Latest / HEAVY Music Interviews / Return To Sender With SPIKE From ME FIRST & THE GIMME GIMMES
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- 0:00Speaker 1: My name is Spike with me first and the gimme
- 0:03Speaker 1: gimmes from San Francisco, California, and we are coming to
- 0:10Speaker 1: Australia under the auspices of our band of the long
- 0:16Speaker 1: weekend tour and right soon at.
- 0:19Speaker 2: That beautiful spy, thanks for joining us at this ungodly
- 0:23Speaker 2: how today.
- 0:25Speaker 1: No, it's it's pretty godly for me. I gotta say
- 0:28Speaker 1: it's mid day on a different day, mind you. And
- 0:34Speaker 1: I'm here in the Bay in northern California, and yeah,
- 0:39Speaker 1: things could certainly be worse, and they can and they
- 0:42Speaker 1: will be as much. You know, we can be assured.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Well, you gotta actually be trading in the Bay for
- 0:51Speaker 2: the sunny coast of Australia, might as they first and
- 0:53Speaker 2: gimme give's return to Australia this time next week, mate,
- 0:57Speaker 2: for run of shows starting in Bridgmane on October thirty,
- 1:00Speaker 2: they hitting the Gold Coast Newcastle, Canberra, Sydney, Toqui, Melbourne
- 1:04Speaker 2: and Adelaide and finishing in Perth on November third, eighth. Mate, Like,
- 1:08Speaker 2: but my reckoning, that's only six days away. You're packed
- 1:10Speaker 2: and ready to go?
- 1:12Speaker 1: Uh getting there, getting there? We always leave it to
- 1:15Speaker 1: the last minute. But uh no, we're getting there, Uh,
- 1:21Speaker 1: preparing ourselves mentally and emotionally and uh infrastructurally. Uh it's
- 1:27Speaker 1: always a challenge, but somehow we always make do. And
- 1:31Speaker 1: the flight keeps getting shorter and shorter. I think they
- 1:34Speaker 1: hit some kind of slip stream shimmer. I don't know,
- 1:38Speaker 1: but which as it is.
- 1:43Speaker 2: I could be wrong in him, but I swear it
- 1:44Speaker 2: was only two weeks ago. I saw you with the
- 1:47Speaker 2: Miami Maketta.
- 1:49Speaker 1: It feels like it, doesn't it. And uh, what a
- 1:52Speaker 1: great venue too, What a weird great uh venue and
- 1:56Speaker 1: a cool little like enclosed market. You guys do those
- 2:00Speaker 1: English like arcade style markets really well? Like the one
- 2:05Speaker 1: in adelaide Is has got to be one of my
- 2:07Speaker 1: favorites in the world. And I can't wait to go
- 2:11Speaker 1: back there.
- 2:13Speaker 2: Did you guys like leave it go bag here somewhere
- 2:16Speaker 2: to say, bringing stuff on the planet, it'd be a
- 2:18Speaker 2: lot easier.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, I guess it would. But no, like I said,
- 2:26Speaker 1: we make do. Like we're not always the best friends
- 2:29Speaker 1: of the U of the people at the at the
- 2:32Speaker 1: airline counter by any means, but we sort of barge
- 2:36Speaker 1: our way to the front and uh sort of insist
- 2:40Speaker 1: we have to we need help. You know, we got
- 2:42Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. We got wardrobe, we got new
- 2:46Speaker 1: monkey suits to stuff. We got gear lest we forget
- 2:50Speaker 1: guitars and and amplification drums, although some of that will
- 2:55Speaker 1: be supplied on your end. But yeah, we we we
- 3:00Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff. And uh, like we don't
- 3:03Speaker 1: travel light, but we travel now.
- 3:08Speaker 2: There's gonna be some people out of there, and I'm
- 3:10Speaker 2: not one of them, but some people will be signed
- 3:12Speaker 2: like fuck we one so him a couple of months ago,
- 3:14Speaker 2: and I why should we go again?
- 3:15Speaker 1: And say, how's this going.
- 3:16Speaker 2: To be different to the last time?
- 3:17Speaker 1: You're year? Well, we uh just released a seven inch
- 3:23Speaker 1: and a streaming single of something that the old heads
- 3:28Speaker 1: might remember from Sunbury seventy two, and that is a
- 3:32Speaker 1: rendition of Billy Thorpe and the Aztecs. Most people I
- 3:36Speaker 1: know think that I'm crazy, and and it's accurate. You know,
- 3:39Speaker 1: I may not have written the song, although I easily
- 3:42Speaker 1: could have, uh, but it's as if it were written
- 3:47Speaker 1: about me, and I can relate and I think, you know,
- 3:52Speaker 1: the average Australian, Uh, we'll be able to relate to
- 3:57Speaker 1: and probably probably be more familiar with it than than
- 3:59Speaker 1: your average American that is listener. I think the only
- 4:05Speaker 1: he came close to a hit here, but you know,
- 4:11Speaker 1: predictably for musical artists, you know, I think he either
- 4:16Speaker 1: he or his management mismanaged his assent to international superstardom.
- 4:22Speaker 1: What the hell was the song? You know what I'm
- 4:26Speaker 1: talking about? It was it was just like big breakout hit.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Like over there most people I know, was the breakout hit,
- 4:32Speaker 1: but here it was, Oh what the hell was? I
- 4:35Speaker 1: can't remember? But anyway, then that's that's what Americans would
- 4:40Speaker 1: be more familiar with.
- 4:42Speaker 2: You're gonna have to hundred percent play that now you
- 4:45Speaker 2: mentioned it might because people will say you apot if
- 4:48Speaker 2: you if you say you've done a cover of Billy
- 4:50Speaker 2: Thorpe and you don't.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Play it, they will right in the streets. Yeah no, no,
- 4:54Speaker 1: I I definitely, uh I get it, you know. No
- 4:58Speaker 1: which reach we we we try to come with something
- 5:01Speaker 1: sort of new, with with with local relevance. Every time
- 5:04Speaker 1: we come out something that that wouldn't have been heard
- 5:07Speaker 1: before I've even done. I've gone so far as to
- 5:11Speaker 1: do a Saints song on the ukulele, and uh, strangely enough,
- 5:17Speaker 1: like it got sort of lukewarm response. I hope there's
- 5:22Speaker 1: more Saints fans out there than it seemed like at that,
- 5:26Speaker 1: you know, on that tour. But right after we leave,
- 5:32Speaker 1: the Saints are doing their own Australian tour I understand,
- 5:36Speaker 1: and Mark arm from mud Honey is gonna be singing
- 5:40Speaker 1: for them. Unfortunately we can't stick around because we're going
- 5:43Speaker 1: straight to Japan. But I really hope they come to
- 5:47Speaker 1: the States with that thing. And furthermore, this great label
- 5:51Speaker 1: from Los Angeles called in the Red Records is doing
- 5:55Speaker 1: this like quadruple album release. I'm stranded with T shirts
- 6:05Speaker 1: being released at the same time, all sorts of extras,
- 6:11Speaker 1: B sides it should be. I think it may already
- 6:15Speaker 1: be out at least here in the States. So but yeah, no,
- 6:21Speaker 1: we try to do something new with local relevance every time.
- 6:24Speaker 1: As I said, now.
- 6:27Speaker 2: I don't have made this very often made, but you
- 6:29Speaker 2: guys have got me absolutely fucked, Like I can't figure
- 6:32Speaker 2: out anything even slightly witty to combat You're naming the
- 6:35Speaker 2: tour the band of the Long Weekend too, Like where
- 6:38Speaker 2: the hell does that come from?
- 6:40Speaker 1: Uh? The Internet, and I discovered that the Australia UH
- 6:46Speaker 1: is called the Land of the last week and there
- 6:49Speaker 1: has been called the Land of the Lost Weekend, and
- 6:54Speaker 1: that kind of makes sense. You know, it's a little alliterative,
- 6:57Speaker 1: but it you know, it works. It tracks right like it.
- 7:02Speaker 2: On Saturday for agents.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Look at it.
- 7:04Speaker 2: God Like, what can I say to this?
- 7:05Speaker 1: And it's just not that got me? I'm fucked got
- 7:08Speaker 1: nothing that's good. I like to We like to put crowds.
- 7:14Speaker 1: We like to put our fans and uh and facilitators
- 7:18Speaker 1: at a disadvantage, you know what I mean. I think
- 7:20Speaker 1: it's it's not a strategic thing as much as it
- 7:23Speaker 1: is just sort of a troll. Our shows are like
- 7:26Speaker 1: an hour and a half long troll, and at first
- 7:31Speaker 1: we try to sort of set the bar kind of
- 7:33Speaker 1: high for ourselves by you know, really alienating our our
- 7:40Speaker 1: potential allies until the point where they're actually expressing their
- 7:46Speaker 1: displeasure in like, you know, audibly booing, you know what
- 7:50Speaker 1: I mean. We like to bring them to about that
- 7:52Speaker 1: point before we start to reel them back in. We
- 7:55Speaker 1: discovered it where really we're really kicked in. Was we
- 8:01Speaker 1: recently two or three years ago and it was still
- 8:04Speaker 1: during lockdown and everything like that, So it was a
- 8:07Speaker 1: really crazy tour, but we were on a bill with
- 8:10Speaker 1: the Violent Fems and Flogging Mollie as well as a
- 8:14Speaker 1: band from New York called Thick, and all the other
- 8:19Speaker 1: bands played originals, or at least mostly originals. So and
- 8:25Speaker 1: as with most bands that play originals, they are the
- 8:28Speaker 1: heroes of their own stories, right. They're very earnest, and
- 8:32Speaker 1: they're very serious about their music. They may be smiling
- 8:35Speaker 1: and everything, but it's a serious moment you know they're
- 8:39Speaker 1: sharing with you. Whereas for us, we understood right off
- 8:45Speaker 1: the bat that we were the heels of the bill,
- 8:48Speaker 1: just as we are the heels of any bill that
- 8:51Speaker 1: we're on. And interestingly enough, the nights when you alienate
- 8:56Speaker 1: the crowd the most, those are the knights where you
- 8:59Speaker 1: end up selling the most T shirts. Isn't that funny
- 9:04Speaker 1: something about the human animals? Comedians understand it. Comedians understand
- 9:08Speaker 1: that that they have to channel the worst aspects of themselves.
- 9:13Speaker 1: They have to analyze and pick out the worst parts
- 9:19Speaker 1: of themselves and then put them on display and accentuate them,
- 9:25Speaker 1: and not to try to be the hero. Like some
- 9:28Speaker 1: of my favorite coim Jim Jeffries from Out Your Way
- 9:31Speaker 1: kind of gets the paradigm. But I I love him,
- 9:35Speaker 1: but but but it seems like he's sort of following
- 9:37Speaker 1: an American model. If I may be so bold, which
- 9:41Speaker 1: is that, Like if you're looking at a comedian and
- 9:45Speaker 1: it even worked, it goes. It works with TV shows too,
- 9:49Speaker 1: like the Sopranos like it. Like if you can't tell
- 9:54Speaker 1: if this person means what they're saying, then that comedian
- 9:58Speaker 1: is a success. If you can't tell if they mean
- 10:01Speaker 1: the heinous shit that they're like popping off on the stage,
- 10:05Speaker 1: then then then they've done their jobs. And that that's
- 10:09Speaker 1: kind of the way we feel about it. Like we're
- 10:11Speaker 1: not trying to be your friend. You know, we're not
- 10:14Speaker 1: we're not trying to meet you. We're not trying to
- 10:16Speaker 1: get a message out other than you know, we got
- 10:21Speaker 1: the mic and the public address system. That's the only message.
- 10:26Speaker 1: That's the only message we're bringing to the people. And
- 10:29Speaker 1: I think that's the only message ultimately that anybody really wants,
- 10:34Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, when did punk or
- 10:36Speaker 1: so called punk evolve into where we're like the notion
- 10:42Speaker 1: of like middle to upper class white men bitching at
- 10:48Speaker 1: me and screaming about how unfair the world is, Like
- 10:51Speaker 1: who fucking needs that, man, you know what I mean, Like,
- 10:53Speaker 1: it's not you know, it doesn't you know, I'd rather
- 10:59Speaker 1: show people good time.
- 11:01Speaker 2: He's run right out of left field for you might
- 11:03Speaker 2: only thought of it while he was talking then. But
- 11:06Speaker 2: have you ever conceided like maybe doing the Jim Jefferes
- 11:08Speaker 2: skit and doing that to music and punking that apple
- 11:11Speaker 2: like some comedian skit and saying that to music, that'd
- 11:15Speaker 2: be fucking different.
- 11:16Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's interesting. So there's this guy Mono Neon
- 11:21Speaker 1: who's he's on Instagram and he's played with like funk
- 11:26Speaker 1: Giants and uh, he's just a famous bass player in
- 11:31Speaker 1: his own right. But he also has a thing where
- 11:34Speaker 1: he posts this stuff online where there are these like
- 11:37Speaker 1: viral videos of you know, somebody giving like a famous speech,
- 11:44Speaker 1: but it's famous because it's shitty, you know, like it's
- 11:47Speaker 1: and then you know or like a Karen having a
- 11:50Speaker 1: breakdown or something like that, and then he plays a
- 11:53Speaker 1: bass accompaniment to it and then adds all these different
- 11:56Speaker 1: layers to it and then plays the video and plays
- 11:59Speaker 1: along with the video, and it's you know, it's it's
- 12:02Speaker 1: definitely something. It's definitely something that's happened before. I don't know, man,
- 12:07Speaker 1: I like classical pop structure, you know, Like my favorite
- 12:12Speaker 1: punk music is just sort of sped up pop music,
- 12:17Speaker 1: you know, like, and I'm not talking like nineties pop
- 12:20Speaker 1: punk is not really my thing, even though my band
- 12:24Speaker 1: kind of comes out of that world. To me, pop
- 12:26Speaker 1: punk is like the Ramones or the Buzzcocks, you know,
- 12:29Speaker 1: like it's just But that being said, I love classic
- 12:33Speaker 1: pop music structure, so I think that would always be
- 12:37Speaker 1: where our covers are gonna come from, especially sort of
- 12:41Speaker 1: like outsider pop or like weirdo pop, which in the seventies,
- 12:47Speaker 1: you know, it was weird, like the the the sound
- 12:52Speaker 1: profile didn't always necessarily match the tone of say like
- 12:58Speaker 1: the theme of the vocals or the lyrics, if that
- 13:03Speaker 1: makes any sense. Like alone again, naturally, it just you
- 13:08Speaker 1: only had songs like that in the seventies or seasons
- 13:11Speaker 1: in the sun, like this happy go lucky song about cancer,
- 13:16Speaker 1: you know, like I think that the seventies, you know,
- 13:19Speaker 1: but it's still pop music, still with pop structure, and
- 13:25Speaker 1: you know, after sort of like the hippie freak out
- 13:27Speaker 1: of the late sixties. The music of the seventies was
- 13:31Speaker 1: certainly informed by that, but I think it's and pop
- 13:35Speaker 1: and you know it just I don't know. I love
- 13:37Speaker 1: the music from that period and if I could, I
- 13:40Speaker 1: would only cover stuff from that. But you know that's
- 13:44Speaker 1: why I haven't. Second and third opinions.
- 13:49Speaker 2: Also bringing with you the self proclaimed lost punk band Dwarves, Like,
- 13:54Speaker 2: have you ever called the mad on that title?
- 13:59Speaker 1: No, because Blood Guts and Pussy is such a perfect
- 14:02Speaker 1: record to me, that you know and not. And I
- 14:05Speaker 1: love a lot of their other records too, you know,
- 14:09Speaker 1: but like, very few of us get to do something
- 14:14Speaker 1: as important and relevant as Blood Guts and Pussy was
- 14:18Speaker 1: and remains. So yeah, sure, the First, the Last, the Alpha,
- 14:23Speaker 1: the Omega, you know, like it's it's and I love
- 14:26Speaker 1: Sugar Fix. Sugar Fix is, you know, kind of like
- 14:30Speaker 1: a grungy pop record, you know, but still a Dwarves record.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Thank Heavens for Little Girls. Another excellent record into the
- 14:42Speaker 1: nineties with the Dwarves are Young and Good Looking, another
- 14:45Speaker 1: excellent record, Come Clean, They're full of them. But Blood
- 14:51Speaker 1: Guts and Pussy, you know, whatever you want to call him,
- 14:54Speaker 1: the first last, that's it, and I'm not calling them out.
- 14:58Speaker 1: And he's a good friend of mine too. They think
- 15:00Speaker 1: they're all good friends of mine.
- 15:02Speaker 2: I've heard you know has released your latest album earlier
- 15:06Speaker 2: this year Cold, I can't even read my read my
- 15:10Speaker 2: writings su at a first and give me gimmes at
- 15:14Speaker 2: Medicines key something like I remember me.
- 15:17Speaker 1: We blow it me first and the gimme gimmes blow
- 15:20Speaker 1: it at Madison's Kineta, which is a fifteenth birthday party, uh,
- 15:25Speaker 1: for a young girl and that is the that is
- 15:30Speaker 1: to mark her passage into womanhood and the whole family
- 15:36Speaker 1: comes out. There's kegs, there's liquor, there's everything, party favors,
- 15:45Speaker 1: there's drunk uncles. And I've always wanted to play when
- 15:50Speaker 1: we played a bar mitzvah and were a cover bands,
- 15:54Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We're we're not above playing
- 15:57Speaker 1: like no event is too obscure or nominius for for
- 16:01Speaker 1: a cover band that's worth its salt. And uh, that's
- 16:05Speaker 1: what I like to think that we are. And uh
- 16:08Speaker 1: so yeah, we played at kintonetto party. There were no
- 16:11Speaker 1: fans of ours there, so uh it was so when
- 16:15Speaker 1: we alienated the crowd at the beginning, it was a
- 16:19Speaker 1: much more uphill climb. It was much bigger challenge to
- 16:25Speaker 1: get them back into the fold, but we did. And
- 16:29Speaker 1: I think that sort of like that arc uh makes
- 16:37Speaker 1: for exciting listening more so than say like Frampton comes Alive.
- 16:42Speaker 1: You know, like if we were to do anything on
- 16:46Speaker 1: one of our records to uh, you know, sort of
- 16:49Speaker 1: post production stuff, we'd be taking applause away, whereas like
- 16:53Speaker 1: Peter Frampton would be adding it. Because I think it's
- 16:56Speaker 1: much funnier, you know, to hear people that you know,
- 17:00Speaker 1: they don't know who the band is, they maybe think
- 17:03Speaker 1: that that her dad hired the wrong band or something,
- 17:06Speaker 1: because because that's that's what, honestly what it felt like.
- 17:09Speaker 1: If you you ever see the movie Parenthood with Steve Martin,
- 17:14Speaker 1: do you and do you remember when Cowboy that when
- 17:17Speaker 1: when when the stripper shows up instead of the cowboy,
- 17:19Speaker 1: That's kind of what the kinds and Yetta was was
- 17:22Speaker 1: was like and uh, but when we played an Olivia
- 17:28Speaker 1: Rodrigo song, that was when we really got the kids
- 17:33Speaker 1: on their feet. Prior to that, it was tough. It
- 17:35Speaker 1: was really touch and go, Like they were leaving at
- 17:39Speaker 1: at points throughout the set as I was begging them
- 17:42Speaker 1: to move up to the dance floor, instead, they were
- 17:45Speaker 1: leaving and going out to the backyard to I don't know,
- 17:48Speaker 1: to vapor TikTok or whatever whatever kids are doing these days.
- 17:54Speaker 1: And uh, but the Olivia Rodrigo song, it it filled
- 18:01Speaker 1: the floor. They started dancing. They liked Abba Abuelo dug,
- 18:07Speaker 1: the that's Grandpa he dug, the uh, the Spanish songs
- 18:12Speaker 1: and all told. When we were driving back up to
- 18:16Speaker 1: San Francisco the next day, I was looking at pictures,
- 18:21Speaker 1: and even with the pictures, even with photographic proof, I
- 18:25Speaker 1: still couldn't believe that it actually had happened, that it
- 18:29Speaker 1: was something that I not only had gone through, but
- 18:31Speaker 1: I had played and sung and you know, dressed up
- 18:36Speaker 1: and everything. It was like a dream.
- 18:41Speaker 2: You guys have played everywhere from Bob Mitzvah's te Quincinnata's
- 18:45Speaker 2: stages all across the world. I have been. Is there
- 18:47Speaker 2: any way you wouldn't play.
- 18:51Speaker 1: No, I don't know right off the top of my head. No.
- 18:57Speaker 1: Let's yeah, we know we have played everything. Man. I played.
- 19:00Speaker 1: We played fireworks night. This is years ago in my
- 19:04Speaker 1: hometown of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. It's an old steel town, used
- 19:08Speaker 1: to be a steel town back when they used to
- 19:10Speaker 1: make steel there, but always a Sportstown and on Fireworks Night,
- 19:19Speaker 1: and it was three nights of fireworks and I used
- 19:22Speaker 1: to go to it when I was a kid at
- 19:24Speaker 1: when it was at a different stadium. They knocked that
- 19:26Speaker 1: stadium down. Now it's PNC Park and fireworks Night gets
- 19:33Speaker 1: all of the people from the entire region of like
- 19:35Speaker 1: western Pennsylvania, eastern Ohio. Everybody comes in for fireworks Night.
- 19:41Speaker 1: And they didn't know who we were. I don't know
- 19:44Speaker 1: why the Pirates organization hired us, but they did, and
- 19:51Speaker 1: we had not practiced in about a year. We were
- 19:56Speaker 1: assigned the songs that we were to play at the event,
- 20:00Speaker 1: and as it turned out, they were. We were there
- 20:05Speaker 1: and again they were chosen for us. One of the
- 20:07Speaker 1: songs was the fight songs for a bitter rival of
- 20:11Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Pirates. So the booing started, I remember, and
- 20:16Speaker 1: it was kind of quiet at first, and then it
- 20:21Speaker 1: just started to swell and crescendo and all the why
- 20:25Speaker 1: while there are these like m five hundred fireworks being
- 20:31Speaker 1: set off like bombs from the baseball field. We were
- 20:34Speaker 1: out like by second base, so luckily out of projectile range,
- 20:39Speaker 1: but and fireworks going off from barges on the Allegheny
- 20:45Speaker 1: River from the US Steel Building, and this is all
- 20:48Speaker 1: in my hometown. So it was like kind of like
- 20:51Speaker 1: being on acid without having actually taken anything. And uh, finally,
- 20:58Speaker 1: at one point, I want to say, there were a
- 21:01Speaker 1: good thirty thousand people booing us in Unison, and so
- 21:06Speaker 1: they wheeled they wheeled the mobile stage back into the
- 21:11Speaker 1: bowels of the of the ball park as I did
- 21:14Speaker 1: like a Princess Die kind of wave, and and people
- 21:18Speaker 1: from the Pirates organization advised us to stay. You guys
- 21:21Speaker 1: should probably stay here for a good hour two hours,
- 21:25Speaker 1: just to make sure that there are no disgruntled fans
- 21:28Speaker 1: left outside. And and then the next morning I got
- 21:31Speaker 1: the news that we were had been summarily fired from
- 21:34Speaker 1: the following two fireworks nights. And we had to negotiate
- 21:39Speaker 1: a being paid for two days instead of just one,
- 21:43Speaker 1: you know, because they tried to because we went out
- 21:46Speaker 1: there playing to play all three nights.
- 21:50Speaker 2: They couldn't.
- 21:52Speaker 1: I had a notion that it wasn't going to go well.
- 21:54Speaker 1: But so maybe no more sporting events, Spike or.
- 22:00Speaker 2: Thanks for your time today might be the pleasure studding
- 22:03Speaker 2: me first and Exears are in Australia from October thirtie
- 22:06Speaker 2: if they go everywhere except Tasmania and the Northern territories.
- 22:09Speaker 1: So see you on the road brother, Yep, not you, Darwin.