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GIRL, 2, DIES IN SCORCHING CAR WHILE DOCTOR'S HUSBAND SURFS PORN, GUZZLES SHOPLIFTED BEER · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A little girl just two
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  Speaker 1: years old bakes dead dies in a scorching hot car
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  Speaker 1: while daddy, the doctor's husband, is inside in the air condition,
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  Speaker 1: surfing porn and guzzling shotlifted beer. Okay, what I said
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  Speaker 1: that correctly? I'm sure that I did. A female doctor's
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  Speaker 1: husband they have money to buy beer, is guzzling shop
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  Speaker 1: lifted beer and surfing porn while his two year old daughter,
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  Speaker 1: strapped in a car seat facing the sun directly bakes
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  Speaker 1: dead in a car while mommy is at work. I
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. I want to thank
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  Speaker 1: you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: In a shocking incident and Arizona father left his two
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  Speaker 2: year old daughter in a car as temperature soared to
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  Speaker 2: a deadly one hundred and nine degrees, resulting in a
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  Speaker 2: heartbreaking tragedy.
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  Speaker 1: Just imagine the heat in Arizona when little Parker is
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  Speaker 1: strapped in her car taking a nap for what three
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  Speaker 1: four hours while dad claims he's playing games. Turns out
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  Speaker 1: he's surfing porn guzzling shotlifted beer. One thing I found
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  Speaker 1: very effective when trying cases is to start the case
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  Speaker 1: off right, and that is taking the jury to the
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  Speaker 1: moment of the incident, whatever that incident might be. With
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  Speaker 1: a nine to one one call the real thing, the
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  Speaker 1: unvarnished truth, the unadded on fieltered reality. Let's listen.
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  Speaker 3: One, what's the address?
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  Speaker 1: What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: My big was in the cars of Okay, hold on
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  Speaker 3: in trency in the medical dispatches, Dana Line ook hour.
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  Speaker 1: It was when it burns off. I've been checking, my god,
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  Speaker 1: she was in the car.
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  Speaker 4: Three things, she's on the sponsor okay, and who is.
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  Speaker 1: My daughter?
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  Speaker 4: My daughter? And this was out in the driveway.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Doctor Erica Schultz arrives home around four PM and sees
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  Speaker 5: husband Chris, and two daughters, ages nine and five, but
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  Speaker 5: doesn't see Parker. Chris begins looking in all the rooms
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  Speaker 5: of the house, then suddenly runs outside the accurate and
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  Speaker 5: the driveways off. The air conditioner is off. The outside
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  Speaker 5: temperature is one hundred and nine degrees. Two year old
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  Speaker 5: Parker is removed from the vehicle, unresponsive, strapped in her
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  Speaker 5: child restraint system.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, because I'm hearing two people speaking to the
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  Speaker 1: nine to one one dispatch operator. I hear a man
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  Speaker 1: and a woman, and I hear the man saying, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my god, Oh my god. I hear the woman saying,
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  Speaker 1: how long has it been? And the man says an hour.
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  Speaker 1: The woman says, you didn't have the car on, it was,
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  Speaker 1: but it turns off right there. I'm looking down because
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  Speaker 1: I'm reading verbat and what was said on that nine
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  Speaker 1: one call right there? The dad acknowledges he knows that car,
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  Speaker 1: that type of car, that making model, turns off after
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  Speaker 1: thirty minutes. The engine turns off and so does the
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  Speaker 1: air condition He knew that when he went inside to
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  Speaker 1: watch porn. Yeah, listen, she still breathing.
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  Speaker 4: No, you're not breathing right now. Okay, we need to
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  Speaker 4: start CPR right now. Yeah, we are red. The helpers
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  Speaker 4: on the way to you. I need to hear CPR.
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  Speaker 4: I need them to count it out for me one two,
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  Speaker 4: one two. But my life, the doctor, my wife, the doctor.
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  Speaker 4: Tom Okay, Oh my god, oh my god.
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  Speaker 5: Christopher Schultz returns home from running errands and realizes his
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  Speaker 5: two year old daughter, Parker, is a sleep in her
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  Speaker 5: car seat, leaves her in the running car with the
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  Speaker 5: air conditioner on.
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  Speaker 1: What in the world. Straight out to doctor Bethany Marshall,
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  Speaker 1: renowned psycho analy's joining us out of LA. You can
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  Speaker 1: see her now on peacock is. She is the author
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  Speaker 1: of deal Breaker. She's at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: daddy has been living a good life. All he has
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  Speaker 1: to do is watch porn and drink beer. Wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: while mom's out working, she's the doctor. She's making the living. Fine,
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  Speaker 1: My mom made a living too. My dad also worked.
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  Speaker 1: But all he has to do. But can I see Bethany, please, Bethany,
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  Speaker 1: all he has is one job, and granted it's a
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  Speaker 1: big job, the most important job. Forget the doctor. The
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  Speaker 1: job of raising the three girls and ensuring their safety
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  Speaker 1: day and day out. That's his job. He has one
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  Speaker 1: thing to do. Does he have to cook a gourmet
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  Speaker 1: meal at night?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: Does he have to clean the house?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 1: One job, one thing, and he didn't do it.
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  Speaker 7: Nancy, you know I have not treated or evaluated this guy,
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  Speaker 7: But if this family was my patient, I would.
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  Speaker 1: Wonder a couple of things.
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  Speaker 7: First of all, did this guy have children so that
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  Speaker 7: he didn't have to work? Sometimes people hide behind children,
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  Speaker 7: They have them to avoid responsibility. What about the shoplifted beer?
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  Speaker 7: Is he shoplifting beer because he knows he's not supposed
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  Speaker 7: to drink. And if he buys it and has a
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  Speaker 7: receipt or it's on a credit card, his wife.
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  Speaker 1: Is going to find out.
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  Speaker 7: And then finally that Parnaga financy. You know, pornography addiction
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  Speaker 7: is such a problem. When men and sometimes women, but
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  Speaker 7: mostly men watch pornography, they try to delay ejaculation as
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  Speaker 7: long as possible. They do not use it for immediate
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  Speaker 7: masturbatory purposes. And because of that, once they start watching pornography,
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  Speaker 7: it can go on for hours and hours and hours.
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  Speaker 7: So this guy knew that once he started watching, he
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  Speaker 7: was not going to stop in a short period of time.
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  Speaker 1: Bethday, look at your screen. Right there there is Schulte's
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  Speaker 1: aka Doctor's hobby. There he is there, He's got the beer. Whoa, whoa,
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  Speaker 1: whoa what did he go in the bathroom? He went
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  Speaker 1: in the bathroom, I guess, and stuck it down his
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  Speaker 1: pants and out he goes. Hey, Dave mac joining me,
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  Speaker 1: I investigative reporter with crime stories. Dave is the stealing
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  Speaker 1: the beer. By the way that videos for our friends
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  Speaker 1: every cases we follow on YouTube, Dave is stealing the
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  Speaker 1: beer the same day that Parker dies in the car.
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  Speaker 5: It is the exact same day.
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  Speaker 8: That's how they pulled the surveillance butage and we're.
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  Speaker 9: Able to build a timeline for him.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that leads me to a whole other thing. You
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  Speaker 1: know what, doctor Bethany, let me go to Josh coles Rude,
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  Speaker 1: a criminal defense attorney, former assistant US Attorney, and founder
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  Speaker 1: of coles Rude Law Offices. That's quite a mouthful. Coals Rude.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see him coles Rude. This leads me to where
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  Speaker 1: are the children while he's inside shotlifting beer out in
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  Speaker 1: the parking lot waiting to get kidnapped?
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know, the father in this case certainly failed
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  Speaker 6: at his duties. Now you know what we want to do, though,
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  Speaker 6: is really look at what's going on with you know,
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  Speaker 6: try to take an emotion out of this.
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  Speaker 10: You know.
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  Speaker 6: So we have somebody who certainly is not good at
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  Speaker 6: being a father.
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  Speaker 1: Now you wait him, excuse me, I think I just
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  Speaker 1: choked because of you not good at being a father.
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  Speaker 1: I've got him on video going into shoplift beer stuffing
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  Speaker 1: it down his pants in the bathroom. Where are the
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  Speaker 1: children sitting out in the car in the heat again
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  Speaker 1: just before and you say he's not good? Is that
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of an understatement.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, you know, not good.
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  Speaker 6: He's a failure as a father, and that is true
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  Speaker 6: to see for everybody there. It's inexcusable and it's indefensible,
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  Speaker 6: you know, having your children in the car, especially when
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  Speaker 6: you're shoplifting, it really goes to show not only negligence
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  Speaker 6: but criminal conduct.
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  Speaker 1: He stole the beer at twelve oh seven. Just imagine
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  Speaker 1: stuffing a cold one down your pants. He gets home
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  Speaker 1: at twelve fifty three and leaves the daughter in the car,
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  Speaker 1: this one, he says, is dozing off with the car
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  Speaker 1: seat on, and he wants to let her sleep, that's
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  Speaker 1: his story. So he takes his beer and goes inside,
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  Speaker 1: leaving her outside. And you say, quote, he's not a
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  Speaker 1: good father. Is that a tiny bit of an understatement,
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  Speaker 1: Cols Rude?
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  Speaker 10: No, I think that it's not.
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  Speaker 6: You know, this isn't a case where a father did
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  Speaker 6: something out of hatred or breed, or even.
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  Speaker 10: That he intended something bad to happen.
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  Speaker 6: This was simply a father who was distracted not only
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  Speaker 6: in what he was doing in the moment, but also
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  Speaker 6: through his arrogance.
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  Speaker 10: And because of.
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  Speaker 6: That, you know, we obviously know the result in this
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  Speaker 6: case but it isn't more than that, and we shouldn't
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  Speaker 6: make it into.
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  Speaker 10: Something that it's not.
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  Speaker 6: This is simply a who, through neglect and his own arrogance,
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  Speaker 6: failed at his basic duties.
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  Speaker 10: Nothing more than that.
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  Speaker 1: Let me just clear something up. Erica Wursey is joining
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  Speaker 1: me with the She's the public safety reporter for the
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  Speaker 1: Arizona Daily Star at Tucson dot com. Erica, thank you
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  Speaker 1: for being with us. Erica. We just heard Josh Colesrude
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  Speaker 1: stay that this was just a case of dad being negligent. Erica,
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  Speaker 1: let me do a lightning round with you so we
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  Speaker 1: can establish the actual facts in this case, not the
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  Speaker 1: wonderland that Josh Colesrud would like us to believe to
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  Speaker 1: enter in and get lost. Erica, Yes, no. Isn't it
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  Speaker 1: true that the dad in this case, Chris Schultez, drives
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  Speaker 1: home from the liquor store? Correct? Yes, no, then he
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  Speaker 1: goes in with his beer, leaving his daughter pictured here
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  Speaker 1: to your old Parker in the car, strapped in unable
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  Speaker 1: to get out. Is that true? Erica wurst Absolutely correct.
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  Speaker 1: He opens the door of the home, he goes back
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  Speaker 1: to his computer, claiming that he is playing games while
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  Speaker 1: his other two girls go somewhere else in the home
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  Speaker 1: and he begins to surf porn and drink beer. Right, yes, no, yes,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely crime stories with Nancy Grace Cole's rude. You see
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  Speaker 1: one intentional act after the next. How are you coming
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  Speaker 1: up with the defense of negligence. It just quote happened
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  Speaker 1: through no one's fault. He has one intentional act after
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  Speaker 1: the next. That's intentional, That is not negligence.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know the way that the case was charged
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  Speaker 6: with child abuse and first degree murder, you know you
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  Speaker 6: have to prove that intentionally committed the act. And if
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  Speaker 6: you look at his actions, you don't see the motive
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  Speaker 6: or intent to cause the death. You certainly see recklessness.
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  Speaker 6: That he was aware of the harm and he disregarded
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  Speaker 6: the harm and forgot what time it was and by
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  Speaker 6: the time he realized what happened, unfortunately his daughter had
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  Speaker 6: passed away.
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  Speaker 10: That's not intentional. That is recklessness.
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  Speaker 6: And you can see that previous distances where he's done
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  Speaker 6: this before. Right, So he was aware of the danger
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  Speaker 6: and he disregarded the danger by being on the porn
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  Speaker 6: website and playing the PlayStation COLSRD.
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  Speaker 1: Do I look like I just fell off the turnip truck.
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  Speaker 10: No, you certainly don't, but I do know that you're reasonable.
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  Speaker 1: That was a yes and you care about it. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Murder cals rude, That was a yes. No, Col's rude.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it true? Under the law the law presumes we
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  Speaker 1: intend the natural consequence of our act. In other words,
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  Speaker 1: if I pick up a beautiful, thin, fragile china plate
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  Speaker 1: and I throw it to a cement floor, the law
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  Speaker 1: presumes that I intend to break it. The law presumes
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  Speaker 1: we intend the natural consequence of our act. Isn't that true?
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  Speaker 10: I respectfully disagree.
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  Speaker 6: You know, context matters, and here what we have is
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  Speaker 6: a okay.
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  Speaker 1: You want me to read the black and white Arizona
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  Speaker 1: law to you. Can you not admit that that is
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  Speaker 1: the law in Arizona?
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  Speaker 6: There is a different men's raa for every crime on
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  Speaker 6: the statute book.
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  Speaker 10: Not all of them are intentional.
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  Speaker 6: Many are a lesser men'sraa, which is what the what
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  Speaker 6: you intended to happen? Or we're reckless about right? So
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  Speaker 6: here you can either be reckless, knowing, intentional, or willful.
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  Speaker 6: Those are four different states of mind. You're talking about
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  Speaker 6: just one of them intentional. But here the actions speak
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  Speaker 6: of recklessness, that he knew of the danger and he
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  Speaker 6: disregarded that danger by his distraction and arrogance. That context matters.
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  Speaker 6: There's nothing in the motive here that says that he
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  Speaker 6: intended for this act to happen. There's no hatred, there's
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  Speaker 6: no greed, there's nothing of that sort.
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  Speaker 1: I tell you, I say, we're you're going calls thru.
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  Speaker 1: But now you have forced me to read the black
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  Speaker 1: and white letter of the Arizona law. I thought you
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  Speaker 1: would can see that that is the law. But let
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  Speaker 1: me read it. In Arizona law, a person is considered
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  Speaker 1: to intend a natural and probable consequence of their act. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so you leave a child in the car, Chris McDonough.
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  Speaker 1: The heat, the temperature on that day was one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and nine degrees outside, and you know the car temperature
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  Speaker 1: vastly increases in a stifling, hot, enclosed car in direct sun.
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  Speaker 1: So have you ever heard of like serial killers when
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  Speaker 1: they're little, they'll take a magnifying glass and put it
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  Speaker 1: on an insect and they burn it dead. They know
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  Speaker 1: what's going to happen. Right, you've heard of that? Correct?
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  Speaker 11: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, God bless you for a single syllable answer. So
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  Speaker 1: McDonough leaving a child and one hundred and nine degree
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  Speaker 1: outside strapped in a car with the windows up, what
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  Speaker 1: do you assume the natural consequence would be death?
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  Speaker 12: Evident of the fact that he didn't leave his family
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  Speaker 12: dog in the car. The child is an inconvenience for
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  Speaker 12: this guy. I mean he goes earlier at the heat
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  Speaker 12: of the day, between twelve noon and two pm, in
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  Speaker 12: the middle of July, where the highest temperature in that
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  Speaker 12: area is one hundred and fifteen degrees. He steals a beer,
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  Speaker 12: brings the child home, and leaves her in the car.
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  Speaker 12: If that's not intent, I don't know what is.
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  Speaker 1: Under the law. Also, thank you for schooling the veteran
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  Speaker 1: defense attorney. He's tried a lot of cases. Josh Coles rude.
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  Speaker 1: I'm afraid to open his mic, but I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: go out on a limb. Josh Coles rude. Isn't it
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  Speaker 1: true that murder one can be proven under the theory
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  Speaker 1: of the abandoned and malignant heart. Example, there's a street
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  Speaker 1: festival and I get in my beat up mini van
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  Speaker 1: and I sit on the break at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: I guess it and I take off at one hundred
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  Speaker 1: mph through that festival, and I mow down several people
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  Speaker 1: and kill them. That is an abandoned, malignant heart, abandoned
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  Speaker 1: to the suffering of others, And that can equal murder one.
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  Speaker 1: It is a theory that supports murder one abandoned and
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  Speaker 1: malignant heart. Isn't that true?
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  Speaker 6: Well, context matters, and what you're talking about is circumstantial evidence.
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  Speaker 6: So you know, let's look at the circumstantial evidence too,
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  Speaker 6: so determine what the defendant's state of mind is.
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  Speaker 10: So we know that he was drinking, and that he
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  Speaker 10: was aware of the risk.
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  Speaker 6: That the car's air conditioning was shut off after thirty minutes,
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  Speaker 6: and this hadn't happened before, and he left his daughter
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  Speaker 6: in the car so he could go look at porn
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  Speaker 6: and play on his PlayStation and allegedly play games with
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  Speaker 6: his other kids.
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  Speaker 10: And during that time he lost track of time.
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  Speaker 6: There's no evidence that he intended for this act to
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  Speaker 6: occur or that he had some okaylie.
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  Speaker 1: Back to my question, if I can get us back
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the road. I was prepared for this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready for you. I looked at the loss so
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  Speaker 1: I could read it to you again. Verbatim out of Arizona.
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  Speaker 1: Abandoned malignant heart is a legal concept known as depraved
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  Speaker 1: heart murder. It is implied malice and a basis for
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  Speaker 1: murder in Arizona. It is a killing that results from
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  Speaker 1: extreme indifference to human life, even though defendant did not
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  Speaker 1: specifically intend to kill. So that said, there are three lines,
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  Speaker 1: three avenues under which the state can get a murder conviction.
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  Speaker 1: One the law presumes you intend the natural consequence of
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  Speaker 1: your act the plate of China to the cement floor.
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  Speaker 1: Number two abandoned and malignant heart. He did something with
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  Speaker 1: such extreme indifference to the life of his daughter that
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  Speaker 1: it results in a murder charge. And three felony murder.
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  Speaker 1: That is, when a death occurs during the commission of
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  Speaker 1: a felony. The felony here would be child neglect. A
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  Speaker 1: death occurred during child neglect. Now, I know what you're
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  Speaker 1: about to do. You're about to throw some contextual argument
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  Speaker 1: at me. But I know for a fact that those
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  Speaker 1: three theories i've murder apply to this case. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: arguing he intended to kill his daughter when he slammed
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  Speaker 1: the door. I'm not arguing that. I don't believe that's true,
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  Speaker 1: but I believe all of the other three avenues to
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  Speaker 1: murder fit Shultice.
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  Speaker 10: Well, those three.
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  Speaker 6: Theories may or may not work in front of a jury,
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  Speaker 6: but what does matter is circumstantial evidence, because in order
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  Speaker 6: to prove that he had some malignant intent or that
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  Speaker 6: this is a felony murder, you have to really delve
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  Speaker 6: into his motivation.
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  Speaker 10: What was he doing at the time that this happened.
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  Speaker 6: He was drinking, He was distracted by watching porn on
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  Speaker 6: the PlayStation and playing with.
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  Speaker 10: His other children. You know, there's notion.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't playing with them. He sent them to another
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  Speaker 1: room so he could watch porn, you know, naked ladies.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, baby bpr is still going on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you're still going on. Okay, you're going to perform that
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  Speaker 4: until the units arrive and take over for you.
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  Speaker 1: Baby babe, Babe, babe.
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  Speaker 2: The child's mother returned home to a scene of unimaginable grief,
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  Speaker 2: finding her daughter lifeless after being trapped in the sweltering
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  Speaker 2: vehicle for over three hours.
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  Speaker 1: So daddy has the other two girls at a trampoline
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  Speaker 1: part with friends. Okay, So they're at a kind of
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  Speaker 1: a jumpy house type thing, and it's our understanding that
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: that trampoline park is indoors in an air conditioned facility
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: where literally the floors are all trampolines. Okay, so the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: two older children five and nine are there, he only
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: has to take care of one child one. Okay, Welcome back, everybody.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Daddy under suspicion in the death of his two year
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: old little girl, Parker. Daddy's inside drinking stolen beer and
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: watching porn while this child dies out in a baking
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: hot car.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Listen Filter Scull's nine one one as Erica performs CPR
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: and her daughter. When responders arrived, the temperature is one
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: hundred and nine degrees and Parker is transported to Banner
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: University Medical Center or fifty eight PM to year old
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: Parker pronounced Debt. The medical examiner says the temperature inside
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: the car was one hundred and eight point nine degrees
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: when first responders arrived, confirming she died of heat exposure.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: How hot does it get in a car when the
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: tip is one hundred and nine outside? Watch this, So
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: let's start.
• 23:06
  Speaker 11: A timer and let's see exactly how hot it gets
• 23:10
  Speaker 11: in here. I'm at five minutes in. It is unbelievably hot.
• 23:15
  Speaker 11: In here. We're nearing one hundred degrees already, and I
• 23:21
  Speaker 11: can tell you that it is stifling in here. Okay,
• 23:25
  Speaker 11: I'm at fifteen minutes now and it's about one hundred
• 23:30
  Speaker 11: and ten in my car. The temperature right now is
• 23:34
  Speaker 11: about one fifteen. What I really wanted to set out
• 23:38
  Speaker 11: to do is see how I felt to be left
• 23:40
  Speaker 11: in a parked car.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: He's talking about a pet in a parked car, not
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: a child, but the physics, the law, the law of
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: nature applies. And that is from our friend doctor Ernie
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Ward joining us now dtor Kendall Crowns. He is a
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: renowned chief medical examiner in Terrent County. That's Fort Worth.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Never a lack of business in the morgue there. He's
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the esteemed lecturer at the Burnett School of Medicine at TCU,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: and he is the star of a hit podcast series,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Mayhem in the Morgue. Doctor Kindle Crowns U Control Room.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Could you show me a picture of two year old Parker.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Every time I look at her, I think of my
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: twins at age two, age two. While we look at Parker,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Doctor Kindall Crowns, could you explain what happens to a
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: child in a stifling hot car temp out side one
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: o nine.
• 24:43
  Speaker 13: Certainly, so when a child's left in a car that
• 24:45
  Speaker 13: it's at a high temperature of one oh nine, their
• 24:48
  Speaker 13: bodies heat up about three to five times faster than
• 24:51
  Speaker 13: an adult. So within minutes they're already starting to sweat,
• 24:55
  Speaker 13: and then their body becomes overwhelmed and they start feeling dizzy.
• 24:58
  Speaker 13: They start having had a and begin vomiting at about
• 25:02
  Speaker 13: a temperature of one hundred and four. When the core
• 25:05
  Speaker 13: body temperature of the child reaches one hundred and four,
• 25:08
  Speaker 13: they're starting to really feel the signs of heatstroke and
• 25:11
  Speaker 13: they're beginning to go even further, passing out going into
• 25:15
  Speaker 13: a coma. At about a body temperature of one hundred
• 25:18
  Speaker 13: and seven, their entire organ systems begin to fail and
• 25:21
  Speaker 13: shut down. They go to into a coma and die.
• 25:25
  Speaker 13: So it takes a matter of minutes, especially in a
• 25:28
  Speaker 13: temperature of one hundred and nine, for a child to
• 25:30
  Speaker 13: go from normal to fatal. It'd probably be about twenty
• 25:36
  Speaker 13: minutes tops.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: When they endure that. Doctor Kimdl crowns, what does the
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: child live through? Because in a case that we went
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: to the courtroom and watched gabble to gabble justin Ross Harris,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Baby Cooper dye in a hot car while he was
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: inside his workplace at home Depot corporate texting sexting with
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: underage women and other women. Baby Cooper died in the car,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: and I recalled distinctly that his head was scratched in
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the back and I think across his neck, but I'm
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: sure the back of the head where he was banging it,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: banging it against his car seat, trying to get out
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: and trying to breathe. So that tells me, Doctor Kimdle Crowns,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: that the child doesn't just pass out and die like
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: they told us in Brian Coburger that the four Ido
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: students went to sleep and they woke up in heaven.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: That's not at all what happened. Killy gonsolve us was
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: dead like thirty times in the face alone. So I
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: know the child is awake based on what Baby Cooper's
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: body revealed and the way you said it. It just
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: gets hot and they die. That's not what happens, Doctor
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Kendall Crowns.
• 27:07
  Speaker 13: Well, that is I agree with you. That is not
• 27:10
  Speaker 13: what happens. And I did say that there is a
• 27:12
  Speaker 13: time period between the initial beginning of the heatstroke, where
• 27:16
  Speaker 13: the child is feeling hot, sweating, having to breathe in
• 27:20
  Speaker 13: this hot air, and begins to become confused, dizzy, starts vomiting,
• 27:26
  Speaker 13: and eventually, after several minutes, will pass out and then
• 27:30
  Speaker 13: go into a coma and die. But that time period
• 27:32
  Speaker 13: between the beginning and the coma is a very difficult
• 27:36
  Speaker 13: time period with the sweating, the vomiting of the dizzyness,
• 27:39
  Speaker 13: and it can even result in a seizure.
• 27:41
  Speaker 10: At some point.
• 27:42
  Speaker 13: Kids strapped into their car.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Seat it so they'll be when you were in a
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: hot car, it feels like there's air in there, but
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: it feels like you can't breathe.
• 27:56
  Speaker 13: It's because the heated air actually is makes your co
• 28:00
  Speaker 13: of your mouth and your airway kind of swell and
• 28:03
  Speaker 13: become a demitus, and it's almost burning your airway to
• 28:06
  Speaker 13: breathe in this hot air, so it's.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Uncomfortable, Doctor Kimmel Crown's in preparation for tonight's show yesterday,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I sat out in the car and I turned it
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: off and let the windows were already up, and sat
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: there in the sun, and it got harder and harder
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: to breathe, and I up here I knew there was
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: air in the car, but it didn't feel that way.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: It felt like all the air had been sucked out
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: of the car. How does that happen.
• 28:41
  Speaker 13: It's your body's reaction to the heat, and it's starting
• 28:44
  Speaker 13: to decompensate because of the heat. You're sweating and you're
• 28:48
  Speaker 13: slowly becoming dehydrated, and your organs are starting to shut
• 28:52
  Speaker 13: down because the elevated temperature eventually would cause you to
• 28:56
  Speaker 13: go into multi organ failure and die.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Schultez claims he was putting up groceries and got distracted
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: playing video games on PlayStation. Investigators find out he was
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: drinking beer and watching porn on the internet while his
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: older daughters, nine and five are playing nearby.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Joining us. Erica Worst, a public safety reporter with the
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Arizona Daily Star in tusaun dot com Erica. So at
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the beginning, hey lied. He said that he was putting
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: away groceries and playing PlayStation.
• 29:27
  Speaker 14: Yeah, he said he was home way after he actually
• 29:33
  Speaker 14: got home, and that was caught on neighbor's security camera.
• 29:36
  Speaker 14: So she was not in there for thirty to forty
• 29:40
  Speaker 14: five minutes, and they were able to prove that she
• 29:43
  Speaker 14: was in there for hours. Based on his life, which
• 29:48
  Speaker 14: they were absolutely able to prove. We're life well.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Christopher Schultez, the father, failed to rescue his daughter from
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: the scorching car reportedly consumed by video games and explicit
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: online content.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Police immediately, as you just heard Erica Werced from the
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Arizona Daily Star in Tucson dot Com report, police were
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: first told and you hear him saying this in the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: nine one one call. He's already saying this in the
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: nine to one one call that baby Parker was only
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: in the car for minutes minutes, but based on security
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: camp from neighbors videos, their ring cams, or surveillance videos,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: he was actually in the home for hours and he
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: knew the vehicle cut off. The engine and air go
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: the air conditioner both cut off after thirty minutes.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: Investigators began creating a timeline. Shelters tells them he got
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: home to thirty pm and Parker was asleep in the car.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: Surveillance footage shows Sheltas did not arrive home at two
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: thirty as he claims he got home at twelve fifty
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: three pm. Shelts is seen walking into the house and
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: not coming back out again until after his wife gets
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: home at four oh eight pm when Shelters is seen
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: running out.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: To the car, running but too late. I want you
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: to see daddy. I don't when I compare him to
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: my daddy, he really doesn't deserve that title. Christopher Schultee,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: speaking on bodycam to police.
• 31:21
  Speaker 10: So any any.
• 31:22
  Speaker 13: Death, they have to treat it like a crime scene.
• 31:29
  Speaker 13: I know this is extremely difficult for you.
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: This is a normal process.
• 31:34
  Speaker 13: That you have to follow through with.
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: I don't want you to be blindsided by anything, but
• 31:40
  Speaker 10: that's that's.
• 31:41
  Speaker 13: What's going to be going on for an of the friends.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I know, and I know this isn't easy for you.
• 31:50
  Speaker 10: That's that's why I'm trying to be straightforward and honestly you. Okay,
• 31:53
  Speaker 10: I don't want to keep any secrets. I don't want
• 31:55
  Speaker 10: to hide anything for you. Someone's going to talk to
• 31:57
  Speaker 10: you about what happened.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Then, all right.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Quite so, I'm being treated like a murderer. And he
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: starts crying because he's being treated like a murderer. Josh colsrude,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: don't you hate it when your clients are caught completely
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: self absorbed?
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: Well, this is a situation where a father is dealing
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: in grief. I think we can all see that he
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: just lost a two year old daughter, and he's reacting
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: like somebody.
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: Who loves his child.
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: He's not acting like somebody who intended for this to happen.
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: And you know there is an element here of mercy,
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: you know, you know, justice demands accountability, but it also
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: demands a dose of mercy. And we're looking at human
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: emotion at its most raw form. And you know, what
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: would you expect a father to do or act like
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: if he lost what you.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Mean, the father that's getting himself some cold water out
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: of the fridge right there, That father, he probably.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: Doesn't even know that he's doing that. He's lost in grief,
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: which is what you would expect for somebody who truly
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: loved their daughter. You're not seeing crocodile tears here. You're
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: seeing genuine emotion and love for somebody and.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Genuinely get himself a glass of cold water on ice
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: side of the fridge after his daughter just thirsted in
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: the heat in the car. Yeah, okay, fill up, and
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: that ain't all. Listen.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: You will keep.
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: Family, our whole family.
• 33:55
  Speaker 13: So we can't let you do that right now.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: We have to stand by with you, Okay, as soon
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: as he can't really.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Elect you stay in the room if you want under
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: that house.
• 34:04
  Speaker 12: I know this isn't easy for you.
• 34:05
  Speaker 10: But the quicker we get this son in fishelp so s.
• 34:09
  Speaker 13: You can be with your wife, all right, so.
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: I could go with my wife.
• 34:15
  Speaker 10: We're not going to shower anymore.
• 34:16
  Speaker 13: Now you need to stand by with it.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why then crime stories with Nancy Grace,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall help me. He's saying, I have to
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: get to my wife at the hospital, but first I'm
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: going to luxuriate in hot shower. What this isn't fitting
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: together for me? Now, I'm just a trial lawyer. You're
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: the shrink. You're the renowned psychoanalyst out of LA. What
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: is going on? He's fighting about taking a shower.
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: Parker is not a real person to him. He's stuck
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: her in the car so he could watch pornography while
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: the other girls wore away at a trampoline party. That's
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: what he wanted to do. He itified her, He treated
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: her like she was an it. I have watched all
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: the police surveillance and what I noticed he does not
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: get upset until they say it's a crime scene. Prior
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: to that he looks panicked, not sad. Getting into the
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: shower is to kind of pull himself together to go
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: to the hospital. If your baby died, you would be
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: rushing out the door. You would be saying to the
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: police officers, take me in the car now, I'm going
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: to run to the hospital if you will not put
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: me in the car. He is taking time to pull
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: himself together, which tells.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Me that he's a hardish minute. Dr Bethany, I have
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: a question which may bear on what you're saying. Erica
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: were joining us Arizona Daily Star. Erica wasn't maybe Parker
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: pronounced dad at the hospital? Yeah, so, Dave Matt Crime
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Stories investigative reporter. Is it possible that he wanted to
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: take a shower before Parker had even been declared dead?
• 36:11
  Speaker 9: Nancy, He actually gets a phone call from or a
• 36:15
  Speaker 9: text from Erica, and that's when he tells the police,
• 36:18
  Speaker 9: my wife wants me at the hospital. I'm guessing based
• 36:21
  Speaker 9: on the fact that he didn't start screaming my daughter's dead,
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: he actually is. You know, he says, I got to
• 36:27
  Speaker 9: get a shower, I got to rinse off before I
• 36:29
  Speaker 9: go to my wife at the hospital. I'm need to
• 36:31
  Speaker 9: be there with her.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: But look at him.
• 36:33
  Speaker 9: He's not focused on anything except himself and the police
• 36:36
  Speaker 9: are going he's trying to wash off evidence.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I was wondering about the desire to watch
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Chris McDonough. I've seen it in gunshot cases where the
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: defendant can't wait. He suddenly has to go to the
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: bathroom or take a shower to get that GSR gunshot
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: residue off his hands, which you can do really easily
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: with tap water. But here I was trying to figure
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: out why is he so held bit on taking a shower.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: His wife and daughter are at the hospital. What's with
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the hot shower?
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 37:08
  Speaker 12: I think Dave maybe onto something here. Is there something
• 37:11
  Speaker 12: else that we're just not aware of? But he is
• 37:14
  Speaker 12: in his mind and talk about malignant intent, right, the
• 37:17
  Speaker 12: one question where's Parker at that moment? That guy is
• 37:22
  Speaker 12: in a whole different world, and this video shows us
• 37:25
  Speaker 12: it's his world, it's not her world.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Okay. Doctor Bethany Marshall weighan.
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: Nancy act is because he was watching pornography. He could
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: have lubricant all over himself and he's trying to clean
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: himself up because the evidence in this case would not
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: be gun shot residue. It would be evidence that he's masturbating.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: While his daughter's in the car.
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: I think that would be the evidence he would want
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: to wash off.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: The investigators uncovered text messages hinting that this tragic over
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: saying was not an isolated incident, raising questions about a
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: history of.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Negligence, joining us an all star panel to make sense
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: of what we know tonight? Do I understand correctly? Dave
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Matt Crime Stories investigative reporter that Daddy Schultics knew the
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: car would cut off, and he had been warned before
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: by his wife not to leave the girls in the car.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: And we hear Mommy saying that when she gets home,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I told you not to do this.
• 38:30
  Speaker 10: Yes, exactly, Nancy.
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: He knew exactly how long that NBAC stayed on in
• 38:35
  Speaker 8: idle before it was cutting off automatically, and she had
• 38:39
  Speaker 8: continually warned him about leaving the children in the car unattended.
• 38:44
  Speaker 9: This was a regular habit of his, and she warned
• 38:46
  Speaker 9: him not to do it.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: You know, over and over we learn he knew very
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: well not to do this. Look at this text mom
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: sent him. I told you to stop leaving them in
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: the car. How many times have I told you? And
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: he says, Babe, I'm sorry, but I want you to
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: hear what mommy does in court. He's charged with murder
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: and mommy insists the judge let him out on bond,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: says he is a quote good dad and he needs
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: to come home out of jail so he can grieve. Listen,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I'm just asking if you can allow him to come
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: home to us. This was a big mistake, and I
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: think that this doesn't represent him that from our friends
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: at KVATV and eight fifty seven to two, son Erica
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Wrest joining us Arizona Daily Star. Is it true that
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: when the judge lets him out on bond, he goes
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: with the family on a vacation to Hawaii? Is that true?
• 39:51
  Speaker 14: Is one of the.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Weirdest things, jos Coles, Rude, How's that going to look
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: to a jury that mommy goes in front of a
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: judge and begs for a lower bond so he can
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: come out and grieve. And what he grieves at the
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: big island on the beach with one of those big
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: drinks in a pineapple, Well, I.
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: Think it says a lot about the victims in this case.
• 40:18
  Speaker 10: And the mother is a.
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: Victim, and she's the next of kin, and she's grieving,
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: and she understands the context in which this happened, and
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: she knows her husband and she knows that he's not
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: a danger to her family anymore, and she wants to
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: forgive him. And the judge saw it the same way and.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Rules, Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. You're talking
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Christy talk, doctor Bethony Marshall. Can't she forgive him while
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: he's in jail? Does he have to be forgiven? On
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: the beach at the Big Island.
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: You know Nancy on the bodycamp. You see her comforting him,
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: very calmly. It's the same woman. It's the doctor mother.
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: You can tell by the tattoos on her arms. And
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: she's calmly saying it's okay, babe, something that extent. So
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: she is more concerned about him than she is about
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: the baby. It's very, very perplexing, Nancy. She's an anesthesiologist,
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: you know what that means. She her profession is keeping
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: people alive while under surgery. She knows that these kids
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: have been left in the car. She knows the risk
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: to them. She may be one of these mothers. Again,
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: I've never treated or evaluated her, who is more bonded
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: with the father with the love object than with her
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: own children.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Shockingly, the hubby slash dad turns down a sweet heart
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: deal for maximum ten years. He would probably have been
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: out on in about five years. I don't know why
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: the yests of children are treated differently than deaths of adults.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Why did he turn down the deal because the judge
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: gutted the state's evidence.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: Listen, Shelton's face is a first degree murder trial, and
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: the prosecutors intend to introduce evidence of Shelton's porn surge
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: at trial, but the request was denied by Judge Kimberly Ortiz.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: The judge decided the state is precluded from any eliciting
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: testimony in its case in chief regarding the defendant looking
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: for pornography on PlayStation before his daughter's body is discovered.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Well, thanks, judge. By doing that, you gutted the state's case,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: showing his course of conduct, frame of mind, his motivation
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: at the time the child was killed. Did that really happen?
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Dave Mack? The judge ruled out any evidence of pornsurfing.
• 42:54
  Speaker 15: Absolutely, Nancy, and this is something that shocked everyone involved
• 42:59
  Speaker 15: in the case.
• 43:00
  Speaker 10: That the judge said, you.
• 43:01
  Speaker 9: Can't let anything in about it. You can't let anybody
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: talk about it. This is off the table.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Take a look at this bodycam video. Parker has been
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: brought into the home and you see everyone there. It
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: looks like some of the police know that Parker is dying,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: while one person a minister CPR. In the end, Daves
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: mac as he approaches trial after he's turned out a
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: sweet heart deal, he suddenly pleads guilty when he looks
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: at the evidence against him. What's the sentence?
• 43:30
  Speaker 10: Fancy?
• 43:31
  Speaker 15: The sentence comes out as a flat time sentence of
• 43:35
  Speaker 15: twenty to thirty years without parole and with the sentences
• 43:40
  Speaker 15: for the various charges to run consecutively.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Shulti now facing a sentencing range of twenty to thirty
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: years flat time. What does that mean? Will he get
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: out early? Will there be a sudden turn of events
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: like there have been in the past, And what if
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: any duty does Mommy face? We wait as justice unfolds,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: and we remember an American hero, Lieutenant Albert Stout, Robstown Police, Texas,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: killed in the line of duty after thirty one years
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: on the force, leaving behind his wife and three children.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: American hero Lieutenant Albert Stout, Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,