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- 0:40What is going on everybody we are back ABJ live.
- 0:44We hope I hope our connection has been shit.
- 0:48So I don't think stream yard just hates me or fire.
- 0:51Our Google Chrome is not a good browser for stream yard, but
- 0:55stream yard, you're on, you're on, you're on razor thin wire
- 0:57right here. This stream is garbage because
- 0:59I've been having issues with all my 5.
- 1:09Stream, but we'll figure it out. We'll see how it goes.
- 1:12Hopefully BP can hear me and it's not like chopping.
- 1:17I missed it. I missed you there for five
- 1:18seconds, but that's OK. We'll make it work.
- 1:20We've we've dealt with worse. We've dealt with worse.
- 1:23Yeah. So.
- 1:25Ladies and gentlemen tonight, welcome back on the ABJ on air.
- 1:29This on this is not just live streaming content where I just
- 1:32sit around and watch weekly wrestling television online or
- 1:35hang out. I told you this going to be a
- 1:37variety show sometimes It's going to be some of the older
- 1:39content that you have made seen before that was in the podcast
- 1:41format. And now this is kind of podcast,
- 1:43but ish live stream ish style content.
- 1:46But this is kind of the the hybrid of what you used to know,
- 1:49what you used to know as Tornado tag.
- 1:51So tonight we're not talking about flips, we're not talking
- 1:53about 5 star classics. We're talking about destruction.
- 1:56And when we're talking about a team that didn't just win, they
- 1:59dominated an entire era of tag team wrestling.
- 2:02Would you say we're talking about pain and destruction?
- 2:04Yes, paint spikes, intensity, A presence that felt more like war
- 2:10than a match. Tonight, we break down the
- 2:12history and the impact and legacy of one of the most iconic
- 2:14tag teams of all time. And this year's induction to the
- 2:17WWE Hall of Fame. Demolition.
- 2:20I'm not doing it alone. I got BP with me.
- 2:22So you already know we're about to go deep with this one.
- 2:24So let's get into ABJ on air #14 with the history of Demolition.
- 2:30And the thing that's really sad and we got to kick it off, we
- 2:32had to start a little earlier than we anticipated, you know,
- 2:35some scheduling stuff. So neither one of us had time to
- 2:37paint our faces. Yeah, which is a bummer.
- 2:40We are very lucky though, when it comes to this topic and this
- 2:44this thing because we got to work with Demolition on a random
- 2:50whim, show up at a show thinking you're going to do one thing and
- 2:54then get thrusted into hosting a fan meet and greet breakfast
- 2:59with Demolition, which was. Awesome, very fun.
- 3:02Yeah, it was awesome. The whole first half, it was
- 3:05really good because we were kind of like geeking out the whole
- 3:07time, like we're just going to win this.
- 3:09We set cameras up. It is available to watch over on
- 3:12YouTube so you can go check it out.
- 3:14But we kind of just set the cameras up and we're like BP,
- 3:17let's just have fun. And then nobody was asking
- 3:19questions at first. So the first like 5 questions
- 3:21just us interviewing. Demolition.
- 3:24Fun stuff, fun stuff. Very memorable.
- 3:25In fact, if you see it in the upper right here, it's not super
- 3:30easy to see. That is an autographed picture
- 3:31of demolition from that day that was actually given to me by
- 3:34Tommy Rich of all people. Yeah.
- 3:37Tommy Rich just said, I, I thanked him for doing another
- 3:41thing we filmed just to kind of show the vendors show off of
- 3:44what was going at the, at the convention.
- 3:46And he said, oh, thank you, brother, thank you.
- 3:48And he just hands me a picture, not of him of demolition that
- 3:51I'm only assuming he swiped off their table and now it's sitting
- 3:54on my wall. Yeah, I got a picture I bought.
- 3:57I got it from Paul BO1, time of the demolition autograph,
- 4:00because I didn't have one. I was like the whole day we were
- 4:02with them. We didn't ask him for a photo,
- 4:04We didn't ask him for autographs.
- 4:05We didn't do any of that. We just worked with them, asked
- 4:08him some questions, hung out with them, and then just left
- 4:10them alone. I was like, why didn't we get
- 4:12fucking picture? I did come back and privately
- 4:16geek out with with Smash about Repo Man because I am a noted.
- 4:21I think the only person that rivals my phantom of Repo Man is
- 4:24Matt Turner. We are the two biggest Repo Man
- 4:28fans in the world. And I got the talk very briefly
- 4:31with Smash about his his turn as Repo Man.
- 4:34But we're not here to talk about Repo Man.
- 4:37We're here to talk about demolition, which predated Repo
- 4:40Man and predated smashed, or at least that smashed Barry Darso.
- 4:45So we will also be covering a little bit of today's wrestling
- 4:48and talking about it at the end of the episode.
- 4:50And we'll let you guys jump in and talk and we'll interact with
- 4:52you guys in the chat. But we're going to get to the
- 4:54history of demolition and then the end acts of back and we'll
- 4:59be us talking about what's going on today.
- 5:01Because I know there's a lot of talk about a lot of news, a lot
- 5:03of past pay-per-view that happened, upcoming pay per views
- 5:06that are happening. So we'll we'll cover all that in
- 5:08a minute as well. So stay with us and enjoy the
- 5:10history of demolition. So you got to talk about the
- 5:15Road Warriors. If you're talking, look at you
- 5:17with the Genesee Cream Ale. My last one.
- 5:20My last one. You got to talk about the Road
- 5:24Warriors when you're talking about demolition, just because
- 5:29the the biggest sling and arrow that a lot of people will throw
- 5:33at demolition is that, oh, they were a Road Warriors RIP off.
- 5:36They were big guys in face paint that beat up people and were
- 5:41very rough and tumble and had studded leather all over the
- 5:43place. And they're actually based off
- 5:47of characters from the movie Road Warrior, Mad Max or
- 5:50whatever you want to say that that that franchise, they're
- 5:54actually based off of a character that another person
- 5:59that's going to the Hall of Fame this year was or the legacy
- 6:02Wing, Sid Vicious, Sid Udi. He portrayed a character, him
- 6:08and another guy, Jeff Van Camp, portrayed a character in Memphis
- 6:11called Lord Humongous, which was a direct RIP off of.
- 6:14I believe that's from Mad Max 2 Beyond Thunderdome.
- 6:17I was Lord Humongous and and it was very much the demolition
- 6:21look with the almost S&M looking, you know, leather and
- 6:25studs and I'll. Yeah, better workers.
- 6:30The road warriors are up there at the greatest tag teams of all
- 6:33time, I think. But I, I, I knew Demolition
- 6:37first. I discovered them both around
- 6:39the same time, like very early in my wrestling fandom.
- 6:41But I think they're unique enough that both can be
- 6:44appreciated. And yeah, incredible workers.
- 6:46And, and really, the bell to bell was not Animal or Hawk's
- 6:52strong suit. And Demolition could really go
- 6:54at that point. I mean, Bill Lady Axe had a
- 6:57entire career, an entire career before demolition.
- 7:05I mean, and and Barry Darso did do a degree as well, but not to
- 7:07the level of Axe. So Axe is a Mongol.
- 7:10I think he was, if I remember correctly, he I don't know if it
- 7:13was Bipo or ghetto. I know Nikolai Volkoff was one
- 7:16of them. The Mongols were A tag team like
- 7:17the 60s seventies. So he had that run and then he
- 7:20had a very good run, a very, very good run as the mass
- 7:26superstar. And he was they he was Bola
- 7:30Mongol. Excuse me, it was the one
- 7:31Mongol. I didn't mention Bola Mongol,
- 7:33but the Mass Superstar had a great run, not just in the WWF
- 7:37but top heel in a lot of different territories.
- 7:39And there's always been that urban legend.
- 7:42I don't know how true it is that when it came time to determine a
- 7:45transition champion to take the title from Bob Backlund to Hulk
- 7:50Hogan in 1984, that the final choices it was it was kind of
- 7:54narrowed down to it's either going to be the iron sheet, who
- 7:56it winds up being obviously, or the Mass Superstar.
- 8:00So Bill 80 factored in pretty heavily even before the
- 8:04Demolition thing, but the Mass Superstar gimmick is running its
- 8:08course. WWF is looking to add a new big
- 8:11heel tag team. So let's let's make our version
- 8:15of the Road Warriors. Let's take this Mad Max thing
- 8:18and make our own version of the Road Warriors.
- 8:20And we're going to call them Demolition.
- 8:21They're going to have the face paint.
- 8:22They're going to have everything we just talked about earlier.
- 8:26And so it's the Mass Superstar Billy, who is going to be Axe
- 8:29and Smash, who is part of another tag team that was around
- 8:33at the time, the Moon Dogs. He was moon dog Spot, I believe.
- 8:36Or no, wait, Moon Dog. I should have looked this up
- 8:39before he came here. Moon Dog Rex.
- 8:41No, he was not Moon Dog Spot. He was Moon Dog Rex.
- 8:45But the problem was while the masked superstar wore a mask,
- 8:51the moon Dog did not. The Moon Dog was out there with
- 8:57his face. So the first few times they show
- 8:59him, the crowd chants Moon Dog, Moon dog, Moon Dog and they're
- 9:04like, well, this isn't working. We got to get a new, we got to
- 9:06get a new smash. And this becomes an issue
- 9:10because Randy Collie, I guess who was the Moon Dog portray,
- 9:16help them kind of formulate some of the gimmick and it became a
- 9:18big legal thing. One of the things that it's
- 9:21constant through the history of demolition is litigation.
- 9:25Unfortunately, a lot of their, their story is called
- 9:28courtrooms. And that's, and I've seen some
- 9:30comments on YouTube and everything and, and a lot of
- 9:32people saying it's, it's, you know, it's a shame took this
- 9:36long to get them in the Hall of Fame.
- 9:37Well, there's a reason why and the reason why, Well, the big
- 9:41reason why is the guy who they don't talk about no more.
- 9:43I used to own the company forever and now he's not around.
- 9:49No, he's, he's definitely not around.
- 9:51Well I'm pretty sure he's not around.
- 9:52Just cause the product bad doesn't mean he's.
- 9:54Bad. I don't buy it.
- 9:55I don't buy it. I think he's still doing it.
- 9:57OK. And so WWF recently brings the
- 10:06had recently brought in Crusher Khrushchev, who was part of a
- 10:11heel tag team or heel trio actually that was feuding quite
- 10:15frequently with the Road Warriors for Jim Crockett
- 10:17Promotions. He was a Russian sympathizer, an
- 10:21American who join forces with the call offs who were well, I
- 10:25was going to say we're who were also American, but Ivan's
- 10:28Canadian And so it was a thing where he's jumping and he's
- 10:33going to become the new smash. And it's funny because if you
- 10:36look at the first year demolition, you just see Barry
- 10:39first year and a half, really, you'll see Barry, Darso Crusher,
- 10:41Khrushchev's hair getting longer and longer and longer and
- 10:44longer. And if you want to go back in
- 10:46the archives of our content, the great thing about the Russians
- 10:50over there is you have Barry Darso and Crusher Krushchev,
- 10:54Smash, whatever you want to call him, and Nikita Koloff, who were
- 10:58both alumni of Robbinsdale High in Robbinsdale, MN.
- 11:04One of the two of the many who all kind of grew up together,
- 11:08grew up in the same neighborhood and wound up teaming together as
- 11:11evil Russians. And then one of them left to
- 11:13become Smash from Demolition. And initially the paint scheme
- 11:17wasn't quite there. And their manager was Johnny
- 11:20Vallian. And it wasn't a perfect fit.
- 11:23And they were just like this heel tag team that was steadily
- 11:27coming up through the ranks from WrestleMania 3 toward
- 11:30WrestleMania 4. But like a lot of things, it
- 11:33just takes a while for everything to come together
- 11:36like, and that's something I know this is I I saw this is
- 11:40something you would actually put out something about today.
- 11:43The girl in Evolve. I forget her name now.
- 11:46I don't know her new WE name but it's Arkademia.
- 11:50Yeah, was her indie. Her indie character, Yeah.
- 11:54Like give people time to find their swing.
- 11:59It takes time. It it it takes time and.
- 12:02Especially in a system where you are being told the character
- 12:06you're going to play and it's not necessarily the one you've
- 12:08chosen and you have to find it. It's just like, like they don't
- 12:12have time to to practice it backstage and then see if it
- 12:15works in front of a crowd. They're finding it week to week
- 12:17to week in front of a crowd. And now on television, where you
- 12:21have even less time to figure things out because you don't
- 12:23have. I mean, they do house shows and
- 12:25stuff like that, but house shows aren't the same.
- 12:27Yeah. The house shows are the same as
- 12:29like, yeah, but like, if you're on the indie scene and you're
- 12:35the shark for 35 years and you're over as the shark, and
- 12:38then you come to WWE and then they turn you into the monkey.
- 12:41Like, you got to relearn how to play the character.
- 12:44And sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
- 12:47The opposite happened for Don Tente.
- 12:48He became the shark and he had to get a tiger tattoo on his on
- 12:52his arm transformed into a shark.
- 12:54Yeah. But that's that's that's a
- 12:57completely different story for a completely different time.
- 12:59So Demolition really starts to round in the form in late 87, in
- 13:05the early 88. And like a lot of cool deals,
- 13:08they're starting to get some some fans that are behind them.
- 13:11And their big crowning moment is going to happen at WrestleMania
- 13:144. Actually just rewatched
- 13:15WrestleMania 4 not that long ago.
- 13:17By this time, John Johnny Vallion has kind of been phased
- 13:20out as a manager and they're now with Mr. Fuji.
- 13:25And that is the classic demolition pairing demolition
- 13:27either with or fighting against Mr. Fuji.
- 13:30That is, that is as demolition as it gets.
- 13:34And their promos are getting better.
- 13:35Axe is not not to discount Smash.
- 13:40Mr. Fuji was never really known for his promos.
- 13:42Axe is just an incredible promo. If you watch some of these.
- 13:45I just got this. I can't do it because my voice
- 13:47my my throat's a little sore, but he's got this gravelly
- 13:49voice. He's talking about kicking your
- 13:51stinking teeth in and we're going to get the belts.
- 13:54And he doesn't say championships.
- 13:55It's not micromanaged like it became.
- 13:57He is just so gruff that you just look at this guy like this
- 14:01guy's a tough guy. This is a guy that like punches
- 14:04the clock and then goes and punches somebody at the bar, you
- 14:07know, three nights a week. And it just translates so well.
- 14:12It just translates so well. And then at WrestleMania 4, they
- 14:17wind up beating Strikeforce for the for the WWF tag team titles.
- 14:20And that kicks off a reign that for a long time, we're talking
- 14:24until the New Day was the longest WWF title reign of all
- 14:29time. That initial reign they had was
- 14:32off the charts. Just they'd had tag teams that
- 14:37were over before, like they had had the US Express.
- 14:40They were very big for a moment. They had the British Bulldogs
- 14:43and they were very, very big for a moment.
- 14:45They all have their moments, but Demolition kind of hit like I
- 14:51don't think anybody else really had up until that point.
- 14:54Yeah. And it gets to the point where
- 14:57by the end of the year, by the end of 1988, it's like, you
- 15:00know, they're getting a little bit too much of a good response.
- 15:03They're getting, they're getting more cheers and boos.
- 15:05Even though they have Fuji, even though they're heels.
- 15:08They put them in in the first Summer Slam with the Heart
- 15:11Foundation, who had just turned babyface.
- 15:13But coming up the card coming again over from Crockett is
- 15:16another tag team, the Powers of Pain, the Warlord, the
- 15:19Barbarian, and they're even more like the Road Warriors and
- 15:22Demolition. And they're coming off of the
- 15:23few with the Road Warriors of Crockett, too.
- 15:26And they're, they're more of the typical WWE version of the
- 15:31muscles on top of muscles. You know, you would, you know,
- 15:34you would allege. Maybe they got some candies from
- 15:37Doctor Zohorian, Who knows. Got them under.
- 15:40Oh, Speaking of the bleachers they took, I heard they took the
- 15:42bleachers out of the Hamburg Field house did.
- 15:44They. I heard.
- 15:46I heard the bleachers. Oh my.
- 15:47Goodness. Oh no.
- 15:48You cannot go. You cannot go behind the
- 15:50bleachers and get your candies anymore.
- 15:52Well. I don't think anybody's got
- 15:54their candies for a while here, but.
- 15:56Who knows? Alas, alas, that moment is gone.
- 15:59You can just go still see Doctors of Horrid and we still
- 16:02as of a few years ago he was still like a practicing
- 16:04urologist. Yeah, urologist.
- 16:05I was going to say a proctologist.
- 16:07Yeah, he's a urologist. Yeah.
- 16:10So they do a run with demolition in the powers of pain, but it's
- 16:16missing something. The, the, the crowd is dictating
- 16:19we, we move things a different way.
- 16:21And so at the second Survivor Series in 1988, thanks.
- 16:26It's still on Thanksgiving night.
- 16:28It hasn't moved to Thanksgiving eve or just some random Saturday
- 16:33and, and, or Thursday and and then December in November, they
- 16:37do the old double turn where Mr. Fuji turns on Demolition helps
- 16:41the powers of pain win the tag team Survivor Series match.
- 16:44And now, now we're really going to go full force and demolition
- 16:47being baby faces, Mr. Fuji, you know, basically tortured us and
- 16:53beat us and, you know, did all these things and now he's doing
- 16:56it to the powers of pain. But we don't need that.
- 16:58We we got the belts. We're the chance.
- 17:01And it really carries off into another big thing at the next
- 17:04WrestleMania, WrestleMania 5 again in Atlantic City at
- 17:06WrestleMania. I'm really sentimental about
- 17:08because this is the this is like the perfect time for me.
- 17:10I'm getting in the wrestling at this point.
- 17:12I'm like 5 years old and I'm just any wrestling I can find.
- 17:15I'm trying to absorb and it's a handicap match.
- 17:19It it might be the I'm trying to think if it's the first handicap
- 17:21match ever at WrestleMania maybe.
- 17:24And it's Mr. Fuji and the powers of pain against Demolition for
- 17:29the tag team title. So it's three on two, but it's
- 17:31also like the most easily telegraphed finish ever where
- 17:35Demolition's going to pin Fuji, Of course they are.
- 17:38But as we've had a through line here, the next step is going to
- 17:44be we've got somebody from Crockett coming in and they're
- 17:48going to they're going to go right after Demolition.
- 17:51But now Demolition are baby faces and the heels are going to
- 17:54be going up against who actually beat Strikeforce at WrestleMania
- 17:575 are the Brain Busters. Now we're moving on the Bobby
- 18:00Heenan and he's got ARN Anderson and Tully Blanchard and
- 18:06Demolition always did well with teams.
- 18:08They they could kind of play against their type.
- 18:10Like they had really good matches with the Rockers, who
- 18:13didn't. They had really good matches
- 18:14with the Hearts who didn't. And they had some great stuff
- 18:17with the Brain Busters too. And that story, the year plus
- 18:21long, almost year and a half tag team title reign comes to an end
- 18:25against the Brain Busters. And before that, it was before
- 18:33that was actually the twin towers.
- 18:34Everybody kind of thought it was going to be boss man of Hakeem
- 18:37that was going to wind up doing that.
- 18:39But that's the brain Busters. They they kind of go back and
- 18:43forth. But the the tricky thing is
- 18:46that. Ric Flair is so someone someone
- 18:50commented, oh, I just messed it all up.
- 18:53They commented my favorite gay couple, which didn't offend me,
- 18:57right? And then this guy came in with a
- 19:01Dallas Cowboys thing and that's that's bad.
- 19:04Now I'm upset we cannot listen. You can ask me who the bottom
- 19:09is, but don't you dare come up here with Dallas Cowboy shit,
- 19:12you know what I'm saying? We won't stand for that.
- 19:16No, absolutely not. Absolutely not.
- 19:19Despicable. Despicable.
- 19:21Disgusting. Go ahead, fucked.
- 19:29So the the Brain Busters things kind of just short circuited
- 19:34because Arne and Tully are leaving.
- 19:36Arne and Tully are leaving. They're going back to to Jim Cox
- 19:39promotions. There's recently been a sale
- 19:42after they leave, Turner buys WCW or Turner buys Jim Crockett
- 19:46promotions. And now a lot of the money
- 19:49issues that inspired a lot of people to leave in 1988 are no
- 19:54longer are no longer an issue are no longer a problem.
- 20:00And and it actually turns out to be you can do an entire side
- 20:04thing about this because Tully Blanchard right at the end of
- 20:06his this run, WWF fails a drug test.
- 20:10In fact, the the Brain Busters there last night, they'd already
- 20:13lost the titles back to demolitions demolition the the
- 20:19last night they were supposed to be in the company was going to
- 20:22be the 89 Survivor Series was the Rockers, I think Warrior
- 20:25and. Maybe Snuka against Rude or no
- 20:29Roddy Piper against Rude Heenan. I'm I'm forgetting the teams my
- 20:36I'm getting old, I'm getting old.
- 20:37I don't have the retention I used to have if.
- 20:39It was a Mania though, you'd remember every match.
- 20:41I'm losing, I'm losing my, I'm losing my step here a little
- 20:44bit, but. This is why you hold the screen
- 20:45won't play anymore. Yes, I'm retired now.
- 20:48I, I, I got, I got to get back into it.
- 20:51I got to I got to get back into the game or I'm going to, I'm
- 20:54going to lose it. But now the thing I remember
- 20:57that match for the most is Bobby Heenan pins Marty Ginetti, which
- 21:00is really weird. Like Heenan pins Ginetti, which
- 21:03is I for a while I thought he pinned Michaels, which had been
- 21:06hilarious because of Michael's been one of the biggest stars in
- 21:08history of wrestling. But no, he pins Marty.
- 21:11And shortly after this he kind of keep the thing with
- 21:13Demolition and Heenan going. But now Demolition loses the tag
- 21:16titles to Haku and Andre the Giant.
- 21:19Do you want to? Do you want?
- 21:21To play along. Oh this is a hard one because
- 21:25there's only one singles match on that card and it's like a TNA
- 21:32match where they think the Cat and Terry runnels if I'm not
- 21:34mistaken. OK, so a lot of multi I.
- 21:39Guess I could probably get most of the card.
- 21:41I can probably get most of that card.
- 21:42Because I'll see. I'll check you out.
- 21:45Here come the parlor tricks. Because he had two tag team
- 21:48matches. I remember who's in one.
- 21:49I don't remember I it's kind of you got a trans.
- 21:52I might have a transpose on who's in what match, but I
- 21:57believe in the one match you had Val Venus and the Godfather
- 22:02against the big boss man in Bull Buchanan.
- 22:03I believe that was one of those three team matches that made in
- 22:05the opener. That's that's I'm.
- 22:07Wrong 16. WrestleMania 2000 is what it
- 22:09was. WrestleMania 15 would be easier
- 22:13because I was there. That would be a little bit easy.
- 22:15For WrestleMania 2000, you got Hold on, let me, let me get into
- 22:19the card. Was I right about that big boss
- 22:24man? We'll be counting against The
- 22:25Godfather and Val Venus. I'm getting there.
- 22:31Hold on, I can't Wikipedia you got rid of.
- 22:33Like remember how you used to have the card you just scrolled
- 22:35to the bottom? The card would be there.
- 22:38Yeah. This is the A McMahon in every
- 22:46corner WrestleMania. Oh my God.
- 22:49It's also the great video game. It's also the first WrestleMania
- 22:53where a heel leaves as the world champion.
- 22:58And guess who it is? All.
- 23:05Right, so you got who and who? I thought, and I could be wrong,
- 23:10I thought it was the big boss man in Bull Buchanan against The
- 23:14Godfather and Val Venus, but I could be wrong about that.
- 23:22You're right, that is the yeah, that's the first match.
- 23:24They got father involved. Val Venus, right?
- 23:29There's a DLO Brown. DLO Brown.
- 23:31It's DLO. OK, Yep, it's OK yeah 'cause
- 23:36then you have test and Albert against head Cheese, Al Snow and
- 23:39Steve Blackman. You got it.
- 23:41You have the hard. I don't know who's all in that
- 23:43hardcore match 'cause they have like a hardcore like scramble
- 23:46match, like 80 guys in it. I don't remember every single
- 23:49person was in that thing. You have, you actually had two
- 23:53matches between. You had two matches between
- 24:00somebody who we won't name. No one, literally no one.
- 24:03Chris Jericho and Kurt Angle. I, I want to say, 'cause Kern
- 24:08and Echo came in with both titles.
- 24:09He was the European champion and the Intercontinental Champion,
- 24:11and then he lost both of them. I think he lost.
- 24:13If I remember correctly he lost the European title to Jericho
- 24:17and the the you're. Missing.
- 24:20You're missing 10. No, that's not.
- 24:22Going to be 3. Way tag three-way there was a
- 24:24three. Way.
- 24:25Oh yeah, the the Hardy's Dudley's an edge and Christian,
- 24:27it was a ladder match. I didn't see that one on it.
- 24:35Oh yeah, yeah. But there's another three-way
- 24:36match. I mean Trio's match.
- 24:40There's a million of them. Like literally there's only
- 24:42one-on-one match. It was the cat and I believe
- 24:44Terry. And Terry?
- 24:45Yeah, with special guest referee Val Venus.
- 24:48Oh, that's what that's what they did with that awful transom.
- 24:51So Oh yeah, the radicals against.
- 24:55So that would have been Guerrero, Malenko and Perry
- 24:58Saturn against Rikishi, Scotty and China I believe.
- 25:04No grandmaster, Scotty and China.
- 25:06No rikishi. Oh, too cool in China?
- 25:08Yep. Too cool in China.
- 25:09OK, Rikishi. 'S in a match later.
- 25:13Yeah, this is this is 1 where I don't have the entire card.
- 25:17Kane and Rikishi take on Xbox and Road Dog.
- 25:21OK, there we go, the main event. The main event is the McMahon in
- 25:27Every corner, Foley, Big Show, Rock and Triple H.
- 25:31Yeah, Mick Foley with Linda is funny to think about today.
- 25:34Well. The story back then?
- 25:36So this is at the end of Mick Foley's run as a full time
- 25:39wrestler and he had just made Triple H Mick Foley had just
- 25:46spent the last two months making Triple H.
- 25:49The street fight at the Royal Rumble.
- 25:51They did a hell in a cell. It was like title versus career
- 25:54and Foley loses, so he's got to retire.
- 25:56And I guess he minute thing, this was like a, this wasn't a,
- 26:01you know, intricately planned out thing.
- 26:02You're like, you know, we want to do a four way instead of a
- 26:04three-way. So we're going to have Linda
- 26:07McMahon as the CEO of the WWF reinstate you for one match.
- 26:11They even they even did the whole thing was like, well, if
- 26:13Mick wins, he has to retire. So if he wins the title, there's
- 26:16he's going to vacate it immediately and there's going to
- 26:18be a tournament like Triple H is winning this thing.
- 26:20Triple H has a lot of stroke right now and he's going to
- 26:23wield it and he's going to be the first heel to win the main
- 26:25event of WrestleMania. Yeah, that's 22,000.
- 26:30That was not one that is very good or I think I probably only
- 26:34watched it when it happened. We'll.
- 26:36We're just stretching out our ability that it's not a podcast
- 26:39format. We can get a little loose here,
- 26:40but let's get back to demolition.
- 26:43Demolition. Let's go back to 1989, I believe
- 26:47was where we were at. They had just turned baby.
- 26:49Oh yeah, they were feuding with the Colossal Connection, which
- 26:52goes in the WrestleMania 6 and they win their third tag titles,
- 26:56which I think may have been a record at that point.
- 26:58Maybe off on seeking one of them three times.
- 27:00I'm not 100% on that, but they win their third wins against
- 27:03Taku and Andre at WrestleMania 6.
- 27:05It's like the last big match Andre has where?
- 27:12It's the last. Big match Andre has where even
- 27:13turns babyface at the end and slaps he in and around.
- 27:16But he was his. His body was just breaking down
- 27:18at that point. And I think where you left the
- 27:20little. Shows.
- 27:21Here just failed the drug test. Oh yeah, Tully.
- 27:24Yeah, Tully failed a drug test, so they had to get the well.
- 27:27The brain Busters are leaving, but Tully fails a drug test.
- 27:30And So what happens is now over at Jim Crock, not Jim Crock
- 27:36pushes anymore WCW. They're like, well, we want ARN,
- 27:40but we don't want Tully. He just failed a drug test.
- 27:42So ARN winds up becoming the well.
- 27:46ARN and Tully become the big losers here because Tully's not
- 27:48getting anything 'cause they don't want him now.
- 27:50And Aaron, it's like, well, Aaron, we, we thought you had
- 27:52value as A tag wrestler at this price, but now it's just going
- 27:55to be you and not you. And Polly, you can, we still
- 27:58want you to come over, but we're going to cut that offer by like
- 28:0340%. So yeah, Aaron wound up having
- 28:07to agree to a big pay cut to to come back because I think the I
- 28:13think. By that.
- 28:15Point I was like, no, we don't want you.
- 28:16We don't want you as a single, you know, tell you failed a drug
- 28:18test. Get out of here go go to go to
- 28:22Atlanta. So yeah, Arne kind of is the is
- 28:27a big losing that because the whole big plan was to reunite
- 28:29the four horsemen and kicks like and they do, but Sting's part of
- 28:34it and they kick Sting out and then they bring Sid in as part
- 28:36of the horsemen and Barry Windham and always like their
- 28:37manager. And it it it winds up kind of
- 28:41becoming a little bit of a mess because Sting blows his knee
- 28:44out, climb in a cage and whole other story for a whole other
- 28:47time. But yeah, so Arne and Tully,
- 28:49you're out of the picture. And at this point now Haku and
- 28:51Andre are out of the picture because Demolition has won the
- 28:55titles back and WrestleMania 6th.
- 28:56But guess who's coming into the picture?
- 28:59The road was honking Animal mid 1990s.
- 29:04They signed. So the match everybody's always
- 29:07wanted. It's it, it was the tag team
- 29:10version of like Austin and Goldberg in the 90s.
- 29:13Or I'm trying to think of what it could have been.
- 29:15There's no like modern equivalent because, and you know
- 29:17what the best part about this? Is BP, It's pro wrestling it.
- 29:21There's no egos involved. These two teams are going to get
- 29:24together and just work magic. Yeah, pretty.
- 29:29Much. I mean, I I really you don't
- 29:31think one of them? Was like that doesn't work for
- 29:33me brother. No, I think I.
- 29:35I think Axe and Smash were smart enough to know they're coming
- 29:38and they're getting put over. They're the road warriors.
- 29:41First of all, the road wars just didn't put people over like
- 29:43they, they would have slipped on a banana peel and lose coming
- 29:45out the door, but that was about it.
- 29:47The road warriors weren't. And and they're, they're the new
- 29:50ones. Demolition's been around now for
- 29:52about four years, and four years is a long time back then.
- 29:56It's not like now where, you know, everybody stays everywhere
- 29:58forever. Four years back then, like Rick
- 30:02Rude. Rick Rude.
- 30:03Rick Rude's WWF run has still talked about.
- 30:05He was there for 3 1/2 years. Yeah, he wasn't there for a long
- 30:09time. And isn't crazy long, is it?
- 30:13Who's? Like Stone Cold when?
- 30:15He like it's like 5 years right? Yeah, I mean, yeah, 9096 and by
- 30:21like 2003, he's his neck's broken, but his runner's like
- 30:26the top guy. His runner's the man.
- 30:27His runner's like the the guy carrying the company was like 98
- 30:31to by 2001. It's him in the rock 'cause he's
- 30:34hurt. But even by 99 as.
- 30:38He's heard he's got he's out for a year with neck surgery.
- 30:40Yeah, his his run was, you know, because of his injuries, very
- 30:43brief. It's.
- 30:45Really. From Yeah Mania. 14 to 19 is is
- 30:47like 13 to 19. That six year window is really
- 30:51Steve Austin and and six years might feel like a lot, but.
- 30:55Like 6 years ago it was. Pandemic wrestling like 6 years
- 30:58isn't that long of long of time and Roman's been Roman's been
- 31:00the. Guy the whole time, I think
- 31:02Roman, well, Roman's been the guy.
- 31:03For like 12 years now at this point.
- 31:05Jesus, yeah. And I still don't think he'll
- 31:08he's over as a four year Austin run no well.
- 31:14You're in rarefied air there. There's only been so many people
- 31:17who have been that for like they're unforcing moment.
- 31:22Of time the. Only guy that can hang with
- 31:23Austin is Hogan. Yeah, like they're they're.
- 31:25Forcing essentially Roman down our neck and Roman's been the
- 31:28top guy, been the main eventing more than almost any would like.
- 31:31Roman is like they're trying to make Roman Hogan and I don't
- 31:35think he has the star power of those guys.
- 31:38And I like if in rose colored glasses of looking at wrestling
- 31:43in a landscape and if you're AWE fan, you're like, well, that's
- 31:45crazy. Roman's the top guy, but it's
- 31:47just like I feel like from someone who's been watching it
- 31:49for more decades. It's like he is, but like, is he
- 31:52like does it feel like that to you?
- 31:54Like it doesn't to me like I'm like happy he's there, but I
- 31:56always I don't I don't I don't see him as like a John Cena.
- 31:59I don't see him as a rock. I don't see him as a an Austin.
- 32:02Like, I don't know, he. It it's a different world now
- 32:07and the WWE brand is what sells. And yes, there are people who
- 32:13are going to. Be needle.
- 32:17Movers when it comes to TV ratings to ticket sales and
- 32:20things like that and I mean it's cooling off now because their
- 32:25creative is when their creative is suffering at the moment and
- 32:28it's they they've priced a lot of people out of their their
- 32:32events and they've made it harder to follow the product
- 32:34because you have to go to Netflix for this and to be for
- 32:37this and I I think I think the only thing you can watch NXT on
- 32:43is a jump. Well, actually NXT is the most
- 32:45successful it's on network TV since that joke kind of doesn't
- 32:47really fit, but it it it they've made it more of a chore with to
- 32:52watch their product, which is not good.
- 32:56So, but a lot of that time Rome was on top, especially that
- 33:01tribal chief run. That was the big dog run.
- 33:03The the that part that we're going to make him the the
- 33:08babyface Hogan model. That was when it really was
- 33:12feeling inorganic and it's being pushed down our throats.
- 33:15But I think when he came back, there's that that whole tribal
- 33:17chief arc. That was really when but you're
- 33:21coming out of the pandemic, which helps because people are
- 33:23so starved for live wrestling. And I think that helped their
- 33:26that helped their brand profile a lot.
- 33:27But it's also. Like they just got hot.
- 33:31They, they, you can't, you can't deny like from I was from like
- 33:38WrestleMania 37 to 41 to last year, that five year window,
- 33:43they were pretty on fire. They were, they were doing
- 33:46really well. And now you're starting to see,
- 33:49you know, things ebb and flow, things go up and down and now
- 33:51they're kind of down swinging again.
- 33:53And here comes Oba Femi starting to maybe change that 'cause that
- 33:57guy has star power. Guy has *.
- 34:00Power, but I don't believe W is going to run with it.
- 34:03Probably it's going to take time.
- 34:04They're not going. To do it overnight, but we'll
- 34:07see what we'll see what Brock. Does this week he he is?
- 34:10You think Brock's gonna do the job well, but maybe, maybe not.
- 34:16But I'll, I'll, I also think Oba Femi is done for.
- 34:18If he doesn't, you read? I it's just I people tend to
- 34:25overreact to stuff like that. And it's not the end of the
- 34:27world if Brock wins. I would like to if I would like
- 34:30to think if Brock wins that Oba will get it back.
- 34:33But who knows how long Brock's gonna be there.
- 34:35Who knows? That doesn't work for me,
- 34:36brother. No, no, no.
- 34:38That's. Not gonna happen.
- 34:39Brock's getting ready to retire. Look, as long as you pay Brock
- 34:42Lesnar, that's all Brock Lesnar cares about.
- 34:43Do you think? Do you think he wins a.
- 34:45Mania. He wins a mania and.
- 34:47Then he and and and he's oboe gets it back at Survivor Series
- 34:52in his hometown or SummerSlam in Minnesota in Brock's hometown.
- 34:56Look at. That isn't Brock's final.
- 34:59Match. I think Brock's wrapping.
- 35:01Up at at in Summer Slam, right? That's the rumor.
- 35:06People seem to think they're going to continue the Gunther
- 35:08thing and have Gunther retire him too.
- 35:10I hate that. But there's things in.
- 35:13Between maybe not money in the Bank, but some of these clash in
- 35:16wherever they're doing clashes, clash in Rome, clash in Paris,
- 35:20whatever it might be. There, there's plenty of runway.
- 35:23There's runway to but you know, that's that's not what sells.
- 35:27That's not that overreactionary of if Brock Lesnar beats old
- 35:31Buffemi, WWE is doomed. Like that's that's how people
- 35:34think it's it's not that it's not that serious.
- 35:37No, that's the least possible. I think the.
- 35:39I think there's one thing they can do this weekend that would
- 35:41doom their company. One thing and I don't even know.
- 35:44If it would doom. Them company, I I still think
- 35:46half their fan base would accept it and be fine with it.
- 35:49If Vince walks, if Vince walks back to the door, I think that
- 35:53would be a a big nail in the coffin for a lot of people.
- 35:56That would be that would be. Tough from APR standpoint for
- 35:58sure. That would be very tough, ruling
- 36:00it out that it's. Going to happen.
- 36:04I'd be surprised. I I.
- 36:05Would be quite surprised. Especially with all these.
- 36:10Texts that were leaked and. I think I I don't.
- 36:15Think it would be positioning Triple H as the genius of
- 36:20wrestling. Eddie Grammar incarnated.
- 36:24What's that? I said.
- 36:25Triple H was. Sweating in those I didn't catch
- 36:27that it clipped out for a. Second, I said triple.
- 36:30H was sweating in those text messages.
- 36:32Wait, what's happening Please? Can you please call me?
- 36:35Could you please? Text me like what's happening?
- 36:37Call me, call me right now trip. Leave me the fuck alone I'm
- 36:40trying to work. Those texts were a.
- 36:45Trip. Although that that was.
- 36:50Five star S kissing by Triple H on Nick Con Five stars.
- 36:54Beautiful beautiful textbook. Brown nosing textbook.
- 36:59It doesn't get any better than that real quick before.
- 37:02We get it's going to make a big nose joke, but that's not nice.
- 37:05Yeah, Lod. Back to demolition.
- 37:06Real quick, I want to show you something off before.
- 37:09Make sure I'm not showing off the address.
- 37:10So I subscribed to a wrestling. Company.
- 37:13It's Patreon page and when you subscribe only 20.
- 37:17Some people are allowed to subscribe to this tier for 30
- 37:20bucks and they send you event posters assigned by everyone on
- 37:24the card. I am now a mystery wrestling.
- 37:29Subscribee. Very cool mystery wrestling.
- 37:32'S a lot of fun, yeah. So I got my mystery wrestling.
- 37:37Autographs go back. That's cool.
- 37:40That's I got two of them. 22 and 20.
- 37:42Three. Right on.
- 37:45Yeah, pretty exciting. Very fun stuff, Very fun.
- 37:47Stuff I I love it. It's so cool if.
- 37:49You're going to if you're going to have go.
- 37:53Ahead, if you're going to do comedy wrestling, commit to the
- 37:55bit and be funny and and they do both.
- 37:57So that's yeah, that's that's that's something I I really have
- 38:01a an affinity forest mystery wrestling.
- 38:04They just, they just do some real fun stuff there, some real
- 38:06fun stuff. But we're going back to. 1990
- 38:10now because where we left off in our demolition story and
- 38:13demolition and the Road warriors are there, but there's a problem
- 38:17demolition or baby faces. And the Road Warriors, they want
- 38:21to they want them to come in as baby faces, they want them to
- 38:23sell foam shoulder pads. They want to do all this other
- 38:26stuff. So we got to turn demolition
- 38:29back heel. So they joined forces with Mr.
- 38:32Fuji again and we've got another issue.
- 38:36We've got another issue going on with demolition and that's the
- 38:39fact that Acts Bill Edie thought he was having some serious
- 38:43health problems. I think it might have been a
- 38:44heart thing. I'm not sure exactly what they
- 38:46thought was going on. It turned out he had an option
- 38:49to shellfish, but it looked like it was something more serious
- 38:54and Axe was going to have to retire.
- 38:55So that's why I don't want the Samoans.
- 38:57Right. That's why, that's why the
- 38:58Samoans had a change. Samu Samu ate belt shellfish.
- 39:01So they they ate. Some bad fish and they had they
- 39:04had a little bit of that. That was when Rikishi left and
- 39:07Fatou left and Barbarian came back as Headshrinker Sione.
- 39:12I thought Samu I was, and that's.
- 39:13What it was, Yeah. I thought Sam, Oh, I think
- 39:14Rikishi was still there. But it was Rikishi.
- 39:16And you know what I think? I think you're right.
- 39:19I think you got. That's what got Samu at of
- 39:21Wrestling. He ate bad shellfish.
- 39:25Real quick. So one of my listeners, I don't
- 39:28know if they're here in the live stream or not, but they're from
- 39:30Oregon and they've they've they've they've been sending me
- 39:33cool beers from Oregon and they actually got me a beer glass,
- 39:36which is actually 22 of 48 beer glass from popglass.com.
- 39:42Or you can follow them at pop glass, under score, IG 2 or
- 39:46facebook.com groups. Pop glass.
- 39:49But this is my brand new ECW glass.
- 39:53Oh, there's Rob Van Damme. Salait Sabu Sandman with a beer
- 40:01Sandman Shocking Tommy Dreamer I have worked or.
- 40:05Met every single person on this glass.
- 40:08Yeah, you've worked like. You've wrestled them.
- 40:10Yeah, I, I I worked with them. Worked worked with them.
- 40:14In in some capacity in the business.
- 40:16Actually, no, I never worked with RVDI went to, I went to a
- 40:19show at PPW where RVD was on. Yeah, he was at the impact.
- 40:23Show, yeah. That that's where I first got my
- 40:26first, actually my first. Name retweet me him and.
- 40:29Katie Forbes retweeted me when I said RVD versus Rhino in and PPW
- 40:37and two ECW legends and I have not seen one second in the match
- 40:41cause Katie Forbes is ringside. I actually.
- 40:47I I didn't. Meet.
- 40:48Van Damme. But Van Damme like was at this
- 40:50thing I went to two years ago when WrestleMania was in Philly.
- 40:56They did some like thing. At the casino right there, it
- 40:59was like a trivia game and I won like this or it's certainly live
- 41:03Cup that I had to throw away because I couldn't take it into
- 41:05the stadium. So I won and then it said to
- 41:07immediate I was going to hide it behind in a Bush or something.
- 41:09I I was like, I'm just going to try to see if they let me in.
- 41:11It's it's empty. But now I guess they're afraid
- 41:13you're going to like throw it at somebody because it's Philly.
- 41:15Yeah, the. Sandman and and and Sabu I don't
- 41:21think I can get away from for like 2 years because I was
- 41:23working so many conventions and shows and they were at like all
- 41:25of them. I were and I was at 2.
- 41:30Yeah. All right, let's get into it.
- 41:31I just poured a a Genesee into a beard glass by the way, which I
- 41:34think is hilarious. There you go in upstate.
- 41:37New York dreamers of New York but the next moment in in
- 41:44Demolition's trajectory is actually in Philadelphia.
- 41:46So the spectrum wrestle the summer slam 1990.
- 41:50It's it's very infamous because a lot of people in Philadelphia
- 41:53that weren't at the show didn't get a chance to see it because
- 41:56the power went out. So if you order them on
- 41:57pay-per-view, you were out of luck for a good part of the city
- 42:00because there's a power outage. And the the I almost said the
- 42:06demolition like I'm Brett Hart. The demolition, the demolition.
- 42:10But the but. Demolition are taking all the
- 42:12Hart Foundation at WrestleMania or or SummerSlam 90 and it's a
- 42:17two out of three falls match. And if I'm not mistaken, I think
- 42:20Demolition was able to like kind of switch through it a little
- 42:22bit, but with the help of the Legion of Doom, not call the
- 42:27Road Warriors, just Legion of Doom.
- 42:29Demolition loses the tag titles to the Heart Foundation, which
- 42:31is a really smart move because they they understood that Demo
- 42:36or the Demolition Legion of Doom matches did not need the tag
- 42:39titles. They didn't need the tag titles.
- 42:43So you can put the tag titles on the hearts.
- 42:45And so this was back in the day for for most of the 80s,
- 42:49nineties and even beyond, they did AB shows.
- 42:53In fact, they they stopped doing it when business got really bad.
- 42:55Like 95 nineties, like 9495, they went down The One Show at
- 42:59night. But in the 80s, like at their
- 43:01peak, they were running three shows.
- 43:02You would have like a show in Philly with your A crew.
- 43:05You would have a show in Allentown with your B crew and
- 43:08you would have a show at the CYC high school gym in Scranton with
- 43:12your C crew. And the main event was like Sam
- 43:16Houston against the Duke of Dorchester, Pete Doherty or
- 43:20something. That's.
- 43:22How deep sea crew went, Yeah. No, the main event would
- 43:26probably be like a mid card guy. It would be.
- 43:29I would love to find a. Card a sea show card like what
- 43:32was a a sea show around like? You can look up a lot of those,
- 43:35like shows in Scranton or places like that.
- 43:40Then by the time. Raw, like WW ES in their real
- 43:43doldrums in the mid 90s. They're doing like Raw and
- 43:46Danville at a high school. Yeah, I'm.
- 43:49Surprised there was never. A raw at Martz Hall, that's how
- 43:51bad it got after a while they Martz Hall would.
- 43:54Be a great venue, but they will not let anybody else in unless
- 43:57they don't they don't let you mess up the.
- 43:58Floor, yeah, the floor. The floor is sacred.
- 44:00The floor is sacred in a lot of these high school gyms, So what
- 44:06they actually wind up doing with a lot of these matches, and it's
- 44:10weird because Warriors are champion too, but doesn't really
- 44:12have a big challenger. It's Demolition, Axe Smash and
- 44:17Crush against Lod and The Ultimate Warrior.
- 44:20They did that a lot. I could even do that on Saturday
- 44:21Night's Main event at one point. And that feud goes for most of
- 44:26the rest of 1990. Again, in 1990, it's a house
- 44:29show business. So that's the main event of your
- 44:31A Show Legion of Doom and Warrior Against Demolition and
- 44:36demolition and and and or demolition.
- 44:38Just demolition, axe smash and crush.
- 44:40Were you a crush guy? After he left him Demolition,
- 44:43yes. I liked him too.
- 44:46I was a crush I really liked. Crush in like 1992 when he had
- 44:50like the purple and yellow and he would bring pineapples in his
- 44:53hand. I loved crush crush.
- 44:56I was a crush guy. There's only one Crush match I
- 44:58didn't like, and he's against our favorite wrestler.
- 45:01We. Don't have the same WrestleMania
- 45:0410. Oh, ready, Savage.
- 45:07Yeah, well, that, that was Crush that.
- 45:09Was that was the worst false? Con Anywhere match ever.
- 45:12Because when you said favorite wrestler, I thought you were
- 45:14going to talk about Crush and Shawn Michaels at King of the
- 45:17Ring 93, which was not good either.
- 45:20Not good either. Yeah.
- 45:22Crush was really good like when he worked other mid cars when he
- 45:24got to the top of the car. Rather, Crush was good in a
- 45:25squash match. Crush was good beating.
- 45:28Speaking of demolition beating Repo Man at SummerSlam 92,
- 45:33That's hilarious too. Like that he.
- 45:34Fought his old teammate. So a little bit of a wink, wink,
- 45:37nod. Nod because they never
- 45:38acknowledged repo man with smash ever ever ever ever ever ever
- 45:41same tattoos. Isn't smash also like?
- 45:44Not smash repo man. Isn't that like a character that
- 45:46like transitioned to other people?
- 45:48Like didn't other? No, there was only one repo.
- 45:50Man. Well, actually they're they're,
- 45:52they're doing a gimmick with that now.
- 45:53I forget who it is. I forg, I forget who it is, but
- 45:57somebody this weekend, I think at WrestleMania or somewhere.
- 46:00Oh, it's Simon Miller from the UK.
- 46:02That's right, Simon. Yeah.
- 46:03He he's doing a thing where. He's wrestling Barry Darso for
- 46:06the rights to the Repo Man gimmick I want the character to.
- 46:10Stay alive. I think there's certain
- 46:11characters that people can pass it on to and they so.
- 46:14There was a joke. This may be what you're thinking
- 46:17about. There was a joke in Ring of
- 46:18Honor around like 2008, 2009, I forget when exactly, but Adam
- 46:22Pierce, Adam Pierce, the Adam Pierce the the general manager
- 46:25of RAW like because he's bald and, you know, has a similar
- 46:29build, I guess to Barry Darso. People would chant repo man Adam
- 46:32and there were one or two times he would like pull out a domino
- 46:35mask and put it on and act like repo man for a little bit and
- 46:38people do nuts. But no he.
- 46:39Was never repo. Man, like they never managed to
- 46:41be a character that stays. Alive, it wasn't like doing for
- 46:44their. Like a bunch of repo man, but
- 46:48who's the current? Who's the duink?
- 46:49That like rocks it. Right now there is no I don't.
- 46:52Know if there's a whole lot of duinks anymore?
- 46:53Not like, actively. Wrestling, But he does all the
- 46:55conventions. Rey.
- 46:57Apollo. Matt Borio, He's fucking.
- 47:00Terrifying as duink he is, he's scarier than.
- 47:04Scary Duink was supposed to be. Well, it's funny.
- 47:07Because he wasn't the scary Duink, he was the babyface duink
- 47:09he is now if you meet. Duink at No, you tell me he's
- 47:12not. Fucking he's because.
- 47:13He's miserable. He just stares.
- 47:14You like this? I remember him in Hamburg.
- 47:19I was. Like Dong's going to kill
- 47:20somebody. It's funny.
- 47:23Two years ago I went to the when I was down for mania.
- 47:26I went to the clusterfuck after night one of mania and Dink was
- 47:30supposed to be in the clusterfuck, but apparently from
- 47:33what I what I found out later was so it was like because that
- 47:36thing didn't even start until well after midnight.
- 47:39Like I went to night one of mania and I wound up getting
- 47:42from again. You might I don't drive I I but
- 47:46it's Philly, so you can get around.
- 47:47I got from Lincoln Financial Field to Penn's landing caterers
- 47:50where they were doing the collective and I still had to
- 47:54wait for a while to Yeah. So actually I did describe to
- 47:57thrill this weekend. There's a.
- 47:58Lot of good GC like the geppies. Gate brunch is really good this
- 48:01weekend. Spring Break has a really.
- 48:04Nice card. Spring Break has a really nice
- 48:05card. Janella versus Brodie Lee.
- 48:06Junior yeah, Janella versus Brodie Lee.
- 48:08Junior and the Salmons last match.
- 48:10He's wrestling the Invisible Man, which is safe.
- 48:13Probably safer. Than the Sandman match, Yeah, I
- 48:15mean this Naboo match, Yeah, the interesting one.
- 48:18Is I know they're doing Effie and ally catch loser leaves GCWI
- 48:24think can I? Speculate.
- 48:26I thought a. Lot of people think Ally Catch
- 48:28is getting WWIDI, think she is too either.
- 48:30Not IDD or she'll she'll go to like Evolve or she'll go to
- 48:34that's where mostly ID kids are. NXT Possibly, yeah 'cause I
- 48:39think Ali. Ali's been taking a lot of
- 48:41photos lately with Ricky Starks or Saints whenever he goes by
- 48:45now. Yeah, it's always going to.
- 48:47Be Ricky Starks. Today, I love that for Ali, she
- 48:49came. Back a horrible injury and now
- 48:51gets ID. If that's the case, going to win
- 48:52the title at night too. Yeah.
- 48:55But no, they they, they always. They always have fun stuff at
- 48:58the collective. I think they're calling this one
- 49:00the Immortal Clusterfuck. But yeah, I guess what happened
- 49:02was it, it was so late. Like I, I, I think, I think we
- 49:06left that building at like 3:30 in the morning.
- 49:10Like that's when the clusterfuck was over.
- 49:14And. Because there was a match before
- 49:15there was a Punjabi prison match.
- 49:17Before that, they bled all over. The place, well, no, the one guy
- 49:21it. It wasn't from the prison, it
- 49:22was the one one of the Bollywood boys, one of the Shira brothers.
- 49:25His face exploded like I he he took something from I think
- 49:29Zilla Fatu or maybe Juicy finale because Jacob was supposed to be
- 49:32in that match, but they pulled him because he was getting
- 49:34signed. Yeah, but one of the one of the
- 49:36IT was either Juicy or or or Zilla like caught him with
- 49:39something and his face just exploded like.
- 49:42And apparently the doctor there was not like a super super,
- 49:45super like experienced wrestling doctor and was just freaking out
- 49:51like that was the venue that I. Mentioned Ran and they hooked
- 49:54up. They hooked up GCW with it.
- 49:56GCW killed the venue. I don't think they're allowed to
- 49:58run in wrestling show. Is there any more stapled all
- 49:59over the place? Well, that.
- 50:03And they had A and they had a. They had the locker room.
- 50:06Outside, because that whole plate, that whole like when the
- 50:10high tension was there, they had that partition and that main
- 50:12lobby area was the locker room. But the main lobby was like
- 50:15merchant stuff. The locker room was outside,
- 50:17like people were getting dressed in a trailer.
- 50:20But that that that cluster felt Dink was supposed to be in it.
- 50:24Tiger Jackson. Well, everything was supposed to
- 50:25be Dink the little clown. And I guess that his handler was
- 50:29like, yeah, you know, he's, he's 68 and it's 2:00 in the morning.
- 50:33He went to, he went to sleep. So you're thinking that they
- 50:37should just put? Microman in the paint.
- 50:40Well. Meekroman won that cluster fuck.
- 50:42Oh, that's right. That's right, Dink.
- 50:44Versus micro man came down with him and Nick Gage and.
- 50:45Microman won. Yeah, it would.
- 50:47Have been dink versus it came down there microman.
- 50:50Nick Gage and Yoshihiko were the final three.
- 50:54And Nick Gage. Like, everybody's selling for
- 50:56Yoshihiko. Nick Gage just grabs them, grabs
- 50:58the doll and throws it out of the ring.
- 50:59Like I'm not selling for that thing.
- 51:01And then it comes down to Gage and meek Roman and meek Roman
- 51:04wins. How about Nick Gage work in the?
- 51:05Sanctuary soon, yeah. Yeah, Well.
- 51:08As long as he's doing well, as long as Nick's doing, yeah, I'm,
- 51:12I'm rooting. For I'm rooting for Nick.
- 51:13I hope he does well All right let's get into.
- 51:15Let's let's wrap up demolition here Yeah.
- 51:18And we're getting toward the end of.
- 51:19Demolition because after the Legion of Doom thing.
- 51:23In fact, that Survivor Series in 1990 is the end of Acts.
- 51:28In fact, they always say like, why was his hair so nice?
- 51:31Because he's always put the stuff in his hair to, like, tamp
- 51:33it down. And he didn't this time because
- 51:35he knew he was on his way out. He knew he was done.
- 51:38And. So.
- 51:39After after Survivor Series where the Warrior, Texas Tornado
- 51:43and the Legion of Doom beat Demolition Mr. Perfect warriors,
- 51:48the the sole survivor axe departs and then smash and
- 51:53crush. Hang on for a little bit.
- 51:54Their last big match is WrestleMania 7 and the Mighty
- 51:58have fallen at this point where they actually lose to Genichiro
- 52:01Tenru and Koji Katal. And that was kind of an olive
- 52:05branch because WWF was working a lot with WAR, which was Tenru's
- 52:11promotion or SWS. At that point.
- 52:12WAR wasn't a thing yet. SWS was Tenru's promotion like
- 52:16Hogan wrestle Tenru in Japan and there was a lot of back and
- 52:18forth and they got. Keep going, I'm just pulling up
- 52:23comments. They'll be a magnificent.
- 52:27They got the bone thrown. At them where the 10 room Catal
- 52:31could win and then Catal wound up trying to shoot on Earthquake
- 52:34in a match in Japan. Yeah.
- 52:37And that became. Like the whole thing and see
- 52:38people like wrestling. History.
- 52:40They're into this. Kozi Catal also fought in one.
- 52:43Of the early UFC using he just got knocked out like 20 seconds.
- 52:48He was known as just a nobody like Kozi Catal, nobody like
- 52:52Kozi Catal. But after that, After that?
- 52:56After that wrestle when he. Sevens set up demolition kind of
- 53:00fades out. Crush goes away for a little
- 53:02bit. He goes to Oregon, works there
- 53:04for a little bit. Smash goes away for a little
- 53:06bit, comes back as repo man. By 1992 they're firmly
- 53:09entrenched there and they do repo man and crush at summer
- 53:11Slam and there was always like this kind of like we said
- 53:15earlier, you got to talk litigation.
- 53:16Randy Coley, the original Smash the Moon Dog was always saying,
- 53:22well, I helped come up with Demolition so I have a right to
- 53:25and he would wrestle as Detroit Demolition and then Axe, Well, I
- 53:28was part of Demolition too. So I came up with it And there
- 53:30was he would, he would do Demolition as Axe and he had a
- 53:35like an indie guy blast and would wrestle a lot in like
- 53:37Pennsylvania, New York and, and places 'cause I think Axe mainly
- 53:41is like Western Pennsylvania. I think he's fairly local or at
- 53:44least was. And then when the Global
- 53:48Wrestling Federation was on ESPN in the early 90s when they first
- 53:52started, Billy Dee was their Booker and he would wrestle his
- 53:55axis, the Demolisher. There's always like kind of some
- 53:58demolition thing because Barry Darso kind of stuck around his
- 54:01repo man and then he goes with WCW and he's Blacktop Bully and
- 54:05Mr. Hole in one Barry Darso. I, I was so bummed.
- 54:09I I made this joke where? Now the A WS doing this.
- 54:13Golf theme show, like they're doing a charity golf tournament
- 54:16one night and then a wrestling show the next time.
- 54:17Like why can't they have Mr. Hole in one?
- 54:19Barry Darso at that thing would have been perfect.
- 54:21You know what? His original.
- 54:23Name was going to be for that. No, Stuart Payne was going to be
- 54:27his name. Stuart.
- 54:29Payne was going to be that. Character's name because there's
- 54:32a golfer, Payne Stewart. And then as they were rolling
- 54:35out the character in WCW, Payne Stewart, the golfer, died in a
- 54:39plane crash. They're like, well, that's some
- 54:40poor taste. We're going to have to just make
- 54:42him bury Darso. There's bad timing.
- 54:45On that one. And then after things wind down
- 54:48a little bit, demolition winds up with.
- 54:53With. Indie dates say Rancho Carr very
- 54:55famously. He did the King of Trios with
- 54:58with One Man Gang and you have that famous video of One Man
- 55:02gang doing a strut off with Larry Sweeney.
- 55:04They did a few of their superneticos.
- 55:06They would they're very, very, very regular on the con circuit
- 55:09and and demolition kind of never really left the the the minds of
- 55:17the people who were fans in the late 80s, early 90s.
- 55:19Like if you if you were really, really in the wrestling, and
- 55:21this is when I first got into it from like 88 to 91 and you were
- 55:25AWWFN Demolition is a huge part of that.
- 55:27They're they're not, they're like not Hogan Warrior, but
- 55:30they're right below that. They're right below that.
- 55:33Absolutely. And now?
- 55:34Finally. The other thing too, the
- 55:36litigation that kind of kept us going is they were part of that
- 55:39giant concussion lawsuit. There was this this this lawyer
- 55:43tried to get a class action lawsuit together from all these
- 55:45ex WWF wrestlers and basically anybody was part of that lawsuit
- 55:50was blackballed for like 10 years.
- 55:51Like even Bob Wharton, Bob Wharton junior, Randy Orton's
- 55:54father was never around. Like all these people are part
- 55:57of this lawsuit. They wouldn't touch them.
- 55:59And Demolition were one of the big ones.
- 56:01And then finally, now that you know, enough time has passed and
- 56:05all these other things, they're, they're, they're going to make
- 56:07the rend the Hall of Fame, which is good because I mean, they
- 56:09seem to be in good health. They, they travel a lot.
- 56:11But Billy, he's almost, I think the lady's well in the 70s now.
- 56:14Barry Darcy's in the 60s. So, and it's a shame with his
- 56:17leg is doing anything like you couldn't have celebrated Sid
- 56:19Vicious while he was still alive or Vader.
- 56:22Now he's going to now you're going to get a 2 minute video.
- 56:24Vader Yeah, you could. I'm I'm glad they're doing this
- 56:28while they still have the time. I'm very glad, absolutely.
- 56:31They were super personable when we got the like.
- 56:33They were not, they weren't like that one.
- 56:35Like there's some people we meet.
- 56:37I don't want to put names out there, but there's some legends
- 56:38we meet and you talk to them and you're like, oh, lights are on.
- 56:41No one's home sometimes. Yeah, You know what I mean?
- 56:44Yeah. Oh, I thought I wasn't talking
- 56:46about that. I was just talking about other
- 56:47it's not personable asshole. Yeah, definitely ones on my
- 56:50glass. Yeah, there's one on here.
- 56:52I don't want to, I don't want to say which one, but yeah, so, but
- 56:58no, they were super cool. I was so happy to meet them.
- 57:01I just remember like looking at you and I'm like, are you, Are
- 57:04you ready for this? And you're just like, like it
- 57:06was just, it was shell shocking. It was pretend like you've been
- 57:09there before. That's been my model the whole
- 57:11time. Pretend like you've been there
- 57:12before and and. In the chat currently right now
- 57:15is is Ryan Box who made that a thing?
- 57:19We do not get to make content with Demolition without Ryan.
- 57:22Like Ryan, Ryan has been in on the corner of us and and me as a
- 57:29content creator since the fucking start, always had our
- 57:32back. And the reason we got to work
- 57:34with Demolition and do all that stuff is because of him and
- 57:37because he believed in US and he knew that he could throw us in
- 57:40there and we would knock it out of the park.
- 57:41And I had a blast. Now he's doing some fun stuff
- 57:43down in. Pottstown Workers Pro Wrestling.
- 57:45Yeah, I may be joining. Him soon.
- 57:48Right on. Very cool, I may have gotten
- 57:50the. Invite to be a worker at Workers
- 57:53Pro Wrestling. So we're we're in talks.
- 57:55I'm going to come in. I'd handshake yet.
- 57:58I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going. To learn it, I'm going to learn
- 57:59it. I don't know what I'm going to
- 58:00do there. Probably not commentary.
- 58:02I think you have. To be you have you have to do
- 58:04the code of honor like we're going to honor it, but everybody
- 58:06gives the fish hand that would be that would be a good little
- 58:08bit because I'm not. Professional enough to work at
- 58:11probably a company like that. On commentary, I'm a little
- 58:13loose, but I, I, I'll be in, I'll be involved in some
- 58:17capacity even if it's just me down there getting content.
- 58:19But I've been invited, which is exciting and they have a really
- 58:22good locker room. I don't know if you see it in
- 58:24the background right above to see the two suite to see that
- 58:26drawing right there that. Isn't that that?
- 58:30Is a Ed House custom Shawn Michaels drawing I bought last
- 58:33week because Ed House is not working in RWE which is super
- 58:36exciting. So I, I've one thing I want to
- 58:39plug just because it's going to be happening tonight at 8:00.
- 58:43I will be on wrestling from the 313 live.
- 58:46I'll be doing an interview slash sit down talk with that, with
- 58:49that YouTube channel. So make sure you guys tune over.
- 58:51I'll be as soon as we're done here, I will be getting like,
- 58:54not cleaned up, but like prepared.
- 58:55And I'm going to jump over to another live stream and, and I
- 58:58don't know if I'm being interviewed.
- 58:59I don't know the structure. We haven't really talked about
- 59:01it. We're just going to we're going
- 59:02to call it in the ring. So if you guys can come over and
- 59:05support them, subscribe, give them some love and and and go
- 59:09over and hang out, that would be very, very much appreciated.
- 59:12I'll also be at I don't know if. I have any issues coming?
- 59:16Up this weekend. Any shows come up soon?
- 59:17I do not, but I will be at RWEWTW Pilguru Brewing Company
- 59:23this Friday. I don't, I don't think I'm
- 59:24involved in the show in any capacity, but I may be
- 59:26streaming. Actually, I'll just say it, I'm
- 59:28streaming the show, so if you want to watch it live, you could
- 59:31watch it right here on the ABJ channel.
- 59:33I'll be streaming Fighter Tainment to you guys.
- 59:36You'll be able to listen to BP Burke and Nate Heater on
- 59:38commentary and I will be just hanging out making sure the
- 59:41stream runs good. So come over and hang out, watch
- 59:43some Fighter Tainment and you can also see me backstage at
- 59:46PPW. So a lot of cool stuff.
- 59:48And if you want to plug the next PPW show BP, go for it May.
- 59:52Yeah. May's next month, Yeah, it's
- 59:53April. May 9th.
- 59:54Is this, is this a Sunday show you're doing?
- 59:56Saturday. Believe May 9th is a.
- 59:58Saturday. Yeah, no, we, we did a Sunday
- 1:00:01show. We did a Sunday show once.
- 1:00:02It wasn't a great idea. We also, we also did it on
- 1:00:04Mother's Day, which didn't help. And like we've.
- 1:00:08Been doing pretty good with our. Houses lately?
- 1:00:10That one was not it was like 2 years ago, it was actually May
- 1:00:13of 2024 and doing a show at 1:00 in the afternoon on Mother's Day
- 1:00:17was not a good idea. The show was very good, the show
- 1:00:21was excellent, but not many people saw it was the problem.
- 1:00:25So the this this one though, this one's going to be a fun
- 1:00:31one. NXNXT what am I doing?
- 1:00:33PPW level up because NXT is a thing called Level up, but this
- 1:00:36is PPW level up. Don't sue us please.
- 1:00:39It is. Going.
- 1:00:41To be a fun one. I don't think we have anything
- 1:00:42announced. I can let something out because
- 1:00:46if you were at the show and we had a great crowd capacity crowd
- 1:00:50Jim packed to the rafters as Grillo Monsoon would say and and
- 1:00:53I want to we we have the best fans.
- 1:00:55I, I, I will take pride in that immensely.
- 1:00:57They we, we set a new record for.
- 1:01:00We always try to, we, we have this little thing where we try
- 1:01:03to beat what we did the month before as far as, you know,
- 1:01:06selling them out the door. Yeah, we, we always try to make
- 1:01:09sure we're, we're giving something to come back to see
- 1:01:12next month. And we healthily beat our record
- 1:01:17without it, without an even even without a name without anything
- 1:01:21like that, without even, you know, a name that at the level
- 1:01:24like a Masha Slamovich we had this month or a who had a
- 1:01:27phenomenal match, phenomenal match with Sammy Chaos.
- 1:01:30Can't wait for that. I'm just saying main event.
- 1:01:31Sammy's your draw. That's that's where it's at.
- 1:01:34Look, you don't have. To sell me on Sammy Chaos, I do
- 1:01:37not have to be sold on Sammy Chaos.
- 1:01:39Sammy Chaos is a ****** and but I think the main event of this
- 1:01:48show will most likely be for the PPW heavyweight title.
- 1:01:52We announced this at the We announced this at the.
- 1:01:54This is for someone hearing that.
- 1:01:56We. We.
- 1:01:57Announced this at the show. Right before we went to.
- 1:02:01Intermission and like to think this is a big reason why.
- 1:02:05Why we did such a good job? Selling tickets out the door
- 1:02:07because we're running something back from February.
- 1:02:10It wasn't in the cards originally for February, but you
- 1:02:13know, sometimes things happen and and you make Magic and they
- 1:02:17had a Magic match in February. We're going to do it one more
- 1:02:19time when the challenger does not have to wrestle beforehand
- 1:02:22for 20 minutes and then get a title shot.
- 1:02:24Theo Bando putting that PPW heavyweight tow on the line
- 1:02:27against Dan Stofko. And that one is going to be
- 1:02:31something. That one is going to be
- 1:02:33something I can. No sugar anymore.
- 1:02:36Sugar free Dan Stofko Sugar free Sugar free Splenda.
- 1:02:39Splenda stuff. Go Splenda, Dan.
- 1:02:41There you go. Splenda, Dan, Stevie.
- 1:02:44Dan, this is. Something this.
- 1:02:46Man has wanted for a long, long time, so I'm very excited to see
- 1:02:49that match up. That's going to be fun.
- 1:02:51Let's see how it plays out. And they tore.
- 1:02:53The house down the last time they went at it, and I think
- 1:02:56we're going to get more of the same.
- 1:02:58Yeah, Dio. Bando versus Splenda, Splenda,
- 1:03:02Dan Splenda Stopko or just Dan Stopko or just.
- 1:03:06Staying Dan Stopko. That's fine.
- 1:03:08Yeah, I know. I'm just being funny.
- 1:03:10Super super, super excited for them.
- 1:03:12Anything else you want to talk about?
- 1:03:16Yeah, I again. I will be at Pill Guru Brewing
- 1:03:18on Friday at 7:00 for Jamboree. They're taking the Old Slam
- 1:03:22Brewery and just making it the the thing it really.
- 1:03:26Was a. Jamboree and I'll be there the
- 1:03:28night before. I'll be there in two nights.
- 1:03:30Thursday. If you're local to Pasil, I will
- 1:03:33be hosting the aforementioned WrestleMania trivia so you can
- 1:03:37come. Out you can.
- 1:03:39Test your wrestling knowledge. I think they usually give away
- 1:03:41like a gift card or something for the for the brewery up to
- 1:03:43the winner. So I can't play and I don't
- 1:03:47drink anymore. So chances are there everybody
- 1:03:50but. Now's your chance.
- 1:03:51If he's not playing, you will have to take on probably like
- 1:03:55Gary and and Carolina. Gary or Carolina?
- 1:03:57Jim, they're problematic. They they will.
- 1:04:00Come in and and then they will if you better be ready.
- 1:04:03Well, The thing is, they they don't really.
- 1:04:06They're they're great with anything from like before
- 1:04:09WrestleMania, but first half of the WrestleMania is they're
- 1:04:12they're unstoppable. Yeah.
- 1:04:13But then, you know, when you get to like what happened to
- 1:04:17WrestleMania last year, they probably didn't watch it.
- 1:04:19Yeah, the. Fun fact, the my favorite moment
- 1:04:22for them is when there was a question about, actually it just
- 1:04:25came up the other day about the wrestler who passed away in
- 1:04:27Allentown or something like that.
- 1:04:28Or there was some kind of question where we were like, no,
- 1:04:32no, who was the first Jakari Grand?
- 1:04:33Champion. I listen about Gary Albright,
- 1:04:36and as they did, he passed away in Hazleton.
- 1:04:39Oh, was it Hazleton? It was Hazleton.
- 1:04:41Yeah. I thought it was Allentown.
- 1:04:43But no, we asked the question and Gary and Jim didn't get it
- 1:04:48and they both worked the show like it was about Gary it.
- 1:04:53Was Gary filmed it in the first? Yeah.
- 1:04:55Yeah, it was. Who was the first Jakara grand
- 1:04:57champion? And the answer is Eddie
- 1:04:59Kingston. But they thought it was Claudio
- 1:05:02because Claudio was supposed to be the first Jakara grand
- 1:05:06champion, but then he got signed.
- 1:05:08So that that's what got them kind of tripped up.
- 1:05:10Is that the timing of it? And I do have one more quick.
- 1:05:13Announcement if we get out of here BP, there's a new
- 1:05:15championship entering the scene. I know it's been already slated
- 1:05:19for RWE and WTW, but I'm open for other people if anyone's
- 1:05:22interested. We do have coming this summer,
- 1:05:27the ABJ social media Championship which will be
- 1:05:30defended on shows and it'll be the the matches will be featured
- 1:05:33on my YouTube channel. If permission from the company,
- 1:05:36if they put the match on, I would hope they give me
- 1:05:37permission to use that footage. But if when it's not being
- 1:05:40filmed in front of a live crowd and performed in front of a live
- 1:05:43crowd, it is a 24/7 championship.
- 1:05:48So at any place, anytime, not Champion 487247711-I97, Route
- 1:05:5581, Championship 95. South, I missed our.
- 1:05:58I miss our truth. As a 24/7 champion we will have.
- 1:06:02That championship being defended because social media never
- 1:06:04sleeps. And here's the little preview of
- 1:06:07this championship. It's going to be the Gold Navy
- 1:06:12and Greenbelt. You could do whatever you want
- 1:06:15with that go Irish. But it is being made by my my
- 1:06:18buddy Cody, who's also taking belt customs in the future.
- 1:06:23But it is gorgeous. Going to be triple play.
- 1:06:26This is just the early preview of it that Abjs going to have
- 1:06:28another plate on top of it. But that's essentially what it's
- 1:06:31going to look like. It's going to be on leather
- 1:06:33soon. There will be different versions
- 1:06:35of this belt coming very soon also.
- 1:06:38So every season it'll change look and we'll see how it plays
- 1:06:43out. But yeah, very excited to unveil
- 1:06:45that and have you guys check it out.
- 1:06:47And we will also have other people competing for that title.
- 1:06:50So you never know who can win at any point in time.
- 1:06:52If you come to a show and the the Champions there and he's in
- 1:06:56the parking lot, hit him, fight for it.
- 1:06:58Just make sure I'm there to film it and we'll we'll have a great
- 1:07:02time on TV. It didn't happen.
- 1:07:03Yeah, if it if it didn't happen on TV, it.
- 1:07:05Didn't happen. It's like the Rockers won the
- 1:07:06championship. I just had a huge piece of meat
- 1:07:09while AB JS face was next to was next to my meat.
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- 1:08:21flying with views lately. The channel is on an uptick
- 1:08:24people, we are getting views, people are hanging out, people
- 1:08:27are liking it, it's growing. I'm excited, but we're 300K away
- 1:08:31from hitting 1 million views on this channel.
- 1:08:34BP, you know in the early days how hard it was 1 million views,
- 1:08:38how hard it was to grow yeah, we're monetized it's always hard
- 1:08:43yes, we're. Getting close to 1,000,000
- 1:08:45those. Initial steps are the.
- 1:08:46Hardest, Yeah. So it's getting.
- 1:08:48I feel like honestly, after years of pushing and grinding
- 1:08:51and maybe I haven't been consistent on the live stream
- 1:08:54aspect, I will get better, but I have been consistent of putting
- 1:08:57out content regardless. But thank you.
- 1:08:59Seriously everyone who's been supporting and doing things.
- 1:09:01The brand new ABJ podcast rebrand is there.
- 1:09:04I just recorded the new episode today which will be dropping
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- 1:09:12changed My life. That's going to be the episode
- 1:09:14so I'm going to work on that immediately following yeah not
- 1:09:18always hard to grow, but just on social media.
- 1:09:20I don't have a not we we're big guys.
- 1:09:23We've we've grown. We did it.
- 1:09:24It was not it wasn't hard BP just a lot of beer drinking,
- 1:09:28eating I I've actually shrunk in the.
- 1:09:29Last few months, yeah, yeah. I listen if Blue, she wants to
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- 1:09:40out. I appreciate you all for the
- 1:09:42support. Appreciate you all for the love
- 1:09:44I do. Like I said, I have the belts
- 1:09:45coming. I may have some old belts
- 1:09:47popping up that you guys have seen.
- 1:09:48The new background. I I changed up the look of my
- 1:09:50room. I got a little shelf here with
- 1:09:52some championships on it. We're doing cool things.
- 1:09:55I got new art from people. Thank you.
- 1:09:58Seriously, it it means the world to me.
- 1:10:00Invite people, tell people about us.
- 1:10:01Word of mouth gets us where we need to be.
- 1:10:04You'll see me and BP do this more frequently.
- 1:10:06I don't know what days they'll be the ABJ live, so they'll just
- 1:10:09kind of pop up, but we will be a little quicker on supporting it
- 1:10:12and telling you what to come. I think we are going to do the
- 1:10:14history of AJ Styles unless any of you guys while we we we'll
- 1:10:17take like 5-10 minutes here. Is there any topics that you
- 1:10:20want us to cover? Maybe an old show you want us to
- 1:10:22watch and cover? And, and before we get out of
- 1:10:26here too, we'll talk a little bit about wrestling, wrestling
- 1:10:28news before we cut out. But yeah, so we have the the
- 1:10:32history of AJ is kind of something we are working on.
- 1:10:34Do you have anything else BP that you kind of are interested
- 1:10:36in and you want to do? I've been watching a lot of like
- 1:10:40older stuff lately so whenever any I I I can I can talk about
- 1:10:44anything at any time. Is there a topic you want to?
- 1:10:47Present to the to the Nothing Offhand, I'm I'm pretty.
- 1:10:50I'm pretty, pretty open for that.
- 1:10:53Stuff like that. We've kind of scratched that
- 1:10:55late 80s, early 90s wheelhouse with demolition.
- 1:10:57So maybe people hear about the attitude there.
- 1:10:59Maybe people want to hear about ruthless aggression or ruthless.
- 1:11:03So that's so weird that that stuff is like retro now.
- 1:11:06Like it it that really hit me during the John Cena retirement.
- 1:11:09Like all these people are like adults, like adults, not, not
- 1:11:12children, not teenagers, like, oh, I grew up watching John
- 1:11:15Cena. I grew up like when I was a kid.
- 1:11:17He it's like, Oh my God, yeah, that's true.
- 1:11:19Like, I mean, he, I when he debuted, I was like a teenager.
- 1:11:24So it's not like a late in my late teens.
- 1:11:26So it's not that I was probably an adult at that point.
- 1:11:30So yeah, I was around 18 when when John seen a debut while
- 1:11:34people are giving out. Some suggestions in the chat
- 1:11:36let's talk current day wrestling where where do you sit currently
- 1:11:39as a pro wrestling fan what are you consuming what are you
- 1:11:42watching, not watching what are you what are you doing in the
- 1:11:44landscape of being your fandom of professional wrestling I I
- 1:11:48usually try to. Watch at least Raw and Dynamite
- 1:11:51every month. Every week.
- 1:11:52Dynamite are usually on catch live just because Wednesdays I
- 1:11:55usually have other stuff I'm working on or watching or
- 1:11:58something like that. But those those are the two big
- 1:12:03ones and and and raw it's really habit.
- 1:12:06I I wish I would watch a little more XT.
- 1:12:08I tried with TNAI got AMC plus and it's like it's just not for
- 1:12:13me. If you like it, you like.
- 1:12:16I'm never going to, I'm never going to run anybody down for
- 1:12:18liking the wrestling they like. Everybody's got their own
- 1:12:20flavor. Wrestling and yourself.
- 1:12:22If you like deathmatch, watch deathmatch.
- 1:12:23If you like AW, watch AW. If you like WW, watch WWE.
- 1:12:28What I would really love to watch more of, because it seems
- 1:12:30to be the hottest thing going in wrestling right now, is lucha.
- 1:12:34I want to try to make it a point to watch that mask versus mask
- 1:12:37match they're setting up between the El Grande Americanos.
- 1:12:40I think that's going to be really cool.
- 1:12:42And I've I've liked the AAA I've watched.
- 1:12:45Obviously Mr. Iguana has a lot of fun.
- 1:12:47That's what everybody kind of gravitated to.
- 1:12:48But they have some pretty good wrestling.
- 1:12:50They have, you know, they're some great characters.
- 1:12:52CMLLI heard they're going to be on like Fox Sports 2.
- 1:12:55That's like the hottest wrestling in the world right
- 1:12:56now. Mystico is like the biggest star
- 1:12:59in in wrestling. They they had a million people
- 1:13:02cross through their gates last year and they're they're they're
- 1:13:06a company that runs, if I'm not mistaken.
- 1:13:08I could be wrong here, but they're like a weekly territory
- 1:13:12company like Memphis used to be where Memphis would run the Mid
- 1:13:14South Calcium every Monday night.
- 1:13:17I'm pretty sure that's what CML does with Arena Mexico.
- 1:13:19First of all, they own the building.
- 1:13:21So that helps, you know, if you own the building, the overhead
- 1:13:24comes way down because if you've ever run a wrestling show, large
- 1:13:29or small, you know that one of the biggest fixed costs you have
- 1:13:32is your building and so. The CML has just been doing a
- 1:13:37lot. Of really fun stuff.
- 1:13:38So that would be really something we get want to get
- 1:13:40into and and lucha is something I've always had an appreciation
- 1:13:43for, but I've always, it's never been like my style of wrestling
- 1:13:47like I, I always think of, I always think of our buddy Andy
- 1:13:50header. The the, the new PPW.
- 1:13:52No one was champion Andy header. Let's throw that out there too.
- 1:13:55I always think of Andy header when he talked about lucha once
- 1:13:59because they were doing a lucha themed show somewhere and he
- 1:14:01said, you know, lucha is, is really easy.
- 1:14:04You just do a lot of arm drags and don't sell.
- 1:14:09So I, I think it's something I've never really given a fair
- 1:14:14shake and I would love to maybe dig a little deeper into this
- 1:14:19year because it seems like it's a great time to get in the way
- 1:14:22that I think like Fox Sports to not that I have live TV right
- 1:14:25now. I kind of ditched that because I
- 1:14:27had some expenses, you know, medical expenses.
- 1:14:29I had a water line break that was fun.
- 1:14:31So I had to, I had to cut some costs and, and, and, and life
- 1:14:37was one of them. But I, I think CML is going to
- 1:14:39be around on like Fox Sports 2 or something like that coming up
- 1:14:41soon. So there's, there's there's a
- 1:14:45lot of fun stuff out there. So I just want to kind of
- 1:14:47explore things I haven't really given a chance yet and, and see
- 1:14:50what I like. I'm I'm in the same I.
- 1:14:53I do not. I have completely tapped out of
- 1:14:55the WWE. Is that, is that church bells on
- 1:14:59your side? Oh, that's a fire whistle.
- 1:15:03Oh, OK, I was like, what the? Fuck is that?
- 1:15:05I thought it was the release TV. I thought it was a high.
- 1:15:07I have a window open. Yeah, no, you're fine.
- 1:15:09It's like 80. Degrees.
- 1:15:10So I I. Do have a window open?
- 1:15:11It's getting warm. So yeah, I I have, I've I've
- 1:15:15been diving. I'm AW, I'm locked in awi like
- 1:15:18the product. I like what's happening over
- 1:15:19there. I have more fun watching it.
- 1:15:20I don't feel like I'm not going to bash anything.
- 1:15:23I'm not trying to say anything negative.
- 1:15:24It's just more for me. WB is not for me right now.
- 1:15:27I shrug with the WB watching it. So I just kind of tuned out.
- 1:15:31I don't I don't if I'm not into it, I'm not going to put the
- 1:15:33energy into it. And so I kind of got away from
- 1:15:36that. I'm going to start diving more
- 1:15:38into mystery pro wrestling. I'm only there's only 25 shows
- 1:15:41to watch, so I'm going to go back and rewatch all those now
- 1:15:44that I have the subscription. I also want to resubscribe to
- 1:15:47Thriller and fight TV, thriller TV and Thriller, Thriller, TV,
- 1:15:54thriller. And IWTV.
- 1:15:55Because IWT is only 10 bucks a month.
- 1:15:57So once I get my finances and what I want to get that again, I
- 1:15:59want to finish the Chikara collection.
- 1:16:01I want to finish it. I want to watch as much of it as
- 1:16:03I can. I want to watch.
- 1:16:05There's a lot there so that I want to dive into that.
- 1:16:07So maybe what I'm thinking of is when I'm not watching like
- 1:16:10Monday Night Raw on a Monday, I may just put on a Chakara show
- 1:16:14and watch that instead of the wrestling I would have watched
- 1:16:17on a Monday. Maybe the Discord is a place I
- 1:16:19do that where people we can all subscribe to IWTV and hit, hey,
- 1:16:22I'm going to hit play now and watch it.
- 1:16:24So I'm going to go back and do the Chakara.
- 1:16:26I also want to start getting getting more into House of Glory
- 1:16:29and some of the independent stuff that's on Thriller,
- 1:16:31Thriller and GCW. I want to put more effort into
- 1:16:35the indie scene. I want to show what's I want to
- 1:16:36see what's happening there. I used to be super in tune with
- 1:16:39it and I fell off. I know there's a ton of stuff on
- 1:16:41YouTube too that I can subscribe and watch.
- 1:16:44If you guys want to watch RWEWTWPPW that's on YouTube for
- 1:16:47free for you guys to check out. There's a lot of.
- 1:16:51There's a lot of PPW high. Voltage on the YouTube right now
- 1:16:54because our TV network in Hazleton is not a religious
- 1:16:57station. Yeah, so they kicked.
- 1:16:59US off Bummer. Now you need a God wrestler.
- 1:17:04Actually, I've been known to dress up as as the doctor.
- 1:17:09Yeah, I've been known to dress up.
- 1:17:10As a doctor so I can be a backstage interview in a
- 1:17:13doctor's suit. I think they may feel.
- 1:17:17That's not exactly what they're looking for.
- 1:17:21OK, it was worth a. Shot I'll put it.
- 1:17:22I'll put my hair down. Maybe you should be talking
- 1:17:25about this with a shirt that. Says you have a cold.
- 1:17:29It's a. It's a.
- 1:17:29It's a. It's a community, you know what
- 1:17:31I mean? Not so much a cult, you know,
- 1:17:33It's just, well, it says cult. It doesn't say community of ABJ.
- 1:17:36That well, you just I want to do.
- 1:17:38I want to do. I want to do Scientology.
- 1:17:39Wrestling, that might be some money.
- 1:17:41I love these Scientology speed runs they're doing now.
- 1:17:43Like people are just trying to run into their offices and see
- 1:17:46how far they can get before they get kicked out.
- 1:17:48They're doing like Scientology speed runs.
- 1:17:50Yeah, people are going to they're.
- 1:17:51Going to end up missing because of that, but yeah, so we'll have
- 1:17:54some fun with that. Is there anything on this?
- 1:17:59We are so a WS pay-per-view just happened.
- 1:18:01Did you get a chance? Did you watch it?
- 1:18:03I did not get a chance to catch. It I, I, I've been going to bed
- 1:18:06very early lately. I go to bed.
- 1:18:08So one thing I will say. With AW please stop doing Sunday
- 1:18:11shows. Please.
- 1:18:13I can't stay up till 12:00 at night when I have work at 5:00
- 1:18:16in the morning the next day. Please stop doing Sunday shows.
- 1:18:19It's too much. Or end your show earlier and
- 1:18:22start. Start earlier and end earlier.
- 1:18:24Like I can't stay up till 12:00 and watch pay per views.
- 1:18:27Like you're going to kill me with that.
- 1:18:28I can't do it. Fuck the elision from that. 4:00
- 1:18:30on a Sunday sound great. They really do.
- 1:18:32Yeah. Like please don't know.
- 1:18:33Why more people aren't doing it? Anything for?
- 1:18:36Mania you're excited for? Oben Brock.
- 1:18:40Hopefully you know the right guy wins there.
- 1:18:44That's the big. 1. Punk, Roman, The bill just
- 1:18:47hasn't been there. Cody and Orton McAfee kind of
- 1:18:52ruined that for me. Why do you mean McAfee?
- 1:18:54On one, it's fucking Cody and Randy.
- 1:18:57I don't get that because he's a celebrity.
- 1:18:59And you know, you got to have at least I show speed is fun, like
- 1:19:03at least what they're doing with him is fun like, and and he's
- 1:19:05just a very naturally good entertainer.
- 1:19:07So that that should be fine for what it is.
- 1:19:13What else I'm trying to think of the women's matches, the women's
- 1:19:15matches. I that's usually like something
- 1:19:19that's a strength for WWE. I'm not really super crazy about
- 1:19:22Jade and Ria Liv. And.
- 1:19:25Vaquer should be a good match. Like Liv Morgan always gives it
- 1:19:31her all and Vaquer is very good. But there's just it it, it seems
- 1:19:35like that spark just isn't there.
- 1:19:37Like last year you had Tiffany and Charlotte and the spark was
- 1:19:40there and you had EO and Ria and Bianca and that was like one of
- 1:19:44the best matches of the year. And there's just, I don't see
- 1:19:48that spark and that that's that's a bit disappointing.
- 1:19:52Trying to think what else was was is going on here.
- 1:19:57Jacob Fatu and. Drew will be very.
- 1:19:58Good. I don't know how super invested.
- 1:20:01I think we're going to get a good moment because it seems
- 1:20:02like Trick Williams is going to beat Sammy.
- 1:20:04That should be a lot of fun. Balor and Dom will be OK.
- 1:20:09I guess I'm just trying to think through the card in my head
- 1:20:11here. This is as I.
- 1:20:14Haven't been this unenthused for WrestleMania in a long time to
- 1:20:17be honest with you. Just said I'm not feeling this
- 1:20:19one. Last year was last year was
- 1:20:21like. I mean, you you can't have
- 1:20:23WrestleMania 40 every year where you have this huge story that
- 1:20:26you're being an aerial pay off and and and and even like a sub
- 1:20:30one with the with going through in the IC title and even things
- 1:20:33that didn't kind of hit like you thought they would.
- 1:20:36Like USO versus USO was not a great match, but at least the
- 1:20:39build was there. Yeah.
- 1:20:40With this, it was just like. OK, things aren't working.
- 1:20:43We're just. Going to shuffle the deck.
- 1:20:44Yeah, All right. Well, we're going.
- 1:20:46To wrap it up there, so when it comes to what to expect next for
- 1:20:49us when it comes to history or recap of wrestling, I guess just
- 1:20:52keep stay tuned into socials and we'll figure it out.
- 1:20:54Thank you all so much for hanging out.
- 1:20:56If you want to come hang out again with me once again at
- 1:20:588:00, I'll be over at wrestling from the 313.
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- 1:21:11I need y'all to show up and show out.
- 1:21:12Please be there for me, come hang out and we'll see you guys
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- 1:21:24we're out of here. Actually, I'll probably be live
- 1:21:26for dynamite tonight. So we'll see you guys then.
- 1:21:27Bye.