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Hope After a Major Setback · The World Knowledge

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  Speaker 1: Well, good evening listeners. Thank you again. As always, I'm
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  Speaker 1: so grateful for all you guys who have built this
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  Speaker 1: podcast up, who listen, who watch. And I've just been,
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  Speaker 1: you know, falling across so many different stories this year
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  Speaker 1: and they're so different. Um, but I came across Dawn
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  Speaker 1: Wilcox who's on the screen. And then for those listening,
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  Speaker 1: you'll hear her voice, um, hurt. And that's just really
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  Speaker 1: sad reality.
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  Speaker 2: Um, Yeah, and more men, I was just going to say, absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: men are killed at many times the rate of women.
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  Speaker 2: And so, you know, sometimes people ask me, well, what
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  Speaker 2: about men? And why don't you document men? And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I'd be happy to show you how I do this.
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  Speaker 2: I have limited bandwidth. I can't document men also. But
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  Speaker 2: not that that doesn't matter. But the very important things
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  Speaker 2: to remember about that is men are also being killed
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  Speaker 2: by and large, by other men. Men's murders look very
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  Speaker 2: different from women's in the sense that men are really
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  Speaker 2: rarely killed by partners. I think it's, don't quote me,
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  Speaker 2: but I think like 7% versus, you know, multiple times
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  Speaker 2: that for women. So, and men also, when other men
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  Speaker 2: kill them, you know, it's typically, you know, gang violence
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  Speaker 2: or in a bar fight and somebody punches somebody too
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  Speaker 2: hard or, you know, in the commission of some other
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  Speaker 2: criminal activity or something like that. It's usually pretty straightforward.
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  Speaker 2: Women's murders by men are often maybe the final fatal
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  Speaker 2: act of like domestic violence or where they're targeted by
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  Speaker 2: a complete stranger for rape and murder, or they have
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  Speaker 2: elements of overkill where they use more force than is
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  Speaker 2: necessary to kill the woman, almost like they want to
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  Speaker 2: obliterate or, you know, annihilate the woman. and then you,
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  Speaker 2: You also have aspects sometimes of torture or what we
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  Speaker 2: call non-state torture. And women's murders at the hands of
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  Speaker 2: men are really honestly some of the most brutal, vicious crimes,
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  Speaker 2: murders I've ever read about outside of like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: drug cartels, you know, killing people. Yeah. They are particularly
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  Speaker 2: vicious in a lot of cases. They often involve crime
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  Speaker 2: scene staging, domestic violence, femicides are some of the most
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  Speaker 2: staged crime scenes where either the perpetrator is adding or
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  Speaker 2: taking away evidence, staged suicides, all of those kind of things.
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  Speaker 2: So women's murders, even though women aren't murdered as often
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  Speaker 2: as men are, and men are the number one homicide
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  Speaker 2: victims for sure. Women's murders are especially heinous.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's in part why you want to,
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  Speaker 1: at least I'm, I'm understanding want to document this is
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  Speaker 1: because those are the ones that aren't getting as much attention. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And, and, you know, African-American women's murders, you know, African-American
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  Speaker 2: women are killed at a rate, you know, at least
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  Speaker 2: two and a half times white women, um, even up
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  Speaker 2: to maybe four times to six times in some cases,
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  Speaker 2: almost always with a firearm. And, you know, most women
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  Speaker 2: are killed with firearms across the spectrum, you know, about
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  Speaker 2: 70% of women. But, um, And most murders of women
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  Speaker 2: are intraracial, meaning if it's an African-American woman, the perpetrator
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  Speaker 2: is almost always African-American. You know, Hispanic women are typically
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  Speaker 2: killed by Hispanic men and all of those kind of things.
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  Speaker 2: So they're at much higher risk of murder. So it
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  Speaker 2: becomes very important to talk about not only who the
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  Speaker 2: victims are, but who the perpetrators are. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that can be sometimes a difficult conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean, that's interesting. When you say difficult conversation,
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  Speaker 1: is it because people expect that it would be a
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  Speaker 1: different race that would be doing the killing?
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  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I mean, I have a friend who
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  Speaker 2: documents femicide among Black women in the in the black
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  Speaker 2: community and, and sometimes she faces some pushback, you know, um,
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  Speaker 2: and I kind of like showed her what I do
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  Speaker 2: and she started doing it for black femicide and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: people give her a hard time, kind of like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you're airing our dirty laundry, this sort of thing, you know, or,
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  Speaker 2: or men will be, um, upset that she's talking about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, African American men killing black women. But, if
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  Speaker 2: you can't have that conversation, then you can't talk about
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  Speaker 2: black women's murder. So it's very important or, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in the indigenous communities with missing and murdered indigenous women
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  Speaker 2: and girls, you know, to have conversations about the fact
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of missing and murdered indigenous women and
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  Speaker 2: girls are targeted by white men. So these are men
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  Speaker 2: from outside their communities, you know, so, um, It's very
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  Speaker 2: important to be able to talk about the who, you know,
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  Speaker 2: as much as the victim, you know, who the perpetrators are.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and being honest about it, even if it's hard
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  Speaker 1: or not something you're going to really like hearing.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. Because, you know, if we can't talk about
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  Speaker 2: who is murdering women, then we can't hope to reduce
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  Speaker 2: the numbers, you know, through any kind of interventions.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, what kind of interventions
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  Speaker 1: do you think would help this? Because if I'm hearing
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  Speaker 1: you correctly, would you say from 1950 to now, based
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  Speaker 1: on the research you've done, there's been an increase in femicide?
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  Speaker 1: Or has it kind of just stayed the same? How
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  Speaker 1: is it?