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Dallas Braden’s A’s checkup & Mariners piggyback pitching rant · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a's, shall we? Dallas Braydon joining us. We're
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Speaker 1: excited to chat with him. You can hear him on
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Speaker 1: as broadcasts also the pod Baseball is Dad, Dallas, Good.
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Speaker 2: To see you.
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Speaker 1: Let's start with the headliner. What do you have for
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Speaker 1: us on the a's right now? Do you think they
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Speaker 1: have a chance at the division.
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Speaker 3: As we see it right now where we sit at
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Speaker 3: top of the division right And I think you got
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Speaker 3: to say that with bita breath, why well, because we
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Speaker 3: understand that it's not a very strong division at this
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Speaker 3: point in time. Competitive sure, but is there a powerhouse
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Speaker 3: right now in the division that looks to take control
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Speaker 3: of it? Absolutely not. And so that's why you respect
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Speaker 3: the fact that you are where you are, and when
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Speaker 3: you start to assess how you've gotten there, it's been
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Speaker 3: really a mixed bag of results because you've had some
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Speaker 3: good starting pitching efforts, you've had some bumpy starting pitching efforts.
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Speaker 3: You've seen the bullpen show up and do well at times,
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Speaker 3: and you've seen the bullpen kind of collapse at times.
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Speaker 3: From an offensive perspective, I think what's most impressive about
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Speaker 3: what the athletics are doing right now is the fact
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Speaker 3: that they are a top of the division, albeit just
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Speaker 3: by a slim margin. You have not had some of
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Speaker 3: those stalwarts start to click and perform to the extent
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Speaker 3: that not only do they as individuals expect, but I
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Speaker 3: think the entire group would expect. Right, you haven't seen
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Speaker 3: Brent Rooker go on that huge tear like you're used
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Speaker 3: to seeing at times. Tyler Soderstrom, Lawrence Butler. These are
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Speaker 3: guys who are going to be mainstays in the middle
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Speaker 3: of this lineup, and they're just not quite who they
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Speaker 3: have been in the past. I always make sure that
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Speaker 3: we highlight a guy like Carlos Cortes, because when Brent
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Speaker 3: Brooker went down, it was Carlos Cortez who stepped up
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Speaker 3: and delivered and delivered in a massive way. And he
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Speaker 3: still continues to deliver. He's now getting the starts out
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Speaker 3: in right field, as opposed to Lawrence Butler, who again
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Speaker 3: is under contract and will be a part of this
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Speaker 3: team as they move into Las Vegas. Now, what you
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Speaker 3: need is you need guys like Carlos Cortez to step up.
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Speaker 3: You also incourage some injuries. You lost Max Munsey, who
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Speaker 3: was swinging the bat well, So what happens is zach
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Speaker 3: Geloff comes up, you lose Denzel Clark. Zach Geloff goes
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Speaker 3: and plays center field in the big leagues for the
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Speaker 3: first time and adjusted fairly quickly, fairly well. But he
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Speaker 3: slides over to third base. What does that do? That
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Speaker 3: frees up room for Henry Bolte, who at the time
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Speaker 3: of his call up had gone twelve for twelve in
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Speaker 3: triple A, twelve trips to the dish, twelve knocks in
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Speaker 3: a row. Kind of hard to do. So he swung
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Speaker 3: his way to the big leagues. And it's been a
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Speaker 3: combination of seeing these guys come up and implement it
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Speaker 3: into the lineup, not only born out of necessity, but
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Speaker 3: also as I mentioned, guys have performed their way into
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Speaker 3: the fold. So right now, I think, with what we
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Speaker 3: have on the horizon, which is Gage Jump just recently
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Speaker 3: called up to the big leagues, he will be on
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Speaker 3: the bump today. You're going to get a look at
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Speaker 3: what the future could hold. Unfortunately, Aaron Sabali, after last
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Speaker 3: night's outing undisclosed injury at this point in time, will
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Speaker 3: probably be making a trip to the injured list, as
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Speaker 3: Mark Caste mentioned, So you hope he's okay, because he
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Speaker 3: was honestly probably the most stable starter that we had
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Speaker 3: seen from start to finish. He was the guy who
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Speaker 3: got the team the first win of the season, got
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Speaker 3: the starting rotation their first win of the season. JT Ginn,
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Speaker 3: who had been performing well, was carrying a no hit
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Speaker 3: bid into the ninth inning and then back that up
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Speaker 3: with a bit of a clunker career high six walks.
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Speaker 3: So I think what you're taking away from this is
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Speaker 3: there's just been some inconsistency all around. But again, the
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Speaker 3: impressive part is that they are in first place in
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Speaker 3: their division with what I would consider a lot left
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Speaker 3: to be desired really in all phases of the game.
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Speaker 4: Okay, Dallas, do you think they can they can hang
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Speaker 4: on and win this division? Even Seattle, I want to say,
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Speaker 4: is going to figure it out at some point. Texas
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Speaker 4: is Houston, I don't think is very good. I think
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Speaker 4: this is gonna be a battle between the A's and Seattle.
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Speaker 4: Do you think that possibly, with all the things you're saying,
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Speaker 4: will the A's for once go out and get some
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Speaker 4: reinforcements at the trade deadline if there's a spot for them,
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Speaker 4: will they be willing to give up some of these
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Speaker 4: problems suspects to get some reinforcements to help them try
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Speaker 4: to win for the first time in a while.
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Speaker 3: It's a great question to Jay, and I think historically
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Speaker 3: what they have proven is, and you know this, both
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Speaker 3: you and Cratza both know, if we as a team,
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Speaker 3: if we as the unit in the room, are performing well,
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Speaker 3: you almost force the hand of the front office. Give
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Speaker 3: give us a reason, give us a reason to go
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Speaker 3: out and supplement you guys, give us a reason, just
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Speaker 3: strengthen our position. And what I want to believe is
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Speaker 3: that will be the case. And I have reasons to
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Speaker 3: believe from the past that that will be the case. Right,
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is a team if you remember years ago,
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Speaker 3: went out and brought in John Lester into the fold.
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Speaker 3: Albeit they said goodbye to the guy who was hitting
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Speaker 3: in the meat potatoes of the order, Yona Cesspitis. And
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Speaker 3: we can talk about how that went or did not
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Speaker 3: go all you want, but I think they have shown
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Speaker 3: in the past that if we are in a position
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Speaker 3: to make a move, to make a push, just show
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Speaker 3: us that we're in that position, and we will do that.
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Speaker 3: And so I think what you want to do is
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Speaker 3: you want to be able to take hold of the
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Speaker 3: division so that there's a real need and an obvious
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Speaker 3: need to strengthen that position, and you don't want to
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Speaker 3: look back. You don't want to have to continue to
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Speaker 3: adjust that rear view mirror. And who is it? Is
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Speaker 3: it the Mariners that are on our heels because obviously
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Speaker 3: the Mariner's in town right now. With just that what
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Speaker 3: one one and a half or whatever it is lead
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Speaker 3: in the division, like I said, very minimal, But I
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Speaker 3: do believe that this group has the ability, has the
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Speaker 3: ability to once they start to click, you're going to
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Speaker 3: see them take off. And I think that right there
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Speaker 3: is going to be their biggest addition is really guys
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Speaker 3: just starting to fire. Because when you have a third
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Speaker 3: of your lineup that has just sort of underperformed and
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Speaker 3: it's a big part of your lineup, and you're getting
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Speaker 3: the productivity from some role players that you did not
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Speaker 3: expect it from, that has to give you a little faith,
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Speaker 3: That has to give you a little hope and optimism
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Speaker 3: for what happens during the summer when those guys that
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Speaker 3: I mentioned do start to turn it on, because I
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Speaker 3: think they'll be able to create a little separation that
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Speaker 3: you just haven't quite seen yet.
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Speaker 5: All right, Where's Where's that separation coming from on the mound, though,
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Speaker 5: where's that separation when when the heat of the summer,
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Speaker 5: when the ball really starts flying out of out of
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Speaker 5: I don't even know what it is, Suitter Park, Sutter Park,
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Speaker 5: but it is. It's it's not just going to help
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Speaker 5: these this lineup. It's not gonna help Lawrence Butler hit better.
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Speaker 5: It's not gonna help Brett Rooker get get hotter like
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Speaker 5: he normally is. It's tough to pitch there. And I'm
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Speaker 5: not even talking about reinforcements, because you have to win
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Speaker 5: with the core that you have there and the cores
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Speaker 5: in that lineup, this rotation. Is it good enough to
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Speaker 5: say we're going to go into a series against a
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Speaker 5: hot hitting team and shut them down or is the
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Speaker 5: belieguer not belieguer bullpen. But the fact that you lose
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Speaker 5: a guy like Mason Miller, Mason Miller at the end
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Speaker 5: of your bullpen from last year pushed through to this year,
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Speaker 5: and it just kind of is a little bit of
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Speaker 5: a lesser a lesser group than they could have had
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Speaker 5: had they not made the move to get rid of Mason.
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Speaker 3: Everybody likes to be able to build backwards from the
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Speaker 3: back end of the bullpen right gratch you when you
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Speaker 3: can account for Alt's twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven,
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Speaker 3: and it makes the job a little easier to start
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Speaker 3: deploying those guys who are going to be that bridge
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Speaker 3: and be the back end. And so it's understood you
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Speaker 3: don't have Mason Miller anymore. But what you do have
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Speaker 3: as a group that I think Mark Costse with all
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Speaker 3: due respect, has done a really good job of deploying
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Speaker 3: and in an admirable fashion. Because you don't have a
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Speaker 3: ton of horse power down there, and that's understood, you
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Speaker 3: need guys like Joel Koonel, who came up and was
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Speaker 3: outstanding in some closing roles. I mean, he's got four
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Speaker 3: saves under his belt. We've seen Mark Leider closed ball
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Speaker 3: games at the end. And I'm not telling you that
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Speaker 3: these guys are go to overpowering arms, that there's going
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Speaker 3: to be doors getting beat down to acquire at the
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Speaker 3: deadline should the a's be out of it. What I
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Speaker 3: am telling you is that everybody is going to have
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Speaker 3: to do their job. And we can talk about Sutter
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Speaker 3: Health Park just in the same breadth as we talk
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Speaker 3: about course Field, right. It is what it is, so
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Speaker 3: we can spend our time complaining about the yard, or
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Speaker 3: we can spend our time trying to figure out how
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Speaker 3: we are going to strategically maneuver our resources so that
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Speaker 3: gives us the best possible chance to get these outs.
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Speaker 3: And however that may be, whether it's matching up from
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Speaker 3: the fifth inning on which you hate to do, and
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Speaker 3: I should say the sixth inning on it, because if
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Speaker 3: you're squeezing, squeezing five innings were the juice out of
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Speaker 3: your starter I think this day and age, unfortunately, and
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Speaker 3: I think you two would agree with me, that's unfortunate.
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Speaker 3: That's not a great thing to be excited about, is
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Speaker 3: getting five innings from your starting pitcher. So I think
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Speaker 3: being able to squeeze as much as you can out
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Speaker 3: of that rotation, especially at home, is ideal because now
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Speaker 3: it just makes it easier to cover those nine to
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Speaker 3: twelve outs at the end of the ball game with
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Speaker 3: guys who you can match up against numerically and data wise.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's ultimately how that has to be done,
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Speaker 3: is if there's high swing and miss guys that are
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Speaker 3: coming up and guys who are able you can expand
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Speaker 3: the zone on. I mean we've got a guy like
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Speaker 3: Scott Barlow who's not going to overpower you eighty nine
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Speaker 3: to ninety one from the right side out of the bullpen.
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Speaker 3: I think of a lot of guys pitching in big
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Speaker 3: league bullpens today woke up with Scott Barlow stuff. They'd
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Speaker 3: start to try to figure out how to sell insurance.
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Speaker 3: Would they would be afraid to go out onto the mound.
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Speaker 3: And Scott Barlow has done a magnificent job with what
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Speaker 3: he's got, and he's a spin doc. He can spin it,
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Speaker 3: and he can spin it consistently, and he's found ways
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Speaker 3: to navigate. So you just want to take the lead,
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Speaker 3: I think, and take cues from guys like him who
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Speaker 3: go out and compete, because at the end of the day,
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Speaker 3: there's no iPad out there with you on the mound.
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Speaker 3: You have to figure out ways to get outs. Especially
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Speaker 3: it's Sutter Health Park where clearly it's a favorable condition
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Speaker 3: for hitters.
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Speaker 5: All right, watching I mean gauge gauge jump. Might be
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Speaker 5: he might be taking an iPad out there, because the
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Speaker 5: way the ball comes out of his arm is pretty
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Speaker 5: pretty legit. But is there an expectation that this guy
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Speaker 5: is going to do exactly what I was asking, like,
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Speaker 5: somebody that solidifies this rotation, or is this just a okay,
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Speaker 5: it's fine all the things you just said. If we
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Speaker 5: get five out of him, that's fine. Because he's a prospect,
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Speaker 5: we want to baby him. Or is this a we
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Speaker 5: hope he hits his hits the ground running and helps
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Speaker 5: take this rotation to be one of the top two
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Speaker 5: guys in the rotation by the end of the year.
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Speaker 3: Well, who would not hope that this dude comes up
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Speaker 3: and puts a stranglehold on one of these spots in
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Speaker 3: the rotation. Right there's a reason you're getting called up
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Speaker 3: to the big leagues, and it's because you have performed well.
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Speaker 3: And whether you want to call it a combination of
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Speaker 3: need and performance, I'm okay with that. But the fact that, look,
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Speaker 3: I've watched Gage jump very closely. I watched him all
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Speaker 3: of Big League camp this year when I was in camp,
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Speaker 3: I watched him last year. This is a dude who
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Speaker 3: gives you every reason to believe that once he starts
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Speaker 3: to get comfortable at this level, he will take off.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's why you put the responsibility on
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Speaker 3: his plate at this moment right now, is because it's
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Speaker 3: hey man, you have the ability to go up here
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Speaker 3: and not only get outs, but do so in dominant
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Speaker 3: fashion at times we need the help here. This is
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Speaker 3: what getting called up to the big leagues is all about. Now.
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Speaker 3: The tricky part is being able to manage that young player,
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Speaker 3: that young pitcher managed the responsibility of taking care of
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Speaker 3: him and also, and it results oriented business, go win
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Speaker 3: ball games. Because if we're talking about a pitch count
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Speaker 3: scenario where he's at eighty eight ninety pitches through five
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Speaker 3: and we feel like you could probably get him through six,
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Speaker 3: we're at home. That would help. What decision are we
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Speaker 3: making at that point in time. That's where it gets
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Speaker 3: a little tricky for the staff and for the front office,
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Speaker 3: because we understand it's a combination of those two bodies
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Speaker 3: that are going to be making those decisions. So with
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Speaker 3: that being said, there's no reason to believe that gauge
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Speaker 3: jump with his arsenal, with his stuff. I mean, I
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Speaker 3: love everything about the dude. He's a competitor. He's got
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Speaker 3: the low slot, high ride fastball, he can spin it,
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Speaker 3: he's got a change up that's been working like There's
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Speaker 3: a lot to like about what comes with gauge jump,
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Speaker 3: and I think right now the last test is just
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Speaker 3: to see what it looks like at the big league level. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 3: I think for a lot of people, they're saying, man,
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Speaker 3: is there somewhere else we could start him outside of
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Speaker 3: Cutter Health Park. You know what, there's gonna be a
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Speaker 3: point time in his career. He's got to pitch at
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Speaker 3: course field, like I said, And all you're gonna have
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Speaker 3: to do is focus on getting the guy in the
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Speaker 3: box out and forget about where the walls are, forget
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Speaker 3: about what sort of altitude you're at. You just you
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Speaker 3: got to.
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Speaker 4: Compete Dallas, the guy behind you. I think that's the
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Speaker 4: guy behind you in the picture, Nick Kurtz. Is everyone
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Speaker 4: just afraid to throw to him? Yeah?
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Speaker 5: Right there?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, yeah, And it's okay.
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Speaker 4: It's I mean, everyone's just afraid to pitch him. I
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Speaker 4: mean he gets on base like three times a game.
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Speaker 4: Two of them are by walks, and then he usually
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Speaker 4: does damage on the other time. I mean, I haven't
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Speaker 4: seen anything like this in a long time. I mean,
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Speaker 4: his eye is that good or they just don't want
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Speaker 4: to throw him strike.
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Speaker 3: It's a combination of both. I think he's earned the
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Speaker 3: respect based on what he put together over the course
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Speaker 3: of his rookie year. We're talking about a dude who
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Speaker 3: twenty straight games right put the papers on him and
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Speaker 3: walked his way into the history books. And that's what's
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Speaker 3: most impressive about this young fella is it's a power
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Speaker 3: and patience combination that has resulted in what we're seeing
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Speaker 3: unfold right now, chasing Big Mac in terms of that
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Speaker 3: on base Street. And obviously macketts sixty eight games was
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Speaker 3: over the course of two seasons. So what we're seeing
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Speaker 3: from Nick Kurtz, and this is what we saw when
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Speaker 3: he first showed up to the big leagues, boys, is
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Speaker 3: there wasn't a ton of power present early on, but
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Speaker 3: what you saw him was work the baseball all around
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Speaker 3: the field, take his knocks, especially with guys in the
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Speaker 3: scoring position. He understood very early what the responsibility was
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Speaker 3: of him and where he was in the lineup. If
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Speaker 3: I've got guys on second and third less than two outs,
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Speaker 3: our three run homer, sexy. Absolutely, is that kind of
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Speaker 3: what the A's offense has been geared on for a
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Speaker 3: while now, Yes, it has, But when you have a
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Speaker 3: dude like that who knows that he can put the
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Speaker 3: ball in play hard somewhere, and it doesn't have to
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Speaker 3: be over the wall. You've watched him mature. I've watched
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Speaker 3: him mature right before my very eyes. It's tough to
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Speaker 3: think that you were going to see a guy who
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Speaker 3: was already so adept at the art of hitting take
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Speaker 3: a step the way he has. And I got to
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Speaker 3: give him a lot of credit because at the beginning
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Speaker 3: of the season, there was a hole that hitters or
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Speaker 3: there was a hole that pitchers were attacking, and he
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Speaker 3: was a little off balance. There was some adjustments he
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Speaker 3: made with his swing, and before you know it, he
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Speaker 3: started to click. And I'll be honest, we still haven't
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Speaker 3: really seen that big power run that we all know
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Speaker 3: he's capable of. But in lieu of that power, you
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Speaker 3: are watching him with an incredible, incredible display of plate discipline.
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Speaker 3: And again I always tell this story. I spoke with
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Speaker 3: Jim Tomby in Detroit a couple of years ago, I
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Speaker 3: think it was last year's rookie year, and Jim Tony,
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Speaker 3: for thirty minutes, referred to him as a slugger no
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Speaker 3: less than fifty eight times, And mister Toby looked at
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Speaker 3: me and was like Gallas. I was pretty good in
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Speaker 3: my day, right, Yes, sir, mister Toby, you were very good.
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Speaker 3: You were very good. And he said, I understood the
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Speaker 3: value of what it meant for me to go up
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Speaker 3: there and take my knocks, pound the ball the other
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Speaker 3: way and not worry about getting the head out going
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Speaker 3: pullside jumping ship because I wanted to feel good about it.
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Speaker 3: I knew what the team needed. I see this kid,
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Speaker 3: I see this in this kid, Dallas. He's going to
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Speaker 3: be a slugger in this league for a long time.
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Speaker 3: When Jim Tolmy, when Jim told me, lauds you like that,
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Speaker 3: you shut up, you listen, And I listened to every
15:35
Speaker 3: single word that mister Tomy had to say. And I
15:38
Speaker 3: have watched every bit of what he was looking at.
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Speaker 5: All right, MVP talk was talked about with Shay Bangaliers. Now, yeah,
16:49
Speaker 5: I get it. He hit a little bit of a slide.
16:52
Speaker 5: Here's average slid all the way to like three hundred.
16:54
Speaker 5: When he was hitting I think he was leading the
16:56
Speaker 5: league for a little while, but has he taken a
16:59
Speaker 5: next step in a change in an approach that got
17:03
Speaker 5: him not just average but also as dingers. I think
17:06
Speaker 5: he's got thirteen or fifteen now, whatever it is. Has
17:09
Speaker 5: he changed it this year? And was there something in
17:12
Speaker 5: this last little recent slide that couldn't make my MVP
17:16
Speaker 5: candidate continue to slide the rest of the year.
17:19
Speaker 3: Cratsy, our our MVP candidate. I'm gonna tell you right now,
17:25
Speaker 3: from the mouth of from the mouth of Kurts to
17:28
Speaker 3: my ears. I was talking to Curtsey at the beginning
17:31
Speaker 3: of spring training probably we're probably two weeks into this,
17:33
Speaker 3: and I looked at Curtsy. I said, that's different. That's
17:37
Speaker 3: not just a nice run right now that I think
17:40
Speaker 3: Langoliers is on. I'm watching a dude right now before
17:42
Speaker 3: my very eyes just get better. He's come into camp
17:46
Speaker 3: the last two years in better shape than he was
17:48
Speaker 3: the year before, which is very impressive because Langoliers is
17:51
Speaker 3: a very, very athletic individual, a very strong dude. We're
17:55
Speaker 3: talking about one of the fastest guys in baseball, believe
17:58
Speaker 3: it or not. Check the numbers. Fastest backstop in my
18:00
Speaker 3: opinion by a large margin. This dude was faster than
18:03
Speaker 3: Estuary Ruiz in his rookie year when SD broke the
18:06
Speaker 3: rookie stolen base record. Check that. But for Langoliers, I
18:10
Speaker 3: think the same thing that we saw with Kurtz. It's
18:12
Speaker 3: about making the adjustments to the opposition. As the book
18:14
Speaker 3: goes out on you and they start to peel back
18:17
Speaker 3: the layers of who you are as a hitter, pitches
18:19
Speaker 3: that you're getting to, incounts that you're getting to. It's
18:21
Speaker 3: up to you now to start to be able to
18:23
Speaker 3: regain some of that count leverage and understand where you're
18:26
Speaker 3: going to be attacked and can I now expand and
18:29
Speaker 3: can I go there? And I think Langoliers has shown
18:31
Speaker 3: the ability to adjust now right now, it's a look,
18:34
Speaker 3: it's a long season, and we understand what kind of
18:36
Speaker 3: start he got off to, and there's going to be
18:38
Speaker 3: I think with that kind of start, there's gonna be
18:40
Speaker 3: some expected mild regression. I think that's where we're at.
18:42
Speaker 3: But he just banged one out of the yard last night,
18:44
Speaker 3: OPO backside in Gale force wins at the ballpark that
18:48
Speaker 3: we're blowing in the opposite direction. I mean, it takes
18:50
Speaker 3: a grown man to do what Shaye Langoliers has done
18:53
Speaker 3: this year, And I have no reason to believe that
18:56
Speaker 3: Shaye Lengliers won't continue to trend positively, even though it
19:00
Speaker 3: might feel like it's gotten a little quiet here as
19:02
Speaker 3: of late.
19:04
Speaker 5: All Right, you saw Luis Castillo kind of get a
19:07
Speaker 5: little angry, get actually really pissed off about the whole
19:10
Speaker 5: piggyback situation from a former starting pitcher, Give me your
19:15
Speaker 5: take on that scenario. One, how was handled? Two, what
19:20
Speaker 5: you're talking about as a starting pitcher when that happens
19:23
Speaker 5: to you or when this kind of stuff is brought up.
19:27
Speaker 3: Well, there's a whole lot of context. I think that
19:28
Speaker 3: we have to understand about this situation. First and foremost, One,
19:31
Speaker 3: we're talking about a guy who, up until his first
19:34
Speaker 3: outing out of the bullpen, had made two hundred and
19:36
Speaker 3: fifty two appearances in the big leagues, each and every
19:40
Speaker 3: one of them starts. Every time he touched the ball
19:43
Speaker 3: in the big leagues, he was starting a baseball game.
19:46
Speaker 3: So you're now going to tell that individual that things
19:48
Speaker 3: are going to change a little bit. And we've got
19:51
Speaker 3: a guy who's going to be starting before you. You're
19:53
Speaker 3: going to be coming out of the bullpen. You have
19:55
Speaker 3: now asked this individual who knows nothing but how to
19:58
Speaker 3: prepare as a starter, to quickly figure out how he's
20:02
Speaker 3: going to make those adjustments. That's I think the first
20:04
Speaker 3: layer of context. The second layer of context is which
20:08
Speaker 3: conversation was had with Castillo. Was it a definitive you
20:12
Speaker 3: will be going four innings best case scenario, you're getting
20:16
Speaker 3: four innings under your belt. I don't care if you
20:18
Speaker 3: get through four innings on forty six pitches. Four innings
20:21
Speaker 3: is what it's going to be. If that was the conversation,
20:24
Speaker 3: then there is that understanding in the mind, and you
20:28
Speaker 3: can be frustrated that you got through your four innings
20:31
Speaker 3: as efficiently as he did. But when you're out of
20:34
Speaker 3: the ballgame, you're out of the ballgame. Now. If that
20:37
Speaker 3: wasn't clearly communicated and it was a four or five innings, hey,
20:40
Speaker 3: we'd love to get four or five out of you.
20:43
Speaker 3: If I'm Luis Castillo, I react the exact same way
20:47
Speaker 3: he did, because if we're falling in love with the
20:50
Speaker 3: metrics of the way that we have and we're allowing
20:52
Speaker 3: those to steer the ship of decision, making his average
20:54
Speaker 3: fastball velocity on both of the heaters, albeit minuscule, was
20:58
Speaker 3: up in that fourth inning from where he's guarded his
21:00
Speaker 3: first inning at So what do we pay attention to, boys?
21:03
Speaker 3: We pay attention to two things, the baseball and the
21:06
Speaker 3: other team. Those are pretty good indicators on how things
21:09
Speaker 3: are going for the man on the mound. And if
21:10
Speaker 3: you're not catching as many balls as you'd like, and
21:12
Speaker 3: you're pitcher spending more time backing up third base than
21:15
Speaker 3: he is on the bump, that's a problem. The baseball
21:18
Speaker 3: and the other team have told you that things aren't
21:20
Speaker 3: quite working out well. The ball was coming out as
21:22
Speaker 3: clean as ever for Castillo last night. Six punch outs,
21:25
Speaker 3: sixty seven percent first pitch strike. Rady was getting ahead.
21:28
Speaker 3: There wasn't a whole lot that I didn't like about
21:31
Speaker 3: what I was seeing from Castile. I talked about the
21:33
Speaker 3: swings that the A's were taking. I talked about the
21:35
Speaker 3: swings that they could not take and could not get
21:38
Speaker 3: off via the deception. I mean, he was dotting glove
21:42
Speaker 3: side two inches off, starting a ball coming back over
21:44
Speaker 3: the black. They just couldn't pull the trigger. Castill was rolling,
21:48
Speaker 3: and so for him to come into the dugout and
21:50
Speaker 3: exude the emotion that he did. That's what led me
21:53
Speaker 3: to believe that there might not have been a clear
21:56
Speaker 3: conversation that was had with him. That four to five
21:59
Speaker 3: inning conversation is what I think probably happened, and that's
22:02
Speaker 3: why Castillo was lobbying in the moment to get back
22:05
Speaker 3: out there on the mound. And I said, so as much,
22:08
Speaker 3: Dan Wilson is not making those decisions all his own.
22:11
Speaker 3: Let's be clear about that, because that fella understands how
22:14
Speaker 3: important it is to have communication for a starting pitcher.
22:17
Speaker 3: And whether or not we hear anything about how that
22:20
Speaker 3: communication went, that remains to be seen. But if I
22:23
Speaker 3: was Louis Castillo, I would have reacted the exact same way.
22:27
Speaker 3: And let's not forget the other guy that came in,
22:30
Speaker 3: Bryce Miller. This dude has made seventy six starts in
22:34
Speaker 3: the big leagues prior to last night, so all he
22:38
Speaker 3: knows is how to start baseball games. And he said
22:41
Speaker 3: as much, it's not really ideal, it's not really comfortable.
22:43
Speaker 3: I had to figure out a couple days before how
22:46
Speaker 3: I was going to try to go about my preparation.
22:48
Speaker 3: And that means everything from getting warm in the dugout
22:50
Speaker 3: or excuse me getting warm in the clubhouse and going
22:52
Speaker 3: through your pregame routine. There, I broke it down where
22:54
Speaker 3: if you're somebody who's watching video on that day, when
22:57
Speaker 3: and where do you have the opportunity to do so
22:59
Speaker 3: while wile still maintaining your physical preparation getting out into
23:03
Speaker 3: the bullpen. I was a guy who would play catch
23:05
Speaker 3: a long toss on my start days, falulpol to foul pole.
23:09
Speaker 3: He doesn't have that opportunity. There's a baseball game going on,
23:12
Speaker 3: so he's now got to get hot in the bullpen.
23:14
Speaker 3: Those are all just very different elements to the preparation
23:17
Speaker 3: that I think you kind of dismiss, but you just
23:21
Speaker 3: simply can't because that impacts the guy's ability to prepare mentally.
23:25
Speaker 3: You're checking boxes throughout your preparation that allow you to
23:28
Speaker 3: get comfortable with what you're about to go out and do.
23:31
Speaker 3: And that's why it's a huge adjustment. And I felt
23:33
Speaker 3: that with the dirt under the spikes of Luis Castile,
23:35
Speaker 3: there was every reason to have clearly communicated to him
23:39
Speaker 3: what was happening. And if it was a four to
23:41
Speaker 3: five inning combo, damn it, give him the ball for
23:45
Speaker 3: that fifth inning. How do we not. He hadn't had
23:47
Speaker 3: a good start essentially until his first start of the season,
23:50
Speaker 3: and you could argue his next best start came against
23:53
Speaker 3: us the A's when we were in Seattle. It had
23:56
Speaker 3: been few and far between, I mean seven point three
23:59
Speaker 3: four er over eight starts. After his first start of
24:02
Speaker 3: the season. He was looking looking for something to build
24:06
Speaker 3: confidence on it. It was right there in front of him,
24:09
Speaker 3: right there, in front of the whole dam organization.
24:12
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
24:14
Speaker 1: That's the fire, that's the finishing fire, right there, Dallas.
24:17
Speaker 1: And that's why we wanted to ask you about it.
24:19
Speaker 1: It's tricky, but man, you want to get Luis Castillo
24:22
Speaker 1: rolling again.
24:23
Speaker 2: This is a tough spot for him. Great insight. We
24:25
Speaker 2: gotta jump, We got Colton Cows are waiting for us.
24:28
Speaker 2: But you're the man, Dallas. Really appreciate it much more
24:30
Speaker 2: from Dallas every day of course on ACV and then
24:33
Speaker 2: on the Baseball is Dead Pod. Thank you, man, Appreciate you.
24:36
Speaker 3: We'll see you boys have a good one.
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Speaker 1: Ke Hernandez is back and apparently he was pretty banged up.
25:52
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25:55
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Speaker 2: Medical issues for the players.
26:01
Speaker 1: Said he couldn't believe key K played through the injury
26:04
Speaker 1: that he had last year.
26:05
Speaker 2: He said it was the worst that he's seen.
26:07
Speaker 1: Of that kind. Key K was called up yesterday and
26:14
Speaker 1: ella trash. He wanted Andrew Friedman to know it, so
26:18
Speaker 1: he made him repeat it to let him know that
26:21
Speaker 1: he better bring him back for this season because he
26:23
Speaker 1: was playing through that for the team. So you never
26:26
Speaker 1: know what's really going on, but that actually gives some
26:29
Speaker 1: credence to you know, his performance in the regular season.
26:33
Speaker 2: Right.
26:34
Speaker 4: He had a good game last night too. We had
26:35
Speaker 4: a huge ovation. He just brings some different to the
26:38
Speaker 4: table for that team. It's it's he brings an energy.
26:42
Speaker 4: And again, I saw the Dodgers on Saturday and they
26:45
Speaker 4: were talking about KEYK coming back and they were excited
26:48
Speaker 4: and the fans are excited. He just he just it's
26:50
Speaker 4: something he brings to that organization that they don't have.
26:53
Speaker 4: And uh, he had a nice game last night. Welcome
26:56
Speaker 4: back he K. It's it's I like watching KEYK play.
26:58
Speaker 4: It's fun, it's energetic, he enjoys it. It's it's it's
27:02
Speaker 4: it's it's fun to watch.
27:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had offse's and elbow surgery basically right after
27:07
Speaker 1: the World Series. There's another example of the player who
27:10
Speaker 1: does not get much loved by the numbers anymore. But
27:14
Speaker 1: if you watch the games, you're like, Okay, he brings
27:17
Speaker 1: the energy.
27:17
Speaker 2: And there's a timeliness component. Hm, there is. Not every
27:22
Speaker 2: ab is traded the same.
27:23
Speaker 4: It's just not don't tell don't tell people that. Yeah, no,
27:27
Speaker 4: they'll tell people that the down nine nothing homer means
27:30
Speaker 4: as much as the homer that Cole and cows are
27:32
Speaker 4: at the last two games. Yep, because that that's not true.
27:36
Speaker 5: What are you talking about, Scott? He's got a career
27:37
Speaker 5: ninety one ops plus disgusting.
27:41
Speaker 2: Why is he even out there exactly same page.
27:46
Speaker 5: He's got so many he's got so many rings and
27:49
Speaker 5: things that why Why did the Red Sox pay so
27:51
Speaker 5: much for him? Why did you know? Because they they
27:54
Speaker 5: saw there's something different. And I'm not saying you need
27:57
Speaker 5: to be a try hard to be something different, but
28:01
Speaker 5: a guy like Key k plays the game, puts himself
28:04
Speaker 5: in situations that helps his team win, and maybe doesn't
28:10
Speaker 5: necessarily get the stats that say, now could he have
28:13
Speaker 5: not helped the team win and gotten his stats. I
28:15
Speaker 5: can't say that either. But a winning player does what
28:19
Speaker 5: it takes to be able to have success out there
28:22
Speaker 5: for his team, and Key K does it the only
28:26
Speaker 5: way he knows how. He's not trying to be somebody
28:28
Speaker 5: he's not. He is just him and they love that energy.
28:31
Speaker 5: And I think he will have a one year deal
28:34
Speaker 5: until he's ready to be done with the Dodgers.
28:38
Speaker 1: And also, while we're talking about doctor La Trash, so
28:42
Speaker 1: we had Keith Meister on a couple of years ago
28:43
Speaker 1: and it was one of the better interviews we did.
28:46
Speaker 1: Will Carroll from Injury Territory, our injury show on the
28:49
Speaker 1: FT Network had Doctor La Trash on for fascinating combo.
28:54
Speaker 1: We'll give you a minute peek here and then I
28:56
Speaker 1: encourage you to check it out at some point where
28:57
Speaker 1: you got a long car ride or after the show.
29:01
Speaker 2: It's a good one.
29:03
Speaker 7: You know, baseball's been living in this cycle where elbows
29:07
Speaker 7: either rest or break or they get rebuilt. When you
29:11
Speaker 7: first saw the nanoscope, did you immediately think this could
29:15
Speaker 7: change the whole intervention timeline?
29:19
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, for certain things, I thought that this would
29:23
Speaker 8: be a lot less traumatic that we could, especially with
29:28
Speaker 8: procedures that the length of recovery was entirely dependent on
29:34
Speaker 8: how much surgical trauma you you did. In other words,
29:40
Speaker 8: you know, we weren't waiting for tissue that was torn
29:45
Speaker 8: to heal after it's repaired, so you know, that takes
29:48
Speaker 8: a you know, a certain amount of time that's pretty
29:51
Speaker 8: well known, and so you know, but if you're not,
29:56
Speaker 8: if you're not repairing tissue and you're simply taking things
30:02
Speaker 8: out of a joint that shouldn't be there, then really
30:06
Speaker 8: the length of time it takes to recover is mostly
30:10
Speaker 8: related to the trauma that you that you uh, you know,
30:15
Speaker 8: cause whenever you're you're doing the procedures. So so the
30:19
Speaker 8: the smaller the instruments, the more delicate, and uh, the operation,
30:25
Speaker 8: the you know, the I think it's going to be
30:27
Speaker 8: directly related to improved cover recovery time.
30:31
Speaker 2: So good stuff there.
30:35
Speaker 1: Well, Carol does a great job, and he pops up
30:37
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Speaker 1: the show. But that's a really good interview to dive into.
30:49
Speaker 1: And the concept here is you've got surgery. I mean,
30:51
Speaker 1: you guys have been through this, not much, but surgery
30:54
Speaker 1: arthroscopic surgery. Now it's like just a little needle and
30:58
Speaker 1: a band aid essentially with the nano needle.
31:02
Speaker 2: I'm exaggerating a little bit there.
31:03
Speaker 4: I was already chucking off a mound.
31:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's back really soon.
31:08
Speaker 1: That's probably gonna do what one or two rehab starts,
31:10
Speaker 1: and then he'll be back when he's ready for rehab starts.
31:13
Speaker 2: But that should be soon.
31:15
Speaker 1: There was a time when we were like, oh, it
31:16
Speaker 1: might not be till mid August. Then he gets the
31:18
Speaker 1: nanoscope and we're like, uh, he's coming back in June.
31:22
Speaker 5: There's not even nice stitches. You gotta wait. You gotta
31:25
Speaker 5: wait a few days just to let the stitches heal,
31:27
Speaker 5: because then you can't get you get an infection. So
31:29
Speaker 5: every day that a pitcher doesn't pitch, it's two more
31:32
Speaker 5: days on the back end. So the fact that you
31:35
Speaker 5: don't have that is crazy. It's definitely a breakthrough. Nobody's
31:38
Speaker 5: doing a nanoscope on a Tommy John surgery because you
31:41
Speaker 5: have to let the ligament heel. But something like Scuball
31:43
Speaker 5: had that's awesome.
31:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now Blake Snell has had it too.
31:49
Speaker 9: The jump from Triple A to the big leagues is
31:51
Speaker 9: never easy, but maybe it's a little bit easier if
31:53
Speaker 9: you've been pitching in Las Vegas, which is one of
31:56
Speaker 9: the most inhospitable places for a pitcher to pitch throw,
32:00
Speaker 9: you know in there. Gage Jump is also made a
32:01
Speaker 9: start there. But Gage Jump is coming up for the
32:04
Speaker 9: A's has kind of made the adjustment. He had a
32:07
Speaker 9: rough April, but a very good May pitching for Triple
32:11
Speaker 9: A Las Vegas. Now he's coming up to the big leagues.
32:13
Speaker 9: We are talking about one of the better pitching prospects
32:15
Speaker 9: in the game. A left hander who can sit in
32:17
Speaker 9: the mid nineties, can touch ninety eight ninety nine, and
32:20
Speaker 9: has a pair of you can call it a sweeper,
32:22
Speaker 9: you can call it a cutter or a gyro slider.
32:25
Speaker 9: It gets a small, breaking power slider. He throws both
32:29
Speaker 9: of those for strikes. He throws both of those a lot,
32:32
Speaker 9: and it kind of gives hitters a variety of different
32:35
Speaker 9: looks of change ups. Not as good, but it's usable.
32:38
Speaker 9: But this is another pitcher to help kind of give
32:40
Speaker 9: a boost to the A's. The A's had a very
32:43
Speaker 9: intriguing top of their farm system coming into the year
32:46
Speaker 9: thanks to Jump and Jamie Arnold. Here comes Jump to
32:49
Speaker 9: the big leagues and hey, it's gonna be tough, but
32:51
Speaker 9: it's not gonna be that much tougher maybe than pitching
32:53
Speaker 9: in Las Vegas.
32:55
Speaker 1: It's a good comp there from JJ Cooper, Right, haven't
32:59
Speaker 1: we talked about how the minor league gap is getting
33:01
Speaker 1: pretty large, But if you're coming out of one of
33:04
Speaker 1: those parks, they might not feel as bad.
33:06
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's also going to place where the ball
33:08
Speaker 4: flies too, and Utter Health Park whatever it's called, So
33:11
Speaker 4: we'll see. Yeah, I mean there is a jump, There
33:14
Speaker 4: is a learning curve. That's why most teams like their
33:19
Speaker 4: Triple A to be close to where they play so
33:21
Speaker 4: that they can get used to the conditions. And so
33:24
Speaker 4: I mean Vegas to Sacramento will probably be pretty close
33:28
Speaker 4: because the ball flies in both. So we'll see. You
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Speaker 4: wish the kid good luck and maybe us usually either
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Speaker 4: go really good or really bad.
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Speaker 5: Yep.