Latest / Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation / PGA DFS | Travelers Championship | 6/18/25 | Weather, Ownership, Lineup Construction and Q+A
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Yah Fall Systems going clear, lift up.
- 0:40Speaker 2: What's going on, golf fans. It's your boy g S Luke.
- 0:42Speaker 2: You're with our DFS live stream for the Travelers Championship.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Gonna get you guys ready for all of your lineups
- 0:47Speaker 2: for the look at the weather report. Some strategy for
- 0:50Speaker 2: this week. We'll talk through any player deep dives that
- 0:52Speaker 2: you've got for me in the chat. Some ownership in
- 0:54Speaker 2: large little GPPs as well as putting together a lineup
- 0:57Speaker 2: for two on draft Kings to go ahead and tie
- 0:59Speaker 2: it all together. But hopefully this week is treating everyone
- 1:02Speaker 2: out there nicely. You're ready to talk some golf out
- 1:04Speaker 2: there for this week and a c. We already got
- 1:06Speaker 2: a whole bunch of sweaty tryhards in the chat, including
- 1:08Speaker 2: my guys Go Collects, Joshuaba Hurt down there, Parker Carolina, Reaper,
- 1:13Speaker 2: Steven Ross, all of you guys that I see pretty
- 1:16Speaker 2: much every single live stream. It's great. Great to see
- 1:18Speaker 2: that you guys made it to this one. They got
- 1:21Speaker 2: rant Jack, Allen Deep Fat Nick down there as well.
- 1:24Speaker 2: Good to see that you made it to one of
- 1:26Speaker 2: these later night live streams. And we'll get after it
- 1:28Speaker 2: out here for this live stream. If you guys have
- 1:30Speaker 2: any questions for me, feel free to go ahead and
- 1:32Speaker 2: hit me up with those. We're gonna hold them off
- 1:34Speaker 2: until a little bit later on, though, so you can
- 1:36Speaker 2: fire on them at any point. We won't be getting
- 1:39Speaker 2: onto them until after we talk their ownership. But let's
- 1:41Speaker 2: get this thing started with a few orders of business
- 1:44Speaker 2: right off the bat. So the first thing that we're
- 1:46Speaker 2: going to talk about is this golf course, which frankly,
- 1:49Speaker 2: compared to Oakmont Country Club, is going to be a
- 1:51Speaker 2: night and day difference rather than a course where you
- 1:54Speaker 2: only have a minus one winner. And this could be
- 1:57Speaker 2: classified as your typical birdie fest. I would say something
- 2:00Speaker 2: in that minus fifteen to minus twenty range is what
- 2:03Speaker 2: we typically see winning around here. A birdie average over
- 2:06Speaker 2: four per round, it is closer to two to two
- 2:08Speaker 2: point five per round around Oakmont. In a bogey average
- 2:11Speaker 2: that's only about two point two per round. So that's
- 2:14Speaker 2: why it's going to have a very different sort of
- 2:16Speaker 2: feel to it, and the types of players that succeed
- 2:19Speaker 2: around this golf course are going to be vastly different
- 2:22Speaker 2: than what you have at major championships. It's not a
- 2:24Speaker 2: long golf course either, it is only sixty eight hundred
- 2:27Speaker 2: yards and bet the number site that I do a
- 2:29Speaker 2: lot of work with and that I use for a
- 2:31Speaker 2: lot of my analysis, you know, made by people that
- 2:33Speaker 2: work with tour players, that do strategy with a lot
- 2:36Speaker 2: of these guys around the tour, and they only have
- 2:38Speaker 2: eight of the fourteen holes as driver holes, so you're
- 2:40Speaker 2: not even going to hit that many big sticks around here.
- 2:43Speaker 2: And then they have this little Bomber's Paradise ranking which
- 2:46Speaker 2: essentially tells you whether it's playing towards distance or it's
- 2:49Speaker 2: playing towards accuracy. And it's only a three point four
- 2:52Speaker 2: out of ten in that category. And you can see
- 2:54Speaker 2: some of the specifics towards the top. But if you're
- 2:56Speaker 2: one of the shortest players in the field, you're actually
- 2:58Speaker 2: not getting that big of a penalty around here. A
- 3:00Speaker 2: lot of times this is closer to like one and
- 3:02Speaker 2: a half to three strokes that you're losing for that
- 3:04Speaker 2: much ringing that much shorter than the field. And then
- 3:06Speaker 2: the bomber opportunity a lot of times this is closer
- 3:09Speaker 2: to gaining like two strokes per round. You could see
- 3:12Speaker 2: only getting credit for like one point two shots gained
- 3:14Speaker 2: off the t for being that much longer than your
- 3:17Speaker 2: PGA Tour average player. That's why a lot of guys
- 3:20Speaker 2: like your players like Rory, your guys who hit the
- 3:22Speaker 2: ball a long way like mid Lee, Wyndham Clark except
- 3:25Speaker 2: for example, might not get as much of an advantage
- 3:28Speaker 2: around this course. So that's worth noting. From the course
- 3:31Speaker 2: fin angles, you're gonna see a lot more accuracy in
- 3:33Speaker 2: my modeling and the kind of players that I'm going after.
- 3:36Speaker 2: Does that mean that you have to only have players
- 3:38Speaker 2: that are accurate off the tee? Of course not. This
- 3:40Speaker 2: is just one piece of the puzzle that we're using.
- 3:43Speaker 2: But based on the data, you can see a pretty
- 3:45Speaker 2: clear emphasis and a pretty clear lean towards the accuracy side.
- 3:48Speaker 2: And then what I like to look out over here
- 3:50Speaker 2: would be our approach distribution. So this shows us the
- 3:53Speaker 2: kind of shots that players are having into the greens
- 3:56Speaker 2: and the notable one. There's really only one category that
- 3:58Speaker 2: stands out there. It'd be this one twenty six to
- 4:01Speaker 2: the one seventy five category where you can see over
- 4:03Speaker 2: eight shots per round are coming in those proximity buckets.
- 4:07Speaker 2: So if you're gonna look at anything for this golf
- 4:09Speaker 2: correspond striking wwise, it's you know, driving accuracy off the
- 4:13Speaker 2: tee and then that one twenty five to one seventy
- 4:14Speaker 2: five yard range when you're looking at approach stats, and
- 4:17Speaker 2: if you can find players that are accurate off the
- 4:19Speaker 2: tee and they hit a lot of greens, they gained
- 4:21Speaker 2: a bunch of strokes approach. When you look at those
- 4:24Speaker 2: kind of irons, then they're gonna be towards the top
- 4:26Speaker 2: of my exposure this weekend. Bet. The number gives you
- 4:28Speaker 2: a few other ways to kind of like really deep
- 4:30Speaker 2: dive the stats. But I would say, for the case
- 4:33Speaker 2: for your sake out there, when building your player poll,
- 4:36Speaker 2: driving accuracy mid to short irons would be the name
- 4:38Speaker 2: of the game for a lot of you guys out there.
- 4:41Speaker 2: On top of that, burdier better percentage when we get
- 4:43Speaker 2: to an easier golf course like this, and then also
- 4:46Speaker 2: because it's a peak guy design, you can also do
- 4:48Speaker 2: shots gained Pete Dye because he has quite a few
- 4:51Speaker 2: tracks that we use on the TJ Tour that he's built.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Outside of that, that's about it, I'd say from the
- 4:56Speaker 2: course fit angle, and the next thing we'll go through
- 4:58Speaker 2: would be the weather over the deck. Few rounds day
- 5:01Speaker 2: number one is where I think the biggest quote unquote
- 5:03Speaker 2: edge is going to be for the next few days,
- 5:05Speaker 2: because tomorrow morning looks really calm, and almost all these
- 5:08Speaker 2: different forecasts, so the first one we have here would
- 5:10Speaker 2: be this eighth triple R, which is calling for sub
- 5:12Speaker 2: ten miles an hour wind for pretty much the entire morning.
- 5:16Speaker 2: The wind gusts also not that substantial. They get a
- 5:18Speaker 2: little breezier towards the late part of the morning where
- 5:21Speaker 2: you could see them creeping to that fifteen to sixteen
- 5:23Speaker 2: mile an hour range. But when we take a look
- 5:25Speaker 2: at the afternoon forecast in this age triple R, and
- 5:29Speaker 2: this kind of trend is going to be held up
- 5:30Speaker 2: in the other models that we go through as well,
- 5:33Speaker 2: But rather than having sub ten miles an hour winds
- 5:35Speaker 2: for the entire morning, it's actually over ten miles an
- 5:38Speaker 2: hour for the entire afternoon. In fact, it gets close
- 5:41Speaker 2: to fifteen fourteen miles an hour for one point with
- 5:44Speaker 2: your sustained wins and then your wind gusts, which do
- 5:47Speaker 2: kick up a little bit towards the late morning, but
- 5:49Speaker 2: are still fifteen miles an hour and lower are twenty
- 5:52Speaker 2: to twenty five even thirty miles an hour towards the
- 5:55Speaker 2: very end of the day, so your wins are going
- 5:57Speaker 2: to be a little bit more substantial in those pm
- 6:00Speaker 2: It's something else that they had up here in Connecticut
- 6:03Speaker 2: is that they had some rain on Monday and Tuesday,
- 6:05Speaker 2: which is gonna soften up the golf course. It was
- 6:08Speaker 2: already a soft time of the year for TBC River Highlands,
- 6:11Speaker 2: but that combined to the fact that the wind the
- 6:14Speaker 2: sunny conditions are gonna drive this place out in the
- 6:16Speaker 2: afternoon has me thinking that tomorrow the morning guys are
- 6:19Speaker 2: gonna get at least probably a half a stroke advantage,
- 6:22Speaker 2: or at least something close to a half a stroke advantage,
- 6:25Speaker 2: if not with the possibility to have a slightly more
- 6:28Speaker 2: substantial edge than that. And I don't think it's gonna
- 6:31Speaker 2: be very drastic for Friday. In fact, they may actually
- 6:33Speaker 2: give up some of that edge when we take a
- 6:35Speaker 2: look at the forecast for Friday afternoon. But if you're
- 6:38Speaker 2: looking at any sort of weather for the first few days,
- 6:40Speaker 2: I would say Round one showdown, just playing some of
- 6:43Speaker 2: the morning or earlier starters for tomorrow would be the
- 6:45Speaker 2: biggest edge that we have for these first few rounds
- 6:48Speaker 2: and while the tea times aren't set up in waves,
- 6:50Speaker 2: you don't have a first versus the second half. It
- 6:52Speaker 2: is just continuous two sums. Sorry, yeah, I think two
- 6:56Speaker 2: sums off of the first tea you're not gonna have
- 6:58Speaker 2: like an opportunity to go like, okay, I only want
- 7:01Speaker 2: that side of the tee times. But the earlier the
- 7:03Speaker 2: tea time tomorrow, I think the better if you're looking
- 7:06Speaker 2: at your exposure. So for example, if you have somebody
- 7:08Speaker 2: that's like a late morning starter closer to like nine
- 7:11Speaker 2: thirty ten o'clock, and you're comparing them to somebody that's
- 7:13Speaker 2: closer to a one one thirty pm start. Let's say
- 7:16Speaker 2: that all things are equal. You know, neither player is
- 7:18Speaker 2: a perfect tea time. The first tea times are about
- 7:21Speaker 2: eight a m. Eastern time tomorrow. Those would be the
- 7:23Speaker 2: ideal players from that perspective. But if you are just
- 7:26Speaker 2: trying to break a tie on some players, trying to
- 7:29Speaker 2: use that to your advantage with show with showdown, I
- 7:32Speaker 2: think that's the better way to go out there and
- 7:33Speaker 2: play that. And you know, when we take a look
- 7:35Speaker 2: at this Friday forecast, which I don't really see anything
- 7:38Speaker 2: for either side, you know that's why. I don't think
- 7:40Speaker 2: it's the sort of edge for mainslate and for your
- 7:43Speaker 2: actual like full event lineups where you'd want to go
- 7:45Speaker 2: and only play guys that are going off early. But
- 7:48Speaker 2: just like I was saying for Showdown, where like if
- 7:50Speaker 2: you're trying to break a tie, trying to figure out
- 7:52Speaker 2: whether you want to play one guy at sixty seven
- 7:53Speaker 2: hundred dollars or another player that's going off a little
- 7:56Speaker 2: bit earlier at that same price tag, maybe that's when
- 7:59Speaker 2: you and corporate this sort of a weather edge. But
- 8:01Speaker 2: I think Thursday is the day we're gonna get that
- 8:04Speaker 2: separation because when we go over to the Friday forecast,
- 8:07Speaker 2: which has not completely loaded in the morning, doesn't look
- 8:10Speaker 2: as ideal as before, and they're not starting to about
- 8:13Speaker 2: eight am. So though it does look calm around six
- 8:15Speaker 2: to seven on this Friday forecast, they're not starting until
- 8:19Speaker 2: the wind is already kicked up. And if it's gonna
- 8:21Speaker 2: be ten to twelve miles an hour on Friday morning,
- 8:24Speaker 2: a little bit gustier as well in that twenty to
- 8:26Speaker 2: twenty five mile an hour range, we haven't had the
- 8:29Speaker 2: entire forecast fload in yet, so it might still get
- 8:32Speaker 2: a little bit more drastic in the PM. If it's
- 8:34Speaker 2: gonna be pretty flat the entire day and Friday and
- 8:37Speaker 2: it doesn't look like there's gonna be a massive edge
- 8:39Speaker 2: either way, I think the only real separation might be
- 8:42Speaker 2: for tomorrow's round. So that's why I'm saying you might
- 8:45Speaker 2: want to use that as you know, a tiebreaker on
- 8:48Speaker 2: some plays, but unless it's a double sided edge, And
- 8:50Speaker 2: what I mean by that is that you know one
- 8:52Speaker 2: side of the draw is getting the edge one day
- 8:54Speaker 2: and on the other side of it. I'm not normally
- 8:57Speaker 2: going all in on any sort of lineups, and that's
- 8:59Speaker 2: the kind of situation that we're in on this week.
- 9:01Speaker 2: It's only a half edge for one of the two days,
- 9:04Speaker 2: so you can use it when you're trying to find
- 9:07Speaker 2: the last few players that you're getting into your player poll.
- 9:09Speaker 2: That I think anything more than that might be doing
- 9:11Speaker 2: a little bit too much. And if we take a
- 9:13Speaker 2: look at some of these other models, the HRDPS hasn't
- 9:16Speaker 2: really loaded in enough yet. You can look at the
- 9:18Speaker 2: NAM model. This one looks almost completely flat. In fact,
- 9:22Speaker 2: the highest winds towards the middle of the day on
- 9:24Speaker 2: this forecast. So this is another one where the real
- 9:27Speaker 2: separation would be on Thursday, and I like to go
- 9:30Speaker 2: to the GFS two that's one of the more prominent models,
- 9:33Speaker 2: and this one does look like the wins could be
- 9:35Speaker 2: a little bit higher from the wind gust perspective for
- 9:38Speaker 2: the first half of the day, but the sustained winds
- 9:41Speaker 2: do look a little bit nastier and the PM over
- 9:43Speaker 2: there too. So you know, based on all the information
- 9:46Speaker 2: that we have available, I don't see the kind of
- 9:48Speaker 2: weather edge for mainslate that you have to overly incorporate
- 9:52Speaker 2: into your lineups if you want to shade towards the
- 9:54Speaker 2: AMPM wave. Just hope that the edge tomorrow morning ends
- 9:57Speaker 2: up being like a one stroke advantage, which you know,
- 10:00Speaker 2: if it's a whole stroke tomorrow, that could be enough
- 10:02Speaker 2: for those first half of tea times to be the
- 10:05Speaker 2: side that you want to have in your main slate exposure.
- 10:08Speaker 2: But don't be surprised even if there is a one
- 10:10Speaker 2: stroke advantage that two, maybe even three players from the
- 10:13Speaker 2: wrong side of tea times ends up getting there, because
- 10:16Speaker 2: what you'll see if you take a look at the
- 10:17Speaker 2: top end of the pricing is that a lot of
- 10:19Speaker 2: the guys that are in the eight, nine, ten k range,
- 10:22Speaker 2: especially are players that are teeing off after like eleven o'clock,
- 10:26Speaker 2: so you're not gonna be able to take a lot
- 10:27Speaker 2: of the top end of the board if you're going
- 10:29Speaker 2: with that kind of strategy, which is why for mainslate,
- 10:33Speaker 2: it's not something that I'm going out there and stacking
- 10:35Speaker 2: for myself. So that's the weather situation. Once again, for
- 10:38Speaker 2: Round one Showdown, I think the spot to really attack it,
- 10:41Speaker 2: and I am adding some Round one Showdown exposure. I
- 10:44Speaker 2: usually don't play Round one Showdown, but because of the
- 10:47Speaker 2: facts that I think the weather could be a little
- 10:50Speaker 2: bit of an added bonus on top, I'm gonna throw
- 10:52Speaker 2: in at least a couple single entries for the Thursday slate.
- 10:55Speaker 2: So that's what I've got for the weather. We'll get
- 10:57Speaker 2: to your questions here in just a minute or two. Lastly,
- 11:00Speaker 2: before we do so, though, I do want to go
- 11:01Speaker 2: through ownership for this week, so any player deep dives
- 11:04Speaker 2: that you've got, you guys can throw those in the chat.
- 11:06Speaker 2: Any sort of questions too. We're going to go through
- 11:09Speaker 2: after we go through the top end of ownership, just
- 11:11Speaker 2: to give you guys an idea of exactly where the
- 11:13Speaker 2: field is coming in. We're going to go through the
- 11:15Speaker 2: top sixteen highest stoned players on the slate and maybe
- 11:19Speaker 2: what you should be thinking about when you're considering playing
- 11:22Speaker 2: or not playing somebody at that ownership. So you can
- 11:24Speaker 2: see number one, Scotty Shuffler at thirty six point two percent.
- 11:27Speaker 2: That's where I have them in my projections, which by
- 11:29Speaker 2: the way, guys, this sheet is from my projections, not
- 11:32Speaker 2: the ship at Nation site, So just a little bit
- 11:34Speaker 2: of a disclaimer there all the way down to Aaron Rye,
- 11:36Speaker 2: who is the number sixteen player when it comes to
- 11:39Speaker 2: projected ownership. So let's go through this and give you
- 11:42Speaker 2: guys an idea. So the first part would be Scotty
- 11:45Speaker 2: Shuffler at about thirty six percent. I think everyone kind
- 11:48Speaker 2: of knew that he'd be your highest zones player on
- 11:50Speaker 2: the slate. And at thirteen thousand dollars, that means that
- 11:53Speaker 2: a third of lineups are going to be spending a
- 11:55Speaker 2: whole thirteen thousand dollars for just one of their six players.
- 11:59Speaker 2: So not only does that sort of have sort of
- 12:02Speaker 2: lineup have ramifications on lineups that have Scotti Shuffler, but
- 12:06Speaker 2: it's gonna impact ownership in general. You're gonna see a
- 12:08Speaker 2: lot of people going down to Scotti Shuffler and having
- 12:11Speaker 2: to take guys in the six k range to make
- 12:13Speaker 2: that work with the salary component. So what you see
- 12:16Speaker 2: in the top end of the six k range is
- 12:18Speaker 2: that there's some chocky players that are closer to five
- 12:21Speaker 2: to seven even eight percent ownership that we normally wouldn't
- 12:24Speaker 2: see down there in that six k range. So he's
- 12:26Speaker 2: a by far the most popular player on the slate.
- 12:29Speaker 2: And what'll say is that you don't even have to
- 12:31Speaker 2: get that much leverage on Scotty Shuffler if you're using
- 12:33Speaker 2: them just for a full transparency sake. With the live stream,
- 12:37Speaker 2: I'm using Scottie Shuffler and almost exactly the field rate.
- 12:41Speaker 2: I'm just copying the field. I'm not letting them sink
- 12:43Speaker 2: or make my week great really in either direction. Right,
- 12:46Speaker 2: If he has a great week and pays off, I'm
- 12:48Speaker 2: not gonna have anything over the field, so it's not
- 12:49Speaker 2: gonna help me out all that much. But if he
- 12:52Speaker 2: goes out there and has a terrible week, I'm also
- 12:54Speaker 2: still gonna have plenty of lineups to have and attack it.
- 12:56Speaker 2: And a lot of times I do get my leverage
- 12:58Speaker 2: with Scottie Shuffler. But on a week like this where
- 13:01Speaker 2: there are guys in that nine to ten K range
- 13:03Speaker 2: that I really like, I mean, I've outright in a
- 13:05Speaker 2: few cases, I just can't overly invest myself into Scotty
- 13:09Speaker 2: Shuffler up top, especially at that kind of price tag
- 13:12Speaker 2: where it takes you off a lot of those eight
- 13:13Speaker 2: to nine K options. So Scotty Shuffler, by far the
- 13:17Speaker 2: highest ooned player on the slate, you can make an
- 13:19Speaker 2: argument for a full fade at that sort of ownership.
- 13:22Speaker 2: He's by far the highest owned player on the slate,
- 13:24Speaker 2: but he could also make a great argument that he's
- 13:27Speaker 2: the world number one, by far the best projecting player
- 13:30Speaker 2: on the slate, and you could argue for locking him
- 13:32Speaker 2: as well. So I think anything between zero to one
- 13:35Speaker 2: hundred percent on Scotty Shuffler, I could see an argument
- 13:39Speaker 2: for really any sort of exposure that you're getting to
- 13:41Speaker 2: just know what you're getting yourself into. Know that if
- 13:44Speaker 2: you're playing him in thirty forty percent of lineups, that
- 13:46Speaker 2: that is going to be about the field average, and
- 13:49Speaker 2: that you're not going to be getting any sort of
- 13:51Speaker 2: leverage if you're doing so. So if you are trying
- 13:53Speaker 2: to get that leverage, you probably went closer to sixty
- 13:56Speaker 2: sixty five percent exposure. If you're trying to get close
- 13:59Speaker 2: to that two x number, and if you're fading them
- 14:01Speaker 2: and you are taking zero percent right there, well that's
- 14:04Speaker 2: almost forty percent of the field right there that you're
- 14:06Speaker 2: boxing out, just based on one player alone. So worth
- 14:10Speaker 2: noting that it is a spot that can make your
- 14:13Speaker 2: break your week if you let it, But it doesn't
- 14:15Speaker 2: have to be that sort of spot either. Hence, if
- 14:18Speaker 2: you take the strategy that I'm using outside of that,
- 14:20Speaker 2: your second hind Stone player would be a Victor Hobland
- 14:23Speaker 2: at seventeen and a half percent, which I will say
- 14:26Speaker 2: for your second high Stone player to be a nine
- 14:28Speaker 2: K range almost an eight K range player shows that
- 14:31Speaker 2: he's a lot higher round than the guys around him.
- 14:33Speaker 2: You can see like number three and four or ten
- 14:36Speaker 2: k guys like a Xander, a Morcawa. The top end
- 14:38Speaker 2: of the board is always going to get a lot
- 14:40Speaker 2: higher ownership by default, just because people spend all of
- 14:43Speaker 2: their salary, they don't like to leave a lot on
- 14:45Speaker 2: the table, So you're going to see people taking those
- 14:47Speaker 2: guys a lot more than the seven and eight K players,
- 14:50Speaker 2: you also have less options. There's less players in the
- 14:53Speaker 2: ten K range than what you have, and a lot
- 14:55Speaker 2: of those other price ranges. So when you have a
- 14:57Speaker 2: Hoblins or even a Kegan Bradley for that matter, at
- 15:00Speaker 2: sixteen percent, he's only eighty five hundred dollars, you've got
- 15:03Speaker 2: to realize that there are options in the eight K
- 15:05Speaker 2: range top into the eight K range even that you
- 15:08Speaker 2: can take it half or almost half the ownership of
- 15:11Speaker 2: players like a Hobblind and a Bradley. And that's not
- 15:14Speaker 2: to say that I'm fading both of them. In fact,
- 15:16Speaker 2: of those two players, I'm using one of those two
- 15:18Speaker 2: in my player poll. But of these guys that are
- 15:21Speaker 2: in the top sixteen highest owned players, there are plenty
- 15:24Speaker 2: that I'm not using in my lineup. So unless you
- 15:27Speaker 2: love somebody that you see on this top sixteen list,
- 15:30Speaker 2: you might want to consider making them a spot that
- 15:32Speaker 2: you're getting different against the field. With Xander amor Kawi
- 15:36Speaker 2: here by the way, at about seventeen percent ownership, I
- 15:39Speaker 2: wouldn't even say that they're quote unquote chalk at those
- 15:41Speaker 2: sort of numbers because they're really only getting that ownership
- 15:43Speaker 2: because of their price tag. If you're using them as
- 15:46Speaker 2: pivots off of Scottie Scheffler, you're actually getting quite a
- 15:50Speaker 2: bit of differentiation if you're choosing to do so. So
- 15:53Speaker 2: that's why I wouldn't really classify them in that same
- 15:55Speaker 2: category as let's say a Victor Hobland or a Kegan Bradley.
- 15:59Speaker 2: If we can tinue going down further, Tommy Fleetwood is
- 16:02Speaker 2: also getting a little bit of steam, but a little
- 16:05Speaker 2: bit less than a hovelin to Bradley, so he's still
- 16:08Speaker 2: I would say, a little chalky at eighty nine hundred dollars,
- 16:10Speaker 2: but he's not overly popular. A Ben Griffin, though, he
- 16:14Speaker 2: is a little bit lower in terms of raw ownership
- 16:16Speaker 2: when he compared him Tommy Fleetwood, but he's only eighty
- 16:19Speaker 2: one hundred dollars. So just like we said, the further
- 16:22Speaker 2: down the board that you go, the lower the average
- 16:25Speaker 2: ownership is going to be. So a Ben Griffin at
- 16:28Speaker 2: eighty one hundred being fifteen percent owned is double sometimes
- 16:32Speaker 2: even two and a half to three times ownership than
- 16:35Speaker 2: some of the other guys that you have around them.
- 16:37Speaker 2: So these are the kind of guys that unless you
- 16:39Speaker 2: just you think he's a fantastic play one of the
- 16:41Speaker 2: best projections in that range, you might want to consider
- 16:44Speaker 2: getting off of a lot of these guys, and all
- 16:46Speaker 2: the guys we mentioned, like a Keegan Hovelin's Ben Griffin, like,
- 16:49Speaker 2: there are some of them that I am still using
- 16:50Speaker 2: despite that. Usually the players that I was on on
- 16:53Speaker 2: a Monday that I really liked, I'll still use even
- 16:56Speaker 2: if they have that kind of ownership. But if they
- 16:58Speaker 2: were marginal plays. If I'm still trying to round out
- 17:00Speaker 2: my player pool on a Wednesday like I do this morning,
- 17:02Speaker 2: right and the morning Wednesday morning is kind of when
- 17:04Speaker 2: I'm figuring out exactly where all my exposure is going
- 17:06Speaker 2: to come in after I have all my accurate ownership projections.
- 17:10Speaker 2: Guys like Ben Griffin, if he wasn't already down as
- 17:12Speaker 2: a yes before, I'm doing that kind of exercise, this
- 17:15Speaker 2: little to no chance that he's sneaking into my player
- 17:18Speaker 2: pol So, just to be bluntly transparent about it, he
- 17:21Speaker 2: was not one of those players. I didn't have him
- 17:23Speaker 2: down as a yes beforehand, so when I saw fifteen
- 17:26Speaker 2: percent projected ownership, he was a no go for me.
- 17:28Speaker 2: Except Struca Sam Burns. They are getting some steam at
- 17:32Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen percent. You can't completely ignore that, but end
- 17:35Speaker 2: that nine K range, that's really not the worst ownership.
- 17:38Speaker 2: Like I can't lay, for example, at fourteen percent because
- 17:41Speaker 2: he's ninety eight hundred dollars of Rory mclroy at about
- 17:45Speaker 2: thirteen point nine percent himself. Those actually don't have to
- 17:48Speaker 2: worry about so much. You do have to look about it.
- 17:51Speaker 2: You look at the ownership a bit. When it's like
- 17:52Speaker 2: a McIntyre at fourteen percent, maybe even like a Henley
- 17:56Speaker 2: at thirteen and a half percent, he's a little bit
- 17:58Speaker 2: higher round than some of the other guys in that
- 18:00Speaker 2: K range. But the guys that you really really have
- 18:03Speaker 2: to worry about with ownership, and the reason why I
- 18:05Speaker 2: took it down the whole way to the top sixteen
- 18:07Speaker 2: highest un players. I know, an odd number, right, but
- 18:10Speaker 2: I wanted to include some of these seven K guys
- 18:12Speaker 2: that were getting all that kind of steam because they're
- 18:14Speaker 2: only like and I say only in quotes like ten
- 18:17Speaker 2: to thirteen percent out in all three cases right here.
- 18:21Speaker 2: But comparatively, the average ownership in that range is closer
- 18:24Speaker 2: to like five to seven percent. They're double sometimes even
- 18:27Speaker 2: three four times higher round than some of the other
- 18:30Speaker 2: players around them. And I'll say that of these bottom
- 18:33Speaker 2: three players, and I'm using one of the three in
- 18:35Speaker 2: my player pool, but the other two, especially because they
- 18:38Speaker 2: weren't guys that I was on early on a Monday,
- 18:40Speaker 2: we're just automatic cross off spots for me, because unless
- 18:43Speaker 2: you love somebody that's twelve thirteen percent ounts, you probably
- 18:47Speaker 2: don't want to use them, because to get leverage, it's
- 18:49Speaker 2: not quite as bad as a Scottie shuffler. You got
- 18:52Speaker 2: to use in sixty five seventy percent of your lineups
- 18:54Speaker 2: to have any sort of a stance versus the rest
- 18:57Speaker 2: of the field. But in these guys, it's like twenty
- 18:59Speaker 2: five thirty percent exposure that you have to use to
- 19:01Speaker 2: use that to get that leverage. That's asking a lot
- 19:04Speaker 2: from a scrub that's down in that seven K range,
- 19:06Speaker 2: And there's no six k guys that we had making
- 19:08Speaker 2: that top sixteen. I believe you have to go just
- 19:11Speaker 2: outside the top twenty of the pricing, outside of the
- 19:13Speaker 2: top twenty of ownership to start to find players in
- 19:16Speaker 2: that six k range. But the further down the board
- 19:19Speaker 2: that you go, the more and more the ownership becomes
- 19:21Speaker 2: a factor, and the more and more you want to
- 19:24Speaker 2: consider getting off of some of those plays that are
- 19:26Speaker 2: getting that kind of ownership. So that's the ownership angle.
- 19:29Speaker 2: That's the top end of the board. Again, guys, if
- 19:31Speaker 2: you guys want to find all of my projections, my
- 19:33Speaker 2: entire player poll that I'm using for this week, that
- 19:35Speaker 2: can be found on my patren page And to get
- 19:38Speaker 2: a link to that, you guys can go to my
- 19:39Speaker 2: x slash Twitter that is gspdfs and it is in
- 19:42Speaker 2: the bio of my account, so you guys can find
- 19:45Speaker 2: that over there. What we're going to do next though,
- 19:47Speaker 2: is go through any questions and any player deep dives
- 19:49Speaker 2: that you've got. So what we're going to do for
- 19:51Speaker 2: these is we have shots gain metrics to go through.
- 19:53Speaker 2: Also some event history recent form that we're going to
- 19:57Speaker 2: use for these questions. And you guys know the drill
- 20:00Speaker 2: the right. It's gonna be process s based. I'm gonna
- 20:01Speaker 2: give you a lot of pros and cons with the
- 20:03Speaker 2: players that you're spitballing and throwing past me, and uh,
- 20:07Speaker 2: it'll give you a good idea whether or not you
- 20:09Speaker 2: should play a guy or not. So hit me up
- 20:10Speaker 2: with any of those and then afterwards we're going to
- 20:12Speaker 2: talk through some strategy. So let's see. So it said
- 20:15Speaker 2: thoughts on Grazerman slash Glover in that six k range,
- 20:18Speaker 2: So I would say Glover's ball striking is always something
- 20:21Speaker 2: that's gonna stand out to me, especially because I'm a
- 20:23Speaker 2: ball striking truther, and over the last twenty four rounds
- 20:27Speaker 2: it's kind of held up. I got to say. The
- 20:29Speaker 2: off the teep he played, though, has left a lot
- 20:31Speaker 2: to be desired. Grazier Men has been trending in the
- 20:34Speaker 2: right direction though. So if we bring up Grazermen here,
- 20:37Speaker 2: if I stop highlighting something, we can find him. He's
- 20:40Speaker 2: doing the same thing gaming across all four stack categories.
- 20:43Speaker 2: But uh, prior this year, like the first one to
- 20:46Speaker 2: two months of twenty twenty five, he was losing a
- 20:48Speaker 2: bunch of strikes to the field. He was not playing
- 20:50Speaker 2: his best golf. If you take a look the last
- 20:52Speaker 2: twelve measured rounds on Grayzeman, a lot of the stats
- 20:55Speaker 2: that you see to the right over here get even
- 20:57Speaker 2: better the smaller sample size that you look at. He's
- 21:00Speaker 2: trending in the positive direction. He's becoming one of the
- 21:03Speaker 2: better players that you have in a lot of these fields. Again,
- 21:06Speaker 2: love Grazerman. Do you think the ownership's starting to get there? Though?
- 21:09Speaker 2: There was a point on Grazierman where you could take
- 21:11Speaker 2: him at sub three percent and a lot of these
- 21:13Speaker 2: shepps because he was playing that poorly and people don't
- 21:16Speaker 2: love playing guys that are in bad form. That's just
- 21:19Speaker 2: the kind of the general role of thumb that a
- 21:21Speaker 2: lot of the public uses. Now, because he's starting to
- 21:24Speaker 2: come around, you're gonna be seeing him at like five
- 21:26Speaker 2: to ten percent and a lot of those GPPs this week,
- 21:29Speaker 2: So if you're okay taking a five to ten percenter
- 21:31Speaker 2: into Part of the reason for that too, by the way,
- 21:34Speaker 2: was the Scotty effect that I mentioned right off the bat.
- 21:37Speaker 2: When you have a thirteen thousand dollars golfer that's like
- 21:40Speaker 2: thirty six percent owns, you're gonna have to use a
- 21:42Speaker 2: lot of these guys in the top end of the
- 21:43Speaker 2: six k range to make those lineups work. So if
- 21:46Speaker 2: you're using Scotty Shuffler those kind of lineups, he might
- 21:49Speaker 2: be closer to like ten to fifteen percent owns and
- 21:51Speaker 2: those kind of combinations. So just keep that in mind.
- 21:54Speaker 2: I would say in those kind of builds that I
- 21:56Speaker 2: might prefer Glover just a little bit more because he's
- 21:59Speaker 2: super cheap. He gives you a little bit more salary flexibility.
- 22:03Speaker 2: And I don't think as many people that start with
- 22:05Speaker 2: Scotty you're gonna go the whole way to the bottom
- 22:07Speaker 2: end of the board. I think it's going to be
- 22:08Speaker 2: more so this top into the six k range guys
- 22:11Speaker 2: that are getting that scheme, not so much a player
- 22:13Speaker 2: like Glover down there at the bottom. So hopefully that
- 22:15Speaker 2: gives you the information you were looking for there. Let's
- 22:18Speaker 2: see what's going on. Ross says, let's talk some birdies.
- 22:21Speaker 2: That's for damn sure. What do I think about Burger
- 22:23Speaker 2: as an outright bet or a first round leader bet?
- 22:26Speaker 2: So tea time wise, let me actually double check that
- 22:29Speaker 2: on Burger, that'd probably have a lot to do with
- 22:30Speaker 2: his first round leader chances if he's gotten early enough
- 22:33Speaker 2: t time. I believe just off memory, he was close
- 22:35Speaker 2: to like eleven, but let's get the exact number here
- 22:38Speaker 2: real quick. I'd be more towards like an outright bet
- 22:41Speaker 2: if that's the case. So, yeah, he's gotten eleven eleven
- 22:43Speaker 2: start time. He could technically still be first round leader
- 22:47Speaker 2: around there, but I'd prefer first round leader shots and
- 22:50Speaker 2: guys starting around like eight or nine AM, I would
- 22:52Speaker 2: say in terms of an outright bet, though, if you're
- 22:55Speaker 2: getting fifty to one or more, I saw some sportsbooks
- 22:58Speaker 2: for juicing them down a lot more than that though,
- 23:00Speaker 2: So for example, on hard rock bet he was thirty
- 23:02Speaker 2: to one, I wouldn't bet him at that sort of number.
- 23:04Speaker 2: But if you're getting fifty to one, which are more
- 23:07Speaker 2: than that, probably even sixty to one would be the
- 23:09Speaker 2: fair number on him, then I think it'd be a
- 23:11Speaker 2: decent sprinkle because he fits the mold that I'm looking
- 23:14Speaker 2: for in players. The driving accuracy that we mentioned during
- 23:17Speaker 2: the course breakdown section and that one twenty five to
- 23:19Speaker 2: one seventy five yard range, he's top twenty five in
- 23:22Speaker 2: both buckets. In terms of accuracy, he's top ten in
- 23:24Speaker 2: the field and the approach play in a lot of
- 23:26Speaker 2: those one twenty five to one fifty then also one
- 23:29Speaker 2: fifty to one seventy five, he's top twenty five in
- 23:31Speaker 2: both of those, So that's a I can't I can't
- 23:34Speaker 2: say too much negative about him. I think he's a
- 23:36Speaker 2: really good player this week, just getting some of that ownership,
- 23:39Speaker 2: like you can see there in the top sixteen he said,
- 23:42Speaker 2: thanks for all I do. I appreciate you Allan, thanks
- 23:44Speaker 2: for all the kind words. He said, Colas speaking to
- 23:47Speaker 2: you as a low owned punts would love to hear
- 23:49Speaker 2: my thoughts. So you got the little ownership part correct.
- 23:52Speaker 2: He's going to be at least in my projection, sub
- 23:54Speaker 2: five percent. So if you're using him, you're getting a
- 23:57Speaker 2: bunch of differentiation right there, just on one play alone.
- 24:01Speaker 2: The reason for that, though, we do have to point
- 24:03Speaker 2: out the negatives when you have somebody that's super low
- 24:05Speaker 2: owned is the form the last two events he's averaging
- 24:08Speaker 2: like negative two shots gained to loss per round, which
- 24:11Speaker 2: is really hard for a lot of people to overlook.
- 24:13Speaker 2: That's why he's gonna be so low owned. But if
- 24:16Speaker 2: you're going to take a shot on somebody that is
- 24:18Speaker 2: being a little bit overlooked, it's on somebody that's a
- 24:20Speaker 2: good course fit. Right. If you're going to take a
- 24:23Speaker 2: shot in the dark and somebody who's not hitting the
- 24:24Speaker 2: golf ball, well you do it on a spot that
- 24:26Speaker 2: might be a little bit more comfortable for them. And
- 24:29Speaker 2: that's what you have at TPC River Highlands. It's only
- 24:31Speaker 2: sixty eight hundred yards. He's not an elite tier driver
- 24:34Speaker 2: of the golf ball. So you know, I don't like
- 24:36Speaker 2: his chances at a PGA Championship or a US Open
- 24:38Speaker 2: set up all that often, but I do like his
- 24:41Speaker 2: chances around this sort of golf course. So you know,
- 24:44Speaker 2: if he's speaking to you, it's super low ownership. I
- 24:46Speaker 2: would say, you know, I wouldn't talk you off of him.
- 24:48Speaker 2: Just use him in the right fashion, use him as
- 24:51Speaker 2: a piece that you're differentiating with. I just wouldn't make
- 24:54Speaker 2: him a core piece of your exposure, Like unless you're
- 24:57Speaker 2: totally fine, you're totally sold on his course fit this week.
- 25:00Speaker 2: It's more of a play that you sprinkle in into
- 25:02Speaker 2: a few spots so that you could use chalk elsewhere.
- 25:05Speaker 2: Like if you have let's say, a Daniel Berger and
- 25:08Speaker 2: Aaron Raye cam Young that we're getting that sort of steam,
- 25:11Speaker 2: it could be offset with that sort of player. Real easy.
- 25:14Speaker 2: We got Nick down there. What's up. By the way,
- 25:16Speaker 2: I'm doing well myself. It's a Wednesday, so I'm excited.
- 25:20Speaker 2: And we got a little prop stream after this as well.
- 25:22Speaker 2: By the way, guys, so if you guys have any
- 25:23Speaker 2: prop questions or any underdog and price pick stuff, you
- 25:26Speaker 2: want to throw by me. You're gonna be doing a
- 25:28Speaker 2: show on my YouTube channel at eight pm Eastern time,
- 25:30Speaker 2: so you guys want to stop on buy for that.
- 25:32Speaker 2: Later on, Sousumo says that you won big last weekend
- 25:37Speaker 2: thanks to me. Love to hear that I didn't have
- 25:40Speaker 2: as good of a week, actually lost a little bit
- 25:42Speaker 2: of money. I was there in person, though, so I
- 25:44Speaker 2: can't complain. I had an absolute ball the time at
- 25:47Speaker 2: the US Open. So glad to hear that you were
- 25:50Speaker 2: able to make it into the green though, and we'll
- 25:51Speaker 2: try and run it back this week. So cheers to you.
- 25:54Speaker 2: It's going on steven three and a four at three
- 25:56Speaker 2: point four out of ten. Sounds like you're ex Yeah,
- 25:59Speaker 2: not hitting on a whole lot of drivers around here.
- 26:01Speaker 2: And I'm guessing your girlfriend wasn't a stellar one either. Hey,
- 26:06Speaker 2: you can get a little bit of a upgrade this
- 26:08Speaker 2: time around. Yeah, shots fired, You're finally here live. What's
- 26:12Speaker 2: going on? Rick? What's going on? Jake? To well, come
- 26:15Speaker 2: on in? He said, could I play two players that
- 26:17Speaker 2: are sub seven k and DraftKings? If so? Who? Yeah?
- 26:20Speaker 2: I mean, I've got a bunch of guys down there, Brian.
- 26:22Speaker 2: So if so, who you guys can find that on
- 26:24Speaker 2: my player pool. I'm not really in the business of
- 26:26Speaker 2: just handing out free plays. We're all playing against each other, right,
- 26:30Speaker 2: so obviously i'd say, if you're gonna use your you know,
- 26:33Speaker 2: seven k guys download that are value plays, they're gonna
- 26:36Speaker 2: be super low owned, is have your own losers. That's
- 26:38Speaker 2: what my guy DJ seventy five. That's what my guy
- 26:40Speaker 2: James would always tell people on these sort of streams
- 26:43Speaker 2: on the channel here, is that when you're gonna use
- 26:46Speaker 2: somebody that's two to three percent owned, don't do it
- 26:48Speaker 2: because some talt told you to do so. So that's
- 26:50Speaker 2: why I'm gonna hold off on that sort of question.
- 26:52Speaker 2: Is like, do some dumpster diving down there and to
- 26:55Speaker 2: like our guy Deep Fat had before with Eric Cole,
- 26:59Speaker 2: maybe he's there your value play that you get to
- 27:01Speaker 2: at super low ownership. You don't want to be taking
- 27:03Speaker 2: them for talts on videos like this because then you're
- 27:05Speaker 2: sharing them with like seven to ten percent of the
- 27:07Speaker 2: field and you're not getting any sort of differentiation on
- 27:10Speaker 2: that kind of player. So I'm sure we'll mention a
- 27:13Speaker 2: whole lunch of value plays. We've already mentioned a few
- 27:15Speaker 2: that have already thought made since just pick your own losers.
- 27:18Speaker 2: As my guy James would say, you don't want to
- 27:20Speaker 2: be sharing them with the whole field. You're late, but
- 27:22Speaker 2: you're finally here. There you go. Better to have your
- 27:24Speaker 2: late than never. Can we take a look at how
- 27:26Speaker 2: to structure a Showdown lineup for round one? Yeah, I'd
- 27:29Speaker 2: go all am guys on the pulse and then a
- 27:31Speaker 2: lot of differentiations. So we're not going to build a
- 27:34Speaker 2: whole lineup for that together because this is a main
- 27:37Speaker 2: slate show, but it would be and lean towards the
- 27:39Speaker 2: morning guys, and then just like you do for rounds
- 27:41Speaker 2: two and three Showdown, we do live streams on this
- 27:44Speaker 2: channel all the time. With that is, it's all about
- 27:46Speaker 2: getting different. We don't worry about placement points. It's only
- 27:49Speaker 2: a single round sample size. The event has it started right,
- 27:52Speaker 2: so place with points obviously aren't a thing for that
- 27:54Speaker 2: sort of a slate. But embrace the chaos, embrace getting
- 27:57Speaker 2: different because you're playing an eighteen whole scene sized version
- 28:00Speaker 2: of golf. It's like playing first quarter dfs for NFL.
- 28:04Speaker 2: Like when you're playing first quarter dfs for NFL. I've
- 28:06Speaker 2: never done it before. I'm not that crazy, and if
- 28:09Speaker 2: some people out there are crazy, they choose to take
- 28:11Speaker 2: on that kind of exposure. But you play it. You
- 28:14Speaker 2: play like all the guys that never get there, because
- 28:16Speaker 2: if you get one catch and you're like five hundred
- 28:19Speaker 2: dollars on NFL first quarter dfs, you pay off your
- 28:23Speaker 2: price tag because you costs nothing in one catch, like
- 28:26Speaker 2: three and a half points or something like that is
- 28:28Speaker 2: all you have to do. That's what you do for
- 28:30Speaker 2: around one showdown. You play some crazy plays, you get
- 28:32Speaker 2: nasty about it, which might include leaving salary on the
- 28:35Speaker 2: table if you're playing that sort of a weather edge,
- 28:37Speaker 2: because you won't be the only one that's playing that
- 28:39Speaker 2: weather edge, So if you want to get different within that,
- 28:42Speaker 2: you might want to consider leaving some salary on the table.
- 28:45Speaker 2: So that's the spark Notes version. Let me know if
- 28:47Speaker 2: you have any specific questions, though we can obviously go
- 28:49Speaker 2: through those. Can I deep dive Ludwig? For sure? His
- 28:53Speaker 2: form is fallen off, so his ownership has also taken
- 28:56Speaker 2: a tick down over the last twenty four rounds. He's
- 28:59Speaker 2: losing around the but about a neutral with his approach
- 29:02Speaker 2: play in putting, so it hasn't been the worst, not
- 29:05Speaker 2: playing Love to Go Bear golf, which is closer to
- 29:08Speaker 2: like a two shots gained per round baseline, and then
- 29:11Speaker 2: if you go to the last twelve measured rounds, so
- 29:12Speaker 2: if you zoom in a bit on Loved to Go Bear,
- 29:14Speaker 2: ball striking is a little closer to what you're used
- 29:17Speaker 2: to seeing, but still only a shot gained per round
- 29:20Speaker 2: is not what we're used to from a player that's
- 29:22Speaker 2: top five, top ten in the world. So he's trending
- 29:26Speaker 2: in the right direction. I mean, you'd like to see
- 29:28Speaker 2: that the ball striking is a little bit stronger over
- 29:29Speaker 2: the last twelve rounds so what it was over the
- 29:31Speaker 2: last twenty four. But he still has a little bit
- 29:33Speaker 2: of work to do to get back to it. Sorry,
- 29:35Speaker 2: you're late. What's up, Luke? Hey, better late than never. Man,
- 29:38Speaker 2: Glad to have you in there, he said, you've been
- 29:40Speaker 2: to the course second multiple times. I'm guessing the Greater
- 29:43Speaker 2: Hartford Open, that's what they used to call this events.
- 29:47Speaker 2: Good stuff. Hey, it looks like a great area, a
- 29:49Speaker 2: great golf course, and all the world's best are up there,
- 29:52Speaker 2: so I'm jealous. I haven't been up there myself quite yet,
- 29:56Speaker 2: he said. Last week forty three k was the optimal
- 29:58Speaker 2: are we trying to use all the salary? So a
- 30:01Speaker 2: couple things with that. John. First off, you don't have
- 30:04Speaker 2: to have the optimal lineup to take down GPPs. So
- 30:08Speaker 2: last week there was, for example, no one that was
- 30:11Speaker 2: entering a forty three thousand dollars lineup that was beating
- 30:13Speaker 2: you in those large shil GPPs. So do we usually
- 30:17Speaker 2: spend too much salary compared to the optimal? Yes, that
- 30:20Speaker 2: is for sure true. Nobody has ever said that that's
- 30:23Speaker 2: not the case. But you don't ever have to have
- 30:25Speaker 2: the optimal, So it's almost useless to even worry about
- 30:28Speaker 2: that because GPP winning lineups that actually matter, And in general,
- 30:32Speaker 2: if you're leaving seven thousand dollars on the table like
- 30:35Speaker 2: that person would have done if you somehow had that
- 30:38Speaker 2: optimal lop, no one did last week. Not a single
- 30:41Speaker 2: person had that exact combination. But if you do that
- 30:43Speaker 2: on average, your lineups are gonna absolutely blow. I mean
- 30:46Speaker 2: you're gonna like min cash or get zero dollars back
- 30:49Speaker 2: on almost every single lineup that you enter, because your
- 30:52Speaker 2: average projection is going to be horrendous compared to the
- 30:56Speaker 2: rest of the field. So for mainslate, no I don't
- 30:59Speaker 2: think you should be doing that. I think you should
- 31:01Speaker 2: be spending close to almost all of your salary. Leaving
- 31:05Speaker 2: three hundred to five hundred dollars on the table is
- 31:07Speaker 2: totally fine if you need to get away to get different,
- 31:09Speaker 2: but it's not a good thing leave that kind of
- 31:13Speaker 2: salary on the table. However, and I mentioned this a
- 31:16Speaker 2: little bit with the guy that was doing the Round
- 31:18Speaker 2: one Showdown stuff. If there's a slate to explore that with,
- 31:22Speaker 2: it is Showdown where you do get some crazy outcomes
- 31:25Speaker 2: like the optimal Leaving seven thousand dollars on the table
- 31:29Speaker 2: is a very rare outcome for main slate, But for
- 31:32Speaker 2: Showdown that happens all the damn time, like it happens
- 31:35Speaker 2: like half the slates that we have for Showdown. That's
- 31:38Speaker 2: the spot where you might want to do that sort
- 31:40Speaker 2: of thing. If you're leaving that much salary on the
- 31:42Speaker 2: table for mainslate, you're asking to get kicked in the nuts.
- 31:46Speaker 2: It's not gonna go well. I've never done it, but
- 31:48Speaker 2: I've tracked people that have and it's not gone well
- 31:51Speaker 2: for them. Can you get a Nick Taylor deep dive?
- 31:55Speaker 2: You sure? And Rick, he's actually a player that had
- 31:57Speaker 2: bet outright this week, so the deep dive is going
- 31:59Speaker 2: to be rather quick here. He's got one of the
- 32:01Speaker 2: best shots gained records of anyone in the field. He's
- 32:04Speaker 2: gaining two shots gamed per round and he's only sixty
- 32:07Speaker 2: nine hundred dollars. So the issue with Nick Taylor, he
- 32:10Speaker 2: wasn't in the top sixteen highest honed players that I
- 32:12Speaker 2: was showing you before, but he was just outside of that.
- 32:15Speaker 2: So for a player that's towards the bottom end of
- 32:17Speaker 2: the pricing, he's one of the most popular players that
- 32:20Speaker 2: you have on the slate. So unless you're somebody like
- 32:22Speaker 2: myself that loved Nick Taylor on Monday, thought that he
- 32:25Speaker 2: was one of the you know, no brainer players that
- 32:27Speaker 2: wanted to add to my outright card, you might not
- 32:29Speaker 2: want to use him in lineups because he is going
- 32:31Speaker 2: to be a lot more popular than these other guys
- 32:34Speaker 2: around him. So, for example, a Max Frazerman is still
- 32:36Speaker 2: playing really good golf, but he's not going to be
- 32:38Speaker 2: as popular as Nick Taylor. You know, if you weren't
- 32:41Speaker 2: a Nick Taylor truther on Monday, then maybe Max Grazerman
- 32:44Speaker 2: should be the guy that you're using in York spooser.
- 32:46Speaker 2: So that's usually my take on the guys that are chalk,
- 32:49Speaker 2: the guys that are going to be like double, maybe
- 32:51Speaker 2: even a little bit over. The double ownership that some
- 32:53Speaker 2: of the other guys around them is a make them
- 32:55Speaker 2: your conviction plays if they're going to do so. So
- 33:01Speaker 2: thoughts on Kevin you, I don't really have that many
- 33:04Speaker 2: thoughts on him, truth be told, I know he has
- 33:06Speaker 2: an early tea time though, so if you're looking for
- 33:08Speaker 2: some of the early guys tomorrow and Showdown, that could
- 33:10Speaker 2: be a look. The approach play has been the problem though,
- 33:13Speaker 2: So he's like a four four and a half out
- 33:15Speaker 2: of ten on a week like this, just because the
- 33:17Speaker 2: approach play is such a big deal. But I don't know,
- 33:21Speaker 2: and Showdown tomorrow, I'm gonna be using him in a
- 33:23Speaker 2: few lineups. I really like that early start. What's the
- 33:26Speaker 2: highest percent of a projected ownership i'd take to pair
- 33:28Speaker 2: it with Scotty. That's not really something i'd think about, Susu,
- 33:32Speaker 2: because if you use a Scotti, even with like a
- 33:34Speaker 2: twenty percent of guy as your second man in, you
- 33:37Speaker 2: still have four other spots to get that differentiation. So
- 33:40Speaker 2: I don't really have a cap of a guy i'd
- 33:42Speaker 2: be using as my second man in. Now, if I
- 33:44Speaker 2: went Scotty twenty percent or as my second man in,
- 33:48Speaker 2: then we'd have to start thinking about that for my
- 33:50Speaker 2: third player. But the way that I take care of that,
- 33:53Speaker 2: so to kind of give you something actionable to incorporate
- 33:56Speaker 2: in your process, is I set up max product ownership.
- 33:59Speaker 2: So before I start building lineups in my optimizer, I
- 34:02Speaker 2: tell it a ownership number that it won't go over
- 34:04Speaker 2: when you multiply them all together. And that's how I
- 34:07Speaker 2: take care of that, so it won't be like Scotty
- 34:08Speaker 2: and the second man in. That's really the thing that
- 34:10Speaker 2: I worry about. It's the entire lineup as a whole.
- 34:13Speaker 2: And that's really what you should be doing when you're
- 34:15Speaker 2: looking at your lineup and how different it is, how
- 34:18Speaker 2: much leverage you're going to have towards the rest of
- 34:20Speaker 2: the field. One player is not going to make or
- 34:23Speaker 2: break that aspect. It's the combination of five or six
- 34:26Speaker 2: that's going to get that done. So look at it
- 34:28Speaker 2: that way. Scam Young as some would call him, muhuh,
- 34:31Speaker 2: gonna be real choky this week. Us for sure, is
- 34:34Speaker 2: Kevin you one of those cheaper guys with the good
- 34:36Speaker 2: ones twenty five to one seventy five. I don't know
- 34:39Speaker 2: if he's good from one twenty five to one seventy
- 34:41Speaker 2: five didn't really stick out to me, at least based
- 34:43Speaker 2: on what I was looking at before. So no, I
- 34:45Speaker 2: wouldn't say so, at least based on what I was
- 34:47Speaker 2: looking at. Thoughts on Eric Cole super low owned but
- 34:51Speaker 2: terrible form. So it looks like you in Deep Fat
- 34:53Speaker 2: seem to think that he's at least worth a few shots.
- 34:56Speaker 2: I wouldn't talk the off of them if that's the case. Hey, Luke,
- 34:59Speaker 2: what are my thoughts? Cam Davis is a value play?
- 35:01Speaker 2: He said. You know that he can be risky cats
- 35:03Speaker 2: an understatement, but you love his upside in a torment
- 35:06Speaker 2: like this if you're okay with him missing the cut,
- 35:09Speaker 2: and I am, And I'll just say this. And if
- 35:12Speaker 2: there's one thing you guys should do in GBPS if
- 35:14Speaker 2: you want to be a good GDP player, is you
- 35:16Speaker 2: should almost be ignoring missed cut equity. He should almost
- 35:19Speaker 2: be completely ignoring what can go wrong when you use
- 35:21Speaker 2: a player. But this is all about upside. If you're
- 35:23Speaker 2: going to win the big five dollars or the big
- 35:25Speaker 2: twenty five dollars against fifty thousand injuries. You're gonna have
- 35:29Speaker 2: to have the guys that are the absolute nuts in
- 35:31Speaker 2: any given week, and somebody like Cam Davis, Eric Cole,
- 35:34Speaker 2: you can kind of say the same thing about what
- 35:36Speaker 2: like especially a Cam Davis is Cam Davis. When he
- 35:39Speaker 2: plays well, he topped fivey top tens, He makes a
- 35:42Speaker 2: ton of birdies, and if he can keep bogie off
- 35:44Speaker 2: the scorecard, he's got enough firepower to potentially win the
- 35:47Speaker 2: damn thing, like he's done multiple times on tour before. However,
- 35:51Speaker 2: and this is the big however with Cam Davis is
- 35:54Speaker 2: you have to be used to him shooting like plus
- 35:56Speaker 2: twenty like he did at the US Open last week.
- 35:58Speaker 2: So it's a if you can stomach it sort of thing.
- 36:02Speaker 2: I love the low ownership aspect, but it's an extremely
- 36:05Speaker 2: wide range of outcomes. And I'll just say I am
- 36:07Speaker 2: using him in lineup, so I'm taking that risk. But
- 36:10Speaker 2: I have a little bit of a different mindset compared
- 36:12Speaker 2: to a lot of DFS players. I fully understand that
- 36:17Speaker 2: of the seventy two players that we have in this field,
- 36:19Speaker 2: that sixty six of them are dead, not just you know,
- 36:23Speaker 2: the couple that end up towards the bottom end of
- 36:25Speaker 2: the world. There's no cut this week, so I guess
- 36:26Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about that aspect. So that's
- 36:29Speaker 2: also a good thing for Cam Davis by the way,
- 36:31Speaker 2: he gets all seventy two holes no matter what. However,
- 36:34Speaker 2: like finishing just outside of his top six optimal plays,
- 36:38Speaker 2: to me is the same exact thing is finishing in
- 36:41Speaker 2: dead last place, and to a lot of people out there,
- 36:43Speaker 2: I know that sounds crazier, like how the hell could
- 36:46Speaker 2: the eighth ranked play to you, pretty much be the
- 36:47Speaker 2: same thing as the guy who finishes in last because
- 36:50Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. I play in the large hel
- 36:52Speaker 2: GVPS and I'm not finishing and I'm not there to
- 36:54Speaker 2: finish in tenth. I'm not there to finish in twenty fifth.
- 36:57Speaker 2: I don't care about oh, I made one point one
- 36:59Speaker 2: x one point two x my money and the large
- 37:01Speaker 2: held GPP. Because if that's what you're worried about when
- 37:04Speaker 2: you're won fifty maxing one of those kind of contests,
- 37:06Speaker 2: then my friend, you are focused on the wrong thing
- 37:09Speaker 2: because you don't get positive ROI and a contest with
- 37:13Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty percent Rake by grinding out profit on
- 37:16Speaker 2: a slate like one point one x, you get long
- 37:19Speaker 2: term ROI that matters in those kind of contests by
- 37:22Speaker 2: winning first place and winning one hundred thousand dollars payouts,
- 37:25Speaker 2: winning twenty thirty thousand dollars payouts for witness finishing in
- 37:28Speaker 2: first place. Which is why I hate to see people
- 37:30Speaker 2: out there like, oh, I had a slightly profitable week.
- 37:32Speaker 2: It's okay, It's like, I mean, really, it didn't matter.
- 37:34Speaker 2: And that's also why then I have a losing week
- 37:36Speaker 2: in those kind of contests and it's like twenty eight
- 37:38Speaker 2: x something like that. It's almost the same exact thing
- 37:41Speaker 2: to me is when I'm winning one point one one
- 37:42Speaker 2: point two x. Sure you'd rather have more slightly profitable
- 37:46Speaker 2: weeks than slightly losing weeks. That is how you sustain
- 37:48Speaker 2: your bank roll a little bit. Longer terments don't have
- 37:51Speaker 2: as much swings, ups and downs. But that is why
- 37:54Speaker 2: a guy like Cam Davis. I love using guys like that,
- 37:57Speaker 2: and I use them all the damn time, almost every
- 37:59Speaker 2: time they end up ended up, because that fits my
- 38:01Speaker 2: mold exactly what I'm trying to do in those contests
- 38:04Speaker 2: two at first or last place and if you're playing
- 38:07Speaker 2: in those sort of GPPs, that has to be your mindset.
- 38:09Speaker 2: If you're not, you're playing the wrong way, and people
- 38:12Speaker 2: like myself that are playing for upside are going to
- 38:14Speaker 2: lap you in those sort of contests. If you are
- 38:16Speaker 2: playing for more like the top five percentile sort of outcome,
- 38:19Speaker 2: there are contests that are made for those. Those are
- 38:21Speaker 2: your single juries, those are your ten percent to first
- 38:24Speaker 2: sort of contest where it's a much flatter payout structure.
- 38:27Speaker 2: Nothing against those, I'm just mentioning like the GPP mindset,
- 38:31Speaker 2: It just you have to enter with such a different
- 38:33Speaker 2: strategy to have that long term success. So I know
- 38:37Speaker 2: it was a little bit of a rant there, but
- 38:38Speaker 2: it was an important one because if anything you can
- 38:40Speaker 2: take away from this live stream, it's that sort of mindset.
- 38:43Speaker 2: If you're playing in a Big five or twenty five dollars,
- 38:45Speaker 2: Dave Palma says, you have a million dollar a line
- 38:47Speaker 2: up to speak shame, there's no million dollar tournament. Just
- 38:49Speaker 2: I guess the hell I'll have to win yours. Hey, yeah,
- 38:52Speaker 2: I know it's not a million dollars to first, but
- 38:54Speaker 2: you can talk shit if you finish in first, and
- 38:56Speaker 2: that's could be worth a million dollars to some people.
- 38:58Speaker 2: I guess how am I feeling about sebez sneaky good
- 39:01Speaker 2: form of late? Yeah, like a five and a half
- 39:04Speaker 2: out of ten. The form is kind of sneaky on,
- 39:06Speaker 2: and we'd say I wouldn't give you too much push
- 39:09Speaker 2: back there, Maddy Paveon one through ten. My initial reaction
- 39:13Speaker 2: is like a three. Gotta say he's been pretty terrible.
- 39:17Speaker 2: But let's take a look. M hm, three out of ten.
- 39:22Speaker 2: I mean like most of the guys down here, I
- 39:23Speaker 2: mean most of them are gonna be like three out
- 39:25Speaker 2: of tens, like Cam Davis. His form sucks, so like
- 39:28Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that Cam Davis is much better. However,
- 39:31Speaker 2: Cam Davis makes a lot more birdies than a Matthew
- 39:34Speaker 2: pave On. So personally, if I'm taking one of these
- 39:36Speaker 2: losers down low, that's losing all these shots gained to
- 39:39Speaker 2: ball striking. I'm with the ones that are gonna make
- 39:41Speaker 2: a whole bunch of birdies. And realistically, of the guys
- 39:44Speaker 2: down there, there's like one or two that make a
- 39:46Speaker 2: whole bunch of birdies. So it's a I don't want
- 39:50Speaker 2: to say he's like out of play because none of
- 39:52Speaker 2: these guys down here out of play, especially because they're
- 39:54Speaker 2: only like one to two percent owned. If you're using
- 39:57Speaker 2: a Matthew pave On here, you're hoping he has a
- 39:59Speaker 2: better Iron week because the off the t play has
- 40:02Speaker 2: been there lately. I mean, the big issue ball striking
- 40:04Speaker 2: wise is him losing close to two thirds of a
- 40:06Speaker 2: stroke per round. The putter's very volatile. With peven, I actually
- 40:10Speaker 2: wouldn't worry that much about the stroke that he's losing
- 40:12Speaker 2: in these two categories. He has really good weeks at
- 40:15Speaker 2: times we're whole gain like three four shots, gain short game,
- 40:18Speaker 2: and then hold lose four or five shots the very
- 40:21Speaker 2: next week. So well, like I said, I wouldn't worry
- 40:23Speaker 2: about that as much. But yeah, the Irons, that's a
- 40:26Speaker 2: tough one. That's he's a three out of ten, but
- 40:28Speaker 2: there are three out of tens in my player apoll,
- 40:30Speaker 2: especially if they're at no ownership. Thoughts on Straka, so
- 40:34Speaker 2: Stratca is one of my outright bets this week is
- 40:37Speaker 2: a kind of a no brainer course fit in my opinion.
- 40:39Speaker 2: He fits the accuracy and then the one twenty five
- 40:41Speaker 2: to one seventy five yard range that I was talking
- 40:44Speaker 2: about before. So yeah, I'm taking him as a bounce back.
- 40:47Speaker 2: He missed the cut at the US Open, So if
- 40:49Speaker 2: you want to play the flop flag spot, I think
- 40:51Speaker 2: it makes a lot of sense, especially with the course
- 40:53Speaker 2: fit thoughts on Tommy the same kind of course fit
- 40:56Speaker 2: going on too. He's an accurate player that's good with
- 40:58Speaker 2: the second shot. He's a also garnering some ownerships, so
- 41:02Speaker 2: it's not like these guys are massive pivots like Straco
- 41:04Speaker 2: is still towards the top end of ownership. Tommy Fleetwood,
- 41:07Speaker 2: for example, is like fifteen percent owned himself, so I
- 41:10Speaker 2: would say he's one of the best plays in this
- 41:12Speaker 2: range though, Like they're the kind of guys that were
- 41:14Speaker 2: kind of like filing towards the top end of my
- 41:17Speaker 2: model at the beginning of the week. It's going on
- 41:19Speaker 2: Bobby row Norn thoughts, So I like Norn at shorter tracks.
- 41:23Speaker 2: I know you actually asked him about He asked me
- 41:25Speaker 2: about that a little bit earlier. Right with Alex Norn,
- 41:28Speaker 2: let's take a look. So he's a grinder. He's been
- 41:32Speaker 2: playing pretty well since returning from injury. In fact, it's
- 41:34Speaker 2: been the shots, games, ball striking, and even the around
- 41:37Speaker 2: the green play that's been carrying them. Just can't buy
- 41:40Speaker 2: any putts, and that's kind of been an issue for
- 41:42Speaker 2: Alex Noran over the last few years. His putter has
- 41:45Speaker 2: been sporadic. It's came and gone. Let's take a look
- 41:48Speaker 2: at the bent Poet surface. I guess I don't have
- 41:50Speaker 2: it on here one second, guys, So I'll bring it
- 41:52Speaker 2: up on another sheet so I can take a look
- 41:54Speaker 2: at exactly where my god. All right, well, I'll just
- 41:59Speaker 2: say I want to figure out what he is on
- 42:01Speaker 2: bent Pole, but I don't have an easy way to
- 42:03Speaker 2: do it right now on stock him. If I can
- 42:06Speaker 2: get it to open the spreadsheet, I want it to
- 42:08Speaker 2: instead of fucking opening and a blank spreadsheet, that'd be great.
- 42:12Speaker 2: Let's kind of do that. I'm hopefully not leaking my projections. Okay,
- 42:16Speaker 2: I'm not. We're good. So it's fine, alex Norn Because
- 42:20Speaker 2: if the putting stats on this surface are decent and
- 42:22Speaker 2: like we can get a bounce back out of them,
- 42:25Speaker 2: I could see using them as a high exposure play.
- 42:27Speaker 2: I mean, I don't. I don't want to give away
- 42:28Speaker 2: whether I'm using them or not per se, because again,
- 42:32Speaker 2: I can't do that with everyone. I'm still playing against
- 42:34Speaker 2: all of you as well, and I do have my
- 42:36Speaker 2: Patreon page for that, But he is a gainer on
- 42:38Speaker 2: the event post surface, so you'd probably tell what I'm
- 42:41Speaker 2: doing with them there. But yeah, it makes a lot
- 42:43Speaker 2: of sense. Man, it's a short golf course. I mean,
- 42:45Speaker 2: that's what I told you before when you were asking
- 42:46Speaker 2: about it. Is Ben Bes trending? I honestly wouldn't say
- 42:50Speaker 2: he's like trending. I mean, I know we said that
- 42:52Speaker 2: he had quote unquote sneaky good form, but let's let's
- 42:55Speaker 2: confirm that. I mean, the approach stats are trending the
- 42:59Speaker 2: right way, but the other stack categories aren't. I mean,
- 43:01Speaker 2: he's losing off the t short game normally he's a
- 43:04Speaker 2: lot better than a neutral. He's trending in the most
- 43:08Speaker 2: important category. So you know, if you're just looking at
- 43:11Speaker 2: approach stats, you're trying to find guys that with the
- 43:13Speaker 2: ball striking are doing it the right way, then yeah,
- 43:15Speaker 2: I guess you could say that about Civaz, but then
- 43:18Speaker 2: that would also be ignoring the other parts of his
- 43:20Speaker 2: game that are also still gonna matter around this golf course.
- 43:23Speaker 2: But it's a I don't know if there was one
- 43:26Speaker 2: stat to be like, Okay, Yeah, he's getting like point
- 43:28Speaker 2: five point six shots a round. It's the approach play
- 43:30Speaker 2: is what you want to see. Is there a different
- 43:33Speaker 2: approach to no cut events compared to traditional weeks? Not
- 43:36Speaker 2: for me, because I'm only playing in large ol gbps
- 43:39Speaker 2: from a mainstet exposure, which means I have to have
- 43:42Speaker 2: the top six guys anyways, So it doesn't really change
- 43:45Speaker 2: my thought process that much. I guess you could say
- 43:48Speaker 2: that you could take more risk, more guys that are
- 43:50Speaker 2: just high birding percentage players and hope that you get
- 43:53Speaker 2: them through the cut line and you make birdies. But
- 43:55Speaker 2: I don't think it should change your thought process too
- 43:57Speaker 2: much either way. He said, you saw somebody in the
- 43:59Speaker 2: industry say that one of the key stats is opportunities games.
- 44:02Speaker 2: Haven't heard of that, and if so, can I explain
- 44:04Speaker 2: what it is? Yeah, so it's how many times you
- 44:06Speaker 2: put the ball within fifteen or twenty five feet, depends
- 44:09Speaker 2: on the database and exactly what they're calling an opportunity gained.
- 44:13Speaker 2: One of them's like opportunities gains. One of them's like
- 44:15Speaker 2: opportunities plus gained. I've seen around the industry too. I
- 44:18Speaker 2: think the plus gained is within ten feet. The opportunities
- 44:21Speaker 2: gained might be within like twenty feet. I'm not exactly
- 44:24Speaker 2: sure what they designate it, but it's another way to
- 44:26Speaker 2: look at shots gained approach. I personally prefer the regular
- 44:30Speaker 2: approach stats, but you know, it's just another data point
- 44:33Speaker 2: that you could use. Dive on Harry Hall and Pendrith.
- 44:36Speaker 2: You like their numbers, so yeah, I'll do it real quickly.
- 44:38Speaker 2: So Harry Hall really good shots gained with the form
- 44:42Speaker 2: he's gaining if I could find the right Harry one
- 44:44Speaker 2: point eight shots gained per round. So a lot of this,
- 44:47Speaker 2: though has been in weaker field events, has been some
- 44:50Speaker 2: stronger field events too though, so it's not like it's
- 44:53Speaker 2: only a sample size from the al events. But the
- 44:55Speaker 2: alt evants are why it looks so drastic. And then uh,
- 44:59Speaker 2: Pendrith was the other one. The issue with Harry Hall
- 45:02Speaker 2: is that he is getting some ownership by the way,
- 45:04Speaker 2: so I do have to mention the negatives with the
- 45:06Speaker 2: positives as we talked through a lot of these. And
- 45:08Speaker 2: then Pendrith though it's not as much into the positive,
- 45:11Speaker 2: but he's not gonna be nearly as chockey because he
- 45:14Speaker 2: has guys like Cam Young around him. A seawou Kim.
- 45:16Speaker 2: I think he'll probably get some ownership on a week
- 45:18Speaker 2: like this as well. Taylor Pendrith, who's gaining with his
- 45:21Speaker 2: Tea greenstats a little bit over a stroke per round,
- 45:25Speaker 2: isn't going to get nearly as much steam. So yeah,
- 45:27Speaker 2: I think you're on the right track with both of
- 45:30Speaker 2: those players. It's just that, especially like the first one,
- 45:33Speaker 2: maybe a little chalkier than you want. A lot of
- 45:35Speaker 2: people on Eric cold this week, huh. I thought he
- 45:38Speaker 2: was going to be super low owned. To be honest,
- 45:40Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna be one of the only
- 45:42Speaker 2: people considering him, and now now I'm thinking he might
- 45:44Speaker 2: be a little bit more steamed than I thought. Let's see,
- 45:47Speaker 2: how about Stevens. Stevens, he's played well the last few weeks,
- 45:50Speaker 2: He's played well this year in general. I think he's
- 45:52Speaker 2: taking a big step forward, gaining across all four stat categories.
- 45:59Speaker 2: So like a Steven's, a Bazaine who like these are
- 46:02Speaker 2: all guys that are playing pretty solid golf. They're getting
- 46:05Speaker 2: a lot more steam than I would have expected, though,
- 46:08Speaker 2: to be honest with you, and this is what I'll
- 46:10Speaker 2: say about that six k range. I know I mentioned
- 46:12Speaker 2: like Scotty giving a lot more steam to this portion
- 46:15Speaker 2: of the board. A lot of people are using guys
- 46:17Speaker 2: like a Steven's a Bazaane w Hood has a little
- 46:19Speaker 2: bit more steam than some of the other guys around them,
- 46:21Speaker 2: A d Tree because he was in contention at the
- 46:23Speaker 2: Major Championship. I know, I really like Nick Taylor, but
- 46:27Speaker 2: like even next raise him and people are using in
- 46:29Speaker 2: some of their lineups. The guys I really like in
- 46:32Speaker 2: this range are the ones that we haven't talked about,
- 46:34Speaker 2: and I hate to like talk them up because I
- 46:37Speaker 2: don't want to like steam up anyone here. But like
- 46:39Speaker 2: Steven Jaeger, no one's talking about him this week. Davis Thompson,
- 46:43Speaker 2: I have not heard his name thrown now on really
- 46:46Speaker 2: any shows this week as a player that they like
- 46:48Speaker 2: getting to Like a Danny McCarthy, he's being completely overlooked.
- 46:52Speaker 2: Those are the guys in that range that are getting
- 46:55Speaker 2: no steam that I actually prefer over some of these
- 46:58Speaker 2: guys with a little bit of better form. And there
- 47:00Speaker 2: are still some form guys I'm taking, like Nick Taylor
- 47:02Speaker 2: would be an example one of the form guys that
- 47:04Speaker 2: I'm using. But I really really like some of the
- 47:08Speaker 2: low ones guys in that range, probably even more than
- 47:10Speaker 2: some of the guys that are chalky. You're gonna destroy
- 47:14Speaker 2: the YMCA locker room. If you click on Clark, you might. Man,
- 47:18Speaker 2: it's not the best course fit. And I gotta say,
- 47:20Speaker 2: not a good look for Windy to go out there
- 47:22Speaker 2: and do that sort of thing. How do I feel
- 47:24Speaker 2: about guys grinding? I don't know if you really need
- 47:27Speaker 2: guys that grind this week it is a little bit
- 47:29Speaker 2: of a birdie fest, but so yeah, like around the
- 47:31Speaker 2: green stats, not really the biggest part of my process.
- 47:34Speaker 2: Thoughts on Maddy Schmid, He's a sneaky good course fit.
- 47:38Speaker 2: I'd say Rob. I wouldn't really have thought that before
- 47:41Speaker 2: the Charles Schwab challenge of the nearly one, But it's
- 47:44Speaker 2: the same type of agronomy bent poa a lot of
- 47:47Speaker 2: across a lot of that golf course, a lot of wedges,
- 47:49Speaker 2: a lot of shots from like one twenty five to
- 47:51Speaker 2: one seventy five, and putting does matter around this golf course.
- 47:54Speaker 2: So I don't know, he's like a six out of
- 47:57Speaker 2: ten course fit. The form is like a six out
- 47:59Speaker 2: of ten two, So I think he's an above average
- 48:01Speaker 2: play I would say I wouldn't say that he's like
- 48:03Speaker 2: a great play, but he's definitely in consideration of that portion.
- 48:07Speaker 2: Any feelings towards min Wu maybe a better showdown play,
- 48:10Speaker 2: I think he hit the nail on the head there
- 48:11Speaker 2: he goes off early. I think he's a good round
- 48:13Speaker 2: one showdown play. I don't like him for the full
- 48:16Speaker 2: event though, because he doesn't really fit the off the
- 48:18Speaker 2: t profile that well. How do I feel about guys
- 48:21Speaker 2: who grinded out the open, like guys like Burns, Hovelins
- 48:23Speaker 2: and guys towards the top? So yeah, I was having
- 48:25Speaker 2: a conversation with one of my buddies about that earlier. Today.
- 48:29Speaker 2: I don't think it's like the biggest thing I'm incorporating,
- 48:31Speaker 2: But like, if I don't love a guy, if I
- 48:34Speaker 2: was marginal on whether I wanted to use him or not,
- 48:37Speaker 2: then I won't play them. If it was one of
- 48:38Speaker 2: the guys that was grinding it out. However, if they
- 48:41Speaker 2: make a lot of sense per the stats I'm looking at,
- 48:44Speaker 2: if they make a lot of sense based on like
- 48:46Speaker 2: the key stats I'm emphasizing, then I'll still use them
- 48:49Speaker 2: despite that. So it's like it's kind of like the weather,
- 48:51Speaker 2: right I don't think the weather should be your end
- 48:53Speaker 2: all be all This week, same thing, but that sort
- 48:55Speaker 2: of narrative. Let's see, Luke, have I talked about rick
- 49:00Speaker 2: Fowl yet? You think he could pop this week? He's
- 49:02Speaker 2: at least rested. Oh, I haven't talked about Ricky at all.
- 49:05Speaker 2: I mean form is kind of sketchy, as I'm sure
- 49:08Speaker 2: you know. I don't think it's a terrible course fit though,
- 49:11Speaker 2: because he's played about courses like Valero, he's played well,
- 49:14Speaker 2: like even Congressant Classic. Over the last few years, he's
- 49:18Speaker 2: played decently at I don't know. Oh, it's grimy, man.
- 49:24Speaker 2: It makes you feel terrible. It gives you a little
- 49:25Speaker 2: bit of acid reflux when you even think about wanting
- 49:28Speaker 2: to play a Ricky Fowler. However, when he pops, which
- 49:32Speaker 2: isn't very often. Over the last year or so, he's
- 49:35Speaker 2: had some top tens. He's even gone into contention a
- 49:37Speaker 2: couple times. Hell, even the US Open at LACC he's
- 49:41Speaker 2: in there until the very last round, good leverage play.
- 49:44Speaker 2: But you only use him in those kind of scenarios, right,
- 49:46Speaker 2: He wouldn't be in like your big dollar single entry
- 49:49Speaker 2: or anything like that. He said, in your lineups you're
- 49:51Speaker 2: getting a lot of Ryan Berger, and they both scare you.
- 49:53Speaker 2: Any thoughts on either, and he said the smash alike
- 49:55Speaker 2: fun people. You heard the guy go ahead, pump those
- 49:58Speaker 2: numbers up, people, and then yeah, your question about Burger
- 50:00Speaker 2: and Rye. So they're getting a lot of ownership. They're
- 50:03Speaker 2: towards the top end of my top sixteen highest zoned players.
- 50:06Speaker 2: So well, you're not alone in liking those two. So
- 50:08Speaker 2: I don't think you're crazy at all if your process
- 50:10Speaker 2: is putting you onto those type of guys off the
- 50:13Speaker 2: t play is very strong of both. They're both accurate players,
- 50:16Speaker 2: so they fit that narrative that most people are incorporating.
- 50:19Speaker 2: They're also good Iron players, especially Daniel Berger. Berger's been
- 50:23Speaker 2: lights out with the Irons for the last year or so.
- 50:25Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that you're crazy for taking either of
- 50:28Speaker 2: those two players. It's just that if you're using them
- 50:31Speaker 2: as your value plays, that you're taking guys that are
- 50:33Speaker 2: getting a little bit more steam than other players around them,
- 50:36Speaker 2: and that you're going to have to differentiate at some
- 50:37Speaker 2: other portion of your lineup. So I like Burger a
- 50:40Speaker 2: whole lot this week out of those two, Like I'm
- 50:42Speaker 2: playing Daniel Berger, but it's a spot where at least
- 50:46Speaker 2: one of my other spots is going to have to
- 50:47Speaker 2: be a sub five percenter to make that kind of
- 50:49Speaker 2: thing work. And Hughes is your secret play he says,
- 50:52Speaker 2: shit's not a secret. He has just stud Yeah, I
- 50:55Speaker 2: wouldn't say he's a secret by any means in this
- 50:57Speaker 2: kind of field, though, Steven, he's not going to garnering
- 51:00Speaker 2: all that kind of ownership. So I like the way
- 51:02Speaker 2: you're thinking. And then he said thoughts on DECKI he
- 51:04Speaker 2: closed out Oakmont pretty solidly. Yeah, he had a whole
- 51:06Speaker 2: bunch of birdies on Sunday when no one used him
- 51:08Speaker 2: in showdown. I would say that he's like a four
- 51:11Speaker 2: out of ten just because the form isn't there. He's
- 51:13Speaker 2: a little bit overpriced. There's a lot of reasons why
- 51:16Speaker 2: Decki doesn't make sense on a week like this. However,
- 51:19Speaker 2: it's always a Deckie Matsiama. He's always capable of winning
- 51:22Speaker 2: any golf course. He's shown that to us. He's won
- 51:25Speaker 2: at short tracks like the Sony Open. He's won at
- 51:27Speaker 2: the Century Tournament Champions, one of the longest courses on tour.
- 51:30Speaker 2: He's won at bridge Stone, He's one at Memorial. He's
- 51:33Speaker 2: won at the Waste Management Phoenix Open, He's won at
- 51:36Speaker 2: Naraschido country Clubs. He's won at almost every single type
- 51:40Speaker 2: of golf course that you could possibly think of around
- 51:43Speaker 2: the world. And the best part about Hadeki is that
- 51:46Speaker 2: we usually can never see it coming. Is it just
- 51:48Speaker 2: randomly happens. A decky goes off, he has his spike
- 51:51Speaker 2: week and ends up getting there. So if you're even
- 51:54Speaker 2: remotely thinking about using on prep drone, you use him.
- 51:57Speaker 2: You don't let any talent like myself Takiya of using
- 52:00Speaker 2: Hideki Matziama, because no one really knows when he's gonna
- 52:04Speaker 2: have those type of weeks, and when he does, he
- 52:06Speaker 2: can make or break the entire slate on one player alone.
- 52:09Speaker 2: So I don't know. If you're thinking about him, you
- 52:11Speaker 2: throw him into a few lineups just in case he
- 52:14Speaker 2: ends up getting there. Then he said, yeah, forms temporary
- 52:16Speaker 2: class is permanent decie no other notes exactly. That's that's
- 52:21Speaker 2: the only argument for and against Hideki Maatziama. Pretty much
- 52:24Speaker 2: every time he blaze. The one thing I'll say is
- 52:27Speaker 2: that I never use a chalky Hitdeki Matziama. If there's
- 52:30Speaker 2: one spot to kind of like use them or to
- 52:32Speaker 2: get away from them. I think it's that because you
- 52:35Speaker 2: never really know what the hell is going to happen.
- 52:37Speaker 2: So the last thing we're going to go through here
- 52:38Speaker 2: before we finish off this live stream, I do have
- 52:40Speaker 2: to get to my prop live stream at eight pm
- 52:42Speaker 2: Eastern is talk about first off the contests that are
- 52:44Speaker 2: available and then build a lineup together. So first off
- 52:47Speaker 2: with the contest, A lot of them are filling this
- 52:49Speaker 2: late into the week. So just like last time around,
- 52:52Speaker 2: if you guys haven't already reserved your contest early on
- 52:54Speaker 2: a Tuesday, you're probably doing it the wrong way. That
- 52:57Speaker 2: the best contest if you're not on one fifty men
- 53:00Speaker 2: are like myself are the single entries. And we already
- 53:02Speaker 2: kind of hinted at why before. If you're playing in
- 53:05Speaker 2: the large field GVPS, it's all about finishing in first.
- 53:08Speaker 2: It's a very unsustainable form of DFS because it is
- 53:11Speaker 2: so top heavy. A lot of you guys that are
- 53:13Speaker 2: playing this don't want those top heavy, those unsustainable sort
- 53:16Speaker 2: of contests. We want to play things like not this
- 53:19Speaker 2: Drive Green. This is another one of those one to
- 53:20Speaker 2: fifty maxes like I entered. I entered the other driver
- 53:23Speaker 2: of green, I entered the one that was a lot
- 53:25Speaker 2: larger than what you had with the one we just
- 53:26Speaker 2: went through. You're looking for the single entries contests that
- 53:29Speaker 2: aren't as top heavy, that have a little bit of
- 53:31Speaker 2: flatter payout structures. Now, a lot of the really good
- 53:33Speaker 2: single entries have already filled at this point of the week.
- 53:36Speaker 2: That's why I'm having a hard time even finding some
- 53:38Speaker 2: of these on there. But this Long Drive is an
- 53:40Speaker 2: example of one of those contests. This is a one
- 53:43Speaker 2: hundred dollars single entry with just over three hundred and
- 53:45Speaker 2: thirty entries, where if you finish in that top five,
- 53:48Speaker 2: you're gonna get well over the amount of money that
- 53:50Speaker 2: you put in as you're going to get in a
- 53:51Speaker 2: single entry sort of contest no matter what. But it's
- 53:54Speaker 2: gonna give you enough bank roll right there to sustain
- 53:57Speaker 2: yourself for like a month or two when it comes
- 53:59Speaker 2: to your one hundred dollars single entries. So that's why
- 54:01Speaker 2: I was mentioning, like, just enter the contest that make
- 54:03Speaker 2: the sense most, make the most sense for you if
- 54:06Speaker 2: you care about Like if you can't put your money
- 54:09Speaker 2: into a contest and you can't understand that, like if
- 54:11Speaker 2: you're more likely going to lose that, then you enter
- 54:14Speaker 2: these sort of contests right where you could be more
- 54:16Speaker 2: sustainable about it. You're okay getting one point one one
- 54:18Speaker 2: point two x your money back, If you're okay taking
- 54:21Speaker 2: on that risk and you want to win something like
- 54:23Speaker 2: two hundred thousand dollars to first place, you have to
- 54:26Speaker 2: be willing to not cash that often against thirty seven
- 54:30Speaker 2: thousand other people. Right There's it's a completely different thing
- 54:33Speaker 2: to try and beat three hundred people as opposed to
- 54:36Speaker 2: nearly forty thousand people in this sort of contest. So
- 54:40Speaker 2: that's why I'm so adamant about entering contests that fit
- 54:43Speaker 2: the kind of style that you want to play, because
- 54:45Speaker 2: you have a whole bunch of choices to go through. Like,
- 54:47Speaker 2: it's not just like every contest is either really small
- 54:50Speaker 2: or really big. There's everything in between as well. You
- 54:53Speaker 2: have contests with like one thousand entries, once with like
- 54:55Speaker 2: two to three thousand entries, five thousand entries, ten thousand entries,
- 54:59Speaker 2: everything up to that forty thousand mark that you have
- 55:01Speaker 2: right here. Find the right size for you. I know
- 55:05Speaker 2: that's what she said. Huh, I probably sounded a little
- 55:08Speaker 2: bit wrong. But it's I guess it's true with this one. Right,
- 55:10Speaker 2: find the size of GPP that works the best for you,
- 55:13Speaker 2: and the right kind of payout structure that works for
- 55:15Speaker 2: you as well. And the last thing we're gonna do
- 55:17Speaker 2: is build a lineup together. And this is all about
- 55:19Speaker 2: just making sure that we have enough differentiation in here.
- 55:21Speaker 2: So we're gonna build this for the big five dollars
- 55:23Speaker 2: GPP that I've already entered, and I already have all
- 55:26Speaker 2: my lineups in for where I've got to make sure
- 55:28Speaker 2: I can beat twenty to thirty thousand other people. So
- 55:31Speaker 2: up top, we're gonna go with a lineup that doesn't
- 55:33Speaker 2: start with Scotty, just because if you use Scotty it
- 55:36Speaker 2: kind of forces you down towards the bottom end. Those
- 55:39Speaker 2: lineup constructions aren't as interesting as what you have with
- 55:41Speaker 2: some of the other ones. So let's start with Morikawa.
- 55:44Speaker 2: He's one of my core plays. Let's go with sept
- 55:46Speaker 2: Straka as our next man in. I'm gonna throw in
- 55:49Speaker 2: a Russell Henley, and then I'm even gonna go with
- 55:51Speaker 2: a kind of chalky Actually, yeah, we'll go with a
- 55:54Speaker 2: kind of chalky fourth man into It's start with these
- 55:57Speaker 2: four players, So these are all either like core plays
- 55:59Speaker 2: or value plays. For me, they're a four conviction plays
- 56:02Speaker 2: that I'll be using. They all have some ownership behind them,
- 56:05Speaker 2: so more Caaba's close to seventeen percent, Straka is like
- 56:09Speaker 2: fifteen percent, Henley fourteen percent, Seaboo Kim I have it
- 56:12Speaker 2: close to like ten percent ownership. So like guys like Henley, Sebou, Straka,
- 56:17Speaker 2: they're not like Donkey Chok or anything at that sort
- 56:20Speaker 2: of number. But because they're getting a lot more ownership
- 56:23Speaker 2: than I would like it, all four of those spots
- 56:26Speaker 2: our last two players are gonna have to be extremely different.
- 56:29Speaker 2: They're gonna have to be spots where we're forcing in
- 56:31Speaker 2: a player to really make sure that we're getting different
- 56:33Speaker 2: to the rest of the field. So for example, like
- 56:36Speaker 2: a Daniel Berger would be a no go and Aaron
- 56:38Speaker 2: Rye would be a massive no go because they're chok
- 56:41Speaker 2: in this kind of range. But if you're a big
- 56:42Speaker 2: McKenzie Hughes fan, like I know we had for somebody
- 56:45Speaker 2: down in chat just now that he'd be a great
- 56:47Speaker 2: guy to use in this sort of lineup, and then
- 56:49Speaker 2: for your last man in like you avoid a graze,
- 56:51Speaker 2: I mean you avoid guys like Nick Taylor because they're
- 56:53Speaker 2: gonna be kind of popular as your last man in.
- 56:55Speaker 2: But if you took let's say a Wyndham Clark as
- 56:58Speaker 2: your last man in, or like a I don't know,
- 57:01Speaker 2: if you left some salary on the table and then
- 57:02Speaker 2: you went down to like a Max Homa at sixty
- 57:04Speaker 2: five hundred dollars, you could get away with a pretty
- 57:07Speaker 2: popular start with those first three four players just by
- 57:10Speaker 2: taking two pivots towards the bottom and then maybe adding
- 57:13Speaker 2: some salary left on the table on top of that
- 57:15Speaker 2: to get some added differentiation. So that's the line of
- 57:18Speaker 2: construction segment. If you're in like a single entry, something
- 57:21Speaker 2: that's a little bit smaller, like maybe that three hundred
- 57:23Speaker 2: dollars single entry I was posting about before, maybe you
- 57:25Speaker 2: don't have to leave all that salary as your last spot.
- 57:28Speaker 2: Maybe you can spend it all and play like a
- 57:29Speaker 2: Matt Fitzpatrick. But you still have to incorporate leverage at
- 57:32Speaker 2: some point so that when your players hit you can
- 57:35Speaker 2: move up those leader boards. The big difference I would
- 57:38Speaker 2: say is that in those single entries, you're not gonna
- 57:40Speaker 2: worry about duplicating yourself nearly as much as what you
- 57:42Speaker 2: would in some of those other larger field GPPs. But
- 57:45Speaker 2: that's all about guys for this DFS breakdown. Best of
- 57:48Speaker 2: luck with all the exposure that you guys are getting to.
- 57:50Speaker 2: I'll be doing the prop live stream in just a
- 57:52Speaker 2: few minutes over there on my YouTube channel. Is that
- 57:54Speaker 2: is gsloop DFS. If you guys want to stop on
- 57:56Speaker 2: buy for that. They're going through all the underdog and
- 57:58Speaker 2: price pick stuff. There some matchup on the sportsbooks, pen locations,
- 58:02Speaker 2: stat averages around TPC River Highlands. Maybe you guys an
- 58:05Speaker 2: even better idea of what to expect for this week.
- 58:07Speaker 2: But that's all I've got. As I said before, I'm
- 58:09Speaker 2: looking forward to our showdown streams throughout the weekend after
- 58:12Speaker 2: the rounds end, make sure to stop them. Buy to
- 58:14Speaker 2: the ship at Nation YouTube channel for all the showdown
- 58:17Speaker 2: content for Friday through Sunday. But that's all guys. I'll
- 58:20Speaker 2: see you guys in a few minutes on my YouTube