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Patriots Unfiltered 5/17: 2022 Schedule Review, Ranking the NFL Road Trips, Vince Wilfork Gets Patriots Hall Call · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Be suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to bait. We gets unfiltered. Eric's not here today, He's
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  Speaker 1: um it's his term with Doctor Jellyfinger. He's taken one
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  Speaker 1: for the team. You're sending the squatty putt. He's probably
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  Speaker 1: gonna come back all like cocky about it. Like the
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  Speaker 1: doctor said, Mike colon was as clean as anything he's
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  Speaker 1: ever seen it. You could eat off of my colon,
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  Speaker 1: because I think the best teams have a blend of
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  Speaker 1: veteran experience in youth, and they don't. That's my point
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  Speaker 1: that Joe's pretty young, but I feel like they got
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  Speaker 1: rid of three of their oldest lineback offensive linemen can
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  Speaker 1: play longer. Again when I use the terms like always, never,
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  Speaker 1: no one, everyone, like, I don't mean those terms literally.
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  Speaker 1: Words have meaning, Paul, I don't tell other people what
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  Speaker 1: to think, like you do well done, steak, don't do it.
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  Speaker 1: There's certain things. There's just certain things you know, with
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  Speaker 1: some really really good offenses, like I don't what I
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  Speaker 1: agree with Mike Chris Harper Hoppers, Harper's ball, Harper's muff,
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  Speaker 1: Harper's moth, not as falling, Harper's Sam says, thanks for
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  Speaker 1: giving us a podcast. That's third one another one with
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  Speaker 1: nine thirty three. I'll try that again. This is Patriot's Unfiltered,
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  Speaker 1: fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. We
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  Speaker 1: crack ourselves up. Uh. It is Tuesday here at Gillette Stadium. Um,
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  Speaker 1: the rookies are here and they've been out there. Um
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  Speaker 1: and we've got photos on patriots dot com to prove it.
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  Speaker 1: So we're getting there. It's phase one or two. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure. I think we're in phase one. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think we're in two next week and then we'll see
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  Speaker 1: him Thursday. All the coaches, we'll thay. All the coaches
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  Speaker 1: were available yesterday and today, Yeah twice. Um, no one
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  Speaker 1: knows who's doing what, but that's okay. I think they
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  Speaker 1: do know. It's just a coordinator. A coordinator is still
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  Speaker 1: the thing that that everybody can't wrap their brain around.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, if I had a nickel for every time
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  Speaker 1: some reporter brought up that they didn't force the bills
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  Speaker 1: to punt once and the last two days it's come up,
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  Speaker 1: quite had to admit that I do it quite often
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  Speaker 1: as perfect. I would just say nobody does that more
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  Speaker 1: than friend. I mean, I mean, can it make some
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  Speaker 1: my punt? I mean that would be approvement. Can I
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  Speaker 1: make a punt? It's just startling. I do it here too.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same asking the coaches about it, I was,
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  Speaker 1: I was a little that's good for you? Good for
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  Speaker 1: you questions? Yeah, I know, I just hide in the
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  Speaker 1: corner and talk about it on the radio show. Just
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  Speaker 1: doesn't like tricky facts. What's tricky about it? But I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna defend myself a little bit here, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: you know what someone needs to, Yeah, someone needs to
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  Speaker 1: because I've been a proponent of this whole Patricia Joe
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  Speaker 1: justin like I like, I don't think that it's the
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  Speaker 1: greatest thing ever that we've got them, But I've said
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  Speaker 1: and I will stand by that, I think having been
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  Speaker 1: a head coach, for good or bad, gives them just
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  Speaker 1: that much more experience. So now that they're back here,
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  Speaker 1: you know, coaching a position or you know, something less
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  Speaker 1: than being a head coach, I think it helps them
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  Speaker 1: and I think that experience is valuable. And I and
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  Speaker 1: both of them said that yesterday, you know, because it
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  Speaker 1: was asked both of Joe, Judge and Patricia and they
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  Speaker 1: both said that you know, you know, having to do
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  Speaker 1: all those other jobs, you know, back when we were
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  Speaker 1: head coaches, it makes it. It gives us that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: bigger view of the whole picture and now and now
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  Speaker 1: when we go back to doing, you know, a particular thing,
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  Speaker 1: it helps us. My snarky Paul take on yesterday's availability
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  Speaker 1: with the coaches was that Patricia seemed like the happier
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  Speaker 1: of the two between him and Judge. Judge, Yeah, very
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  Speaker 1: jovial and willing to talk, appreciate you, yeah, and shout
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  Speaker 1: out to the media. Judge was very much the buttoned
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  Speaker 1: up guy that we remember, very straight lay. So my
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  Speaker 1: snarky Paul take was that Patricia's calling the plays and
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  Speaker 1: Judge is just handing on the quarterbacks. Nobody, nobody's told me.
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  Speaker 1: Ain't then, straight up, honestly going to tell you, I've
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  Speaker 1: not heard anything. No one, decisions have been made, and
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  Speaker 1: Matti P's like, hey, yeah, everything's right, I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 1: you know, are you're working with the old line and
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe other things. I still think Nick Cayley's
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  Speaker 1: in the running for that. But but do you think
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  Speaker 1: there's any way that they don't know yet play. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I just you think that they haven't decided
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  Speaker 1: who's calling the plays yet, correct. I think that's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I think it might be possible. Yeah, I don't. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who it is. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: pretend to tell you I have the information because I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be much like the schedule, I'll be the last
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  Speaker 1: to know. I just I could just see Bill saying
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  Speaker 1: we're not gonna worry about who's calling plays yet because
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  Speaker 1: we don't have a game until August. I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I think they know who's calling I think yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like they could do whatever they want. I
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  Speaker 1: don't like. I just don't think it's I could see it.
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  Speaker 1: I could see him not having discussed it yet, right,
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's the only element that people are
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  Speaker 1: really concerned about it. And I feel like it's gotten
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  Speaker 1: blown up a little bit too, you know when Paul
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  Speaker 1: pointed this out this morning, which is and I could
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  Speaker 1: let you point out again if you want, or I
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  Speaker 1: can walk you into it. I don't have to do it.
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  Speaker 1: It's on account of if I say a lot of
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  Speaker 1: stupid stuff when we're off the air, you know, on
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  Speaker 1: the air too. You can lead a policy idea what
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about, Well, I thought you were right with
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  Speaker 1: everybody's like, we have no idea who's doing what? I'm like, Well,
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  Speaker 1: they told you it's just the offensive who's calling the plays?
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  Speaker 1: That's what you don't know. I mean, Joe Judge came
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  Speaker 1: out and said, I'm working with the quarterbacks. Matt Patricia said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm working with the offensive line. Nick Kaylee's still working
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  Speaker 1: with the tight ends like they were. I know, I forbid, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's getting dragged a little bit too far.
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  Speaker 1: Just I get it. The offensive cordin great debate. How
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  Speaker 1: is that all going to play out the plate? But
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gotten blown up where they're not telling
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  Speaker 1: us who's anyone's doing anything you see. I think that
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  Speaker 1: that that's sort of missing. I agree with Mike on this.
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  Speaker 1: I think people are rightly concerned, but for the wrong reason.
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't like the options if like I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they have a guy who's capable of calling plays
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  Speaker 1: or a proven let's put it this way, proven a
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  Speaker 1: proven play caller. Is that a better way to put it?
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  Speaker 1: They don't have a proven play caller, but like the
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  Speaker 1: fact that I don't know who it is. That that's
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  Speaker 1: not part of the worry. I don't need to know
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  Speaker 1: who it Even if you knew who it wasn't feel
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  Speaker 1: gat about it because you don't like it. They don't
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  Speaker 1: feel exactly. I think that you're You're kind of right.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's too much being made of it. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's an issue and a concern, but it's not
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  Speaker 1: for the reasons that a lot of people were concerned about.
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  Speaker 1: And to Mike's point, like sometimes you step away. You
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  Speaker 1: guys were here listening to the coaches yesterday and I wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: I had a day off yesterday, and in full disclosure,
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  Speaker 1: I was about eight eight middle. I'd steep by the
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  Speaker 1: time those coaches were talking. And the coaches started at
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  Speaker 1: eleven thirty. Yeah, I don't think and I started starting correct. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I had a golf tournament, not a golfing going on,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fun um, A lot of references to
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots by the way, but you know, we'll get
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  Speaker 1: to that. You know, I'm famous. What are you gonna do? Um?
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  Speaker 1: Just from Afar and I'm you know, I'm looking at
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  Speaker 1: Twitter and I'm you know, in between holes. Every once
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  Speaker 1: in a while, you're looking like, yeah, like that nobody
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  Speaker 1: will get into anything, like, you know, to Mike's point this,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he and I talked about it. No one,
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  Speaker 1: no one's gonna get into the details of what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, Mike Reese full quote from Joe Judge,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be working with the quarterbacks. M full quote from
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  Speaker 1: Man Patricia, you know expects me working with the offensive.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, they're telling you what they're doing, right, Like
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  Speaker 1: they're not telling you who's calling the place. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the only ones that were kind of like I thought,
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  Speaker 1: Steve Belichick was intentionally vague and obviously he knows what
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  Speaker 1: he's doing, and he said he didn't know what their
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  Speaker 1: being vague about it, right, you know, So if you
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  Speaker 1: wanted to get technical, I guess maybe they were talking
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  Speaker 1: about Steve Belichick. But to Mike's point, the other guys
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  Speaker 1: are basically telling you what they're going to be doing now,
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  Speaker 1: I think. But I think if I had a concern
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  Speaker 1: about it, it would be why are we having seemingly
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  Speaker 1: having auditions for who's gonna be your offensive coll And
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  Speaker 1: that's why I think they're not well, I think that
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  Speaker 1: they know we just don't know. Well, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: I broke the job of offensive coordinator into three parts,
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  Speaker 1: and in some teams one guy does it all, and
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it's broken up. You got your architect, your game planner,
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  Speaker 1: and then your game caller, your play aller. So who's
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  Speaker 1: going to do each of those or is one person
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  Speaker 1: doing it all? I don't know, but but it's important
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  Speaker 1: to answer that question. Who's the architect of the offense,
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  Speaker 1: Who's who's putting in the game plan, and then who's
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  Speaker 1: calling the plays? I don't know. Yeah, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: offense I don't think structurally, fundamentally is going to change
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  Speaker 1: all that much. I think it's the same offense that
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  Speaker 1: Brady ran for twenty years before. Here, it's the Ray Perkins, right.
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  Speaker 1: They might not have them, that's that's their system, right.
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  Speaker 1: They might not have used as many of the plays
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  Speaker 1: in the playbook last year because they had a rookie
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  Speaker 1: who didn't know all the plays, But it's the same.
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  Speaker 1: I think the same offense. It looked pretty much the
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  Speaker 1: same with a few wrinkles. Here are they going to
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  Speaker 1: accentuate different things based on the strength of Mac Jones
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  Speaker 1: and who the personnel? You know, they have to work
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  Speaker 1: with will be. But I think it's important for not
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  Speaker 1: us so much as the players to know who do
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  Speaker 1: I go to who's in charge when when I'm on
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  Speaker 1: the field, I don't just go to my position coach,
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  Speaker 1: who is in charge of this offense. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: important for the players to know that more than it
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  Speaker 1: is for us to know it. It It would be great
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  Speaker 1: if we could know it too. But and maybe maybe
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  Speaker 1: they do. Maybe they do know it, And then and
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  Speaker 1: the coaches are being intending Bill, No, I think they know.
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  Speaker 1: I think the coaches themselves know what's going to happen. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: then for a guy like Joe Judge to come out
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  Speaker 1: and say that no decisions have been made, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: been told. Either he's lying or they're really keeping him
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  Speaker 1: in the dark, and that to me isn't good. Either
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  Speaker 1: or he ain't the guy, That's what I mean. Either
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  Speaker 1: they didn't tell him or he's he's lying, Like and
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  Speaker 1: they didn't tell him, you know, there is the guy.
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  Speaker 1: They're in shorts. It's they're not running plays. But like,
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't if you're the gonna be the guy that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be the architect, game planner at least you want to.
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  Speaker 1: You look at it with a certain eye, even with
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  Speaker 1: what's going on now, like, Oh, this guy really looks
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  Speaker 1: good running that route. This guy's hands. I'm not sure,
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  Speaker 1: but I kind of think Bill has always been the
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  Speaker 1: game planner for offense too, Yeah, for everything. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I thought lately Josh he left that to Josh.
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  Speaker 1: But maybe you might be right. But I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: go back to a thing that we always cite, the
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and nine documentary that fulfills all the answers
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  Speaker 1: to all of our questions for every sou that was.
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  Speaker 1: I know it was a long time ago. Yeah, a
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  Speaker 1: long time. Josh has been back. I think I think
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  Speaker 1: Bill has given him the reins. I don't. I think
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  Speaker 1: he called the place. I think Josh called the place.
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  Speaker 1: I think I don't think he was the game planner.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. Again, that doesn't make me right, No, I know,
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  Speaker 1: I know it's hard. It's hard to say. Was all
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  Speaker 1: part of like Bill opening up world? Yea, yeah, A
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  Speaker 1: whole new world on my carpet YEA. A couple points
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  Speaker 1: I just want to make is that, like I understand
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  Speaker 1: what Mapatrician and Joe Judge says said yesterday. Of that
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  Speaker 1: we have been in this system for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: We can teach this system, you know, the terminology, the
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  Speaker 1: places that they're at right now. Um, But I have
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  Speaker 1: the same kind of concerns and I hear what Eric's point.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, and I hear your concern two. Fred
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  Speaker 1: of I've looked at the coordinator as kind of I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to call him an artiste, but somebody who's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit above the fray, who's thinking about strategy
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  Speaker 1: and those things. And you know, Ken, a guy who
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  Speaker 1: goes Wednesday Thursday Friday practice coaching the offensive line or
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday Thursday Friday practice coaching Mac Jones specifically Ken. Those
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  Speaker 1: guys manage both of those things and go from such
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  Speaker 1: a micro coaching standpoint to the more macro kind of
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  Speaker 1: point of view of an offensive coordinator, where you got
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  Speaker 1: to take in all the pieces and put just added
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  Speaker 1: a concern. For me, I didn't even think of it
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  Speaker 1: that well. But but Josh did that for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: He was quarters. Yeah, he focused on the quarterback right
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  Speaker 1: and that and that makes sense, I think to Joe,
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  Speaker 1: if you said it was going to be Joe Judge, Okay, fine,
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's in there, he's gonna be sitting with Mac.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, if it's Maddie p does that mean well,
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  Speaker 1: I guess Billy Yates maybe is talking on the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line about what they need to correct. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: think about all the times I've heard soundbites from Dante
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  Speaker 1: Scarnecki and all the things that he would be sharing
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  Speaker 1: on the sideline with the offensive line. If Matatricio's call
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  Speaker 1: him plays, you know, well, like your third string guy,
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  Speaker 1: it's as the one who's coaching. It's funny. I did
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  Speaker 1: get a chance to talk to somebody this offseason who
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  Speaker 1: was in coaching. Yeah, story that I'll never be aired,
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  Speaker 1: and was asking him about a previous season when a
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  Speaker 1: certain player and I forget who it was, was the
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  Speaker 1: position coach and he laughed, He literally laughed out loud,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, what's so funny? And he goes
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  Speaker 1: that dude wasn't my position coach. He said it said
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  Speaker 1: it in the media guy, but he wasn't my position coach.
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  Speaker 1: He never did anything with us. It was in name only.
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  Speaker 1: It was this other guy who was like a coaching assistant,
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  Speaker 1: who did all the work. So in this scenario, Deuce
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  Speaker 1: It's possible that Maddie p could be listed as offensive
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  Speaker 1: line coach, but Billy Yates is actually doing all the
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  Speaker 1: work and Maddie P is being the offensive coordinator. It's possible,
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  Speaker 1: Obviously it's possible. But I would say if Patricia truly
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  Speaker 1: is the old line coach on game day two, and
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  Speaker 1: when the offense comes off the field, he's the one
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  Speaker 1: going and doing what they did with them telling him
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  Speaker 1: what they did wrong, then I think, to me that
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  Speaker 1: should should rule him out for calling plays, because I
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  Speaker 1: would as a head coach, I want his focus being
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  Speaker 1: on the old line so that he knows what to
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  Speaker 1: tell them when they come off the field. Juice's point
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  Speaker 1: is that Ed hadn't really thought about it that way.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, I don't. Don't. Then there's another level to
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  Speaker 1: two with whatever Matt Patricia was doing last year as
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  Speaker 1: the Ernie Adams role. So now you might not even
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  Speaker 1: be just losing your offensive line coach if he's calling
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  Speaker 1: the plays, you're also losing an eye in the sky,
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  Speaker 1: right Concilierre to Belichick. So it's I mean, it's thin,
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  Speaker 1: it's thin. I respect those guys. I'm happy you know
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  Speaker 1: that they're in the mix. I know that they know
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  Speaker 1: what they're doing, but I, like you guys, I have
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  Speaker 1: concerns of how is it going to be an offense
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  Speaker 1: that hits the next level with this kind of you know,
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  Speaker 1: Hodgepodge style a little bit. Yeah, and you know the coaches,
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  Speaker 1: as we've been talking about since the show started. That
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  Speaker 1: that's obviously the main news. But we also made an
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  Speaker 1: announcement today with Vince Wilkie. Yeah, officially official, the latest
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  Speaker 1: member of the Patriots Hall of Fame. And uh, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that comes as a huge surprise to most people,
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  Speaker 1: fan favorite, obviously a great player in Tennessee, just going yeah,
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  Speaker 1: another year ring a congrats to big Vince. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I think everyone on the ballot this year will get
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  Speaker 1: in eventually. I just think that it was Rabel's turn.
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  Speaker 1: But that's just me me too. I think I threw
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  Speaker 1: a few votes to Rabel yesterday just to see if
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  Speaker 1: it was more than once. I could do that three
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  Speaker 1: three times the Chicago just three early and often that's
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  Speaker 1: the Chicago way. So yeah, So congratulations to Vince. That'll
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  Speaker 1: be fun having him back up here whenever they decide
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  Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah. I asked a couple of the
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  Speaker 1: coaches this morning. In the first part just about Vince
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  Speaker 1: liked hearing DeMarcus Covington, d line coach now was here
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  Speaker 1: later than after Vince had retired, but still said that
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  Speaker 1: they put him up all the time in terms of
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  Speaker 1: his film as how they want guys to play and
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  Speaker 1: the ability. I think that was what was impressive to
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  Speaker 1: me just as a fan back then, was Vince's ability
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  Speaker 1: to kind of look like a nose tackle. But I
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: think in twenty and eleven especially, I think of that
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Ravens game, Sorry Paul, to bring that one up in
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, just where he was dominant, I mean, just
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: as as dominant as a defensive lineman can be. Um
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: moving him a variety of blaze, you know, Gerabmeo saying
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: you know, he played him at nose, then all of
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: a sudden we move him outside to d end and
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: every single time that you knew the team was running
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: the other directions. So, uh, he was awesome player. I
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: know he's beloved and hopefully we're able to have a
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: big ceremony here this summer. Get get all the crowd out.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: I know he'll he'll get a good turnout. Yeah, that's
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: good stuff. I wish we knew, like, you know, the
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: actual vote count, like how close it was, you know,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, my guess is it wasn't all that close.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: But that's again they kind of like the who's calling
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: the place? I have no idea, just my guests, mostly
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: health secret yea, and a couple of transactions as well, yeah,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Eric King, Eric King, Yeah, and as well as Devin Hafford,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: who was the cornerback, not the next settlement nothing. And
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: the other thing we have to talk about because we
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: haven't had a show since is the schedule. Oh wow,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: the schedules out. Eric, the schedule came out. Yeah, I
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: didn't even realize. Yeah, it's amazing. In the off season,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: things get buried major pieces like that, right. Yeah, so
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: it was a big Thursday. Night Fall has been playing
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the role of pall over the reaction to the schedule.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: I think it's a tough it's a tough road. I
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be a tough road no matter
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: how they knew. But opponents, I was a little concerned
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: about the schedule, but a lot of twenty fourteen similarities.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: That's kind of what I wrote about in my analysis.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Starting with two games on the road, the first one
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: being in Miami at one o'clock. Just like in twenty fourteen,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: you got the nice week ten by, which is always
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: good to have it. Roughly around mid season, you got
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: the back to backs in the South in the desert,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: which we thought was going to happen. They requested and
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: was granted, So expect them to probably be out in
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: uh uh, probably stay in Arizona, not go to Vegas
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: for the week. But yeah, I wouldn't blame Bill if
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: he wants to keep them away exactly far away from
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Vegas as possible. But we were kind of speculating Jetfish
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: is still at Arizona right, University of Arizona, so maybe
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: they coordinate and use his his facility over there. It's
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: thinking you know, um and ending with Buffalo again, that's
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: gonna give you a little like. Yeah, that was what
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: stuck out to me a little bit was the same
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: afcast common line up with bookends on the Dolphins Jets
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: bang bang in the middle, and then at the end
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: with the with the Bills. Yeah, that was odd that
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the similarities with the Miami early late, Buffalo both late
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: and the Jets kind of in the middle. That's exactly
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: the way it was last year for me. It's just
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: selfish reasons. But two Thursday night games in a row,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: one of Thanksgiving, thanks four night games in a row,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: and then four night games in a row. Yeah, we
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: might do something with the postgame shows that months. Hardy
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: called me yesterday, Freddy saw up make him in a
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: little half hour, how about ninety minutes from Yes, I
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: feel like I'm optimistic right now because it's all those
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: one pms to start twenty five, but a lot of
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Sunday and then you're gonna get to that essence, the
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: essence now we do the show's right, the pre and
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: postgame shows I have Hardy and I have Deuced. Those
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: are my two co hosts, right. The essence of both
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: of them were on full display when the when the
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: schedule came out, Hardy four primetime games in a row
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: with question marks and Deuce ten one o'clock games glasses
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: half full, I guess, yeah not butchered at all. Tough schedule.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Um and and the Raiders preseason game that was that
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: was a surprise away. And now we're speculating if we
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: might be able to go out there and do join practices,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: and I mean with the Giants. First, they've always kind
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: of done joined practices with them the third week, so well,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: it's funny, how are they gonna do working last Thursday?
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: About how the last time the Giants were the one
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: excuse me, the week one preseason game, and then they
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: may happen that it's one of those that when we
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: were talking about the fact that they might move that
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Giants preseason game, you know, like you listen to this show, Yeah,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: you might learn something, you might catch something like in passing. Yeah,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: we thought there was a chance of that based on
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: the schedule of events heater at Jolt Stadium. Yeah, And
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, are they gonna do three sets of joint practices?
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I mean sounds like the Panthers are already kind of
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: teed up. That was the rumor earlier in the offseason.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Matt Rule actually said it in March at the annual meeting.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: So it seems like a lot if they were going
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: to do well, it wouldn't surprise me. Though. Even if
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: they don't do it with the Giants, maybe they do
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: it with the Raiders because of Josh and it's a
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: big trip. Yeah, who knows. Just strange to go cross
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: country in the summer I see no reason to go
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: to Vegas for a preseason game unless you're planning on
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: doing joint practice. Right. It seems like a long haul
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: just to go there and play one meaningless game in
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: August Vegas August? Right, But didn't we hear rumors that
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: the Raiders were actually gonna come here and do a
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: joint and then everybody was going to go back. Well
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: either way it could either well I like, I like
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: your way better, but either way, yeah, something we won't
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: find out about it. You know, if we were like
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: anywhere near like Vegas itself, and I'd say, sure, I'll
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: go to Vegas for a couple of days, watch some
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: joint practices and you know, doors do they have are
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: the outdoor practice facilities? I don't. I don't know what
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: their facilities that will be. Could I worry about? You know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: it's it's unsafe. Well remember that, I mean in Tennessee
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: in human that that was as hot as you could
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: be on the practice field. Yeah, and the desert, well
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: it's a dry heat. I know. Well that's the funny
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: thing is like, Oh, they're getting ready for Miami, but
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, Miami, that's pretty humid. It's desert dry.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: It's not the thing. They have an indoor facility in Henderson, Nevada.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Family family out there. Now if we assuming that we
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: do have joint practices there, Fred and but I assume
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: we'll go out, you know, maybe we'll try to do
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the shows like we have the last couple of years.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Sure M, one member of our party will not be
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: making that trip. That's right, that's right. Yeah, Eric, you
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: have made a little announcement yesterday that Paul is still
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: reading and told me so when I came in this morning,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I think I got through Warren Peacefu. Yeah. This, uh,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: this is my penultimate show. Thursday will be my last one,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: and then Friday my last day with the organization off
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: to bigger and better things, let's hope. So. I don't
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: don't know exactly where or when or what I'm gonna
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: be doing next, but I think it's time to to
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: give it a shot. Yeah, not getting any younger. There's
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of things I like to do and want
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: to do, and you know this will free me up
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: to explore that. So I think, now, Freddie, if we
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: go to Vegas, will you come, No, doucet, it's gonna
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: be bad. I mean maybe I could be persuaded to try.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: We're gonna try to watch practice and run the show.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Not good. I mean, I'll go, but I usually do.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I'll come in before the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: we'd come back here. The good thing is the airport
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: is right, so you can get get off the plane,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: go hit a few rounds at the blackjack table, go
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: over to the practice facility. Yeah. I definitely could find
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: some time to do a little blackjack when I'm there,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I'll find some time to watch you do black jack.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Watch you what you've never played? Play? I can play.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Paul's a card counter, did you know? Are you? Yeah?
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Do you count the cards? I don't want to. I'm not.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting thrown on a trunk and driven on
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: the desert for you. I'm too stupid to count cars
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: like Kenjiong and the Hangover Dude out with my right,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: You're what that was a little unexpected frontal nudity on
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: that movie that I was I was not anticipating. Yeah,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I agree, so, and Matt, you'll be out with us
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: right holding down the fort. Won't be able to make
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: that drive though, not like the last time we flew
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: to Philly on Tennessee. I mean, you just had a
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: heart attack getting onto the playing with all your stuff
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: and they're like, you gotta repack that. That's too heavy,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: like drenched in sweats, bringing him back to Afghanistan. That's
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: a look at the preseason, you know, Giants, Panthers, Raiders,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: and it looks like, um all if at least two
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: out of three, but it looks like all are definite
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: candidates for some joint practices. Yeah yeah, and then you
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: start the season off with Miami in Miami. Yeah, so
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: that's what that's not. So that could be maybe why
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Bill wants to go to Vegas if he goes just timidity,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: dry heat, you know, thin out that blood. Although if
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be working out indoors, then not even get
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: the benefits. So what's the point. What are we doing? Well,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: we'll just tell Josh he wants to go outdoors. Tell
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Josh we're gonna practice in Miami because that's our first game.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Can you meet me in Miami. We'll join practice there,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: then we'll go to your place play the game. I
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: love it. I love it, and I would like to
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: hear what fans think about the Patriots. Uh's get your
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: release video with Ernie Adams. See what they thought if
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: they liked it or not. Also dropped a ranking which
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: you took me to task on a little bit yesterday.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Not only um say yeah he yes, he forgot the word.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: He did not like what happened. Oh he didn't like
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: my h he basically harumped it. My ranking. I did too.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: What ranking? I put out the ranking of all the
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: road trips. I've ranked the thirty two without guy, I
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: told you where I was, Paul, you haven't read it.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Without reading it? What do you think Eric ranked as
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: his number one destination? Oh, you're asking me to get
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: inside the mind of a genius. Yes, I don't. I
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: don't care for the sarcasms. Best your best road trip
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: thirty two? Yeah, and that includes that includes the international destinations,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: because to New York to Los Angeles. So you count
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: London in Mexico City and that's thirty two. Okay, then London, No,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: not number one, not number one okay close, but not
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: number one, not overseas. Yeah, I mean yeah, the other
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: one couldn't have been on these No, all due respect.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Let's see Eric's favorite road trip. I think food. Well,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: that's it's food. Food everywhere you go everywhere. I mean,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: that's what we do Saturday nights, we go out, right,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: you know, that's what we do atmosphere. I'm gonna say, Rain, Oh,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: come on Seattle. See, but what were you gonna say?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: He spoiled it? I was gonna ask Miami, But Seattle,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: he said, Rain, Yeah, like how Seattle. Seattle was a
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: good trip. Yeah, it would not have been my favorite,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: but but I I understand what he's talking about. Seattle.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I liked that trip. And again, it's not just you
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: fly in, you go to the game. That's not It
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: includes how long could you possibly stay? What's there to do? Shopping?
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: How good is the food? You know? How close are
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: you too? It's funny that that that would be so
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: good on his list, so high on his list, with
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: the food, with all the seafood, right, yeah, but there's
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: more than just the seafood. There's a good mix of
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: your variety of stuff. But like in Seattle might taste different,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the Pacific different. Throw the seafood you can. I've seen
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: them over there, I've been there, we have been. We
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: had him going right by, right, I was right by.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I took issue with that he did, but Bob took
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: issue because my last my my thirty second out of
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: thirty two was Bob's number one out of thirty two.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: What was that? What was that? Green Bay? Because of
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: the history, see that that makes that makes perfect sense, right,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: makes perfect sense. I'm green Bay. The fact that it's
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: lambeau Field doesn't put it high on my list exactly
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: right checks now. I don't know if it's last, but wow,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: because what would a trip to Green Bay looked like
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: for a fan? Like, exactly other than the game two
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: hours from the nearest two hours. And once you're there,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: what else you're there to do? You have to go
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: to the Green Bay's museum exactly, and then you don't appleton?
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: What's an appleton? So like, if you're an adult, yeah, yeah, right,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: if you're a guy, if you're an adult, you're flying
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: to Milwaukee, driving two hours, you know, maybe stay over
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: night in Milwaukee, you wake up in the morning, you
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: drive two hours to Green Bay, you go to the game,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: you drive two hours back, you fly home. Yeah, there's
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: nothing too. And Pittsburgh was another one high on Bob's list.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I like I like Pitts Pittsburgh's and I like it.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I do interesting little town. Yeah, I had him in
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: my third string. I broke him up into thirds just
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: to you know, sort of give him like a you know,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: like a depth chart starters, backups in third string, and
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh was high on my third string and then close
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: to being a backup. One he had really high was
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: the commanders, Washington commanders, which I completely disagree with. Well, Washington,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I do the state. I agree with you on that part.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I made all of our country. I may have missed.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I may have overly graded the stadium. It probably should
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: have been a C. I gave it a B minus.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: It's probably probably more of it. They're in Maryland. They're
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: not even in DC now, right, and you don't right, see,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I I'm jaded by all these by based on where
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: we stay right, like I've been able to like Buffalo
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: to me is a terrible stadium. Yeah, terrible, sorry, terrible city.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: But we always stay right where there's a million different
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: places to do something, so it's fine. Like it's like
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: it would probably be in the middle of my pack
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: right of road trips. Whereas like every time we've gone
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: to Washington, we've never been near Washington. Uh, well wee
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: one time we stayed down to season. No, it was
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: a regular season game in December in twenty eleven. Yeah,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: right after there was an Army maybe game there the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: night before, so the it was the gronk uh Brian Kerrigan. Yeah,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: but there was still Army in one end zone and
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Navy and the other end zone because they had just
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: played the game the night before. Rum. But we stayed downtown,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: right downtown. Why we literally like a ball away from
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the White House. It was awesome. Like I like Kansas City.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Kansas City's good. I like, uh, you know, and we
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: when we're grading these trips, are we doing everything well?
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: He I am convenience stadium gave a grade from the
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: stadium and then he gave it and then he combined it. Right.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I considered where the stadium is, how good the stadium is?
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Uh so what came out on top on that list?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Places like that I haven't been to, Like the Vegas one,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the LA one, um, yeah you know those are but
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: you see him on TV. Those Yeah, the Tottenham, the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: New Tottenham one. Those are ap Dallas Stadium. Dallas is
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: an A plus stadium, and I like, I like Houston
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: and Detroit for the stadiums themselves. I like Denver Stadium.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: See that's the thing, Like I said, Detroit should have
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: been high. Well that's the thing. Like I gave a
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: high grade for Detroit's stadium, a middling grade for the
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: locale because it's it's got some really rough edges to it.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: But downtown all the cities do. If you're only going
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: to be there for a night or two, there's a
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: lot of things to do. I get it. But I
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: didn't want to be like a Mike Mayock and have
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: like five ties for third place. That I made a choice. Yeah,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure he was not. Now, No, I don't.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Just like you know, I love Seattle. I haven't been
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: to anywhere near the number of stadiums you guys have
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: been to, but but Seattle was awesome. Yeah, Like I've
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: had them all. I've had them all over the world.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've talked about it before. The drum band,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: the convenience of all the bars, fans walking, the fans
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: walking in, how into it they were. Even in that
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: O eight game with Matt Castle they were out of
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, still it was totally the twelfth Man. Everything
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: was on the line. I thought that was just an
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I mean Tennessee because that's the top ten. Yeah, that's
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: one of my tempts. See, now that's a terrible stadium though. Yeah,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: it's a terrible But it looks like this one. It is.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: It's the same like this. It's the same, same market
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: and everything. Yeah, they just don't have a lighthouse juice,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: that makes sense, you know, no water, funny, but we
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: don't have a lighthouse. Now we get Nashville, and Nashville
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: is like party completely taken off into the greatest NFL destination.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: It's like great karaoke we had. I mean, how much
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: fun do we have that on that on that trip
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: this guy between Deuce and Matt, Yeah, you know, the
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: two new guys karaoke and and me and Matt no socks,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: just you know, what have we done sidling up to
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: the bar? You know, New Orleans is great because you
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: can walk everywhere. I can't say, I can't imagine there's
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: a better all around one than New Orleans. Yeah, any
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: any stadium that's within walking distance of the city gets
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: higher grades. You can't do anything still and walk from
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: wherever you wanted to do it to the stadium. You know,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: that's why, you know, Gillette Stadium. You know, no disrespect
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: to Patriot Place, but if it was in Boston, it
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: would have much the same stadium, Yes, much higher much Yeah,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: thank god for Patriot Place or the Hall. Like, I mean,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: what did they used to How do you pitch people
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: driving out here? Literally? True it still is in some
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: parts of one is a truck. But but Nolan is
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: like not just the Super Bowl weeks, which were awesome,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: but like there's all kinds of food. Then the food
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: is fantastical, music, the music, the culture and the environment.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: And then you go to the state even have there's
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: even a casino right there right like that within one
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: sea just I and I and New Orleans drops a
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: little bit on my ranking because the stadium is in
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: a good location. But the stadium itself is kind of
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: a dump. It's it's it's old, you know, it's old,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: it's stayed, it's kind of dumpy. So I factor all
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: these things in and I tried to make a where
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: did no one just finish? Uh it was like twelve.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I think it was like close to the Yeah, yeah,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: well it for me it is, but like that's that's
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the whole point. Like I wanted to be a list
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: where it exactly I didn't want it to be a
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: list where everybody was like, yes, that's exactly right. I
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: see with everything you have, you some days get back
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: to me and then you can go. I think you're right,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: and it's it's somebody who maybe is like a football
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: history crazy person that just wants to go to lambeau
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Field and experience that like for them that like that,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: That to me is ninety nine percent of why Green
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Bay would be on your list totally. That's I don't
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: really like the food, simply to say lambeau Field, right,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I just want to watch football and checking you're checking
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: a box off of your list. D You've been to
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Lambo a handful of times? Yes, Like was there anything that, like,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: any kind of experience that moved you in anything like
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: lunch moved me a little. But but but it's not
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: like your you know, like some people are really into
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: the history. Some people have no interest at all. I
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: would say Fred's like in the middle. I think Fred
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: appreciates it. I mean I like seeing the ring and yeah,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I mean like it. It wasn't it was like did
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I just treat walking into lambeau like I did any
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: other states? No. It was like, wow, this is Lambo field.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: But then I was like, okay, yeah, actually it's cool.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I also have memories a lot of history having to
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: climb a ladder to get into the press box, remember
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: where like it's like jungle gym and you know the
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: press box, the actual press box. Why would he be
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: in the that's only from with me and Andy os right,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: because you saw the ladder and you're like, nope, Eric,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I have to I have to be honest. I don't
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: have any recollection of any ladder. We were like, we're
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: like underneath like that, I have to go up a ladder. Fred,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: did you give me a boost? I think you would
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: remember going not quite I don't remember. It's not quite
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: like Buffalo where you walked through the concourse, you know.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: And but there was a point where we're walking like
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: literally like on like a great you would have you
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: would have gotten really scared because you don't like the greats,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: but do that, and we had to like climb up
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: like a staircase with like it was almost like a ladder.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's anymore. It was. It was the
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: last time we went like the Raven because that was
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: the only time I went, I was with you going
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: up a ladder. I was with you either, and you
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: were like, what are we doing? Like this is Gil
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Santos went up that? Yeah, no chance, Yes, how many?
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I think I might have only been there once. I
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: don't remember that in three two. Did you go in
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: two thousand and six for that five game Sante Samuel game? Yeah,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: sack five and knocked him out of the Samuel couldn't play?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: What was Mexico City? Like? I didn't it was I
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: wish we had one more day there because we just
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: literal really flew in at night and played the game
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: the next morning and we're out of there. But the
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: stadium itself was yeah, it was kind of beaten up.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: It was old, old stadium, yeah. Um. But the city
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: itself we stayed in at we stayed in like the
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Beverly Hills part of Mexico City. It was beautiful. Yeah. Um.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: So if we had one more day there, it would
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: have been great to go out to the Pyramid complex
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: out there, um, and just to do a little tursty stuff,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean some people in our party were there,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: like with the marketing, I think they were. They were
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: a couple of days early, so they were marketing the
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: market there. With the marketing, they have their junkets. They
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: have their they do they have junkets a unique location,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: so you know, give it a Vegas Yeah that twice.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, uh that's uh. Give it a look on
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Patriots dot com. Cenus your comments. They say what you
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: want to say about yer, rip rip it if you want,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: save them for next week and then right, and I
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: can't defend myself, all right. Five five PATS five hundred
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: is the eighth ticket hot line. Lots of talk about rookies,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: OTA's coming up up schedule release Eric's article. Um you
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: know all that stuff coaches availability yesterday and today. It's
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: actually going on now as we speak. Um so so
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: honoring du Yeah, I'm I should be over by now.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: It should be just about over. It sounds a lot
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: more play call talk. I'm seeing, you know, Joe Judge,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: more more of the same. We don't know who, but
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I'm ready and I'll do it if I have to.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: We just want to get you heard it yesterday, you
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: heard it today today. All right, So let's go to
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: the Ace ticket hut line. We'll start with Justin in Virginia. Hey, justin, Hey,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: how's it going, guys? Good? Hey, Jared gonna gona mystery man?
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you? Justin most definitely, Hey, So, I have kind
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: of a fan theory. Um. I think Pierre strong Bill
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: intends him to be, like, if he's good enough, he
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: intends him to be like one of the top two
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: running backs and kind of cycle in and with Steven
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: and I'll tell you part of like why so l
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Garrett when we had him, he like got to the
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: second level and he was just gone a lot of times.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: And I think that's part of Pere's strong skill set.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily saying they're the same player, but I
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: just think getting to that next level and just really
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: turning on the jets and just being gone, Like what
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: do you guys think of that? I think it's all
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: part of rotation. I mean, I think he'll be all
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: everly involved. I just don't think they overthink it too much.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I think they get a bunch of guys that they
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: like and they'll let the injuries and everything kind of
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: play out. I mean, there were a couple of times
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: last year they had got he like took him in
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: and it is just no matter what, no matter how
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: he plays, he's gonna be slotted into that role. But
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like I think he's thinking about like
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: life after Damian Harrison. I don't think he has that
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: skill set. Let this kid play more than uh he
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: lets a lot of these rookies play. Yeah, I think
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: that there's a big difference between what you're describing. Um.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: What I like about this pick is it kind of
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: goes back to the way they used to do it,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: and they have a key player in a role who's
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: nearing the end, and they don't wait for that guy
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: to go. They get the guy before he goes, Like
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Nate Solder before Matt White retired, you know Shane Vereen
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: or you know James White before Shane Vereen left. I
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: think Pierre Strong is here to replace James White. Now,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: whether he's able to do that this year or next,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know. That goes back to Justin's point about
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: how good he is. He's not an in between the
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: tackles runner la Garrett Blunt is three times the size
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: of Pierre Strong. Like like, I didn't say they were
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: the same type of player. I just meant like getting
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: to the second level as it's being gone. Yeah, I
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: don't think that he's going to get to the second
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: level as a ball carrier. Very awesome. Let's face it,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: when La Garrett Blunt got to the second level, it's
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: because the other team was way out of position, right,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: and he had a clear view to the end zone
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: and it happened. But it wasn't because of his speed, right.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: And I do think Pierre strong, and like I said,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: on paper, he doesn't look like he's a fit in
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: the passing game. But you know, I'm gonna sort of
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: trust a little of the you know, the people that
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I talk to on this a little bit that he
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: has some of these skills in his in his arsenal,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: and he is improving as a pass protector. He has
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: soft hands, can run routes and do all those kinds
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: of things. And I do think Justin's right. He's electric.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, he has elite, elite speed. So if you
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: could get this guy matched up on the edges, I
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: think he can make some big plays. I don't expect
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: that to happen between the tackles unless you're talking like
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: third and eight. We're gonna pop a draw here, and
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: then if if it opens to Fred's point, if it's
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: in guy's are out of position. Look out. I think
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: this guy's a home run hitter or big time. I
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: think he had something like, oh god, he had twenty
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: seven touchdowns or forty and more yards or something. I
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: forget the number now to have to go back and
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: look at my notes. But this guy is a home
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: run hitter if he's if you know, if he can
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, Patty's an agaham, what's up, Patty? What's
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: going on to the big guy? Hey, cousin Patty? It
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: was open? Uh. Fred I had a question about the
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: school work too afterwards, so I kind of wanted to
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: touch on what Paul was going off on on Thursday. Um,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: how he's a little bit worried and objectively, I don't
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: know how you can look at how this and I'm
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: speaking more specifically with the defense, with the amount of
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: turnover that they've had coming into the season. How any
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: fan that that that hasn't been watching this team to
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: the last twenty years or more like a lot of
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: us have, um, wouldn't be worried about how this team's
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: gonna do, how this team is going to perform. Now
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: where I'm coming from, I do think Max gonna be good.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to take that next step this year. Um,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: he loves football. I mean maybe he he tops out
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: after this year or next year. But with just all
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: new linebackers coming in, Ums and let us week to know,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: you only have two guys that have proven they can
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: get out of the quarterback, I don't know how you
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: can't be worried coming into the season. Yeah yeah, I
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: mean I'm with you. I'm with you. I mean, there
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: has to come a time that they were gonna have
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: to move on from Collins and those guys. And I think,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of us feel like, why did
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: we kind of go backwards last year? You kind of
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: had a chance. In twenty twenty, they have the reset
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: button to give some young guys a chance. And how
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: much did you really get out of that season? I
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: don't I don't think you got a lot. You kind
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: of went back to the old guys last year. And
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: you know, now it's you're you're right, you're tearing the
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: band aid off. I mean, these guys are you know,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: draft picks. There are significant capital invested in them, and
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: there's certainly are guys we don't really know, you know,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: had had it's just I think it's it's it's hard
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: because in one way, I think people just wanted them
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: to draft a new defense and put all these rookies in.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: And I think they have some young guys and it's
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: not as sexy because they've been around a little bit.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: And that's the part I like, you know, because I
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: expressed a lot of those concerns that that Patty was
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: talking about. It's it's the same theory I just used
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: with are Strong. It's don't draft you know, Josh Uch
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: and Ronnie Perkins and these guys now like the year
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: that Dante Hiitel is probably going to step away, and
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Jamie Collins and Kyle Vanouia're gonna go. They've been here
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: a little bit now, Perkins's second year, Ja's third, you know, mcgroan.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: You know, it was more of a red shirt kind
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: of situation. You have them in your system, they have
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: an idea of what they're expected to do, and now
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: you've got to find out if they can play right
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: and maybe one of those guys is the guy that
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: can get after the quarterback. Well, well you know that's
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: what you're hoping. I mean, you know, all valid questions
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: though Ben's and Maryland. What's up? Ben? Hey guys? Hey Ben?
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: How long have you been in Maryland? Yeah? We'll really
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: miss that. Yeah, I really enjoyed your article today about
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: the stadium. Oh great, we're all going to miss you.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: So thank you. Um. I have two quick questions then
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I'll take it off the air. If Nick Harry Um
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: went to the Packers, maybe in another team like that,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: do you think he would be I legitimate? Why receive
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: with SUI? Was it like a Patriots only thing? And
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: my second one is kind of hypothetical. Um, if Bill
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: was to leave with Patriots right now, who would you
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: trust the most to take over his head coach? Um?
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Someone already in the organizations? All right, thanks man. So
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: the first one, I do think that if Nikkila Harry
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: went to another team, he'd have a little bit more production,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: but he still wouldn't be that good. I do think
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: so because because of the you know, I would agree
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, maybe, But I think I see the
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: same player I saw in college, and I don't think
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to separate. I don't think he
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: plays to his size. I think contesta catches are a problem.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I just I haven't seen, right. I like the way
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Fred porton. I don't think he'd be any better, but
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: he'd probably have more catches, and maybe they wouldn't be
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: asking him to do all. His head wouldn't be swimming
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: in it, and he could maybe play. But I agree
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: with Fred, I don't think he'd be any better. Now.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: If I had to pick one person who's existing on
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: the team, um, probably Mayo comes to mind. Yeah, but
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: it's between probably Mayo and Patricia, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: did you take anything? I think a couple of weeks ago,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: there was like it looked like Mayo might have been
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: sitting with Robert Krafted at the Celtics game. I plugged
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: out a little bit. There were a lot of Patriots
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: at the Celtics game. I love that basketball Bruins too.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Bruins too. They like free tickets. I think that's that's
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: the word. I just one more thing on Harry. Though
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: we've watched him for three training camps, I've never seen
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: anything out of him that makes me seek can we
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: just get that onto the game field? Like everything is
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: looked the same as it does on the practice field.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: It's not like there's this secret skill set that he
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: has that just doesn't come out like it's. It is
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: what it is at this point, so I'd be skeptical
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: that he would be that much better anywhere else. All Right,
• 44:53
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  Speaker 1: didn't want Miami and then in the first week, but
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  Speaker 1: like last year. It's tough early, it's tough late. There's
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  Speaker 1: a little softer spot in the middle. Yeah. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: It's rated. Oh, I mean they probably called the Ocean
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: State after under rated. They do have they do have
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: some nice beep And then you know in Newport it's
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: probably the best. Yeah, and then Providence most urbane. It's
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: a good little city. You know, um it is city, right,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: so it's one of the twenty seven places you've lived,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: that's right. So I was born there. I think it's
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: a great city because it's got good food. You've got
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: some sports teams there. I mean, not the pass socks anymore,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: but yeah, you can't. You could get big city living
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: without having the big city. We definitely dropped the ball
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: with the pass socks thing. They should have been able
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: to keep the pass socks in Rhode Island. There's no
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: reason that. Don't you think of the New England Revolution
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: moving to Providence. I think that'd be that'd be a great,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: uh consolation prize to losing the pass socks. They are
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: that Pawtucket wants to build. You know when when we
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: take the ninety five and we go through the s curve,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: yes curves, and there's that old Apex building. Ye there.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: They have plans to redevelop that area and they are
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: build building a soccer stadium, a soccer only stadium there, um,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: and they're trying to lure a team, probably like one
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: of those NASL, those secondary American soccer leagues. But if
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: the Revs wanted to move there, come on down. Yeah,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: they were talking about put McCoy there, if they if
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: they exactly they originally wanted to put the pass Sox
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: downtown where the old ninety nine five was, and the
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: governor at the time and the uh the Speaker of
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: the House where at odds and that plan fell through
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: and then the guy who was actually in charge of
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: the pass Sox suddenly died, so that kind of put
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: that plan to the so they would have been downtown.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: They would have been called the pro Socks. And then
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: when that fell through, the Patucket came back in and
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: was like, Hey, we're gonna make a big push for
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: the Apex area and build the stadium there. That's not open,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: is no, that's been vacant for yeah, but you always
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: see cars there. Yeah, I know, that's weird. It's been
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: a local barbecues in the parking lot. Yeah, some locals
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: use it for like yeah this things probably, but yeah,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: but that could use a little revitalize. You want to
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: consider it? Consider it all right, Let's get to some
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: emails web radio at Patriots dot com, Suliman in the
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Bay Area. Uh. Some quick thoughts on the schedule. First,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: he uh, he likes the placement of the buy being
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: in week ten. I agree. Uh. Second, Bill always says
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: you need to be playing the best ball after Thanksgiving. Well,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: looking at the games after Thanksgiving out, that's a rough
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: slate of games with the Bills twice, the reigning AFC champ, Bengals,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Dolphins in back to back out West games. We know
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: what type of team we have before or we'll know
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: what type of team will have before the end of December,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: and games I'm looking forward to the most in no
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: water in non division games Bears due to the fields
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: versus Matt Jones talk the Patriots had post twenty twenty
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: one draft raiders for obvious reasons. In Bengals as a
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: measuring stick, Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. I
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: would say the last couple of years it hasn't been
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: like that, and if it's again not like that this year,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. The Cardinals by that point.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray probably dinged up. They're probably like, something's probably
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: wrong by the end of the playing the Patriots. You know,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: that's one, but you know, and who knows what the
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Raiders are going to be with Josh. But but I
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: think the Bengals obviously went to the Super Bowl last year.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: The Dolphins have beaten you four out of the last
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: five times, and the Bills have you know, done what
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: the Bills have done? Booked this lead pipe lock Jarrett
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: stood him versus Mac Jones December in Vegas. Okay, yeah,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: I've always worked out for the Patriots. I think the
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Green Bay game is you know, a good, good measuring stick.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: I assume, I mean, maybe like some people don't think
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: that they're going to be any good the Packers, but
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: I always assume that they'll figure it out if they
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: if they have one of those years where they don't
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: and they can't figure it out, then okay, then I'll
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: have been wrong. But I'm not going to assume you
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: won't know going in the week four. You might they
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: might have lost a game or two, but even last year,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: remember that first time. But I think that they'll still
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: be formidable as long as he's playing. I mean, even
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady's worst years here, Patriots were tough out you
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: know they sure? Yeah, And the only way to like
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: the Packers, I would say they. I mean they don't
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: have Belichick, so like I think Belichick was able to
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: get by with less. I don't know if the Packers
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: will have that ability to do it, but I think
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: they will, and I think they'll win, you know, eleven
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: twelve games like they always do, you know somehow. Yeah, Um,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Mike and Maryland. Congratulations to Eric. He'll be missed, but
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: he knows a year too early is better than a
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: year too late. Amen, we need a cut of the
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: all time Eric drops. Please effort that marine corps. I'm
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: sure he's already on it corporate speed. I hope this
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: departure the free agency sends a clear message to football
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: operations and ownership uh lock in the young core of
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: PU signing bonuses their own trainer on the team, diet
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Coakes Millers on the sideline. Is there anyone else we
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: want to be leading uh PU than the King of content?
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Fred kursh No need to pause in this one, Paul,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: and like Belichick, adamant no what nobody reads an email?
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: Whatever it takes, mister Kraft, Patriots and Filter the longest
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: reigning active Patriots dynasty. That's true, started before the dynasty started,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: started before podcasts. Yeah, the first one, I know, what
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: did you call it on? Just radio patternet IP radio?
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: We called it Patriots dot com Radio right from the
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: start and it was IP radio. Well, what a conversation
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: that must have been those I imagine Paul No Offense
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: being like, what, we're on the we're radio show, We're
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: on the internet. How does that work? Now? I mean,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have known. I was in I didn't know
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: exactly what at all. I still don't know exactly. But
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: when we started doing it, it was it was like
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: the greatest thing that we did. We had so much fun.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: That was when Brian and I usedould just go at
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: it every day. It was great and there's just now
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: go back then, right, kind of model it after radio,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't. No FCC did right, so you could
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: say whatever, and we had much like we do now.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: We had a former EI producer who kind of started
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: us and got us going. Yeah, what was the Patriots
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Cyber Sideline show? Well, that was a video video show
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: that was a nightly that was the that was the
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: first made for the Internet nightly video show. Yeah, basically
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: Fred used to anything. Fred used to describe that as
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: like a nightly newscast on just the Patriots. So if
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: someone wanted to see what happened that day to the Patriots,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: they'd be able to click on this watch what a
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: five minute yeah show maybe, and you'd be up to
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: up to speed on everything that was the Patriots. And
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: at the time, Brian and I used to have to
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: be like reporters on that show, so we would have
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: to put together like our own package. I had no
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: idea what I was doing. I was like, Frien, I
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: don't know, I'm Carolyn Jones. That's okay, cyber Sideline. I
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: mean I came to it. I was into it, man,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: like oh six Brian Lowe, I mean the training camp ones.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Those would always be I mean reading block servations and
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: you know everybody else wrote, but you know the Brian
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: low I remember waiting for it to like be released,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: you know, and being on California time and what happened.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: I want to see some shots of the guys and
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: I Brian, we would do the little deep brief sun
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: those Andy and I would alternate, and you know, and
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: that wasn't even before we started doing the training camp podcasts, Yeah,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: which became part of So we also had a show
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: that emanated from the old club at the old Fox
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: World Stadium, and it was called I think it was
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: called uh Patriots Cyber Cafe or something like that, or
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: was it Patriots Cafe Patriots Cafe, and we would we
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: would record it or do it live during the team's
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: lunch and they would eat up there, and so we
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: would just pull players over from the Don Lowry who
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: was the PR guy ran the show, and he would
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: pull guys over and and it was just like live
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: conversations with guys during their lunch. It was great. That
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: would never happen today, but that would be so fun
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: to just get a random pop in by like Kendrick Bourne, like,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: you know what, we're doing the show, Like here, all
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: of a sudden he comes walking in. You know, it's funny, dude.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: When we were in Indie for the Super Bowl, the
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: way we had it set up for our radio show,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: we were in this tiny little hallway in between where
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: we were our offices were and where Football Ops offices were.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: And remember we were doing that show and Paul and
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: I were starting in on some argument about some particular player,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden that player's position group came
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: out of their meeting and they walked through right past
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: our thing, and they're watching us arguing about this particular guy,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: and we're like yeah, and then they walked by, they left,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: and were just continued on. But it was and then
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: they moved us the next day they moved us. Oh
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: really yeah. Facts. The closest thing was, was it Dorset
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: that was on the bike when we were when we
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: were in Tennessee. That was another one. We started talking
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: and I was like yeah, but Deuce was there for
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: like two days and these Douce was not a big
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: fan of It's true. Philip Dors said, you never say
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: anything to him then, did you? No? No, no, I was.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: I was still thinking about Derek Henry. Oh that's true.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Chutters in Manchester. My personal favorite Eric moments were the
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: discussions about his watermark photos and extracts from his book
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: available to buy it. Yes it is, Oh no, no
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: it's not. You should self publish it. Just get it
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: out there. I'm not going to pay a publisher to
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: publish mine. Don't have to just put it up on Amazon.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think you have to pay anything. There's a way.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: My sister is now on telling you what is right.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: It's like horror stuff. So how does Joe? Can you
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: monetize it in any way? Yeah? Yeah, how does that work?
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: People download it and they pay and you get a cut. Yeah,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: but it's only a digital, it's not a hard copy.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: It's a digital. There's a way to do hard copy too,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: I would yeah, yeah, there's a way. You could definitely
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: do it. So how do you get people to want
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: to download it? Well, you start with your circle of
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: friends and then they download it and you encourage them
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: to do give us reviews. Yeah, and then you know yeah.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: So doesn't sound like my fallback plan for all the
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: jokes and jobs over the years. I do wish Eric
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: well and hope he has a lot of fun on
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: his new adventures, whatever they may lead. He's done some
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: fantastic deep interviews and pieces with Patriots players. I look
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: forward to the launch of his new podcast with Andy.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: But that would be good that the odd people wouldn't
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: listen to that. Think. Yeah, back to football, and I'm
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: still very much intrigued to know what RKK and Jonathan's
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes thoughts are in the draft. After all,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: they said about the failures of the past five years,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: to then drop down and draft a widely graded Day
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: two guard, it almost feels like that was a direct
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: reply from the head of the table to them. Well,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get why everyone's upset, but I think
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: you can't if you're a manager. I don't think you
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: can make decisions based on they didn't pick the guys
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: you liked, Like, you have to kind of see these
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: guys play and see what they are. I mean, if
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: they all flame out, then you know, sure, But I
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: don't get the theory on that. Admittedly, a lot of
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: these um lost, A lot of these get lost on me,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: But like, how exactly is it a shot from Belichick
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: to the Crafts to take someone who's right rated different
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna sabotage my own team. Yeah,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: so he wants to criticize my draft tot Like, how
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: does that work? Cut off your exactly? That's what that is.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: He took the guy he thought was the best option, right,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, can we I mean, can we assume that, Yeah,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: you can. You can argue it could have been a
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: different guy and that they took him too soon. But
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: I mean they needed him. But I'm not even arguing that.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: Let's just say, for whatever reason they took this guy, Like,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: what's in it for Bill to say, Oh, you want
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: to criticize my drafts, I'll show you. I'll just I'll
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: take that. I'll take this guy that I don't even
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: do that. I'll take this guy I don't even want.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: I'll have a bad draft. So now next year he
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: can say three years in a row, like why, I
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: don't know what's in it for him? Right? What's in
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: it for Bill? That was really funny. Um Anthony says Eric,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: mister Corksniffer, you will be missed and I wish you
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: all the best in your Somalian career. That's not not
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: the word. I don't think. It's not what I thought
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: it was the Africa book in Africa. Yeah, that's what
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: he wrote. In viewing the schedule, this year could be
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: a rough year. I could legitimately see the team starting
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: owen four. The team will need to be at their
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: best right out of the gate, and it doesn't get
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: much respite in the middle with the Colson Bill um
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: R T E. Sandwiching, resting, um sandwiching some potentially easier matchups.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: Here's hoping we get some classic always works out for
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: the Patriots breaks. I think you'll get a few of those.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: But I don't see anything you can pencil in right now.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: I really don't. I think you have the Jets twice
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: and who else in Detroit Browns maybe without Detroit the Bears.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: That's as close as you can get at the Jets.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: Uh at home. I won't even pencil win the one
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: at new Yeah, because I do think they'll be a
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: little better. They should be UM three first round picks
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: then they I think that. I think one Jets game
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: in the Detroit game, they played Detroit at home? Right Uh? Yes, yeah,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: I can't see them losing Detroit at home. Um Jack says,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: for crying out loud, how can Detroit be ranked below Buffalo?
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: Detroit has great ethnic food, is the home of Motown,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: and by its connection to Windsor, Ontario, hosts the busiest
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: open border in the world. Who would not want to
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: visit Windsor Well. I again, I took a lot of
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: things into consideration on my list, and one of the
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: things for Buffalo was I do have a soft spot
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: for Buffalo, having been there more than a dozen times
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: throughout the years. UM, but I would if I were
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: going on that trip as a fan, I wouldn't necessarily
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: stay in Buffalo. I would go maybe either to Toronto
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: or the Finger Lakes region of New York, which both
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: of which I mentioned in my little blurb about Buffalo.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: So you just go to Buffalo for the game, and
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: you're not even in Buffalo. You're an Orchard Park, which
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: is a suburb, So you stay in the surrounding area,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: which there's a lot of like beautiful countryside up in
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: that area, and you could go north of the border,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: and then you drive in for the game, You go
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: to the game, and then you continue on on your way.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: So it's similar to Detroit. Ironic that Eric's getting more
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: attention for his writing as his leaving and that was
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: a big piece. Though you put all it was, I
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: put a lot of I worked on it all offseason.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Well the other part, I don't know how you guys
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: feel about this. I mean, Eric obviously has a lot
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: of different factors that he weighed in. But I'm looking
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: at like the city where you know what I'm going
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: to do in the city and then the stadium in
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: the game itself, it's pretty much pretty much no no.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: But like for Detroit, like the fact that it's close
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: to Windsor, like, I don't know, like that, I don't
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: know if all those things back, what can I do
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: when I'm there? Right? And I suppose you could do
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: all of those things, but I'm not necessarily I don't know.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Maybe other people look like to me, Nashville, right, I can,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: but Buffalo, like that's traveling too far all those things
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: you mentioned. That's kind of like I'm gonna go. You know,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go to Indianapolis and you know, the day
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: before we're gonna take a helicopter to Michigan. You know,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: like that doesn't count, right, Well, that's kind of what
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: I was getting at with. And you can get to
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: Toronto easily from Buffalo. You can get to Windsor easily
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: from Detroit. I'm not suggesting that these are like deal breakers.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: It's not that hard. But for me, it's more like
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: I can be in my hotel and walk to you know,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: twenty seven incredibly fun looking bars in Nashville that Mike
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: and I I think sample twenty four of them, and
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: you know, Matt and I, you know, we're out ripping
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: it up. It was great. We had a great time
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: in Nashville and Buffalo. To me, it would be more
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: like that's kind of like like bar food, Like that's
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: what I want to eat, Like I don't need like
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: a fancy, you know, five star meal. Like give me
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: some Buffalo wings, give me some beers, and I'm good. Well,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: and Buffalo there's like eighteen places for that. I'm glad
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: that's a good trip. I'm glad you brought that up
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: whole because I also in my lead and I explained
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: too that not every football fan is the same. You know,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: there are rich football fans. There are you know, more
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: frugal football fans poor football fans. So I try to
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: include a lot of different suggestions for people of different
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: budgets and different tastes. So, you know, I included things
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: like the Fingerlakes region for people who want to do
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: that kind of thing, like people who have kids, Like
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: people who have kids aren't going to go to Vegas
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: for a week and be you know, lightening it up
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: till three in the morning, you know. So I mean
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: there are certain trips where if you're taking a fan
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: judge my parental skills. No, but like seriously, like duce,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: if you and Lane and kids wanted to go on
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: a right trip and it's so specific, you're not going
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: to be doing the things you would do if it
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: was just you in Lane right and and but I mean,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I come from a place, so
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: how many people take like full family trips. It's more
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: for a football game. It's more about like your buddies,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: you want to have you go to Miami and stay,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: you know, go to the beach. Sure, but I'm just
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: saying I'm just trying to put it out there for like,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: let's say you have a school vacation weekend. You're like, well,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: we don't really we can't really fly anywhere, but we
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: we live driving distance to like Upstate New York. Let's
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: spend a week in Upstate New York. Oh, there happens
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: to be a Bills game going on. Let's sidetrack to that.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: You know. It's just, yeah, that's all everybody's perspective. I
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: mean for me, I just I want to be able
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: to get into a city. I don't want to have
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: to run a car or drive very far. I want
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: to be close to good restaurants, and I want to
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: be close to the stadium. And if I can do
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: all those things and get a little bit of a
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: sampling of the area, the culture that that's there, that's great.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: But um, I get in, I get out, you know,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: And that's why I'm with Scattle perfect. Mike is right.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: Mike Gerkin writes in the ground, A lot of these
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: people coming out the woodwork Eric, they're all here to yeah,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: coming out. I figured, with Eric moving on, I should
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: share the story that I have been holding onto for
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: a while. I'm a long time listener, but rarely get
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: a chance to write or listen live. But my first
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: day email to you guys was way back in two
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: thousand and one. Yeah, the opening the opening song for
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: the podcast was a little less Conversation by Elvis. IM
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: not sure why I still remember that. Anyway, My story
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: is an Eric's story. I want Eric to know I'm
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: a fan of his, especially these past few seasons. I
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: know he got off to a rough start on the
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: pod with his punt stats, but his pomposity has always
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: been a good part of the show. At points throughout
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: his time on the show, you have referenced him as
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: est Gal. Now what I heard was East Gal, and
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: I was impressed that he was so comfortable with what
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: I perceived was his sexuality, and that his issues with
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: Andy's stemmed from his joking about it. It was not
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: until after this Christmas this year, when I got a
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: nice set of headphones, that I realized it was indeed
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Escal and not east Gal, and it cleared up all
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: those confusing conversations you have had about Eric's love life
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: over the years. North Gale, it was any scale, Fred,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: can you think off the top of your head, out
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: of all the trips that we've taken, which one you
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: had the most fun at? Non super Bowl? Who most fun?
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: That Indie one? That night we all with the we
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: were part of the marketing, uh, all the marketing reception.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: That was the one where you and Brian were afraid
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: to show up the next day and he came in
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: and said, all hung over. Me and Brian had our
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: heads on the desk and then we were like we
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: got to avoid Fred. And Fred came over and told
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: us how drunk he was. And it's like the greatest thing.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, when it was opened, Billy Ognens and Buffaloes
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: were some of the best meals I've ever had, and
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: those were good. That made the trip. There was a
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: year and I forget which one it was that we
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: went down to Miami and on a Friday, I remember, Yeah,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: we went early, and I remember m Brian and I
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: went out. We were at the hotel. We went out
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: by the pool and we're just kind of hanging out
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: and William McGinnis came over and just ripped us a
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: new one, Like, you two are going to sit here
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: by the pool when Fort lar you got the whole
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: You could go anyway you want. You're like ten minutes away.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: What is wrong with you? And like we went back
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: up to our rooms and we were sam and we
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: were we were out for the day. Completely ripped it
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: up that night in Fort Lauderdale. That was far and
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: away the most fun I've had on that day on
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: the beach that we had. That was a fun day too. Yeah,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: that was great. That's the one I was just thinking
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: of because that was actually twenty fourteen. Week one at Miami.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: We went down on a Friday for a one o'clock
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: Sunday game to get used to the heat. Yeah, and
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: we had an all day Saturday and we just that
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: was on the beach. That was a different one because
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: I wasn't at the No, you weren't in that one,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: but we did that similar kind of We were right
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: across from the beach. We just walked across from that.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: It was Yeah, that was a good day. Yeah. And
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: the Arizona trip that yeah, we went on the Thursday
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: was pretty It wasn't on that. That was the Lonnie
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Paxton game. Yeah, oh right, can't talk. I'll talk about
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: that one on the air. I remember, I remember bit
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: off color. Yeah, Barton Poland just wanted to say that
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: the fact that other teams got creative, this is about
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: the schedule releasally, other teams got creative and spent a
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: lot of time and money for their schedule release videos,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: and we got Ernie in a whiteboard was epic. Doesn't
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: get better than Ernie. Also, good luck to Eric in
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: his future endeavors. He was a great part of the show.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: And we'll be missed. Who will make football? Yes, football
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: as in kicking the ball into the net references? Now,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: can I just say to bart right there was bart
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: thank you for like getting it for lack of a
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: better way, like we have done that in the past,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: We've put a lot of production value, in a lot
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: of thought and effort, and we went intentionally ironic. Yea.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: We went in a different direction this year and had
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to do something with Ernie and Bart like
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: I think just summarized it perfectly. Yeah. The original concept,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a little scene was it was gonna be
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: either Ernie, Ivan and Dante or a combination of that
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: three sitting in rocking chairs and retirement, you know, just
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: announcing the Green Square. But um uh, Dante was out
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: of town. I didn't he didn't want to do it,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: and so but you know, of the three, you would
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: think Ernie would be the least likely he would like
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: love to participate, you know, he was great. I just
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: loved the little bits and they're very subtle, but just
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a nod of how they look
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: at the schedule when it comes out, you know, mentioning
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: the toughness of the ravens uh you know, Miami having
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: a player nicle. Just the little things that you know,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: I know, as reporters and people who watch it, you
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: asked them about and they always kind of downplay it.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: But I thought it gave a little bit of just
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: a little bit of insight, even as something as as
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: obvious as the week ten by Yeah, right right where
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: you want it, you know. Like my favorite part was
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: where he gets the first Buffalo games. You're wondering where
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: Buffalo is, Well, here they are. I love Yeah, pink stripes,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: Easter eggs in there. Oh yeah, we put it right
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: on the board. Okay, Annie wore pink stripe, sir. Yeah,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: he's good. I mean a lot of a lot of
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: other team was put in a ton of effort and yeah,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: you know, and the Chargers. I'm not saying that that's wrong.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: What do you really get it had an anime uh, cartoonists,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: artists and on staff like they do. I think we
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: would have done that too. Doing nothing that was just
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: give me a little time next year. I think they've
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: had like five cartoons only sexy. Where have I heard
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: that before? You know? Um yeah, So no disrespect of
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: the teams that went all out. I think it's great.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah to TJ, who does like anime, was like your son, Yeah,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: my son was going to pointing out all the different
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: anime stuff. Yeah, you know, it's I mean, that's it was.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: There were a lot there were a lot of I mean,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: I think we appreciated the little easter eggs that they
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: put in making fun of all the teams. Oh yeah,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: they're they're not to the Jaguars. Was hilarious. You saw that.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: I heard about it. Yeah, that was very I couldn't
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: bring himself to watch. No, I have to watch it
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: again because now that people mentioned it. I didn't notice
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: it the first time because it was happening. It was.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: It was sneak hilarious. The approval process, like for the Chargers,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: who has to go through the use to make sure
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: everything's okay the Cleveland. Yeah, but I think that in
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: that case, the Jaguars are probably like good right, you
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: know that's what we think too. Yeah, yeah, um Joe
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: and Orlando. Eric just pulled a gronk on us. Where
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: is the team going to find a suitable replacement in
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: May and June? In all seriousness, best wishes to Eric.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: The show has been lucky to have you all these years.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: I hope whatever comes next is great. Ah, thank you.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: I hope so too. Yep, A lot of well wishers. Yeah, yeah, surprisingly,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna get ripped a lot more,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: but maybe that's theirs. You would have gotten a lot
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: already except for you blocked everybody. Yeah, it's a good point.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: They're not in my life. Thanks. I don't need that.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: I don't need that in my life, uh Neil writes
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: in Schedule Release Day. You can have Ernie Adams read
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: the games off a whiteboard while providing obvious weather predictions.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: Or you can have the work of art that was
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: the La Charges video talk about taking smack? Are talking
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: smack in Japanese. I'm kind of disappointed we weren't playing them, because,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: let's be honest, there's a lot of low hanging fruit
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: to poke fun of. When it comes to the Patriots,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: we were also crushed by the Giants and many other teams.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: We need to draft better media content personnel. I for one,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: blame Bill GM Bill. It's not coach's Bill's fault. Okay, no,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: blame me, absolutely no. But are we are we ever
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: gonna be? If you don't like it, blame me right. Well,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: if we're gonna be, are we gonna be ones to
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: go around and rakle everybody's feathers and have little trolls
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: of everybody else? I don't know, but you didn't have
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: to do that like we've done, like We've done things
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: with that kind of production value without oh yeah, without
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: like ruffling feathers and making fun of it. I think
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: that's what he was complaining about, that we didn't. We didn't.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: We're not like rattle cages. We're not going to do that.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys are bumped about Thanksgiving here Canada,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: we call it extra Football Day plus four consecutive primetime
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: games to Paul give his resignation. Yet I had anywhere
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: to go. I don't have the guts that Eric has
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: to just up and leave. Also for this month, Miami
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: in Week one, but ninety minute postgame shows that month.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: I'm sick of Miami in Week one. But Mike can't complain,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: as it has been his anthem. How do we stack
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: up against the Dolphins? What do you think are the
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: toughest three games stretch we have the in the season.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: To me, it's games fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: that's no idea. I mean, Buffalo at Arizona at Vegas,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: that's a tough stretch. I mean, just give me the
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: last three. I mean, if because if you're if you're
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: on the edge, if you're on the bubble, for the playoffs,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: and then you gotta be you know, you're you're you're
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: traveling games and then and then you got three really
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: good teams. I mean, I think it's a The Dolphins
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: is a really interesting test ride out of the gate
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: of I mean, they do have a new coach, so
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: I think there's something to be said for the beeflow
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: factor with them in the last few years and how
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: they got up and how they prepared and you know,
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: no disrespect to Mike McDaniel, why, you know, I think
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: as a breath of fresh air. Um, I'm very curious
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: to see how he does. And I wish they weren't
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: in our division because I want him to do well. Yeah,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: I want somebody different to do well. Yeah. They just
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: signed Melvin Ingram too, right, Oh did they? I didn't
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: see that really, So I we'll see. I mean, you're
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: gonna get a great barometer right out of the gate.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: You got a team that's in your division that's really
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: kind of handled you of the last couple of years.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know, the opener last year was was close,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: and the Patriots you know, had it in their grasp,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: but a fumble unfortunately kind of probably cost him the game.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: So I mean, it's it's a good opportunity to get
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: right on track at a division road win. Arguably the
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: second hardest game that you're gonna have to play in
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: the division. But you know you're gonna have to be
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: on and ready to go right out of the gate
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: with that schedule. I mean, and you know, even the
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: Steelers and the Ravens. I mean, I said to Paul,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: sometimes I look at these through the lens of like
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: this was the old Brady Patriots. And even in that regard,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: you know, if they were the old those those were
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: still just tough general teams that have always kind of
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: been playing and it's tough to play down there in September.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: I think that's a big you know, playing them really
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: early and really late in Miami, I think is is different.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: And I think if you look at the I don't
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: have the numbers in front of me, but I think
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: this September record, I think they're like two and two
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: and two or or two and four in September or
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: something like that. And the two wins were both Monday
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: night games, oh in Miami, which which is mitigated a
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: little bit. It's still hot and human, but it doesn't
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: like the sun beaten down on. I'd like to know
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: overall what Miami's record is their first home game, like, oh,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: you know anybody time? Yeah, you know, I bet you
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: it's pretty good. Yeah, um, Bill and Bowsman's last year.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: I assume this will come up pretty quick. Today. I'm
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: gonna miss Eric. I hope he's gonna be okay and
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: enjoy his new adventure. Also, I hope Fred replaces him
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: with another intellectually minded individual. Good luck, Escal, Thank you.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think they meet make them like Scale anymore. No,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: went away with a Scots. Speaking of acts, I had
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: last week, it's your ascot, that's all right. Yeah, and uh,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: it wasn't so bad. Yeah, it wasn't so bad. It
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: was to feel refreshed when you woke up. I actually
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: felt refreshed after the treatment that you have to do beforehand,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: because you get you get completely, like drained out of everything.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: That was the first time in my life I've ever
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: done that. Yeah, but I I had like a short
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: term amnesia when I woke up from the procedure, and
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: by the time I got home, I remember very little
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: about that time period. Yeah, right, I remember almost nothing
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: about what happened when you're not supposed to remember the procedure.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: I don't remember the procedure at all. And then I
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: remember being awake afterwards, being given like apple juice and
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: some crackers or something, and then I remember walking out
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: the door to my mother's car. She came to pick
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: me up. I don't remember the drive home. I remember
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: unlocking the door to my house, having a little bit
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: of breakfast, and then I sat down in my chair
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: in my living room, and three hours later I woke
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: up and that's when everything had worn off. But they
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: I'm glad I did the test because they did find
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: a little something there. So but they said not to worry.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: It's not but it's just a little polyp. Yeah, so
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: something that's something to consider for either down the road.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: And they always find something like that, like I have
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: a little diverticulitis. But it's like it's okay, it's the
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: only one here who hasn't met doctor jelly fingers. What
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: position do they get you him? When they're getting you ready,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: when they're getting your your side, you're on your side.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, just trying to get getting them
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: right place for it. I know my time is coming. Yeah,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: you should you should do it. I mean you're you're
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: over forty five now, right, Yeah, that's when they tell
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: you now you should, especially within the recent years with
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: U Chad Chadwick Boseman, the actor who died of it,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: because it's so preventable that they want you to get
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: it early, as early as possible with so they can
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: detect it, get it. I'm really surprised with my diet
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: over my life. It's not ridiculous in there, just you know,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: like stalactites, you know, bats, you know, those are the
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: ones on the top of the bottom, you know, Yeah,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: like it. I just figured it should be a mess
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: with all the red meat, I mean cheese, you know. Yeah,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Surprise it's not a messing there. Well,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: you know, like you wake up and you're like, give
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: me the news, doc, and I know it's bad. Just
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: give it to me straight. Like you eat all these
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: you know, like me, all the red, heavy, heavy, oily, greasy,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: you name it fried me too, you know. Yeah, but
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: you were okay, right, you guys both had them recently. Yeah,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: so you're both okay. I've had I've always had I've
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: always had the um belief, and I know It's not
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: true that if you start something early in life, like
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: eating bad, your body gets used to it and you
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: can handle it. Is when you start later, then your
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: body freaks out and you get sick. You know, So
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: start smoking and drinking when you're think there's a lot
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: of alcoholics that would disagree with that. Smoke when you're ten,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: and then you know, develop a resistance to Oh yeah,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: I know I'm not being true. But you do hear
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: about people who are like ninety, they smoked all their lives? True,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: what's your secret? And cigarettes everything? You don't know of
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of those people. That's true. It's very rare.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: You hear about the one right, Yeah, you've now you've
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: got those commercials with those people who are all difficulties,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: and you don't see a lot of grossly overweight ninety
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: year olds and you don't see a lot of change.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: That's true. You go to those nursing homes, they're not fat, yeah,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: which means not long for this world. You don't smoke,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah, you've never smoked, have you? No? Not
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: not cigarettes? No, I don't even really smoke cigars a
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: lot anymore, like I might have one a year. You
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: know that's it. Yesterday was another one of those days
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: where I wish I smoke cigars. Yeah, like everybody around,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: that would be enough for me, just the other people's.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: I just like the I like the external. Once you
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: smoke them, they taste and it wasn't close enough that
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: it was like the spink was getting on me, but
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: I could just smell the aroma. It's a football cent
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: for me, right, Mark, Matt, you like scars. It's aigar
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: guy me and g Or the way used to smoke them.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: Oh sorry postgame shows, Humble Bragg smoking if you know
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: them right, you just kind of you let it wallow
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: and try to put in your mouth, goes in through
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: the put it in your mouth and blow. Is that
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: what you? You just put it in your mouth and
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: spit it out, And you just said, I hope you
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: got that one captured. H Claire writes in Hello everyone,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: Hello ma readcast. I know there may be a slew
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: of goodbye emails to Eric Thursday, so I wanted to
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: get mine in today. You will be genuinely missed, Eric.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: Thank you for everything you help make you great, which
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: made me a better Patriots fan. So thank you. Wishing
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: you all the best. Okay, Fred, is there a job opening.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: Let's get to it. We redo the show when whoever
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: replaces Eric, you know, make pe you great again. We
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: should do that. Pooh, hugga huga. Let's get back to
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: the phones. A sticket hutline. We get him stacked up here.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: We'll start with Todd North Carolina, Todd, Todd, Todd hang out. Uh,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: Josh is in California. Hey, Josh, Hey guys. Not necessarily
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: a long time listener, but I am the first time caller.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: I discovered your guys this show like a month ago
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: and been watched basically all of it. Welcome, so I
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: am a big fan. Uh. First, a couple of things
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: to defend Bill Belichick, and then a couple of questions. Um,
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: obviously everyone in the AfD has kind of been going
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: all in this. Yeah, So do you think builds approaching
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: the season as realistically we're not able to compete, so
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: he may as well just go for a better draft pick,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: maybe do a little better the next few years. I
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: don't think that's yeah, I don't. Yeah. I just think
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: they're being doing what they do, being methodical. But I mean,
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: you're right, they gotta they gotta hit on the draft.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: I just did. The lack of young players, that's I
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: think that's what's glaring about this team is is you
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: need that next generation of guys to emerge, and some
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: guys are going to get a chance this year. I
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: think it looks like that. Do you think that? And
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: I'll ask you this to Josh, do you think that
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: the type of players that build drafted this year indicates
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: he's going to be here longer than people think? Ah?
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: I don't really read that much into it. No, okay,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not here to tell you that's not true. But
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: I haven't really read into it. Okay, Now, I just
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: thought it was an acknowledgment that they needed to be
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: they needed to improve, especially different But I mean, you
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: know guys that you know, smaller schools, maybe more a
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: little bit more developmental type guys. Know. No, I can't
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: justify the cold, strange pick no matter what. Okay, all right,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: but my criticism of Bill more recently is kind of specific.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: Do you guys think Jack Mason was passed his prime
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: or gonna ask for a new contract or something. Why
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: don't we send him away for a fifth and then
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: spend a first on the guard. It's just money. I
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: don't think he's passed his prime. I don't think he
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: was going to ask for more money. But he was
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: making a lot from the but he was making a
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: contract that he signed. Thanks Josh Bill and Vista, California.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Eric's operation, I couldn't help but think of
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: the scene from the office where Michael asked Oscar if
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: there's anything he should do to prepare for to make
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: his appointment more pleasurable for him and his doctor. Anyway,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: enjoy the good luck on your next African adventure. You'll
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: be missed. Thank you. That's nice, That's very sweet. Back
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: to the phone, Eldred's in North Carolina. Eldred, Hey, fellas,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: how y'all doing good? Ea? Scout from miss old Buddy.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: Like I said on Facebook, go ahead talking to you
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: for these years, I'm gonna try that at least five
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: more years than I quit. At least five more. I'm
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: gonna retire five more than I'm gonna retire from them, right, Fred, Yes,
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: and Paul, I got a question play. I heard you earlier.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: You're very optimistic. I'm an optimistic thought this come found schedule,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: so in all considerations, you don't know who the office
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: coordinating is. You don't know who's gonna be calling the
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: play that their first time or they did it on
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: Madden or whatever. Okay, how do you see the sco
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: how you see the record breaking out? And I know
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: if I keeps saying, where we got a shout at
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: the wild Card, but that's what I'm looking at. Yeah, No,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: it's fair. I mean, like if they if it's a
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: disaster on offense, obviously there, it's going to be a
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: disaster season. So, um, I just I just don't I
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: think Bill will figure it. Like, I think he knows
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: what he's gonna do. He's just he's not into telling
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: anybody yet because he just doesn't want to. That's it's
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: not time for that, you know, in his schedule, it's
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: not time to talk about who's doing what. We're just
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: putting the rookies on the field right now. Guys are
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: gonna be coming in. Well, we'll take things as they come,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: you know. I think in his mind he knows and
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: you know, I know it's cliche, but I trust them.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah see, And that's part of the reason why I
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: think they'll be in wildcard contention. Now, if you're asking
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: me how many games I think they'll win now. A
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff going to go on between now and
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: the start of the season, but I don't see them
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: making it right now. I think it's probably like seventy
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: eight wins. But I mean we had a call it earlier. Things.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: Nine wins will get you in, so if you win eight,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: you're in contention, right um. But I think right now
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: there are some teams that I like on paper better
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: than the Patriots. We'll see if PaperWorks, sometimes it doesn't,
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: and sometimes injuries happen, sometimes it doesn't. Mash you know,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: Son'll see yeah, but I see what everybody else sees.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: I see some holes on the roster, you know, not rough,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: but I'm still like everybody else. I mean, that strange
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: pick was a strange pick, especially he had two good
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: corners out there, you know, like Boofing, but Cleary and Gordon.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: You know, you didn't get there was a need. That's
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: what I'm still stretching my head about. I don't think
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: they're trying to get you know, a little faster free
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: agent wise, you know, and draft wise, and you got
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: anybody mashing up in the secondary. That's what I'm worried,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: yeah about Yeah, you got to stop him somehow. Yeah,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: all right, thanks? Thanks. See what do they need to
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: do on defense? What do they need to have to
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: stop him? What would necessity to stop Can we can
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: we force them to punt it? Can we get a punt?
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: Not again? God? What happened to Eric? I don't know?
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: Left early? You just get up and left? Oh? Is
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: this it was? Now? It was one forty five was
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: the time? And he was Uh, Matt, Indiana, Matt, I'm
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: bummed to hear that Eric is calling it quits on
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: the PU Crew. I've enjoyed listening to him on Patriots
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: Unfiltered and John Rookie Show. What's What's John rook Gonna do?
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: Um Artic will come back in to do twenty minutes
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: of rooke. He has a lot of the same negative
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: outlooks that I generally have, so I relate well to him.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: We are also close to the same age, so we
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: share the same formative Patriots years and experience. I two
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: once owned a Satin Patriots starter jacket in elementary squad. Yes,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: the Blue gotta have it. My guess is he's to
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: join Megan O'Brien to become the next wrestling tag team champions,
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: me and Megan. Yeah, good luck in the squared circle
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: or wherever your travels may take you. Yeah, who is that?
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry? I Matt in Indiana. Oh, thank you, Matt,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: appreciate that. Yeah. The starter, the blue starter jacket, the
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: satin one that uh um h Raymond Berry used to
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: wear on the sideline class I had. Yeah, I remember royal,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: blue royal, the shiny royal. I know it, satin is.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: Remember those starter That wasn't the part that I was
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: confused about. That was not the red jackets with the
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: block Patriots letters. Those were the with like the stars
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: on them. Yeah, you know those. That's what I was thinking.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: The long winter coat ones because they used to sell those.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: And they also had like a lot of sweaters. Remember
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: the sweaters and like that Raymond Barry Cliff engl sweater,
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: bad sweaters remembered on the sideline so ugly. The big
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: winter jacket that ugly. Yeah ugly. I had a pull over,
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: the blue Patriots pullover with a little zipper on the side.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: I wore that all the time the games. Yeah, I
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: liked that. It's weird. As I grew up, you know,
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: three towns away from the stadium and grew up saying
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: like time frame Eric did eighties nineties and they're pretty
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: bad mostly, but no, everybody seemed like everybody wore more
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: other team stuff. There wasn't like a but even like
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: other sports, Like I have like a picture like in
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: my junior year high school with like a Blackhawks hat on.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was just an old thing
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: where people were more like open to wearing other teams,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: but and I mean it certainly plays into it the
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: pictures where we're bad and nobody wanted to wear this stuff.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, but now everybody's like we gotta
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: get pat Patriot bag and like nobody want to wear it.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah right. I used to get made fun of my
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: adults for wearing that jacket. Everybody wants to bring it back. Kid,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: his name was Fred. What are you wearing that logo
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: for a professional usfluh, let's say. Amir writes in I
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: don't understand the overreaction regarding the coaching rules, where clearly
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: we have a bigger problem with the PUS staffing. Eric
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: is leaving and now we have no second host and
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: Fred is often hurt in m Ia Samara started the
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: season on pup. Paul is obviously over the hill. It's
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: Mike really ready to carry the show all relevant questions,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: each and every one of those relevant questions. I mean,
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: I know everybody's probably thrilled for the Deuce solo PU
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: show that the will single hand I'm gonna share with you,
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: So I'll share with you my biggest concern. It's gonna
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: shock you. His role as the number two host, Oh yeah, underrated.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: We have not filled that. I am really worried about it.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: What happens when Fred's not here? The show already falls
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: apart where Fred's not here, Let's face it, all right, Hi,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: I'm Mike. That's just me. Sorry, I'm sorry. I do.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: I worry about it the whole time. I know, worry.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: If it's Fred, Deuce and Paul, I think we will
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: be fine. Yeah, you'll be all right. You take one
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: of those three out of the equation. I think it's
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: a train wrecord. Well, it's a train wreck anyway. When
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: there's only two of us, no matter who the two are,
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: it's tough to do a two man show. Sometimes we've
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: had good shows. Yeah, yeah, it depends on if there's
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: news to talk about. If it's Fred and I or
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: Andy and I. It was great. I don't know if
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: you guys can stuck into Andy and I were the
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: A team. I mean that's opinion. I like there was
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: a good sign in Caroline. It was a good sign
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: in Carolina on the glass for the Bruins game. It's, uh,
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: the Patriots aren't good enough to be a holes there
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: be holes. Oh wow, that's a shot. I mean, not
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, the Bruins. I figured that's what did you get?
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: Did you have something of note there? Looked like you
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: were tweets. That's something you'll love hearing about after the show.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: Good luck one of those tweets, good luck trying to
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: stop you know whopping? Yeah, good luck. Trevor writes in
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: from North Carolina. A couple of questions about the way
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: the Patriots go about their coaching roles. One, are other
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: teams so secretive about their coaching roles or is this
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: just the Patriots thing? Just the Patriots thing? From for
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: all I know, Yeah, it just feels like a lot.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of effort to like for note, Yeah,
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: I mean for what Tom Current asked Gerard Mayo about
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: that today, you know, like, is it something that you
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: get an advantage out of something that you know, And
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: he said, quite frankly, I don't think other teams even
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: think about it. They don't have right they don't lose
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: any time thinking about any of this kind of stuff
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: right now. They just say, hey, you're coaching this, which
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: I thought was interesting for him to just admit, like, yeah, no,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: you guys think that there's nothing in it. I don't
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: think there's anything in it because the other teams aren't
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: worried about all of our roles individually. I mean, it
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: also helps that Gerard and Tom have had to just
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: you know, they Girard used to be on Tom's TV show,
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: so they have a little bit of a rapport there.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's a little bit easier talking to him, but yeah,
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: but it's Art's been pushing back a little bit. He
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: got into it with pell Greeno a little bit. Oh really,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't on that of no, no, no,
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: but just you know, firm like he can be. You know,
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: it was I mean, why Pella Greeno? Yeah, right, was Mayo? Right,
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: Pella Greeno. I figured he was talking to somebody as yesterday.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: But I mean I feel like he's I feel like
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: he's asking the hard questions that you talk you know,
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: every we talk about him, he goes on the air,
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: he talks about him, and I think he he's willing
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: to go in and and and press him a little bit.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: And you know, talking about the secondary things that we've
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: been talking about where you got a couple of rookies,
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: but it looks like you got a lot of turnover there.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: Do you think you got the pieces to match up?
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: And you know, Mike, I think Mike Paul Green, now,
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: I mean he's always a little prickly and not afraid
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: to kind of be like I think I think at
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: one point I heard him. I think I no, no,
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: in a good way. But I think I think he
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: threw with all due respect, Oh he's got it. Um
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean it's it's it's just I just
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: think if you get if you have questions about the defense,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: go to the top, either go to Bill or go
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: to Mayo and Steve Belichick. Like, all due respect to
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: Mike Paella Green, No, that's not really where I'm looking for,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: you know, going to for an answer, right, it's not
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: his fault. Uh. Trevor also wants to know is there
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: any actual advantage to being so quiet about this or
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: is it just Bill saying screw you to the media.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: But I don't know what. I don't think it's necessarily
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: screw you to the media, but I don't think there's
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: any advantage to it either. Also, I've really tased doing it.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: I've really taken a liking to Paul's diet miller phrase
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: so much, in fact that last weekend I was at
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: a bar in order to diet without even thinking about
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: exchanged confused looks with the bartender before realizing what I
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: said and having to clarify. I've never called it a
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: diet miller in a restaurant. I probably have, but yeah,
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: Fred and Matt were on that one early. I made
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: it up. Oh wow, protective and I remember saying it
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: and Matt said, I like that. Okay, I'll give you
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: full credit. Of course, he said, I liked it, diet miller.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: My two bosses colliding. I can I can't handle were
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: taking credit for the miller like jokes. Oh we didn't mention. Also,
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: um in passing Gino Cappellina, Oh yes, can I just
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: say sorry? Sorry about that? You know I wrote I
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: wrote a short little piece on Gino after the show
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: last week when we found out about it, and the
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: response has been overwhelming to so many people that have
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: reached out to me for writing it, including what I
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: believe one of Gino's sisters. Yes, um relative, at least
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: a relative. But I've had um countless too many to
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: even remember on Twitter, people reaching out, and we've even
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: had a handful of emails come in really nice of
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: people to like because I did, you know, sort of
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't know Geno well, I don't pretend to have
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: known him really well, but we did have the opportunity
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: to sort of be with him on the road and
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: I tried to, you know, sort of recount a little
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: of what those experiences were like. And the response was
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: was really nice. And I appreciate you guys reaching out
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: and letting me know that I don't know anyone who's
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: met Geno that didn't like him. It's true, Yeah, that's true.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: He was just like a gentleman. He was a gentleman, gentleman.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: He really was classy. I never got to meet him,
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: but just doing the two thousand and one project this year,
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: getting to listen to those radio calls again, and that's
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: another thing I've heard so much brought up even you know,
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: Brian Belich talking today about you know, those calls from
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: the super Bowl that will just you know, stand forever,
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: and that was just some of the coolest stuff for
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: me and Matt digging through those and finding those old
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: calls and you remember the big moments, but then you
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: hear his call and it just it puts even more
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: context onto it of you know how special it all was.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: So Yeah, it was tough. Yeah, thanks, I was well dressed,
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: you know, um go into a restaurant and they just
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: catered to him because he was just you know, they
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: knew him, and wherever he went, he just just he
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: treated people respectful. Yes, the gentleman's gentleman. How many years
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: was he the radio color guy? Right, Well, they had
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: it was long. It was something in that neighborhood. Yeah,
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: but I think they didn't they take a short break
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: with Gil and Gino when they tried somebody else. Well,
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: he had started with Dale Arnold, Gino did, yeah, and
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: then it was Gil came in. Um. But I don't
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: remember how long exactly, but it was it was closing
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: in on like three decades. I think it was, I
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: want to say twenty six or twenty eight or something
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: like that. It's a long time. Yeah, I mean when
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: you go back and no disrespect to Scott and Bob,
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: but you know, because there were so many great things
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: that happened with Gil and Gino doing the calls. When
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: you listen to that, like your mind goes back and
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: it's it's, um, it's nice, you know, yeah, it's nice. Yeah,
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: they hear them. Well, I think too, because they were
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: from the era where the Patriots had never won. Yeah,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: so when they got to call that first winning super Bowl,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: you could point you could feel the thrill that they
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: were experienced when they beat when they beat the Rams
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: the first the first times the Rams, it was almost
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: like an incredulous sound to their vol like they couldn't
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: believe't believe what they were swe like yeah, yeah, but
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: that's Gino in the background, and the Patriots world like
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: how about about That's like it was like like like
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Stewart, what do you know about that? Well? I
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: mean Gil, you know, because he was around in ninety
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: five when they went to the Super Bowl loss ninety
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: six and that ring that we got for the ASC Championship,
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: that's the one he always wore, like he said that
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: was the first one. I liked this one the best.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: You know, then that two thousand and one happened. Yeah, no,
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: but even after two thousand really yeah, he wore the
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: ASHC Championship ring. Yeah, yeah, it's part of the journey. Wow. Yeah.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: A lot happened over the last five and it really did,
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: I know, fake show today? Yeah, but yeah, because you know, Fred,
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: you and Matt were talking to me a little bit
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: about the Geno thing, and I was kind of reluctant
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: because I didn't, you know, like I knew him to
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: talk to, and everybody, like Fred said, knew like loved him.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: But I didn't really feel like I had a lot
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: to give because I didn't know him, you know, exceptionally well.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: And I was kind of reluctant. I didn't want to
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: embarrass myself by trying to write a tribute to a
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: guy that there's countless people that were a lot closer
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: to him than I was. But I just that's why
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate the people reaching out saying, hey, what
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: a nice job you did on on that. You know, Normally,
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like, yeah, thanks, that's that's what we do, Like,
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: no big deal, But that wasn't necessarily what we do,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: and it was a little different and I appreciated it. Yeah,
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: it's a good job. Yeah, so rest in peace, Gino.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: And you made me think of that when you brought
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: up Billy Ogden's a little earlier. Oh yeah, because that
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: was he's the one that. Yeah, he and Gil turned
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: us onto Bill. They treat him, you know what. I
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: go back at the Carrucci turned me on to Bill.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: He's a local. Yeah yeah, but Gil and Gino went
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: there all the time. Gino, you know, when Gino walked
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: in that place, it was like, you know, Brady was
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: walking in Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he was royalty. He's
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: in Buffalo, even in Buffalo, I mean back at he
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: goes back to the afc AFLA. You know. All right,
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.
• 1:58:51
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