes,
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: which is a pizza place. You go to Tomatoes, great,
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: great Italian.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 4: I dated a girl from Sandwich briefly in college. To me,
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 4: we spent some time in the cool Sandwich Sandwich harbor.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't say what she looked like.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: Over under game ready? Ramandre Stevenson combined yards fifteen fifteen
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: fifty and fifty under.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 5: I'm going under.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say under, okay because of the added options team.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: Rushing yards nineteen fifty.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: What they rush for last year?
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 4: Wait, come on, I can tell you if you can give.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 3: Me the number from last ye because they were terrible
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 3: running team last year. I got you eighteen eighteen and change.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: I want to say, yeah, eighteen twelve. Yeah, I'm gonna
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 3: say over.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 5: I'm going to say over as well.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: Have to be better over the eighteen twelve Yeah, there
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: you go. Taekwon Thornton combined yards seven hundred and fifty com.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 5: Bind What what do you mean combined? Like he's gonna
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 5: get four hundred rushing?
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: It could have ends. Sweet, I'm going I'm going to
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: say under.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 4: But I think my my like realistic hope for him,
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 4: would you know be in the like fifty fifty catches
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 4: five six.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: Hundred team receiving yards forty one hundred.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 5: Such, just better be over. Passing yards are team receiving
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 5: because those are two different things.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, team receiving.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they don't have that on here. They threw
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 4: for thirty five hundred yards last year.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: Passing yards take sacks out of it, right, But I'm
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 3: going to say over has to be over. I'm going
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 3: to say, if I have to live to another year
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 3: where I watch an NFL team not be able to
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: throw the ball, no you won't have that. I don't
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 3: make enough of that twenty one Mac Jones touchdown twice
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: in the last three years. I had to sit through that.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: Mac Jones touchdowns versus interceptions twenty four to ten.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 5: He is twenty two and like twelve over.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: Say over, what does that mean, I'm going to say
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 3: over both, over twenty four and over ten.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to say twenty eight fourteen.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna say under ten. I think it's gonna be
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 5: better protecting the ball, but I'm gonna I'm gonna say
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 5: I'm under on both. I think they're going to run it.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: In defensive touchdowns eight, I gotta go under.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 19: There.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: Isn't that a lot?
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah year last year?
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, defensive interceptions twenty four.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 4: Got no streme of reference.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say. I'm going to say under. Yeah, they
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: had a lot last year.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: Average penalty yards per game forty five under punch really
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: under okay, and Parlo nods five.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 5: Oh that under under totally.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, they could be winning with like one minute left,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 4: and I think you'd be like, I don't know yet.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: We'll see what happens because they're tight.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 4: Other games are tight.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll give you the nod when I think
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 3: it's deserved.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 4: But yeah, would you ever give the nod to this
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 4: Patriots team in the first quarter of any game, even
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 4: if they were a first quarter?
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 3: No, not unless there was like snowing and the other
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: team look cold like the Arizona Cardinals in a way.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: Chris and Denmark has a public service announcement that the
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: tickets for the Germany games will be out on July eleventh.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: Oh so Patriots fancit tickets? Buy them up? We want to.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 5: I have gotten quite a few dms about I'm like, sorry,
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 5: I can't help you with that. Sorry, can you give
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 5: me that?
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 3: Media gush?
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: A little known fact according to Matt Cook, who's from Rochester.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: He says James White also got a truck from Conan
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: O'Brien after the twenty eight three Falcon super Bowl. This
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: was after he gave away the truck that Brady gave me.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't want a truck. Stop giving me truck, right,
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not a truck guy.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 5: I think he gave like the Brady truck to like charity,
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 5: like so like the boys and girl could use it something. Yeah,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 5: you know, James, it sound like he gave it away
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 5: to like his neighbors. Something is there?
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 3: Is there a newer media guy?
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 4: This is old? This is the nineteen that's the newest.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 4: That's the only one we got.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, I should break another one down here, though.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: Uh let's see David writes, and when we go undefeated
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: in the preseason, with future Hall of Fame quarterback Malie
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: Cunningham leading the charge, Could we finally get our undefeated
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: preseason champions t shirts? Or more likely, will the USPS
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: workers get to use those as a new uniform. That's
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: kind of a shot at Matt.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 4: That's like it would be interesting though. If Hopkins does
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 4: sign with the Titans, we'll get a up close look
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 4: at him there week three three three?
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 5: How come we can good guys like that Dustin Jack
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 5: Jones or.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 4: Something blows his knee out? Thank god I went the
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 4: other way.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 5: That was that was dark.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: This some Enrique who does really good trivia, right, have
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: some really good ones. Maybe we can fly through. We
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: got a few minutes. Rique's from Monterey. Question one, We
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: all know the largest Super Bowl blowouts were from the
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: an NFC team over an AFC team, and he lists
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: them all. But what AFC team holds the largest blowout
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: over an NFC team?
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 3: Raiders over Washington correct.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: Thirty eight nine and nineteen eighty three. Who is the
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: only player in NFL history to win a Heisman, an
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: NFL MVP, and a Super Bowl MVP? Desmond Howard, Not
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: at Desmond Howard no Heisman, NFL MVP and Super Bowl MVP.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: Marcus Allen, Oh, these are times. Yeah. Dallas versus Rams,
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: Now we gotta hurry. Dallas versus Rams, San Francisco versus
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: Green Bay in Dallas versus Francisco have played nine times
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: against each other in the playoffs, tied for the most
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: in NFL history. What AFC matchup has played each other
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: the most? Pat's Colts incorrect?
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 3: What is the question?
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: What AFC matchup have played the most in the playoffs?
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 4: Pat Steelers Nope.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 5: No, Raven Steelers Nope, Okay, I'm done.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: Denver, Denver and Pittsburgh eight times.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 5: Oh we had Steelers Denver and Pittsburgh.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember the Tebow one.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that was a great game.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 2: Two more questions. Two teams played each other a record
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 2: four consecutive years in the playoffs.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: What two teams played each other four years.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: In the playoffs?
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 20: Four?
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 4: You're doings Colts there.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: I'll give you a hint. The years were ninety five
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: through ninety ninety ninety six, ninety seven, and ninety eight.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: Denver incorrect, Green Bay and San Francisco.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 5: These are very obscure alday.
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  Speaker 2: Finally, since the merger in nineteen seventy. These two teams
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  Speaker 2: have faced each other twelve times. However, one of the
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  Speaker 2: teams has never beaten the other team, making it the
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  Speaker 2: only matchup in the history with that weird fact. They've
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  Speaker 2: played twelve times, but one team has never beat the other.
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  Speaker 5: Steelers Cardinals.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: The New York Jets have never beaten Philadelphia in twelve tries.
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  Speaker 5: They have another try this year.
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  Speaker 3: There's a loss, all right.
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