Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Elizabeth Forspan | President of The Brandeis Association Calls out Mamdani Over Judicial Advisory Committee
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- 0:00Speaker 1: She is making her debut on SID and Friends in
- 0:02Speaker 1: the morning. Elizabeth Horsman, Liz, good morning, how are you.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Hey said, good morning. I'm a longtime listener, and that's
- 0:09Speaker 2: anonaor to be here.
- 0:10Speaker 3: It's an honor to have you too. Thank you for that.
- 0:12Speaker 1: So I see this letter it was sent to me
- 0:14Speaker 1: that I guess you guys wrote to Mayor Mam Donnie
- 0:17Speaker 1: at Reid's. We write as a coalition of New York
- 0:20Speaker 1: City's Jewish bar associations. We are attorneys and judges who
- 0:24Speaker 1: serve this city with an unwavering commitment to justice, the
- 0:28Speaker 1: rule of law, and the safety of all New Yorkers.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Your recent announcement of appointees to the Mayor's Advisory Committee
- 0:35Speaker 1: on the Judiciary has left us deeply disappointed. Not a
- 0:39Speaker 1: single Jewish attorney, former judge, or legal professional was appointed
- 0:45Speaker 1: to a committee your administration described as one that would
- 0:48Speaker 1: be quote truly reflective of New York City. So once again,
- 0:54Speaker 1: this lying, thieving, anti Semite Mayer, who claims he cares
- 0:58Speaker 1: about everybody Jewish people as much as anybody has shut
- 1:02Speaker 1: out the Jews, isn't that right?
- 1:05Speaker 2: Well, it seems like it. I mean, we have this committee,
- 1:09Speaker 2: the Mayor's Advisory Committee on the Judiciary. Right, we know,
- 1:12Speaker 2: mayors appoint judges the criminal court, family court, I mean
- 1:15Speaker 2: the mayor of New York. It's a powerful position. And
- 1:19Speaker 2: every mayor since Mayor Coach has had this committee that
- 1:22Speaker 2: recommends and evaluates judges for the criminal courts and the
- 1:26Speaker 2: family courts, which we have vacancies on. And you know
- 1:30Speaker 2: they list the mayors always listen to the chief Judge,
- 1:34Speaker 2: they listen to other judges, they take their recommendations. And
- 1:37Speaker 2: here we have the committee. It's got eighteen members plus
- 1:41Speaker 2: the chair. Not a single Jew. Wow, not a single Jew.
- 1:46Speaker 1: Eighteen members eighteen that's funny, Hi and the chair right
- 1:50Speaker 1: that significance, are not a single Jew. And of course,
- 1:53Speaker 1: my wife, my beautiful wife, practice is both criminal and
- 1:56Speaker 1: matrimonial law. So I know about a lot of this stuff.
- 2:00Speaker 1: And I know a lot of the judges too, wonderful people,
- 2:02Speaker 1: a lot of Jewish people. But in this case, I
- 2:05Speaker 1: think we're talking specifically about a judge that I know
- 2:08Speaker 1: everybody loves, and he's not even Maga like me. He's
- 2:11Speaker 1: not a big Trump guy. And that's Judge Leventhal. What's
- 2:14Speaker 1: the issue with him? Oh, year is what a great.
- 2:16Speaker 3: Guy he is.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Look, it is unprecedented for the mayor to reject the
- 2:22Speaker 2: recommendation of the Chief Judge. The Chief Judge Wilson recommended
- 2:26Speaker 2: Judge Leventhal and probably made other recommendations that we don't
- 2:30Speaker 2: know about that were rejected. The point is not just
- 2:33Speaker 2: about Judge Leventhal, who's got a stellar reputation, but what
- 2:37Speaker 2: about the thousands of other New Yorkers. They couldn't find
- 2:43Speaker 2: one Jew. I mean, it's a joke. I'm a lawyer.
- 2:46Speaker 2: My two sisters a lawyers, one of which Adrian is
- 2:48Speaker 2: your biggest fan. My brothers in law are lawyers. Every
- 2:52Speaker 2: Jewish family in New York has tons of lawyers. They
- 2:56Speaker 2: couldn't find one single Jewish former judge, law professor, lawyer
- 3:03Speaker 2: to sit on a committee that's going to shape the
- 3:06Speaker 2: future of the judiciary in New York City.
- 3:09Speaker 3: Hard to believe.
- 3:10Speaker 1: And Liz, the anti Semites will say, well, you know
- 3:12Speaker 1: what it's about. Time was second tired of people bending
- 3:15Speaker 1: over for the Jews. We want people that deserve the job.
- 3:19Speaker 1: You know, it's about merit. It's not about what your
- 3:21Speaker 1: religion is, or your gender, your race, your color, all
- 3:24Speaker 1: that stuff. So I guess you would have to make
- 3:27Speaker 1: the argument. And I know the answer already because again
- 3:30Speaker 1: everybody tells me how great he is, that Leventhal should
- 3:33Speaker 1: have gotten this based on his merit.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Right, Look, there needs to be judges and law professors.
- 3:40Speaker 2: They need to be people who share our background and
- 3:43Speaker 2: lived experiences. What did they say, the judges, the mayor's
- 3:47Speaker 2: own committee members say it should this is a committee
- 3:51Speaker 2: that's going to be truly reflective of New York City. Well,
- 3:54Speaker 2: I don't think it's truly reflective of New York City
- 3:57Speaker 2: when you don't have a single Jewish jurist law professor
- 4:01Speaker 2: on this committee. That's not reflective of New York City.
- 4:04Speaker 2: New York City has ten percent of New York City
- 4:07Speaker 2: is Jewish. We've got a million Jews in this city,
- 4:11Speaker 2: and they couldn't scrounge up one person to be on
- 4:14Speaker 2: the committee. It's beyond disappointed.
- 4:18Speaker 1: Look, nobody dislikes this mayor more than me. I think
- 4:20Speaker 1: that's part of the reason why you and your kids
- 4:22Speaker 1: love me, right.
- 4:22Speaker 3: Lace, I mean, but I do to this guy.
- 4:24Speaker 1: I actually be put in prison, to be honest, four
- 4:26Speaker 1: hours a day, every day and even weekends about the
- 4:29Speaker 1: chance on places like box News. I'm on record saying I.
- 4:33Speaker 3: Hate the man.
- 4:34Speaker 1: That's a strong word, but I literally hate Mayor Mom Donnie,
- 4:38Speaker 1: hate his guts. But can we prove beyond the shadow
- 4:41Speaker 1: of a doubt even though the numbers tell us the
- 4:43Speaker 1: whole story that Leventhal and other judges were not picked
- 4:48Speaker 1: because they're Jewish.
- 4:50Speaker 2: I can't get in their head, but I think we
- 4:53Speaker 2: would be very naive sid to think that in a
- 4:56Speaker 2: city with tens of thousands of Jews Jewish lawyers, that
- 5:02Speaker 2: not one of them is qualified to sit on this committee,
- 5:05Speaker 2: not a single one.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Has he come back with any responds to that great
- 5:09Speaker 1: letter you guys.
- 5:10Speaker 2: Wrote, Well, it took them quite some time. You know.
- 5:13Speaker 2: There was a law journal, a great law journal article
- 5:16Speaker 2: a week ago talking about Judge Levinshall, and it took
- 5:19Speaker 2: them a week to come up with some excuse why
- 5:22Speaker 2: they didn't put him in particular. But what about all
- 5:26Speaker 2: the other Well.
- 5:26Speaker 1: I got it because again, talking to some many brilliant people,
- 5:30Speaker 1: including author, who loved this guy, what was their excuse?
- 5:33Speaker 2: I'm curious they I think they said that he was
- 5:37Speaker 2: on Maxwell's defense team at some point.
- 5:42Speaker 3: But Delaine max Epstein case Okay, what.
- 5:46Speaker 2: What about Karla Moscowitz, Ruth Bulk and Leslie Stein, Bernice Siegel,
- 5:50Speaker 2: a member of the Brandeis Association. What about what about
- 5:54Speaker 2: all of those former judges law professors? Where are they?
- 5:58Speaker 2: Why aren't they on the committee?
- 6:00Speaker 3: That's a very good question.
- 6:01Speaker 1: Have you followed up then with a question like that
- 6:04Speaker 1: for the mayor and his committee?
- 6:05Speaker 2: Well, not just yet. This is all just blowing up.
- 6:08Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw Melissa Russo reported on it.
- 6:11Speaker 2: She was great. She tweeted out, it's the only place
- 6:14Speaker 2: in New York you're not going to find the Jewish lawyer.
- 6:17Speaker 3: You know what's funny about Melissa Russo? And I don't
- 6:20Speaker 3: know her.
- 6:21Speaker 1: So I see the last name Russo, and I thought
- 6:24Speaker 1: she was Italian.
- 6:25Speaker 3: So she came up.
- 6:26Speaker 1: On me at this Ready Day parade because I had
- 6:29Speaker 1: said that mom, Donnie doesn't care if Jewish people die.
- 6:34Speaker 1: And I did say that, and I still mean that way, okay,
- 6:36Speaker 1: that he wants Jews dead. And she said, well, how
- 6:39Speaker 1: can you say that? And I said, have you heard
- 6:41Speaker 1: about globalizing the Intifada?
- 6:43Speaker 3: Not that they do. They killed Jews.
- 6:44Speaker 1: So she came up on me at this Ready Day parade,
- 6:47Speaker 1: and she expected that she was going to overtake me
- 6:50Speaker 1: and I was going to cower, and I destroyed her.
- 6:53Speaker 1: The best part was, I'm like, what are you talking?
- 6:56Speaker 1: She goes, you know, I'm Jewish. I did not know
- 6:59Speaker 1: that So's mother happens to be Jewish, So don't be
- 7:03Speaker 1: confused by the Italian last name.
- 7:05Speaker 3: She's actually Jewish.
- 7:06Speaker 2: Did you know that we come in all stripes, shapes, sizes, colors.
- 7:12Speaker 2: That's what they don't want you to know, and they
- 7:15Speaker 2: don't want the world to know. They call us white colonizers.
- 7:19Speaker 2: I mean, more than fifty percent of Jews are not white,
- 7:23Speaker 2: so you know I'm not white. It's all an inversion
- 7:26Speaker 2: of the truth.
- 7:27Speaker 1: Yeah, it is all right. So first of all, great
- 7:30Speaker 1: job on this. I mean that, and keep fighting. So
- 7:33Speaker 1: what's your next move? What do you do next?
- 7:35Speaker 2: Well, we have to wait and see how the mayor responds.
- 7:38Speaker 2: This came out. You know, we sent the letter yesterday.
- 7:40Speaker 2: I hope there's going to be a response. I don't
- 7:42Speaker 2: know if you saw the New York Times, believe it
- 7:44Speaker 2: or not. The New York Times reported on it. The
- 7:46Speaker 2: comment from the mayor's office no comments.
- 7:50Speaker 3: No comment, No comments, unbelievable.
- 7:53Speaker 1: Well, keep fighting because this is an area where there
- 7:56Speaker 1: should be a bunch of Jewish people. Obviously, so many
- 8:00Speaker 1: great attorneys and judges, and judiciary system in New York
- 8:03Speaker 1: is a loaded with amazing Jewish people. So I would say,
- 8:06Speaker 1: keep fighting, Liz. You're doing amazing work here and we're
- 8:09Speaker 1: behind you, and if I can do it to help you,
- 8:11Speaker 1: I certainly will keep up the good fight.
- 8:13Speaker 3: Liz, thank you so much, you got it said, Thanks.
- 8:16Speaker 1: God, bless you, thank you. That's Elizabeth for Span and
- 8:19Speaker 1: again she is the president of the Brandeis Association, partner
- 8:23Speaker 1: at excuse me for Span Clears, LLP, on New York
- 8:27Speaker 1: based law firm. And pretty amazing that Mamdanie rejects levenhal
- 8:33Speaker 1: And there are still nineteen people on this committee, not
- 8:37Speaker 1: one Jewish person, not one. Keep up the fight, Elizabeth Forcepan.
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