Jordan Schneider Thinks the Real AI Race Is About Compute, Not Models

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Episode: Jordan Schneider Thinks the Real AI Race Is About Compute, Not Models

Pub date: 2026-07-28

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In this episode of The Spillover, host Sebastian Mallaby sits down with Jordan Schneider, founder and editor-in-chief of the ChinaTalk podcast and newsletter, to discuss AI progress and security, as well as the U.S.-China AI rivalry.

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Sebastian Mallaby, Paul A. Volcker Senior Fellow for International Economics, Council on Foreign Relations…